Snow Tires vs. Chains vs. Snow Socks: One of THESE Provides The Best Snow Traction!

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@TFLcar
@TFLcar 11 ай бұрын
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@s13drftr
@s13drftr 11 ай бұрын
Why not try snow tires with studs?
@youngblood23rb
@youngblood23rb 11 ай бұрын
No promo code?!
@ml9867
@ml9867 11 ай бұрын
I wish you would have included your Michelin CrossClimate2 tires in this. Can snow chains or cables be put on snow tires or is the rubber too soft?
@streighty
@streighty 11 ай бұрын
I like the idea of them, 25 MPH limit is a deal breaker for me.
@andreasm2882
@andreasm2882 10 ай бұрын
I am shocked about the performance of the snow socks. I have been using Blizzacks for o Er 30 years now which is just unbelievable performance when I am hitting pure ice. I wonder how those socks would perform on pure ice .
@maxkendal5152
@maxkendal5152 11 ай бұрын
I bought some snow socks a couple of years ago. I was working in an area that was having constant snow and was on a steep incline (South of England). Great for getting you out of trouble but not fora journey. I keep them in the car for that extremely rare occasion.
@joshuaa.5523
@joshuaa.5523 9 ай бұрын
Something I noticed about chains is that they churn up the snow and ice for better traction for other drivers coming after you, which is an unintended benefit. I find myself thanking the drivers with chains when I drive after them. We had a brief one day snowfall followed by a half-inch ice storm and having the ice churned up by chains was very helpful.
@Artyomthewalrus
@Artyomthewalrus 11 ай бұрын
Part of the problem with them cable snow chains is they don't have constant contact with the ground, especially when braking. I think the results would be very different with a quality set of diamond pattern chains. Throw them on ice, and they'll blow all other options out the window Although I'm in the boat of always running winter tires, and then having chains as a backup ontop of that for real extreme scenarios where you actually need to the bite into ice. No point going half measures with snow chains
@Mongo6186
@Mongo6186 5 күн бұрын
Agreed, unfortunately, many vehicles these days cannot run those diamond pattern chains. Trucks, yes. Many sedans and crossovers can only use cables or textile chains for clearance.
@jngobngo
@jngobngo 11 ай бұрын
Used the snow socks once last year and my 35 minute commute was easy compared to other cars, no brainer
@jacobmiller6664
@jacobmiller6664 11 ай бұрын
So the socks would be pretty useless in slushy/ice conditions? Pretty much anytime you dont have loose dry snow, since they need to pick up snow to work
@bionicwolf3342
@bionicwolf3342 11 ай бұрын
Didn’t know Snow Socks existed.
@CaptainAstrum
@CaptainAstrum 11 ай бұрын
Same
@Ken_Koonz
@Ken_Koonz 11 ай бұрын
I didn't want to know they existed.
@Silverback_GMT410
@Silverback_GMT410 11 ай бұрын
You’ve never watched TFL?
@Ken_Koonz
@Ken_Koonz 11 ай бұрын
@@Silverback_GMT410 Not every video. Maybe every one in three. Some are not interesting to me and, therefore, are not worth my time.
@jguil4d
@jguil4d 11 ай бұрын
Snow socks are great. One thing he didn’t mention about them is that they are a wear item. If you’re frequently needing to use traction aids like chains, then you should probably stick with chains. Being cloth, the socks will wear through on longer uses. But if you just need a set of traction aids as an emergency item, then socks are great. Not perfect (because nothing is), but really great. They’re easier to store in the vehicle, quicker to put them on, and they work really really well in the snow. We use socks on motor coaches, and they work great even for heavy commercial vehicles.
@KPHVAC
@KPHVAC 11 ай бұрын
If you only get occasional snow I highly recommend the Michelin CrossClimate 2 tires. A real all season tire that is also snow peak rated is awesome! I got mine last winter and they are perfect for Western Washington state.
@Mapavia89
@Mapavia89 11 ай бұрын
It’s called an All Weather tire. It’s actually a really great tire.
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl 11 ай бұрын
I have those on my Grand Marquis and they do a fantastic job.
@trebors386
@trebors386 11 ай бұрын
@@Mapavia89on Michelin’s website it’s a all season tire. No such thing as an all weather tire. Just like there is no official thing called winter tire it’s called a snow tire
@nyedavis922
@nyedavis922 11 ай бұрын
100% agreed. Not all 'all seasons' are created equal. Michelin's CC2 are phenomenal. We drove a rwd Merc from the UK to Kosovo in February, encountered blizzards and unplowed mountain passes (particularly in Montenegro) and the tyres performed phenomenally; predictable, stable handling, braking and acceleration. As well as performing admirably in the snow, they also happily sat for sustained periods at 130mph on the autobahn
@Mapavia89
@Mapavia89 11 ай бұрын
@@trebors386 it says All Weather right on the tire 🤷‍♂️ and it’s Snow rated… an All Season tire wouldn’t be snow rated hence why this is called an All Weather
@joeyg283
@joeyg283 11 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see these tests performed with studded tires too.
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 11 ай бұрын
100% agree. I live near these guys, and in the horrific winter of 06-07, I ran studs, and they were amazing on my old Sub..
@joeyg283
@joeyg283 11 ай бұрын
@@richfarfugnuven6308 thanks for sharing that. I may need to invest in a set.
@mikemazzantini6397
@mikemazzantini6397 11 ай бұрын
I doubt you'd see much difference in these conditions, ice is where they really shine.
@leightonmoreno3855
@leightonmoreno3855 10 ай бұрын
Also, test standard shaped studs vs. triangular shaped studs (nokian hakkapeliita 9 and 10)
@EV_times
@EV_times 10 ай бұрын
problem with studded tires is the studs are fixed, so the only way to get rid of them is to change tires...snow socks are more convenient as you can take them on and off. Also, studs can cause damage to the roads on days there's no snow on the asphalt, and they're also very noisy.
@aliciabartezaghi6963
@aliciabartezaghi6963 8 ай бұрын
I checked Amazon customers reviews on these K&K and general complaint is that the inside seam tears off and the band rips/wears out after one use and adhering to instructions. USD 120 for a couple hours use is too expensive. A durability test before recommending the item would be excellent. Thank you and saludos desde 🇺🇾 Uruguay
@jguil4d
@jguil4d 11 ай бұрын
One thing I’d like to see is how socks compare to chain on ice, especially the kind of ice you’d get in a freezing rain situation. We don’t want to drive in freezing rain, but some of us live in rural or semi-rural locations where an emergency may compel us to try to drive to the hospital when conditions are sub-optimal.
@JETZcorp
@JETZcorp 11 ай бұрын
Socks are very ineffective on ice. They do a bit better than all-seasons, but a lot worse than winter tires. Traditional link chains absolutely dominate on ice. The "Tyre Reviews" channel did an excellent comparison recently.
@jguil4d
@jguil4d 11 ай бұрын
@@JETZcorp Thanks. That was my intuition, but I haven’t actually seen a study.
@AndreaFotopassione
@AndreaFotopassione 10 ай бұрын
Even snow tires are not good on ice, unless you can use them with studs. Snow socks on ice should have more grip than snow tires but you should remove the layer of snow that has accumulated on the fabric.
@darthvader6864
@darthvader6864 9 ай бұрын
They don’t do well in ice, I know people that will swear by them. I live in a ski resort town and you see people stuck es with the socks on all the time. Also they seem to rip easily enough. I would say they are slightly better than not running chains or cables. But just slightly better than winter tires.
@jguil4d
@jguil4d 9 ай бұрын
@@darthvader6864 I work in commercial transportation in Alaska, and some of our drivers swear by socks. I’ve never used them myself, but by observation they’re certainly not as rugged as chains, and seem quite a bit more sensitive than chains to being driven too fast.
@JeffreySeyfert
@JeffreySeyfert 8 ай бұрын
The first test you ended it at the back bumper I believe.. the second text you ended it on the front tire . You need to be pick one point to go to and second thing you need to know where you need to apply the breaks at . If you go over by 5 feet that is 15 feet added on . If you apply 5 feet before you stop 15 feet sooner .
@treswright142
@treswright142 11 ай бұрын
Great video. Living in Colorado, I am tired of seeing big tracks and SUV’s think they have snow traction when any small car with snow tires is safer. I have a 200 Land Cruiser with 3PMSF AT tires and I have a Volvo v60 with a Hakkapeliittas. The Volvo is far far better in the snow.
@Tactical_Pterodactyl_Knives
@Tactical_Pterodactyl_Knives 11 ай бұрын
Snow socks work amazing. Had a 2012 sienna up a in some 11" deep snow but the roads were plowed and it did incredible. No loss of traction taking it easy. Insanely fast to install and remove, and so much less noise and vibration than chains!
@robertboudreau5956
@robertboudreau5956 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I would like to add, even in pavement in very cold weather, stoping in all-season tires is not best. As you mentioned rubber in all-season get rigid therefore stoping in longer than winter tires. From December 1 to March 15 winter tires are the only legal tires allowed in Quebec.
@crowttubebot3075
@crowttubebot3075 11 ай бұрын
True that. All season tires are really 3 season tires. They work well, until water stops being wet. At that point, specialty tires are needed.
@blueman5924
@blueman5924 11 ай бұрын
In BC, they are required on all mtn highways from Oct 7-Spring.
@Bdub1952
@Bdub1952 11 ай бұрын
I'm in Idaho and run Cooper AT3 4S tires year round on both my AWD Element and 4WD Vitara. Highly recommended.
@GTFORDMAN
@GTFORDMAN 11 ай бұрын
one advantage snow chains have over snow socks is that Snow Chains can be used in the mud aswel!
@DrekiTech
@DrekiTech 11 ай бұрын
Would have liked to see the performance of all weather tires with the 3 peak snowflake that can be ran year round.
@deViant14
@deViant14 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I hate when car guys act like they don't exist. (As if they're not The Next Big Thing for the past several years)
@jerryrupe1696
@jerryrupe1696 10 ай бұрын
Not trying to be critical here, I respect and appreciate all that Tfl does they bring us a lot of good information. On the other hand snow tires will not melt in hot conditions, I'm from NW Ohio and moved to south Florida and ran my snow tires for 2 years before replacing them. I didn't plan on moving back to the snow belt and wanted to at least get my money's worth from the tires, figured they'd wear down pretty quick but after 2 yrs they still had 50% life left. They are Artic claw and phenomenal. Also snow cables are good but there's no comparison to snow chains. Chains out preform cables in both acceleration and braking by far.
@kubi0461
@kubi0461 11 ай бұрын
I suppose it makes sense. The socks are essentially a crazy amount of siping. They just don't seem practical to have to take on and off depending on the conditions and speed, but definitely nice to have as an easy option to keep in the car during winter. I still prefer snow tires since there's less to think about as they stay on all winter. And it's not uncommon here to have random snow difting across and otherwise dry highway and always the chance of black ice.. in addition to the periods where the highways are snow packed for days or a couple weeks straight.
@grisa12345
@grisa12345 11 ай бұрын
Agree 100%. Real world conditions often involve many miles of completely mixed conditions, slow speed and high speed. Theres no chance snow socks would hold up in those conditions over time. Constantly taking them off and putting them back on is impractical. Dedicated snow tires are the way to go.
@theseb1979
@theseb1979 11 ай бұрын
Problem with snow socks is that they really are for temporary snow use only. They will wear out very quickly, especially if you drive them on bare road surfaces.
@aritakalo8011
@aritakalo8011 11 ай бұрын
Yeah. Snow rarely comes without ice. Actually I think the one place where it most likely appears is unmaintained minor road with not much traffic. Maintained road? Snow gets plowed away, baring the surface. Which then generates ice on the cold surface due to no insulating Snow. Plus heavy clearing equipment running over packs the remaining snow into snow pack ice. Same with frequently trafficked road. Wheels pack the snow in to ice. Snow sock do have their place, but it is a very niche use. Snow sock is not same as winter tire. It only works on snow and at slow speed. It's a "get out of this specific stuck situation" or "oh no, I got surprised by snow storm on all seasons, I can *limp* to some safe location to wait this out/ make arrangements". It's like emergency spare tire on car. You have an imminent emergency, it helps you crawl out of it. It isnt a normal conditions solution. If one has to use snow socks more than once in winter, get winter tires. Most likely one skirted with danger multiple times that winter already upon driving around and wondering "should I or should I not bother get out and put the socks on". Plus as said socks don't work on ice. Only proper winter tires or tire chains do that. Tire chains being the speed limited extra option.
@danhall3450
@danhall3450 11 ай бұрын
In states like WA where lowland snow is rare (about every other year), but people frequently traverse 10-30 miles of snow covered mountain passes, snow socks are a perfect addition to safe winter driving.
@adaycj
@adaycj 11 ай бұрын
Here in the Midwest we rarely get deep snow. Plus many communities plow and salt quickly qhen we have our few major snow events. What does happen is random ice patches. Often at intersections, bridges, and back roads. For that reason a more permanent solution like a snow tires is preferred. Last year we did a little testing and found that snow socks loose their advantage over snow tires or chains on ice.
@taylormadedaydreams6914
@taylormadedaydreams6914 10 ай бұрын
what midwest are you that you rarely get deep snow LOL I've lived in SE and SW Michigan my entire life and both places get deep snow on a regular basis SW way more often due to the lake but 4 to 8 inches in either location is pretty "avg" for both locations any time it snows, a bad storm easily twice that much
@adaycj
@adaycj 10 ай бұрын
@@taylormadedaydreams6914 SE and SW Michigan haven't had "deep snow" on a roadway for more than 24 hours in at least a decade. This content is about driving cars on roads, not the depth of the snow in the woods or someone's yard. We do have slush, ice, "black ice", and maybe -just maybe- for a short time a thin layer of packed snow to drive on.
@JonathanHitchcock-m6t
@JonathanHitchcock-m6t 11 ай бұрын
Great video! I’m from central WI and drive a rwd Chevy Colorado with no G80 locker. I don’t have winter tires but find I get around just fine 90% of the time. In the 10% that I don’t I carry a set of truck claws in the bed of my truck. They’re amazing. Not something to drive around in, but rather something to strap on to get unstuck or climb an icy hill. They’ve never failed me. I’d love to see a comparison video that includes them to see the results vs other chains, cleats, socks, etc.
@JETZcorp
@JETZcorp 11 ай бұрын
Tyre Reviews has something like that. Uploaded about a week ago.
@JonathanHitchcock-m6t
@JonathanHitchcock-m6t 11 ай бұрын
@@JETZcorp awesome, I’ll check that. I appreciate the heads up!
@JonathanHitchcock-m6t
@JonathanHitchcock-m6t 11 ай бұрын
@@JETZcorp so just looked up he video and found what I think you’re talking about. The straps they use are a little different from truck claws. What I have is a big metal cleat that ratchets onto the tire. It’s got about a 2 inch profile so it’s not something you drive more than a few miles an hour with in a pinch, but it has a steel extender that can be added too to give more surface area. They’re awesome! I’d love to see TFL get a pair to compare. They are pricier-around $350 but much cheaper than a 4 x 4 upgrade on my truck 🤷‍♂️
@elektro3000
@elektro3000 11 ай бұрын
I would have liked to see the comparison against class-leading snow tires such as Nokian Hakkas, Bridgestone Blizzaks, or Michelin X-Ice instead of some also-ran like the Toyos.
@RikAindow
@RikAindow 11 ай бұрын
Interesting video. For anyone in the UK or Europe, All Season tyres here are designed for all season use and the US equivalent are called All Weather tires.
@JarmelSingsKaraoke
@JarmelSingsKaraoke 11 ай бұрын
🎉🎉🎉TOMMY ..CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR ENGAGEMENT 🎉🎉🎉
@bigmurff
@bigmurff 11 ай бұрын
I remember seeing snow socks a long time ago. Don't know why I forgot they existed and didn't know how great they are. Definitely have to look into getting a set for my SUV. Would be much more easier to use socks than having to jack up the vehicle and swap out all 4 of my all season wheels with the snow tire wheels everytime I head up to the snow, then swap them back out once spring hits.
@JETZcorp
@JETZcorp 11 ай бұрын
Socks are really good in snow. BUT, they perform very poorly on ice and will be destroyed if used on dry or wet pavement for even a few meters.
@45Cuber
@45Cuber 11 ай бұрын
I'm very surprised by the results. In my experience chains are king in snow and ice. It's basically like driving with super studded tires. Although that good in slushy conditions. But the cable chains you used are have very little metal in contact with the ground so I'm not to surprised by their bad performance.
@SP10371
@SP10371 11 ай бұрын
I installed snow chains on my sedan when I used to drive to the ski resorts. I did it all by myself. They were pain to install on the side of the road, they made load noise and vibration. I didn’t know snow socks existed at the time. Thanks for the demo!
@lb8313
@lb8313 9 ай бұрын
peerless auto-trac chains… about 90 seconds per tire to put on
@PTI_USA
@PTI_USA 11 ай бұрын
Also what would be great test is to see the results with socks on winter tires and studded tires. What is the setup that will get you really close to stopping on a tarmac?
@matthewmcgee
@matthewmcgee 11 ай бұрын
How long do the socks last? I put on snow tires for the winter months, but still carry cable chains for an emergency and they take up more space than I like. If the weather is so bad that my snow tires aren't good enough, I'm going to seriously consider if I need to be driving anywhere!
@olivier.st-amand
@olivier.st-amand 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video: I really like real world tests on the same vehicule. On the other hand, I don't understand why you chose the Toyo as a snow tire. It's not a really good snow tire. Michelin Ice-Snow, Hakka R5 or Continental Wintercontact would have made this much more interesting.
@Mapavia89
@Mapavia89 11 ай бұрын
Or even the BS Blizzak dmv2
@WheresHerb
@WheresHerb 11 ай бұрын
Even if Tommy chose either of those someone would have said "why didn't you use such and such brand?" He giving a general comparison, not a competition.
@Mapavia89
@Mapavia89 11 ай бұрын
@@WheresHerb yeah but usually when you compare stuff you compare it with an industry standard. That would be the Blizzak or XIce.
@kevinsiggins623
@kevinsiggins623 11 ай бұрын
It seems like these would be great to keep in your car for extreme conditions but my main concern would be how well these hold up over time. It would be great to eventually see a long term review.
@briAction
@briAction 11 ай бұрын
They are definitely only good for emergencies and when on snow covered roads. Pavement will destroy them.
@brandonb.5304
@brandonb.5304 10 ай бұрын
Any kind of ice, rock, or pavement will tear them to shreds. They're definitely only good on snow.
@uro6761
@uro6761 10 ай бұрын
I've actually ran them on my semi truck and they hold up better than you would think. Because they are so easy on/off, as soon as you hit asphalt, 3 minutes and your good to go! They do not work well in deep snow, for those conditions you still need chains.
@__WJK__
@__WJK__ 10 ай бұрын
@@uro6761 - Good to know, thanks for sharing the information!
@genedediosful
@genedediosful 10 ай бұрын
Very good analysis. Thanks for taking the time to make this excellent video. Very clear.
@o0oitzJimmy
@o0oitzJimmy 11 ай бұрын
Should of done allterrain tires too. Saw a video awhile ago about snow socks, ended up getting chains for my ride, but after this, I gotta look into it again.
@mikedebear
@mikedebear 9 ай бұрын
Snow socks work great when there's snow covering the road. When the state patrol requires chains because the snow level is near the top of of the mountain pass, you'll often drive several miles on wet or slushy pavement before hitting the snow. Snow socks last about a mile or two on bare pavement before getting destroyed in my experience. Pretty expensive alternative. Since that mountain pass was my daily commute to work and probably 40 days each year were chains required (unless you had four wheel drive) I opted to go with an SUV to avoid the hassle.
@BSPOKELLC
@BSPOKELLC 11 ай бұрын
Great work, and thanks for doing this in the snow and changing tires too. Normalized for the same speed was a great comparison.🎉
@jp51552
@jp51552 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Great information. I'd be interested to see chains with 'ladder' configuration on two & four tires and as another commenter mentioned 'studded' tires. The problem where I am is that we more often get ice rather than snow.
@davidgonzales82
@davidgonzales82 11 ай бұрын
Really great video! I wonder if the chains would perform better in compact snow/ Ice. Also it would be cool to see how a 3 peak rated tire performs compared to these. Excellent work 🎉
@theseb1979
@theseb1979 11 ай бұрын
Chains will perform best on ice. Go check out the tyre reviews channel for excellent tyre testing. Socks are useless on ice.
@DigitalJeremy
@DigitalJeremy 11 ай бұрын
The very first test was a snowflake/3 peak tire
@nocoolname32
@nocoolname32 11 ай бұрын
compacted snow/ice AND....deep snow, they would be fighting for first place with the snow tires and the chains almost act like paddles in the deep snow.
@JL-wf2wp
@JL-wf2wp 10 ай бұрын
The chains are only beated by studded tires. Also look for the new Michelin chains, they are as good as studded tires
@nandesho96
@nandesho96 11 ай бұрын
Even though this was clearly a sponsored commercial, the Gran Turismo like music kept me watching.
@jamesoldman3021
@jamesoldman3021 11 ай бұрын
Live in the Canadian Rockies and the best way to go is snow tires and my preference is to have them studded. Socks or chains would be great for that hill you can't climb otherwise as an all round winter use, they would be useless.
@tallll70
@tallll70 11 ай бұрын
Finally some tests on brand new 2024 snow, it can be so deceiving for newcomer in rented awd in snow, my tires were just all terrains and i could not make it slide when i was testing it on big parking lot, i went in little suburb few houses subdivision on side of mountain to test further and almost no slides very good grip, i bought cables to make sure before i left city, but never needed them, 50,60 mph on 4 lanes hwy didn't feel like problem, but we all know better and should stay vigilant
@Crankshaft-cq1nd
@Crankshaft-cq1nd 11 ай бұрын
On my car, I have a set of toyo Celsius II all weather tires. I live in the Chicago suburbs, and these tires have performed great year round. They are like a better all season tire because they are actually 3 peak snow rated
@chrisstilwell9869
@chrisstilwell9869 11 ай бұрын
I have pirelli Scorpion all terrain plus tires on my vehicle. They also have 3 peak rating and they perform great in northern Wisconsin winters.
@Crankshaft-cq1nd
@Crankshaft-cq1nd 11 ай бұрын
@@chrisstilwell9869 mine are on a 05 camry. My one friend has those scorpions on his pickup and they are great
@TheTonny1310
@TheTonny1310 10 ай бұрын
It corresponds very well to my own experience from the skiing holiday last year. The car was fitted with winter tyres, but it was difficult to get up some of the hills. When we fitted the snow socks, we got just the extra grip we needed. But the socks are not long-lasting. They lasted the skiing holiday, but then they were done too. What I would really like to see is a test of Michelin's Easy Grip mounted on winter tires, not All season tires.
@ErikB750
@ErikB750 11 ай бұрын
Great to see a review of snow socks that is postive. I’ve seen many fail during the test. Imagine a RWD car braking on snow …. Where do you want those snow socks: on the rear, the driven wheels or on the front where most of the braking force is applied ? 4 socks seems to be the best option….
@ayboss44
@ayboss44 11 ай бұрын
K&K ones are tough. They are more thick heavier than AutoSock and cover more area on tire so they wont rip of or tear.
@trebors386
@trebors386 11 ай бұрын
The only bad thing about chains, cables, and socks, you can’t drive with the flow of traffic and in Colorado you would have to pull over many times between Denver and Vail to take them off and on as you almost always hit long periods of dry roads before the next snow packed stretch
@donnahughes4652
@donnahughes4652 4 күн бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for your video on the different types for snow. I’ve been wanting the snow socks for awhile now. I wasn’t real sure. I’ll be getting them for my SUV. I’m not in snow here only once in awhile. Mostly if i’m going were snow could be in forecast. (I live Southern Arizona- we can get some snow) Will be traveling up North soon! Thanks again! 👍🏻🤗
@journeywithstu7199
@journeywithstu7199 11 ай бұрын
I never put on chains to help me stop, rather to help me go. Once going I wasn’t worried about acceleration, just keep me going. Of course, back then it was for emergency only, and it was the only option.
@freddyhollingsworth5945
@freddyhollingsworth5945 11 ай бұрын
4 fully studded snow/ice tires on my 03 Town Car, RWD only...+ I carry a set of snow cables in the trunk for an emergency..I've went up huge mountains in 8 inches of snow and stopped no problem on a sheet of ice when everyone else was in the ditch...
@ayboss44
@ayboss44 11 ай бұрын
Studdeds are illegal on most states. Dont even mention EU
@m4l490n
@m4l490n 11 ай бұрын
Well, those K&K guys got a new customer.
@BigRedtheGinger
@BigRedtheGinger 11 ай бұрын
To me, cables usually aren't very good. I run a set of Quality Chain Corp Diamond Back chains on my 2020 Civic(sedan, sport trim, 6MT, factory 18s), and the only time I did get stuck was going through about 5" or so of slush, going up a steep hill(CA138). Those are much easier to put on than other chains or cables, in my experience. I should mention that I have 2 sets of wheels, OEM with Bridgestone Blizzak WS90 tires for winter, and Motegi Racing MR131 Traklite with BFG GForce Comp2 AS for the rest of the year.
@jessem_i31
@jessem_i31 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting this. I drive up the 138 often and was thinking about what type of traction aids to buy.
@locholoco
@locholoco 11 ай бұрын
You missed completely a new category.. All weather...I used them and impressed me...
@mattbrown2701
@mattbrown2701 2 ай бұрын
Any Honda all-wheel-drive is great Snow best things I’ve ever driven in the Snow specifically Ridgeline in my case but I’m sure the pilots really good too
@taylormadedaydreams6914
@taylormadedaydreams6914 10 ай бұрын
thanks just bought a pair not due to your video was already researching them and had seen amazon reviews but this video made me feel better about my choice I'm in SW Mi with that lake affect snow so I need it for in town driving on the days where the snow comes down all day
@dizastro5437
@dizastro5437 10 ай бұрын
Growing up, we just had studded tires on the drive set. Only legal half the year, but wurkt like phonix for those snowy/icy months.
@einfeldt777
@einfeldt777 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely love this video’s, so full of information and super helpful. Thank you for fighting the cold, and coming up with new winter “need to know” ideas every year 👍👍👍
@kristinmcclendon2543
@kristinmcclendon2543 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. Wish I could have seen them all climb and descend a hill. My driveway is my trickiest spot for winter.
@saint_keeblerElf
@saint_keeblerElf 10 ай бұрын
I just bought a pair of snow socks for my 2015 jeep grand Cherokee 4x4 that i iust purchased because it came with all season tires on 20 inch wheels. Just until I can purchase set of A/T.
@kevinmanan1304
@kevinmanan1304 5 күн бұрын
You should start adding all weather (all season with snowflake) to these tests. It doesn’t snow enough for me to get a winter set but it does snow for one-two weeks a year. I wouldn’t consider all season ever again now that all weather exists but I’m curious on results if it even makes a difference.
@robertcoran4875
@robertcoran4875 10 ай бұрын
Just crashed my car on a set of all seasons. Snow tires are a must have!!
@snakevenom4954
@snakevenom4954 7 ай бұрын
If you're going to use snow socks or chains, use them on all 4 wheels. Even if you have front wheel drive, your rear wheels can lose traction and turn your car 180 degrees. Your rear wheels are not for show. They're for stability
@robervin9107
@robervin9107 11 ай бұрын
Well done brothers Kase and tommy.
@OrganicWheat
@OrganicWheat 11 ай бұрын
Ive been subscribed to this channel for a while and seen them test winter tires but never heard them talk about the brand nokian tires and their studded tires
@TFLcar
@TFLcar 11 ай бұрын
I don’t prefer studded tires, so I don’t feel the need to promote them. I find them to typically be loud and very hard on road surfaces. So hard in fact they are banned in several states. -Tommy
@ReformedBrant
@ReformedBrant 11 ай бұрын
It’d still be an interesting comparison rather than doing the same tests you’ve done before. Is the show just about Tommy’s preferences? Maybe TFL stands for Tommy feels like…
@Arkus0007
@Arkus0007 11 ай бұрын
@@ReformedBrantI love my Nokians on my LR.
@blueman5924
@blueman5924 11 ай бұрын
@@TFLcarEven here in BC, they are not supposed to be used all year, but it amazes me how many people get away with it. Any cop can hear them coming.😂 Nice reviews. 🤙
@davivadediablo
@davivadediablo 11 ай бұрын
Its all well and good doing these rests in an AWD with an automatic box but i run a FWD manual box
@andrewmcmillan8110
@andrewmcmillan8110 11 ай бұрын
Do some tests with Nokian studded Hakkepalitta!!
@truthflatearth
@truthflatearth 11 ай бұрын
Proper tire test with studded tires
@postaldaytrader
@postaldaytrader 11 ай бұрын
Would love to see how the Michelin Cross Climate compares to snow tires.
@terrencejones9817
@terrencejones9817 11 ай бұрын
Ok TFL, you're getting called out for a rigged test. The toyo GSI-5 hasn't been in production for 3 years! Either you've got 3 year worn GSI-5s ,or somonea dead stock thats been sitting around a warehouse getting hard for 3 years. Either way the GSI-6 replaced the 5 in 2020. Funny that the snow socks performed so well, and they sponsor the video....
@gregferris9378
@gregferris9378 11 ай бұрын
I wish you would have had a set of the all weather tires like you tested a while back.
@ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation
@ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation 11 ай бұрын
TOYO AT R the BEST All of my Vehicles have [ Open Country A/T III ] Its a must when Traveling over the Rocky Mountains .
@etc-and-more
@etc-and-more 11 ай бұрын
I wasn't crazy about the Toyo Open Country A/T III in snow/ice. I've had much better results with Blizzaks and Hakkas. But I'm on the east coast and our snow is different from the Rockies.
@matbasterson2128
@matbasterson2128 11 ай бұрын
You were using a Toyo winter tire. The Toyo AT 3 is 3 peak snow rated. It would be interesting to see where it falls compared to the winter tire and the all- season tires.
@AlwaysWildCS
@AlwaysWildCS 11 ай бұрын
Hi! You have viewers from outside US. Could you please provide temperatures and other measures in both, "USA systems" and the Celcius & metric system?
@The_Wandering_Couple
@The_Wandering_Couple 11 ай бұрын
The socks did amazing on our wrx when our vehicle wasn’t able to move around on its own lol. Only needed them once tho
@mikerinck8523
@mikerinck8523 11 ай бұрын
I’ll stick with dedicated snow tires. No speed limit and I don’t have to put myself at risk by stopping and getting outside of the car where I can be run into.
@MontanaWild78
@MontanaWild78 11 ай бұрын
Studded tires are a better option than all of the ones you tested for winter in the mountains and here in Montana it is what most people use.
@ayboss44
@ayboss44 11 ай бұрын
Studded tires are ILLEGAL!
@teyoung304
@teyoung304 11 ай бұрын
@@ayboss44 Where? In WA and OR its just illegal to run them when it isnt winter.
@j.davenport6065
@j.davenport6065 10 ай бұрын
Not necessarily… the benefits of studs are only for speeds less than 30 mph anything over 30 the decrease in contact patch actually starts to hurt you. Studs can be defeated by better tire compounds. The snow tire in this video actually defeated a studded Michelin x ice in a brake test on a sheet of ice. How?? Tiny walnut shells in the compound. I have a set and they’re noticeably better than the Nokia Nordmans studded.
@montechie
@montechie 11 ай бұрын
This was great! Thank you for doing reviews like this. It would be awesome to do the same setup once you get some icier conditions. Really surprised how poorly the cables did in packed snow.
@rossmartens
@rossmartens 10 ай бұрын
Those snow socks seem like they would be great for city winter driving
@nephrodoc4120
@nephrodoc4120 11 ай бұрын
Another great video. A follow up video testing the durability of the snow socks and add the Michelin CrossClimate 2 in the testing would be great.
@davehughes6501
@davehughes6501 11 ай бұрын
The cross climate would probably out perform the winter tyre they chose for this test.
@paultruesdale7680
@paultruesdale7680 8 ай бұрын
Best video of a winter traction product hands down. Going to be ordering a set for both of my cars Superb presentation TFL car.
@aliciabartezaghi6963
@aliciabartezaghi6963 8 ай бұрын
Check customers reviews on durability. Very disappointing.
@paultruesdale7680
@paultruesdale7680 8 ай бұрын
Will do thank you
@abqcrutch
@abqcrutch 11 ай бұрын
Wait wait wait. Tommy mentioned his fiance. Congratulations Tommy!
@bjorngve
@bjorngve 10 ай бұрын
In Sweden we use max dubbed winter tyres. I wonder what the dubb do to the snow socks. I guess they are good for single time use. Also the snow chains was no real terrain chains as we call it in military use. Those was spring loaded cables. A real chain can dig down to the gravel. And gravel get you grip. Also finger gloves is for the summer. You need winter clothes for real winter. Today we have -33 C.
@popescugigimarius7455
@popescugigimarius7455 2 ай бұрын
Good job , thank you for making my decision more eazy!🎉❤
@manwithnoname734
@manwithnoname734 10 ай бұрын
I used to own a hotshot rig, Ram 3500 HO dually with a 35' Diamond C fmax 212. I had socks and am a true believer! I once hauled a portable conex shower unit weighing 15k into a mine in ID on a 100+ mile round trip snow covered single lane mountain pass that required an escort vehicle and radios to stay in close contact with the whole fleet. When I pulled out my socks all the truckers made fun of me thinking I was nuts but I had them on in 5 min when it took everyone else 20-30 min. When I got into the mine I got made fun of even more by the miners but by the time we were escorted back out I turned everyone into believers because I had zero issues what so ever. Even the escort driver said he was going to order some that night when he got home. They work well, really well, are very easy to use, and won't tear up your vehicle if they do come loose. And no I'm not a rep haha
@jakespohnholz8715
@jakespohnholz8715 11 ай бұрын
I live in alaska good snow tires are everything. Hak 10's forever
@mikejames7013
@mikejames7013 11 ай бұрын
Snow socks like chains are a temporary install unlike dedicated snow tires. I live in Maine and run dedicated snow tires. Nokian Studded Hapakkalita (spelling) 9. Best sniw tires I've ever owned. I'm assuming you are running the Pilot in the normal traction position as opposed to the "snow" position. I drive a 2017 Honda Pilot awd.
@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985
@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985 11 ай бұрын
The road to our local ski mountain requires 4x4 or chains at times. Seems that for this use, the socks would be an excellent solution!
@Flyit37075
@Flyit37075 10 ай бұрын
what is safe top speed ? I live in Tennessee, we have short snow ice seasons, and black ice frequently in those periods of snow. So I would see a mix of cleared main roads and a lot of neighborhood travel that is still covered with snow and ice. I think the snow sock is going to be the best choice.
@NameNaameNameeNaamee
@NameNaameNameeNaamee 10 ай бұрын
Would be worth mentioning that these All Season Tires are American style ones. European All Season Tires (sometimes called "All Weather Tires" for easier distiction) are a totally different beast. While American ASTs are basically summer tires with a somewhat more aggresive tread on them, European ASTs are basically winter tires that are upgraded to perform good in summer as well. They are not cheap by any means, but the best of them are a pretty awesome feats of modern tire engineering. If you take the (European!) Michelin Cross Climate SUV 2 for example, they outperform some winter tires AND summer tires at the same time, while still lasting over 30000mi.
@GiveMeYoSammich
@GiveMeYoSammich 10 ай бұрын
After spending basically 1000 dollars on wheels and tires for the winter you gotta ask yourself if its worth it, imo if you're in a state that has 2 or more months of snow than sure but if you only get snow maybe only once or twice a year I would just go with the sock
@jada2041
@jada2041 11 ай бұрын
This felt like a commercial for the snow socks lol. But hey i just ordered a pair so great job tfl
@cyclesingsleep
@cyclesingsleep 10 ай бұрын
...wonder if the snow socks would work less well over the all-seasons. ...less grippy, cold rubber maybe not transfer grip as well to the socks?
@cup_and_cone
@cup_and_cone 11 ай бұрын
Can't wait to use those snow socks in Florida this winter.
@bigdog-dg9xk
@bigdog-dg9xk 11 ай бұрын
Great testing, however, using the cables on the snow tires should improve the performance of them ( even if they diminish the performance of the snow tire by itself) . Actual chains should bite better. Then there is to remember that all this testing is on nice hard pack. Out if several inches of fresh or esp in several inches in driven snow would be awesome additional testing, and sure there would be larger gaps in performance.
@Jesse.George
@Jesse.George 9 ай бұрын
Bridgestone Blizzaks are always my go to
@jakecease
@jakecease 11 ай бұрын
Now see how fast you can go before the socks destroy themselves. For science
@ErikB750
@ErikB750 11 ай бұрын
26.5 mph 🤣😉
@jakecease
@jakecease 11 ай бұрын
@@ErikB750 solid possibility
@oliviermorneau2819
@oliviermorneau2819 9 ай бұрын
I'd be curious to see you guys do the same tests on ice, maybe adding studded tires to the test
@ernestsalazar8026
@ernestsalazar8026 10 ай бұрын
As someone who drives a 16 ton truck in deep snow conditions no way hell would the snow socks even stay on more less help to get unstuck. I use heavy duty snow chains with cleats. The are a pain putting on but the truck becomes a tank afterwards
@OliG2
@OliG2 11 ай бұрын
It would have been nice to add a real all-weather tire, like the Michelin Cross Climate, otherwise very good test ! Now we want a redo but on polished ice like we get at stop signs.
@scotttan6377
@scotttan6377 11 ай бұрын
My goto are the real chains and not the cable chains shown in this demo . Cable chains don't grip hard enough in snow and ice and steeper hills . Additionally , near the end of the snow season , I've seen too many cable chains on the interstate. Luckily , my state allows studded tires since black ice is more of an issue than fluffy snow.
@IKhanNot
@IKhanNot 11 ай бұрын
I wish more people would use winter tires when living in a climate where it gets cold and snowy. I was rear ended by someone during a snowstorm and he had full on summer tires on his vehicle. Between getting charged by police, insurance finding him at fault and me successfully suing him for my injuries and time off work along with the value of my car being diminished and him getting fired from his job (I reported him) I bet he wished he spent the $1200 on a winter tire package.
@danpayan9468
@danpayan9468 10 ай бұрын
Try all trac self tightening chains easy to install no rubber band loops
@marc31415
@marc31415 11 ай бұрын
try the snow socks on top of less flexable all season tires.
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