Do EVs Really SUCK Off-Road?

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[@TFLoffroad]

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[@jake-ly]

No wonder Kei trucks are getting popular on farms and light offroad trails. $37k is buying a used Tacoma

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

The sidd by side sector is a total scam robbery

[@derrickschultz6871]

37k... lol, not worth it

[@derrickschultz6871]

Its an adult power wheels.

[@derrickschultz6871]

That should get a roof with a windshield and hvac for that money.

[@derrickschultz6871]

But... that thing is quiet on the trail. Thats the way to explore nature.

[@steinwaymodelb]

They can charge that because there's no competition. I expect prices will adjust once others enter that segment. That said, the prices of all side by sides are crazy.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

@@steinwaymodelb 37k is already the price of a quite well optioned toyota camry lol...

[@who2u333]

So trucks are $80k+ and a toy is $40k+.

[@freedomisntfree_44]

Nah you can get the same ranger but gas for around 10-11k 😂 I paid 16k for a 1000

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

@who2u333 welcome to the new world order. You will own nothing and like it. The system works well. Just look at Venezuela...

[@justwideman]

Costs more than my Ford Ranger that is street legal with windows and doors and 400 mi of range

[@BobbyLockett]

Been hunting on a lease for a few years with a guy that’s been using an electric sxs. When you need to get out quickly and quietly this is absolutely the best. I’ve had one on my list for years but they are expensive compared to the gas’s counterparts. However less maintenance is a big selling point. I’m excited for the future of these.

[@Norwisco]

The price of sxs are getting insane

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Robberies 110%. At this point theyre just trying to rob people. No way that junker costs anywhere near 37k to make i think they make em for about 15k. Clownshow

[@galactictomato1434]

Because people are paying these crazy prices.

[@wannabeangler]

For that price you may as well buy a Jeep and never worry having fuel with you.

[@billredding2000]

I did get a Jeep (gas engine)...have zero interest in anything EV, even a hybrid. -- BR

[@wannabeangler]

@@billredding2000 Nice! Batteries get hot and cold then quit working! Jerrycans help keep you moving!

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

​@@wannabeanglerjust put some electrons in a jerry can and keep going...😅

[@billredding2000]

@@wannabeangler ...I also don't like the gov't (liberal Green Agenda foolishness) telling me what to buy or not to buy. I decide that. Oops...no Jerry Cans here but I do have 2 RotopaX gas containers (red ones) and 2 more for water (white ones). ;-) -- BR

[@matthewgoedtel5998]

​@@billredding2000 😂 I should probably buy stock in the parent company of Renolds Wrap with comments like that.

[@etb4272]

I would love having an EV SxS--quiet, low maintenance... but not at that price.

[@Cloud30000]

One of the best parts is that you can park it for a few years, then grab it and go without worrying about the gas or oil going bad or the belts drying\cracking, with the tire condition being the only thing you really need to keep an eye on.

[@JJSmith1100]

Just make sure the battery gets a bit of charge. Maybe a solar panel or two to park it under.

[@caseyberry6959]

Interesting point

[@Rom3_29]

Belts and brake’s hydraulic fluid life.

[@rogerholland316]

Thanks for your effort guys! It's apparent you work your tails off to give us entertaining and informative content. It is appreciated.

[@TFLoffroad]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@thestrange_1]

While I'm impressed with the capabilities of an EV side by side, I think I'll let the early adopters pay the exorbitant $37k. I'm happy to wait for them to come down to a more reasonable price. As it stands now, you're not getting double the capabilities but you're paying about twice the cost of an equivalent gas model. Those economics just don't make any sense.

[@Mixwell1983]

$37k is midsize truck territory.. Fk that, id rather get a honda pioneer and use the extra $15k for gas😂😂

[@CS-tj1rc]

$37,000!? I just bought my wife a new small AWD SUV for way less than that. Who can afford a side by side that costs more than the vehicle they drive?

[@Cloud30000]

The top 10% who get richer everyday, which is who these are marketed towards.

[@WhaddupImJohn]

Just get a used one

[@ShippyJack]

This SxS was less than half the price of the tow vehicle.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

​@@ShippyJackabout 1/3

[@zeedustrakok]

Don’t think these things are aimed at people buying sub 37k cars.

[@Jeeper_Creeper03]

Who can afford any of these new sxs or trucks for that matter. I know with my 45 hour week job and BS degree I can’t.

[@SP-wk1en]

Aw, c'mon man. Just take out more loans. This is 'murica!

[@RobertEdwards-q6t]

Degrees are bs

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

What are you using your BS for? I’m an engineer and doing well.

[@SP-wk1en]

@@KZbinuser1aa sanitation engineer?

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

@@SP-wk1en systems engineer

[@Mixwell1983]

The argument still is that eventually batteries degrade over time, something like a Honda sxs could last a couple decades easily with regular maintenance where as an ev likely won't.

[@Queensizemusic]

That’s not true. If you maintain the battery properly, you should get decades of serve from this vehicle.

[@jasonhanson6563]

You just gotta bring a really long extension cord. I saw it on an episode of Garfield.

[@ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation]

HAHAHA WTF $30-46,000 Dollars

[@Stackali]

27 miles and only used 13%? thats alot of percent for only 27 miles.

[@Dusdaddy]

Nice EVs. One suggestion on your load-out. What you do works but better to run the SxS tie-down straps straight forward and straight back, not crisscrossed. Also, connect as close to the center of the wheels as possible. That way the machine can bounce on the suspension without stressing/loosening the straps.

[@8ball_998]

The price is insane. We paid that for a new model three just last year. I've had several SxSs and currently have a 24 KRX 1000. Sport machine with 22" of wheel travel and it was almost half the price of this Ev Ranger. I just don't get the market for these other than avid hunters with DEEP pockets. Most hunters don't need much more than a golf cart with 4wd and some decent suspension. Even the base model of this is really expensive compared to ICE models.

[@natecurrier]

I was on Dude I Love My Ride, and we did that trail in November with the red Forester. That last section around 25min mark was scary, as the whole trail was snowy/icy and the water pits were icy and just as deep! Awesome vid!!

[@TFLoffroad]

Good stuff

[@kellenmcintyre9221]

And what trail was that?

[@natecurrier]

@@kellenmcintyre9221 they’re on the Caribou Rd, near Nederland, CO

[@ryangansner2162]

37k USD? I can only imagine what this thing costs in Canada...

[@simonduzz]

Could you imagine having to charge a SxS for 3 hours? You couldn't even go anywhere, I can hit any gas station and be on my way in 5 minutes. This is an over powered golf cart.

[@Roll-With-It-7]

For the cost it makes no sense to get an EV truck that will never perform as good, You can get a better truck for the price of the side-by-side that can actually tow 500 miles or more on one fill up.

[@SP-wk1en]

So what actual problem are we solving with this combination?

[@Queensizemusic]

Emissions. Noise. Fossil fuel consumption.

[@stepfour]

Who the F wants to worry about how much charge you have and if you can make a trip all the time... F that!

[@Roll-With-It-7]

I kinda like the sound of the side by sides most sound pretty decent especially when you want to go fast.

[@konradchristen]

As someone who off roads in the Colorado mountains and grew up riding dirt bikes. I can’t fathom the side by side market for off roading (EV or not) To “ride” a SXS you need a truck, a trailer, and then oh yeah 20-30-40k for the actual SXS. Okay so maybe you live on a farm or buy/sell cars for fun so you can justify and use the truck and trailer for yourself. Sweet. You own those to. Now do you buy a Jeep? An LR3? A Taco? 4Runner? Samurai? Rocky? 4 dirt bikes? Heck a used JL fits in the upper end of the budget there. And you decide “you know what I need? Something that isn’t road legal and must be trailered to my fun site”? Just doesn’t add up. SXS’s are for rich folks

[@chioxin]

I guess with the side by side, 80 miles is enough? I don't do that yet, but it's a hobby I'd like to get into. The one thing I'd say gas has an advantage with is... when you're out of gas, you can easily bring another can or two with you. With a battery you gotta go back home or find a charging station out in the mountains. How often is that a problem?

[@planesandbikes7353]

Will be nice in the future when enjoyment of the wilderness is not being ruined by noisy ICE engines, but still accessible with EVs

[@quixomega]

I think this is the only EV off-roading video I've watched where the EV performed well.

[@davidrudd9846]

37 grand?? LOL Joke?

[@krisw8597]

After reading the comments, people are just tired of high prices. Manufacturers stop, just stop asking too much for your product. We have enough of greedy dealers out here in the real world. 37k for a fixed up golf cart is just to much. I know the gas version is not much cheaper but in reality they are also over priced…. If more people would quit going into stupid debt…. This madness will eventually come to an end…

[@davidmurray1630]

That Polaris is the most impressive vehicle I've seen on the channel lately! Too bad it's so overpriced. Great video content!!

[@Queensizemusic]

I love it. Being an EV makes this incredibly attractive

[@nickvan4514]

Lol. It weighs about 2,000 lbs, so if you set it down on a rock, "It is not like you are putting a ton of weight on it."

[@alvarovillegas2407]

Love this duo, great video guys

[@TFLoffroad]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@mark.polo24]

I've been loving the upgrade to DJI hardware with the osmo pockets and mics! Big production quality boost!

[@americanrambler4972]

Who knew the price of going green and clean would be double or more the price of going noisy and dirty. The price of the batteries and associated tech still has a long way to go in affordability.

[@vinnyc7142]

Great video guys. To the EV fans, explain to me how you charge your EV ATV at your cabin that doesn't have electricity for a extended weekend? And who can afford a $35k+ toy...

[@ertatta]

Pretty cool video being that I love when you guys get up in the mountains & Forests. That Polaris is insanely capable out there. I’d be curious to know what the kw/hr consumption on the Tesla translates to on the wallet for this trip. Pretty cool though that on the return trip you used less than 20% of your range. Neat technology even though I can’t afford it!

[@Cloud30000]

That cost only matters if paying to charge on the road; if charging at home, it’s insignificant. Maybe a couple dollars.

[@rswart14]

Aerodynamics are less at play at lower speeds. Weight is absolutely a factor.

[@caseyberry6959]

He said, "it weighs 2000 lbs so if you come down on a rock it's not like you have a ton of weight on your skid plate".... Yes it is haha

[@johnnycomelately4257]

Imagine spending $40,000 on a sxs that sounds like a Phisher Price electric car for children.

[@freedomisntfree_44]

I’ll take my ranger 1000 over the ev one anyday

[@caseyberry6959]

I've seen a few these Tesla truck videos, I'm not being negative but a lot of them make excuses for it. Yeah it only tows for 90 miles but there's a hill, or elevation, or etc etc. I just don't think they are where they need/should be yet. And I am a little concerned where all the batteries are going go to when used up.

[@csuengr]

I hate side by sides on the trail. I almost had a head on with one because they were flying around a blind curve on the wrong side of the road. I also spend a good hour waiting for groups of them because they think they own the trail.

[@davidhillbrand2302]

Quiet off roading would be a big change from the conventional OHV!

[@stacksmasher]

YYYEEEAAAA! OK I have new respect for you guys since you took it all the way to the nasty part of the trail! Great video!!

[@matus201]

So the cons is that the steering is too good, and now you have the ability to screw stuff up? I don't think that's a con. That's a plus.

[@coreywall4270]

This is just ridiculous.... it's essentially a fancy golf cart that costs 37k.

[@yorelescovar2716]

Price is ridiculous.... you can buy a BYD yuan pro /atto 3 and have 9k to spare ... that polaris should be at most 15k ... but polaris is like the Rolls-Royce of this vehicles types... waiting on big Chinese brands to enter this segment

[@scottdunn1371]

Nice video guys. I don’t want an EV but you did a good job being balanced on the review.

[@FlockoftheGreyShepherd]

Hah you guys swamped that thing, definitely put it through its paces!

[@Apoplectic_Spock]

For half the price, I can throw an eight-inch lift on a used Nissan Leaf.

[@surferdude4487]

Yes, the Cybertruck can haul truly huge loads, but, not very far.

[@CrumResearch]

Didn't charge the Ranger from the Cybertruck... Next time try it, please. Shouldn't be a problem though, right?

[@zackgarduno8508]

I definitely would not see myself spending that kind of money on the electric ranger, but it is pretty cool how quiet this one is. Gas is still the route I would choose, but it is fascinating seeing how far electric vehicles are getting capability wise.

[@psychology2217]

I thought the video was going to be off roading the cyber truck more.

[@USUG0]

or, you can take a used leaf/i3 and a used atv. swap the components a get a monster off roader for less than 20k. You could even get a used i3 rex, and forget about range anxiety!

[@Cloud30000]

Sure, if you know enough to do it yourself which hardly anyone does. Finding someone capable of doing it will likely cost far more, as many of TFL’s conversions have demonstrated.

[@USUG0]

@@Cloud30000 not really. Those on TFL were made with new custom components, Here you would just have to move the components from the car to the atv. One adapter plate to connect motor to driveshaft and two water tight boxes for battery modules and electronics. More, rich rebuild style. Then, if you are DIY inept, no point.

[@danielduncan256]

What if Tesla made a different truck? Use the underpinnings of the cyber truck and just put a more normal/usable body on it. Still could be uniquely Tesla, but not so polarizing.

[@efeezhee4088]

Wow great review! I wasn’t expecting a review on a Polaris EV!

[@off-roadingcars]

Go watch Out of Spec, they took their Cybertruck on extreme offroading

[@jimsomerville3924]

Love the electric UTV. Gas ones are so annoying. Cost is prohibitive though.

[@troybloomquist3905]

Adventure needs for most of us mean more than a 100 mile trip. EVs don't get it done.

[@jamesonpace726]

I really like this thing, until we get to the $$....

[@wb3550]

That price for the side by side is ridiculous. I got a used 2018 JL Wrangler Rubicon in 2021 for $44k. Let the recession proceed and see what these prices do.

[@TheJHP3]

That price is intense. But if you have the money to afford it I would be interested

[@PatrickRich]

@28:32 anyone else getting powerwheels vibes?

[@s.b.2088]

That was my first thought too! The only difference between men and boys is the size of their toys.

[@jaytate491]

No thanks. I don't want to spend 40k to pull my 10k jet ski 500 feet from the dock to the house.

[@islandlazy99]

To answer the question. Yes.

[@Mixwell1983]

I think for people who like to lease vehicles all the time an EV is a good option because it's not long enough for the battery to take a dump and you can keep leasing newer option vehicles.

[@CrumResearch]

Bring on the less expensive knock-offs with beefy suspension with lots of travel. 30 kWh seems like a good battery capacity for a side-by-side.

[@qdog494]

Electric side by side would actually be pretty useful around our farm…but the price needs to be comparable to the gas engine

[@elliottlee1050]

Wait!! Did Alex & other spot the ever elusive Big Foot?? Seen at 23:52 & again before running into the forest 24:07 - the Yeti aside, I think it's Awesome! Think would be fun where we currently are in the🌎 Brooks Range. We have more boats then these things. Do I think it spendy for most? Sure. But, you all regularly test outrageously priced diesel trucks too. At least this has a lot of purpose out in the wilderness & its Quiet! Most "shots" I'm trying to get are with my NikonZ9😂 or now RED. So getting to a spot quietly minus the old way, using my 2 feet. Would be nice.

[@ShippyJack]

Range aside, how long were you wheeling for in the side by side? If it was an hour to do the 9 miles of rough road, and used ~20% then you could run it like that for 5 hours, which seems pretty good.

[@michaelhenry-hurst2787]

This comment goes for ALL cars with large touch screens or screens in general, they get soooo dirty and covered in dust so quickly you always need to have a small cloth in ya car and just quick wipe most days to keep clean and or dust free

[@roguedogx]

Before watching- they actually have amazing potential, provided you aren't going very far. So I guess the answer is "yes, but..."

[@darrensatterfield25]

This whole concept is just a joke. People like the noise SXS's make. Nobody wants them quiet. Also 50% of your range to go 50 miles is an absolute disaster. 😂

[@edcoffeebean]

24:04 Was that a Colorado Big Foot?

[@bobpurcell5662]

"Not a ton of weight" NB 2000 lbs is literally a ton of weight. Aside from that nitpicking, nice vid. But $40K US for this?

[@RCRitterFPV]

If I had too much money... sure... I'll take 3

[@jdotsalter910]

I picked up a used Rav4 prime with 40k mi for less that this.

[@vancity_coaster]

As a trail goer, I wonder if we will see an uptick in collisions. I rely heavily on hearing a machine coming in tight trails. Hopefully the road noise and the machine falling apart under you carry’s well.

[@RobertJLessard]

Don't need to watch video answer is yes.

[@2151abell]

I dont see how the masses are enjoying this kind of lifestyle at these rediculous prices. And the fact is, their not.

[@brycechapman5529]

But is the trailer electric? You’ll understand in 5 years…

[@Tallperson_04]

Has the frame broken yet?

[@fredmertz3837]

So what happens if you run out of range in the middle of no where?

[@Jpaxart]

Same situation when you run out of gas in the middle of nowhere

[@aussie2uGA]

Hook some solar up and come back in a few days.

[@chriszaiser]

​@Jpaxart gas can vs. ????? Not the same at all.

[@Jpaxart]

@@chriszaiser bring a portable generator I guess? I’m guessing eventually when these electric vehicles get even more and more popular there’s going to be more solutions to fix the problems of running out of energy, just like gasoline when they first came about.

[@PheonixRises2040]

Low testosterone comments in this thread

[@cjspags4222]

37k i would rather buy a 5 or 6 xj or yj jeeps and you can drive to places without towing them .

[@fredmertz3837]

How does running the heat or AC effect the range of this cyber truck? In the middle of nowhere how do you recharge? I work herding trials in rural VA and sorry most of the farm owners dont have charging available since extension cord would need to be a mile plus long. Generator isnt deasible. I work from 7am to 6am in temps ranging from a 100 F at 10am with a dew point of 75 in Jul to mid 20's with a wind child near zero or below. So its nice to either warm up or enjoy the AC between runs. 200 mile round trip from home to field and backbut if I need to run HVAC how does it effect range. There are no commercial recharging places on the route currently. I take a 2025 Land Cruiser

[@nathanm8921]

Sounds like an ev isn't for you buddy. Mayb the Silverado ev but even then if you can't charge overnight you're stuck running ice

[@fredmertz3837]

@@nathanm8921 Not with the current range and cherging times and availibility. EVs are grea t for urban dwellers and folks living in close in burbs. They dont work well for rural dwelling Americans. We need choice and not government mandates. The govt the governs the best is the govt that governs the least.

[@danharold3087]

@@fredmertz3837 Grew up working on a working farm. One of the most common problems I heard from my father was the cost of fuel. A BEV pickup like the CyberTruck would have worked great and we farmed up to 30 miles from the farmstead. Electric hauling grain would have been fine too. The tractors and combines were the largest fuel users. It might take 10 or 15 years but farms and ranches will be nearly all electric. Simple economics.

[@fredmertz3837]

@@danharold3087 Farmers and ranchers need choices not govt mandates. I got no problem with folks having choices and it will take probably 20 years for the technology to be viable on a 100,000 acre sheep ranch. And the farmer or rancher will always need ICE vehicles as back up. Dont forget more EVs means more power plants which means higher costs for electricty. Nothing is free. EVs also need to pay thier fair share of road use taxes etc since they are heavier and cause more wear. There are no free rides. Got to pay the man. THe man always wins.

[@Cloud30000]

@@fredmertz3837if we charge EV’s more for road use, then we charge pickups more for road use as well since they are also heavier. Be careful what you wish for.

[@RobertJLessard]

Ah a sxs the terrible option between a truck and atv.

[@zeedustrakok]

It has its purpose. In my previous job we had a few on a site we managed. The site has quite a big protected forest that needs to be inspected. The vehicles on site were lifted Toyota Hilux pick-ups and UTV’s. The UTV’s are better offroad, smaller and damage the ground less. After getting a hilux stuck a few times and needing an unimog to get it out the patrols were usually performed by a utv.

[@RobertJLessard]

@@zeedustrakok an atv can go more places. 2 atvs is less than one sxs. Just don't see the point.

[@advapp]

Personally I'm not a fan of putting the American flag on clothes and all this shit and wearing it around, however that rap does look cool.

[@Kevin-xy3yr]

Boy a lot of hate in the comments for EV My assumption is you have never driven one, two your a hypocrite as you have spent $1000 or more on red or yellow Battery pack tools. Price and range are the only real "issues" When battery capacity doubles and charging time is cut in half most IC vehicles will no longer be competitive

[@ThiagoMarquardt]

In 10 years all combustion car will look underpowered and expensive compared to ev. Twice the battery capacity and half the actual battery cost is enough to set new standart.

[@VJ-ft2xj]

Its not going to happen. If you cut charging time in half you have to more than double the current supplied. No one can fast charge at home because level 2 charger is the best a house can supply. We dont have the infrasteucture and won't in our lifetimes. Rapid battery charging is just the tip of the iceberg. Also, if i could run my tools off gasoline, i would!

[@mikek5298]

@@ThiagoMarquardt😂

[@1234ilikethumbwar]

Looks like we found the shill boys… get out of here with your nonsense silly goose.

[@Cloud30000]

Good luck selling to the ever-increasing population of renters without home charging as big companies are buying out many homes.

Depends

[@efibendor1]

Overpriced golf cart

[@paulbram2]

Where is your Rivian to compare it to?

[@zachlafond2652]

That is insanity for the cost of that atv.

[@ProfessorNugget]

🤣🤣🤣 no way i ever buy an electric 4 wheeler the trucks suck imagine needing to lug a generator to ur polaris in the woods cuz it died cuz it got cold that night 🤣🤣🤣