The New 2025 Nissan Frontier Has Arrived! Is This the Midsize Truck You've Been Waiting For?

[@Deshawnb13]

The frontier is starting to become the Tacoma that people loved, not flashy, naturally aspirated, reliable, and simple.

[@Calislav96]

Seems flashy to me

[@nastysoda9212]

yep, which is absolutely insane and depressing

[@scotturich]

I actually know a couple of Nissan Engineers and one of them has one of these to tow his racecar. He said the 3.8 is the most reliable in their lineup. They didn’t get a very big budget to develop things so they focused on chassis and engine over technology. He said it’s just a simple well built truck and because of that it’s a good value as well.

[@Damian-nj9tl]

That's good to know. On the tranny front, do you know if the mercades sourced 9spd is any good?

[@beexiong2995]

@@scotturich I don't know if you know anything but the VQ engine started back in the 90s lol. Pretty sure they didn't spend much time on the engine.

[@aerynlovell4754]

The 4.3L Vortec that was in the S10/Sonoma had several versions. Car manufacturers always try to improve the efficiency or fuel economy. I assume that Nissan would do something similar by making small changes or improvements to the engine. Most people see it as the same engine, but engineers are always tinkering and changing something.

[@swamp_rat_fla1126]

I test drive a 23’ and the hard steering was a dealbreaker for me. For other folks it might not matter. The engine and tranny are solid.

[@wax333]

New frontier looks like the Mitsubishi L200

[@LukeEdward]

The 6ft bed is a game changer. $51k+ is a deal breaker.

[@ryansheard8092]

Why?? $51K isn't that bad and it's the MSRP. You could get it for $45K probably.

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

That's for a fully loaded one, a mid level taco can easily get more expensive. Plus, Nissan often will reduce the price if you negotiate.

[@chrispellicci6587]

Anything over 50k.. better have a turbo or V8

[@ryansheard8092]

@@chrispellicci6587 based on what?

[@palebeachbum]

@@chrispellicci6587 The only trucks with a turbo have it to make up for their smaller engine sizes.

[@mitchstein288]

Wow... Reading through these comments, most people love the Frontier for it's simplicity. I'll bet Nissan and the other manufacturers did not see this coming. I'm sure they're taking notes now. This is awesome.

[@ProCoach2373]

I'm thinking the opposite. I've been a Toyota guy for almost 15 years and I buy them for simplicity and reliability. That information is readily available here and on forums. It wouldn't surprise me if Nissan did this on purpose for people like me. I would choose this truck over a new Tacoma and I'm close to getting out of my Tundra. I'm seriously considering a mid-size.

[@jceechure2016]

I really want to see it run rough thought an off road course

[@Calislav96]

@@jceechure2016it’s capable but definitely not a trd pro

[@aaronberg5708]

Lol yea it doesn't blow a shock, tranny or cv joint while the camera is on. Actually, it doesn't have any issues as of this moment. Let's count how many the tacoma has. Nvm the tundra. Let's not open that can of shit worms. ​@@Calislav96

[@4rr44E]

I have a ‘22 Pro-4X and have 50,000 miles on it with zero issues. I’ve lifted it 2 inches and put on KMC wheels and Mickey Thompson Baja Boss on it. Love the truck and consistently get between 22-22.5mpg in the highway. All for under $43K.

[@Tool0GT92]

Weird these smaller trucks don't get any better gas mileage than the half tons. Even my old 2014 Hemi Ram with over 100k miles would get 23-24mph highway

[@forkthepork]

@@Tool0GT92 They're twice as heavy as they were in the 90's. They're not small trucks anymore, just reduced footprint trucks.

[@1antisupercat]

The new mid size trucks are nearly the same footprint as my gmt 400 was. They’re much larger than they used to be, size and weight.

[@bryanlewis2867]

I also have a 22 Pro 4X loaded with every single option I could possibly get at the time. And I still was somewhere around 45-ish. I’ve only got 27,000 miles on it now.

[@JJsGA]

​@@1antisupercatmy 2024 Pro-4X is only slightly larger then my 2006 GMC Canyon. Same cab and bed configuration. I'd say the Frontier has stayed fairly small since 2005.

[@thelonglastexpert]

The highly underrated pickup on the market offers the most reliable design with the 3.8L VQ38DD engine. It may not stand out in terms of performance, but it's part of the legendary VQ engine series, known for their indestructibility. Just don’t forget to install an oil catch can, as the direct fuel injection is the only minor downside to this engine’s reliability. As for the transmission, you’ll find comments online like, “Oh, it’s Jatco. If it wasn’t for the transmission’s reputation, I’d buy the truck.” Guys, stop spreading this nonsense. It’s a 9-speed automatic from Mercedes, and don’t let that scare you because this transmission is considered one of the most reliable ones ever made by the brand. The Frontier is the last old-school pickup for real men who value reliability over showiness.

[@brandon_buildsDIY]

I was gonna say the exact same thing but you nailed it bro. In 3 years when I am done using my 11 pathfinder LE I’ll upgrade to a 2024.

[@AB-coyote]

The prior Jatco unit in the 05 - 19 is also very reliable and so was the 4 speed in the Frontiers that came in the 1st gen. Both Jatcos will be more reliable than the 9 speed.

[@Cloud30000]

Ah yes, Mercedes, a company known for reliability and longevity…

[@bobcook8576]

Nissan has the ZF 9 speed nearly perfected. Nice and smooth and zero issues. My 22 infiniti Qx60 rides so well.

[@antoniocognato5023]

​@@bobcook8576 any word on new 25 pathfinder yet? v6 carry over? i hope

[@Blue-moon12]

I've never bought a truck because of how quick it is, or what bells and whistles it has. Practicality and reliability are my priorities.

[@TermlessHGW]

Practicality, reliability and comfort level inside is literally all that matters when buying a vehicle.

[@Blue-moon12]

@@TermlessHGW Agree 100%

[@aaronberg5708]

Then the frontier is probably the truck for you.

[@benjaminaguirre5755]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, But this is THE BEST decision for a mid size currently. I have heard no issues with the 3.8L and 9 speed. And nothing from the rest of the truck. And I don't think it completely breaks the bank either $$.

[@AlowisciousMahoney]

A matter of a person’s individual needs and preferences I’d say. But for me, yes.

[@palebeachbum]

In terms of cost to purchase and predicted long-term reliability, the Frontier is the best option at this point.

[@pathunter7003]

It is underpowered and with the gray truck it has no payload. Towing 6500 lbs and just a driver and it’s at its maximum . That’s a 1/4 ton vehicle specs

[@TermlessHGW]

​@@pathunter7003payload is laughable. Everyone keeps craping on the Ridgeline for not being a "proper" truck yet it's payload is almost 1600 lbs.

[@pathunter7003]

@@TermlessHGW the honda is not made like a regular truck with a frame so it is not considered a proper truck. It does have a payload of about 1550 lbs but still can only tow 5000 lb. Thats where the payload comes into play

[@brandon_buildsDIY]

Smart people, who value their monies and just what a TRUCK. This is the truck for you! The motor is rock solid(VQ series been out since 2000) the trans is a jatco but DESIGNED by Mercedes (proven reliable trans). Nothing can beat a V6 in a mid size truck.

[@palebeachbum]

The previous generation used a Jatco transmission and it is very reliable.

[@atg1338]

Or people can buy what ever they want

[@stevem9590]

I think the transmission is made by ZF out of Germany...not Jatco.

[@felipeburns4233]

​@@stevem9590 I think that Jatco paid the rights to produce a carbon copy of the ZF. It's a ZF built at Jatco.

[@91CavGT5]

@@stevem9590 there are a few manufacturers who have gotten the rights to reproduce the ZF transmission.

[@kuhndog-1196]

I just drove one of these a few days ago. Great little truck. Really comfortable.

[@ericlebowski1807]

Good review of the refresh, your original video of the Gen 3 Frontier helped me decide to buy my 2022. 14k miles later and not a single issue in 2.5 years of ownership.

[@johnandbethzurick5660]

I just returned from a cross-country trip in my 2022 Pro 4x Frontier from Niagara Falls to Nevada City, California. This truck delivered on all my wants! Both on the highway and off-road at the Yuba, I freaking love this truck!

[@650tonyd]

I used to live in Grass Valley

[@KamalaTheClown]

Still better than the new Tacos

[@THX5000]

Check the Nissan's frame welds (or lack of welds) before you buy.

[@billybobbob3003]

@@THX5000 thats been corrected and its still better

[@yissibiiyte]

​@@THX5000Check if the Taco's front axle is still there before you buy one

[@celularphone]

​@@THX5000i love that all the new trucks cost tons of money but are trash cimpared to their mud 2000 counterparts

[@JJsGA]

​@@THX5000 1 frame reported 😂 how many did Toyota replace in the Tacoma for risk of breaking? Hows your transmission? How's your shocks, blow them thru the hats yet?

[@marksullivan8200]

The frontier will last 300k + miles 4cyl turbos well we'll see but I'd put my money on the frontier lasting 25 yrs properly maintained

[@DaleWilly]

They both should if properly treated.

[@willcarter495]

The engines will last. I’m not sure about the rest of it. My experience with Nissan was a lot of electrical gremlins

[@kjrehberg]

Until the manufacturing defects start adding up. Otherwise I'd still be driving my 2007 Frontier.

[@marksullivan8200]

@@willcarter495 back in the day that was true with many manufacturers but these days they mostly use the same vendors & parts

[@marksullivan8200]

@@kjrehberg the new frontier has lots of different things like Dana axles & billstien shocks much like jeeps & hd mopars the transmission is a Mercedes design licensed to jaytco to assemble & the engine was engineered using both the old Nissan & the penestar engine used in jeeps & dodge trucks both long lasting durable engines 2 vehicles that are different in many ways from other Nissan is both the frontier & the z their midsized trucks & their high performance z car are built differently than other Nissans & lots of attention has been put on both vehicles to turn company around

[@kellymoore256]

I have a 2023 Pro 4X…Just tripped 20K miles..Only had a couple issues, The infotainment console went out and took 4 months to get a replacement…I was wanting a Taco, but after driving several I was disappointed with them..Toyota just didn’t bring it…Test drove the Pro 4X….I was 10 miles down the road and knew this truck was for me….Everything just felt right…

[@MrGimmethreesteps]

That’s actual terrible the screen went out and it took 4 months to replace. I want one of these trucks, but that is not good

[@TheSmittysGarage]

Z1 Off Road in GA offers a lot support for this truck as well. There's also a supercharger in the works.

[@thedude828-ed2nn]

I have 2nd gen to bad they don't make a supercharger for mine I know stillen did at one point but no more. I just recently titan swapped mine got radflo 2.0s and z1 uca's I'm really liking it. Being able to titan swap these vehicles and still have the price below a Tacoma is a no brainier for me.

[@johnhahn8464]

​@@thedude828-ed2nnwhat's the titan swap?

[@joma13344]

@@johnhahn8464 Since the frontier and the titan share the same frame, you can put titan oem suspension mixed with aftermarket parts to get more suspension travel. Makes the front 3-4 inches wider. And you can get around 10 inches of travel while spending considerably less than a long travel kit for another vehicle.

[@jeanclaude7018]

I know what you mean about the asymmetric thing on the wheel! But I do like the overall design. Driving Nissan trucks since age 10 in the 70s. Come document my 1987 Hardbody if you're ever in Northern CA. Just hit 430,000 miles, and I gifted it with a new starter and water pump from Rock Auto for $100. 106 searing HP from the Z24i engine. No touch screen or tilt wheel. Love it, and they should reintroduce this little beast.

[@nikonmark37814]

My first Nissan pickup truck was a 1986 Hard body and it was a hard working truck. It had a bench seat, 5 speed and no a/c, about as basic as it gets.

[@patrickharty9214]

I own a 2024 Nissan Frontier SV 4X4 long bed. When I bought the truck, they did not offer a Pro 4X with a long bed (6'). I have put 4000 miles on it driving across Texas in less than 4 months. I absolutely love it. I bought it for 43,000. The only issue I have is that the warranty will not be honored if I lift it due to its long bed configuration, as explained by Nissan rep.

[@shiftmotorsports9803]

It's definitely the best naturally aspirated midsize truck

[@milehigh_onthefly]

Just hit 60k on my 2021 Frontier Midnight with the 3.8l V6 that I purchased new. Regular oil changes, and it's solid.

[@erickisel8668]

@The Fast Lane Truck: I think the high end price comparison is unfair. The Pro 4X is more like Tacoma TRD Off Road, Ranger FX4, Colorado Trailboss, and Canyon AT4.

[@moisesmurillo3371]

Exactly! I was thinking the same thing.

[@mitchstein288]

I was thinking the same, comparing this truck to a Ranger Raptor is a bit unfair, as it is less money as well. Give Nissan another $5-$10K to put into performance upgrades and that'd be super interesting.

[@mikeburdette6633]

And probably the Willys Gladiator, instead of the Rubicon X

[@ruffriding2k2]

A loaded TRD offroad is still going to be 5k+ more than a loaded Pro4x with a 4 cylinder turbo and new gen problems..

[@JJsGA]

​@@mitchstein288 hell the 5k in savings I can do a titan swap with 3in of lift and 33s. Bump that to 10k and I can do what I mentioned AND swap in the titan front diff with a locker in it. Just adding a locker with the initial 5k would make it superior to a Tacoma or a trailboss/at4 and FX4. For reference, my almost fully loaded Pro-4X was 48k out the door.

[@jonathanmatthew5451]

Just picked up 2024 pro-4x. Love it, was considering a tacoma but 3rd gens cost too much for what you get.. And didn't want the turbo 4 in the 4th Gen.

[@chrisanderson4799]

I looked long and hard and a month ago I bought a Frontier Pro 4X. I liked that it was a proven platform, with simple systems, and was truck like, but with some modern features I’ve owned 26 trucks in my life from every manufacturer, and this is my second Nissan. My go to was always the F150. I’ve had 8. I used to be a GM guy but after 3 of the 4 I had being POS I will not even consider them. Toyota is over rated although the one I had was a great truck and traded it a 160,000 over rust concerns To me Nissan has the best light trucks right now. The Titan is underrated as is the Frontier

[@Joe-cu4hi]

I test drove a slightly used 2023 and my jaw dropped! It drove like a dream, steering was great, power was so responsive. The cab was a great size and it looks so good

[@jon27d]

I'll keep driving my 2008 Pathfinder. Pushing 220,000 miles and still running great. It's nice to see that Nissan hasn't strayed from the DNA that makes their frontier line great. My goal is to swap to a frontier once my pathy finally gives up the ghost. Maybe it'll be one of these in 10 years! Lol

[@race4me1]

Had 3 Pathfinders, 1993 blew up a transmission @ 55,000 miles, 1998 frame rotted out from underneath it and 2009 radiator/transmission cooler blew and took out the engine at 65,000 miles. All three were driven by my wife and maybe saw a couple of gravel roads but no trail riding. Also had a 2003 and still driving my 2014. We liked all of them but the build quality and reliability just don't measure up to other 4X4's that are available. My wife now drives a 2021 Telluride with 47,000 miles with no problems to date except for a couple of minor recalls. Nissan as a corporation is in financial trouble and has not kept up with other manufactures. No more Nissan's for this family.

[@juancamaney7700]

Love how they keep it simple, buttons, emergency brake the old way, natural aspiration etc

[@slmjake]

Great video Andre! Maybe Ford and GM can borrow a Nissan Engineers measuring tape since theirs goes to 6 feet!

[@TFLtruck]

Yea!

[@shannoncasper8670]

The Nissan engine is great. No turbo and no cylinder deactivation. Simple and reliable.

[@chrisdakins2010]

Nissan had that engine mated to a manual transmission in the previous gen Frontier. I wish they’d offer a manual now. I’d buy that truck for sure if it had a manual!

[@rjasonw74]

Even at the higher price this is still a bargain when comparing similarly equipped midsize pickups. My 22 Frontier is going strong with zero issues.

[@IrishDevil78]

My ‘24 Crew Cab SV LWB 4x4 has been great. 11K miles so far, 20 mpg highway @ 80mph, and comfortable ride on road trips. I plan on adding a 2” lift when it comes time to put some tires on it. I paid $40K out the door for mine.

[@Amarony]

How is the turning radius? Any challenges with that aspect as a LWB?

[@daywalker4029]

@@Amarony the turning radius hasn't changed since the truck came out in 2005. it's a truck though, i have no issues with 3 point turns if need be.

[@IrishDevil78]

@@Amarony see comment below yours, I concur with that. Not the best turn radius, but it mirrors the 2007 Crew Cab Silverado Z71 I had before this.

[@johnhahn8464]

40k otd including all fees and taxes? Is it bare bones? That's a he'll of a price?

[@IrishDevil78]

@@johnhahn8464 sorry, I rounded down actually, it was $40,642 out the door all in. It’s an SV 4x4 trim, heated seats, heated steering wheel, power everything, spray in bed liner, cargo rail system, Apple CarPlay, backup camera, it does have cloth interior. Leather is only available on the Pro models and SL. I live and bought in Mississippi if that helps, February of this year.

[@Not_So_Weird_in_Austin]

Frontier is the reliable bright spot in Nissans entire lineup... A 2015 109k mile Pathfinder owner with extended warranty that fixed my continuous variable transmission issue here...

[@thedude828-ed2nn]

I currently have a titan swapped 2nd gen frontier that i never intend on getting rid of i love these trucks. Ill throw a vk56 v8 in mine when my 4.0 goes on me. These trucks are so inder rated.

[@francislegayada1783]

Who remembers the Final frontier here on TFL that was under 20k in 2017

[@qasimw.4502]

Wow😮

[@anajay78]

It was also a manual.

[@maplelodge2]

Patiently awaiting a new Frontier based Xterra

[@anydaynow01]

Yep with a Z engine, make the Xterra the "Raptor" version of the Frontier!

[@patrickmartin9046]

I have a 2010 Nissan Frontier with the previous iteration of this V6. I have 130,000 miles on it with 0 problems. Considering getting a 2024 Titan, but probably get another frontier. I have a 2WD currently, mid-level trim. Nice, basic truck. I don't want fancy, I want reliable and a truck that will tow and haul. Frontier will do that. Long term reliability is yet to be determined for all these new small displacement 4 cyl. engines with turbo. Right now it does not look good....recalls all over the place. You know who does'nt have a bunch of recalls? Nissan, titan or frontier. I love the analog controls...digital where it makes sense. Keep it up Nissan! BTW, very comfortable on long trips. Owned this truck for over a decade...great truck, it doesn't pretend to be anything else.

[@sweethands4328]

No turbos, buttons, alalog gauges.... Less to go wrong. I predict these trucks will be on the road longer than thier competitors on average. We will see.

[@TheNgp90]

51 is a lot. BUT if you buy it used you’ll get a killer deal. I got a 2023 pro4x with 33k miles for 32,000( bought in 2024)

[@phw2274]

For basically the same truck, at a great deal you are correct. I bought a 2022 with low miles for$32,000 with a 125,000-mile bumper to bumper no deductible warranty last year. It's been an awesome trouble-free truck. I saved thousands on new.

[@jedmontgomery9696]

That’s really the way to go, heck in may still have a bit of new car smell to it!

[@SasukeUchiha-zu6dw]

Yep let someone else take the hit on initial depreciation

[@TheAverageFisherman99]

Manufacturers are absolutely COMPLETELY out of their f-ing MINDS with the prices for these small trucks.

[@shannoncasper8670]

I have a '22 Pro X and love it. I average about 24mpg just normal driving, but I have getting power when I need it. My truck is made to be tough and reliable. That's what's important to me.

[@robertyoung8289]

Love my 24. Luxury grade comfort. Powerful engine. Saturday i had to make a quick run 100 miles away. 80 mph all the way. Less than 2000 RPM. End results? 29 mpg!!

[@AlanPhillips-g1c]

Must of had a 30mph tailwind to get that mpg

[@robertyoung8289]

@@AlanPhillips-g1c Nope. No tail wind. Just a amazing truck.

[@therealronniej]

I really hope to start seeing this truck on the road as much as I see Tacomas! What a fantastic truck!

[@GrayLineOverland]

Andre you can’t compare the bison edition to the pro 4 X more like the standard zr2 with options which is still gonna be the value leader in my opinion and offer front and rear lockers

[@WW-wf8tu]

Nicely done Andre. I do like the looks of the truck. I like a lot about it actually. I like the Hardbody edition best from last year. And it a big let down that they only did 1 year production of it! That being said, I think I agree with you. The Ford Ranger probably would take my money in this segment too. But this is def. a runner up. IF the FRR did not exist the value one gets from the Nissan Frontier is phenomenal.

[@brandon_buildsDIY]

VQ engines are very happy at high rpm.

[@JohnC-hj3dr]

Well I will say that you can get the price in that frontier pro4x allot lower then 51000 most of the options you didn't really need on there and can get it into 45k but if your going for the bigger truck with bigger tires, go aftermarket spend 2000-6000 put the lift kit& rims and tires And still save another 9000 over the other competition! Still a much better buy then the others that are going fully digital!! As for me id buy this get a 2.5 in lift kit (580) from rough country and change the tires and be happy! Overall the Nissan is 100% bang for your buck and the value minded vehicle for the majority of truck buyers out here!

[@Tradhunter]

That’s great a truck I hope they keep the natural aspirated engine.

[@brochilldude]

Underrated truck

[@StardustADV]

The only nissan you should buy, also the only new midsize truck someone should probably buy. Though me, if i get one i will get a used one, can't afford anything new in this econony right now, but these trucks also don't change that much, so used one would be fine.

[@arcsolomon6360]

its not your money...

[@LionX27]

I have a 2023 Nissan frontier pro x with 22k miles so far, and no issues, very pleased with the truck just wish I waited for one of these 2025 models with 6ft beds

[@Dusdaddy]

I don't see how a Pro-4x compares to the other brands "Halo" trucks. They need a lot more before they can equal a ZR2, Trailhunter, or a Raptor. It has locking rear diff and that's about it so the same as a Ranger FX4, Canyon AT4, Tacoma Off-road, or Chevy TrailBoss (with lots of options).

[@jamesbeaman6337]

That was my thought too. Folks shopping for those trucks with the highest off road capabilities from Ford, Chevy/GMC and Ford likely won’t be comparing them to the Pro-4x.

[@timmead3021]

I agree with this. I think the pro-4x is competitive against mid level trucks like the TRD off road but nissian needs to make another trim to be able to be compete.

[@upshifter5316]

Ya I was confused, and it was probably a comparison at Nissans request. A Pro4x matches up more with an FX4 Ranger, TRD Off Road Tacoma or TrailBoss/AT4 Canyorado.

[@is6566]

Even the TRD Off-road Taco is a stretch because that truck can be had with a disconnecting sway bar. The Pro 4X is rear locker only and that’s it as you said. So the Taco has higher off road capability.

[@joshc606]

This truck isn’t a halo truck. It’s an FX4 competitor. Come on people.

[@yardboy3955]

I’d buy the PRO-X 4x2 or Ranger XLT 2.7 v6 twin turbo, both with the least amount of options. I don’t camp, tow or go off road, Just want a truck to carry my bike that kicks ass on the highway when I step on it. Love the Frontier for the drivetrain, buttons and less technology, power is more than enough. Love the Ranger for cleaner look and the higher torque. Thanks for review.

[@Thankyou_3]

Nissan! You guys nailed it. Keep going strong, you will knock of Tacoma and other low quality mid size trucks from GM and Ford. As for Honda Ridgeline it’s a minivan platform with unibody 😂 it’s not even a truck. Absolute nonsense Honda! Nissan, don’t change anything from this truck. Reliability of a vehicle will cover any lack of capabilities. No one pushes their truck to the limit especially on a mid size truck. I am going to get this Nissan once my Tacoma gives up the ghost.

[@georgekaiser2395]

When did the meaning of truck change? The definition of truck has nothing to do with being or not being a unibody platform, stop being a dork.

[@hhjones9393]

Fun fact: I bought a 1988 King Cab SE V6 new in December 1987. Adjusted for inflation the new version of the same truck which is bigger, twice the HP, has airbags and ABS along with all the other modern features costs less that 10% more. Nissan is still the best value for a truck this size.

[@DanielGeer-bg7hv]

Give me a N/A Engine any day. Less stress, more reliable. I had a 2022 Frontier on lease, and if the residual wasn't so bad I'd still have it. I got 24mpg in the city no problem. The plastic on the tailgate is AWEFUL - and I am not a fan of new wheels or grill either. I REALLY hate the name of the truck on the dash. I know what I am driving.

[@egregiousblunder5395]

24 mpg city driving? BS.

[@lolotus4borderless]

Owner of a pro4X 2023 needed a truck for hauling. after 1 year and about 20k I can’t part from it. No issues. It’s plain Jane nothing fancy but I can’t part from it, she is been such a good friend ;)

[@qx4n9e1xp]

The perfect truck for people wanting to upgrade their Tacomas.

[@HAHA.GoodMeme]

Fronteir owners look at my truck and drool, not the other way around. There is no upgrade for the 3rd gen Tacoma.

[@DaleWilly]

downgrade*

[@daywalker4029]

@@HAHA.GoodMeme lol no they do not. there is an upgrade, it's the 2nd gen tacoma. which had a not underpowered v6 and an automatic transmission that actually knew what gear it wanted to be in without needing a tune, also the new 4th gen taco drives infinitely better than a 3rd gen and actually has decent power while also not needing to be 5 ft 8 or smaller to fit in it properly lol

[@atg1338]

Or a truck alot of people don't want to down grade to....

[@mitchstein288]

Love this Frontier. I simply do not care that it is not as powerful, or fast, or has as much ground clearance as the other midsize trucks. In fact, that's why I like it. It's a simple big displacement V6. Andre summed it up best; it's an honest truck. I also think it's the best looking midsize as well. I'm so glad they added telescoping wheel as well for 2025. If this had ProPilot it'd be sitting in my driveway right now Nissan! Also, it's not a deal breaker, but please put some cameras on this truck that have better resolution!

[@tomiam79]

I will not be paying these insane prices. I will just keep the car I have.

[@nikonmark37814]

I recently purchased a 24 Frontier 4x2 because I don't go off road and I've never had a use for a 4x4. I'm 68 and retired and my truck does everything I need it to. I wish Nissan would update their 1990's camera tech, the backup camera in my 2019 Honda Insight is tack sharp and has better tech than the newer truck too!

[@mikejones762]

new midsize king

[@wolfgang_h3t]

It very much isn't. Which is the point, kings are refined, prestigious, pricey

[@atg1338]

Not at all🤣🤣🤣🤣 still behind the times,.... duh

[@JCourts2k23]

I remember when the Frontier had a Supercharged engine, that v6 would be nice supercharged. Those 3 “vents” in the front remind me of the Nissan Hardbody trucks we had growing up, had a 88 king cab that had 288k miles when we traded it in for a 97 single cab Hardbody, and i remember that look

[@ryanmerkel9167]

Jesus, you’re not taking photos of things with the cameras. They do just fine. I don’t need HD.

[@jonrdahlin4390]

Right! And then when they put fancy cameras on, people can't afford them

[@MrMikeDao]

Jesus, youre not carrying the whole country. A wagon and horse will do just fine hauling. No one needs internal combustion

[@jonrdahlin4390]

LOL Calm down Mrbudy...it's gonna be ok. No need to get all fired up.

[@MrMikeDao]

@@jonrdahlin4390 lmao just feeding the same logic

[@jonrdahlin4390]

@@MrMikeDao LOL

[@Mike-In-O-Town]

Hey Andre, if you're choosing the Ranger Raptor make sure to open a lot of time in your schedule for recalls and warranty work. Ford does not have their act together across the board right now.

[@josephshealey]

I have a 2010 frontier with 298k. It's got the 4.0 vq.

[@ra_redesignautomobiles]

As a Toyota Nissan and Ram Fanatic, i am watching this inside my 2024 Nissan Terra diesel

[@Arkeo36]

I'll keep saying it - maybe someone is focus grouping this at nissan usa - the coolest and cheapest way nissan could get the frontier to stand out from the rest of the class is to install the 5.6 v8 from the titan and armada which is just lying around after those models have been discontinued.

[@robertpoirier8520]

I agree. I have a midsize Pathfinder. It’s a 2008 4WD with the Nissan VK56. That V8 is outstanding in a mid size.

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

The 3.5 twin turbo from the 2025 Armada/Patrol would be sick in this truck. Granted, I prefer the N/A v6 for longevity and lower maintenance costs, especially long term.

[@TheSmittysGarage]

You and I know both know that wont happen. The MPGs won't be any better, and the VD engines are not as reliable as the legacy DEs.

[@Arkeo36]

@@TheSmittysGarage sadly you are right that it most likely will not ever happen, but I am interested to hear your point of view regarding reliability. I have not heard anyone commenting on the newer iterations of the vk56 being less reliable. Is it because direct injection was added?

[@TheSmittysGarage]

​@@Arkeo36somewhat. The HP fuel pump lifter bucket wear/failures, timing components, cylinder 7, etc. I sold parts for these for three years and helped build the largest parts catalog/kits for the Nissan trucks segment.

[@jamesmcfaddin1789]

What I like about the Frontier is that it just works. No engine failures; no maxed-out turbo systems for “fuel economy’s sake; no constant transmission issues.

[@IKnewMickey]

Towing pkg is charged twice? On the window sticker, Towing is in the Pro Convenience pkg and listed separately as a towing pkg. What up with that?

[@aaronsmegmasson7184]

good catch

[@grudzien9784]

Hey guys, I have the 2022 model and yes, the 6 foot bed is a game changer. I wish mine had a 6 foot bed with the full cab that I have what I mean is full size cab I should say. The grill update is going silly, especially since it’s not functional. As far as the engine goes, I’ve been driving this thing for three years now I’ve bought it in 2021. I have 72,000 miles on it and no issues. It’s a great engine. Why change anything if the engine perfect is perfect, I am glad that they are changing the head unit display because mine is crap and it’s already broken. I also wish Nissan would increased our warranty to 100,000 miles 36,000 miles. I cross that in the first year and after that, my car is out of warranty, so that sucks as far as the rest of the truck it’s great you almost forget about the non-telescoping steering wheel. It just goes up and down and also I have the SV so in 2022, which just model Yaris you should have only LED headlights and mine does not, if you wanna upgrade to the same headlights as the pro 4X you can buy them for $1000 each light so two grand just to upgrade your headlights. You can get them used on eBay I guess all right I’m talking too much. this is a great truck do not change the engine, unless you wanna put a V8, I will be sweet

[@rodjones812]

Old tech, old truck, should be significantly cheaper than the competition

[@jc6618]

Not necessarily. Would you rather pay 50k for a reliable and proven platform with some older tech or 50k for new untested platform with great tech but consistent issues? It depends where the buyer places their value.

[@cardude1992]

What is old about it? It has a giant screen.

[@CACressida]

​@cardude1992 my FJ is a 2007 and for $900, it's got a screen and 360° camera system. I'm pretty sure Nissan didn't spend a huge amount of money to do a similar upgrade to justify the price bump.

[@jackhammerpka]

Depends on what you mean by old tech, the passive safety engineering that went into the chassis is not outdated at all....

[@stefantaylor6011]

The simplicity is what does it for me!

[@DanDelzell]

I'm glad I got the '24. Not enough new to justify the cost and there are deals out there on them. I wish the tie downs were at the bottom of the bed. Why they need to be high when you have the rails is a design miss in my opinion.

[@tehwickerman]

Just FYI, you can buy floor rails from Z1 off-road and the install doesn't look too difficult.

[@DanDelzell]

@@tehwickerman Thanks. That's on my list to do sometime.

[@daywalker4029]

why they removed the floor utilitrack has always confused me. i use my floor tracks way more than my bed side ones.

[@Leonmiller407]

I think it’s a great looking truck. I’d get the long bed. I don’t plan on towing anything. I just want enough room in the bed I can actually put things in. Another reason I’d check this out is Nissan’s zero gravity seats. The 25 really checks all of the boxes for me.

[@robertsn6584]

Andre is a major ford fan boy . Raptor is 12,000 more than this pro 4 x . Since 98% of people aren't biting these fully loaded trucks , how about you drive the sv models .l that are in the low to mid 40 thousand dollar range

[@theirthereandtheyre2947]

👏🏻 good on Nissan for listening to customers. Just wish it had a grab handle on the driver’s side A pillar.

[@Gbus85302]

Nissan needs to offer there 3.0L V6 Twin Turbo in the Frontier

[@prestondeters5093]

The engine is not underpowered for the loads this truck can haul. I think people forget that half ton trucks just 15-20 years ago were barely getting over 300 horsepower and torque. This engine has plenty of power and more than double the gear ratios than those older trucks. Everyone is just spoiled by the power of modern turbocharged engines.

[@shaniyoung6506]

I would buy it as a pro4x in afterburnt orange

[@ProfessorNugget]

Another great video guys i really appreciate you guys putting in the clips of the truck tests you guys have done with the truck. Keep it up!

[@TFLtruck]

Thank you for watching.

[@cpftank09]

You guys focus on payload on this channel. To be honest, it’s not that big of selling point to many people. 99% of people will rarely put more than 500lbs in the bed and then the rest of that 1% doesn’t care what the payload rating is going to overload it anyways.

[@georgemburu4177]

100%

[@Commentleaver-c6x]

Absolutely, I don’t know anyone who even considers payload when buying a truck, and they will easily haul a lot more than they are rated for.

[@slmjake]

Proven powertrain+ Crew cab with 6 foot bed + 60 40 rear seat + Knobs and switches + A dash that doesnt look like a glued on IPAD + Ford and Chevy, hold my beer.😢

[@Camaro45th]

How is Nathan doing? It’s been radio silence since he announced he was heading to California.

[@Alex-ce8ln]

Hashtag# where is Nathan? 😂😂

[@charliekk3377]

Motorweek took him hostage

[@jamesbeaman6337]

He has been on other TFL channels several times since then

[@ostromadventures]

The 6ft bed is cool. I agree with Andre I never thought I would see a Frontier over 50k.

[@davep4610]

Sad. So a Pro4X long bed looks capable, but only has a payload rating of 940 pounds. That is pathetic. If you had a trailer in the 5,000 pound range the truck would be maxed-out with the trailer and one or two people but no other luggage. Claiming a tow rating over 7,000 does not allow for a good tongue weight plus people. I will buy a truck in a few months and for a long time had planned to get a mid-size such as the Frontier. This pretty well nails down my recent thinking that I should step up to an F-150.

[@johnhahn8464]

@@davep4610 nail hammer 🔨!

[@adamm457]

My 2020 Frontier only has 42,100 miles, but the VQ38DD is a dream! Much better than the VQ40DE in my 2005 Pathfinder!

[@jasonperry7970]

They really need to put the GT R engine into one to really slap everyone down.

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

Yup, revive the desert runner name and have it go against the ranger raptor.

[@Calislav96]

Almost forgot nissan had the gtr and lady z in their line up shows you how poor nissan is at marketing themselves in the performance sphere

[@jedmontgomery9696]

Bring back a Nismo version!!

[@anydaynow01]

@@jedmontgomery9696 Yeah a Nismo version with a Z engine would be amazing! A GT-R powered Desert Runner would be insane.

[@daywalker4029]

if anything you could see the 3.0tt that was introduced in the new armada as a possible option. unfortunately turbo would probably be attached to a 4 cylinder.

[@Mursedave]

I’m with you Andre. Ranger Raptor is my pick, but I do think the Frontier is a great little truck.

[@sail72]

Towing 5k lbs. this Frontier has less than 500 lbs. payload remaining. A Ridgeline towing the same load has about 1k lbs. payload remaining. And the top spec. Ridgeline is significantly less expensive. Which one is a "real truck"?

[@davidjernigan8161]

Not the Ridgeline. It has no frame

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

Depends on how you use it. If you're working off pavement alot, the frontier will hold up better because the suspension is much stronger. But, if you're on pavement, the Ridgeline makes more sense, and that is bed lockable storage that can be used as a cooler is great. I live in a rural area with almost 4 miles of dirt road that can be rough, so the frontier would be more ideal long term. However. If I lived in the Ciry and didn't offroad on anything rougher than a dirt road, the Ridgeline would be my choice.

[@mattwebb6437]

The Ridgeline has a use case, but nowhere near as robust as a truck with a frame. If you overload, you may total the Ridgeline, regular frame trucks will bend frame or damage axle.

[@palebeachbum]

@@mattwebb6437 The Ridgeline starts at $8k more than the Frontier ($40k versus $32k respectively) and doesn't offer a proper 6ft bed.

[@Cloud30000]

Skip the ridgeline and get a Kei truck.

[@andypacmanperez]

I have a 22 pro4x and it has impressed the shit out of me. Amazing towing capabilities. Acceleration is awesome for the class off road it is great minus the dumb side steps from the factory that lower your ground clearance but they are easily removable. And the only real zonk is the turning radius when making a U turn 😅 that's the only part that sucks. I love that they are offering the long bed for the pro4x though. Wish I had the extra foot for when I'm transporting my kayaks.

[@smithjones1906]

I've driven two Frontiers. I liked them overall, but the NA power delivery is basically a dealbreaker at this point. If you experience the torque of a turbocharged truck, you don't really want to go back. At least I didn't.

[@phw2274]

Unless long term reliability sets in.

[@wolfgang_h3t]

​@@phw2274 The sketchy QC of Nissan is just as likely to bite you

[@acespire4603]

These handle great on dirt roads. I've gone 70 on the dirt. I wish it had an LSD so when you slide, it's not so bad. But for mountain roads, this thing is a beast on dirt roads. I wish I could make more power with it, like with a supercharger.

[@palebeachbum]

I prefer the pre-facelift design. The facelift looks tacky and overwrought with the added black plastic front and rear. That aside, the Frontier is my #1 pick among midsize trucks. The naturally aspirated 3.8L is much preferred over the smaller displacement turbo 4cyl. engines in every other competitor and it's also a better value.

[@robertyoung8289]

Yes. As a 24 owner I agree with your comments.

[@daywalker4029]

the S models do not come with the tacky tailgate applique. agreed that the new design is a bit too busy

[@robertyoung8289]

@@daywalker4029 the hood treatment was also unnecessary as well as the tacky lettering under the HVAC.

[@palebeachbum]

@@robertyoung8289 Yes, that lettering under the HVAC is tacky.

[@palebeachbum]

@@daywalker4029 I didn't realize that, but it's good to hear.

[@DuyenNguyen-ui6mo]

I like the long bed ; it actually looks better than the Tacoma TRD Off Road with a 6 FT bed. Plus with all the features it has for the price; this truck is worth the money.

[@DavidWalsh-g5i]

I wish we could get this Ute in Australia with that V6 and not the pathetic Navara 2.4 TD.

[@paulmadkow9143]

Plan on purchasing a new Frontier in November. You can pick up a pretty basic 4x4 for under 40k. The local dealers have quite a few sitting on the lots.

[@robertyoung8289]

I promise you wont be sorry.

[@mattd4979]

It's literally the 2024 with a different grille and infotainment.

[@gerhardschulzy]

Increased towing, payload, and now a 6' box for the pro4x. That's pretty good for a refresh.

[@aerynlovell4754]

Most importantly, it has proven itself, and it works. There hasn't been a massive recall like some other "high-tech" trucks on the market.

[@aaronsmegmasson7184]

And a telescoping steering wheel😎

[@SasukeUchiha-zu6dw]

Mid cycle refresh

[@crisikingful]

That long bed gimme!! I need one :/ sv trim I like the looks more after building one on Nissans site.

[@mikemissouri5152]

The ZR2 (not the Bison edition) is the best bang for the buck by far.50k. Way better suspension, front and rear lockers, 33” tires higher ground Clarence , better payload than the Nissan.

[@DanDannyDanielleBob]

I have a '23. I like my front end more and just installed a CBI covert front bumper. The telescopic steering wheel adjustment seems to be the best upgrade on this one. Wish the pro4x headlights and rear locker were available on my SV. I lifted it with an all dogs off-road Koni kit. 275 70 17 bff ko2s fit nicely and are as big as you can go with a spare in the stock location

[@desertdudechannel]

How do you like the Koni install? Looking to lift mine too.