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@kerrywedge6977 Жыл бұрын
Forward momentum is everything when going through the mud!
@DanVoels Жыл бұрын
Yep. Got smug and let off the throttle. Knew it was game over there. 9:17
@billsharko3007 Жыл бұрын
Why not use a descent recovery vehicle? You have a Jeep Rubicon with a winch that would be night and day difference. Nice steady pull and a lot less chance of vehicle damage.
@tylermacconnell217 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Repeatedly yanking with that Honda is going to eventually ruin it. A Jeep would be decent; a PowerWagon would be even better to help get heavier rigs out.
@CherokeeChief. Жыл бұрын
Makes the course look harder and they don’t want to damage the rubicon any. It’s a road queen lol😂
@edits1247 Жыл бұрын
Bronco is any time better than rubicon
@jamesbeaman6337 Жыл бұрын
Their Jeep Liberty would make as good recovery rig also
@user-se5zz3yj9c Жыл бұрын
Perhaps…..they are keeping count of how many recoveries….via Honda …they should $$$ this Team for how many that Rig has tugged and Is still the go to..I use my Talon like a Pioneer to snatch folks stuck all day long…just cause I’ll let it take the abuse over my Power Wagon in parts replacements 👍gets the job done….let it rip and hope it does them well in the Long Game😜
@jimjones8335 Жыл бұрын
Seems like a nice guy, never been through mud before though. Front tires hit the mud, hammer down!
@V8AmericanMuscleCar Жыл бұрын
With a little momentum, he wouldn't even feel that mud.
@steveder3233 Жыл бұрын
That and the hosts don't like it when people drive their course properly. They purposely have them stop in the middle of obstacles and go as slow as possible through the mud sections to get them stuck.
@applebitefool Жыл бұрын
For someone that claims to offroad often, he made a lot of mistakes going though that course. Also, always air down, its a pain in the ass but there was no reason to get stuck in such a mild obstacle with a Raptor.
@ZacharyE Жыл бұрын
Couldn't believe how over inflated tires are.
@undefeatedgaul3201 Жыл бұрын
they have literally zero idea how to do anything.
@MatthewDurant-eh1ov7 ай бұрын
Money don’t buy common sense
@jarrodmcdaniel Жыл бұрын
He made the mistake of letting of the gas and slowing down in the mud and it got him stuck. It looks like if he would have kept steady throttle, he would have made it. You also need to keep the Ram 2500 around as a recovery vehicle with its winch (and snatch block). All that jerking with the Pioneer is going to jar something loose lol
@texandy89 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree with you he would've been able to make if he just used more throttle instead of going slow.
@texandy89 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that side by side could've gotten damaged while pulling out the Bronco Raptor looked like
@IAMTRASHMAN267 Жыл бұрын
I’ve done this course before in my 4Runner and the camera doesn’t do it justice. You have to enter it slow because of how steep of a drop into the pit it is. Otherwise you’ll smash up your whole front end. It’s a conundrum. You need momentum to get through mud but you can’t build any going into the area.
@Matts000 Жыл бұрын
I am 100% sure they where trying to get it stuck. That’s Bronco needs a driver mod ASAP. “When in doubt, throttle it out!!”
@tayloroncars Жыл бұрын
Yep. He wasn't using enough momentum. You never stop in the middle lol
@WhoTFstolemyname10 ай бұрын
tires were highway pressure... says it all.
@TheAdventureKean Жыл бұрын
A little too overconfident in the mud pit. He may have made it if he didn’t hesitate
@KapitanPoop3 ай бұрын
The mud test reminded me of a dentist with a 911 turbo , on his first ever track day….😅
@wdubduece8913 Жыл бұрын
KO2s suck in the mud, it's like wearing bowling shoes lol
@scotianbank4 ай бұрын
Was thinking the exact same thing xD I hate how car manufacturers make these incredible off-road cars, deck them out with a whole bunch of features… Only to ship them out with OEM style AT tires that are only good for mild off-roading (like these KO2s or the GY Territory AT OEM series, among others). Makes it so that the buyer has to fork out more money on actually good tires, after their super expensive purchase… And don’t even get me started on SUVs that have some less extreme off road features, but are still decent enough off-road, but come with HT tires! Those are the types of vehicle that should come with the tame OEM AT tires 😂
@stevevice9863 Жыл бұрын
Colorado mountain trails are not as muddy as most places. If you aren't used to mud it takes some practice. Momentum is your friend in those situations.
@doublebackagain4311 Жыл бұрын
One of the few situations where "Nathan Mode" will work for you lol.
@EGGINFOOLS Жыл бұрын
And 4hi not 4lo
@ryankudebeh2570 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, facts. I have a lot of confidence in my ability to drive dry trails here in CO, but serious mud like that? Wouldn't have a clue. It's no surprise that he got stuck, I think a lot of people who don't drive mud don't really understand or respect it, just like a lot of people coming to CO don't respect or understand the snow. It's knarly stuff, mud. Can tear your whole drivetrain apart in ways dry stuff can't even dream of. I know just enough to have a healthy fear of it.
@poppyneese1811 Жыл бұрын
I respect the owner using the Raptor Bronco for what it’s designed for, I respect the lil ATV, for it’s hard work, but I really respect that tow strap! Great show, all us Ford guys were pulling for you and I’m not sure about the Jeep guys, but off roaders seem to be for everyone getting over the trail and back. A great show!!!!!!!!!
@CherokeeChief. Жыл бұрын
Not sure Iv ever seen a vehicle make that turn in one try with no backup. Wow. That feature really does work well in a pinch
@UPDOG350 Жыл бұрын
I love this! Use that bronco R! But if the drive would have sent it from the start, i bet it would have made it! And mud tires!!! Wish I had a bronco to send it! 😂
@anthonywarren3656 Жыл бұрын
Trail turn is a neat function, however what it ultimately does it just tear up the trail a lot worse for everyone else.
@ripfletching Жыл бұрын
That’s a great vehicle. If he had approached that mud pit with just a little bit of momentum I think it would’ve been no problem.
@bobdennis4801 Жыл бұрын
These are fun videos to watch. But You guys really need to stop using a side by side as your recovery vehicle. Considering what’s in your fleet you have much better options that would make it easier to pull out stuck vehicles.
@109jacosta Жыл бұрын
But it wouldn't be as,dramatic.
@tarfeef101 Жыл бұрын
Yeah something with a little more power and mass would be prudent
@anthonymrskipt9252 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if airing down would have helped. Great all around tires, but they’re not mud tires and airing down really seems like it would have helped. Love to see a rig like this getting used as it’s meant to be used.
@bluceree7312 Жыл бұрын
This is impassable. They should add stones and small rocks into the ruts.
@anthonymrskipt9252 Жыл бұрын
@@bluceree7312- it’s not impassible - I and several others have made it through.
@PGXPPR Жыл бұрын
Yes that would have made a difference
@Uberragen21 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The failure of the Raptor was the AT instead of MT tires.
@josem6929 Жыл бұрын
Failing component was between the seat and the steering wheel.
@SaltyDog69 Жыл бұрын
Living in Louisiana and having to deal with mud like this all the time we generally have to goose it pretty hard.
@therealjasonseidel Жыл бұрын
Also you use high range in a mud hole. You need wheel speed to keep the tires cleaned out.
@sha6mm Жыл бұрын
I think David needs to chain saw the trees out of there close to trail.
@SubashCanapathy Жыл бұрын
Consistent momentum(wheel spin) and better tires (MT) would have made it through. There is no lack of torque or hp in that motor.. This was technique and traction test rather than brawn 😊
@EGGINFOOLS Жыл бұрын
And use 4hi not 4lo
@mad636man Жыл бұрын
Guy looks like Steve-o
@rodjones812 Жыл бұрын
I think it is him
@Maxel1813 Жыл бұрын
He needed Nathan to drive it. Momentum
@melikestuff8389 Жыл бұрын
Great video on a capable vehicle. I think most of us understand that if there is no traction then there is no traction regardless what you're driving. But I am not a big proponent for using 4 low in low traction off roading, it's too easy to spin the tires. 4 Hi will help lug the engine keeping the wheels from spinning and then giving you the option for "momentum". Keep up the great videos.
@IAMTRASHMAN267 Жыл бұрын
I’ve done this course before in my 4Runner and the camera doesn’t do it justice. You have to enter it slow because of how steep of a drop into the pit it is. Otherwise you’ll smash up your whole front end. It’s a conundrum. You need momentum to get through mud but you can’t build any going into the area.
@jeffrentsch4318 Жыл бұрын
Being in the southeast mountains tire spin in mud clears tread. The thought is spin tire dig threw mud get traction either on bottom or sling enuff mud you go forward as opisit and equal reaction to mud flinging. A bunch of vehicles built spicifcly for mud, they are not as capable in sand... generally build for what you wheel.
@TundraTRDOR Жыл бұрын
I disagree about using 4 hi in deep mud like this. You're not gonna get through that mud pit without wheel spin. Wheel spin and maintaining your speed is what gets you through deep mud. Once you stop like this guy did and dig in, your frame and diffs are sitting on the mud, and you're done. If he had aired down and got on it, he would have made it. You can actually see his front tires started climbing back up, and I thought he was gonna make it, and he stopped.
@johnmcalisterjr3913 Жыл бұрын
I had a 79 bronco with 40 inch monster mudders i had a lot of fun never got stuck but went through at least one 9 inch a year..then bought a new bronco every 2 years till they discontinued them great trucks.
@LMBC6Brian9 ай бұрын
You NEVER EVER let the TFL people try to tell you anything about offroading or any car related anything. This is the biggest FARCE of a review channel there is.
@RichtrucktionTv Жыл бұрын
Nathan doing a good job again he was gone for a while that’s how long I been following tfl 😅 back in it!
@alcioniford Жыл бұрын
So cool we sold Dan that Braptor!! ❤❤❤ at MSRP he is the coolest guy!
@adalbertoherrera2339 Жыл бұрын
I’m still waiting for mine since last year 😭
@alcioniford Жыл бұрын
@@adalbertoherrera2339 😪 wished I could get like 5 more atleast i have 3 on my list
@imNotMeWhenimHungry Жыл бұрын
Bruh you came to a complete stop in 3 ft of mud... And you're surprised it got stuck?
@robertbarnes5242 Жыл бұрын
that pioneer man, that thing does work in a lot of videos. The little engine that could.
@danconway660 Жыл бұрын
This guy cut power every time he started to move forward in the mud. Mud is about momentum. Turn the traction control off and stay on the gas and keep the tires moving.
@dennissmith7214 Жыл бұрын
Yup he was just about out the mud then got cocky and wanted to slow up with his “not to shabby” comment then got stuck😂………..not the trucks fault it was the driver! 🤷🏽♂️
@danconway660 Жыл бұрын
@@dennissmith7214 agreed. Never stop in mud until you're ALL the way out!
@filipinovegaslife70 Жыл бұрын
I was gonna say the same thing! 🤦🏻
@EGGINFOOLS Жыл бұрын
They always do that. Especially when offroading with the g80. As soon as momentum starts they stop.. Also 4lo was the wrong choice. 4hi for mud. Wheel speed and momentum for mud
@anibalbabilonia1867 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@RDSZ Жыл бұрын
For a moment I thought was Steve O driving the Bronco Raptor.
@matthewm3912 Жыл бұрын
The "i'll pay anything to look cool and have people envy me" vehicle.
@F.P.E.7211 Жыл бұрын
This might be the dumbest comment on here. You realize how capable this is, right? You sound pretty envious yourself, 🤡
@jakobfolmar6604 Жыл бұрын
Bro don't be butt hurt
@9663mu Жыл бұрын
He got way to cocky pushing those locker and sway bar buttons. 😂 bit his ass
@justinloughrie15 Жыл бұрын
I guess having buttons doesn’t make you a better driver lol
@CherokeeChief. Жыл бұрын
This guy doesn’t have any mud riding experience. He could have backed up and then gone forward and used momentum. And he’s flooring it being pulled out making it worse. This thing is very capable depending who’s behind the wheel.
@stoneycarter7789 Жыл бұрын
You guys need to learn how to go through things in WV we call that a pot hole, 4 low no go 4 high and let it fly
@kervensferdinand669 Жыл бұрын
You guys should do a Hummer ev suv video in a mud like this one.
@RCRitterFPV Жыл бұрын
That Bronco Raptor should have the Coyote... Am I right? I would be hard pressed to stay away from that... little more fit and finish... very cool ride though..
@youtubeIsTrasheffinchingchong Жыл бұрын
Raptor R has it i think
@rcmortyhobbies2567 Жыл бұрын
I like the new bronco but the price is way too high. I have an explorer st with the same engine and transmission with different tuning. Since I don’t off road like that I’m happy
@xcmalvarez4 Жыл бұрын
That utv 🔥 I think I’m more impressed with that! I want one
@Just_Listen785 Жыл бұрын
Ohh, I off-road all the time she does great. Few seconds latER... I think I'm stuck 🤣
@the305hauler Жыл бұрын
Booyah 👊🏽 😁 👍🏽🇺🇸
@WW-wf8tu Жыл бұрын
I think you ought to stop having David do ranch work and get his recovery rig in operation. The Pioneer is not ideal for this weight class. Needed the Ram 2500 down there. Something with anchors and a heavy duty winch would work as well.
@NM-235 Жыл бұрын
Well you found the limits of the all terrain tires for sure. An aggressive set of M/Ts would make a difference
@paulblack5883 Жыл бұрын
Even the most expensive and heaviest off the shelf Bronco available is capable of getting stuck in mud...
@phild9813 Жыл бұрын
Mud tires would’ve helped tremendously. But yeah, anything will get buried in mud.
@jonahfastre Жыл бұрын
I feel like it may have been a skill issue, but yeah you can bury anything in mud
@hmaldonado77 Жыл бұрын
A tank gets stuck too. So.
@philipparana9225 Жыл бұрын
Once you slow down in mud your done.
@bobquattrini1787 Жыл бұрын
Those bronco's are Weak AF!!! Suspension is Garbage too!!
@gopnick Жыл бұрын
Why did he keep stopping? He had the momentum to get through the mud.
@alt9874 Жыл бұрын
I like these videos when it's just Andre hosting (or Tommy). Keep up the great job.
@pabo8080 Жыл бұрын
When you showed in the wheel well the suspension, I noticed a wire with a connector that was exposed,, not sure what it was for. Just wondering if that could be a problem. I mean if your running it hard through bumps, or some heavy mud, it looks like it could be pretty vulnerable and break. Maybe I' m totally wrong, but it did make me wonder.
@gman3563 Жыл бұрын
That's for the coil on the live valve. It's usually tucked away. I would assume it must have come lose. The ones on my raptor are on top of the frame rail and out of the way
@bajalife4ever Жыл бұрын
Well, depends the driver's experience on off roading also, my opinion.
@chevychad Жыл бұрын
BAd mistake stopping in the middle of the mud. In rock crawling it is looked down upon to go fast. Totally opposite in mud, you gotta hammer down all the way thru. I think the braptor could have made it with a better driver. All he did there was make the rut way worse!
@ronpippin4893 Жыл бұрын
Was he aired down? (Didn’t look it.) Wrong tire for the mud for sure. Pulled my neighbor out who ran KO2s a few times.
@kennethjinkins8967 Жыл бұрын
B O R I N G
@РинатМингазутдинов-н8с8 ай бұрын
FORD BRONCO RAPTOR🔥💪😁
@zacariaspiedrasdelrio8984 Жыл бұрын
Very brave guy! I ll be afraid of getting hit with a supermarket cart in a parking lot with so brand new and beautiful vehicle 😂
@randalsweeting661 Жыл бұрын
I laugh everytime someone shows up in all terrain tires and then tries rock crawling the mud holes haha.
@mikes.8305 Жыл бұрын
Enough Mud will stop just about anything. My Bronco raptor jumps at the dunes and does some crawling but it stops right before it touches a tiny mud puddle.
@scotianbank4 ай бұрын
I wonder, how would that same mud obstacle have turned out, if the Bronco Raptor had some mud terrain tires like Yokohama Geolandar MT, or at least some really aggressive all terrain tires like Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT or similar General Grabber or Nitto versions?
@thatguybob8644 Жыл бұрын
Having the turn assist on probably hurt him at cottonwood creeek
@holden8239 Жыл бұрын
It would be cool if they could add some more rock crawl type obstacles to this course for the vehicles that can do them. Just like a bigger rock garden and some rock steps.
@dgw4049 Жыл бұрын
If he airs down to even 25psi i think he makes it through cotton creek. I know he needed the height too, but the wider tire probably helps him float through
@BillyBennecke Жыл бұрын
I didn't hear that he didn't air down until the end. Rookie.
@0223Jeremy Жыл бұрын
Andre is the man !
@alexinnewwest1860 Жыл бұрын
Well the lights are cool
@jabroni6199 Жыл бұрын
That guy will never get all the mud washed away from that bronco lol.
@marcm8209 Жыл бұрын
Need a little more momentum for sure and 2 other things: better recovery vehicle and a yankom/MOOR kinetic energy rope !
@rcmortyhobbies2567 Жыл бұрын
I want the front seats for my explorer st
@janssenmadamba6859 Жыл бұрын
Love this course i wish i can try my tacoma here. I like the content
@jeffhertz2690 Жыл бұрын
Nice Rig!
@squatchwatch5237 Жыл бұрын
Forgive me guy's but i found it hilarious how right after andre said portly little thing it changes to nathan 😂
@eddiedolan50692 ай бұрын
Guy needs to grow a pair!!
@rodneyspencer5158 Жыл бұрын
If everyone wouldn't stop in the middle of the mud whole they would all get stuck just go with the momentum
@68mustangman Жыл бұрын
"tires Cole, is what wins races"
@scottyellis3442 Жыл бұрын
Super nice Bronco, but in mud it needs better tires. BF Goodrich are only good on the road & maybe sand. If he had some super swampers on his Bronco it would've made it through the whole course.
@propertypreparedness6846 Жыл бұрын
Andre is a monster on that Polaris!
@spyder000069 Жыл бұрын
Honda Pioneer. Polaris would have fallen apart after the first tug. LoL.
@steveder3233 Жыл бұрын
Those BFG KO2's are great on sand and rock, but are one of the worst A/T tires I have ever had in mud and snow for the money. Not nearly enough cleanout on the tread pattern.
@Mayflower196711 ай бұрын
That little bronco needs to hit the car wash Asap..🥹
@tylersowa3858 Жыл бұрын
Ford needs to make the oj Simpson Edition pursuit bronco and keep it like the vintage 90s bronco
@underthelibertytree712 Жыл бұрын
Great comment 👍
@RKmndo Жыл бұрын
It needs some SuperSwampers. 😂 Maybe just some SSRs or Trxus MTs would do.
@oneslackr Жыл бұрын
Nah, it just needed momentum. You can't tiptoe through thick mud.
@Jeff-wy9he5 ай бұрын
need a good set of mud tires
@JesseMcDMusic Жыл бұрын
That mud would be hard for any vehicle. I do think if he sent it a little harder he might have made it. Great vehicle though!
@Eric888Lim Жыл бұрын
mud terrain tyres + higher speed and he would have made it
@jakobfolmar6604 Жыл бұрын
For sure. You can't crawl through mud like that, lol. He needed to gun it, and he would have made it.
@pajamastacking Жыл бұрын
you guys need to do an update on the Toyota Tundra please! Off Road Test!!
@therealjasonseidel Жыл бұрын
He definitely found the limit of the driver not the Bronco
@smarticus6384 Жыл бұрын
That is a capable vehicle.
@tarfeef101 Жыл бұрын
Airing down, keeping speed up in the mud would be greatly beneficial And yeah as others have mentioned a heavier and more powerful rig for recovery would be prudent. Especially when ppl are suctioned in to mud, a winch makes things much smoother and safer
@joshuaw2988 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, that guy was way to overly confident with his fancy buttons and didn’t use enough momentum so Mother Earth beat the rookie off-roader lol. Rookies gotta learn the hard way
@davidkallstrom4349 Жыл бұрын
please test a niva or a jimny
@Joe-kx7bl11 ай бұрын
Is this same guy who popped both defender tires?
@R.Kuiper Жыл бұрын
Why you dont use a proper recovery vehicle?
@Coya229311 ай бұрын
I like ford bronco raptors
@abazdarhon Жыл бұрын
Tyres Tyres Tyres. If that bronco will have mud Tyres will go thru. AT are not good on mud but they are amazing on snow
@romanelkadj3207 Жыл бұрын
This, better than a Wrangler? Please don't joke
@wannahit9357 Жыл бұрын
It looks like you guys had know momentum and didn't air down the tires.. Full psi will cause problems in heavy mud.. Makes it want to dig, not climb out.. Same as sand..
@jefftenhave8038 Жыл бұрын
When you have an owner unskilled driver that is what you get. He was likely worried about breaking the 1/2 shafts or tierods.
@deborahchesser7375 Жыл бұрын
OK, now the big question, do I need to refinance my house ? It’s damn nice but jeez that’s some serious cheddar
@ixibladeixi2639 Жыл бұрын
Time to bring the Jeep 392 to save the day with a winch factory installed.
@jaytate491 Жыл бұрын
Mud pit is a test of tire traction and has very little to do with the vehicle. Only way through it would be aired down substantially or use speed.
@jakubstrumillo Жыл бұрын
Thats not safe to use kinetic rope this way, and especially film that from the angles of potential shot if shackle will fail. Especally because its fragile U shackle not C like. Use synthetic shacle next time.
@EGGINFOOLS Жыл бұрын
Stop using 4lo for mud. Theres barely any wheel speed in 4lo which isnt what you want.
@deejayimm Жыл бұрын
I have never understood the need of so many "off roaders" to slowly creep into a mudhole and then stop. Oh no, we got stuck.... No sh*t Sherlock.
@JarradShaw Жыл бұрын
Is it because it is so wide and heavy to pup back, or because he should have “Nathan’d” it moving forward?
@maddogcustomzgarage Жыл бұрын
Gotta have momentum lol, nothing moving that slow will make it through lol