Scion FR-S vs Scion tC Drag Race Part 1: And the best Scion Sports car is?

[@jordanadams7168]

I love how it doesn't even look like a race, it's like they're just pulling out of their driveway.

[@QuesoTornado]

that drag race was painful to watch

[@electrictroy2010]

+Andrew THE FR-S is a classic case of Hype over substance. Quarter-mile time is 15 but TC is only 14 . .

[@QuesoTornado]

electrictroy2010 I'm a bit sad Toyota dropped the Scion. I liked their exterior/interior designs

[@electrictroy2010]

+Andrew ALL the Scions will be carried over to the Toyota label. My preference for weekend driving is the Honda S2000. Rear-wheel drive, perfect balance, AND horsepower. The professionals over at EverydayDriver agree .

[@Keyandustan]

+electrictroy2010 The XB and TCs are being discontinued the others are being labeled as Toyota

[@salsagandu]

yea.....painful for frs owners who paid thousands of dollars more than the cost of a tc. Frs owners pay big money for a scion that has better interior materials and 20 more hp than a tc. I know...what a bunch of idiots right?

[@KoolanceGamer680]

I got a 2013 TC and I love it. It has been a great car for the year and a half I've had it. Its not the fastest car on the road, but it is nice and torquey, has great responsive handling and has yet to give me any issues, not to mention its probably the best value for the money.

[@johannmadrid8864]

I was gonna comment “we allll know Frs would win” then I deleted the whole comment 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@Solaris_347]

Rip

[@kiddkanto]

get someone who actually knows how to drive a stick and the FRS would actually stand a chance

[@KITT-K2000]

​@@kiddkanto but then again get a manual scion tc with a good driver and lets see 😉

[@buildmorefarms1007]

You just cant argue with success! These 2 cars are drop dead reliable, fuel efficient, hold their value well, incredibly fun/sporty and hot hot hot!

[@PorscheCayenneLover]

I am honestly surprised the tC won! Who knew 22 more lb/ft of torque could have such an impact. The FR-S will naturally win in a lap race due to its superior handling prowess. Great review guys!

[@murry001]

Except that the tC looks like a dog took a shit and that car came out of it's ass.

[@ellomirza]

It gets multiplied in the gearbox and differential to much more. That's why a seemingly insignificant difference at the crank has such an impact.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

murry001 Haters gonna hate...

[@coltonhall2559]

Way to spoil the video in two seconds from anyone clicking on it

[@trevorbronkema7332]

why surprised do you own a 2011-2013 scion tc?

[@J-W.-]

I'm sorry but I'm not going to pay 20k for sports car that gets left by a scion tc and not even has more torque then 151

[@buildmorefarms1007]

The FR-s is 25 k! Not 20k.

[@J-W.-]

buildmorefarms100 prove my point even more.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

The FR-S/BR-Z is really in a class by itself. There is nothing else that compares to it's handling, reliability, economy, fun factor for the price.

[@J-W.-]

One will argue that statement. I would but I've already stated what I stated and that is final have a nice day.

[@wekhunter410]

I guess you would rather drive a girls car hahaha. That's your choice. But there is a lot more aftermarket support for a FR-S. Simple turbo or supercharge it and you're normally right around 300 whp sometimes over and that's on a conservative tune. I know a few people with the fr-s / brz and every single one of them love it. I would spend the extra loot on the fr-s and extra to get brz. Why? because it's a better car and not a girls car haha.

[@TEDdotcom]

Higher torque means faster take off in drag races...the FR-S has less of it and the tC has obviously more of it. So many bitter/pissed/annoyed/pwned comments, hahah!

[@rickedmondson5154]

I own a 2015 scion tc I put TRD lowering springs and racing wheels and tires... I've spanked FR-S cars easy just because of the tq is better... The fact is both cars look great and are fun to drive with a lot of options available and room to grow... my next upgrades are TRD Headers and exhaust.... then turbo and intercooler +tune and finally videos

[@ISAACLOREDO15]

I have a 2015 Scion tC too and I want to buy TRD lowering springs how much did they cost you and did you install them yourself?

[@rickedmondson5154]

The springs cost 350.00 total and I had the dealership put mine on... it gives a noticeable change in stance and in handling. I have some wide rims and tires and no clearance issues so bumps aren't a problem for me

[@ISAACLOREDO15]

Thats good thats what I wanted to hear how much does the dealership charge to put them on

[@rickedmondson5154]

If u go to the same toyota dealership u brought the car from they don't charge much I only paid 175 and that was getting the lowering kit put on and the car balanced along with the custom Niche rim and tire balancing.... I got my wheels from them too and they look amazing brush metal and simi-gloss matte black finish it's a 2 tone rim

[@buildmorefarms1007]

+Rick Edmondson Please describe the better handling in detail, im interested.

[@edkline6401]

As a Volkswagen CC owner it is gratifying to see that your lap time in the FR-S is no better than what you guys got out of a CC when you lap tested it. I love my CC.

[@stangtrax]

Subaru engine vs Toyota engine, duh I'd rather have the reliability of Toyota.

[@Brian-bq8tj]

@Johnny Diaz no they don't lmao, they only own a stake in subaru you fool

[@caboose22320]

@@Brian-bq8tj that’s actually not true either, they own ~15% of subarus parent company, Fuji heavy industries.

[@ftniceberg874]

And the engine is now known to have bad piston rings that will lead to blowing the engine.

[@vladimirzielony3234]

Dont be fooled by the results of this test, official records clearly indicate that the tC is slower than the fr-s for 0-60. Bad gear shifting from fr-s driver skewed actual results. If you dont believe me, do some research and you'll find the tC doing 6.8 sec when properly driven in manual and the fr-s 6.1 when properly driven.

[@johnx585]

that is incorrect tc is faster

[@ellomirza]

Pathetic. Pretty sure the FR-S can be outdragged by anything.

[@andylie7699]

Drags is for girls... When you take it on the track, it will be another story

[@supersayin1]

Andreas Lie not necessarily true! Just because it boasted as a driver's car doesn't mean it truly is. I have driven on tracks before and the most fun I've had were in cars of 260hp or more. AWD and RWD. Those cars had monster torque with enough power to hunt down other cars on the track. Simply taking the FR-S on a track isn't the full focus of the fun, it's taking it on the track and hunting down other cars passing to truly get the feeling of a real racer.

[@supersayin1]

***** exactly! I drove an MX 5 with a full suspension set up, with catback exhaust and some light weight Mazdaspeed goodies and it was Boring!!! I pushed that little car to the limit, and untuned it was Boring. Yet I drove my brother in laws tuned 350Z Nismo and had a blast on the track. It kept begging me for more and I gave it all I could. I was very confident in the car and it's potential and I felt like a true racer on the track. I'll be trying out a Hyundai Genises Coupe on the next track visit with my friends and family. It's been boosted and has a host of other performance goodies on it.

[@supersayin1]

***** I ment to say Untuned 350Z Nismo. It was stock!

[@Stuka87]

supersayin1 If it was boring it means you didn't push it hard enough. A 350/370Z has more power, but will not take corners or provide the same level of driver feedback when compared to the MX5.

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

" Drag racing's for little girls." Roman, my old son, you've never spoken truer words.

[@imreeflexx1878]

MrKeyboardCommando facts

[@TheRealRacePulse]

Wtf is this

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

@@TheRealRacePulse That's exactly what I thought when I read your comment.

[@TheRealRacePulse]

@@MrKeyboardCommando this drag race sucks

[@TheRealRacePulse]

@@MrKeyboardCommando and also what is that supposed to mean edit: nvm

[@courtcox7075]

the new tc's in my opinion look better too. I mean sure the frs looks cool af no doubt, but idk the newest tc's look freaking dope. And with more torque it's def more fun to drive on the street

[@maddyfernandez6497]

I have a scion tc manual and i'd like to see how that would do with the frs

[@Primitivegarage915]

Horrible launch on that FRS... I call bullshit.

[@carbrickscity]

Agree, also bad shifting perhaps. That tC, on the other had, is automatic.

[@awuesltcihn9394]

They should also have the same driver test both to make sure.

[@hduncan2587]

vader11111 The launch, yeah, that was bad. But if you watch the hot-lap (part two should be near by on the sidebar), he acknowledges the bad launches. Listen to the shifts when he's coming up to the finish line, and Roman is firing them off fine. My guess is not only is the elevation a pain in the ass for this car, but they're stuck with press-fleet cars that have a number more miles than they should have had. Just a few thousand miles on press test cars is enough to make a clutch go kaput.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

Like you could do any better...these guys do this for a living.

[@Erelyt]

buildmorefarms100 hahahahahahha

[@sdaftermath123]

FRS is made for drifting and turning, not drag races. this is stupid.

[@MyGUNZ123]

no one cares about turns

[@ywe3]

sdaftermath123 nope...it's meant to look good and be expensive...the tC beats it everywhere

[@ShockinglyBleh]

You say this but they did a video racing these on the track, the TC was only behind the FRS by 1 second.

[@buddybestor]

I just smoked a scion tC the other day with my FRS...this vid is BS. Prob didn't even take TC off...and literally didn't even make any tire spin on takeoff.

[@sdaftermath123]

buddy i've beaten tc's with my frs too. mines stock as well. They're not like camaro's or GT's, but they're quick little cars. they're super light which i think helps alot. makes the care feel like it's got around 230 hp instead of 205

[@HighTideEDC]

The FRS needs a driver mod. I pull on TC's at the track almost every time with the exception of boosted TC's. The FRS limits power a lot unless all controls are turned off. Horrible launch in this video. The FRS weighs 2700 lbs. 20 lbs of torque with the added weight of the TC beating the FRS simply doesn't add up.

[@eltingville81]

I don't understand why Toyota doesn't put more HP and torque in the FRS. I mean they only have to put mid 200 range in HP and torque and this car would be a different animal. It's not a cheap car in price I don't get it.

[@Heetcat6]

i dont get it either it could be more fun

[@slagle123456]

mark ocampo hunt down an Evo VIII.

[@starbai410]

They should of put a 2.5L Boxer instead of the 2.0L for at least more torque & some hp

[@AndySo2000]

I own a 2012 tC and I recently rented a camry, they are completely different on so many levels. Just because it shares the same platform and saying you know that doesn't make you sound very knowledgeable about cars. The tC is very heavily designed the Camry isnt it's pretty weak in cimparison

[@AndySo2000]

Same guy, just bought an FRS and I have to say it's waaaay more fun than the tC. The tC isn't shit compared to the FRS, I will say that the tC is a little beast and handles well. But the tC doesn't have rear wheel drive or a subaru boxer engine and I have way more fun in a FRS than my tC. The tC is fun and a lot cheaper I'd recommend a tC over it's competitors in that price range.

[@jimmypena2442]

Andy S I’d agree. I added some eibachs to mine and its a dream to take on curves. Just wish aftermarket was as good as the 86 which is where it has it beat.

[@ftniceberg874]

@@jimmypena2442 the 86 is the FRS 🤣😂

[@jimmypena2442]

@@ftniceberg874 I’ve known since the car was announced.

[@TheStuntastik]

ToyotaBuru stated they were going to work on giving the FR-S-BRZ more ponies but it looks like I'll have to wait a bit longer.

[@997Productions]

You're not wrong about that buddy. Its 2021 now and they definitely are adding slightly more power to the platform.

[@chibba5418]

Crazy to think the automatic tC is quicker than the manual FR-S (which is geared like a sports car), because the manual tC is a bit quicker than the automatic. Undersquare engine vs oversquare engine on short distance, but still, the FR-S revs higher, and it actually has a better torque to weight ratio even tho it's 20lb-ft less, not to mention the 30hp more and RWD on 200lbs less.

[@tonydavila2606]

Is that how the stock exhaust sounds?

[@byronnlangley]

They lost me when they dragged a manual against an auto when both come equipped with either or

[@byronnlangley]

+Tanner M. What I'm saying is it wasn't a fair comparison, now I know it's probably what they had on hand but it just means that X configuration will pull Z configuration and has nothing to do with the brands or models. If it was a the same for both models then yes it could be determined that brand X pulls Brand Z in that model.

[@byronnlangley]

+Tanner M. Bro I'm all about that I own a 2011 scion TC and I know how much torque they have, the FRS is more of a high rpm track car which is is great at. The FRS is a great concept but many insiders feel Subaru should have added more power with a turbo. Personally I feel Subaru didn't want to undercut its WRX sales.

[@Shortay1325]

Everyone, the drag experiment they did is terrible. My fiance and I own a 2014 Scion tC 6-speed manual for our daily and my fiance personally owns a 2017 Toyota 86 6-speed manual. We raced them both stock and I can tell you right now that they are way closer than this crap. The torque on the tC takes the 86/frs/brz up until about 65 mph, give or take a few mph, and then the 86/frs/brz shines with its high end power and starts walking away after that. I thought I would fill all of you in to clear some things up since both my fiance and I own the manual versions of these cars.

[@hduncan2587]

Another thing to consider here, most drag racers know that an automatic is more consistant (if not always faster) than a manual, again putting the tC at an advantage (a manual is quicker in these cars if you look at magazine test, but again-- consistency by helping eliminate driver error helps here). And indeed, being a mile from sea level is bad for any N/A car, especially one considered so gutless-- buy hey, the hp/torque difference is still less than the S2000! The nice thing about the tC against the Si and GTi is it is what it is-- there is no "base" model with less power (albeit the bones are based on an economy car outside the U.S., but that's another story).

[@buildmorefarms1007]

Lotus has used Camry engines for years, there is no shame in that. They are quicker than most people realize and have massive tuner potential.

[@marlonsanchez2504]

Hi guys i just brought. 2008 tc but im wondering if its a good car and would like a professional opinion thanks

[@707bayarealife]

I own a 2015 scion Tc and I guarantee you it will beat a stock frs in the quarter mile. I have raced a BRZ & FRS in my tC and have won both times. In case for the FRS to stand a chance it would need a perfect launch with perfect gear timing. But even then, the odds are against it.

[@AlphaXGamingAXG]

Automatic v automatic would be more of a test, FR-S having around a 6-6.2 ish 0-60 and T-C having around a 7.4-7.6 0-60

[@ericn8742]

I shit faster tham that start, sorry lol but the Tc would have won either way. Nice review guys

[@AceDriver2012]

+Eric Noa Yes I agree there, the TC's engine is balanced but has enough power to take a FR-S. I would still want to have an FR-S for my ride though over a TC any day.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

+AceDriver2012 tC is the better car.

[@AceDriver2012]

+buildmorefarms100 True tc has more power. From a tuners perspective the layout for a Fr-s imo would be best. Any car built right can have decent power. I would look more at the platform rear wheel drive vs front wheel more so.

[@Ichibuns]

300hp would be plenty. What it desperately needs is torque. Other than the sound, I have no idea why Subaru wants to keep using the boxer

[@Ichibuns]

I still think the Tc sounds much better though

[@buildmorefarms1007]

Both incredibly fun, reliable and sporty cars.

[@jarforsythe]

Toyota and Subaru need to get their shit together with the FRS and BRZ. No one wants a sports car that stock, can't beat a Scion TC in a drag race.

[@supersayin1]

***** honestly I think they called it that to simply get it more buyers. A friend of mine test drove the BRZ and still decided to get a 2012 Hyundai Genises Coupe. Why because he said it felt more like a true sports car, because it had more power and it was far more fun to take into The corners. The FRS and BRZ are not true drivers cars , but they can be with more power and torque.

[@Christopher_Black]

supersayin1 it is the fact that the BRZ/FR-S is so underpowered that makes them drivers cars. Anyone can be fast in a powerful car but it takes real good drivers to be fast in a modestly powerful car.

[@mr220v]

And this is still with the TC's massively detuned ecu. Detuned power, detuned suspension, just to let the frs win in some categories, or at least not look so bad.

[@hduncan2587]

I'm not too surprised, as I know tC1's and tC2's mufflers are more aggressive than most Toyota products... honestly I think it sounded a bit better than the FR-S. hell, there's actually some pop behind it.

[@iris132]

I keep forgetting that the tc has a powerful sound for a single exhaust car

[@2583060]

what was the 0 to 60 on the tC a mile above sea level, automatic trans?

[@DarathyC]

Isn't the frs known for its handling and ease of use? It's known for its drifting qualities. Why are people comparing their cars speed and hp with it? It's obviously not a drag car.

[@eloyleyva]

It's so sad that the frs is so weak in power and torque cuz to me it's such a sexy car. I would love to own one but the numbers that it puts out is what holds me back :/ not worth trading my 350z

[@ShobonStudios]

frs or tc I don't know what to get I like both but I travel a lot so id go with a tc has more room for luggage and I like a quick car but what is the point when 1 traffic and 2 cops yeah the frs is nice but I don't need 200 hp plus the back seat is useless if I diddent travel so much id say frs cause its neat and why not ive got friends with each car so ive been able to drive them both which car you choose is what you prefer im not trashing any cars here im looking at the moment for a car im asking what would be a good buy

[@larsfrerichs7174]

So the 0-60 stats are false online then. The FRS with the 6 speed is supposed to throw out a 6.5 second 0-60 and the automatic Tc a 7.4 0-60.

[@rickytrevino8281]

The TC isn't a sports car it's a hatchback coupe that just happens to have some kick to it, which is why I love it so much. It's like a sports car except this one has a comfortable roomy interior, backseats that are actually usuable, hatchback trunk to fit large items (especially when you fold the seats down), good looks, great reliability, and great gas mileage. Its no typical camaro/mustang/challenger but its alot more convenient. Not only will you enjoy it but so will the bitches in the backseat, plus its fun to drive

[@sheffrespawnz7235]

I got a 2006 scion tc for 2000$ in 2017 and it still runs great in 2021

[@seabass9302000]

Can u guys do something with a 2014 honda accord at imi

[@fuffthebucks7266]

Pretty sure the TC is not a sports car but is just a tryhard hatchback

[@JonahLongworth]

Conner Hendrick exactly what I’m saying

[@ddop100]

The scion Tc looks like a nissan cube thats been flattened

[@reynation.21]

I will stick with the scion tc...some heathers,low it,light rims,flow master exhaust thats about it

[@Dyl_Cam]

A couple Heather's sounds like a good time 😏

[@chocolatemilk9102]

you have any videos on the flowmaster exhaust? I’m trying to see if i should do a magnaflow straight through muffler or a flowmaster muffler

[@markwithamaxima2680]

calls a tc a camry, dude it has a 2arfe engine not the 2azfe engine which is shared thru majority of Toyota cars, the 2ar has about the same tq at the crank like the frs, frs just has a few more ponies

[@buildmorefarms1007]

There is no replacement for displacement...the 2.5 whooped up on the 2.0.

[@ftniceberg874]

Finally! Someone in the comments that shows a little engine knowledge!

[@deacon_leon]

I wonder if the race would closer at sea level.

[@lfsracer79]

I don't think so, they're both normally aspirated.

[@deacon_leon]

lfsracer79 yep your right.

[@TEDdotcom]

I never thought little girls love drag racing...i like the FRS but its the tC FTW!

[@austinmcdonald2795]

I believe it, I drive a tc trd and was bumper to bumper with my friends 2017 wrx

[@larsfrerichs7174]

Austin mcdonald damn really? What all do you have done to it?

[@fatboy19831]

I know you guys are not drag racers but what a horrible launch for the FRS. You have to turn off all the electronics and do a 4600 rpm clutch drop. Even a mile high the FRS will pull on the TC when in its power-band. From a dead stop with the traction control on it does not stand a chance. It will bog down off the line and at 4000 rpm. Torque gets you moving. HP and light weight will win out in the end.

[@aisu8481]

what, did you leave traction control on?? My goodness man...

[@jmer3536]

next time get two cars with the same transmissions.

[@tylerthenormal9059]

Still would rather buy the fr-s because it handles better and looks better

[@soldado23]

Yeap, reason I got me the TC. I drove from El Paso, TX to Ft Eustis, VA. Trust me, I love the TC. All my luggage fit perfectly, and with the back seats down, I was able to take a nap, too. Hehehe

[@TWalk-mq9zx]

Why can't the frs cone with at least 172 lb ft tq?

[@Ichibuns]

Boxer engine. Subaru loves them for some reason. They sound good but thats about it

[@SpartanRacing1989]

I challenge your FR-S against my 09 tC it is a five speed manual and for now is completely stock

[@chrisvithaya]

BS. I own an Fr-s and raced a Tc that year and took him 3 times back to back. Looked like the Frs drive pre-loaded his drive train, but didn't turn on traction control completely.

[@Travis_Hewitt]

The tC is a better car than it gets credit for. I like both the tC and the FR-S. Both cars have their place and btw the tC has been around nine years longer than the FR-S.

[@TheTallAbacus]

Anyone can tell you which is the better sports car. That's an elementary question. A better one is, which is the better car at being what it's intended to be? The FRS is a letdown in done ways and the TC had it's own unique flavor. A sports car it's NOT though.

[@NiTheGod]

why do people keep doing drag races on frs? it's not made for drag racing

[@aarontapatio2257]

Get rid of that auto tC bro, cause the manuals are a lot faster!

[@matt25675]

what is the song at 1:00

[@jokesonyou9249]

why does the tc sound way cooler than the sports car?

[@XenomorphLV426]

I find it sad that these cars have performance figures on par with sport compacts from the early 2000s.

[@fartman10284]

the Lotus Evora has a Camry engine

[@hduncan2587]

So does a Camry :p But come on, the Toyota V6 is in a totally different league to the 2.5L. I'll attest that the 2.5L is better in sound and punch versus the 2.5L (you hear enough floored and you can hear a difference), the 2.5L doesn't scare the competitors. That V6, however, puts up a damned good fight against cars with 20-40hp more.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

Harvey Duncan Lotus used to use a 1.8 liter 4 cyl Toyota engine in the Elise Harvey

[@hduncan2587]

buildmorefarms100 That's still not a Camry engine. It was a 2ZZ-GE which was engineered by Yahmaha with VVTL-i, and had 180hp/130ftlb in Toyota Celica GTS/Matrix XRS guise, and 170/127ftlb (with fatter torque curve) in the Corolla XRS (different ECU, which a lot of Corolla owners swap out to get the power back). My Echo uses the same oil filter as the 2ZZ, actually... either it's under-engineered for the 2ZZ-GE, or over-engineered for the 1NZ-FE :p

[@anthonyapost]

why would you test a manual vs a auto on a track

[@hduncan2587]

I don't care how quick the tC is in a drag race-- I know it gives the FR-S a good run for its money there. That doesn't make it a sports car like an FR-S is. Sport compact, yes, but not a sports car... and you're still far better off going with a Civic Si, GTi, etc. By saying the tC is more logical of a buy than the FR-S-- yes, it is. But that's where the difference between a hot-hatch/sport compact and a devoted sports car comes in.

[@Shinuchiha_99]

Haha alright Ken block 😂

[@Ace-vw6dn]

why did u rev on a cold engine

[@TheFroInBristow]

Like Roman said, the FR-S REALLY needs a turbo option. I don't know why they haven't bothered making one yet, but it really, really needs one. But at least my car won the drag race

[@Guitarplayer219]

Does anyone really take any Scion on the track?

[@Titopro88]

People say it doesnt need a turbo because of what kind of car it is, it is built to be a fun car, not the fastest car, but a turbo would be nice

[@IISOLOIIDOLOII]

Fuck... Just bought an FRS literally today

[@Lilfreshzislive]

+Fxckin Civik same here

[@electrictroy2010]

+Fxckin Civik NEXT time watch car reviewers. For years critics have posted videos showing FRS is weak on horsepower. my preference is the Honda S2000. Rear-wheel drive, perfect balance, AND horsepower. The professionals over at EverydayDriver agree . . .

[@nathanwtp95]

the dual exhaust is much better looking though

[@dasspr]

+Nathan Compton (Dirtycur) a dual exhaust in a 4cyl is useless

[@nathanwtp95]

I wasn't saying it was better in perfomance, just looks.

[@dvoh4920]

So the tC wins and it sounds better ???

[@BatmanMegan]

They send me a pic of a scion tc 2015 with trd super charger from 2009 scion tc they tell me they had to adtpo part so it work

[@thomasmoss6266]

And this is why my 97 ram 2500 can keep pace with the fr-s in a drag race;I mean it's got me in the corners like nobodies business but damn

[@Shinuchiha_99]

Lol that 97 ram must have like 400 horse then cuz I would smoke you in my 2016 tc.. Smoked my buddies 5.9 2001 ram 2500 hemi the other night by an eighth of a mile... Pretty sure your little sheep wagon couldnt keep up

[@jayk7557]

Imagine if the tc wasn't an automatic. My buddy and I were memeing around in his comfort line Jetta with a stick and smoked an auto v6 challenger. 180tq and 145hp with a stick, vs 190tq and 178hp with an auto

[@berettaxd7566]

Manual is standard for Tc

[@jayk7557]

@@berettaxd7566 yeah my tc is manual. First gear rips hard. 60kmh to redline in like 2 seconds. Really peppy for a 4 cylinder. Less than 7 seconds to 100kmh

[@BuiltForSpeed]

I can beat the tc easy, the only distance he can get me for is max 200meters ill get him after that in 1/4 mile race u need to know how to use paddles.

[@joshiahutabarat6315]

Scion TC was sounding like a cup car somehow but they both slow af

[@jordan5552]

Should have got the scion tc in stick

[@kenzhang6349]

Learned one thing, drivers do matter. Damn trolls. My grandma would have a better start off with that FR-S.

[@guttergadgetzz6193]

Everyone on here is acting like they never heard of building their cars.. my tC is running 341 hp with stage 2 tune

[@guttergadgetzz6193]

Also many other things not just a tune

[@nappiral]

The Prius tires they put on there are ridiculously skinny.

[@needforsuv]

scion with a camry engine vs a toyota with a subaru engine hmmm

[@jeffreybonanno8982]

maybe a lil more specificity wold make your comment sound like an interesting race. Otherwise, all you've done is make two vague references, that manifested themselves together, in the form of one nonsensical sentence.

[@zzz5602]

whaat ? that was a drag race ?

[@Ninjadragon40]

I think it's funny because the FRS puts down the same power as a Toyota Camry Hybrid

[@2minQuickie]

its not that hard to find a Manua TC, and its even easier to find an auto FRS.

[@JessieBusher]

I'm pretty sure my 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer could of had a better start off...

[@htceris]

LOL and it probably would still beat them

[@Refort610]

I use to own an '11 lancer and now I own a '15 tc. the tc pulls harder. The cvt on the lancer bogs down too much on launch.

[@htceris]

+Refort610 for real?

[@p0werc0rdz]

+Jessica Rose lol your 1km behind with your lancer.

[@JessieBusher]

+Refort610 I've got 2012 Lancer, cold air intake :3

[@velocity211]

these two are in very different classes, comparing apples to oranges.

[@NathanDAdlen]

That's what we do.

[@PrinceDavid]

Honestly this is an EMBARRASSMENT that the FR-S gets beat in a drag race by a tC. Yes yes we bloody get it you want to have your car a lightweight sports car like the AE86 but that's not an excuse for a SPORTS car to be beat by a SPORTY car

[@supersayin1]

Agreed!!!

[@PrinceDavid]

supersayin1 Toyota can make very good engines, in fact the Camry engines are fantastic. I don't know why the engine they put in the FR-S was so lame.

[@Stuka87]

Prince David Because the engine in the FR-S is a Subaru engine. A very underpowered one at that. If a WRX can have a turbo and AWD for nearly the same cost, there is no reason why the FR-S/BRZ couldn't also have a turbo.

[@ecreamer81]

Tc has similar power and less drivetrain loss bc FWD

[@luisgonzalez131]

I wouldn't buy either car even if it was 50% off. Why would you like getting smoked by a mini van

[@johnx585]

Woman Rights h

[@techboy95]

this part 1 should have been 1 minute or less

[@86arte]

It's funny hahah I own both these slow ass cars. My 86 is fun in the canyons though I was chasing a V6 Camaro and it kept up quite nicely, was on his tail most of the time. I tuned it with a catted header so it was able to stay behind even when he tried to pull away on the straight lines. So it's not horribly slow once you fix that torque dip.

[@ftniceberg874]

My man bragging about losing 🤣😂

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

I can't see these Scions being a success in the USA. They require a degree of skill from the driver to extract their performance, one can't rely on huge dollops of torque to overcome driver ineptitude. They're a lot more than US drivers can handle.

[@carbonbonds3019]

I agree. Seems like all US drivers care about is straight line speed. Fucking pathetic. There is also a reason why all of these RWD cars are crashing left and right, dumb fucks can't even correct a simple oversteer.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

They are a huge success here in America, you wish you lived in the USA!

[@rykalskyes8888]

Another stereotypical comment about Americans. You'd be very suprised, MrKeyboard, at how many Americans know what they're about with a good car and curvy road. Or do you think all American roads are straight? Spend some time with Google Earth.

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

buildmorefarms100 A huge success ???? I'm sure Toyota will be delighted, if a little surprised, by that news. Pandemonium is preferable to the USA.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

MrKeyboardCommando You mad bro? Haters gonna hate...

[@keohma]

"Nice Subaru you got there." Damm

[@zotzotzot]

This is the most interesting video about FRS

[@TsukuyomiPlayz]

Lets see a manual tc vs frs

[@bclemente95]

Id rather get the TC but honestly they are both under powered, toyota is falling behind....