The only thing I don't like about this KZbin channel is that they have no experience under the hood or don't understand the purpose of the machines the manufacturers build for certain models. If you look at there Canyon AT4 here its almost 10k cheaper than the Colorado ZR2 he's talking about, so why would they compare them when the price is so far apart in this category. The truck wont have the suspension or lockers that the ZR2 has. Also to be making reviews they should at least have someone who knows how to actually drive and doesn't make constant excuses that goes for ALL of TFL's reviewers. People want honest true reviews, not "I'm too pussy to drive up a slight 4 foot rock with plenty of grip because I can't keep my foot steady." Just my opinion. If you stayed to read this long thank you for your time.
@bwarren2283 жыл бұрын
GMC: We need to make the AT4 more competitive, but our budget is $50. Let’s just remove the air dam and add a Pep Boys exhaust tip. BRILLIANT!
@MountainHobbler3 жыл бұрын
🤣 nailed it
@mikefoehr2353 жыл бұрын
Now wait a minute here...you forgot the RED tow hooks and to save weight....no hitch receiver.
@crazyeyez15023 жыл бұрын
@@mikefoehr235 to be fair, that truck just doesn't have the optional tow package.
@tyrsafray46403 жыл бұрын
Too damn funny man! 😂😂🤣
@tyrsafray46403 жыл бұрын
@Mike, I hear you.. what’s up with this inane fascination with “red” tow hooks? And a hitch without a receiver but includes the breakaway chain mounts?
@Doc.64663 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the fact that the “special edition” wheels for this truck are stock Colorado rims painted black....
@henryroop36713 жыл бұрын
Idc I still think that look good
@Williampigg18533 жыл бұрын
Rims identical to the midnight edition Colorado🤷🏻♂️
@musselsmarinara85032 жыл бұрын
GM has been doin that forever. I was told in the 60s chrome trim in some of their run of the mill cars was an option but every car had it, u just had to peel the stickers off the chrome.
@denverbasshead3 жыл бұрын
The sound of the keys jingling around is a must when your offroading lol
@great07893 жыл бұрын
That new AT4 looks EXACTLY like the upgraded 18' Z71 I currently possess... I removed the air dam (Free upgrade) Painted recovery hooks red (Free since I had brake caliper paint) Installed sliders off of a new ZR2 ($300 shipped) Installed OEM skids for non-ZR2 trucks ($330 shipped) Total = $630
@MountainHobbler3 жыл бұрын
I will keep my ZR2 with front and rear selectable lockers and those sweet DSSV shocks. It has become trendy to bash on the interior but really there is nothing wrong with it. Push button start would be nice, so would two way memory seats.
@karlschwaber70063 жыл бұрын
I love my ZR2 also. I have never driven a vehicle that is so good on and off road. And I have the tuned diesel and without my trailer I get around 28mpg highway even with my larger K02 tires.
@Jasmurray873 жыл бұрын
Because everyone wants fancy lavish interiors now for whatever reason. They forget these are trucks the interior should be functional and easy to use and that’s what these are. The GMC even come with a soft dash and panels to me it’s fine till the next gen comes out.
@billredding20003 жыл бұрын
@ Mountain Hobbler: My ZR2 (Sand Dune Metallic color) is arriving soon ("In Transit" to John Elway Chevrolet, Englewood). I'll probably keep it, too. ;-) -- BR
@MountainHobbler3 жыл бұрын
@@billredding2000 Grats so far almost 3 years and she has been a sweet truck.
@karlschwaber70063 жыл бұрын
@@Jasmurray87 I totally agree with you . My truck has carpeting but I would much rather just have rubber mats. I wheel a lot in the sand so carpeting is stupid.
@auroralance85463 жыл бұрын
You’re better off with the ZR2 for the money. The GMC is just a fancy Z71
@johnspierce3 жыл бұрын
Not if you are towing a 5,000 lb wet trailer. Depends on your use case
@restoriabathtubs76253 жыл бұрын
I wonder why GM is so hard headed when it comes to a rear locker
@thehaydonsmith16873 жыл бұрын
That’s a good question😂 maybe because they think people won’t buy it if it has a locker or it isn’t worth a rear locker... I also wonder if they are trying to stay out of the full size off-road-pickup market and stick to “luxury” and heavy hauling
@Makemydayoutdoors3 жыл бұрын
@@thehaydonsmith1687 heavy hauling? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 their "heavy duty" line is by far the worst in towing capacity.
@gotchagoing88433 жыл бұрын
@@Makemydayoutdoors Sadly, that is true.
@EGGINFOOLS3 жыл бұрын
@@Makemydayoutdoors No it's not. The 1500 is 13200 and the HD dually is over 35k. Lay off the pipe
@EGGINFOOLS3 жыл бұрын
This wasnt a locker issue. It has a locker. This was Tommy not turning off traction control
@MrPziddy3 жыл бұрын
Love some morning coffee and TFLoffroad.....The separate key and fob is kind of weird in a 2021 GMC no?
@dmegahan3 жыл бұрын
I think extremely weird for any brand after 2015
@Makemydayoutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@frh-freerangehuman3 жыл бұрын
@@dmegahan my buddy has a suburban and he showed me the fob and said I think it’s 1986...
@ttamcc.46743 жыл бұрын
Same here man 😂 got me a cup too
@DH-mf2lv3 жыл бұрын
Tommy, being separate (key & fob) it is actually less discomfort while in your pant pocket. I can tell you from experience. I had a 99 Silverado (separate) and now a 19 Tundra (key/fob) combined. Great review!
@northerntoyota75843 жыл бұрын
In Canada that’s slightly more than a zr2. I ask why? This is not even close to as good as a zr2
@mikemissouri51523 жыл бұрын
Exactly. it’s more then the ZR2 in the states too. I can’t believe this doesn’t come with a hitch and matching full size spare tire and wheel like the ZR2. This truck should be 8k less then a ZR2 to even start to make sense.
@Lon10013 жыл бұрын
Canyon is supposed to be a slightly more luxurious version than Chevy (like Lincoln vs Ford), so pound for pound GMC always is more expensive... but I fail to see why they deliberately make them less capable than the cheaper sister.
@johnspierce3 жыл бұрын
I see a ton of people complaining this is not a GMC "ZR2". I say if you want a ZR2, BUY a ZR2. This is a milder off road truck which would suit many people. It has great towing, it's comfortable and it's geared towards people that use it as commuter, hauler, off-road and toy hauler. What's bad about that? BTW, if you are towing, the ZR2 has a 5000 GVWR and this has a 7200 lb GVWR, so again -- it depends on your use case. Having said this, I think the "performance edition" of the AT4 is mostly an appearance package and is overpriced. It's a $3195 option and it contains: 17" gloss-Black aluminum wheels Spray-on bedliner All-weather floor liners Black AT4 badges Front leveling kit Black chrome exhaust tip Performance Front skid plate Performance Mid Skid Plate Off-road rocker protection Removal of front air dam The wheels: I like them. But the stock AT4 wheels are just as nice and it kind of feels like they are charging you "twice" for the wheels, right? It's not like these are high tech expensive wheels, they are just are the same wheels the Z71 has used for several years as an option+ painted black. IN the video, he mentions the Duratrac tires several times and I'm a fan -- but they come stock on the AT4 model, it's not part of the "performance edition". Removal of the air dam: Takes ten minutes. If you go to GMC's website and price out all of these options separately, it costs $1895 with the sole exception being the front leveling kit which doesn't have a price on their website. So they are charging over $1300 for two spacers per shock in the front to give you a 1" lift. You could do everything they put into this package and keep the original AT4 wheels and be under $2000, which is what I would do. ZR2's look really cool, but this is more useful as an all around truck and mild off roader.
@crazyeyez15023 жыл бұрын
DO NOT use those trailer safety chain loops as recovery points!!!! It has been tried (not by me), and they DO NOT hold. They are for safety chains when towing via a ball on the bumper. THEY ARE NOT RECOVERY POINTS.
@WALL-E5593 жыл бұрын
You can’t beat manual locking diffs. I’m not a big fan of the G-80.
@stufoo3 жыл бұрын
Not very familiar with it myself, but from what I saw, it almost looks like more of a liability than anything.
@richfarfugnuven63083 жыл бұрын
No one is...
@stephendee78393 жыл бұрын
I like the G80s for their economy and effectiveness. I thought that Tommy ' s line into the obstacle was obtuse. He could've done it by moving right two feet.
@sothickitssickk3 жыл бұрын
Ford or ram manual?
@WALL-E5593 жыл бұрын
@@stufoo IMO, it would be safer for you and the truck to have manual locking diffs. I don’t want to break traction and have my wheels spinning for the diff to lock.
@theirthereandtheyre29473 жыл бұрын
Spare tire hangs too low. 4wd knob could be confused for headlights. Ball mount on bumper instead of a receiver hitch. It’s like GM purposely hamstrings its products.
@ALMX5DP3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, two of those gripes are remedied with time and option box check mark.
@ALMX5DP3 жыл бұрын
@@C10sRule no argument there, it is still more appearance than function. Just wanted to provide some balance as many here in the comments section seem to be all or nothing in their approach.
@crazyeyez15023 жыл бұрын
Yea, that truck just doesn't have the optional tow package
@HardHeadMilitary3 жыл бұрын
Garbage
@Vern.Anderson3 жыл бұрын
Tommy there's a hole in the bumper for the trailer ball and it has a plastic plug there from the factory. however, if you look underneath that is reinforced by that steel plate you were touching with your hand just above the safety chain points.
@red67433 жыл бұрын
As a ZR2 owner, holding the traction control button for 10 secs turns it off and stops its intrusion. I didn't hear that you did that.
@Jason-ze2si3 жыл бұрын
In the canyon or Colorado in 4 low it automatically turns it off and I believe tommy said he was I. 4 low.
@antonym243 жыл бұрын
Does this on alot of Chevy cars, my 13 Cruze does the same do. I call it "Race Mode" lmao
@raevennull3 жыл бұрын
It looks like the rear hitch assembly is made for a ball-through-bumper setup. It would be like the old bumper pulls, but actually has the crossmember underneath to support the bumper. They may have done it for clearance/departure, but I think the chain attachment points would be a problem on their own.
@Steelviper613 жыл бұрын
Nailed the comment at the end Tommy, "Mild to Medium Offroad" capability. Not everyone needs the be all end all. Good job man!
@garbinator093 жыл бұрын
I own the older AT4, I refer it as my Subaru with a low range. I expect nothing approaching jeep-like rock crawling, even sand and mud conditions More built up rigs can do. I explore using common sense, and merely have fun until I think terrain gets too risky and well, thats that. So far, I’m staying stock except removing my air dam. I might change the factory shocks in time. What brand they’ll be who knows? Months ago I tried to go with Fox 2.0 and supplies were not available. Thank you Pandemic.
@austinandannah53573 жыл бұрын
Your odds on hitting the gas tank are so low. You have more of a chance smacking your rear shaft.
@mikeymancha25943 жыл бұрын
8:12 you can see the g80 do it’s job relatively smoothly (especially since it had one wheel in the air and the other tire chocked by a loose rock) looks like tommy felt the truck roll over that loose rock, and then he got spooked and decided to turn around.. i think the truck was ready for more and tommy wasn’t.
@mikeymancha25943 жыл бұрын
also it looks like the traction control was on somehow? if he was in 4low first gear at 50% throttle he would definitely be spinning the tire(s) a little faster than that because tc is turned off in 4L
@jkfaulkner3 жыл бұрын
Two thumbs down. You went too easy on GMC. Dated interior, lacks some options for that kind of money.
@krasnaludek2983 жыл бұрын
The interior is dated compared to Ford, but not Toyota. Tacoma is ancient & fan boys never call the Japanese out over it.
@MountainHobbler3 жыл бұрын
@@krasnaludek298 Criticizing the interior has become the trendy low hanging fruit.
@gfinnstrom3 жыл бұрын
@@MountainHobbler I agree who cares about what the stupid interiors are... I came from the days with metal dashboard... the only thing important is hauling towing... if someone wants fancy interiors then get a BMW
@richfarfugnuven63083 жыл бұрын
@@ashanfernando4749 Toyota has been on the same trucks/interiors since 2008 buddy.
@richfarfugnuven63083 жыл бұрын
@@ashanfernando4749 spelling and grammar when telling someone they are wrong. It's "you're" wrong for 1. The LC, Sequoia, and Tundra are pretty much unchanged since 2008, I stand by my statement. "Also Tacoma comes along more option." TACOMA COMES WITH A LOT MORE OPTIONS.
@blainekenndy23663 жыл бұрын
They can call it a locker all they want but if the one tire spins and then the other one comes in that's called a limited slip differential it's got clutches in it
@JoeWS543 жыл бұрын
from a life long GM guy, I think they dropped the ball on this one. Lot better options out there for a midsize off road
@David Wang true. I'm just saying the Pro4x is better than the Canyon because it has a selectable locker.
@Alaska-g5y10 ай бұрын
I need to now is this just a normal at4 or is it a extra package for the at4
@Togged3 жыл бұрын
Where's the regular cab short bed?
@npast13 жыл бұрын
Its a shame you didn't mention payload or towing rating. you guys just don't use those trucks for daily work, and somehow it shows in your reviews. I used to be a fan, but these days I find myself seldom visiting this channel and instead watching more and more the Truck King reviews, they just cover it better , all the stuff I am interested in.
@jamesstaton76723 жыл бұрын
I've never had an issue with my g80's. They always lock smoothly without really noticing
@Wolfsbane11003 жыл бұрын
This is basically just the Colorado Trail Boss package on the Z71. It's a luxury focused truck that does some light offroading pretty well.
@buckhorncortez3 жыл бұрын
"Another thumb up for them painted red so you can use them..." Really? You can only use tow hooks if they're painted red? I did not know that. I have black tow hooks on my truck and they seem to work just fine.
@berkalper47423 жыл бұрын
the problem with the g80 is that it requires slip to lock. what you showed here Tommy is exactly why that can be very bad in some scenarios. a tire that is slipping has less grip in ALL directions, not just where the truck is pointed, so you are much more likely to slide sideways into hazards while waiting for the g80 to lock up. Second massive issue you illustrated perfectly here is the oscillating hop that starts happening when you are right at the limit of the g80 locking, that hop will also periodically reduce your grip and make it much more difficult to get over "stepped" obstacles like those razor rocks. the g80 is fine for most consumers who just need a little assistance on maybe a patchy dirt road but you cannot have the same level of confidence as a driver-activated locker.
@smarticus63843 жыл бұрын
Also that centrifugal mechanism is prone to failure, especially when the driver goes nuts with spinning the slippage wheel prior to the lockup. So it’s best to be a little gentle when trying to lock it up.
@willrector97163 жыл бұрын
Everyone gives crap to the g80........... learn how to wheel and give it some skinny peel and it's all good.....
@freddyk33863 жыл бұрын
Traded my 2019 Denali for a 22 Colorado z72 off road and can definitely feel the difference when driving it
@nickm66703 жыл бұрын
According to the GMC dealership AT4 is just a Denali for "Country Folk" lol. Though, since they brought back the "Hummer" nameplate. Maybe they could solve the lack of ZR2 competition by putting an updated H3T body on a ZR2 frame with a hybrid powertrain. Since the wrangler is getting a plugin hybrid, GMC can beat the Gladiator version to market. It would have to have a removable roof and doors tho.
@albertsephardi77193 жыл бұрын
3:30 That hitch is designed so the towing ball mounts thru the bumper on to the hitch.
@fatchanceb18233 жыл бұрын
"locks ... in theory" hahaha! love it
@williamholmes63183 жыл бұрын
Trailer hitch is included as the rear bumper has a hole to mount a hitch ball, just look at the bottom of the bumper to see the hole and you need to remove the plug from the bumper top to mount the ball.
@eltonhutto62533 жыл бұрын
How reliable is the ZR2, I researched it when it was new and read about a lot of transmission issues, shock issues and a few other problems. Is transmission still a problem . How's the ZR2 doing with high mileage ?
@mblake04203 жыл бұрын
Black headliner, front and rear traditional lockers no auto 4wd, and tow hitch I would buy
@bsfunk443 жыл бұрын
It has regular 4wd...just don't use auto..
@mblake04203 жыл бұрын
@@bsfunk44 makes them weak
@kennethjinkins89673 жыл бұрын
It goes through snow really good , Andre showed that
@Makemydayoutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Any pick up could go through there.
@Ivan-sm4dq3 жыл бұрын
@@Makemydayoutdoors go away Ford fanboy
@Makemydayoutdoors3 жыл бұрын
@@Ivan-sm4dq Ram, if we have to go there...
@lespeterson34263 жыл бұрын
OK tell me, I’ve been wheeling for the last 40+ years in a Jeep CJ five and other four-wheel-drive‘s. I don’t understand why the recovery hooks on the front have to be painted red, so you can use them. what difference does it matter as long as they’re rated for recovery or is that how the new ratings are you have to paint them red? I don’t understand that.
@marlinguidegun16573 жыл бұрын
Well, it got you and I to comment and that increases "engagement" for the video. Advertisers and KZbin like engagement. If that was the plan, Tommy is a true professional. Actually, I think that it is a running joke intended for his father; in the Cheep Jeep build, his dad wanted them painted red and he wanted them black.
@upshifter53163 жыл бұрын
It’s a running joke how all the manufacturers are painting tow hooks now to be trendy. And of course color has no baring on function.
@lespeterson34263 жыл бұрын
Well I must’ve missed that episode and that’s the way it goes.
@R.Nelson3 жыл бұрын
Good morning Tommy🌞Looks alot like my dad's 18' Canyon.. doesn't have the nice black rims
@sethgrim3 жыл бұрын
Great truck, great review. Thanks Tommy
@KTMcaptain3 жыл бұрын
Low range’s additional wheel torque is a huge benefit. It protects your transmission from being under heavy constant loads and makes that extra torque makes it more controlled by making the throttle easier to modulate 🤦🏻
@CaleL3 жыл бұрын
Did you turn off traction control? I know in the ZR2 you have to hold it down for 10 seconds to actually turn it off. Once off, put it in off-road mode, and keep it in 1st gear. I think it would have made it up with traction control off. The fact you were so far into the throttle and it was cutting power leads me to believe you didn't properly turn off traction control.
@dedalliance13 жыл бұрын
There's traction control and stability control. If you just turn off traction control you push the button once and it turns it off. That allows you to spin the tires but not enough to slide the rear end around easily (at least when driving on a normal road). Then if you hold the traction control button down for 7 to 10 seconds it turns off stability control which is what keeps the vehicle driving straight by using breaking and switching power to different wheels. So if you take that off everything just spins as much as possible but with no lockers you're not really helping yourself by sending full un filtered power to the wheels you're just going to do burn outs at that point.
@EGGINFOOLS3 жыл бұрын
@@dedalliance1 It has a locker. The g80 is a full locker. It's just not selectable. Also, Tommy shouldn't have had traction control on. He said he was at half throttle. Those tires would have been ripping through the dirt.
@donleamon86533 жыл бұрын
@@EGGINFOOLS - So you're saying that in order to get the G80 to work in this model you have to do an extra step to ensure you get the wheelspin needed for its' violent engagement while underway? Yeah, that is a much more eloquent solution than just selecting full locked engagement when you want it. 🤣🙄 I've had two G80 GM trucks over the years, and I have a Power Wagon and an 80 series Land Cruiser, both with selectable factory lockers. There is NO COMPARISON in control and finesse between the two methods, PERIOD. Put the G80 in stripper 2wd work trucks.
@EGGINFOOLS3 жыл бұрын
@@donleamon8653 Who said I said any of that. People like you cant have a conversation and stay in context. I said the g80 is a full locker. Period. As it is designed and marketed as such. The mechanical operation of it proves that. Whether you like it or not is opinion. I like the g80 and I like selectable lockers as well. The extra step to turn on a selectable is the same as turning off traction control. Pretty simple.
@NinoTamburrino3 жыл бұрын
GMC Canyon AT4 vs Ford Ranger Tremor!! We need that video
@donleamon86533 жыл бұрын
Do we really need to see a video of two off-road marketing appearance packages? It's not like either one is really unique...
@NinoTamburrino3 жыл бұрын
@@donleamon8653 Ya but it’s more content which is always good an I’m considering buying the new Ranger Tremor an I want to see how it performs vs other trucks
@jailman13 жыл бұрын
@@donleamon8653 the Tremor at least has some better off road chops
@antcar973 жыл бұрын
@@jailman1 I have the ‘20 Ranger FX4 and a much better off road truck than the AT4 , that’s going by the videos I’ve seen
@PatrickRich3 жыл бұрын
I feel like you don't get enough for 3 grand. Even retail, sliders, skids, and duratracs don't add up to 3 grand.
@OdiesGarage3 жыл бұрын
Especially when the Duratracs come standard on the AT4. So really all you get is skid plates, rock rails, factory removed air dam, black wheels and badges and a leveling kit
@foghelmut3 жыл бұрын
@@OdiesGarage Lol yeah that's about $1600 generously if you include the bed liner.
@nm-qt2hb3 жыл бұрын
A very fare review. For most people this truck hits most of the marks. Nice truck.
@dieseldrax3 жыл бұрын
3:50 That is the standard bumper hitch, you have to pop out the hole in the bumper to mount a ball and then you can tow up to 3,500LB with 350LB tongue weight with it.
@eriklee12643 жыл бұрын
This a press vehicle it was removed b/c they didn't want the journalist towing with it
@dieseldrax3 жыл бұрын
@@eriklee1264 Nope, that has nothing to do with it. The AT4 V6 doesn't come standard with a receiver hitch, only the 3,500LB bumper hitch which is what was shown in the video. The receiver hitch is a $250 option.
@eriklee12643 жыл бұрын
Yes you probably are correct but where can you honestly find an AT4 on the lot that won't have a hitch? A truck with no hitch is pretty much worthless.
@dieseldrax3 жыл бұрын
@@eriklee1264 I've seen a number of them. You'd think at least the upper trims would come with them standard but apparently not always.
@FF57543 жыл бұрын
So at 5:07 you talk about the key. So honestly, you are like most people which causes the issue. The ignition is meant for the key, not for a ring of keys and key chains and whatever else. This damages the ignition tumbler. Also, with the blade keys they stick way out and look like crap and also cause more damage to tumbler again for the same reasons. ..... Having a separate key and fob is actually the best way because you can leave the truck running and then also have the fob with the rest of your keys in your pocket or on a belt loop as I do. This is always better and no noise while driving either. I am in construction and also a firefighter so for me, leaving the truck running and locked while I am near by working is very common for me to do. Even at the gas pump, leave it running but, I have diesel so no static issues here. The other option is push button start which with Jeep for now but other as well, the computer hackers can unlock you vehicle because the key fob is close and then after the push to start, as long as not turning off the vehicle, they can drive it to the chop shop. You find out when you wake up. So far good video until this point. So push button not so great either. Just my point of view and i shop for vehicles that offer this feature of separate keys and fob........
@SkodzGaming3 жыл бұрын
Basically they remove the front air dam for 3k?
@Co1eTrain843 жыл бұрын
No. You get a leveling kit, duratrac tires, rocker skids, underbelly skids plates and removed airdam
@1micYT3 жыл бұрын
@@Co1eTrain84 They removed the air dam for this video. My '21 AT4 came with it attached.
@harlandurant70143 жыл бұрын
If you read the manual you can cut out a hole in the plastic and add a 2in or 1in ball bolting to the top of the black bar. Think its good for 1500lb trailer and 500lb tongue.
@harlandurant70143 жыл бұрын
The rock rails can take the weight of the vehicle, owned a zr2 they were test many time plus put a jack on them.
@coryernewein3 жыл бұрын
@7:30 who saw the sasquatch 🙃
@foghelmut3 жыл бұрын
Those rock sliders are fine for rock sliding. You can even hi-lift jack off of them. I wouldn't use them as rock bashers though. Fuel tank skid plate - I've read that GM feels its not necessary as the fuel tank is mounted above the frame rails. Press the traction control button to turn off basic traction control. Hold it down long to turn off all traction and stability assists.
@tatemethvin25033 жыл бұрын
Awesome video “love the truck”
@JohnnyLightningV103 жыл бұрын
So moral of story is great truck for someone who doesn't off-road but wants to look cool.
@johnspierce3 жыл бұрын
Kind of looks like he just took it off road for the test, right? Not everybody is a hard core off roader. What if I want to do easy trails, snow, dirt and occasional mud but I'm not a rock crawler? What good would it do to provide a ZR2 clone? That already exists. This slots in between Chevy's Z71 and the ZR2.
@desmo87553 жыл бұрын
Tried to build this config with the diesel engine. Can’t get this off-road package or black wheels with the diesel, which seems kind dumb, but can spec the skid plates on their own in the AT4 (without the off-road package),
@seadoo4life1273 жыл бұрын
Just buy the ZR2. This truck makes no sense.
@ALMX5DP3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t the ZR2 more expensive?
@mikemissouri51523 жыл бұрын
@@ALMX5DP no it’s not. Which is insane. This truck should be 8k less then a ZR2.
@terrencejones98173 жыл бұрын
It's makes perfect sense , when you realize that thr AT4 tows 2k more and has a higher payload than thr ZR2.
@mikemissouri51523 жыл бұрын
@@terrencejones9817 good luck. It doesn’t even have a hitch lol.
@terrencejones98173 жыл бұрын
@@mikemissouri5152 the one in the video doesn't. It has to be optioned.. weird choice by GM. But order the hitch and it tows 7000lbs with the gas engine, 7500lbs with diesel. ZR2 is 5000lbs either engine.
@buzzpedrotti54013 жыл бұрын
You illustrated the weakness of this compromise well. Full locking diffs are just better in all cases. They may add $500 to the production cost of a $3000 package, but they give real capability rather than fake capability. And at $50 k you are paying a very high price for a modest midsize truck. Thumbs down.
@lancemaki12483 жыл бұрын
A lot of hate for this truck... I don't think anyone actually claimed it's a ZR2 competitor. They've made it slightly more off-road worthy than the predecessor All Terrain trim (which I have and love btw), but without the DSSV, stock lift, and lockers of course it can't do everything the ZR2 can. I do agree it's dumb they didn't have a hitch on it. Otherwise, it looks great and will do off-road what probably 90% of people use it for like hunting.
@godzilla71483 жыл бұрын
If you hold the traction control button in for a couple of seconds it also turns off skid control. Which stops the brakes from holding you back rock climbing or in snow. You would think someone testing off-road vehicles would be familiar with the vehicle they're testing.
@KTMcaptain3 жыл бұрын
Those are the zr2 sliders and GM says they can are strong enough to support the body and people have tested that true.
@erickisel86683 жыл бұрын
Is this comparable to the Ranger Tremor?
@glenneric13 жыл бұрын
Great presentation this week!
@MrSujano3 жыл бұрын
Is it fair to say that the AT4 is basically the Z71?
@OdiesGarage3 жыл бұрын
I think your better off with the standard AT4 and pop for the 2.8L diesel. That's what we did.
@FullsendOffroad3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for 2023 Colorado/Canyon
@alanburleigh76963 жыл бұрын
Rubicons come with body mounted sliders from the factory also. Surprisingly they do a very goo job
@robertrousseaux10593 жыл бұрын
Does the GM line of trucks use torque vectoring? Like the Tundra ?
@jakeesayian26873 жыл бұрын
This is a regular AT4 with a different bumper, which is a Z71 Colorado with a different facia.
@markbuilt3 жыл бұрын
Sooner have the G80 rear end than the electric rear locker I have in my Ford . Nice review Tommy
@greathornedowl36443 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tommy, nice review, great looking truck
@jetlee77433 жыл бұрын
For the few who rock crawl with new trucks
@dank38233 жыл бұрын
I like it. Tough looking.
@richfarfugnuven63083 жыл бұрын
I do think you guy should buy a Powerwagon or Chevy ZR2 Bison as one of your next long term test vehicles, and modify it after 6 months or so.
@rvboyett3 жыл бұрын
Good Review man.. So really, the still kinda half-assed it again. It's just less half-assed than before. It's really too bad because it's a nice lookin' truck. Much better looking than the ZR2.
@jamescockriel98833 жыл бұрын
Do all of these canyon AT4 packages have a level kit from factory
@Williampigg18533 жыл бұрын
Colorado ZR2/ZR1 and Canyon AT4 need to get push button start, an upgraded heads up dash, and upgraded large upgraded infotainment. Come on 2023!!!
@eligreen99693 жыл бұрын
I wish trucks still had front and rear solid axels
@lonchespuntocom69403 жыл бұрын
Is it hard plastic where the 4x4 knobs are?
@dnlcast23 жыл бұрын
99% of these guys never go off road. GMC builds accordingly, makes sense.
@johnspierce3 жыл бұрын
Good review! Thanks
@ToyotaNutjob3 жыл бұрын
"Mom I want a tacoma" "But we have a tacoma at home!" -Tacoma at home..
@philtripe3 жыл бұрын
never sitting next to the Chevy at the Shop, waiting to get worked on... again
@alexanderblackburn45203 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile the Tacomas frame has rotted in half 😂
@willrector97163 жыл бұрын
Tacos are only good for eating.........
@chadreece42312 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderblackburn4520 keep dreaming
@mattobrien49353 жыл бұрын
The best part about this truck is that you can get it all with a crew cab AND A FULL LENGTH BED!
@aerynlovell4754 Жыл бұрын
2 thumbs down for the tow hooks since they are for a street truck that needs a light tow. Those tow hooks would snap off (DANGEROUS) if you get stuck in deep mud or try a snatch recovery. Proper rated "recovery points" are steel brackets that bolt to the frame and will not break under heavy stress or the shock load of a snatch recovery. My 2002 2wd Sonoma had a locker like the G80 and it would not engage if you had low speed wheel spin. On wet or icy roads it would kick the back of the truck sideways. I decided that my next truck would have an "OX" selectable locker that could be on all the time or off on icy roads.
@Deltaparker Жыл бұрын
Finally a decent review
@youngblood23rb3 жыл бұрын
Looked more like a Bucking Broncho to me
@KTMcaptain3 жыл бұрын
The g80 locks based on rpm not constant slip... it won’t lock if you slowly spin a wheel. You need to spin the wheel hard enough to actuate the mechanism.
@rodgood3 жыл бұрын
ya it digs a hole and then has to climb out of it . not good in sand /mud or snow.
@KTMcaptain3 жыл бұрын
@@rodgood exactly. It’s a great on road towing diff though, but in snow it just spins a wheel, and then the locker breaks the other wheel loose when it does couple and makes the rear end unstable. . In sand and mud they worked really well for me since I already have a ton of wheel speed. It sucked at finesse situations with low grip and low wheel speed.
@rodgood3 жыл бұрын
Remember when they were called it the Tic Tok Lockers .because of all the clock like mechanisms inside?
@KTMcaptain3 жыл бұрын
@@rodgood nope, but the dealer told me it was an E locker and it took me a long while to figure out why it had no cables going to it. Because they lied. I had an 06 z71 Silverado. . It was an interesting locker forever ago, but nowadays it’s just a dumb idea. Use the elsd from the Jeep Quadra drive II axle. Both are made by Eaton anyways. . My Quadra drive I grand Cherokee had a similar setup where it used a spinning wheel to energize the clutch pack on all 3 diffs, but it was progressive and seemed to work better. They phased that out for electronic versions that are awesome.
@dave33g3 жыл бұрын
I drive a 01 Sierra , older 4 wd , I’ve been curious how these newer trucks do in snowy but most importantly icy roads , I don’t like fishing rear end ..
@commanderinsleep27793 жыл бұрын
Glad I have the Zr2! Always liked GMC truck’s over Chevy but not these midsized ones!
@mikehunt-ew3pm3 жыл бұрын
is the 8 speed trans available in the diesel??
@tim65283 жыл бұрын
I have an slt 2 door. Never understood the air dam. It's just begging to be torn off.
@pablomoreno19993 жыл бұрын
May be that g80 only locks with TC off....i Don't know, i read somewhere though that it acts as a LSD with the ability to "lock" which would be 50-50 split obviously but it wasn't a true locker like the one we used to see in the silverado ...i would have liked a camara in the rear bottom like you sometimes put to see what the wheels where actually doing Definitely didn't seem like a locker, but the truck looks awesome actually
@chuckmuellerleile87293 жыл бұрын
That hitch thing is so GM.....absolutely worthless.....why waste the metal
@OSUCherokee13 жыл бұрын
Is it not a ball hitch on the bumper? I think he needed to look a little more thoroughly. I would think that helps your departure angle to not skid on a hitch receiver.
@ALMX5DP3 жыл бұрын
@@OSUCherokee1 bumper is only rated for 500lbs or something. If you wanted full towing capability, you’d have to option the hitch receiver.
@jldude843 жыл бұрын
To justify the price probably.
@Jasmurray873 жыл бұрын
It’s not a GM thing, they simply sent a truck to them without the trailer package. Every brand requires the trailer package option if you want it.
@45678ret3 жыл бұрын
@@Jasmurray87 didn't they have a trailer switch in the cabin?
@laloolhouvum16342 жыл бұрын
I would go for ISUZU-DMAX (X-terrain) 3.0L turbo-diesel, 187.7 hp 450 Nm-torque (standard rear locker, A-track system, HDCS, tow hitch) anyday of the week over the GMC canyon AT4X.
@cwbolyard13 жыл бұрын
Hey Tommy, thanks for the review. I love the looks of the canyon the best. I live just outside the San Juans, how will this truck get me over Imogene or Engineer pass? Or colorado trails in general. Thanks!
@adammccallum74933 жыл бұрын
My 2003 Sierra doesn’t need any protection for the rocker panels since mine doesn’t have rockers anymore😂 gotta love mn winters
@davebeauch332 жыл бұрын
i didn't read all the comments, but with this off road edition, is the fuel economy less than the standard AT4 with stock air damper? i'd like to remove mine and have seen a balanced number of yes & no of the removal. any help would be appreciated.
@zr2zamboni9063 жыл бұрын
Nice attempt GMC but it ain’t no ZR2 sibling - more like the Z71. Good points in the vid Tommy!
@Wrangler592 жыл бұрын
I think I may trade on my Wrangler for one of these. Miss having a pickup bed. Don't need a v8 full size pickup, but this would be nice.