Here's How the 2025 Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro Compares to the Tacoma TRD Pro!

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[@MichaelMiller-rg6or]

Hey TFL, please buy either a 4Runner or a Land Cruiser as a long term test vehicle. I would love to see what you guys do with it.

[@KidJaeProductions]

YES!

[@brandonrides8953]

Dealerships rubbing their hands and licking their lips

[@Sikh1.5Accord]

Raising the sticker prices over msrp already 🤣

[@cmiles97x38]

They already use SRP instead of MSRP. SRP is whatever they want to add on to the MSRP and fool folks that it is MSRP. This is being done with fees and adders even on corrolas. So yeah they will sticker bump these for sure.

[@HelloMoto1991]

@@cmiles97x38bump or balloon?

[@KickinItTogether]

@@cmiles97x38not if you find a reputable dealer. If you are in DFW, I recommend Freeman Toyota. They are absolutely the best. We have purchased all of our 4Runners from them.

[@Cocky.Rooster]

The reasonable Toyota community needs to stick together and say no way!

[@lonerider5315]

STILL daily driving my factory 87 4runner turbo sr5😊 Glad to see the rear window styling back But cmon Toyota, make the rear top removable again!

[@matthewschiebout7384]

how many turbos have you put on it?

[@theguy9234]

Man. Them turbo 22re trucks are rare now.

[@anibalbabilonia1867]

Amen! I definitely agree with you on this one! They should! That would be cool and awesome!

[@lonerider5315]

@@matthewschiebout7384zero, 162k, usually about .5 quarts every oil change (3k) thing never skips a beat. Possible the turbo was rebuilt before i got it, at 120k miles. But doesnt look like it. It's original

[@kylesummers1565]

My first new vehicle was a 1988 SR5 4-cyl (22R) 4x4 extended cab pickup. It wasn't a Jeep, but it did great off-road. I think I financed the full $12K. My how times have changed.

[@CarnutMM]

Love that rear quarter window designs. Reminiscent of 1st and 2nd gens. Only wish they kept transfer case lever.

[@Queensizemusic]

And the third window is also reminiscent of the Third Generation 4Runner, as well! I love it.

[@CarnutMM]

@@Queensizemusic I find the rear quarter windows reminiscent of 1st and 2nd gen

[@KidJaeProductions]

Actually it’s all 3! The rear quarter from the 1st and second gen, but I can see a little bit of the 3rd gen as well

[@drewwagner7985]

I like that you guys talk about the tire differences between the Taco and 4R. It would be interesting to also mention the wheel size, width and offset.

[@1guyin10]

Actually, I'm kind of glad they didn't screw with the design too much. It still looks like a 4Runner. ...as it should.

[@Tactical_Pterodactyl_Knives]

That's what toyota is so good at. They can make it new but bring the old design in enough to make everyone happy. They don't go for full total change like some other manufacturers which could be a flop.

[@ericsanchez3962]

Looks similar but they put turbo 4 cylinder engine and took away the naturally aspirated 6 cylinder engine.

[@jp23x]

Nobody wants an entirely new gen to look exactly like the old gen.

[@nicumarc5788]

I am not getting no 4 cylinder 4 runner!I don’t care it does this or that…give me back the v6

[@Tactical_Pterodactyl_Knives]

@@nicumarc5788 I was the same way but realizing that it's not an option any more is forcing me to accept it lol. And seeing everyone talk about how much more power they have is good. Plus you you know someone will come out with a tune or something for even more power.

[@ronsmith9251]

Can’t wait for these to be marked up $30,000 over MSRP.

[@giro994]

Find a different dealer. Our local ones don't charge extra (though they tried adding in $500 for pin striping, door handle protection, and nitrogen in the tires. Now they're adding in $800 for their ceramic wax), but the $15k addition that the Roseville one wrote in on even the low end Sienna made me not take them seriously.

[@stevekniess3665]

Thanks for the morning videos.

[@TFLoffroad]

Glad you like them!

[@anthonyc1883]

Of course, always good to see Roman leading a video because, well, he's the big chief of TFL and a big Toyota fan , of course, and with Andre by his side we know it's going to be, well, a really good comparison between the 4Runner and Tacoma because each truck is really equipped for off-roading, of course. Well, there you have it, of course. Ciao!

[@seannachampassak6479]

I love that they made an overland ready to go trim. I don’t need all that after market stuff but if it already comes with it, even better!

[@BrandonBaecker]

Thank you for actually mentioning the seat position when discussing rear seat legroom (and showing it with the seat all the way back). It's amazing how many auto reviewers miss this basic item. I also wish reviewers would start mentioning how far back the front seat actually goes, as I find all Hondas do not go back far enough for my legs to get comfortable.

[@erickisel8668]

GX 550 seems to be the way to go.

[@bearsquito]

Why?

[@Veyronp87]

its 30k more so it should be lol

[@erickisel8668]

@@Veyronp87 and the LC and 4Runner aren't?

[@J.Young808]

3.4L Twin Turbo V6 non hybrid is why. Not as complicated, although there are many 20 year old Prius hybrids running around with most of their battery life

[@undefeatedgaul3201]

@@Veyronp87false. The trailhunter 4Runner is gx550 overtrail price. And it’s an ugly piece of shit with a trash engine and less quality top to bottom

[@jodensmith5093]

This is awesome. They really didn’t mess this thing up. No dumb top that comes off or super overhaul of the look. Just modernizing what was amazing about the last gen but brought to today. Also doesn’t make you too jealous if you bought the fifth gen. Would really love to see the sr5 premium 4x4 model when it is available to see. Love the Chanel guys

[@tomweaver7723]

Except the trash engine

[@FuzzNiner]

That Morse code cubby looks perfect for an emergency can of dip or nic pouches.

[@georgeborders9686]

Roman is always towing he loves brake controllers!

[@southsidetom]

Broman is towing broken Hummers

[@smittysmitty481]

4Runner looks good! Nice job Toyota!!

[@lordcorgi6481]

I like it, but I was hoping after the Land Cruiser came out that the 4Runner would go in the Bronco/Wrangler direction like the old 4Runner was. I don't understand why they have the Land Cruiser where it is if it's a 4Runner basically.

[@JasPlun]

I would be happy to buy one if I could afford it, but unfortunately truck prices have gotten out of my reach. There is a point where I will say no because I am smart with my money and refuse to invest larger amounts into things that depreciate super fast like cars and trucks. I prefer to drive older and put my money to work making me more money then to watch it dis-appear in thin air. I think everybody has gotten to the same point as I have and are simply doing without because they are NOT paying the astronomical costs for a truck.

[@figmo7494]

So, what are you trying to say?

[@Evan-wt9zs]

@@figmo7494 New truck prices have gotten out of control.

[@JasPlun]

@@Evan-wt9zs He is one of those that walks into a dealership and says how much is that truck and dealer says 100k and then says OK what can you do to get my payments to ____number? Never pays attention to interest or years of loan. Never looks at depreciation or estimated cost of ownership.

[@projectrazorcrest3335]

you're right, but our discontent is misdirected. Manufacturers and dealer prices are tracking with inflation so it's fair pricing. The affordability issue is our paychecks do not track with inflation. The increase in auto prices wouldn't be a problem if our income increased equally.

[@Seriously140]

"invest larger amounts into things that depreciate super fast" This is literally NOT the definition of invest.

[@faroff22]

The new 2024 Tacoma needs the full rear window to roll all the way down like on the Tundra and 4 runner

[@manuelbejarano6121]

Good job guys ! thank you

[@patro9555]

When people talk about torque and horsepower and turbos it gets me every time! I always struggle getting around people driving big trucks and suvs blocking the left lane! And that is in my 2003 vw golf mk4…

[@dierkrieger]

I have an FJ Cruiser, but I need the new 4Runner really bad. You guys are awesome.

[@dtrn750]

This 6th Gen did not disappoint. Looks great!

[@sbs-0055]

I think Toyota has the best vehicle lineup out of all other manufacturers right now.

[@smittysmitty481]

Agreed & sales are up for them in Q1

[@BearMacTX]

@@smittysmitty481 Completely disagree, Ford wins hands down IMO. Toyota doesn't make anything to compete with the Super Duty, Transit Van, Bronco Raptor, F150 Raptor or Raptor R, Ranger Raptor, Mustang Darkhorse and GTD, or the FORD GT!!! Toyotas are neat, but have too much plastic for me. They are definitely trying to catch up, but aren't quite there yet.

[@MrCovert23]

Except for the tundra , No trailhunter trim? The front end needs to be redesigned, and the front lights need to be updated to the rigid amber and white lights

[@smittysmitty481]

@BearMacTX - Time will tell…

[@sbs-0055]

@@BearMacTX don’t disagree just to disagree. How many raptors do they sell? How many Dark horses or gtds do you see on the road? Let’s forget about the GT because there’s less than 5000 made. The pick up truck market is collapsing because nobody has 70k+ to spend on things that are gonna depreciate quickly. Whether you agree or not Toyota is currently the biggest manufacturer in the world.

[@HoneyBadgerFarm]

Can I get the 2.8L diesel engine?

[@jbar5674]

Am I correct when I say the landcruiser and 4runner are nearly identical in almost every way? What's the reason to "upgrade" to the landcruiser? Especially considering the 4runner might have 3rd row seating option when the landcruiser does not

[@sdelcegno]

Better looking better interior kdss system. I’d say the 4Runner is the least buy worthy compared to gx550 base and Land Cruiser. Unless you want just a base 4 runner.

[@user-kc1ld1nq1w]

4Runner released 8 years before Tacoma.. but 1st gen 4R was built off a pickup frame, but not exactly the Tacoma.

[@Tsxtasy1]

It wasn’t that long ago a fully loaded King Ranch F-150 was $41,000

[@remsterx]

Yes and now that’s 4k below average price for new cars

[@Brownkevin7]

It’s because people keep buying overpriced crap.

[@emilianogonzalez4011]

Half the cost of new cars is the tech. A new king ranch is hands free driving with heated/ventilated and massaging seats just to name a few

[@JJacobs107]

Anyone else agree that the Tundra engineers have got to be pissed, every other vehicle in the lineup looks better and has better features lol 😂

[@PROutdoors94]

Almost feels like they HAVE to do a mild refresh soon to keep up.

[@international-arms-dealer]

Squeeze some 35s on that Tundra and it'll look 10x better 👌🏼

[@smrtguy77777]

They are the same engineers. Mike Sweers basically oversees these things. They are tailored to different buyers so the feature set is going to look different.

[@Josh-179]

They just need to change that ridiculous grill. Look at how much better the Sequoia looks.

[@theoutdoordad7395]

@@Josh-179…AND SIGNIFICANTLY improve quality control!! I’d be in the market for one today if it had real Toyota quality.

[@craigmclaughlin7870]

Did they fix the high floor height… for folks with longer upper torsos you always felt cramped or lacked headroom.

[@semidemiurge]

It has been a day and the new look is growing on me. I like it now.

[@1911z4ever]

Thanks for the video. Can you explain why the premium gets full-time 4wd and what it gives up compared to the TRD PRO. Is full-time 4wd available for the TRD PRO as an option?

[@induction7895]

Not an option. One trim in each of 4Rnr and Taco have full time 4wd.

[@jaderhuff81]

All the nurses will be in line to get this 4 runner too

[@nieo777]

😂😂😂

[@josiahburdick4893]

Don’t forget, being a female nurse with 2+ deadbeat baby daddies is a requirement for financing on a 4Runner 😂😂😂

[@TheCXTKRS1]

Am I the only that sees Isuzu VehiCROSS in the rear? Overall I can appreciate what it is and I think it will do a great job carrying on the name. Personally I am more interested in the potential small off roader (some people are calling it the return of the FJ Cruiser) that is supposed to be about the size of the Corolla Cross. Hopefully it comes to the US market.

[@jonathanyoung5448]

Yes! That raked back windshield as well… if only it had body cladding from the door handle down HaHaHa!

[@JF-lt5zc]

Yes! I said the same thing on their other video! It is really off putting for me.

[@matthewtyler5194]

Yes! I knew something didn’t look right

[@azvet]

Thought the exact same thing

[@StrayDog145]

If you take out that center cross bar in the grill I think the front end would look so much nicer.

[@PG-lf3rr]

The black fender flares makes the wheel well look giant and subsequently the tire look too small. Other than the ridiculous floor in the rear I think its nice. Not selling my 2022 Wildtrak 2 door over it though.

[@rednekroketsci]

How does the fold forward rear seat impact lay flat room? Seems like a missed opportunity to have a flat floor that is just a little longer and more people could sleep in.

[@justinstiff5641]

I like this way better than I thought I would especially the short wheelbase

[@4vinylsound]

I hate how they put the buttons right below where the driver and passenger both rest their hands that will affect the drive train and could break the vehicle if pressed while driving.

[@Dk-qf8dd]

Will they sell a lot or just a handful? The cost is going to have a high impact on this.

[@JoseMendoza-rd1lz]

Anyone that knows anything would stay away from jeeps and Branco sports.... I'd pick that 4runner 7 days a week and 365 days a year.

[@1guyin10]

Bronco Sport doesn't compete with the 4 Runner or Wrangler. Wrangler is a better off-roader, but 4Runner is not that far behind and it's a much better daily driver.

[@appalachianpatriot1796]

New Jeeps are trash, had one, it’s gone. I’m happy with my 5th gen and my old Jeep xj.

[@allanvietmeier228]

@@appalachianpatriot1796 100% Agree and just did the same. Had a 2021 4XE that was constantly in the shop. Warranty work and recalls galore. Had a recall on the battery and couldn't use the hybrid portion for 5 months. Doggy POS because it is dragging around a 700 lb battery. My suggestion is stay away from Jeep at this point.

[@austinkeen4577]

Easily one of the toyota videos of all time!

[@Mr.Benson]

What does Toyota have against front tow hooks for it's off road vehicles?

[@jamielegrow4708]

Every video I've seen goes over space in the back seat but not in the drivers seat. I'm 6'1 and found the head height a little low in the front in the current gen. Any difference in the new 4Runner?

[@JhoanMiguel360]

What do you think about leg room at the driver seat between 5 gen and 6 gen please

[@deedspm9]

Glad to see they are using a power tilt wheel. I was pissed that didnt come on my platinum Grand Highlander

[@DrewPeabawls]

I am disappointed they did not bring back a manual transmission for the new 4Runner. I don’t understand why they still do it for the Tacoma but no other else.

[@ewplayer3]

Same. Especially if they’re mechanically the same forward of the B pillar. I can’t imagine that it wasn’t possible. I’d have gone with this over a Bronco if could row my own gears.

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

There is no demand and it reduces mpg. In addition they are unsafe since a missed shift could cause a collision. I’m actually a little shocked that the Taco retained one. I bet it gets dropped after a year or two.

[@camooo101]

Why cater to 1% of the market ? That's why 😊

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

@@camooo101 Manual transmissions aren’t very good for off roading either.

[@davec.3198]

Since when do women want a manual? I'm not saying it's a chick suv but lots of women drive them.

[@IJBCI]

RIP legendary 4Runner 😢

[@patricklawrence2755]

It looks like they did a pretty good job with it. Ive got a 5th Gen and i do like what theyve done, for now. We'll have to wait and see if these 4cyl turbo engines are robust enough to be as bullet proof as the engines they are replacing (V6 and V8). If i were in the buying mood (and might be in the next 2 years), i think i'd just stretch it a bit and step up to a Land Cruiser...Ive lived the T4R life for the past 10yrs...my next vehicle would either be a new LC and throw some 33s on it or a T4R TRD Pro as my plan B.

[@stonepa]

Fun video! So how do I decide between the Land Cruiser and the 4Runner?

[@iamoutofideas13]

Awesome. Still, I'm glad I bought the 2024 4Runner TRD Pro in February. Last of the 5th gens and it should last me another 20 years without hassle.

[@ashwilliams93]

I think you got the better truck. And it's going to outlast this latest generation.

[@choncha23]

Not going to lie, i am super duper jealous right now. Sitting on a 2021 and now I want to trade it in.

[@johnwebb2232]

I like it, but I do see a little of the old Dodge Durango in the rake of the windshield, I would have preferred a little more distinctive look over the Tacoma to separate them both, it's going to be a hard choice, do I keep my 2016 4runner trail, or do I trade her in for a new one.

[@StevenEveral]

I dig the new design. It's a throwback of sorts to the second gen 4Runner but takes some of the design cues from the new Tacoma. The Trailhunter and TRD Pro look good, but I'm sure the Limited version will look really slick as well.

[@cajunqueen1971]

I see a 4Runner and TACO is hubby and I's future! We love our Bronco's, but the price point on these is just so much better! We overland more than offroad, so these would be perfect! Me in a 4Runner and hubby in a TACO! This gives us a year or two for thee hype to wear down!

[@theglowcloud2215]

*hubby's and my

[@NWcpl]

MY big Question. Did they raise the seat and roof line like they did for the taco so you're not seated with your legs straight out for tall folks? and hitting steering wheel getting in and out.?????????????????

[@Royalflushness]

No mudflaps, roof rack or trd exhaust on Pro?

[@bradleymack4583]

These are pre-production.

[@user-up1wy3sy8k]

Are there any photos of the TRD Off-Road trim?

[@joebrito2066]

I’ll take any of them. This entire line up looks great

[@PVo-1111]

I got my TRD OR 4runner in 2018 brand new for $38k. Good luck if I can get that now

[@surfingalien30]

Waiting for my 1st gen Taco to die before buying something new.... currently at 316k miles. Wondering if these newer 4runners can go that distance?

[@farahmedic]

Nice 😺 I love the new Tacoma Trail Hunter! Does it come only in Army Green (which I love on my ‘21 Off-Road)? That TRD Pro 4Runner is beautiful, though! Love that Coyote Tan. Cheers 🍻

[@cocx88]

The side profile is giving me 4th Gen vibes

[@cowboy8727]

Looks great! Worried about the turbo charged 4 and 6cyls vs v8s and v6s though.

[@Livestrong00782]

@TFL you said the Trailhunter is going to be one step below the TRD Pro trim level? Am I understanding that correctly? My top choices so far are the Chevy ZR2 or the Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro, so I’m trying to compare them the most, features, price, etc.

[@MrXerxes]

I wouldn't say below. I'd say comparable cost but different focus. TRD Pro = high speed off-road. Trailhunter = Overland type activities and crawl focused off-roading.

[@Livestrong00782]

@@MrXerxes gotcha, thank you, that helps a lot, overland is definitely what I’m more interested in.

[@lav62000]

What do the buttons do in reference to the rear door/hatch?

[@R_Tower]

Soccer moms and IG overlander boys are gonna love this! Wait till they see it will also come with a “widdle wadder" and woof wack📈💅

[@Moonless6491]

but but but, they need it! They've got to spend 70k cause they have to sometimes go on a gravel road to visit Grandma.

[@cmiles97x38]

They love them stickers and shiny never scratched TRD skid plates.

[@Tactical_Pterodactyl_Knives]

Because no one has ever bought a jeep and only collects ducks and sits in parking lots😂😂

[@mad-meh2719]

If they can afford it, why not.

[@Moonless6491]

@@mad-meh2719 because it drives up the cost of vehicles for the rest of us

[@jessevielleux7889]

Great video guys always love your content! But Man. I am so bummed. Why is there no Manual option for there Trd Off Road and Sport Trims? The Taco gets a manual! They are basically the exact same like you’d said from the driver side door forward! Could you guys ask the engineer what happend!?

[@richardguse3410]

Could Accessory Ready right beside all the aux switches be a clue? With all the crash regs there will never be a removable roof.

[@sgtpepperz25]

I'd be scared to take those pretty new trucks up a real off road challenge, but they look sweet.

[@JoshHallingse]

I wish the larger exterior dimensions translated to more room in the 2nd row (same with the Tacoma). Seems just as cramped as the current variant. Where did those extra inches go?

[@doggo__usa]

"Tall Ho Mode" killed me 🤣🤣

[@RJ-vc2ju]

love it. "The front seat is all the way back" as the rear seat legroom looks short. Moves front seat fwd 1 inch and then sits in driver's seat and doesn't fit LOL

[@groberts1980]

I've always have an affinity for the 4Runner. If I wasn't a Jeep man through and through I would definitely buy the new 4Runner.

[@aaronyoung6903]

Hopefully they are going to have nice mudguards. The front quarter panel and rear bumper are going to be sand blasted!

[@CGLFishing]

Honestly, as a 5th gen owner and a fan of the new land cruiser I didn't expect the 6th gen 4runner to have any real appeal to me. I gotta admit, if I was looking to upgrade I eould have to seriously consoder the 6th gen vs the land cruiser. Not sure thats a good thing for toyota that the two are so similar in size but the 4runner looks fantastic, the gas mileage is going to be sooo much better thsn the 5th gen, and the trail hunter package with the big inverter makes it a ready mad eoverlander from thr factory!

[@damacknificent151]

No information on where it will be assembled? No manual shift 4x4 ?

[@markspence3750]

This is in 4K!!! Finally!!!

[@byronorellana6886]

Do you guys know when the hybrid tacoma will be available?

[@johnmcalisterjr3913]

Nice looking 4 runner.just wondering about the reliability .time will tell hopefully it is a good one I don’t think I would buy the first year see how they be and see the results

[@josephj1234567]

I wanna see the SR5, Sport, and OR. The ones everyone will get

[@edaddyx2hansonjr436]

They're gonna be as base and watered down as the taco. And priced out of this world. SR5 will probably be 50k after dealers order them how they see fit. And seeing as how you can't order from Toyota, the dealers will add expensive packages to the SR5, Sport and TRD OR to put them mid 50s to 60.

[@houseofroos]

Roman, please, it’s TOY-ota not TAY-ota. Rant over. Thank you for the coverage!!!! You guys are great. Dave in Denver

[@user-jm5dw3gm8y]

Actually in Japanese it is TO-YO-TA

[@vincentmurphy9252]

Hey guys since the Tacoma has been out a year with the hybrid motor if that’s the same going in 4 runner can you look into the good and bad so far there must be a few with 30,000 plus on it

[@rickoffermann7156]

Does it have the same front axle disconnect as the Tacoma??

[@75cccroad]

I was originally dead set on getting another 5th gen before they aren’t available anymore however I’ll definitely be getting a 6th gen. I’d prefer a 6 cylinder engine but their turbo 4 isn’t bad. Great review.

[@oliverb5798]

Not reliable

[@tdub25]

@@oliverb5798 doesn’t matter…. the resale value will be so high that if it sucks you can just trade out and not lose your ass

[@kurtburkhardt5862]

Looks pretty cool. May end up with a Land Cruiser. Just seems like they couldn't decide on a consistent style. Lots of bulges,strange body lines and still no metal bumpers or decent rock rails on the TRD pro.

[@ab2abblank607]

Wiil the new 6th Gen 4Runner have KDSS as an option? And will it have hydraulic or electric power assist steering? No hydraulic = No new 4Runner for me.

[@leeraymer166]

No more hydraulic rack. The steering will be electric going forward. I haven’t heard whether any version of the 4Runner gets KDSS but I suspect it will only be offered on the Lexus GX going forward.

[@higg2156]

is the rear seat smaller?

[@NafaratMiyaMiya]

you needed the Jurassic Park soundtrack as you walked up these beasts

[@robsolf]

Great to see the 4Runner get updated, at last. Looking forward to the hands-on vids!

[@J.Young808]

I’m thinking the T4R will be a little better in MPG’s since it’s part-time 4x4 rather than the LC250 full-time 4x4

[@AllenKrughoff]

Was thinking the same thing, 6” shorter will help as well but the front bumper exposes more tire vs the LC. That said, I’m buying the LC!

[@chir0pter]

California is looking extremely green! Is this in San Diego county or the Transverse Ranges?

[@matriximaster]

You will not be allowed to own a vehicle soon.

[@CurtisOsa]

San Diego, they said it in the video

[@spelisha]

Big issues I can see from an engineering and serviceability standpoint: 1. The hybrid powertrain battery not only takes away from rear cargo room substantially without a taller roof line than the last gen, but it drops the spare and the exhaust way down close to the ground. Not to mention, how does one comfortably put hundreds of lbs of gear and drawers on top of batteries - how can you even service it without fully ripping apart your rig? 2. The turbo adds complexity, this is much more of an issue than the hybrid part of the powertrain 3. Looks like at the first glance the fender flares are just cosmetic and the limitations that exist in wheel well arches are still there maybe even worse - for larger tires etc. These shocks are great eye candy but have zero adjustability, no idea if they’re rebuildable, and the springs they come with are clearly not setup for the weight of any light over lander even. Lift height is even lower than TRD pro 4. Brakes look tiny, no upgrade there from what I can see 5. There is less room in the back in every way - especially with sunroof 6. The way the back seats fold is like an LC200, it takes up a ton of space and isn’t nearly as flat as current gen. With a drawer system in back as an over lander, you are neutered in how you can use that 2nd floor as a loading space with the way they fold down 7. I’m sure that onboard air compressor is weak, and I’m even more sure the onboard hybrid 2400W power isn’t pure sine. The current inverters have such dirty power that you can’t even charge a battery backup with them - 400w or 2400w idk about actual power delivery on this thing. Let alone serviceability of it 8. EKDSS not being available is a huge suck 9. Full time AWD Torsen with center locker not being available except on street limited and platinum trims is a huge suck 10. For 8-9 you have to get a land cruiser for both, and neither the cruiser or the limited are setup for serious off road and overlanding. So you can’t have both factory lockers and disconnects and the full time awd and ekdss. I suspect that will be possible in an 85k trail hunter land cruiser trim. Sounds more like a Land Rover to me… Smaller issues: 1. Rear quarter glass wrapping up like that is an accident waiting to happen 2. Power rear door is a nice idea if you don’t mount anything to it and add weight 3. No silly Tacoma suspension seats since it is Japanese made instead of USA 4. 18” factory wheels are too big with too little sidewall and “H!!!” lol passenger car rated “all terrain” tires for the TRD pro - so we still have to change wheels out for 17s and redo the whole thing, so minimum 3k dropped right there 5. The engine sounds like a Camry - rattly and pissed 6. The window is raked so far back with such a high hoodlike that visibility is much more narrow vertically 7. No appreciable size improvement - in fact rear wheel arches intrude as much if not more inwards than before 8. No revision to panhard or multi link system in rear really, in fact bolt diameters look smaller, steel looks thinner, everything looks kinda the same but a little less beefy. I’m sure the metallurgy is better with stronger or more efficient steel and welds though 9. Towing more but with no transmission cooler still 10. No driver side grab handle…guys.. 11. Making a Tacoma refresh and form fitting 4Runner into it is a bit sad Benefits: 1. More efficient frame and body structure 2. Factory lighting, wiring, and at least basic sliders (not sure of durability construction or mounting), skids and suspension 3. Aforementioned oem stuff means holes pre drilled from factory and a larger oem catalogue to order from. The holes will make aftermarket easier - part of the work has been done already 4. Obviously the interior space is more creature comforted and tech upgraded in all ways 5. Power tailgate - I know I said could be a negative but largely a huge positive 6. An adaptive suspension option is cool on street trims, if like the Lexus using electronic adjustment instead of air - it actually is bulletproof 7. Looks and all, but tbh it is very similar to current gen 8. Much more power and torque - as long as your turbo works and battery isn’t dead / electrical system fried 9. Hard to find a whole lot of pros for me over 5th gen, I know it’s ground up new but it feels incremental…

[@pa5587]

You bring up very good points but #5 in smaller issues had me dying 💀

[@spelisha]

@@pa5587 hahahaha 😂

[@jasonlovell3934]

It looks like the Pontiac Aztec designer is still working in the auto biz. There’s a little too much front and rear overhang for me and it would be nice if they brought back a solid front axle.

[@Black_Cats_Of_War]

The 4 runner has sold me now with the automatic lift gate. The only possible deal breaker is wheather it has parking sensors. However, you can get aftermarker sensors so may not be a big deal. This will likely be my next vehicle.

[@stevieray1828]

I'm sure most if not all models will get the parking sensors. My 22 Tundra SR5 has them, my brother's 20 TRD PRO Tundra doesn't have them, new gens have more safety tech standard

[@Black_Cats_Of_War]

@@stevieray1828 Think so, I have been wondering about that. All honda passports come with them. The new fuel efficient engine, power lift gate, and parking sensors will make it hard to pass up.

[@jmyers6175]

They great! I like them all.

[@LesFishingMoreCatching]

It would make more sense to compare the Trailhunter 4Runner vs the Trailhunter Tacoma. And the TRD Pro variants. The Trailhunter 4R has Old Man Emu shocks, and a desert air intake also.

[@ianscorey5293]

Hi chaps……… I’ve just viewed your 4Runner video…… but I had also viewed Doug’s video on the same vehicle….. and both videos failed to mention the fuel source for the 4Runner!!! Is it a petrol or diesel engine or even a krypton powered fuel source???? Please lift your game!!!! Regards Ian 👨‍🎤🇳🇿😎👍👍🍸😂

[@forgedfromfreedom]

There are no diesel Toyotas in the U.S.

[@roberthopkins2494]

TFL is based in the US. Due to very strict emissions, we only get gas powered small engines

[@victoradjei8256]

Please let me know if the hatch glass is still the rolling one as in the 5th gen.

[@jaggededgeoutdoors3334]

Yes it is

[@victoradjei8256]

@@jaggededgeoutdoors3334 thanks 👍

[@MrCovert23]

Glad to hear the 4Runner is still being built in Japan gonna get the 27 4Runner TRd pro over the 27 TRd pro Tacoma