Behind the Scenes: It’s Hard to Go Wrong By Upgrading Your Ride To A More Aggressive Tire!

[@urbanturbin4375]

Anytime I need car info, I type in TFL first and you have never let me down. Great job team!

[@northerntoyota7584]

Tommy, you're right. Width in mm then aspect ratio as a percentage of the width

[@johnmarklujan]

Yes the HD package is what we have and it did come with a full size spare and my 275 fits underneath it

[@oot1960]

Great Video, loved my LR3 it was so awesome. A word of warning about this size tyre. On the drivers side (US) there is a wiring loom attached to the side of the chassis rail. On full left lock the tyre can hit and damage the loom. Easy fix move it up on top of the chassis at this point.

[@MrBillsfishin]

Looks significantly better with the mud tires on it but then most offroad type vehicles do. Worth a little more noise for the huge gain in offroad traction and the peace of mind they provide on the trail .

[@davidmscott4409]

So glad your doing an LR3! We love ours! Can’t wait to see the cross country trip!

[@Toyokunari]

Eagerly waiting for TFL to drive the new Defender.

[@kenzotristen7435]

I know it is kind of randomly asking but does anybody know of a good site to watch new tv shows online?

[@camdenmayson3758]

@Kenzo Tristen Flixportal =)

[@kenzotristen7435]

@Camden Mayson Thank you, I signed up and it seems to work =) I appreciate it!

[@camdenmayson3758]

@Kenzo Tristen No problem :)

[@jrallison4]

I’m with you guys! Last 2 times I went out in my LR3, the first time the Toyota didn’t finish the trail and the second time the Jeep didn’t make it. I went home in comfort!

[@vernonbennettiii3646]

You guys need to check where the air suspension hoses are located and the compressor. The WK2 Jeep Grand Cherokee has them directly in front of the front passenger wheel well liner, behind the flimsy wheel well liner. You burn through the flinsy wheel well liner with a larger tire in the Jeep, and you risk cutting into the air suspension tube which rests very close/up against the inside front wheel well liner. Cut into the air suspension line and the vehicle will soon rest on its bump stops. At that point you'll need to flat bed it to a garage to avoid doing permanent/expensive damage to the air suspension system. I have experienced this first hand, off road. Fortunately I got the vehicle back to pavement before it settled onto the bump stops and had to be flat bedded to the nearest qualified mechanic. I now run a 1/2 inch diameter smaller Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs (32") and for good measure I have pulled the air suspension hose away from it's factory resting spot, which was up against the front passenger side wheel well liner, moving it further forward towards the front bumper and after-market lower front skid plates. So far, so good!

[@jamest5149]

The GAP iID tool is awesome, from live data, fault code reader and clearer, service settings and CCF option coder. The support from GAP technically and customer / product support is awesome, they stand behind their product. Cannot recommend highly enough if you have a LR vehicle 👍

[@mikebell2750]

More aggressive tires always look good in my opinion, hopefully these are going to be the right choice to get your rig where it needs to go off-road. If you can find the money for it a winch might be another great accessory for this baby.

[@IowaLR4]

@TFLnow agreed that IID tool is required, but if you love EAS you should get an XLifter. Get rid of the lift rods and use XLifter, it lets you level the vehicle 4.5 degrees of tilt/roll. If you sleep in/on it, its a must have.

[@peaceandrelaxationwithgodscrea]

Super excited about your new series

[@coryernewein]

Tommy is right about tire size and you Roman are correct about how it looks...that thing looks safari ready now🤠

[@DirtE30]

Still putting out the best content on YT!

[@MP_-ek8ij]

Great risk to take on the tires. Great video as always! Land Rover looks more rugged now

[@mikeb53]

That's the beauty of those IID tools... you don't need lift rods with them. You can add and remove your "lift kit" at the touch of a button.

[@dirtsailoroff-road5580]

I have a 2016 ram rebel with the air suspension. I'm currently at 145k miles and my air suspension works just like new.

[@nickrobertshaw9692]

I wondered how long untill you got a GAP tool, one of the best accessories you can get for a Disco 3/4. I had Nexen Roadians on my old D1 and they worked very well, i recently picked up a spare set of the same rims to add mud tyres to and paint black for my D3.

[@takiman1]

Can’t go wrong with new shoes. I would actually consider trim away some material on the front fender. Top 5 channel on KZbin.

[@Overlandjon]

You guys should look into Lucky8. They are running 35s on their lr3. You can get johnson rods to keep the off road height and many other mods from them.

[@Maximumwarp]

HD package adds full size spare and the rear locker

[@jaycrane761]

Tommy got it right. But most of the time if you are in a articulation it’s going to rub. So when you transfer weight to the front and it compress your suspension

[@ruimachado8560]

excited for the new series "No Pavement Needed"

[@karna-bhati]

this is my dream vehicle !

[@RJ-hi6qm]

LR3 is the most reliable SUV in the used car Market.. love it more then my LR4 LUX.

[@rlaracue]

I have those in 35s on my JLU Rubicon. Love them. Little noisy but its a MT.

[@HoosierDaddy_]

Nice looking tires! Now get out on the trails and test em!

[@hunterevans6909]

I have 275/70r18s on my lr4 and they don’t rub too much with the frame horns trimmed off

[@dadventuretv2538]

Great vid. I have a 2016 LR4 with the HD package. And man if you think it’s capable as is, the HD package just adds a whole nother level of capability. Yes, it has a full size spare. I put Nitto Ridge Grapplers in 265/50/R20 and it wont fit underneath, which is fine cause it shouldn’t be there anyway but does fit in boot fine. Voyager makes a rear bumper Mount wheel carrier but it is $$. I have the 2 in Johnson lift rods also and am getting put on this month 18 in Compomotive Wheels (smallest that will fit over brakes which I need for towing) and going either 285/60 or 265/65. Where did you get the diagnostic tool and how much was it? That is my last piece I need. My Land Rover has been more reliable than my wife’s Volvo or my buddies Wrangler. So... Here’s a vid of some typical east coast Appalachian offroading. Also hit the beach with it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2PEfaOnoZmGjq8

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Might want to vent the hood. Helps keep your underhood Temps under control. Also a larger radiator is nice on these.

[@tedll75]

So when do you guys leave for the cross country trip? And how long are you giving yourselves for the trip?

[@Tony-hf9mv]

Just bought a grand Cherokee Trailhawk because of the air suspension. So much easier on my aging arthritic a$$. Thank you for the info. Really hope they make one of these for Jeeps. Would be great to add to the OH$#ut bag

[@edinreviews]

Running KM2s on my Freelander, went down to 16” rims (from 17”) and went from 55 profile to 75. Looks great, but they are a tight fit in the arches😬 Plus they are so loud I can’t hear my wife complaining complaining about the wind noise from the soft top 😜🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 It’s officially louder than my D2 on ATs 🤔😳

[@theldaniel170]

Damn dude thats brave. I only have 245/75/16's on my Disco 2. Before, I had a set of 265 km2's

[@edinreviews]

Dan A. I have 235/85 16 General Grabber AT2s on my D2 when I go off road- they’re the correct size for a Defender but neat in the arches on my D2. For normal use I run standard 235/70 16s, currently Michelin Latitude Cross which is a good road tyre.

[@todontblink]

I just got some nitto ridge grapplers 275/55/20 (32s) for my 06 sport and have rubbing issues on the upper control arm when the suspension is at full droop due to the aggressive sidewalls kinda like those nexen. I have some hub centric 30mm spacers on the way to hopefully cure this. your lr3 looks great!

[@LukeEdward]

The first number is width - CARCASS width. Not tread width. The way the tire is manufactured can make the tread width vary greatly. That is why when you get into those super close situations, you really need to look at the manufacturer’s specs. A 255 tire is, for all intents and purposes, 10” wide. But the width of the tread can be 2”-3” difference. Also, the aspect ratio - the second number - is the percentage of carcass width. But this number does not mean it’s the tire’s true height. Your tread depth can affect your tire height, too. If you have a meaty off road tire with 27/32” of tread depth, versus a “normal” tire’s 11/32” of tread depth, that’s a 1”(!) difference in diameter just because of tread. With those tight clearances, I would be willing to bet that another manufacturer’s metric sizing of a true, chunky mud terrain would not clear.

[@joeymccullough2716]

Yes, Tommy-that’s called the aspect ratio

[@mikebutler8043]

Got these tires on my 2020 F250 Offroad they work perfectly. BUT lots of weights to balance tires and will be noisy but who cares about noise. Right? Size I have are 12 ply too that’s a plus

[@MeliorIlle]

Awesome tires! Love the teeth indentions.

[@ripfletching]

I love your videos. Thanks for all the hard work. Now my beef please start back showing more Ford videos!!!!! I start every morning with you guys and I send my customers to your Channel for education about vehicles that they’re towing with as I am in the Towing business but lately because you guys are about it forward we see a lot of negativity and I understand but for us out in Radioland we’re not part of that it did not offend us and we would like to still continue receiving information about the Ford vehicles thank you

[@silverslvr5185]

Don’t worry, some people get the names Range Rover and Land Cruiser mixed up. We won’t rough up to much when have to replace the Rover with your Gladiator.

[@ProudPapaKY]

How have the Nexen MTX tires held up since you had them installed? Thank you!

[@v12mercedes-benz72]

My touareg use 275 65 18 absolutely no rub at all, i am planning to get 33" on it.

[@yorkchris10]

There's probably a standard for interférence. Sounded a bit like Leno's Garage.

[@joshuascharfenberg7472]

Tommy is right

[@Moparornocar74]

I've owned Jaguars and Land Rovers for quite a while now and have had nothing but great reliability from them

[@loganholmberg2295]

You guys are just using for offroad though. Do you think it would be as reliable if you dailiied it too?

[@javierillom]

I just bought an old 4x4, a korando 2.3 td 2002 and I have to change the tires and I was seeing some nexen at tires, are they recommended?

[@jamesray3920]

Did you know you can raise your land rover higher than offload mode called super extended mode an additional 4 inches higher than off road mode ( oxmanagain channel demonstrate how to do it in super extended mode )

[@SkywhiteChannel]

hd package did contain full size spare. 265/65/18 will fit deflated. not sure about 275/65.

[@johnmarklujan]

I have 275 65 18 on my Land Rover lr3 and in the passenger rear you will rub when you're off roading you will also tear up the wheel well which will expose wires and pipe I am working on a solution myself to put a garden there for it School driver we also have a 3in spring conversion kit Lyft is the off-roading when you rub

[@jason7231]

This is going to be rubbing like crazy.

[@johnmarklujan]

@@jason7231 I am going to be putting a light tin in the wheel well and hope that helps

[@jrubino1261]

Will that diagnostic tool work for the 2012 LR4. Tkx

[@SimonStrother]

My touareg fits 275/65/18 with no rubbing at all even at full lock.

[@loganholmberg2295]

Yeah if you guys are going to long distance it a new alternator/battery on a vehicle of that vintage and miles is probably a VERY goos idea. Also since your going as a group off roading with an an bag system that old isn't as much of a prob IMO cause if something goes wrong you have 2 other vehicles you can rescue with. That being said I would sugest in investing in an airbag and CV joint or two as spare parts to take with you on the trail. I know you guys probably wouldn't chg a broken one on the trail but if something does go wrong theres I doubt a local shop is just going to have easy access to Landrover parts. Or do you not see that as a problem? In my exp the parts that always seem to go go bad on the trail no matter what vehicle: tires, batteries, alternators, cv joints and MAYBE if your extremly unlucky drive shafts and dif locks. Personally I don't carry a spare CV cause I don't have the skills to repair on in the field but I'm driving a GMC seirra so I don't think there is much of a problem in North America finding spare parts for it anywhere. If I was going Overland and mudding though (not a good idea for me anymore unfortunatly) I would carry an extra alternator if you don't have a fairly new one on a rig. Its usually easy to replace and Mud and long distances are good ways to kill them. lol. That being said what are your plans for parts failures in the field? Next time I go overlanding I'm thinking of carrying a device that has satelite functionality because of this. I don't want to invest in a sat phone but a gps device with satphone texting is something on my radar for emergencies.

[@thesanctuary225]

Yesterday, I bought a land rover LR3. Now, what should I do?

[@bonnieinthespirit6373]

What’s are the top ? Of lr3 ??

[@HeathStallcup]

Im curious fellas, why not equip the VW as a recovery vehicle? From the videos I've seen, Tommy loves that thing and we're always impressed by its capabilities. Is the LR3 more comfortable or more capable than the VW?

[@erickisel8668]

Why isn’t the Trail Boss the support vehicle for the trip?

[@RichardVac]

You should also take the ML320

[@FernandoSchulman]

My LR4 came with 19” wheels and I still have to figure out where or how to buy 18”. Btw I live in 🇧🇷 Brazil. If you have any suggestions please do so. Great video!

[@gotaytaygo1]

Hey Fernando! Speaking from experience, a skilled machinist & machine shop should be able to machine-away some of the metal on the LR4’s brake calipers to allow 18” wheels to fit. The other option: install LR3 caliper/rotors on your LR4. Cheers! 🤙🏻

[@Venthile]

What have you done on the LR3 in terms of maintenance? (Bushings?)

[@TFLnow]

We changed the oil, put on new rear brakes and replaced a faulty thermostat. That’s all we’ve had to do in one year of ownership.

[@morrisbutrafili987]

Are newer range rovers more reliable then the old ones?

[@georgehoy5144]

Korean tires? You just did a review on the crummy tires on the Mini and the value of purchasing quality tires.

[@mechmat12345]

@C-Bomb Derp. "Buy once, cry once" doesn't apply to consumable parts like tires.

[@damilolaakanni]

I have a question. How do tyre choices affect MPGs?

[@jason7231]

Weight and size

[@jamesbeaman6337]

Different trad patterns have different rolling resistance which can affect MPGs slightly. Most MPG effects though are wind resistance related though.

[@errhka]

Heavier tires need more energy to start rolling and the increase in height will reduce your air resistance

[@jamesbeaman6337]

@@errhka on the contrary, the increase in tire height will increase the frontal area (more air resistance) and also increase the ground clearance which typically also increases the air resistance.

[@twstrchasr]

So if they had rubbed badly would the tire shop have taken them back ?

[@mechmat12345]

Depends on the tire shop. Most (if not all) will test mount and check for rubbing. Discount Tires claims a 30 day return policy under most circumstances. According to their commercial, you can chuck them right through the front window ;-)

[@badgerpa9]

If you listen he talked right to manufacture for the tires, so the tire store was mounting the new tires for them.

[@harshavk1096]

please post more on 08 Land cruise content !!!!

[@TFLnow]

Here you go; kzbin.info/www/bejne/eV6tgKmkgZ2tfZY

[@harshavk1096]

TFLnow sad 😔 to see LC out

[@WW-wf8tu]

It might not be rubbing sitting there, but once you load a couple people, gear and start bouncing down poorly maintained roads, speed bumps etc., you might find you will be riding in a higher ride mode more than normal mode. And that is not even off the pavement. Very aggressive tread there. Curious about the life they will provide you.

[@bobbymulwee7641]

Ditch the air for coil overs for reliability. Worrying about small details will drive you insane.

[@ZacharySolomon0429]

Hey tommy, yes you're correct the hd package came with a full size spare although the bigger tire might not fit in the spare spot. Also, on your 4.4l make sure you replace the plastic bleeder T above the throttle body, it will break, they do all the time. You can replace it by making your own out of metal pipe fittings from a hardware store, bronze/brass fittings would be best to use. norcalrovers.org/forum/index.php?/topic/2872-lr34-owners-beware-of-the-dreaded-coolant-bleeder-valve/ Also here's a good website for stuff on your land rover. Btw they sell the trans conversion kit cheaper than rover parts and fcpeuro. They also have a pretty nice swing away spare tire bumper I've been debating on getting. lucky8llc.com/

[@j.r.arnolli7494]

When You want to calculate what tire-size compares with the 'old' ones, use, www.wheel-size.com/calc , You can change everything You want and still be able to compare

[@jason7231]

Just wait until you flex at all. That is going to be rub city.

[@Michael_ryan91]

Thats the issue with the air suspension, in offroad mode it really doesnt flex.

[@jason7231]

@@Michael_ryan91 so then in town, turning over a speedbump they rub, lol. I think they will have issues, curious to see.

[@oot1960]

Another item you may not know of is LLAMS, which is an electronic height adjuster for LR3/4 and RR sport. It gives you 2 additional height choices on top of the standard system. llams.com.au/

[@Nate_K111]

Dinosaur claws ... perfect for all those nine year old boys out there.

[@mechmat12345]

I'm sure what you meant to say is that these would be perfect tires for a Ford Raptor.

[@JuanAlvarez-pp1if]

And where can I see the ford truck revealing

[@Kingcold2002]

I would love to buy y’all Land Rover

[@knightwing4]

I’d want it too. You guys fix them up pretty good. How much longer before you sell it.

[@knightwing4]

I don’t understand why the air suspension in cars always break and they’re so expensive to fix. I’m a truck driver and they don’t go out nearly that much in trucks. I’ve only had it happen once in a tractor and once in a trailer and they were both very old. The tractor had over 800,000 miles when it happened and an airbag on a truck is cheaper than one for a car. Go figure.

[@nathankestin1922]

Off road video coming??

[@remgu2000]

You should have kept this one. The new one looks cool but I don't know if it'll stay alive long enough or you all to make some videos.

[@RegularGuy76]

Dammmmm all does numbers made my head hurt.........

[@john105810]

I have the same tire size on my LR3....

[@polarbear4686]

Are they going to send Nathan some tires?

[@JRSmith-yf7nk]

Not sure about Nexen, but no brand is better than the free type. BFG’s for my money

[@brianmay6719]

Nexen has been around for like 60 years. Only tire company without a single recall lol

[@aruekca18det]

Please do de vídeo about reliability. There are some on sale around. A 2000 Discovery V8 2,600usd... Some VW Tuareg V8 4,000 that looks good. But I really don't know. Toyotas & Jeeps are just to expensive here but in the long shot then the Europeans might be a problem.

[@JURASSICEDITS09]

Air suspension Fails cause pepole dont maintain em properly that doubley true in cold Cliemets. Got to keep water out of the air System . If you properly take care of it they do just fine. Cant just let em go then Complain when it goes out. Drove truck for years the only Bad air suspension are the ones not Maintained.

[@TFLnow]

That’s true but that’s also true about everything in a car.

[@jamesray3920]

I know you are going to buy Johnson rods 2 1/2 inch lift I just bought a 2007 land rover hse I plan to do this , you speak of noise from mickey Thompson I own mtz on my jeep lj rubicon unlimited and baja boss mickey Thompson I think they ride quite

[@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080]

I wouldn't do the "reliability video" until after the trip. You might jinx your self!

[@SDav21]

I dont understand the thing about air suspension. Doesn't shocks need replacing at about 100,000 miles too? Yes shocks are cheaper but then they don't ride and have the variability of air suspension. I think the industry is not fair to exoect air suspension to last forever. And yes, it will be expensive to fix but that's what must happen when you want the nicest ride quality and ability.

[@freddieflanders]

It’s nice to see someone else that thinks land rovers are reliable.

[@GIGABACHI]

Denial: Reaction to a painful truth. 🤣

[@davidryde6296]

A Wilco tire carrier would sort your spare tire issue, and some have fuel and recovery gear storage.

[@StrongLeoMale]

Why nick pick for Reliability, when other manufacturers are based on Reliability...ie Toyota and Honda. LandRovers, Jaguar, and Audi are Money Pits.

[@rotorwind177]

That dinosaur claw side is super ugly IMO

[@JuanAlvarez-pp1if]

What time do they reveal the new ford truck ?

[@RoverRacer913]

I've always said if you're tires don't rub a smidge you don't have the right tire 😉

[@thesanctuary225]

Air suspension is the weakest part of Land Rover. It could fail. Once it fails, we have to replace it. Air suspension replace cost is unrealistically expensive. I bought a used Land Rover because it is not a air suspension. It is a spring suspension. Former owner have already replaced air suspension to spring suspension. That's why I bought this used car. Because I have no money to replace expensive air suspension if it fails.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Now go beat it up...

[@jamesm568]

LT tires are going to wear that suspension out even more due to the excessive weight of the tires.

[@brentmaxey20100]

It’s been PROVEN that those plug in units do ZERO for your car & can actually ruin it. My friend used one of these & it caused a crash & insurance wouldn’t cover it, because they found the unit in the vehicle. So on a 2019 Range Rover Sport he had a bill of over $20,000.00. These units aren’t covered on insurance, on luxury vehicles. At least in Illinois

[@nickrobertshaw9692]

You talking about the GAP OBD tool ?, it doesnt do anything apart from read and clear codes and alter some car settings. Does not change engine paramenters and isnt designed to be left plugged in.

[@louispinnegar602]

👍🇬🇧😍

[@bmo2954]

Stop the "hidden" publicity please (tyres, devices, etc..). I am a big fan of TFL, but lately you are trying to sell a lot on your videos.

[@grahameroberts8109]

Would you please shut up about Land Rovers being unreliable!! You’ve bagged them since day one. 👎🏻😡😤🤬😠😖