2024 Jeep Wrangler 392 vs Ford Bronco Raptor - After Off-Roading Both, This Is The One I Would Buy!

[@TT-ch2pz]

The real question is, who the hell pays 100K for either one of these. That's ridiculous!

[@justinw12311]

To answer your question is the people who are fake , have no morals and screw people out of money . aka this generation !

[@Sal_car88]

Seriously! I'm failing to see the value. Just buy a basic jeep or bronco and mod it yourself to save tens of thousands of dollars

[@JollyGiant19]

Enough. I see Mercedes S class SUVs at national parks now so these costs aren’t out of the question for some…

[@TaylorCrosbyofficial]

Clearly you haven’t driven one. I loooove mine. Worth every penny

[@henrycruz45cal]

You do have 100k Roman; many times over

[@MichaelLochowitz]

When I paid $45K for my 2014 JKU Rubicon I was nervous to go extreme with off-roading it. I told my wife I wish I had bought an older jeep. Her advice was just wait, eventually this will be an older jeep. Now I’m having a blast with it and don’t give a hoot about pinstriping or worry about trail damage. I could not imagine the stress of taking a $100k vehicle off roading.

[@oliverpalmer7855]

That was exactly my thoughts, especially with my wife always wanting me to go a little more wild. Eventually since I had another car I was dailying, I just sold my newish 2012 jeep for a built 87 and it's a blast

[@nothingtoseaheardammit]

You dont have to worry about offloading a $100k rig... you have to worry about selling your offloaded $100k rig 🤣

[@MichaelGou]

When I bought this 392, it cost me $200,000, while my friend paid $300,000 for the same car in China. Here, a 2.0T rubicon sets you back $80,000, so before you grumble about paying $100K for a V8 natually aspirated jeep, just consider the money we folks in third-world countries have to fork out to own one. Perhaps then you'll understand if it's really worth it. God bless America.

[@qupeter1224]

there are a g63 4x4^2 that cost 300k+ msrp and the market adjusted price add at least the msrp of 394 to it😂😂 personally i can’t imagine people off reading with 400k+ car but rich people just don’t care

[@FahimibnDawud]

​@@MichaelGou Ok?! No one forced you to be an idiot with your money.

[@fosterrandy]

Great analysis and I like the opinion that you wouldn’t buy either. The average person can’t afford either and if they did manage to save enough would be too worried to use it off road like it should be used.

[@WW-wf8tu]

He said he would buy the 392. 🤷‍♂ It's what he was reviewing. Of course he would start off with the love for it. But when one push comes to shove, he can be very practical. But he still chooses a Jeep over the Bronco when it comes to hitting the trails. That is the take away here. 😉

[@jerrodcorey25]

I'll tell you I would pick the Jeep for several reasons. 1. SOLID AXLES FRONT & REAR 2. V-8 NATURALLY ASPIRATED 3. IT'S A JEEP

[@canalesivany]

Is a jeep= is trash! The bronc is trash as well can go wrong with either one

[@mikes.8305]

Those three reasons are why I like the bronco 😂.

[@dawsonsschittcreek5395]

1) Makes for an uncomfortable long road trip and drive like a brick - where you'll do 99% of driving. 2) How often are you going to need those couple extra HP (unless you drag racing constantly 😂😂) versus burning fuel unnecessarily on a daily basis. 3) Jeep consistently ranks as 1 of the least dependable vehicles every year. On the flip side...37s stock, ride comfort and advanced tech package vs jeep....pretty simple decision.

[@sabsterblaster]

The 392's not a NA engine, it's supercharged

[@KapitanPoop]

It’s a Peugeot now….. 😂

[@ruggedindsoup2135]

I wheel my 392…. when I first got it I was worried about being able to take the risk of scratching it or worse. After a little while I just figured it’s a Jeep, it’s supposed to have a few scratches or a ding or two. Now I’m ok with it.

[@jimfranklin8162]

After spending a lot of time looking at them, I bought the 392 and so glad I did. To be clear, I am a Ford guy. We are heading to Sedona and Moab in 90 days.

[@geomax3465]

The Wrangler with that Soundtrack!... It's a DREAM 🤤

[@neilbrown7412]

Not going to spend $100k for either. But, if I had to choose, I would definitely go with the Jeep 392.

[@ZboeC5]

Too bad a 6.4 engine upgrade in a RAM is like 2k but put it in a Wrangler and now it's a 25k upgrade...that's the BS part about it.

[@BruceDragon-sf1tr]

That Bronco has came into Jeep realm and stomp it, forget being a dam fan, that Ford Bronco is on another level. Go test drive one if you don't believe me

[@PyroBlonde7777]

@@BruceDragon-sf1tr You're on meth. We've already seen Broncos with broken control arms because of independent suspension. The solid axles in the Jeep are 10x stronger. I've been in a loaded Rubicon on rough trails. They ride incredibly smooth. You're the fanboy.

[@BruceDragon-sf1tr]

@@PyroBlonde7777 you're somewhat correct, The Bronco needs an well experienced driver, that's it. Of course the suspension easier to break but the Bronco is built for more than just being a one trick pony, Everything Mopar has is one trick pony. Now how about you stop speed balling before you enter the W🌎RLD WIDE WEB

[@DarylRagland-ds1op]

Bad choice

[@blakemarchand6650]

392 All day no questions asked

[@IAmTheGuy1477]

Now, we want a 392 gladiator!

[@MaryandTheJeepCycle]

YES!!

[@bobkonradi1027]

A 392 Gladiator and with more towing capacity, close to what you can get with a Ram 150 pickup.

[@scottleggejr]

@@bobkonradi1027 They rolled the idiot dice when they put their engine/trans lineup in everything Stellantis 😜😜

[@GronGrinder]

its stupid it wasn't in the Gladiator in the first place.

[@Relyk711]

This was one of my favorite Roman videos in a long time, or maybe ever. It felt pretty raw in all aspects, in a good way. A vulnerable opinion, a reflective stance on the market and TFL, a beautiful trail, two great vehicles and their subtle differences. Maybe it was the gasping for air, but it works! Great job as always team.

[@John-yf4ie]

Both these vehicles are like a dream come true, but for me I enjoy our 2021 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon. True it's not a 392 but I can go any where off road, haul a large trailer filled with Dirt, haul wood. I moved my one sons furniture to his new home in the back of my Gladiator. I drove from Baltimore to NY and back on the highway doing 70 and sometimes hit 87 miles an hour and my fuel mileage was around 22 mpg. We drove up there to bring home a new rescue dog. Any way a great video!! YANNI!

[@michaelblock3998]

I’ve had 2 clients with 392s, trained them offroad driving and recovery. Excellent vehicle, I’m a Toyota guy. I’d buy the 392 if I had 100k to buy a Jeep.

[@khurram51280]

I would be interested in training

[@the_patriot7]

you can put your Toyota in the garbage !!! 👎👎👎

[@wesalexander2693]

Great video, Roman and gorgeous scenery! I've been a Ford guy for many years, but that 392 Wrangler checks all the boxes that the Bronco Raptor doesn't! Those huge rubber/plastic fender flairs are just silly looking and no V6 will ever compare, sound wise, to the sound of a V8.

[@jeffk464]

They had to put them on there for legal reasons, but they didn't really pull off the styling. They looked just plunked on. They should have done more fender flair like they do for the F150 and Ranger Raptor. By the way if I were going to buy a Raptor I would get the Ranger not the Bronco. The Raptor pickups look bad ass.

[@bakhtiyarpakhirdinov2461]

@advfiberglass can fix the flare thing

[@LGoody9273]

I believe Rubbermaid has filed a copyright lawsuit, haha.

[@thebigfellar7178]

My 2022 jeep wrangler unlimited sounds as good or better with factory pipes. But then she is a diesel, and she sounds like a diesel. When I went to finally get my dream vehicle. It was a long search. Two weeks it took me to find a diesel. That was brand spanking new. The eco-diesels are rare as hens' teeth now. I have 900 miles on her now. I bought an 8-year bumper to bumper warranty, based off not only my family's advice but everyone from the dealer to mechanics etc. She is surprisingly powerful. I'm driving her like a baby, but she jumps. Our driveway is 1/4 mile long we live in the blue ridge mountains of Va. There are no paved roads. My 3rd jeep. I'd never pay 100K for anything. 100K=House.

[@wesalexander2693]

@@thebigfellar7178 I've been a diesel fan for many years, the torque and fuel economy are big advantages and, at least if you're a diesel fan, they sound good doing it! Years ago, we bought a used TDI "New" Beetle. We loved that car, it climbed hills like a mountain goat and achieved great fuel economy. Too bad VW had to cheat with their "diesel-gate" debacle, it was a wonderful engine.

[@hughwolfe1176]

Great comparison, thank you for putting this video together… At one time I’d thought about a Bronco before they were actually out on the road and visible. Now that they’ve been out for a while, and they’re considerably fewer of them than Jeeps, I’d still purchase a Jeep as it has a history of off roading (and it just looks better)… So far as the 392 or the Raptor, if I could afford one it would be the 392.

[@HJOperative]

Just bought my Bronco Raptor last week for a Tax right off! Haha I love it so far! I have a built dedicated off road rig with solid axles so I am definitely aware of the pros and cons of both. For me I am using the bronco for mostly on road use so I really like the comfort of the Bronco. I see your point about the jeep being more integrated with styling. But really the only visible difference between a regular jeep and the 392 is the hood. The Bronco Raptor looks completely different than the regular Bronco, no mistaking it. For me the is a personal plus. Ford made the Bronco Raptor so so much different than the regular one with a different engine, axles, suspension, looks, lights, etc.

[@DarylRagland-ds1op]

I agree Bronco over jeep. Nobody cares how much money you don't have. Lmao. Bragging about a fun jeep. WOW your nig rich lol

[@WilliamIsCool15]

How did you do tax write off?

[@moemanm1202]

He has a business and writes it as a business expense

[@ralphkeith2905]

I would take my $100k and buy a Jeep Willys and do some upgrades; with the remainder of the money I'd purchase a top-of-the line mountain bike, new lightweight kayak and a Patriot camper to tow along.

[@damiangrouse4564]

And probably have Ruth Crist steak money for a year.

[@lancec3509]

You'll be 50k on the patriot. ..

[@DL-iq5zo]

What bike would you get?

[@ralphkeith2905]

@@DL-iq5zo I just picked up a Cervelo ZFS-5. Very similar to the Santa Cruz Blur, but at a much lower price.

[@austinspitler32]

I’d go with the 392 hands down! The Bronco has some nice features but you can’t beat that classic Jeep look with the thunder of the V8!

[@jeffk464]

Personally I would go with a $50,000 Rubicon. Maybe I would spring for the 4XE.

[@cheater_robin1817]

@@jeffk464i have the 392 and had a 4xe rubicon and the 4xe had so many problems with it so i had to switch to a v8

[@jeffk464]

@@cheater_robin1817 bummer

[@jonisjonjon6705]

@@cheater_robin1817I heard that the 4xe has an Italian engine that’s has many issues.

[@cheater_robin1817]

@@jonisjonjon6705Ye it’s the 2.0 liter they already sell and they add the electric bs to it. only gets u 20 miles and many electrical problems with it. I had it for about a month and sold it and lost money on it. ordered the 392 fully loaded and never looked back

[@TTCoyoteF150]

Shopped both and picked the Raptor. More comfortable inside and better factory suspension. Loved the 6.4 but thats about about it.

[@YouTubeBinging]

I bought 3 of each just for funsies

[@derlar777]

Love my Bronco Raptor more then I expected. Never have been jeep fan although great for what is made to do after major mods. Jeep lovers should thank Bronco for pushing Jeep to give people better options and style instead of minimalist safety and reliability without major upgrades, otherwise Jeep would be stuck more lipstick on a old design.

[@YouTubeBinging]

@derlar777 me too. I'm so glad I pre-ordered 4. One for me, my wife, and my daughter. I sold the 4th for profit which basically paid for my daughter's and some of the other 2.

[@Its_Me0000]

Thanks Roman. I would select the Jeep. I agree with your assessment that it is more fun to go off road with a $36K vehicle than a $100k vehicle.

[@Sal_car88]

At 14k in mods and you saved 50k and probably have a MORE capable vehicle.

[@williammenken2090]

My Wife has a 2022 392 in Tuscadero and I have a 2023 392 in Black. We love them and they are fun, on and off road

[@rockymountainjazzfan1822]

I had a '98 XJ that I bought used in 2002. I drove it 19 years. It was mildly modified (lift kit, 31", tires, Detroit Locker, extra skid plates, and winch). Counting everything, I had about $12K invested in it. Mechanically, it was nearly bulletproof, but--like most Jeeps--it suffered from the usually litany of electrical issues. It was still going strong when I sold it when I relocated out of heavy-duty 4-wheeling country (I still have other 4WD's) and it would go anywhere that these $90K+ 4WD's will go.

[@LGoody9273]

I had an 87 XJ decades ago, I wheeled/beat the ever livin sh!t out of that poor thing. Sold it to my dad for a beater farm rig after about 10 years of abuse, it finally gave up the ghost at close to 375K miles with ZERO engine, transmission, T-case or axel work. We should have had bronzed. Fast forward 30 years and I'm driving a 23 Rubicon that I'll never do the crazy sh!t I did in that XJ! Thanks for spurring the memories.

[@rodhester2166]

Both are awesome but I would take the Bronco because of better behavior on the road. Also I was with Litebrite when they took the Raptor on trails in Sand Hollow. Stock it went where 95% of people will never go. I am sure the jeep could also go on those trails but the highway trip to the event is the big difference.

[@jamieeisenhower1560]

You must have had a off-road package only the Jeep will always be the king you could do anything to it and enjoy it and many conditions all about setup learn how to use a setup from what I have seen about Broncos they bounce around like a toy really stiff and no flex or Comfort special on the highway the old broncos had an actual suspension and front axle

[@rodhester2166]

IFS is more high speed friendly than a solid. I have two old broncos one 1970 stock and one 76 off roader, so I know all about them. @@jamieeisenhower1560

[@theclinchmma4126]

@@jamieeisenhower1560 you could just let ppl have their opinions and keep scrollin... you're obviously biased. Not everyone is gonna like jeep, and your opinion isn't gonna convince ppl otherwise.

[@jamieeisenhower1560]

@theclinchmma41260 whatever dude quit telling people what to do and what to think just because you like something different weirdo high-priced junk is not going to satisfy people old school with new school mix will always be the king don't be trying to tell people what they like and don't like

[@rodhester2166]

All I did was state my opinion. If you understood the physics and behavior of a front suspension ( Solid front vs IFS ) You would understand why on road and high speed performance is different between the two. There is actual science behind it. Last time I checked new jeeps were not inexpensive at all. As for old school I was most likely rock crawling before you even new how to drive dude. @@jamieeisenhower1560

[@AHealthyRun]

I have a 2022 jeep 392, I ordered it in December 21 and received it July 4, 2022, it’s not a daily driver. I am just as excited now as I was back in July when I picked it up in 2022.. my build sticker came to a total price of 82,000 Fully loaded gorilla glass, front camera, extreme recon package.

[@ribbit1964]

Good morning Roman! Love your one man videos and this one did not disappoint! Go TFL!

[@dawsonsschittcreek5395]

Roman's bias was clear from the beginning on which vehicle he covered more. And his reason that it was just the v8 is comical.

[@Ruddline]

I really like how you kept it real about pricing. Most people would buy these and then get too cocky, if you destroy your wheelbase in 3 foot deep of mud/quicksand even with the God Jeep, you might still get stuck. Repair for your 392 might be as much as a basic Jeep. It might never be the same again. You need to be ok with doing damage to your off roader.

[@DUNEATV]

I’m a Ford guy but I’d have to take the Jeep Rubicon! V8 and solid front axle! 💪

[@jeffk464]

Ford has been having trouble meeting demand and the dealerships have absolutely been ripping off customers. Thats reason enough to buy a wrangler.

[@makatron]

Death wobble 🔥

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

​@makatron not until the front end parts start to wear out. I have a 05 Rubicon, and it had death wobble when I bought it. I rebuilt the front end, and no death wobble.

[@jeffk464]

@@richfarfugnuven6308 I've heard its also more on modified jeeps with huge tires and stuff.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

@@jeffk464 I'm running 35" tires. About to go to 37" tires. I will let you know how it goes.

[@brucehawk09]

One thing that confuses the hell out of me, is why did Ford put an analog speedo along with a massive digital one as well. I really like that Jeep kept their analog guages

[@Carl-vx9ws]

I did some digging into the manual for the Bronco, and the Raptor instrument cluster was shown as what would be in any Lux equipped Bronco, and the current instrument cluster for all other trims. Considering they changed the climate control knobs on the ‘22 models (removing the temperature display inside the knob) apparently due to availability of parts, I suspect the instrument cluster was another earlier casualty of part supply issues. Aesthetically speaking, I would have preferred all digital or all analog. I do find the Jeep cluster a better mix with the upgraded “Infotainment” display. That said, I love my Bronco, having owned a 2015 JKU for over seven years, it was an upgrade for me in how I use and enjoy my vehicle. I don’t have a Raptor and can’t justify the extra cost over a very well equipped “regular” Bronco. I feel the same about the Jeep, 392 is nice I just can’t justify the price. ✌🏼

[@msokes9]

2 complaints with the Bronco Raptor. Those ridiculous fenders and the lack of a V8. However, I drove by one yesterday and overall they are badass.

[@wallywanker7435]

To each his own I guess , I like the fenders maybe cause mine is black but they look good on red too lol , and the 6 has 418 hp , it feels like it has plenty of power. Had a 5.0 in my 21 f150 cause I had to have a v8 . I got over it. lol

[@seanflahockey]

I just traded in a ‘21 Rubicon for an Eruption Green WildTrak. Whereas these aren’t the vehicles you are testing, hands down for me the Ford is just more civilized. Hard to explain until you drive both.

[@wallywanker7435]

The bronco don’t drive like a Jeep. That’s a good thing. lol

[@DarylRagland-ds1op]

Love my Bronco

[@einfeldt777]

Roman you are hitting the nail right on the head, $100K plus is just way too expensive, so sad that most of us now are forced, to wait until we become the 3rd owner, before we can afford these wonderful machines

[@datastructure59]

or you can LS swap your current jeep :)

[@MS-mr4zm]

How is it “way too expensive” when a basic bi**h work truck is $50-$60k?!? A Tacoma trd pro w/1/2 the power & capability & size is $50k+

[@datastructure59]

@@MS-mr4zm THOSE ARE WAY TOO EXPENSIVE AS WELL, THEY ALL ARE

[@MS-mr4zm]

@@datastructure59 lol well I can’t disagree w/ that….but given the current market situation relative to much “lower tier” less capable vehicles & their respective price points? Not too much

[@wallywanker7435]

A Kia telluride sells for 75 k , a Kia ! So no these aren’t too much lol

[@TheNotimprezed]

Jeep people have been asking for a 5.7 as a $2000 option, not a $90k Jeep. The 392 is just spitting in the faces of loyal fans. Both are $30k over priced.

[@backwoodstherapy]

That would be wonderful but it won't happen. V8s are on the way out. I wish I could get a smaller V8 option in a Sport, but that will never be a thing again.

[@494demigodd]

Maybe why they going out of business. Way over priced, why not get a Defenders for that money?

[@hoglaw09]

Tommy should really be doing this one. He’s the best of the crew in doing direct comparison videos. He’s always very well prepared (he knows his comparison facts cold) and does a better job comparing the on paper specs to how they translate to real world use. The dad always seems lesser prepared and always seems to be “winging it”.

[@moreaufamily437]

The advantage of buying either the Wrangler 392 or the Bronco Raptor is not needing to modify it any further. It's as complete as can be right out of the factory. I've invested probably $15k in my '21 Wrangler Rubicon adding steel bumper front and back, winch, skid plates, etc. This is a way to get to the finish line right off the lot and the best part is, all covered under a warranty. As a former Hummer H1 owner, getting over the fear of wheeling a high dollar rig is something that one needs to get over by just taking it out usually with other people who also have high dollar value rigs. The wrangler 392 and Bronco Raptor excel offroad, in wilderness settings where these vehicles truly shine. I can go places where other people just can't go. That is what makes them worth it. I'd be torn and as much as I'm a Jeep person with a Wrangler and Gladiator in the Rubicon trim, I think I'd go for the Bronco Raptor in this case.

[@HarryKuloh]

Incorrect. 100k is insane.

[@benoliver2826]

I bought me a used Gladiator Rubicon with 30k miles for 43k. I did a fender chop, 2 inch mopar lift, and some 35 Ridge grapplers and she feels perfect. I cant imagine that jeep being worth 50,000 more lol. Its insane. I really wish they had a 5.7 Hemi for the gladiator.

[@ep6026]

Do a hemi swap in a couple of years

[@benoliver2826]

@@ep6026 lol ended up trading mine for a diesel. Never trading it again, it’s great

[@ep6026]

@@benoliver2826 I heard they are discontinuing the diesel , are you at least gonna do a def delete?

[@benoliver2826]

@@ep6026 ya when the warranty runs out I will. Until then I’m avoiding that so I don’t have issues at the dealer

[@Adam_K_W]

I have a ‘24 392 on order and I can’t wait to see it. I’ve just sold a very custom 4Runner for more than the original MSRP and I’m lucky enough to be able to afford the Jeep. The way things are going, I’d bet that this will be the last year for the hemi. Thanks for the great video!

[@cgoadsf5001]

Great explanation on why the shocks are "more advanced" on the 392 vs the regular wrangler...

[@ZboeC5]

There is no explanation because they aren't. Just heaver bound/rebound Rubicon shocks with damping rates to account for the heavier springs needed for the heavier engine. Lets not even get started on the fact that the 392 has less suspension articulation in the front because they can't let the front differential contact the oil pan...Which is achieved by using nothing more fancy than super extended front bumpstops to all but eliminate front suspension up travel.

[@roderickhance2088]

It’s the 392 all day long!! But sadly I agree with you on the neither as far as model….I’d LOVE to have a 392 one day, but they are just too darn expensive for the average consumer/wheeler. I’d still pick the JL tho with the v6. Great video guys!

[@JohnSmith-zi9or]

If I off-roaded all the time, the 392. Otherwise, the Raptor. Your videos make me jealous of Colorado and how beautiful it is. If only CO was a full red state and no income taxes.

[@elizavala4347]

If i had 100k. I would go with the bronco. I am a ford guy. So....maybe some bias. But very good comparison.

[@denisbrisebois7658]

For all the points you mentioned, and SPECIFICALLY THE 392 V8 power and exhaust sound, my pick would be the RUBICON 392, hands down!!!

[@LarryRichelli]

Your right about damaging the 4x4. I was living in Southern California desert and taking my lifted and re-geared Wrangler out in the desert it would be almost a $500 bill almost every time I took it out. From a broken tail light to a bent rim to a dented fender, if you really use a 4x4 it gets expensive fast. This is why I sold everything and quit off roading and now am a mountain biker driving a Ford Lightning and am saving a bunch of money!

[@dmcgarry3000]

Does it bug anyone else that they always seem to go to the most extreme off road mode for everything? Most of the off road stuff happening in these videos don't require lockers or even low range

[@backwoodstherapy]

Agreed. But they don't want to break anything so they try and go on easy mode.

[@MS-mr4zm]

They do cheaper stuff too

[@ReloaderJoe]

They pretty much use low range all the time. It's pretty annoying because it's not needed for most of the stuff they film.

[@stevehernandez3489]

Yeah, the high RPM’s was for sure bug’s in that video. No need for it on that dirt road trail. I thought I was being overly dramatic but glad to know others felt the same way.

[@oneslackr]

@@stevehernandez3489 : You could drive up that trail in an '87 Yugo. No $100K Jeep or Raptor needed.

[@6226superhurricane]

jeep was the first production 4wd with independent suspension. the ifs vs solid axle was never a debate you choose which one suits you. solid axle for hard offroading and simplicity. ifs for ride comfort and handling.

[@DarylRagland-ds1op]

Well said

[@Pilot-Ali]

Roman you’re right, either of the two options are expensive for off-roading. Seems like people who will buy these two for either mall crawling and other occasional reasons.

[@jamelmccreary8175]

I would get an 03 landcruiser and save thousands..

[@Pilot-Ali]

@@jamelmccreary8175 Nice choice, I would go for a 2015 4Runner, maybe 09 would be better.

[@Natealfjames]

Own a Jeep love it , it’s great on the highway too, it’s perfectly imperfect

[@DarylRagland-ds1op]

Yeah sounds like it

[@wint_62]

Crazy prices, but the Jeep 392.

[@mitchelljude4198]

i own both for me the bronco is my pick they both are great 4x4

[@loneapple440]

Great video of the Jeep. Awesome vehicle, but price is high.

[@dealy9268]

100% the 392 Jeep Rubicon! Honestly I'll just put the money into my 2016 JKU Sport! Ford needs to fix it's front end issues! Yes the Raptor has beefier tie rod ends then the lower Bronco's but I saw a Raptor getting dragged by a Jeep JKU Sport back down the trail due to a snapped steering gear. The soft tops are complete trash!

[@tubeularvids]

That jeep looks too good. I’m a sucker for that type of green.

[@HarryKuloh]

I'm also a sucker for that type of gray*. Light gray with a tinge of green. Earl gray, cactus gray, lunar Rock, and even Honda madness a version too.

[@tubeularvids]

@@HarryKuloh same 😆 it’s basically olive drab

[@tacticalfrog0152]

392 for me, if I had to pick between the two (I’m a Land Rover guy). I’ve always had a personal bias against Ford (the Braptor is cool though).

[@hallkbrdz]

Having driven a solid axle Jeep for the first time this year - unless I used it ONLY off road, I would never want one. It was easily the worst vehicle I have driven in 40 years. So for me, the Bronco wins hands down by default because most of the time, I drive on road. But for $100k both are too expensive, I wouldn't buy either.

[@vvk]

The poll needs a third option "something else" as the world is not limited to these two.

[@jabroni6199]

@@vvkbut the scope of this video is

[@jeffk464]

Yeah, or the 4runner. Some people are pretty huge Overlanders or just weekend offroaders, the Wrangler's more for them. Supposedly they've improved the road manners of the 2024 Wrangler, but I haven't heard any reviews mentioning it yet. Another thing people do is have a commuter car and use the jeep when they want to. The Wrangler is probably fine around town but if you put a lot of highway miles on, its probably not great.

[@chipparmley]

I heard one comparison say the the Bronco was a street car that did ok on the trails, and the 392 was an off road car that did ok on the streets

[@heytherebato]

What kind of logic is that. These are designed to go offroad. Common sense states the better offroader is the better one. You think people care about creature comfort when comparing super cars and their track performace?

[@davidwebster3510]

Those comments at the end are the best comments I’ve ever heard from one of these channels honesty I love it

[@stevenscott8784]

When it comes to the argument of IFS vs solid axle, my opinion has always been that no matter how much off-roading you do, for 90 percent of us, your vehicle is going to spend the majority of its life on paved road. Me personally would rather have that luxury of driving comfortable on paved road along with the capability the bronco has of road, but that's just my opinion.

[@wallywanker7435]

Yep your right jeeps feel like ass on the road. Why feel like your off-roading when your traveling 1000 miles.

[@DarylRagland-ds1op]

Jeeps just too uncomfortable

[@twinturbo3470]

Thank you for being honest about owning a cheap off reader and not giving a shit. It really does make things more fun

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

For rock crawling, Jeep. For the desert, B-Raptor. I live in Denver, but would still buy the B-Raptor.😂

[@TJ-po9ol]

F150 Raptor is far better for desert running

[@scottyellis3442]

It would be the ford for me. I come from a very large family & when one buys a vehicle it normally snowballs into everyone else. At one time there were probably around 30 jeeps in my family and out of those 28 gave trouble. "Interior falls apart & lots of electrical issues".

[@WW-wf8tu]

Careful, Jeep fanatics will hunt you down and beat you for being honest and not being 1 of them.

[@scottyellis3442]

@@WW-wf8tu true, 🤣

[@kinsmen1764]

Hey, I'm one of the jeep fanatics here...........Trust me, fords also have their issues, if the 30 jeeps your family had were fords, you would be saying the same thing. Good luck with ford

[@JoeSmith-nu8oo]

@@WW-wf8tu 😝 I would love to have a Bronco..........from the 60's, 70's or an 80-86. But right now I have 2 Jeeps and owned 2 a decade ago and never had any issues with them.Let's not act like FORD is a trouble free auto manufacturer or any other for that matter👍

[@scottyellis3442]

@kinsmen1764 not hardly, they've all switched to Ford, & with no issues. I myself switched 30 years ago from Chrysler to ford & all my ford's have never disappointed me, can't say the same about Chrysler. All my Chrysler products (4) had engine or transmission problems. If you like Chrysler, jeep, fiat, Peugeot, Stellantis, then that's what I'd spend my money on, & spend, & spend but for me I'll take a Ford any day.

[@FirstnameLastname-gz8hy]

Another point which may or may not matter depending on the person but the bronco raptor is much more comfortable on the road and highway, due to the the independent front suspension. So if you’re not offroading every weekend you might want to take the slight hit to rock crawling ability just for the everyday ease of use

[@Petey003]

Bronco Raptor and Wrangler 392 are direct competitors but still excel at different things. The 392 is genuinely easier to handle in town, park, etc. The BRaptor is bigger, more comfortable and also super capable but in the rocks I still say Wrangler.

[@jeffk464]

Everyone still seems to think the Wrangler is better offroad.

[@Petey003]

@@jeffk464 Yea, I'm on the east coast (Vermont) and the trails are so overgrown, steep, and TIGHT that my wrangler is already rubbing tires on both sides. There's no way anything wider would come through them. Well, not with fenders and body fenders intact. LOL

[@caifan444]

Great Video Roman and all the guys down in TFL Studios !!!

[@americanpatriot8996]

Wrangler 392 all the way

[@kevinstarski1598]

We need a bit more of "Test driven TV" approach with some of these comparisons about how it FEELS when you're going thru washboards or forest roads, and rougher terrains...Which vehicle "seems" to be put together better, as far as able to withstand everything that comes with offroading...the stats can be found online....

[@mikebutler901]

I’ve already ordered the 392, expecting it to arrive probably in about a month. Can hardly wait…

[@Ruddline]

Congratulations, you genuinely deserve it!

[@JOSHSMITH-ak47]

Agree to the end of this so much! Why I have a 2017 Wrangler I modded to have fun off road with and the 392 to keep low miles, resale value and finally when I don’t give a 💩 take it off road!

[@johnkraft5640]

You do not need 4 low in the 392. The torque of the engine will pull you along just fine in 4 high.

[@ashergreenfield4180]

How’s that work out going downhill?

[@johnkraft5640]

@@ashergreenfield4180 hill descent control button. Please understand and know the capabilities, limitations, options of the vehicles being tested.

[@factorvracing]

I bought a 2022 ford Roush Ranger. Same platform as the Bronco. You mentioned the independent front suspension. The computer is your locker. I was in the grading industry and had 4x4 all my career and my Ranger will go anywhere I want it to go. Did I mention cruise control for crawling that the computer takes over with almost no spinning. My truck is the top model for that year at half the price. I have Fox shocks that are adjustable.

[@a_man_has_no_name]

They're apples to oranges, the 392 is a hardcore articulating rock climber, the Bronco Raptor is a baja desert runner. If jeep comes up with a wrangler Mojave then it would be a fair comparison. Yet again those fender flares on the raptor are quite polarizing and makes it hard to negotiate tight trails. Ignoring the price; the jeep is a better option IMO

[@85bigGMC]

392 in hydro blue with half doors and soft top is my dream setup. I don’t like the new grill though so the first mod would be putting the older style one on.

[@bjornironsides6474]

Older style won’t fit

[@85bigGMC]

@@bjornironsides6474 are you sure? They grill is usually just for looks and is easily swapped out. The headlights, hood, fenders, etc are all the same so it should.

[@backwoodstherapy]

Totally different vehicles. That Raptor can't navigate tight turns the Wrangler can, it can't flex like the Wrangler can, the Wrangler is way more moddable. Personally, I'd take the Wrangler but the Raptor has it's uses. I'd rather take a stock Willys and lift it and put on some 37s for half the price of a base 392.

[@dekindorcas9780]

I've owned a 2020 Rubicon with the recon package along with a 2022 F150 Raptor. The ONLY reason I would choose the Bronco Raptor over the 392 is the highway experience. I drive back and forth between my cabin in North Carolina and Florida a few times a year and that Jeep Rubicon was exhausting (I like to drive straight through). If I didn't have that unique need then I would pick the 392 all day (especially the 2024 with its full float rear axle and other upgrades). The Raptor drives a ton better on the highway and I will most likely end up going with it. Again, if I didn't make that drive (at least) 3 times a year I would pick the 2024 392 100% of the time.

[@OBS4ever16]

Who is stupid enough to pay 95k on a JEEP!

[@kidamere2408]

or a ford

[@kevinstarski1598]

Plenty of people...but how about customers who pay half that for some off road truck and have no intentions of going off road. Stupid as it gets

[@JoeSmith-nu8oo]

You could say that about a million different things. How about people buy what they like and it doesn't have to be stupid🤔

[@jeepdogjl8687]

I'm considering buying one.

[@toddmcguire8581]

Love my 392….had a TRX previously and the 392 is just more fun. Enjoyed the video.

[@scotteramsey]

I would take the Jeep... There is no replacement for displacement. Also, the Jeep look and axels can't be beat.

[@danielfair4675]

Yep, that 99 mph top speed is killer 😂😂

[@DarylRagland-ds1op]

Yeah we go everywhere through the woods. HEHEHEHE

[@waleedzemami915]

I graduated from Wayne state in Detroit and used to dream of buying a Jeep wrangler was built next door in Toledo despite the fact that at time Lee Iacocca couldn’t figure out how to fix the door locks on the Wrangler but you had the choice of removing the whole door and drive. It had a character. But now I am back home in Kuwait and still want to own a wrangler for me and my children to use but with the 6.4 Hemi I am thinking this is gonna be like flying on Boeing sitting next to a a door blowout.

[@extersmedleyjr118]

Well you guys feature a lot of Trucks I would dare say no one would use as intended because of the costs involved. Trx's, Raptors you name it they cost way to much to ever use off road!

[@MartinStockel-k6f]

For real serious off roading I would take the Rubicon 392. If you do trails like Moab the Jeep won't have too many problems, the Raptor will make it also, but I would expect a lot more damage to the undercarriage and body panels. Considering the out of sight price with both being close or over $100,00 who wants to bash either one. You don't sound to good, hoping you are feeling ok. Thank you for a very enjoyable review!

[@The-fs5wn]

You expect the vehicle with: More ground clearance More underbody protection Stronger axles Stronger frame Thicker body panels Bigger tires and better angles to have more trail damage. Wideness might cause problems on a couple specifically sized trails, but other than that, why would you expect the Wrangler to take less damage?

[@bradrandolph4625]

@@The-fs5wnBRaptor ❤ Some folks are simply Jeep folks even if a true rival comes along (BRaptor). I’ve done my homework and am proud to say I’ve got a BRaptor on order, barely over sticker too!

[@MartinStockel-k6f]

@@The-fs5wn Basically because of its smaller size. You also have to account for the drivers off-road driving ability as compared to someone with much less experience. Some of your examples are not correct.

[@The-fs5wn]

@user-vs7ec1wz5d which ones? Ground clearance the Braptor has 13.1 to 11.1, steel underbody vs aluminum, Dana 50 vs Dana 44, visibly thicker frame, thicker door and fender panels with a reinforced tailgate, standard 37s vs optional 35s, and approach, departure and breakover are all better on the Braptor. All of my examples are correct.

[@TheZR2Kid]

Bronco Rapter!!!!! For sure!

[@NicholasDrewecki-mm2hf]

You're right Roman. 100k Mall crawler...

[@mamatobz2890]

Totally agree. Ford is comfort. Gladiator is my option if only it also had a 392. We need better colors too!

[@j.m.karsch9105]

We bought the 392 and hands down the funnest rig I've ever owned

[@daveisnothere]

Imagine how much you could do to an older used 4x4 of your choosing with that 95k. Anything you build for that money would out perform these two.

[@buckhorncortez]

Any comment that starts with "Imagine" as the lead-in is immediately ignored for lack of imagination...

[@Lensync7]

Want to love you guys.. But a 315/70-17 is the the same size as the 315/ 80 on the RAPTOR?! No not even close... Trust is everything and that basic... Don't get me wrong this channel is AMAZING but just trying to help out!

[@kingpin3919]

Love the scenery and review. Love both vehicles. Can't afford neither 😂

[@4foxsake571]

I have to admit, that I love that V8, but if your considering power loss at high elevation, the raptor with the forced induction is going to perform much more consistently.

[@garyrichards9539]

The Jeep. Framed doors hold up longer, particularly for off-road. ✔✔

[@wallywanker7435]

No they don’t lol.

[@JarmelSingsKaraoke]

Thanks Roman 😊..... Have a beautiful Sunday everyone ✌️

[@davidrdanner4232]

If I could buy one it would be the 392 Rubicon.

[@andretavares472]

Thanks Mr Bind...eh for the inflation of prices

[@StickerFab]

We just sold our 392 and decided to keep the Bronco Raptor. Loved the speed and sound of the 392, but the Broncos are easier to live with. The real shame is that you can't spend all of your life offroad unless you turn it into a trailer queen 🤷‍♂️.

[@RKmndo]

I'd go with a 2.0T Sport S. They can get almost 30MPG hwy, and they keep most of their power at altitude. Add Ox lockers and maybe a 4:1 tcase gearset yourself. 2.72:1 4Low is already pretty decent though. Fab some anti-sway bar discos for cheap. $100K for an offroad rig is crazy. Either Wrangler or Bronco can take a roofrack, a spare/gate rack, and a trailer. 'No need to haul bicycles inside.

[@davewoodmancy5124]

I would definitely buy the Jeep. The Broncos just looks like you're trying to make it to futuristic and that's not usually wanted on an off-road vehicle. You want something it is more rugged

[@LogansRCOverland]

I would take the 392 rubicon, that thing is a beast and it sounds awsome. For me that wanna be jeep with the little v6 isn't even something I would consider taking over the 392 wrangler rubicon.

[@Olddahg]

Roman is Hoka’s largest stock holder 😂

[@ChaseBond11]

I looked at these.... Then bought a 2 year old G550 with 30k miles and pocketed the other 30k for trips, mods, maintenance, etc. I've been much happier than with my Rubicon. The road manners and NVH alone are worth any trade offs.

[@andrewevans1519]

Take the Jeep all day everyday

[@COChevyTrainMan1990]

If I had the money, I would get……… NEITHER. My money is on the 2023 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 ZR2 AEV Bison. Better in passenger comfort, more cargo space, and way better towing capacity than the other two. Plus it looks great and I can find one to my liking priced below the MSRP of a fully loaded Wrangler 392 and Bronco Raptor and still have leftover money for a adventure. I know it’s not a direct competitor to these two and I don’t care if you people say it’s not the best choice or Chevrolet dealerships will mark up the price, I won’t change my opinion. Keep up the great work, TFL. By any chance a IKE GAUNTLET video of this Jeep be on the horizon, hint hint, lol.

[@JCVACCARO]

I'll take the 392.

[@Biketech4us]

The 392 over the Bronco Raptor, provided the on road steering can take the power and does not drift all over the road. Drove a 2020 Rubicon and scared the bats out of me at 65 mph on the freeway and got a Raptor instead. BUT now for some odd reason, I would prefer the 392 ….V8 -> like you

[@nismo370z4]

They should come with a few Jerry cans to haul extra fuel. That 392 in 4low is gonna use a lot of fuel on the trail real fast. The Bronco Raptor isn't any better either.