The 25 BEST Cars For The Money!

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@SuperSTEIN24
@SuperSTEIN24 11 ай бұрын
I had a 2006 Honda ridgeline. Drove it until 290k miles. Never had a single problem with the engine. The car towed boats from CA to WA every summer. Drove in DEEP snow every winter. Got pushed too hard on fire roads (maybe a slight jump once or twice). That thing was absolutely bullet proof. It did have some issues with the locking 4WD at the end that we didn’t get fixed before getting rid of it. If Honda made anything with a locking rear diff I wouldn’t shop anything else. The ridgeline is what 80-90% of truck drivers actually need.
@BP-1972
@BP-1972 10 ай бұрын
I thought about trading in my 2019 Ram 1500 for a Ridgeline. Better ride, fuel mileage and seems more practical for everyday driving.
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 10 ай бұрын
I borrowed my friends to move some things. I was actually very impressed with it. So comfortable and great engine. That hidden trunk under the bed was amazing.
@whymaniawhy
@whymaniawhy 10 ай бұрын
Except i want about 6 more inches in bed length. :(
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 10 ай бұрын
@@BP-1972 Definitely worth it if you don’t need the Dodge for towing and heavy payload. Massive difference in driving.
@thisismagacountry1318
@thisismagacountry1318 10 ай бұрын
​@whymaniawhy You can use that bar that flips to contain a load over the extended tailgate. It flips back into the bed when not needed. Takes up a little space, but very efficient.
@chuckschilling9113
@chuckschilling9113 11 ай бұрын
My best was an 86 Mazda 323, which I purchased new for just over $8000 cash, and drove for 150,000 miles with just oil changes and tires and one set of front brake pads. Yielded a consistent 32 mpg and ran great...sold it to a friend for $4000 and miss it to this day.
@dentman67
@dentman67 11 ай бұрын
Try and use that 100k warranty. If the vehicle wasn't serviced by the book, and at the dealership, you may be in for a surprise.
@thadmurillo2256
@thadmurillo2256 11 ай бұрын
@dentman67 that is with all manufacturers. People often skip and delay, sometimes for sensible reasons, but all of the companies will fight
@michaelstewart9366
@michaelstewart9366 11 ай бұрын
Hyundai has electrical issues not covered by the 100,000 mile warranty.
@henrikhkarpynskyi8712
@henrikhkarpynskyi8712 11 ай бұрын
Not servicing car will also void regular 36K warranty.
@ChristianC-gy1ym
@ChristianC-gy1ym 11 ай бұрын
​@michaelstewart9366 What electrical issues. When you say "hyundai has electrical issues" do you mean per se that in the history of mankind a hyundai somewhere has an electrical issue? Or do you mean hyundais commonly have them? Because I think you're on the brink of talking outyerass if you don't choose wisely lol
@ChristianC-gy1ym
@ChristianC-gy1ym 11 ай бұрын
@dentman67, that's a true statement but it makes sense. If you are servicing your own vehicles or take them to a 3rd party shop, how would you expect the manufacturer to ensure uniformity in quality? Not saying all dealership shops do quality work (because they certain dont). But it's the bare minimum quality control they can at least attempt. I always take all my vehicles into the dealer for THAT reason because i don't want them having any excuses why they won't honor a warranty in the future. My BMW, Hyundai, Toyota. They all see time at the dealerships.
@BrianPetersen-l2w
@BrianPetersen-l2w 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video. My experience with my 2008 4Runner RWD has been flawless. Over 15 years with no problems at all. Regardless of milage just getting to over 15 years is great. I only paid 28K for it new, it still looks and drives like new, I think it will go for another 15 years.
@gregmoessner3104
@gregmoessner3104 11 ай бұрын
Honda Ridgeline. Your mom really likes the back seat.
@theroamingcolt
@theroamingcolt 11 ай бұрын
Constructive criticism: used a picture of a Charger when talking about the Challenger
@J.Young808
@J.Young808 10 ай бұрын
I believe they meant Charger since they mentioned their Charger cop car. And Tommy kept going between 10k & 100k miles
@jcs480able
@jcs480able 10 ай бұрын
My #2 sleeper car... O7' Rav 4 v6. Currently have it and it rips to about 75mph. It flattens out quite a bit after 75 but yeah My #1 sleeper car... 2000 Saturn Wagon L series 3.0 Litre V6 Bosch(German) paired with a Chevy Cavalier 4 speed automatic. It was a missile all the way to 105mph, smoothed out a bit but kept going to 130. That Saturn Would torch the Rav 4 hands down with luxury quiet and decent cornering. Sold it with 297,000 miles for nothing. The oil would stay pristine and you'd swear it was just changed after 3000 hard miles. Crazy Good engine!!
@jamesbeaman6337
@jamesbeaman6337 11 ай бұрын
Appreciate iSeeCars for putting together this data and to TFL for presenting it. But it would have been even better for them to factor in total cost of ownership (fuel, maintenance and resale) rather than just average purchase price.
@markspence3750
@markspence3750 11 ай бұрын
Consumer Reports tries their best to do that, but really no one does it well. JD Power reports don't help that much with consumer satisfaction. Some cars are great but have one big problem, and some have lots of minor problems.
@Jackson-T23
@Jackson-T23 11 ай бұрын
I don't think fuel should be accounted for because that would pretty much eliminate larger, heavier vehicles. Then the list would be populated by only Civics and Corollas.
@ironcrafter
@ironcrafter 11 ай бұрын
I recall reading an article about surprising taxi vehicle replacements in the US and the Ford Explorer or Escape ( I forget) with the hybrid power train stood out as on of the reliability kings, due to the electric motors taking stop-n-go stresses off the power train. That was several years ago, so I would be interested to see the taxi/rideshare community chime in on toyota's hybrid vehicles.
@Invisibleindreamsonly
@Invisibleindreamsonly 9 ай бұрын
I worked at a Toyota dealership in the 80s 90s and 2000s and I Remember when their pick ups had sludge build up issues Toyota really didn’t stand by their engines like they should have. In working at both foreign and domestic dealerships overall I saw that the domestic dealerships were much quicker then Toyota Nissan Hyundai etc. to assist and help the customers. When buying a new vehicle make sure to compare the warranties on each vehicle that you are considering to buy because I’ve seen a lot of vehicles fail just outside their warranty and it boiled down to the manufacturer providing goodwill to the owner of the vehicle.
@JollyGiant19
@JollyGiant19 9 ай бұрын
From my experience you’re living in a Twilight Zone episode 😂
@danmarjenka6361
@danmarjenka6361 2 ай бұрын
I've never once heard that American car manufacturers stood behind any of their vehicles. Toyota picked up the parts and labor on a $2000 part at 150,000 miles on my car. I did not have an extended warranty either.
@Ctb1998
@Ctb1998 11 ай бұрын
The ridgeline is arguably the best truck on the market aside from looks/off-roading ability and that’s the only reason they don’t sell as much as the Tacoma. The ridgeline is a perfect example of what 90% of people actually need out of a truck, myself included.
@Ctb1998
@Ctb1998 11 ай бұрын
@devildog5354 I said best truck on the market for most people, the only reason people don’t buy them is because the look and no true 4wd system
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 10 ай бұрын
That really is an amazing truck. Quick, comfortable and handles good for a truck. Great engine.
@austinpowe4322
@austinpowe4322 10 ай бұрын
Looks are important. The Maverick sales are stomping the hell out of the Santa Cruz not because of capability but looks have more to do with it than anything.
@austinpowe4322
@austinpowe4322 10 ай бұрын
Dude keeps saying price per 100k but he means price per 10k.
@RYTHMICRIOT
@RYTHMICRIOT 11 ай бұрын
The reality is most Americans who buy new, move on to another vehicle in less than 5yrs. And last time I checked, warranties don't pass to the next buyers. And this is likely the period where the most significant vehicle maintenance comes into play. And it's hard to quantify how well the later owners maintain upkeep. And the other thing almost never mentioned when reliability is discussed is ease of serviceability and the parts market. If you have a part that breaks often, but the part is cheap and can be changed in less than an hour with basic tools, this is much better than a part that breaks rarely but requires the engine to be raised to replace.
@byronorellana6886
@byronorellana6886 11 ай бұрын
What are variables being used to calculate the cost per 10,000 miles?
@MegaBlackley
@MegaBlackley 10 ай бұрын
Bottom line: a turbo is an extra part that fails, and it’s super expensive when it does. No thanks. Normally aspirated for me.
@propertypreparedness6846
@propertypreparedness6846 7 ай бұрын
I agree, unless I have owned the vehicle from day one. Then I have no concerns, driving style and maintenance that I know happened. If you get a bad turbo it will likely fail in warranty. Otherwise (mostly) it’s dirty or unchanged oil. (I have had one rebuilt under extended warranty) low mileage power stroke. My fault, only drove it 5k a year.
@chandleredwards
@chandleredwards Ай бұрын
You will agree that no matter what, even if cared for from the first, forced induction is higher maintenance.​@@propertypreparedness6846 More power from less displacement results in higher wear and tear. Higher the pressure, more wear and tear. Pros and costs. 👍
@IKnewMickey
@IKnewMickey 11 ай бұрын
This list makes total sense. Sedans are the only class of vehicle not to be over priced. Trucks SUVs crossovers and sport sedans are all priced to gouge.
@Ctb1998
@Ctb1998 11 ай бұрын
Cause sedans have the least demand in America right now
@jayswartzbaugh8553
@jayswartzbaugh8553 10 ай бұрын
If it helps folks with concerns over hybrid batteries, our experience has been very positive. We have two hybrid Ford Fusions. The oldest is a 2010 with 338,000 miles on it, and no issues with the battery. The other is a 2017 with 108,000 miles, it averages 43.5 miles per gallon, and again has had no battery issues.
@JollyGiant19
@JollyGiant19 9 ай бұрын
I’ve seen someone buy an older Gen 2 Prius with a bad battery they were going to drive until it died and then scrap it It went 100k more miles to someone in the 300s without further issues 😂
@jayswartzbaugh8553
@jayswartzbaugh8553 9 ай бұрын
Impressive.
@Ryan-yi6su
@Ryan-yi6su 10 ай бұрын
We've had a 2008 Toyota Prius, 350,000 km no battery problems. We have a 2013 Toyota Prius 336,000km no battery problems, , with temperatures from +40c to -45c
@madskillzz1
@madskillzz1 11 ай бұрын
Always appreciate the content you guys do a great job. You've given me some additional cars to consider while I help my son shop for a car.
@markspence3750
@markspence3750 11 ай бұрын
I wish you would do more shows like this one. Money is tight!
@GoodSamLegend
@GoodSamLegend 10 ай бұрын
I love the Ridgeline and I was close to buying it twice when I was in the market for a new pickup truck for my wife. We have three kids of which two still use car safety seats, and the Ridgeline was the only midsize pickup truck that I could fit my kids in the rear row. However, the reason I did not buy it before the latest refresh is that I do not like its exterior look (the latest one is looking much better), and I need a truck with a bit more ground clearance because we are going to hunt a lot.
@Jackson-T23
@Jackson-T23 11 ай бұрын
34:11. Remember 239,000 miles is the "average". So for every Tacoma that died at 139k miles......there's another that went 339k.
@iskdude9922
@iskdude9922 11 ай бұрын
If a tacoma died at 139k miles then they really didnt take care of it or abused the crap out of it
@troopdog2003
@troopdog2003 9 ай бұрын
Don't confuse average with median.
@centurionl
@centurionl 9 ай бұрын
More like they die somewhere around 200k and 300k
@stefanghica
@stefanghica 11 ай бұрын
I've had my 2006 ford E350 5.4 for over 6 years now. It's had 56k when I bought it. I know these engines in many forums seem problematic but, if serviced on time it's been doing great. to be quite honest the engine is running really well, and yes she drinks a bit of oil by design and veeeeery thirsty, but it's the transmission I keep an eye on, I changed that fluid every 30k. and the sparkplugs with a trusty mechanic. Because I go on long trips everything has been serviced so I don't get stuck with expensive repairs. I have 110000k now and runs very well. I think if I keep the the maintanece the way I do, the body will fall off before the powertrain even flinches.
@kwilliams4031
@kwilliams4031 11 ай бұрын
I owned a 2017 Mirage. I liked the efficiency (50 mpg was possible at ~50mph on even ground) and simple, reliable drive train, which I'm sure would've lasted 200k. Despite being very under-powered (You need to plan ahead when pulling out into traffic) and lack of tire options, I was hoping to keep it "forever". But unfortunately the build quality wasn't there. Brakes weren't great, but more importantly, parts underneath started rusting and falling off way too early. I traded it for cash from a dealer at around 86K and don't regret it. I previously owned two Hyundai Accents (bought brand new for roughly the same price as the Mirage) and while not perfect either, they were a lot easier to live with. Better build quality and ability to keep up in traffic more than made up for lower mpg numbers. I put over 220k hard miles on my '01 Accent in just 7 years.
@Kahless00
@Kahless00 11 ай бұрын
That's a big penalty for going that slow. My manual 05 cobalt could get 43mpg at 75mph. I got it for 13170 brand new.
@gordtulk
@gordtulk 11 ай бұрын
Hornet looks to be DOA in the market. Like the Pacifica minivan and the pacifica suv and several alfa models they were introduced into the market with a price point that killed the new vehicle buzz and thus sales momentum.
@littlestinker9716
@littlestinker9716 11 ай бұрын
Agreed. Hornet prices quickly get into Lexus territory. No way will Hornets sell without huge discounts.
@gordtulk
@gordtulk 11 ай бұрын
@@littlestinker9716 and with it any momentum in the market. Compare that to the ford maverick.
@whymaniawhy
@whymaniawhy 10 ай бұрын
The what? lol
@gordtulk
@gordtulk 10 ай бұрын
@@whymaniawhy probably the most successful vehicle launch of the past five years. The entire 2023 supply sold out in a week.
@jellyroll5247
@jellyroll5247 10 ай бұрын
2014 Mazda 2 2.0. 197k zero issues and still get 37 mpg. 96 Corolla 396k 7afe engine. 92 Camry 295k 5sfe engine. Stout as hell.
@lorrinbarth1969
@lorrinbarth1969 11 ай бұрын
The problem with 4-banger turbo cars is that everyone knows power can be increased by simply increasing boost. No one can resist. More boost equals more fun until eventually the engine goes boom.
@eyesurgeon69
@eyesurgeon69 11 ай бұрын
The amount of owners that even consider increasing the boost in a modern non-enthusiast turbocharged car is less than 1%.
@mplslawnguy3389
@mplslawnguy3389 10 ай бұрын
Most turbo cars aren't meant to be driven like sports cars. The only reason for the turbo is to assist an underpowered engine. I will avoid a turbo for as long as I can. Perfectly happy with my V8, and that is real power, not artificially boosted power.
@lorrinbarth1969
@lorrinbarth1969 10 ай бұрын
@@mplslawnguy3389 I owned several cars with big V8’s. The problem is the weight. In the last of the previous previous generation of Camaro they had moved the engine so far back it was half buried under the windshield in an attempt to improve the car’s handling. Since then I’ve owned four turbocharged cars, two were excellent and two not so good. However, I didn’t have any turbocharger problems with any of them. Early turbocharged cars had this gap in acceleration, the turbo finally kicking in and increasing power at about 3500 rpm. My latest turbocharged acquisition is a 2021 Honda Accord with a 10 speed automatic. There is no turbocharger lag and I’ve gotten as good as 42.7 mpg on the highway. The faults with this car are that around town it is kinda on the whale size and all the drive train wants to do is spin the tires. The advantages of a tubocharged car with a small engine (the Accord has a 2 liter) is lighter weight, good gas mileage if you keep your foot out of it and much less weight.
@J.Young808
@J.Young808 10 ай бұрын
One of two reasons (access cab clamshell doors #2) I bought the 3rd Gen Tacoma TRD Off Road is the naturally aspirated V6 that is in many different vehicles. I am hoping that it will be the last car I have to buy and I’m 47 with family living 90+ years.
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@J.Young808Problem is bodies won’t last that long. Toyota has always had issues with rot and rust.
@zenfishbike
@zenfishbike 9 ай бұрын
My $34k 2002 Chevy Avalanche at 295k miles is currently at $1150/10k miles and getting better with every mile.
@nm-qt2hb
@nm-qt2hb 11 ай бұрын
The Hyundai and KIA Powertrain warranty drops to 50,000 miles for a second owner.
@jaronritchie2372
@jaronritchie2372 11 ай бұрын
How has nobody talked about the previous model tundra with the 5.7 V8, arguably one of the most reliable vehicles ever made
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 10 ай бұрын
Bad fuel mileage.
@DUNEATV
@DUNEATV 10 ай бұрын
Because it got 6 mpg LOL
@jaronritchie2372
@jaronritchie2372 10 ай бұрын
@@ryanb8736 what does this have to do with reliability? Lol
@mplslawnguy3389
@mplslawnguy3389 10 ай бұрын
V8's rule. For someone that doesn't care that much about mpg, I will drive a V8 as long as I can.
@cmiles97x38
@cmiles97x38 10 ай бұрын
@@DUNEATV No not great mpg but my 2018 4x4 is averaging 15.5mpg mixed driving.
@MVRWC
@MVRWC 11 ай бұрын
2006 4runner SR5 V6 200,000,+ miles runs great! Love it.
@dogmanfitness2552
@dogmanfitness2552 9 ай бұрын
My first car ever was a 1985 Toyota Tercel hatchback. Cost new was 5,618.00. Drove it for 12 years, and sold it with 201,000 miles on it. That’s 280 dollars per 10k miles. I’ll have to drive my 2017 Tacoma (currently at 140,000 miles) until it reaches 1,295,000 miles to get the same cost per 10k!! 😂😂
@timpowell6901
@timpowell6901 10 ай бұрын
These are the mileages that the cars are traded in, not how long they will last.
@kurtburkhardt5862
@kurtburkhardt5862 11 ай бұрын
I get what you think of the older Escape and newer Bronco Sport. We had a 2009 Escape hybrid and it was great, 178K miles (Midwest salt killed it) still ran well. We liked the Bronco Sport, no hybrid was a deal breaker. Bought a 23 Rav4 hybrid. Never liked the carlike Escape...
@rickjames9524
@rickjames9524 10 ай бұрын
Avoid that bronco sport AT ALL COSTS...very cheaply made in Mexico and new ones have several issues and recalls!!
@billyholland132
@billyholland132 11 ай бұрын
How about the old dodge neon? I had a red 2001 base model
@christopherjordan459
@christopherjordan459 9 ай бұрын
2010 Toyota Yaris… 403000 miles and still going. Getting 32MPG to boot!
@blackoutsleepingmusic1833
@blackoutsleepingmusic1833 9 ай бұрын
anyone have the list? don't see a list anywhere... i tried listening but so much talk between cars that lost track of what car they were even talking about... no list in transcript.. oh well
@janusaflorida7909
@janusaflorida7909 9 ай бұрын
I owned a KIa Rio for eight years and had no problems with it...just traded it in for a Suburu Forester as taking little cars on the interstate is not a good idea . Glad you had Subys on your list , several of them, but they do cost more than the Kias.
@andrewshenton6541
@andrewshenton6541 11 ай бұрын
Anyone serious about knowledge they watch you guys and truck and suv talk period!!!great work
@actionshootingsports8830
@actionshootingsports8830 9 ай бұрын
In your top 25, I really love the Toyota 4Runner. I live in the Chicago area, which model do you prefer for my area?
@greg7886
@greg7886 11 ай бұрын
Iseecars seems to calculate the lifespan based on registrations. They don't really know the mileage when the car is junked. They only know the milage when the car was last registered. Therefore the average lifespan of a vehicle overall probably actually something more than the 176k they claim. Since the average miles driven per year is 15k its probably closer to 185k
@bradleylayton1741
@bradleylayton1741 11 ай бұрын
Turbos don’t affect the life span of a car… fast forward 10 minutes I didn’t want a turbo car for my daughter cause I needed it to last 50k miles lol
@mplslawnguy3389
@mplslawnguy3389 10 ай бұрын
Of course they do, you don't need to be an engineer to know that. It's all just a way to trick the ratings for CAFE standards, when it makes almost no difference in the real world.
@TechOTuesday
@TechOTuesday 11 ай бұрын
Altough not new in fact discountued the Lexus 4th Gen GS350 in particular the 2013-2015 models are one of the best and most underrated luxury sedans ever made. Bulletproof engines (3.5L V6), amazing build quality and fit and finish and of course the Toyota reliability and dependability. I would buy one used over anything new today at these insane prices and would still outast nearly all new vehicles on this list.
@jellyroll5247
@jellyroll5247 10 ай бұрын
💯 percent correct. Prices are out of control.
@SuperSnakePlissken
@SuperSnakePlissken 11 ай бұрын
I bought a 2005 Lexus LS 430 in 2020 with 205,000'ish miles on it one owner. I have since gotten that odometer just over 272,000'ish miles with very little repair. This car will be 20 years old next year and I am confident I will have close to if not surprassed 300,000 miles. I only paid $11,500 for the vehicle and have since put around $6,000 in it for an investment of less than $19,000 for an incredible vehicle.
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 10 ай бұрын
One of the best cars ever built.
@TheJayGeeDubya
@TheJayGeeDubya 10 ай бұрын
Had the newer Ridgeline for about 6 months. Liked a lot about it. However, some things I just couldn’t live with. Road and wind noise. Found it be loud at highway speeds. Also the stereo was abysmal (premium stereo). Also the interior bed height with a tonneau cover makes so you can’t get very tall stuff in there (like a cooler).
@dixonjazzy56
@dixonjazzy56 9 ай бұрын
The ridge line has a cooler built right into it very cool or you could put tools in there but I do agree the bed is shallow
@davidparkin9017
@davidparkin9017 10 ай бұрын
I can't believe the Mazda CX 30 did not make your list.
@CrimsonLegacy
@CrimsonLegacy 9 ай бұрын
I was about to comment the same thing! The Mazda CX-9, Mazda3, and Miata all made the list, yet their best-selling car with very high praise for its great engine and transmission isn't there at all? Also, this list calculates cost based on new prices, but you can get a slightly used CX-5 for about $2,000 cheaper than an equivalent RAV4, yet. A much nicer interior and ride experience
@johngalv9288
@johngalv9288 10 ай бұрын
Any opinions on Subaru Crosstrek? engine / trans reliability and cost of maintenance? Thanks, great discussion. Sorry I didn't see the whole video.
@wellfleetion
@wellfleetion 5 ай бұрын
Friend got a brand new 2019 Hyundai Tuscan. It was in the shop countless times under warranty for check engine lights and went through 2 catalytic converters. Urged her to get rid of it just prior to 65k and she traded that pos for a Mazda CX-30. She loves it.
@tedadamgreen
@tedadamgreen 11 ай бұрын
Love that yall mentioned my 2019 Base Veloster! It’s even the auto and I’m glad it’s not any quicker than 147hp or I’d be in a whole lotta trouble 🤣 It’s my second favorite car after my beloved 1991 Notch 5.0 Lx Mustang. The Veloster was a delight on the Tail of the Dragon recently but it keeps me from getting tickets and still manages to do interstate traffic speeds that start with an 8 (occasionally a 9) with no issues. Also bullet proof reliable at 172,000 miles.
@charlesbrenner3570
@charlesbrenner3570 10 ай бұрын
I would be interested in seeing cost per 10,000 miles for various depreciated used cars. That is, now that used car prices are starting to come down. A sweet spot used to be when a car was 5 or 6 years old but not excessive miles.
@CrimsonLegacy
@CrimsonLegacy 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Recently purchased a CX-5 used after extensive research on warranty. It was actually several thousand dollars cheaper than an equivalent RAV4 and cheaper than a CRV, but looks and feels like it is a much higher quality vehicle by all measures. It was also manufactured in Japan with Mazda's own high quality Skyactiv engine and transmission, naturally aspirated with a regular 6 speed transmission, no CVT. I was shocked it didn't make the list at all, despite the CX-9, Mazda3, and Miata all making the list, especially since the CX-5 is BY FAR Mazda's best-selling model
@markspence3750
@markspence3750 11 ай бұрын
I live in SouthWest Florida. As a daily driver, with no kids, etc, I really like the Kia Sorrento & the MB GLA250. Just the right size for functionality.
@JamesJackson-Hailey
@JamesJackson-Hailey 10 ай бұрын
Bought a Ridgeline brand-new in 2006, took in on a road trip after I had broken it in, and couldn't get over 18mpg with all highway miles. Kinda turned me off of the Ridgeline since. I can get better mileage in my v8 Ram or Silverado.
@tasmith147
@tasmith147 10 ай бұрын
just wondering...if Toyota benchmarked commercial turbo performance for the tacoma (Hino I believe, as again, this is one of TMCs bread and butter platforms), wouldn't you think they would up the ante on the new gen 4cyl turbo 4runner?? If someone knows what design goals trickled out...please chime in 🤙
@Coolguyjason
@Coolguyjason 9 ай бұрын
So following along, the only Honda's not on the list are the HRV, Odyssey, and Pilot? I would assume since the Pilot and Odyssey get higher price trims, it's really the average price keeping them off the list. Also, found it interesting the Ridgeline seems to be the only truck!
@dogmanfitness2552
@dogmanfitness2552 9 ай бұрын
Tacoma was on the list also.
@darrylbarnes8894
@darrylbarnes8894 10 ай бұрын
Own a 2018 Camry Hybrid and love it. No problems so far, great fuel efficiency and faster than you would think.
@robervin9107
@robervin9107 11 ай бұрын
Lol absolutely hilarious tommy your absolutely smart. Bud as are you Nate never underestimate that. Awesome vlog. Toyota reigns supreme
@mrhollisterjr
@mrhollisterjr 9 ай бұрын
My assigned Prius cab had over 460k miles on it, and despite the rattle of all the plastic, it was a solid car.
@NissanTy
@NissanTy 11 ай бұрын
I have a 2022 is350 fsport and i love that car. The 3.5 v6 has more than enough power. No its not the fastest car but it gets the job done. Never drove the 2.0 urbo nor do i have the desire to
@marcelmed4574
@marcelmed4574 10 ай бұрын
How come my Lada didn’t make the list?
@gabrielchristopher9625
@gabrielchristopher9625 11 ай бұрын
This discussion made me think why didn’t Ram put the 392 in a 1500. Put it in a Durango and Wrangler. Ram Rebel GT would be the perfect truck for that engine.
@Davidtestrake
@Davidtestrake 11 ай бұрын
I think lots of younger people agree with Nathan’s daughter. The US cars often have shoddy workmanship. In 2024 ‘made in USA’ is more of a liability than an asset
@CrimsonLegacy
@CrimsonLegacy 9 ай бұрын
It was a factor in making my decision to get a Mazda CX-5 with a naturally aspirated engine and regular 5-speed transmission (no CVT) and completely MADE IN JAPAN, as opposed to both the RAV4 and Honda CR-V which actually cost more used!
@Anon92.46
@Anon92.46 11 ай бұрын
The issue with going off of used car data is it’s a self fulfilling infinite loop. ISeeCars says this car last long Resale value shoots up Car A breaks down, but because of high resale value, it gets fixed and sold. Puts on more miles, moves up the list. Even better future resale. Car B breaks down, and has low resale, repair is more than rock bottom resale, so car is scrapped. No chance to reach high mileage. Moves down list. Resale remains low. I want to see what percent of a model has major power train issues. I’m guessing there is no way to get this. But that’d interesting to see.
@Baked_intell
@Baked_intell 11 ай бұрын
Half logic why was car a worth more to start with? the list will match its also related to total model sales
@paupmaster2k
@paupmaster2k 11 ай бұрын
Our mirage is a beast!
@EddeLaw
@EddeLaw 11 ай бұрын
I have 3 vehicles all well over 150k one is over 200k 2010 Dodge ram 1500 2wd 5.7l 189,000 miles 2001 Jeep cherokee XJ 4.0l 196,000 miles 2010 mercedes benz e350 4matic 3.6l 212,000. All 3 run great and no major repairs oil changes every 3-4k miles.
@ScottyBennitone
@ScottyBennitone 11 ай бұрын
Ford Maverick for 26K should be on the list in the top 10.
@tylerproctor4878
@tylerproctor4878 11 ай бұрын
It's probably not old enough to get longevity data
@ScottyBennitone
@ScottyBennitone 11 ай бұрын
@@tylerproctor4878 that 2.0L turbo has been used for the last 15 years in 20 different models. But I see what youre saying. If the maverick would last 170k miles it would easily be top ten. Just saying.
@enmass90
@enmass90 11 ай бұрын
@@ScottyBennitonethe engine is fine. The transmission on the other hand…Ford seems to be rolling the dice by putting in a transmission that is rated for a lower power output than the engine puts out. And the recommended 100k mile tranny oil service interval won’t do them any favors.
@Kahless00
@Kahless00 11 ай бұрын
"the vehicle that's been out for two model years so far should be in the top of the longevity list " - this dude. Doesn't matter which engine is in it.
@ScottyBennitone
@ScottyBennitone 11 ай бұрын
@@Kahless00 actually 3 years now and theyre proving more reliable than anticipated by the haters. Its not a longevity list either, its best option car/trucks for the money...
@elliottwalsh94
@elliottwalsh94 11 ай бұрын
I love the new Honda design. New Accord with the right package looks beautiful
@mattlimberg5763
@mattlimberg5763 11 ай бұрын
I think the problem with the 8 speed AWD charger was it would take sales from the Durango, even though they shouldn't compete.
@nephrodoc4120
@nephrodoc4120 11 ай бұрын
Honda essentially killed off the new Accord with the bland powertrain. This new one is nothing like the V6 or 2.0 Turbo models it replaced.
@MtndogCO67
@MtndogCO67 10 ай бұрын
This list is a head scratcher.. some of these cars just don’t last, break frequently, have huge expense levels when they do fail so it’s hard to imagine their value being so high on this list. But it was entertaining..
@roguedogx
@roguedogx 11 ай бұрын
16:35 the tesla guy didn't, but they replaced everything on his car (something like 14 motors and 3 battery packs) so he effectively already had a new car. lol
@jamesbrock1306
@jamesbrock1306 4 ай бұрын
Not working out ss well as you guys predicted.i remember you guys saying Ford and GM small turbo engines were a wait and see proposition. Even though they have been out for years. And now you're going to sign off o. TOYOTA with no data.
@drnick40
@drnick40 11 ай бұрын
The old cars did not last but cost very little in comparison to what we pay today. Also hybrid drivetrains help relieve the strain on the turbo engine, hence make it more reliable. Toyota, Honda and Ford have done hybrids forever.
@Dankcatvacs
@Dankcatvacs 11 ай бұрын
old cars last my 93 suabru loyale has 304k miles the build quilty is good.
@mplslawnguy3389
@mplslawnguy3389 10 ай бұрын
Older cars could be fixed more easily and cheaply as well.
@valdecibessa5362
@valdecibessa5362 10 ай бұрын
That first escape was very good.i still want one..it fells like a tough car
@MS-mr4zm
@MS-mr4zm 9 ай бұрын
‘89 ford ranger- 291k miles on the original engine and clutch!!!
@trspotr
@trspotr 11 ай бұрын
Speaking of the LIST, can you make the list of cars that base grade is absolutely good enough to buy and live with? Seems like base grades are made for rentals only but can you prove me wrong?? 🤔
@taylorstump5084
@taylorstump5084 11 ай бұрын
I'm disappointed in my 2022 elantra nline , it's transmission makes me think it's a 16 year old learning how to shift.
@BowlerActuary
@BowlerActuary 11 ай бұрын
B2B warranty for Hyundai is 5 year/60k miles
@scottlawrenceplus
@scottlawrenceplus 10 ай бұрын
I bought a used Volvo V70 7 years ago for 10k CDN and still drive it today. Sitting at 265k KMs and no sign of slowing down.
@ytSuns26
@ytSuns26 Ай бұрын
In the late fifties we used to say. Once the floor mats wore out the car was worthless. Truthfully 60-100,000 was it.
@BlackhawkPilot
@BlackhawkPilot 10 ай бұрын
Drove a 1986 Mercedes 300SLD for 330K miles until T-boned by an UBER driver. Almost 35 years of minimal maintenance beyond oil changes.
@danmarjenka6361
@danmarjenka6361 10 ай бұрын
The all wheel drive Prius goes 0 - 60 in 7 seconds, and rides smoother than a Corolla.
@gordonschiff3621
@gordonschiff3621 3 ай бұрын
The new civic is way better.
@donschiffer7400
@donschiffer7400 11 ай бұрын
What is the median price of new cars? I suspect that’s a bit lower…
@VIVACRISTOREY-
@VIVACRISTOREY- 11 ай бұрын
U mean new cars last longer, like my 2020 Silverado 5.3 LT needing engine overhaul for lifter failure at 30k miles
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 10 ай бұрын
That’s because it’s a GM.
@erichubbard7754
@erichubbard7754 10 ай бұрын
GM just won't give up on cylinder deactivation tech that has had a bad track record even with immaculate maintenance still causes problems
@davidparkin9017
@davidparkin9017 10 ай бұрын
The Dodge Challenger AWD would be nice with a 4.0 inline dohc six cylinder with high compression, say 12:1 Making 350 horsepower. I suppose in the mountains you would need a turbocharger.
@markwhite270
@markwhite270 10 ай бұрын
Not a cheap car but if you take care of them they last.. I have a 2007 Audi A4 3.2 auto at 218,xxx miles, and everting works... Toyota, Honda yes lead the pack but if you just take care of your car or truck they will last longer! great clip guys
@Jaycat48
@Jaycat48 11 ай бұрын
You talked about a Challenger but put up a picture of a Charger. Car guys eh? ;)
@occasionalquest
@occasionalquest 11 ай бұрын
Problem with Hornet is BMW 1X ... the same turbo 2 liter fun to drive ... and much better interrior ... price similar ...
@davidparkin9017
@davidparkin9017 10 ай бұрын
Have to respect the CAMRY LE with 28/39 mpg even though the V6 is quicker, that fuel economy hard to pass up these days. Bad features? It is low enough to the ground so that it scrapes on sidewalks, the front doors swing open so far that you need monkey arms to reach the handles. The front spoiler scrapes on parking blocks.
@jcs480able
@jcs480able 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's a huge difference in mileage from the 3.5 V6. Certainly why the Camry V6 of that generation is relatively infrequent. In the RAV4 configuration the mileage discrepancy was much less.
@GeorgeGeo
@GeorgeGeo 11 ай бұрын
On the Hornet.. its so overpriced its insane.. you can get a full size GT Durango for the same price
@AdamJayTechnoElectro
@AdamJayTechnoElectro 10 ай бұрын
“Corolla, now with that Hybrid and AWD, you can pick one up for like $23.. $24 grand” Um, no. $25,995 is the cheapest MSRP Corolla LE Hybrid AWD
@Hiluxtaco
@Hiluxtaco 10 ай бұрын
There are so many Honda CRV's my hometown. It's like the vehicle that everyone buys. Young or Old.
@RonPoulin-p7j
@RonPoulin-p7j 11 ай бұрын
What about battery disposal, look in to it your going to surprised
@bjsimon802
@bjsimon802 11 ай бұрын
Buy the last 4runner year, they will be worth alot like the FJ. next gen 4cylinder.
@Abuzac
@Abuzac 11 ай бұрын
Yeah. But most people want a fuel economy vehicle. At least about average does.
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 10 ай бұрын
Too many of them to be worth lots of money. Hype is only reason why they started selling a lot lately. The next generation will be such a huge improvement, the older ones will dump.
@gamersgrubs2952
@gamersgrubs2952 2 ай бұрын
That new Buick is going to be on that list in a few years. Mid 20s and decent parts but no power
@Cure4pd
@Cure4pd 11 ай бұрын
you showeda picture of acharger not a challenger
@haanjamiis
@haanjamiis 11 ай бұрын
Still thinking that Toyota should have replaced NiMH with LiFePO battery. Double the energy density and double the lifespan.
@davidparkin9017
@davidparkin9017 10 ай бұрын
Sorry, that V6 has very long timing chains that give problems and the plastic timing chain tensioners wear out.
@usernameisusername
@usernameisusername 11 ай бұрын
My favorite part about tfl is how long they take to get to the point so that they can extend the video and make more ad revenue
@smithjones1906
@smithjones1906 11 ай бұрын
My favorite part is reading the stupid comments.
@Kahless00
@Kahless00 11 ай бұрын
Everyone should be running adblock no matter what. It's dangerous not to.
@usernameisusername
@usernameisusername 11 ай бұрын
@@smithjones1906 simp
@gregfrost8808
@gregfrost8808 10 ай бұрын
Frankly I suspect not a single youtuber that reviews cars has ever driven a Kia Hyundai for server years as they all say they are great. As an owner of a kia product, I can say we will never own one again. The SUV was reasonable to purchase, but the cost of ownership is ridiculous. Any time any work needs to be done, it's over priced. It's 2014 now, but the issues started in 2018. As the time went on, the paint clearcoat started peeling, the hatch release work 1/3 of the time, and it burns oil. All items have been looked at by the dealer and we were told it's normal.
@mplslawnguy3389
@mplslawnguy3389 10 ай бұрын
QC isn't there for Korean cars, but people keep buying them.
@netomartinez1512
@netomartinez1512 9 ай бұрын
2021 Toyota Tundra with 22k miles at the dealership with valley plate leak not working reliable…. Going be looking to trade it because can’t be doing a leak fix ever 20k miles
@neilbruce123
@neilbruce123 10 ай бұрын
I have 179,000 miles on my Ford Ranger sport and still going strong.
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