Ford Ranger Raptor vs. Rivian R1T vs. Razor Rocks: Which One's BETTER Off-Road?

[@reddirtdiesel5063]

Watching this on my break working at the rivian plant 😂

[@JFlogerzi]

I really hope we see a cheaper R2T please please......

[@juiceda6]

I'm watching 👀 this while I work 😆

[@treydrier3169]

@@juiceda6 He said he was "on my break". Read much?

[@chris-qo1nt]

When you guys bringing out the R3X?

[@nlken7175]

Not a Ford fan but RR is the best Truck this year.

[@jprock73]

Tommy, I have a Ranger Raptor and I went out to the garage to look for the 3 peak snow symbol after you said they were not from the factory. My RR has the 3 peak mountain symbol on the factory KO3’s.

[@husshardan3511]

“Only about 10.7 inches of ground clearance which could be better” But are totally happy with 8 inches in the Toyota Land Cruiser.

[@just4ivaylo92]

Land Cruiser wheelbase is smaller by 17 inches...

[@Jay-me7gw]

Id be extremely surprised if the RR has 10.7" of clearance at the rear diff. I think they are measuring from different points.

[@chandleredwards]

Or the previous praising the 4runner which only has nine and change.

[@ChrisWilliams-pu8pj]

That Raptor continues to impress. For my money, if I were looking at Tacoma or Raptor, would go with Raptor. I have been a hard core Toyota fan but not liking quality issues coming up, over-priced units and lack of features. Raptor nailed it!

[@mpeugeot]

The Bot game is strong today... The Ranger Raptor is the better value. The Rivian is pretty cool, but at nearly the cost of 2 Ranger Raptors, ummm no.

[@USUG0]

on the other hand, the real market competitor of that R1T would be the f150 raptorR that costs the same or more

[@ChristopherB2143]

@@USUG0 it does not compete with the raptor R all. It was never designed to do that, the Rivian it’s not a desert runner like the raptor.

[@Joemama_515]

@@USUG0you are comparing midsize truck to full size and probably most capable truck on the market lmao. Raptor R is worlds away from R1T

[@voxel999]

They are difference classes too. The Rivian tri motor does 0 to 60 in 2.9 seconds which is half the time of the RR and has air suspension. RR is most definitely the better value but I argue it’s also vastly better than the sibling $90-100K BRaptor that shares the same engine and has a budget interior.

[@USUG0]

@@Joemama_515 beaten pretty much in every performance aspect by the R1T, other than on a baja course. And very close on that as shown by edmunds video. They are both high performance, top end trucks

[@JB-101]

Seems like you guys are no longer showing the scrapes and bruises after these scrapes. I would be interested in seeing the bottom of those trucks.

[@y1outube]

Skid plates so doesn’t matter as much?

[@is6566]

Barely touched either truck.

[@georgev5766]

Both trucks are great. I own a Rivian gen 1 and it is great off-road. But I also had the f150 raptor as my second choice when I bought my Rivian. I would love to have that ranger raptor. For me the Rivian works perfect as I drive it on road 99% of the time. Get the one that works for you. Great video.

[@JahyMoonwalker]

Hopefully the electric Scouts compete well, and drive up the off-road EV segment

[@georgev5766]

@ I saw the TFL video on that and I will 100% trade my Rivian for the scout if it shows up like it was unveiled. Looks amazing.

[@ronc127]

So you could get a Ranger Raptor for fun and a Maverick Hybrid for daily driving for about the same price as the Rivin.

[@is6566]

And some cash leftover to buy an e-bike. I don’t think the Maverick hybrid is $50,000.

[@GA-wq8xq]

Or buy the $71k dual motor Rivian and have the same off road ability

[@benven2161]

The Ranger Raptor is awesome!

[@Jodywshelton]

a lot of the gen 1 complaints you had are fixed now with software updates! I had the same issues that I no longer have :)

[@blahx9]

I had to pause the video, go outside, in the cold, and verify my Ranger Raptor K03's do indeed have a triple peak rating.

[@srsg-wy8tr]

Yea you had to go check on your parking lot princess since you obviously dont even know what kind of tires you have

[@blahx9]

@@srsg-wy8tr aww jelly much?

[@Jonatan_SE]

Thanks for the post-Christmas videos, perfect way to wind down! I do think the Rivian is the nicest of the new electric trucks out there. Good design and quite capable. 👍

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

35" tires should be an option(for more $$$) on the Ranger Raptor. 1" extra lift and 35" tires would give you an extra 2" of clearance. 2" is a lot, at least that's what I tell the ladies...

[@technom3598]

35s are overrated. Everyone wants 35s .. but they are too large and heavy

[@technom3598]

Also 2 inches higher to try to get in.

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@technom3598 Not if you buy the right ones. Like the Colorado ZR2 and Bronco have. 53 lbs. I am running the same tires on my F150 and LX570 and the combined wheel/tire weight on the LX is 78 lbs. They are actually about 5 lbs lighter than the stock 32" tires and wheels were. Not every 35 is a load range E that weighs 75 lbs on its own.

[@wolfgang_h3t]

​@@technom3598 Nah, only if you're a pavement princess who's worried about MPGs or street performance

[@technom3598]

@@wolfgang_h3t well seeing that 97% of these will never be off road. The 3% that do will be on dirt roads and amount less than 1 percent will need that small bit of extra clearance. So ya. It's a waste for most. The less than 1% can just add the tires aftermarket.

[@RustyTreeMan]

I think we all prefer these off road tests. Great job, both trucks look great and did well. The Rivian spun front and rear tire @27:55 one after the other! I think if they did a four wheel steering on the Rivian as Tommy says it would be awesome. Just needs bigger tires too!

[@carlossilviotube]

Good eye man that rear did the same too. And it has 2 motors in the back

[@RealDKuz]

Mostly likely due to aggressive regen, and once tire looses traction, it springs back due to inertia.

[@Willibopper]

Been pretty stoked on my dual motor r1t. Engineer, Ophir, Imogene, are all easy in it. It's my daily, my sports car, my offroader, my overlander, and my construction rig all in one, and I can charge it up for a couple $ in my garage while I'm sleeping. It's not quite a Taycan GT, and it's not quite a lifted jeep on 40s but it does alright. Maybe one day after my drivetrain warranty ends I'll see if there are any aftermarket locking diffs I can get for it.

[@cleveland53015]

Can't wait for Scout SUV and truck reviews. My pre ordered can't come soon enough. Body on frame with lockers.

[@MustafaDane]

Scout will be sick! Rivian was still a mix of on and off road. Scout will be made mainly for off roading

[@HelicopterDad-u5b]

TFL is killing it this week..

[@tracygraham5379]

That opaque roof is still going to make the cab hotter than hell in the summer in places like Texas and Arizona.

[@tracygraham5379]

Not a fan of all the wheel spin. That would be disconcerting in a real world fear of getting stuck situation. The Ranger seems much more competent with less drama.

[@mcsike7264]

​@@tracygraham5379Bc rivian for some reason dont want to add real lockers to there vehicles

[@Joemama_515]

@@tracygraham5379tire tread adds to this as well

[@joweb1320]

Steel roofs are stronger and yes, cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter.

[@dennissmith7214]

@@mcsike7264Because as an electric vehicle they are more worried about hp🤨………this is the late 60’s all over again but with EV’s, they are all taughting and keep raising the hp numbers to ridiculous heights……….most people don’t need 8,9 or 1000hp on a daily or even ever!! 😒🤷🏽‍♂️

[@vernonbennettiii3646]

I regret "dissing" Nathan, but I really do prefer having Tommy and Andre do these types of videos. Great job, guys!

[@ericanderson1753]

You didn’t forget the compressor. It’s built into the R1T.

[@RealDKuz]

Its optional extra with Gen2 now, so it may or may not had one.

[@ericanderson1753]

@ I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure it is standard equipment with tri-motor.

[@RealDKuz]

@@ericanderson1753 oh yea you're right

[@GA-wq8xq]

@@RealDKuzit is standard on the tri

[@MustafaDane]

It also comes with the off road package

[@FreakyT333]

If you want to market a vehicle as off-road capable, I think you need to give it a locker, regardless of what type powertrain. It just works best.

[@is6566]

Yeah but purists are true believers. The Rivian management believes in electricity and software. They truly believe that those two things will solve every problem better than the old mechanically oriented school of thought would.

[@theichione1827]

When it comes to slow crawling, The issue for most current EVs is insufficient starting/stall torque. While lockers could be used to address this, as everyone knows that comes with deleterious effects on the drivetrain and driving dynamics in many situations. So a quad motor setup with *sufficient starting/stall torque* is the holy grail… the only vehicle currently available from a major brand that seems to accomplish this is the Mercedes-Benz G580, though this was done at the expense of increased complexity.

[@stevemiro731]

"I have perfect control I am controlling it right now" Clunk...Scrape!! Funny and another great video, thanks guys :)

[@mikefoehr235]

The Rivian is leaps and bounds nicer looking than the Cyber Truck. I even love that green of the Rivian. Nice truck but way too pricey. I am not sure that Rivian will avoid bankruptcy.

[@kabloosh699]

I think the tech and design will stay around. They just may get bought out by someone else.

[@jimjacobson4797]

Lots of Saudi money in Rivian so bankruptcy is questionable. I own a RR and to my eye the Rivian looks nicer. Certainly very "clean" looking, but looks are subjective. For what it is designed to be/do, the Raptor is the best value out there.

[@husshardan3511]

VW just dumped $$billions into Rivian a month ago.

[@treydrier3169]

No bankruptcy. VW just dumped $5,8 billion into Rivian. Eventually VW may eventually acquire them. Regardless VW wouldn't make such an investment thinking Rivian won't make it.

[@gilly3531]

5 billion from VW...plus boosted up by Amazon vans/business..plus they are about to have thier "Model 3 moment" with R2...and you goobers are STILL telling yourself that they are going bankrupt. 😂 That's rich. Real rich...

[@moneyparhar]

Rivian got more cameras than TD bank.

[@Miguelneyney]

I saw the Ranger Raptor in person up close and looks way cooler. Such a great performing truck!

[@3rdpig]

With Stellantis cutting prices on Ram trucks Ford will have to follow suit, but Rivian doesn't compete with ICE trucks so probably won't. So that $50k gap will probably get larger. And without EV mandates and big tax credits, I'm not sure if niche companies like Rivian will survive.

[@jake-ly]

R2 is where their saving grace will be. $50k for an offroad ready EV is an unmet market right now

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@jake-ly Thats because it likely wont be possible while still having a decent range. Even the lightning, built largely on the F150 platform and sharing many of its parts, isnt capable of getting down to 50k without incentives, rebates, and dealer discount.

[@aeabarquez]

Rivian is a jack of all trades and the master of being the safest large vehicle in the world (IIHS Top Safety Pick +). Which is a perfect vehicle for my family and lifestyle. It's great as a daily driver, drag racer, canyon carver, rally vehicle, sand dune carver, off road, snow driving, towing, family adventure vehicle, and the list goes on. Can't say that about the competition. Is it worth 100k? To me, absolutely. It's a VERY VERY short list of vehicles that meets the capability of a Rivian. You have to live with one to know.

[@ALMX5DP]

I mean I agree with that, but I also feel all those ways about my regular F-150. A Raptor variant or Rivian might be even more fun in some respects but I am perfectly content with how my regular pickup daily drives, carves corners (would like a limited slip diff perhaps), handles offroad shenanigans and tows etc.

[@electrikoptik]

Surprisingly the Rivian having fully independent suspension has more flex than the rear solid axle/IFS Ranger Raptor. Gen 1 Rivian scores 510 on a 20 degree RTI. Meanwhile the Ranger Raptor scores 443.

[@ALMX5DP]

Being the Rivian doesn’t have traditional swaybars that does make potential sense if the air suspension is adaptive. Does the Ranger have disconnectable swaybars at all?

[@carlossilviotube]

I was about to mention that but pretty sure many will not understand. It did look better for the ranger on the innitial rock but also rivian has a much larger wheelbase. Like 7 inches longer

[@Jay-me7gw]

Its not that surprising. The RR has front and rear sway bars without any form of disconnect.

[@BillThomas-c8z]

RR is really what I’d call as close to perfect as you can get in an off-road capable truck. Great HP, Good MPG, Comfortable and No stress as a Daily Driver! Hopefully, as you said Andre, Ford won’t jack up the price and ruin the Value!

[@northerntoyota7584]

I watched an interesting video showing the difference between oem ko3’s and ko3’s you buy from a tire shop. They are quite different. Be interesting to see a comparison.

[@surbahns]

Watching the front wheels go backwards to try to help stopping on the ice was unreal.

[@jake-ly]

I'm glad someone is finally taking one of these offroad. I have the same issue with my R1, there's no low end torque to crawl, it just kinda jerks forward. I'm glad this is fixed with their in house motors.

[@theichione1827]

Yeah 1st gen lacked the starting/stall torque to crawl, seems 2nd gen/in house motors are a bit better. Mercedes-Benz solved this on the G580 by having a two speed transmission on each motor.

[@theichione1827]

Aftermarket could probably address the issue on the 1st gens by creating bolt-on portal/gear reduction... which would make it virtually unstoppable but range would take a hit.

[@Rick-vg2pz]

I absolutely love TFL. Watching your videos makes me happy

[@USUG0]

Rivian should offer mechanical locks, at least as an option. Then, it would be unstoppable

[@Kevin-r3v5w]

That’s was interesting. Great video.

[@YuenanCao]

How does the software locker on Rivian compar to Cybertruck?

[@johnmeeboer8971]

when doing off road comparisons you could have the same driver for both. it would take out the way each person drives off road.

[@caifan444]

Another great video keep it up guys thanks TFL crew this Raptor Ranger guys one of the best featured long term vehicles your fleet has ever had, coming from a Toyota Boy 🤣

[@-Jethro-]

28:11 re that front driver side wheel going backwards: Remember it only has one front motor. So that was the passenger tire getting traction while the motor was resisting, causing the differential to spin the driver’s tire backwards on ice. It was not something the computer did on purpose. (It would be nice if the computer noticed this and applied a bit of braking)

[@carlossilviotube]

Interesting because the right rear did the same yet there is 2 motors in the back. With out a diferential. 🤔🤔

[@mikegreer9041]

I'd love to have a rivian, but getting a mortgage for a vehicle is just stupid. My last new jeep was 12 years old. Bought it with 118000 on it. Runs like new. Old jeep with the 3.7 had over 300000 miles. I'm in Michigan so i buy southern vehicles so body corrosion is my only concern.

[@Doughnutscream]

Love the RR videos

[@stevekniess3665]

I have the same tires as the Rivian, they are not great on slippery surfaces, good in deep snow nice on the highway. I have them on a 1500 Sierra. I bought them for less then $1000 out the door compared to 1600-$2000 for other all terrain tires. Seeing the tire spin on the Rivian doesn't surprise me. I miss the Michelin i had before the scorpion all terrain plus.but they look great with the raised white letters showing. Thank you Andre and Tommy.

[@jwood554]

Raptor all the way for me. BTW, Nice "Mission on Earth" MoonSwatch Tommy.

[@andrewcrane6020]

I love you two together, the laughter from the both of you is Infectious.

[@coloradomallcrawlers]

Tommy, you know better. Kelly Flats is not a 9 by anyone who wheels. What you guys did was a 5-6, and the optional chutes bump it up to a 7. This is my issue with OnX… it’s so inaccurate and inconsistent. Don’t y’all see how that can get someone in trouble?

[@Martin_from_SC]

Not sure if it's been said, but two electric motors with a locker on each axle is not the same as a traditional 4wd mechanically locked center diff and two lockers engaged. That makes all 4 tires turn at the same speed and works much better in articulating situations.

[@Pilot545]

Everybody complains that the RR doesn’t have rock rails. IT’S NOT MEANT FOR ROCK CRAWLING!! For Baja off-roading, you want those steps to prevent rocks and debris from hitting the body panels.

[@Jodywshelton]

don't forget the Rivian has a built in air compressor ;)

[@CJ-rk5eg]

It’s December 2024 and where’s the snow in Colorado??

[@zachlafond2652]

Its been in the 60Fs in Denver ..

[@CJ-rk5eg]

@ sounds like springtime

[@Slingerlander]

The front wheel could be going backwards because of its front differential, I've seen it happen on an old car going down a slippery hill

[@aussie2uGA]

The Rivian can spin an individual tire backwards when slip is detected?

[@RealDKuz]

No, probably due to regen and tire loosing traction resulting in a brief bounce back.

[@DarthDainese69]

We only get the Ranger Raptor and if I had the choice I'd take the 3.0L V6 over the 2.0L diesel

[@is6566]

Well we don’t get 2.0 L diesel anything. 😃

[@rxibot]

See Ford! Two motor rear locker is what Tommy just said. You've already got the setup with the lightning just make the angles better!

[@gordonchen9533]

At 30:29, the rear left tire rotates in reverse briefly.

[@rsdaarud]

2" lift on the RR with rock rails makes one Moab worthy!

[@blakegarner3719]

You guys need to do this comparison between the Ranger Raptor and regular ZR2. A lot of videos are between Raptor and Bison. Anyway...great video. I watch them all. Thanks and Happy New Year!

[@Mastr-Tech]

I would like to see the same person drive both trucks so we can hear how the driving experience differs. It would be helpful to know how the steering and throttle input compare.

[@2151abell]

Ranger Raptor for me personally... All day ! Working's man value in this day & Age...

[@frankg.5150]

good video

[@carlossilviotube]

Great video guys. I want to see more rivian comparison. Include an R1S. Also i have had the experience to play with some settings including the stability control and senn better results on vectoring than just the preset. There other people explaining this in videos as well. I think the quad motor may of done better if set properly

[@jguil4d]

I realize it’s not always dry out there, but you should bring some sidewalk chalk to mark those rocks.

[@georgejulien3286]

When Andre says “basically 33” is he referring to the fact that bfg is consistently an inch or more smaller than they claim?

[@tallll70]

i agree the Rivian control even looks better on video in compare the older, just not quiet good enough, if the vectoring power could come earlier and with some smoother control, idk how if they can make some just electronic management to get it smoother or if it has to be some sort of low range trans case

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

2 Rangers for the price of 1 Rivian. Ya, no...

[@0ttoman]

Rivian has an onboard compressor you could have used on the Ranger :D

[@xag3ntx]

Tommy looking like Casey Neistate 😂😎

[@frontier_etc]

At the Razor Rocks, is it still possible to not drive straight up onto the rocks, and to turn left staying close to the tree, right tires going onto the rocks at first and then off?

[@Cloud30000]

Here’s the thing about truck prices: anytime they sell more than they can make, they are losing money. Mfg’s are for-profit companies, not charities. If someone is willing to pay more than you, that is who they will sell to, even if you think it’s unfair. If a vehicle hasn’t sat on the lot unsold for at least a year, they are unlikely to budge on the price. If a model never stays on the lot for more than a month, they are probably going to add dealer markup until it does. Look for something that a dealer has sat on in the lot for over a year if you want to haggle for a better price.

[@thonvuth809]

Were in the best age of vehicle technology! Example diffrent takes on traction controle, lockers,cruise controles,power trains, TV screens, old school small rims,new school large rims (more side wall for 4x4 or large rim for performance and fuel economy), most importantly everything is reliable compared to carburetor.

[@bigdaddy3662]

Need to compare the quad motor

[@carlossilviotube]

And also they have not adjust the stability control which controls how little or much the tires spin before intervension. I will argue that would change the innitial rock climbing they did. I have adjusted and it made a big difference

[@JarradShaw]

I really love the ranger raptor.

[@joweb1320]

Mach-e Rally snow test, please.

[@RigiLiquid945]

It can tow 11000, but how far on the highway?

[@mcsike7264]

About 100miles are so that's why its made for short distance towing which is like 90% of toeing distance most ppl do

[@jeffdavis9822]

I wonder how an R1T in Dual Standard (which is far closer in price) would compare to the Ranger Raptor? Wouldn't that be a more meaningful comparison??

[@ManjaroBlack]

How is it so difficult to figure out the traction in a Rivian? Doesn’t each wheel have a sensor, so increase power to the wheel that’s spinning slowest?? Also it seems the gearing on the Rivian isn’t geared for crawling.

[@mariodesmo]

I've noticed that tire ratings(2 vs 3 peaks) are mentioned frequently on these off road comparisons. Three peak rated vs the older designs. I would like to see a comparison on those 3 peak tires! Three peak vs the older version of the same tire, with the same wheels, same size, same conditions/trail and same vehicle. That way you really are comparing as tires as best you can without other factors impacting the results. Again, as best you can, and not necessarily in lab conditions. Just how much better is a 3 peak tire in the same vehicle in the same conditions?

[@RCRitterFPV]

I really like these two rigs. the size is really attractive to me.. I think I really want a plug in hybrid though... Used Cayenne Hybrid or one of these two is kinda where I'm at..

[@dc9mm2]

Raptor kicks Rivians butt. Plus the whole bottom is battery on rivian. Is that protected at all? Dent a battery pay what\? 25 grand our more? A truck for off road with a glass roof?? Seems like bad idea.

[@jamesm7642]

Didn't TFL already do an off-road video with Rivian? I thought it showed EV's without lockers aren't as robust off-road as ICE vehicles with lockers.

[@TFLoffroad]

Last gen truck

[@christrarback9748]

Not sure if anyone said it but the Ko3 on the RR are a different version. There is a tire guy on YT that did a video comparison

[@Doughnutscream]

Link?

[@christrarback9748]

@Doughnutscream search for it ....

[@RicardoA1996]

Bots

[@MDillonEV]

It sure didn't look like max height on the Rivian.

[@dominicwilkerson]

Was there a reason not to air down?

[@dominicwilkerson]

Also the scorpions are trash.

[@tfcooks]

For that money, the Rivian should be on portals

[@gabrielback5615]

For that money its going to stay on the dealer lot.

[@scottmartin5093]

​@@gabrielback5615if it wasn't for VW rivian would be bankrupt

[@Powersproductions130]

It’s an electric truck with a flat floor, it doesn’t need portals.

[@DampNoodles]

Bro what?? Nothing at this price point has portal axles... A 4x4² is like 500k.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

Very very few and only one car manufacturer actually has ever put portal axles on vehicles and it's Mercedes Benz

[@rk-xv4km]

We could drive the Ford Ranger Raptor for ten years, then convert it to an Electric Vehicle (EV), and still save money! Or in ten years sell it to buy a Ford EV Raptor. Also with a Raptor we'll have more fun, have less depreciation, save on insurance, and have a factory warranty sold by Granger Motors!!!!!!!!❤

[@johnd5805]

$58,000 + tax tle lce = 🤪 Great video

[@user-cg7cc7zj3e]

I am surprised Rivian is still around honestly. But it's a no brainer. For weight, trail long term fueling and refueling, buying cost. The gas truck, even though i don't like ford is the clear and only option.

[@jlaw1901]

They just had a huge 5 billion dollar deal with Volkswagen. I think they’ll stick around. If they do under they’ll be survived in the Scout’s software

[@jake-ly]

Folks don't really buy them just for offroad. You get more of a full package with the Rivian; its a crazy fast sports car that can go offroad, and haul WAY more than ICE cars with the frunk and gear tunnel

[@user-cg7cc7zj3e]

@jake-ly yeah, tell me you own one without telling me you own one. Just about everyone those points has been debunked. This is also an off road test...sooo. happy trails

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@user-cg7cc7zj3e What has been debunked? That its fast? That it can go offroad? Or that it can haul a lot with its frunk? You seem a bit bitter.

[@user-cg7cc7zj3e]

@@Jay-me7gw pffff hahaha, hahahaha

[@stuzor666]

Just started watching but from everything I have hard you can't get those raptors without 10k of dealer markups so would be nice to mention that

[@mabelpup8502]

I don’t understand this comparison nor your channels fascination with EV.

[@HiddenOne22]

Can we get more colorado zr2 content as well?

[@anton_grahn]

Dual motor Cybertruck with it’s dual lockers feels like the sweet spot for electric offroading right now

[@LukeEdward]

First (REAL) comment 27:58 that doesn’t seem right…

[@davidmurray1630]

The traction response of the Rivian was not impressive... especially for the price of this vehicle. I do think it is far superior to the Cybertruck... especially in exterior looks and interior quality. I just wish they weren't so expensive. I'm not sure they can sustain a profitable company at those prices without some sort of entry level model. Time will tell.

[@mcsike7264]

Off road the cyber truck is better it has more ground clearance and 2 lockers to the rivians non and also due to its body dont have to worry about pain or rock chips

[@carlossilviotube]

😂😂. Not just numbers. I have seen a few cybertrucks missing panels and plastics while offrading. Almost like they started to sell them with out testing them first. Before the rivian started to sell them they already have tested them from la patagonia to california. Two very different approaches

[@uh60ce1]

How you guys have not had the New Colorado ZR2 Bison compared to any of these yet is a sin.

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

Rivian's "just floor it until you get over the obstacle" is annoying. It encourages terrible post-obstacle behavior. It really should try harder on the more-than-dual-motor versions before insisting you apply more accelerator. The vehicle is absolutely capable of amazing things off-roading, it's just the software's decisions that are silly. "No, that tire is in the air, you can stop trying to spin that one. Try spinning the two that are firmly planted and your sensors can feel resistance to spin…"

[@taylorj959a]

with the Rivian you will go through a lot of tires because of that wheel spin

[@j2014montgomery]

You're very handsome! 😂 Love you guys!

[@maschwerer]

Fun video, guys! But vehicles are wayyyy too expensive these days. Ford wants over $50k for a baby truck? No thanks. Rivian over $100k. Neither are worth it.

[@treydrier3169]

RR is not a "baby truck". That would be the Maverick. See how I cleared that up for you? Now go buy one! 😆

[@1FiftyOverland]

IDC waht orientation veh screens arenas long as they dont atick up off the dash like an after thought