2024 Jeep Wrangler 392 vs Ford Bronco Raptor - After Off-Roading Both, This Is The One I Would Buy!

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( www.alltfl.com ) Watch more videos from TFL Studios! Summer is an epic time for off-roading some equally badass off-roaders in the Colorado Rockies. Roman compares the 2024 Jeep Wrangler 392 to the Ford Bronco Raptor in this video to find out which is really best!
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@TT-ch2pz
@TT-ch2pz 10 ай бұрын
The real question is, who the hell pays 100K for either one of these. That's ridiculous!
@justinw12311
@justinw12311 10 ай бұрын
To answer your question is the people who are fake , have no morals and screw people out of money . aka this generation !
@satisfyerpro
@satisfyerpro 10 ай бұрын
Seriously! I'm failing to see the value. Just buy a basic jeep or bronco and mod it yourself to save tens of thousands of dollars
@JollyGiant19
@JollyGiant19 10 ай бұрын
Enough. I see Mercedes S class SUVs at national parks now so these costs aren’t out of the question for some…
@TaylorCrosbyofficial
@TaylorCrosbyofficial 10 ай бұрын
Clearly you haven’t driven one. I loooove mine. Worth every penny
@henrycruz45cal
@henrycruz45cal 10 ай бұрын
You do have 100k Roman; many times over
@MichaelLochowitz
@MichaelLochowitz 10 ай бұрын
When I paid $45K for my 2014 JKU Rubicon I was nervous to go extreme with off-roading it. I told my wife I wish I had bought an older jeep. Her advice was just wait, eventually this will be an older jeep. Now I’m having a blast with it and don’t give a hoot about pinstriping or worry about trail damage. I could not imagine the stress of taking a $100k vehicle off roading.
@oliverpalmer7855
@oliverpalmer7855 10 ай бұрын
That was exactly my thoughts, especially with my wife always wanting me to go a little more wild. Eventually since I had another car I was dailying, I just sold my newish 2012 jeep for a built 87 and it's a blast
@nothingtoseaheardammit
@nothingtoseaheardammit 9 ай бұрын
You dont have to worry about offloading a $100k rig... you have to worry about selling your offloaded $100k rig 🤣
@MichaelGou
@MichaelGou 9 ай бұрын
When I bought this 392, it cost me $200,000, while my friend paid $300,000 for the same car in China. Here, a 2.0T rubicon sets you back $80,000, so before you grumble about paying $100K for a V8 natually aspirated jeep, just consider the money we folks in third-world countries have to fork out to own one. Perhaps then you'll understand if it's really worth it. God bless America.
@qupeter1224
@qupeter1224 5 ай бұрын
there are a g63 4x4^2 that cost 300k+ msrp and the market adjusted price add at least the msrp of 394 to it😂😂 personally i can’t imagine people off reading with 400k+ car but rich people just don’t care
@FahimibnDawud
@FahimibnDawud 22 күн бұрын
​@@MichaelGou Ok?! No one forced you to be an idiot with your money.
@IAmTheGuy1477
@IAmTheGuy1477 10 ай бұрын
Now, we want a 392 gladiator!
@MaryandTheJeepCycle
@MaryandTheJeepCycle 10 ай бұрын
YES!!
@bobkonradi1027
@bobkonradi1027 8 ай бұрын
A 392 Gladiator and with more towing capacity, close to what you can get with a Ram 150 pickup.
@scottleggejr
@scottleggejr 22 күн бұрын
@@bobkonradi1027 They rolled the idiot dice when they put their engine/trans lineup in everything Stellantis 😜😜
@geomax3465
@geomax3465 10 ай бұрын
The Wrangler with that Soundtrack!... It's a DREAM 🤤
@fosterrandy
@fosterrandy 10 ай бұрын
Great analysis and I like the opinion that you wouldn’t buy either. The average person can’t afford either and if they did manage to save enough would be too worried to use it off road like it should be used.
@WW-wf8tu
@WW-wf8tu 10 ай бұрын
He said he would buy the 392. 🤷‍♂ It's what he was reviewing. Of course he would start off with the love for it. But when one push comes to shove, he can be very practical. But he still chooses a Jeep over the Bronco when it comes to hitting the trails. That is the take away here. 😉
@Relyk711
@Relyk711 10 ай бұрын
This was one of my favorite Roman videos in a long time, or maybe ever. It felt pretty raw in all aspects, in a good way. A vulnerable opinion, a reflective stance on the market and TFL, a beautiful trail, two great vehicles and their subtle differences. Maybe it was the gasping for air, but it works! Great job as always team.
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 10 ай бұрын
For rock crawling, Jeep. For the desert, B-Raptor. I live in Denver, but would still buy the B-Raptor.😂
@TJ-po9ol
@TJ-po9ol 9 ай бұрын
F150 Raptor is far better for desert running
@michaelblock3998
@michaelblock3998 10 ай бұрын
I’ve had 2 clients with 392s, trained them offroad driving and recovery. Excellent vehicle, I’m a Toyota guy. I’d buy the 392 if I had 100k to buy a Jeep.
@khurram51280
@khurram51280 5 ай бұрын
I would be interested in training
@Its_Me0000
@Its_Me0000 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Roman. I would select the Jeep. I agree with your assessment that it is more fun to go off road with a $36K vehicle than a $100k vehicle.
@satisfyerpro
@satisfyerpro 10 ай бұрын
At 14k in mods and you saved 50k and probably have a MORE capable vehicle.
@fishgill0890
@fishgill0890 10 ай бұрын
Shopped both and picked the Raptor. More comfortable inside and better factory suspension. Loved the 6.4 but thats about about it.
@YouTubeBinging
@YouTubeBinging 6 ай бұрын
I bought 3 of each just for funsies
@derlar777
@derlar777 6 ай бұрын
Love my Bronco Raptor more then I expected. Never have been jeep fan although great for what is made to do after major mods. Jeep lovers should thank Bronco for pushing Jeep to give people better options and style instead of minimalist safety and reliability without major upgrades, otherwise Jeep would be stuck more lipstick on a old design.
@YouTubeBinging
@YouTubeBinging 6 ай бұрын
@derlar777 me too. I'm so glad I pre-ordered 4. One for me, my wife, and my daughter. I sold the 4th for profit which basically paid for my daughter's and some of the other 2.
@ralphkeith2905
@ralphkeith2905 10 ай бұрын
I would take my $100k and buy a Jeep Willys and do some upgrades; with the remainder of the money I'd purchase a top-of-the line mountain bike, new lightweight kayak and a Patriot camper to tow along.
@damiangrouse4564
@damiangrouse4564 10 ай бұрын
And probably have Ruth Crist steak money for a year.
@lancec3509
@lancec3509 10 ай бұрын
You'll be 50k on the patriot. ..
@neilbrown7412
@neilbrown7412 10 ай бұрын
Not going to spend $100k for either. But, if I had to choose, I would definitely go with the Jeep 392.
@ZboeC5
@ZboeC5 10 ай бұрын
Too bad a 6.4 engine upgrade in a RAM is like 2k but put it in a Wrangler and now it's a 25k upgrade...that's the BS part about it.
@BruceDragon-sf1tr
@BruceDragon-sf1tr 10 ай бұрын
That Bronco has came into Jeep realm and stomp it, forget being a dam fan, that Ford Bronco is on another level. Go test drive one if you don't believe me
@PyroBlonde7777
@PyroBlonde7777 6 ай бұрын
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr You're on meth. We've already seen Broncos with broken control arms because of independent suspension. The solid axles in the Jeep are 10x stronger. I've been in a loaded Rubicon on rough trails. They ride incredibly smooth. You're the fanboy.
@BruceDragon-sf1tr
@BruceDragon-sf1tr 6 ай бұрын
@@PyroBlonde7777 you're somewhat correct, The Bronco needs an well experienced driver, that's it. Of course the suspension easier to break but the Bronco is built for more than just being a one trick pony, Everything Mopar has is one trick pony. Now how about you stop speed balling before you enter the W🌎RLD WIDE WEB
@wesalexander2693
@wesalexander2693 10 ай бұрын
Great video, Roman and gorgeous scenery! I've been a Ford guy for many years, but that 392 Wrangler checks all the boxes that the Bronco Raptor doesn't! Those huge rubber/plastic fender flairs are just silly looking and no V6 will ever compare, sound wise, to the sound of a V8.
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 10 ай бұрын
They had to put them on there for legal reasons, but they didn't really pull off the styling. They looked just plunked on. They should have done more fender flair like they do for the F150 and Ranger Raptor. By the way if I were going to buy a Raptor I would get the Ranger not the Bronco. The Raptor pickups look bad ass.
@bakhtiyarpakhirdinov2461
@bakhtiyarpakhirdinov2461 10 ай бұрын
@advfiberglass can fix the flare thing
@larrygoodsell9273
@larrygoodsell9273 10 ай бұрын
I believe Rubbermaid has filed a copyright lawsuit, haha.
@thebigfellar7178
@thebigfellar7178 3 ай бұрын
My 2022 jeep wrangler unlimited sounds as good or better with factory pipes. But then she is a diesel, and she sounds like a diesel. When I went to finally get my dream vehicle. It was a long search. Two weeks it took me to find a diesel. That was brand spanking new. The eco-diesels are rare as hens' teeth now. I have 900 miles on her now. I bought an 8-year bumper to bumper warranty, based off not only my family's advice but everyone from the dealer to mechanics etc. She is surprisingly powerful. I'm driving her like a baby, but she jumps. Our driveway is 1/4 mile long we live in the blue ridge mountains of Va. There are no paved roads. My 3rd jeep. I'd never pay 100K for anything. 100K=House.
@wesalexander2693
@wesalexander2693 3 ай бұрын
@@thebigfellar7178 I've been a diesel fan for many years, the torque and fuel economy are big advantages and, at least if you're a diesel fan, they sound good doing it! Years ago, we bought a used TDI "New" Beetle. We loved that car, it climbed hills like a mountain goat and achieved great fuel economy. Too bad VW had to cheat with their "diesel-gate" debacle, it was a wonderful engine.
@dmcgarry3000
@dmcgarry3000 10 ай бұрын
Does it bug anyone else that they always seem to go to the most extreme off road mode for everything? Most of the off road stuff happening in these videos don't require lockers or even low range
@backwoodstherapy
@backwoodstherapy 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. But they don't want to break anything so they try and go on easy mode.
@MS-mr4zm
@MS-mr4zm 10 ай бұрын
They do cheaper stuff too
@ReloaderJoe
@ReloaderJoe 10 ай бұрын
They pretty much use low range all the time. It's pretty annoying because it's not needed for most of the stuff they film.
@stevehernandez3489
@stevehernandez3489 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, the high RPM’s was for sure bug’s in that video. No need for it on that dirt road trail. I thought I was being overly dramatic but glad to know others felt the same way.
@oneslackr
@oneslackr 8 ай бұрын
@@stevehernandez3489 : You could drive up that trail in an '87 Yugo. No $100K Jeep or Raptor needed.
@austinspitler32
@austinspitler32 10 ай бұрын
I’d go with the 392 hands down! The Bronco has some nice features but you can’t beat that classic Jeep look with the thunder of the V8!
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 10 ай бұрын
Personally I would go with a $50,000 Rubicon. Maybe I would spring for the 4XE.
@cheater_robin1817
@cheater_robin1817 10 ай бұрын
@@jeffk464i have the 392 and had a 4xe rubicon and the 4xe had so many problems with it so i had to switch to a v8
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 10 ай бұрын
@@cheater_robin1817 bummer
@jonisjonjon6705
@jonisjonjon6705 10 ай бұрын
@@cheater_robin1817I heard that the 4xe has an Italian engine that’s has many issues.
@cheater_robin1817
@cheater_robin1817 10 ай бұрын
@@jonisjonjon6705Ye it’s the 2.0 liter they already sell and they add the electric bs to it. only gets u 20 miles and many electrical problems with it. I had it for about a month and sold it and lost money on it. ordered the 392 fully loaded and never looked back
@TheNotimprezed
@TheNotimprezed 10 ай бұрын
Jeep people have been asking for a 5.7 as a $2000 option, not a $90k Jeep. The 392 is just spitting in the faces of loyal fans. Both are $30k over priced.
@backwoodstherapy
@backwoodstherapy 10 ай бұрын
That would be wonderful but it won't happen. V8s are on the way out. I wish I could get a smaller V8 option in a Sport, but that will never be a thing again.
@williammenken2090
@williammenken2090 10 ай бұрын
My Wife has a 2022 392 in Tuscadero and I have a 2023 392 in Black. We love them and they are fun, on and off road
@ribbit1964
@ribbit1964 10 ай бұрын
Good morning Roman! Love your one man videos and this one did not disappoint! Go TFL!
@John-yf4ie
@John-yf4ie 10 ай бұрын
Both these vehicles are like a dream come true, but for me I enjoy our 2021 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon. True it's not a 392 but I can go any where off road, haul a large trailer filled with Dirt, haul wood. I moved my one sons furniture to his new home in the back of my Gladiator. I drove from Baltimore to NY and back on the highway doing 70 and sometimes hit 87 miles an hour and my fuel mileage was around 22 mpg. We drove up there to bring home a new rescue dog. Any way a great video!! YANNI!
@DUNEATV
@DUNEATV 10 ай бұрын
I’m a Ford guy but I’d have to take the Jeep Rubicon! V8 and solid front axle! 💪
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 10 ай бұрын
Ford has been having trouble meeting demand and the dealerships have absolutely been ripping off customers. Thats reason enough to buy a wrangler.
@makatron
@makatron 10 ай бұрын
Death wobble 🔥
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 10 ай бұрын
​@makatron not until the front end parts start to wear out. I have a 05 Rubicon, and it had death wobble when I bought it. I rebuilt the front end, and no death wobble.
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 10 ай бұрын
@@richfarfugnuven6308 I've heard its also more on modified jeeps with huge tires and stuff.
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 10 ай бұрын
@@jeffk464 I'm running 35" tires. About to go to 37" tires. I will let you know how it goes.
@hughwolfe1176
@hughwolfe1176 10 ай бұрын
Great comparison, thank you for putting this video together… At one time I’d thought about a Bronco before they were actually out on the road and visible. Now that they’ve been out for a while, and they’re considerably fewer of them than Jeeps, I’d still purchase a Jeep as it has a history of off roading (and it just looks better)… So far as the 392 or the Raptor, if I could afford one it would be the 392.
@benoliver2826
@benoliver2826 10 ай бұрын
I bought me a used Gladiator Rubicon with 30k miles for 43k. I did a fender chop, 2 inch mopar lift, and some 35 Ridge grapplers and she feels perfect. I cant imagine that jeep being worth 50,000 more lol. Its insane. I really wish they had a 5.7 Hemi for the gladiator.
@hoglaw09
@hoglaw09 9 ай бұрын
Tommy should really be doing this one. He’s the best of the crew in doing direct comparison videos. He’s always very well prepared (he knows his comparison facts cold) and does a better job comparing the on paper specs to how they translate to real world use. The dad always seems lesser prepared and always seems to be “winging it”.
@HJOperative
@HJOperative 4 ай бұрын
Just bought my Bronco Raptor last week for a Tax right off! Haha I love it so far! I have a built dedicated off road rig with solid axles so I am definitely aware of the pros and cons of both. For me I am using the bronco for mostly on road use so I really like the comfort of the Bronco. I see your point about the jeep being more integrated with styling. But really the only visible difference between a regular jeep and the 392 is the hood. The Bronco Raptor looks completely different than the regular Bronco, no mistaking it. For me the is a personal plus. Ford made the Bronco Raptor so so much different than the regular one with a different engine, axles, suspension, looks, lights, etc.
@ruggedindsoup2135
@ruggedindsoup2135 10 ай бұрын
I wheel my 392…. when I first got it I was worried about being able to take the risk of scratching it or worse. After a little while I just figured it’s a Jeep, it’s supposed to have a few scratches or a ding or two. Now I’m ok with it.
@jerrodcorey25
@jerrodcorey25 10 ай бұрын
I'll tell you I would pick the Jeep for several reasons. 1. SOLID AXLES FRONT & REAR 2. V-8 NATURALLY ASPIRATED 3. IT'S A JEEP
@canalesivany
@canalesivany 10 ай бұрын
Is a jeep= is trash! The bronc is trash as well can go wrong with either one
@mikes.8305
@mikes.8305 10 ай бұрын
Those three reasons are why I like the bronco 😂.
@JarmelSingsKaraoke
@JarmelSingsKaraoke 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Roman 😊..... Have a beautiful Sunday everyone ✌️
@einfeldt777
@einfeldt777 10 ай бұрын
Roman you are hitting the nail right on the head, $100K plus is just way too expensive, so sad that most of us now are forced, to wait until we become the 3rd owner, before we can afford these wonderful machines
@rickbalderas7153
@rickbalderas7153 10 ай бұрын
or you can LS swap your current jeep :)
@MS-mr4zm
@MS-mr4zm 10 ай бұрын
How is it “way too expensive” when a basic bi**h work truck is $50-$60k?!? A Tacoma trd pro w/1/2 the power & capability & size is $50k+
@rickbalderas7153
@rickbalderas7153 9 ай бұрын
@@MS-mr4zm THOSE ARE WAY TOO EXPENSIVE AS WELL, THEY ALL ARE
@MS-mr4zm
@MS-mr4zm 9 ай бұрын
@@rickbalderas7153 lol well I can’t disagree w/ that….but given the current market situation relative to much “lower tier” less capable vehicles & their respective price points? Not too much
@wallywanker7435
@wallywanker7435 Ай бұрын
A Kia telluride sells for 75 k , a Kia ! So no these aren’t too much lol
@rodhester2166
@rodhester2166 10 ай бұрын
Both are awesome but I would take the Bronco because of better behavior on the road. Also I was with Litebrite when they took the Raptor on trails in Sand Hollow. Stock it went where 95% of people will never go. I am sure the jeep could also go on those trails but the highway trip to the event is the big difference.
@jamieeisenhower1560
@jamieeisenhower1560 8 ай бұрын
You must have had a off-road package only the Jeep will always be the king you could do anything to it and enjoy it and many conditions all about setup learn how to use a setup from what I have seen about Broncos they bounce around like a toy really stiff and no flex or Comfort special on the highway the old broncos had an actual suspension and front axle
@rodhester2166
@rodhester2166 8 ай бұрын
IFS is more high speed friendly than a solid. I have two old broncos one 1970 stock and one 76 off roader, so I know all about them. @@jamieeisenhower1560
@theclinchmma4126
@theclinchmma4126 8 ай бұрын
@@jamieeisenhower1560 you could just let ppl have their opinions and keep scrollin... you're obviously biased. Not everyone is gonna like jeep, and your opinion isn't gonna convince ppl otherwise.
@jamieeisenhower1560
@jamieeisenhower1560 8 ай бұрын
@theclinchmma41260 whatever dude quit telling people what to do and what to think just because you like something different weirdo high-priced junk is not going to satisfy people old school with new school mix will always be the king don't be trying to tell people what they like and don't like
@rodhester2166
@rodhester2166 8 ай бұрын
All I did was state my opinion. If you understood the physics and behavior of a front suspension ( Solid front vs IFS ) You would understand why on road and high speed performance is different between the two. There is actual science behind it. Last time I checked new jeeps were not inexpensive at all. As for old school I was most likely rock crawling before you even new how to drive dude. @@jamieeisenhower1560
@brucebaker3523
@brucebaker3523 10 ай бұрын
Anyone with 100k to blow on a toy might want to take up flying.
@caifan444
@caifan444 10 ай бұрын
Great Video Roman and all the guys down in TFL Studios !!!
@denisbrisebois7658
@denisbrisebois7658 10 ай бұрын
For all the points you mentioned, and SPECIFICALLY THE 392 V8 power and exhaust sound, my pick would be the RUBICON 392, hands down!!!
@disgruntledconservativevet1798
@disgruntledconservativevet1798 10 ай бұрын
Vehicle prices are out of control. I wouldn’t spend $100,000 on any vehicle. These manufacturers need a reality check.
@kevinstarski1598
@kevinstarski1598 10 ай бұрын
Manufacturers will produce (and dealers will mark up) whatever customers gobble up...
@brucehawk09
@brucehawk09 10 ай бұрын
One thing that confuses the hell out of me, is why did Ford put an analog speedo along with a massive digital one as well. I really like that Jeep kept their analog guages
@Carl-vx9ws
@Carl-vx9ws 10 ай бұрын
I did some digging into the manual for the Bronco, and the Raptor instrument cluster was shown as what would be in any Lux equipped Bronco, and the current instrument cluster for all other trims. Considering they changed the climate control knobs on the ‘22 models (removing the temperature display inside the knob) apparently due to availability of parts, I suspect the instrument cluster was another earlier casualty of part supply issues. Aesthetically speaking, I would have preferred all digital or all analog. I do find the Jeep cluster a better mix with the upgraded “Infotainment” display. That said, I love my Bronco, having owned a 2015 JKU for over seven years, it was an upgrade for me in how I use and enjoy my vehicle. I don’t have a Raptor and can’t justify the extra cost over a very well equipped “regular” Bronco. I feel the same about the Jeep, 392 is nice I just can’t justify the price. ✌🏼
@underscr0e
@underscr0e 5 ай бұрын
Never been a jeep guy or chrysler and dodge guy….but, this jeep is awesome.
@ethannorton1560
@ethannorton1560 10 ай бұрын
Bronco Rapter!!!!! For sure!
@Ruddline
@Ruddline 10 ай бұрын
I really like how you kept it real about pricing. Most people would buy these and then get too cocky, if you destroy your wheelbase in 3 foot deep of mud/quicksand even with the God Jeep, you might still get stuck. Repair for your 392 might be as much as a basic Jeep. It might never be the same again. You need to be ok with doing damage to your off roader.
@scotteramsey
@scotteramsey 10 ай бұрын
I would take the Jeep... There is no replacement for displacement. Also, the Jeep look and axels can't be beat.
@danielfair4675
@danielfair4675 10 ай бұрын
Yep, that 99 mph top speed is killer 😂😂
@jimfranklin8162
@jimfranklin8162 5 ай бұрын
After spending a lot of time looking at them, I bought the 392 and so glad I did. To be clear, I am a Ford guy. We are heading to Sedona and Moab in 90 days.
@Donkeys_Dad_Adam
@Donkeys_Dad_Adam 10 ай бұрын
I have a ‘24 392 on order and I can’t wait to see it. I’ve just sold a very custom 4Runner for more than the original MSRP and I’m lucky enough to be able to afford the Jeep. The way things are going, I’d bet that this will be the last year for the hemi. Thanks for the great video!
@wint_62
@wint_62 10 ай бұрын
Crazy prices, but the Jeep 392.
@rockymountainjazzfan1822
@rockymountainjazzfan1822 10 ай бұрын
I had a '98 XJ that I bought used in 2002. I drove it 19 years. It was mildly modified (lift kit, 31", tires, Detroit Locker, extra skid plates, and winch). Counting everything, I had about $12K invested in it. Mechanically, it was nearly bulletproof, but--like most Jeeps--it suffered from the usually litany of electrical issues. It was still going strong when I sold it when I relocated out of heavy-duty 4-wheeling country (I still have other 4WD's) and it would go anywhere that these $90K+ 4WD's will go.
@larrygoodsell9273
@larrygoodsell9273 10 ай бұрын
I had an 87 XJ decades ago, I wheeled/beat the ever livin sh!t out of that poor thing. Sold it to my dad for a beater farm rig after about 10 years of abuse, it finally gave up the ghost at close to 375K miles with ZERO engine, transmission, T-case or axel work. We should have had bronzed. Fast forward 30 years and I'm driving a 23 Rubicon that I'll never do the crazy sh!t I did in that XJ! Thanks for spurring the memories.
@roderickhance2088
@roderickhance2088 10 ай бұрын
It’s the 392 all day long!! But sadly I agree with you on the neither as far as model….I’d LOVE to have a 392 one day, but they are just too darn expensive for the average consumer/wheeler. I’d still pick the JL tho with the v6. Great video guys!
@StickerFab
@StickerFab 10 ай бұрын
We just sold our 392 and decided to keep the Bronco Raptor. Loved the speed and sound of the 392, but the Broncos are easier to live with. The real shame is that you can't spend all of your life offroad unless you turn it into a trailer queen 🤷‍♂️.
@seanflahockey
@seanflahockey 10 ай бұрын
I just traded in a ‘21 Rubicon for an Eruption Green WildTrak. Whereas these aren’t the vehicles you are testing, hands down for me the Ford is just more civilized. Hard to explain until you drive both.
@wallywanker7435
@wallywanker7435 Ай бұрын
The bronco don’t drive like a Jeep. That’s a good thing. lol
@cgoadsf5001
@cgoadsf5001 10 ай бұрын
Great explanation on why the shocks are "more advanced" on the 392 vs the regular wrangler...
@ZboeC5
@ZboeC5 10 ай бұрын
There is no explanation because they aren't. Just heaver bound/rebound Rubicon shocks with damping rates to account for the heavier springs needed for the heavier engine. Lets not even get started on the fact that the 392 has less suspension articulation in the front because they can't let the front differential contact the oil pan...Which is achieved by using nothing more fancy than super extended front bumpstops to all but eliminate front suspension up travel.
@David-my3uu
@David-my3uu 10 ай бұрын
Excellent - would love to see you back on that trail with both vehicles when there’s a foot of snow on the ground!
@orl2222
@orl2222 10 ай бұрын
I just bought a 2023 Gladiator Sport S. I live in socal. so it will probably never go off road. I love it! I'm a boomer, so it does bring back memories of high school auto shop solid axles drag links, etc. The ride is extremely smooth. My brother bough a 2021 Ford Ranger 4x4, but the dealer put on their own tire and wheel package with super off road tread. Honestly, the Ranger rides rougher, and the whine from the tires would get to me. He is never gonna go off road either, so its mute. He got alil mad becuse he confessed he wanted a Galditor, but the wife had a cousin who was a sales manager at a Ford Dealer. I'd pick the Wrangler over the Bronco, it's proven it self over the years, and to be Honest Ford has had a alot QC issues with them. And, I was GM tecnical trainer, now retired so been in the industry for years.
@tubeularvids
@tubeularvids 10 ай бұрын
That jeep looks too good. I’m a sucker for that type of green.
@HarryKuloh
@HarryKuloh 10 ай бұрын
I'm also a sucker for that type of gray*. Light gray with a tinge of green. Earl gray, cactus gray, lunar Rock, and even Honda madness a version too.
@tubeularvids
@tubeularvids 10 ай бұрын
@@HarryKuloh same 😆 it’s basically olive drab
@loneapple440
@loneapple440 10 ай бұрын
Great video of the Jeep. Awesome vehicle, but price is high.
@davidwebster3510
@davidwebster3510 10 ай бұрын
Those comments at the end are the best comments I’ve ever heard from one of these channels honesty I love it
@morgancook6481
@morgancook6481 10 ай бұрын
Definitely agree in the 2017 Jeep y'all have over either the 392 or Raptor. Had a blast in my 2017. I do have a 22 JLR now but am still wheeling it, after all, that's what they're made for.
@kingpin3919
@kingpin3919 10 ай бұрын
Love the scenery and review. Love both vehicles. Can't afford neither 😂
@S97795
@S97795 10 ай бұрын
2 complaints with the Bronco Raptor. Those ridiculous fenders and the lack of a V8. However, I drove by one yesterday and overall they are badass.
@wallywanker7435
@wallywanker7435 Ай бұрын
To each his own I guess , I like the fenders maybe cause mine is black but they look good on red too lol , and the 6 has 418 hp , it feels like it has plenty of power. Had a 5.0 in my 21 f150 cause I had to have a v8 . I got over it. lol
@Natealfjames
@Natealfjames 8 ай бұрын
Own a Jeep love it , it’s great on the highway too, it’s perfectly imperfect
@LarryRichelli
@LarryRichelli 5 күн бұрын
Your right about damaging the 4x4. I was living in Southern California desert and taking my lifted and re-geared Wrangler out in the desert it would be almost a $500 bill almost every time I took it out. From a broken tail light to a bent rim to a dented fender, if you really use a 4x4 it gets expensive fast. This is why I sold everything and quit off roading and now am a mountain biker driving a Ford Lightning and am saving a bunch of money!
@tewksburydriver8624
@tewksburydriver8624 10 ай бұрын
The prices are insane, but if if I'm not spending money it's the 392 easily.
@americanpatriot8996
@americanpatriot8996 10 ай бұрын
Wrangler 392 all the way
@plumber802
@plumber802 10 ай бұрын
Such a "no brainer": JEEP 110% ... Solid axles and you actually have to pull on a lever to change transfer case drive modes! Oh and the Alpine Audio is TOP NOTCH.
@morgancook6481
@morgancook6481 10 ай бұрын
Since i actually wheel, 392 with solid axles all day every day over the Broncos IFS. Not to mention the rear is now a full float.
@Pilot-Ali
@Pilot-Ali 10 ай бұрын
Roman you’re right, either of the two options are expensive for off-roading. Seems like people who will buy these two for either mall crawling and other occasional reasons.
@jamelmccreary8175
@jamelmccreary8175 10 ай бұрын
I would get an 03 landcruiser and save thousands..
@Pilot-Ali
@Pilot-Ali 10 ай бұрын
@@jamelmccreary8175 Nice choice, I would go for a 2015 4Runner, maybe 09 would be better.
@Olddahg
@Olddahg 10 ай бұрын
Roman is Hoka’s largest stock holder 😂
@twinturbo3470
@twinturbo3470 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for being honest about owning a cheap off reader and not giving a shit. It really does make things more fun
@gkcamden9050
@gkcamden9050 10 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. Thank you.
@daveisnothere
@daveisnothere 10 ай бұрын
Imagine how much you could do to an older used 4x4 of your choosing with that 95k. Anything you build for that money would out perform these two.
@buckhorncortez
@buckhorncortez 7 ай бұрын
Any comment that starts with "Imagine" as the lead-in is immediately ignored for lack of imagination...
@moreaufamily437
@moreaufamily437 10 ай бұрын
The advantage of buying either the Wrangler 392 or the Bronco Raptor is not needing to modify it any further. It's as complete as can be right out of the factory. I've invested probably $15k in my '21 Wrangler Rubicon adding steel bumper front and back, winch, skid plates, etc. This is a way to get to the finish line right off the lot and the best part is, all covered under a warranty. As a former Hummer H1 owner, getting over the fear of wheeling a high dollar rig is something that one needs to get over by just taking it out usually with other people who also have high dollar value rigs. The wrangler 392 and Bronco Raptor excel offroad, in wilderness settings where these vehicles truly shine. I can go places where other people just can't go. That is what makes them worth it. I'd be torn and as much as I'm a Jeep person with a Wrangler and Gladiator in the Rubicon trim, I think I'd go for the Bronco Raptor in this case.
@HarryKuloh
@HarryKuloh 10 ай бұрын
Incorrect. 100k is insane.
@user-rt3gh8ev1e
@user-rt3gh8ev1e 4 ай бұрын
When he asked her favorite number, she answered without hesitation that it was diamonds.
@user-rb5go5fo3r
@user-rb5go5fo3r 10 ай бұрын
I went with the Wrangler 392 Earl 2023 model. Love it!
@JohnSmith-zi9or
@JohnSmith-zi9or 10 ай бұрын
If I off-roaded all the time, the 392. Otherwise, the Raptor. Your videos make me jealous of Colorado and how beautiful it is. If only CO was a full red state and no income taxes.
@chrispark11
@chrispark11 10 ай бұрын
On the Jeep, the price really sucks, the screen is way too small after you've seen the Bronco's. I have the Bronco Badlands Sasquatch with Lux package and the biggest advantage the Jeep has is the winch option without having to do major surgery for cameras and sensors. That's the biggest issue I've found with the Bronco so far.
@Yamanijja
@Yamanijja 8 ай бұрын
I loved the Branco but I saw many videos it has water leaks during rainy season, when you open the doors all the water from the top of the car going inside it, is that normal or factory issue ?
@davidsauls9542
@davidsauls9542 10 ай бұрын
Amen !!! Another great video with honest, well informed opinion.
@scottyellis3442
@scottyellis3442 10 ай бұрын
It would be the ford for me. I come from a very large family & when one buys a vehicle it normally snowballs into everyone else. At one time there were probably around 30 jeeps in my family and out of those 28 gave trouble. "Interior falls apart & lots of electrical issues".
@WW-wf8tu
@WW-wf8tu 10 ай бұрын
Careful, Jeep fanatics will hunt you down and beat you for being honest and not being 1 of them.
@scottyellis3442
@scottyellis3442 10 ай бұрын
@@WW-wf8tu true, 🤣
@kinsmen1764
@kinsmen1764 10 ай бұрын
Hey, I'm one of the jeep fanatics here...........Trust me, fords also have their issues, if the 30 jeeps your family had were fords, you would be saying the same thing. Good luck with ford
@JoeSmith-nu8oo
@JoeSmith-nu8oo 10 ай бұрын
@@WW-wf8tu 😝 I would love to have a Bronco..........from the 60's, 70's or an 80-86. But right now I have 2 Jeeps and owned 2 a decade ago and never had any issues with them.Let's not act like FORD is a trouble free auto manufacturer or any other for that matter👍
@scottyellis3442
@scottyellis3442 10 ай бұрын
@kinsmen1764 not hardly, they've all switched to Ford, & with no issues. I myself switched 30 years ago from Chrysler to ford & all my ford's have never disappointed me, can't say the same about Chrysler. All my Chrysler products (4) had engine or transmission problems. If you like Chrysler, jeep, fiat, Peugeot, Stellantis, then that's what I'd spend my money on, & spend, & spend but for me I'll take a Ford any day.
@extersmedleyjr118
@extersmedleyjr118 10 ай бұрын
Well you guys feature a lot of Trucks I would dare say no one would use as intended because of the costs involved. Trx's, Raptors you name it they cost way to much to ever use off road!
@blakemarchand6650
@blakemarchand6650 10 ай бұрын
392 All day no questions asked
@kevinstarski1598
@kevinstarski1598 10 ай бұрын
We need a bit more of "Test driven TV" approach with some of these comparisons about how it FEELS when you're going thru washboards or forest roads, and rougher terrains...Which vehicle "seems" to be put together better, as far as able to withstand everything that comes with offroading...the stats can be found online....
@OBS4ever16
@OBS4ever16 10 ай бұрын
Who is stupid enough to pay 95k on a JEEP!
@kidamere2408
@kidamere2408 10 ай бұрын
or a ford
@kevinstarski1598
@kevinstarski1598 10 ай бұрын
Plenty of people...but how about customers who pay half that for some off road truck and have no intentions of going off road. Stupid as it gets
@JoeSmith-nu8oo
@JoeSmith-nu8oo 10 ай бұрын
You could say that about a million different things. How about people buy what they like and it doesn't have to be stupid🤔
@jeepdogjl8687
@jeepdogjl8687 10 ай бұрын
I'm considering buying one.
@Petey003
@Petey003 10 ай бұрын
Bronco Raptor and Wrangler 392 are direct competitors but still excel at different things. The 392 is genuinely easier to handle in town, park, etc. The BRaptor is bigger, more comfortable and also super capable but in the rocks I still say Wrangler.
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 10 ай бұрын
Everyone still seems to think the Wrangler is better offroad.
@Petey003
@Petey003 10 ай бұрын
@@jeffk464 Yea, I'm on the east coast (Vermont) and the trails are so overgrown, steep, and TIGHT that my wrangler is already rubbing tires on both sides. There's no way anything wider would come through them. Well, not with fenders and body fenders intact. LOL
@wmurphy3416ify
@wmurphy3416ify 10 ай бұрын
That earl grey is something else! Tried to find a gladiator in it but that and a Mojave package was almost impossible to find. I saw one and it was gone the next day. Great video as always
@gregmonhollen4327
@gregmonhollen4327 10 ай бұрын
I work in the plant just order one. It won’t take long to get it.
@jakelatham
@jakelatham 10 ай бұрын
Remind me what trail this is? I know you mentioned it but I can’t find it in the video again.
@garyrichards9539
@garyrichards9539 10 ай бұрын
The Jeep. Framed doors hold up longer, particularly for off-road. ✔✔
@wallywanker7435
@wallywanker7435 Ай бұрын
No they don’t lol.
@stevenscott8784
@stevenscott8784 10 ай бұрын
When it comes to the argument of IFS vs solid axle, my opinion has always been that no matter how much off-roading you do, for 90 percent of us, your vehicle is going to spend the majority of its life on paved road. Me personally would rather have that luxury of driving comfortable on paved road along with the capability the bronco has of road, but that's just my opinion.
@wallywanker7435
@wallywanker7435 Ай бұрын
Yep your right jeeps feel like ass on the road. Why feel like your off-roading when your traveling 1000 miles.
@JOSHSMITH-ak47
@JOSHSMITH-ak47 Ай бұрын
Agree to the end of this so much! Why I have a 2017 Wrangler I modded to have fun off road with and the 392 to keep low miles, resale value and finally when I don’t give a 💩 take it off road!
@notreallyme425
@notreallyme425 10 ай бұрын
25:20 The 2017 JK, did you do a video on that? I don’t see it on the channel, link?
@hallkbrdz
@hallkbrdz 10 ай бұрын
Having driven a solid axle Jeep for the first time this year - unless I used it ONLY off road, I would never want one. It was easily the worst vehicle I have driven in 40 years. So for me, the Bronco wins hands down by default because most of the time, I drive on road. But for $100k both are too expensive, I wouldn't buy either.
@vvk
@vvk 10 ай бұрын
The poll needs a third option "something else" as the world is not limited to these two.
@jabroni6199
@jabroni6199 10 ай бұрын
@@vvkbut the scope of this video is
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, or the 4runner. Some people are pretty huge Overlanders or just weekend offroaders, the Wrangler's more for them. Supposedly they've improved the road manners of the 2024 Wrangler, but I haven't heard any reviews mentioning it yet. Another thing people do is have a commuter car and use the jeep when they want to. The Wrangler is probably fine around town but if you put a lot of highway miles on, its probably not great.
@chipparmley
@chipparmley 10 ай бұрын
I heard one comparison say the the Bronco was a street car that did ok on the trails, and the 392 was an off road car that did ok on the streets
@heytherebato
@heytherebato 10 ай бұрын
What kind of logic is that. These are designed to go offroad. Common sense states the better offroader is the better one. You think people care about creature comfort when comparing super cars and their track performace?
@johnkraft5640
@johnkraft5640 10 ай бұрын
You do not need 4 low in the 392. The torque of the engine will pull you along just fine in 4 high.
@ashergreenfield4180
@ashergreenfield4180 10 ай бұрын
How’s that work out going downhill?
@johnkraft5640
@johnkraft5640 10 ай бұрын
@@ashergreenfield4180 hill descent control button. Please understand and know the capabilities, limitations, options of the vehicles being tested.
@JROC734
@JROC734 10 ай бұрын
Oh wow! Let me think. I'd absolutely love to own neither of these vehicles! Seeing as how I don't own both I'm feeling a lot of love.
@camonly849
@camonly849 9 ай бұрын
If I had to choose, no doubt it would be the raptor. Easily tune it to get equal or more hp and the suspension is just so much better and the bronco is more versatile.
@mamatobz2890
@mamatobz2890 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Ford is comfort. Gladiator is my option if only it also had a 392. We need better colors too!
@nismo370z4
@nismo370z4 10 ай бұрын
They should come with a few Jerry cans to haul extra fuel. That 392 in 4low is gonna use a lot of fuel on the trail real fast. The Bronco Raptor isn't any better either.
@toddmcguire8581
@toddmcguire8581 9 ай бұрын
Love my 392….had a TRX previously and the 392 is just more fun. Enjoyed the video.
@factorvracing
@factorvracing 3 ай бұрын
I bought a 2022 ford Roush Ranger. Same platform as the Bronco. You mentioned the independent front suspension. The computer is your locker. I was in the grading industry and had 4x4 all my career and my Ranger will go anywhere I want it to go. Did I mention cruise control for crawling that the computer takes over with almost no spinning. My truck is the top model for that year at half the price. I have Fox shocks that are adjustable.
@davewoodmancy5124
@davewoodmancy5124 10 ай бұрын
I would definitely buy the Jeep. The Broncos just looks like you're trying to make it to futuristic and that's not usually wanted on an off-road vehicle. You want something it is more rugged
@backwoodstherapy
@backwoodstherapy 10 ай бұрын
Totally different vehicles. That Raptor can't navigate tight turns the Wrangler can, it can't flex like the Wrangler can, the Wrangler is way more moddable. Personally, I'd take the Wrangler but the Raptor has it's uses. I'd rather take a stock Willys and lift it and put on some 37s for half the price of a base 392.
@JJ4213FL
@JJ4213FL 10 ай бұрын
Im a Ford guy and I'd take the 392 in a heartbeat. Im a sucker for V8's and their sounds, and 392 is one of the best sounding. Plus, it's a factory V8...in a Jeep. That hasnt happened since the CJ5/7. Get your V8's while you still can!
@RedMage117
@RedMage117 10 ай бұрын
As an owner of a Chevy SS, you're speaking my language. I'd go with the V8 every time. But at 100k, Id probably go with a more reasonable Badlands Bronco instead. It kills me that they don't offer a v8 option for like $10k more, instead of this customer bilking pricing...there is little to no reason for the 392 to be 40k higher than a Rubicon.
@JJ4213FL
@JJ4213FL 10 ай бұрын
@@RedMage117 I agree.
@davedawe2420
@davedawe2420 10 ай бұрын
I would have to agree with your final comment, Roman. The off-road capability of these vehicles in NO WAY justifies their humungous expense. A true off-roader isn't concerned about a ding or a dent, but if you're driving something that equals a second mortgage you're going to be a lot more discerning.
@Legendary-2024
@Legendary-2024 10 ай бұрын
i would love to see the bronco or 392 have tire inflation/deflation systems like the 90s hummer had
@dapymp17
@dapymp17 10 ай бұрын
Portals!!
@sugonmaballs
@sugonmaballs 10 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see these with 24" wheels in the Wal-Mart parking lot.
@RKmndo
@RKmndo 8 ай бұрын
I'd go with a 2.0T Sport S. They can get almost 30MPG hwy, and they keep most of their power at altitude. Add Ox lockers and maybe a 4:1 tcase gearset yourself. 2.72:1 4Low is already pretty decent though. Fab some anti-sway bar discos for cheap. $100K for an offroad rig is crazy. Either Wrangler or Bronco can take a roofrack, a spare/gate rack, and a trailer. 'No need to haul bicycles inside.
@TealOxAdv
@TealOxAdv 10 ай бұрын
My brother has a 392 and looked at the Raptor. He said it was an easy decision. My experience with his 392 was impressive. Given the lower number of Broncos in the wild, we’ve seen a disproportionate number of them broken on trails as well (tie rods).
@Goingforbroke71
@Goingforbroke71 10 ай бұрын
Not the raptor… entirely different frame, axles, and suspension set up
@azchris1979
@azchris1979 10 ай бұрын
@@Goingforbroke71 Yes, the tie rods seem to be a weak point. Street speed broke them on a mild hill.
@joshgonzalez2112
@joshgonzalez2112 10 ай бұрын
it’s the regular ones that have tie rod issues. Mainly because of heavy 35s and pushing it hard. The raptors is almost front axle is a big upgrade over the lower trim ones.
@azchris1979
@azchris1979 10 ай бұрын
@@joshgonzalez2112 No. Street Speed broke Raptor tie rods on a mild hill he bombs up in his old blazer. The video is still up.
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