I would love to own an E-Transit for my furniture business, but I’d like to see them increase the range to around 250+ miles per charge. Located in rural Maine, we sometimes have to travel longer distances and the charging network is still sparse. I have a Chevy Bolt EV and it has around 250+- mile range and gets me most places without needing to charge until I get home.
@12vLife2 жыл бұрын
Ram E-Promaster will be announcing their van with a 230 mile range before year end. 45k and qualifies for 7500 credit. Ford better step their game up quick.
@birdlady27252 жыл бұрын
The bolt isnt hauling weight either, which will affect range too.
@chinabluewho2 жыл бұрын
Just think if they had solar roofs , you would get another 30 to 50 miles in range daily for free as the Hyundai Sonata hybrid has a 200 watt solar panel on top and it gets 3 to 4 miles extra range a day.
@sharonbraselton4302 Жыл бұрын
buy it 3 tumé ³000 cyckes
@doubleq1223 Жыл бұрын
This is a great idea! I used to work with someone who owns a commercial dishwasher business and he also made the soap in-house, a cool dude, but he was fangirling over an electric van 6 years ago and made some great points. Being in NYC, his run never exceeded 100 miles in a day, it was usually closer to 50 miles for a round trip and that's the majority of runs vehicles do in places like NYC, that's where these electric vehicles SHINE! Also, imagine covering the roof with solar panels! You don't realize how much square footage of space you have up there and how effective solar panels would be! No exhaust and no noise pollution in an already cramped city. I'm excited to see more electric commercial vehicles.
@sharonbraselton4302 Жыл бұрын
giid fór him
@fiddlesteven Жыл бұрын
I recently bought the long, tall E Transit. I'm converting it for camping. Really enjoying it. 122 miles of range is what I'm seeing, combination 60 miles per hour highway and some short trips around town. That's what the guessometer says, but I also am seeing 2.4 average miles per kWr, so the real range is much more than 122 miles. The battery is actually larger than 68 kW. I've heard it's over 70 with 68 usable.
@juspeezy96512 жыл бұрын
i had this truck for a week now. for one pedal you either double tap the brake or put in L mode with ECo.
@ZenEndurance2 жыл бұрын
Seems like electric is awesome for in-town where you recover energy often by braking AND where you can plug it in overnight. If that's your situation, these are amazing. Road tripping and/or you live somewhere where you have to find a charger all the time? Maybe not yet.
@WillTheBassPlayer2 жыл бұрын
for sure, and that was sorta the intended design for the transit, like a delivery service of some kind that is going a defined route and is back at home base each night
@ZipZoomZip2 жыл бұрын
Too bad Tesla doesn't make a van yet.
@arenjay32784 ай бұрын
Not quite like you say. Stop and go is much better than ICE but EVs work best with steady speed. Long down hills help with Regen but stop and go uses more than steady speed.
@ZenEndurance4 ай бұрын
@@arenjay3278 hmm…. Yes, but not high steady speed. 35 mph sure. 70 no way.
@arenjay32784 ай бұрын
@@ZenEndurance 60-63mph
@Jay-me7gw2 жыл бұрын
While I find EV trucks generally silly, I really like the EV van concept a lot. I think it will fit right in to a lot of current commercial use models without issue.
@Cloud300002 жыл бұрын
Why do you find EV trucks silly? A truck with a similar purpose, like lawn maintenance equipment transported and towed locally, is a perfect use case for a similar EV pickup truck. Neither it nor this van are good for all cases (especially long travel), but for a local fleet these things are fantastic.
@ThatV8Ranger2 жыл бұрын
Walmarts by us use a bunch of these e transits for their home deliveries. Seem to work well for them!
@Jay-me7gw2 жыл бұрын
@@Cloud30000 All the lawn care people I see around here are using 10+ year old, beat to hell HD gas trucks so they can tow dump trailers and equipment trailers. I see very few 1/2 tons being used like that. Also, as seen here many times on TFL, the EV trucks get pretty poor range towing so when you spend 8-10 hour a day driving from house to house towing a trailer you are probably gunna be cutting it pretty close. Those same HD trucks get used to plow in the winter when people don't need their lawns taken care off. I am guessing some portion of the population doesnt have that issue but a good chunk does. this is another task that a EV truck is not suited for. Even the guys that come and do the weed killer and fertilizer at my house drive an F250 regular cab because the back has a massive tank of chemicals. Vans tend to have a job more in line with practical EV use.
@Cloud300002 жыл бұрын
@@Jay-me7gw wow, that is the opposite of the contractors around here. Separate HD plow trucks with heavy salters for winter, which get stored during summer in favor of full size pickups that tow ride in mowers while hauling the crew with blowers, trimmers, and other equipment. The material is either picked up by a different truck to save time and cost, or dumped at a designated composting area on site (generally down a hillside in a wooded area). Granted, we have very harsh winters and the area is fairly wealthy, so they are not just “handymen” with junk trucks that mow your lawn for a buck but actual professional contracts with well-maintained equipment or else they wouldn’t get hired.
@Cloud300002 жыл бұрын
@@Jay-me7gw I also find it interesting that you think EV trucks going house to house will have issues, but EV vans going house to house will not. I wonder if the idea of an electric pickup is more offensive then an electric van, and the actual utility of it is not relevant.
@floridamankyle54612 жыл бұрын
Waiting for an E Transit with the Lightning power and battery capacity, for me, this is the only EV I would ever buy, a Van is the perfect platform for Electric.
@scottmason20942 жыл бұрын
I drive one every day and love it!
@spillybuilt74912 жыл бұрын
This is a good video proving even if you’re having issues with the chargers, you’re not stranded yet. You had nothing but problems with your charging stops yet you still made it np
@IronmanV52 жыл бұрын
"EA.... the single biggest killer of EV adoption !"
@hybridstoatdragon2 жыл бұрын
America needs to freaking rethink the darn charging infrastructure
@ranig28482 жыл бұрын
It’s not America, it’s just Electrify America. Looks like VW who owns it is doing its best to cause people to think charging infra cannot be reliable
@1225KPH2 жыл бұрын
Charging? We don't make enough electricity to charge an all EV fleet and the national grid couldn't deliver it even if we did.
@tippytailmckitty26582 жыл бұрын
I drove the Ike Gauntlet yesterday. My ears still hurt driving from Denver to Grand Junction through the Rockies. We even had a bag of Doritos pop from the pressure changes.
@morrigansraven612 жыл бұрын
Do they have hybrid models? I think hybrids are the best option until the battery/infrastructure tech matures to a point that the anxiety isn't such a problem. Driving any distance in our society is already a stressful situation due to idiots and the never ending road work. If you add more anxiety it kills whatever pleasure you can squeeze out of a road trip.
@nujjigram2 жыл бұрын
Hybrids take up too much space inside the van . These delivery vans have short haul requirements and probably won't need the additional complication in terms of cost of carrying around a full engine
@Jay-me7gw2 жыл бұрын
This isnt meant for long distance rural driving. Its meant for local use in urban/suburban areas where charging is abundant or isnt required at all because they can accomplish the tasks on a single nightly charge. Plenty of places and jobs like that that this will work well for.
@iivaridark68502 жыл бұрын
In Europe, Ford did put a sorry turbocharged 1,0 liter inline-3 130hp gasoline engine from the little Fiesta and a small battery in a Transit Custom and wasted money on it. I think that was a complete disaster, seems to have disapppeared now. They have a small car (is it called Puma?) here and it has a 2,5 liter non-turbo gasoline engine and plug-in-system, it seems to have sold quite ok. A little surprise because I thought the engine (2,5 liter inline-4) is already outdated... They did have a modern turbocharged 1,5 liter inline-3 engine with about 185hp available but why didn't they use it, I don't know...
@natebaber45732 жыл бұрын
There is a model with a back up generator installed
@craigkoskela12532 жыл бұрын
Killing the ability to road trip IS their plan.
@jounipohjolainen26872 жыл бұрын
I read most of the comments/complaints about the size of the battery and the poor state of the charging stations. As with all EV's, the range will be better in city and the owner/operator will have their own charging station at their shop, where the van will be charged overnight. Putting in a bigger battery would add significantly to the cost of the van and make it heavier (reduced payload/cargo volume) I am sure Ford has done their market research on what range a van will need to have to work a day in a city. Also, maybe the van can be plugged in for the lunch break. I am sure they will be in high demand. Kudos to Ford.
@stephenj49372 жыл бұрын
While I don't see these being plugged in during lunch breaks, I do see significant savings for the company while their employees eat lunch in the van with the A/C running.
@PlumbRalph2 жыл бұрын
I’m very interested in how it works at max payload and in winter cold. We have a small plumbing & HVAC business and use a transit Medium roof 148”WB with the 3.5 ecoboost engine and have it loaded and get around 16mpg. We average about 40 to 50 miles a day. I’d love to know if in the dead of winter running emergency heating repairs if we’d see the range drop to 1/2 or less when it’s fully loaded and cold out before we invest in the e transit.
@alisalama85982 жыл бұрын
The low roof model does amazing for hvac, especially if you only do 50 miles. I do 80 and we doing just fine. As for winter im in Ga so im not too worried
@PlumbRalph2 жыл бұрын
Were in Massachusetts so we get pretty cold for a large part of the year so I’d need to see how it works fully loaded. I’d also want the high roof with the extended box. Loaded with shelving pipe, tools, parts, & fittings for service and repair & replacement work. It would ride around at close to max payload all the time.
@johnmorell26632 жыл бұрын
I say it's aways in the back of your mind what happens in a black out. Why aren't they putting solar panels on the roofs of these vehicles.
@heathmcintire18822 жыл бұрын
@@johnmorell2663 It might be useful in the future as solar panels improve but today they only thing solar panels on a car roof are good for is trickle charging. The amount of power an EV needs VS the amount of power a car roof can produce are very far apart.
@johnmorell26632 жыл бұрын
@@heathmcintire1882 they can make better panels for sure.
@ScottWallace52 жыл бұрын
Good updates! Definitely needs a bigger battery in my opinion. But once again, EA needs to get better with maintaining their chargers.
@verttikoo20522 жыл бұрын
You normally use this in the city where the range is longer than in the highway
@AdrianMcDaid2 жыл бұрын
Perfect city delivery vehicle
@brianwilliams93162 жыл бұрын
It would be. I wouldn’t mind seeing tests on one with larger batteries. My work day today consists of 80 miles. But I’d be loaded with tools. Some days I drive more, some days I drive less.
@2018tundra2 жыл бұрын
On the outlet the have on the back . We can’t plug 🔌 any tools because not enough range. Thanks Andy.
@Matt-dx3wo2 жыл бұрын
Love it, can't wait for the standard lightning pack to be available in the e-transit. E-Vanlife here we come.
@chinabluewho2 жыл бұрын
Just think if they had solar roofs , you would get another 30 to 50 miles in range daily for free as the Hyundai Sonata hybrid has a 200 watt solar panel on top and it gets 3 to 4 miles extra range a day.
@Actias1974 Жыл бұрын
How much extra do you pay for those 3 extra miles a day? Doesn’t seem economical
@fiddlesteven Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2023 long, tall version to convert for camping and overnight stays. I carry a lot of band PA stuff. The van is perfect for my use. The only issue I have run into, is late night drive throughs at fast food restaurants have a nine-foot height limit, so the medium roof version might be a little better if you get hungry while traveling late at night. I did manage to clear one recently though by staying to the right in the lane and being careful. Watch your height on the tall vans. My other car is also an EV. A Bolt EUV.
@dgw40492 жыл бұрын
This van is for college campus & airport shuttles. Imagine how much money car rental companies near airports will save on fuel? Also for facility maintenance workers where the workers never leave that location. Using this as an airport maintenance guy where u just go from one end of the airport to the other all day is a really good move. Imagine working at a military base and having one of these. This is useful.
@danichicago91402 жыл бұрын
As a worker on runways at a large international Airport I can assure you this is hilarious to hear. Our truck sometimes go weeks without being turned off. Imagine dodging planes on the taxiway with a low battery. Not to mention guys break everything they touch. If the diesel f350 tool bodies with cranes aren't tough enough this would last as long as a stuffed toy with my dog.
@Weak_juan2 жыл бұрын
Youd have to charge this too frequently for heavy commercial use.
@sketchyssk8shop2 жыл бұрын
All the time charging is money wasted. A gas version would take less than 5 minutes to fill up to get 300 miles of range. But you would wait hours for this thing to fill the battery from nearly flat.
@jessaphillips28462 жыл бұрын
@@Weak_juan most airport hotels have multiple vans they would just use it for like 4 hours then plug it in and unplug the fully charged van right next to it for the rest of the day.
@treboryelof19632 жыл бұрын
There is a fantastic use case for vehicles like this. What sense does it make to point out all the use cases where it doesn’t make sense!?!? My F150 Lightning can do 75% of what a gas truck can do and costs $13.00 to fill up. I am spending NO time worrying about the other 25%. There is no vehicle that does everything well, every vehicle is a trade off. But a vehicle that can do what this van does at a fuel cost of less than 1/3 of an ICE is something to celebrate not criticize!
@larkbird6 ай бұрын
5:51 The Force is strong with this one!
@eduardolopezlara79132 жыл бұрын
Yeessss this is the content you need more, not all in life are pick up trucks we are people that we use vans. Awesome video continue like that ❤😅❤
@J.Young8082 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting if they make a passenger van for airport shuttles
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
They do. The E-Transit is available as a passenger van, cargo van, or chassis-cab.
@adamackels73 Жыл бұрын
Absolute great video! I actually ordered one of these today, through Ken Garff. Mine is High Roof, Long Wheelbase (not extended). I went through $700 in fuel last month in my 2019 Chevy Express 1-ton Van. All in all, the E-Transit is about $65k with a lot of toys on it... Trading my Tesla Model Y for the down payment..
@dalejones43222 жыл бұрын
It shouldn't be so complicated to charge a vehicle. It seems strange that there are issues charging so frequently.
@chrishansel93242 жыл бұрын
I agree there shouldn't be that many charging issues which there are usually not that many charging issues. Tfl just likes to take cars out without understanding how to charge them and then getting into trouble when they don't charge properly. Not to say I haven't experienced some charging problems ie chargers being down but I understand how to charge my car on Electrify America because I use them frequently. The directions on the charger are the opposite of the way I have to charge my car. That is because that's just the way it is set up. Now tfl don't seem to do their research before trying to go on a road trip with an electric vehicle and that is why they have problems
@tarfeef1012 жыл бұрын
@@chrishansel9324 alternative phrasing: Charging networks and EV manufacturers decided to prioritize their own desires for collecting data, having user accounts, lock-in for chargers, proprietary design, etc. over actually making things easy for consumers. The instructions not being the same for all vehicles, needing accounts, cell signal, etc. are all consequences of the design choices made by involved parties. That is bad. Could TFL mitigate some of these? Yes. Does them approaching things naively and failing exemplify how the charging system is worse than it needs to be? Also yes.
@chrishansel93242 жыл бұрын
@@tarfeef101 yes I know all this that is why I'm saying that tfl dramatizes everything for views and not to take them at 100%. I'm just trying to let people on here know that don't take everything to heart that you see on tfl if you want to learn about EVs go to state of charge or out of spec entertainment watch tfl
@chrishansel93242 жыл бұрын
@@IvanLitus I'm not being biased. I'm just trying to let the people know who are interested in purchasing electric vehicles that what they see is not reality
@Animalwon2 жыл бұрын
@@chrishansel9324 Can you illustrate the PROPER WAY to charge using Electrify America so that there are NO problems?
@Dingus042 жыл бұрын
What I think is cool is at 2:08 he mentioned the battery gauge. Which looks like a fuel gauge. Funny enough, just like a fuel gauge, there is a small arrow letting you know where the charge port is located. 😂
@sharonbraselton4302 Жыл бұрын
yes
@jamesclapp69402 жыл бұрын
We just finished a 10 day trip to Glacier National Park in a 2017 Impala 3.6 V-6, got an average of 32.1 mpg with elevations of 7800 ft and temps in the high 90F speeds across Nevada were 80 mph and the speed limits in Idaho and Montana were 75 ! cost was about $425. with the lowest price fuel for 87 was $3.88 with the high of $4.39
@adamharris26742 жыл бұрын
All these questions "How Will it work loaded, towing, in winter, blah blah blah..." You already know the answer to ALL these questions is..less range.
@carlosjavier95842 жыл бұрын
Place the order on mine July 15 still waiting lol I’m here in Aurora Colorado seen many getting 150 miles plus on this van cost for Mantaince and charge is gonna blow my Mercedes Sprinter expense away !!!!
I hope they grab a local contractor and do a ride along so we can see if it works. ideally someone with a regular E-350 to direct compare
@steinwaymodelb2 жыл бұрын
@@markcoopers1930 Check out Smedley Plumbing's KZbin channel for their documentation of their E-Transit in real life.
@nickhenderson14102 жыл бұрын
Currently watching this on my lunch here at KCAP where these are made. Cool to finally see one of these out in the wild, nonetheless on TFL! It's been super cool watching this plant transform to be able to make the electric version and gas versions side by side. Believe my when I tell you there are a LOT of constraints on an already complicated vehicle that has three lengths and three heights to deal with. Looking forward to your testing of this thing.
@ProctorsGamble2 жыл бұрын
Hello from Louisville Assembly
@nickhenderson14102 жыл бұрын
@@ProctorsGamble Hi!
@AWildBard2 жыл бұрын
Great job.
@flip0345 Жыл бұрын
Can you add more batteries
@WheresHerb2 жыл бұрын
If anyone has never been over the rockies I highly recommend it.
@ThatVeryArtGal Жыл бұрын
Great review and practical road test. I live in Colorado so it's good to know what the challenges and plusses are. Love that downhill gravity bonus! Something for folks to remember - there is a federal EV benefit of $7500, so if this vehicle is $9k over a gas version, it's a no-brainer. I just WISH it had more range or a larger battery option for more range. I want to go electric, but I feel like constant charging will get old real fast.
@michigandon2 жыл бұрын
Good ol' Electrojunk America!!!
@larrysmith67972 жыл бұрын
How much of your remaining lifespan are you willing to waste at a chargers getting constipated on $8 Starbucks coffee and $6 three ounce packets of beef jerky?
@fgxw82 жыл бұрын
If you bought that vehicle for around-town deliveries, it's a pretty good choice. In town, driving stresses a power train, especially when idling in the summer heat, leading to maintenance issues. Of course, the range wouldn't be an issue. However, you would be ill-advised to buy this vehicle to run the Gauntlet and Vale's Pass daily with a full load. I'm sure more well-suited EVs are on the way.
@racingfortheson2 жыл бұрын
Please max the payload and range test it 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@Tigermoto2 жыл бұрын
This! I mean if it's not full it's not a working van. Contractors will have it full of shelves, tools, hauling stuff for a job. An empty van is a worthless test.
@derekk69062 жыл бұрын
I am sure their reviews of the EVs have to be positive, otherwise the manufacturers will stop supplying vehicles for them to review. That would be a disaster for the KZbin channel.
@foellerd2 жыл бұрын
They won’t. They’re protecting these vans for some reason. Maybe a paid review. Glossed over the literal Nissan leaf sized battery it has.
@racingfortheson2 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree with people saying they won’t give it a honest review
@1225KPH2 жыл бұрын
Testing an empty work van is BS.
@westeed12 жыл бұрын
Andre, are you going to take on tumbleweed ranch with the buhanka?
@Augiebracerofam2 жыл бұрын
Return to Prudhoe Bay! Could be more comfortable than a canvas tent on a pickem up. Thank you for sharing and have a great day!
@tommynickels4570 Жыл бұрын
This vehicle is NOT worth the price Ford is asking. Battery range is ridiculously low. Cold weather and full payloads could reduce range by 50%. Factor in fast charging restrictions and this vehicle is a headache. Avoid
@BrandanM942 жыл бұрын
Andre stop into dunkin on Huron I need a coffee lol the only TFL member I know of that lives in Thornton area so close to me. Love the content. Keep it up guys!
@IcRedeye2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see you drive it empty to the top of the Ike gauntlet, then load something like a side by side in it to achieve max payload. Then see how much energy you could put back into it going down the mountain.
@larrysmith67972 жыл бұрын
This is stupider than driving downhill both ways.
@benb6691 Жыл бұрын
Look at that charging location. I love it.
@bret97412 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely buy one if it was AWD and had a range of 250 miles in a 1-ton high cab extended length. Sadly that configuration gives us 90 mile range. I have a 1-Ton 2020 AWD, 3.5 Ecoboost loaded. I build and remodel high end homes in North Ohio. 80% of the time I can get buy with 100 miles of range a day. 10% I can get by on 100-135 miles. The rest of the time I need up to 400 miles a day. Now, in the winter, I start the van 15 min before I start work to warm up the cab and start warming the battery tools that will not work if too cold. If ford offered a hybrid diesel transit… I’d be all in.
@J.Young8082 жыл бұрын
I’d love a Diesel hybrid
@Cavemol58232 жыл бұрын
This would be great college , airport , part mover fan , mail van as well
@cmcb72302 жыл бұрын
Every time you guys go to a charging station you have an issue. It’s ridiculous, they need to have actual people available at those stations. How on earth do the people pushing EV’s ever expect them to catch on if you can’t charge them?
@georgepelton56452 жыл бұрын
Well said. Ford and the other automakers that plan to sell EVs need to attend to charging station reliability and availability ASAP.
@jamessue83582 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 bolt ev, been trying to complain about the charging ever since. (Falling on deaf ears)..🤔..🤣🤣..🙂
@gamebredduramax712 жыл бұрын
And Governor’s like Gavin Newsom tells the citizens your not aloud to charge your electric cars on certain days of the week, and set your thermostat in your house at 78 degrees. EV’s is a scam to give government more power over the people hidden under the guise of Environmentally friendly. Even though nothing about it is environmentally friendly.
@KalleSWBeck2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s a them problem? Lol charging isn’t that hard
@derekk69062 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a hassle and risk on road trips.
@doublebackagain43112 жыл бұрын
You can add charge anxiety to range anxiety -
@Stormiejewelry2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@MrMr123 Жыл бұрын
Seeing this dude having anxiety attacks about running out of power reminds of the time I got a Nissan leaf and hated it 😂😂😂
@benilk57162 жыл бұрын
Thank you Andre for reviewing vans!
@pernell43512 жыл бұрын
know where you are at. Every time we go to Colorado on vacation that’s area my Cousin live in. They in New Castle. we stay in Frisco Colorado use that as a midway point.
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
The components in the front do not include the inverter (@13:27); they are the same as the components under the front hood of a RWD Mach-E - the charger, etc. The inverter is mounted on top of the motor in the back.
@Tin00E2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. I am hoping they bring a plug-in hybrid power train to this model. That way I could have the efficiency of electric around town and then for my longer trips I have the range and towing capability of petrol. Plus if a few years from now if my battery weakens, I always have the petrol option.
@Animalwon2 жыл бұрын
They should have added that Transmission dial to the Electric F-150 (Lightning)! I would order it instead of the collapsing stick shift.
@sharonbraselton4302 Жыл бұрын
buy eltríc lightñg
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
That "middle" length is the longer of the two wheelbases (148"), but without the longest body extension in the back.
@heldert62312 жыл бұрын
After driving an Econoline for over 15 years and serving me well (huge gas expenses though) I'm now driving a Transit w ecoboost and Very Happy with it! I want the E-transit next but I'm concerned about paying 60K (almost 2x what i paid for current) and waiting months for a truck that offers less... Please convince otherwise...
@skyemalcolm2 жыл бұрын
Up front cost is less but you have to include the extra you spend in fuel and maintenance every year on the ecoboost transit. Also if you’re a commercial ford customer they can probably help you with the analysis.
@ccroson79352 жыл бұрын
When they get the 500 miles of range I might consider buying one for my company
@sharonbraselton4302 Жыл бұрын
405 mioe teksa slóíd syàte bayedd 500 miless
@ccroson7935 Жыл бұрын
@@sharonbraselton4302 what are you talking about?
@ScrapKing732 жыл бұрын
Does the inverter powering the outlets in the rear of the truck draw directly from the high-voltage battery, or does it go through the 12v battery?
@laloajuria46782 жыл бұрын
still refers to dcfc as lvl 3. using work utility not as intended. thanks for the ongoing ev promotion tfl!
@ranig28482 жыл бұрын
Electrify America should add the tag name “guaranteed to fail”. This is not a charging station issue, it’s and Electrify America issue. It’s as if VW (who owns it) is doing whatever it can to slow down the transition and make people think chargers are unreliable. I’ve been using the Tesla SuperCharger network for years and never encountered a single broken charger (with the exception of one that was vandalized). When complaining about charging station please clarify it’s not a charging issue, it’s an electrify America issue.
@carl87902 жыл бұрын
Andre keeps saying it's a grid issue too. The grid has nothing to do with EA's lousy charging infrastructure.
@ranig28482 жыл бұрын
@@carl8790 Agree. It's the grid issue as much as a Windows laptop crashing is a grid issue... many other networks work great on the same grid.
@CSLFiero8 ай бұрын
Problem with such a low range, even in city driving, is the service life of the battery. Full charge and discharge cycles take their toll
@23billd2 жыл бұрын
So 2.4 miles per Kw-hr is not bad. Assume one Kw-hr costs about $0.18 and assume gas costs $5 per gallon. That means you'll get an equivalent of 66 mpg when compared to a gas vehicle.
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
They didn't put an entirely different chassis under it (as suggested @12:58); the E-Transit has the same structure and front suspension as the regular Transit, with a different powertrain and rear (only) suspension.
@morrigansraven612 жыл бұрын
Once you add in charging times imagine how long an employee would be sitting idle during an average day. Time is Money, even if it is a private vehicle on a vacation trip.
@mikebandw1862 жыл бұрын
What about regen braking? What if they never leave a 50 mile radius and recharge overnight? Your concerns are valid, but likely overthought for most city workers.
@nujjigram2 жыл бұрын
Those employees have fixed idle time. As a delivery van this works well
@joedoesfun93362 жыл бұрын
You most likely would just steer the lazy thieves into slacking while charging instead of stealing from their company while they're supposed to be working so it would all work out. Also, most service workers don't put 100+ miles on their trucks during one day so these can charge at the shop overnight and be ready to go in the morning.
@stephenj49372 жыл бұрын
These vans are for local delivery/work (cabinet installers, florists, internet/cable techs, etc.) where people average 60-80 miles of driving each day, not road trips. They will not need to be charged except at night.
@larrysmith67972 жыл бұрын
@@joedoesfun9336 Most likely, you aren't too bright.
@juliogonzo27182 жыл бұрын
The screen on the charger does not say if the 13.158 is kw/h but if it is then that only got 25 miles of range for $5.59 which is not very competitive against gas
@olebloom16412 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this series.
@roypase84882 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much TFL...Been looking at any Transit period!!!
@glennkverneland833 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Andre! What was the cost difference compared with a gas (ecoboost 3.5) model?
@riverakers2 жыл бұрын
With all that roof area. Why not cover it in solar panels for helping recharge the batteries when not in use?
@cyberoptic5757 Жыл бұрын
Driving over a mountain range is not a use case I'm considering. Near Portland Maine, we might go from sea level to 500' and back. Mostly under 300'
@ctsingletrack Жыл бұрын
They're almost there. I would love to try electric, but I drive my van 120 miles per day for some of my jobs. I'm also using my van to carry a payload, as will basically everyone who is buying a cargo van. I really wish the Transit had range comparable to the F150.
@matthewpixley49412 жыл бұрын
Funny no one ever mentions strip mining and other mining to acquire nickel, cobalt, and other minerals for these batteries. The green movement is just a shell game!
@Pijo_10 ай бұрын
@TFLtruck did you forget to close the partition door before you left or was the door latch not working well? 😂😂😂. How was the noise level during the ride?…was the partition louder than most with rattle or anything like that?
@mattheww14292 жыл бұрын
My biggest complaint is why the heck didn't Ford install a generator on this to give you extra range if necessary or to help people with range anxiety. I test drove one here in austin. We drove 60 miles on a straight road with 6 people and we only had 5 miles left when we got back. These transits are only rated 118 miles completely empty. This is why you don't see anyone using these carrying any kind of weight. Even if you had a 300 mile range you'd be lucky to get 120 miles out of it carrying anything.
@MrPhotodoc2 жыл бұрын
People who complain about the charging issue and EV's will never catch on need to know that gas stations were not a thing when automobiles first appeared. But you could actually buy fuel at your local drug store.
@brandonterry46382 жыл бұрын
Man,any TFL video puts me to sleep..I have seriously been waiting on those monotone voices and lack of action...just Dulwich tones and droning..thanks guys,I'm not even joking the best sleep meds
@SupDown4u2 ай бұрын
But maybe you said it i missed it but how much was the cost in dollars for electricity compared to gas to take the trip?
@raynic11732 жыл бұрын
I hate those front side window shapes. The curved lower portion is not conducive to placing your arm up on the door with the window open when the weather is nice.
@peterwilkinson1975 Жыл бұрын
Rear wheel drive would suck in the winter in Colorado (grand lake here)
@willyd-adv2 жыл бұрын
I really want the new E Transit. I have a Nissan Env200 I converted into a camper which only has a 60mile range but the only EV van available here. But I feel so lucky to live in New Zealand where we have 2 fast chargers every 45 miles on all roads across the country and the small city I live in has 62 Type2 free chargers. Bar that already being awesome all chargers (actually almost all power in NZ) is from renewable sources. I have never once had a charging issue or even had to wait for a charger and I now have 74,000miles on it
@sharonbraselton4302 Жыл бұрын
byy ford trañsit
@s.porter8646 Жыл бұрын
I have an AZURE, Fords, first attempt at the E-Van, it's a great van, 80 miles range, having gone through several EV's Ford can dominate if they get options for lager packs, although average is 80 miles commute, others that want this want over 200 mile range.
@darkbeekeeper2 жыл бұрын
Great work on this, I drive a service van everyday and no way would this work for me with 24hr service no way could i mess around with charging and you were empty not loaded down with tools my e350 is about 400 under gross
@RADAdv3462 жыл бұрын
Loaded with a tools 1t and see if it can make it across Denver
@Ecostainable6 ай бұрын
It barely drops in efficiency. Can easily get 90 miles a day on the coldest day, heater on all day, fully loaded, driving all around town. 120+ miles not fully loaded and still abusing the A/C and/or heating system also while using power tools with inverter. These vans are way better than people realize but of course there will be people who will want electric to fail for some reason.
@vikingbase2 жыл бұрын
My Chrysler Pacifica PHEV if charging and you open the hood the charging stops... I live in Vegas and wanted extra fans blowing in engine compartment but had to blow through the grill.
@chrishansel93242 жыл бұрын
I love how it still has a fuel gage
@sharonbraselton4302 Жыл бұрын
wríñg
@jbg27076 ай бұрын
I was thinking of purchasing this van and installing a generator on the 5 wheel compartment and putting wheel out in rear door and that way at jobsites I can charge easier
@29madmangaud292 жыл бұрын
Seems to me that all/any of those electric only vehicles aren't yet up to steam! I'm really glad, and it's as I've figured. Thanks so much for your testing Andre, and all of you folks at TFL...... yeap> the road trip to deadhorse , Alaska also!
@HammVan Жыл бұрын
i heard on the tesla tires need to be changed every year due to battery size, is that the case on the electric cargo van?
@Qrail2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I learned a lot. I think if you used the L button, you could get max regen. (That’s how it works on my Fusion Energi). As a former van fleet owner, (8 Dodge B350 vans). I could see one of these on my Christmas wish list.
@MrIpjrobson2 жыл бұрын
I hope that as commercial EVs become more popular we will see it drive down costs of residential Cars. Perhaps it will expand and improve the charging network in Ontario canada
@ericreid81112 жыл бұрын
Bruh Andre constantly 20Mph over the speed limit 🤣😂🤣 10:05
@timgurr18762 жыл бұрын
Good video. What is the towing capacity? Will be interesting to see how range and efficiency is impacted by payload and towing. If you plan to do a constant speed range test, please consider a loop style test (end up where you started). Could you consider a 0 to 100% charging cycle then show the charging curve? Also, maybe you could simulate an all day delivery cycle with 20 to 30 delivery points. Would also be interesting to understanding charging on a typical 240V/40 amp circuit. Thanks again.
@jouleSansLoi Жыл бұрын
I see you have to take up 3 parking spots at the Walmart because the charging slot is at the front and the charging cable isn't long enough in that station.
@FangOfTruth2 жыл бұрын
You were experiencing Exiety(EV anxiety) at the problematic charging station.
@craigkoskela12532 жыл бұрын
A pricey novelty for people who never plan to camp more than 50 miles from home, because you still have to get back home.
@48VAC2 жыл бұрын
I look at that front charger port and think.....I hope I don't have to drive during icy rain. Never get it open to charge. I'll stick with my gasser until they can get the range/refill rates of gas.
@jcnredpizzawindow2219 Жыл бұрын
I got ave a question I imagine the E-transit is geared for city driving my question is if it possible to change the rear end gearing to get better highway range?
@bobyad48792 жыл бұрын
Please tell us how much was spent on both charging stations?
@MrMr123 Жыл бұрын
Running a business is stressful Freaking out about range just adds to the stress 😂
@georgepelton56452 жыл бұрын
Actually the grid is as reliable as gas stations, it is only the EV chargers that have reliability issues. Tesla uses the same utility grid, and has about 99.9% uptime for their superchargers.
@foellerd2 жыл бұрын
Actually the result is the same no matter how you word it, unreliability. Call it what you want, you end up with the same problem, can’t charge the vehicle, aka, unreliable.
@georgepelton56452 жыл бұрын
@@foellerd True for CCS cars, but it is not just a choice of words. The words “grid” vs. “charger” describe when in the supply chain the reliability problem exists. CCS unreliability is not the fault of the electric utilities. The same utilities supply Tesla superchargers, and I never have had an issue charging my Teslas over hundreds of road trips, and other Tesla owners report the same.