Three Generations of Toyota Tundra Drag Race & MPG Surprise: That WAS NOT Supposed to Happen!

[@WREKLOC]

1st gen Tundra is a hidden gem for off roading or overlanding. Its smaller like a tacoma but with a v8 to be able to carry all the extra weight comfortably.

[@jaylonsorrells5139]

Shhh I’m still trying to buy one 😂😂😂

[@andrewinaustintx]

I'm still truckin with an 05 Tundra. It carries my 950 lb camper and does so with 87 Octane gasoline.

[@FreeTimeFeats]

Entirely on train with you. Realized that when I saw trucks continue to get bigger

[@27Zangle]

My father had one. He drove it hard for 10 years before he passed away. He had well north of 200k miles and never changed the timing belt. A friend of mine had one with nearly 300k miles in fantastic condition until a moose stepped out in front of him. They're great trucks for sure and I've been thinking about buying one for the last few years as a second vehicle.

[@koomo801]

With doors being so much thicker for safety now, and the trend to go with huge middle consoles, I find being in a new Tundra I have no more front seat room than in my 2000 Tundra. A little more leg room maybe, and that's it.

[@BigTexasIron]

I’ve got the 4.7 V8 in my 07 Sequoia (241K miles) and it isn’t the fastest off the line but once I’m moving, the power curve is very smooth and she gets up and moves.

[@mftatvop]

I have 2008 sequoia 5.7 platinum 295,000 miles. Press the tow haul mode and it is really powerful

[@sully3724]

​@@mftatvopIs it kinda like if the car had sport mode right?

[@mftatvop]

@@sully3724 already has sport mode

[@christopherclark4774]

I too own 1st gen sequoia and 5.7 tundra, honestly, the 1st gen sequoia has better throttle response, less power but from dead stop sequoia is noticeably better with less "lag". Dont know if its the same though in 2007 as mine is a 2001 and the throttle body system was different and had a 1/2 mechanical wire and 1/2 electronic motor design.

[@kdubsist]

​@@sully3724 Kinda sorta, it just delays the shift points to higher rpm and makes the throttle more sensitive. It isn't functionally doing anything different in terms of horsepower or engine performance.

[@freedomisntfree_44]

The 5.7 is a million mile engine as well

[@Peaceman2884]

4.7 actually

[@mikecarmean1676]

Both

[@freedomisntfree_44]

@@Peaceman2884 a couple 5.7s have hit a million “aCtUaLlY”

[@highplainsdrifter9849]

​@@Peaceman2884Look up Blaine Johnsons million mile 5.7 Tundra.

[@flight2k5]

As is the 4.6

[@jwltiger3357]

Turbo engines getting better gas mileage is all dependent on how you drive. If you never roll into boost and actually use the turbo and its power, then yes, the engines more efficient. But if you are driving in boost all the time, the engines still use a ton of fuel

[@patmanz28]

However with the tiny little turbos they almost always spool up and use more fuel. I used to have one of these little downsized turbo engines it was impossible to get good gas mileage even with the cruise control set at 65 I got terrible gas mileage. Might be different with a bigger engine in a truck. I know my brother-in-law gets 16 with his 2.7 EcoBoost

[@ALMX5DP]

@@patmanz28either something is wrong or your brothers driving habits are the reason for that figure. Plenty of people get at or near EPA ratings with their turbocharged engines, though yes it is more tempting to dip into the throttle deeper which causes the mileage to take a dive.

[@jwltiger3357]

@@patmanz28 it may have to do with where you live. For instance, in the Midwest where I am, it’s all flat so it’s much easier to adjust fuel efficiency with driving habits. If someone lives out in the mountains though, they’ll struggle to get good gas mileage as the turbos will be spoiling often going up hills

[@patmanz28]

@@ALMX5DP it's actually more physics and brake specific fuel consumption. Turbocharged cars under any form of boost use more fuel than an equivalent power normally aspirated engine. If you get on some of the mile per gallon forums people with the small turbocharged cars routinely get worse than their NA counterparts..

[@ALMX5DP]

@@patmanz28 again, for that kind of figure something is either wrong or it's driving behaviors that are the cause. Looking at Fuelly which has thousands of fill ups and that shows a different picture. And I'd love to see a BSFC map of two fairly equivalent engines (in terms of output). I'd wager the turbocharged mill has larger efficiency zones.

[@donE37100]

5.7 Tundra did an extra full throttle run. Not much, but will effect overall fuel mileage

[@adambartlett2780]

The 1st gen had probably 60lbs of sand in the back too

[@johncs154]

But the newest gen only did one run that’s not good lol

[@tbizzy3606]

I find if I can keep my foot out of it, I can avg 15ish in my 5 7, but there's not much fun in that, so I'll take the solid 13.

[@philliposborne5403]

When my 2018 was stock I could get 17-18 on the highway and 16-17 around town. Now it’s lifted with some armor and I consistently get 15, 16 on a good day. We’ll see how tires affect it.

[@GatesRapes]

2016 with Magnaflow cat back ,, 18mpg / 87 octane ,,,, 21+ / 93

[@joebideb]

Just bought 2013 Rock Warrior. 32k miles on it! I love it❤❤❤

[@J.W.W.]

I wish I could buy my 2006 Tundra Double Cab TRD Off Road again brand new today. Perfect size, plenty of power, decent gas mileage, zero reliability issues.

[@macgyver03ga]

My grandfather’s 06 Tundra he bought brand new still has less than 20k miles on it. He’s in his late 80’s and told me a few years ago that the Tundra is the last vehicle he’ll ever drive. Drives it once a week to keep it running. He’s currently daily driving a ‘14 Altima and he says when it dies he’ll start driving the Tundra. He used to drive Buicks but got tired of how unreliable they were so he bought that Altima about 10 years ago 😂🤣😂.

[@michaelhensley4623]

My 2000 first gen 4.7 is just over 940k miles no rebuilds

[@jameskocks4734]

stock transmission?

[@ALLw3rk]

Serious? How about timing belts and transmission flushes? I’m sitting at 250k and want to push it to at least 500k

[@nyashnader1]

I kind of picked up my dads 04 tundra with 350k miles. Im doing maintenance and tune up and am realizing how beautifully this truck was designed. Original engine and trans, changed fluids and cleaned throttle body. The engine is ******* amazing excuse my language

[@bobsmitth497]

Damn👍🍺🍺🍺🍺😁

[@Ojb_1959]

My 03 SR5 just turned 100k in 2024. Just broke in and purrs like a kitten. My hopes are to never see a car note.🏁

[@davidmueller2780]

New gen has still not given me that i want one feeling! The 5.7 tundra is the one i would want in my driveway !

[@minimumeffortenthusiast8242]

5.7 will wipe the floor with the new Tundra on longevity. As a Land Rover technician, I've learned the more technology is packed into a vehicle, the more problems down the line you'll have. That goes double for any engine with a coolant hose spaghetti mess.

[@quellcristfalconer9457]

1st Gen Tundra is still the best truck on the road. I have an 02 Tundra AC 4WD; throw on headers, exhaust, and some 12 hole fuel injectors and it make it feel extremely peppy off the line. I absolutely love this truck, only 161k miles on this bad boy

[@TundraShiz]

100%

[@thyslop1737]

161k miles? Not even broken in yet.

[@BrodieBikes69]

I have one with a modded intake and straight piped and it’s loud sounds like an off-road race truck and has so much power

[@rickjames9256]

I love my 06 with a 4.7L. Beast of an engine. Still running silk smooth even with 375K with original drivetrain.

[@82Ismael]

Same mine has 305k still running smooth and no leaks

[@stefanovichmichael9686]

You've got only about another 700k or so to go.

[@dimmacommunication]

What is that engine code ?

[@johndeboyace7943]

Tundra Access cab 4wd TRD off rd 2006 225,000 miles, 17-18 avg.MPG,bought new, don’t like the models after 1st gen.

[@grahamhancock4904]

The measure of a truck has absolutely zero to do with the results of a drag race. One word.......longevity

[@codylang1923]

To be fair the 1st gen tundra only raced once so it used less fuel

[@andrewinaustintx]

Since you mention it - the 3rd Gen Tundra raced only once as well. With that factored, the 2nd Gen and 3rd Gen MPG numbers nearly tied.

[@antoniodavis8266]

It made no sense to do a gas mileage after a race. If you make more horsepower than the other truck, you spent more gas to make more horsepower than the others . And then its a big Weight difference also.

[@mypronouniswtf5559]

They did the mpg run with a new tank of gas and they never raced on that tank..They raced after the gas mileage test was done.

[@JIPlatium]

​@@andrewinaustintxyou can literally watch Nathan zoom down to go pick the one guy up... So maybe not racing, but it went down and back again quickly.

[@cartopia6161]

If someone presented me the option to take one of these trucks, I wouldn’t hesitate to take the first gen Tundra. That truck ticks all the boxes on size, dependability, utility, lake of safety nannies. It just flat out is a great truck. This is coming from a second gen Tundra owner.

[@SkinnySkinch]

Agreed. It'll just last forever in the hands of anyone somewhat mechanically inclined.

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

As a owner of a 2003 4.7L V8 Tundra 4x4 and now a 2021 Tundra TRD Pro double cab 5.7L V8 owner, I would argue with you that the 2.5 gen is far superior to the original. The biggest problem is the 1st gen is absolutely gutless. It can't tow worth a crap, and throw any kind of weight in the back and it can't get out of 4th gear. My 2021 smokes it in absolutely every way. MPG city is around 15 and highway is around 18. I'd never trade that 5.7 for a 4.7 at this point. Also, the size of the 2.5 is so much nicer. The interior is so roomy and is just a better highway cruiser than my 2003 was hands down.

[@dallasmorrison8967]

As much as I agree that the first gen is a great truck that would work great for me 90% of the time.i got a 2nd gen to have a towing capacity large enough to tow my camper.and enough room in the rear to fit 3 car seats lol

[@morgandrives]

Everyone knows the 5.7 will still be pulling strong when those turbos are dead and the 4.7 croaks. Could be the best engine ever made.

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

@@morgandrives100% agreed. On top of that the best six speed transmission out there too. The idea you need 10 gears is ridiculous.

[@nathanmcdonald610]

That little 4.7L did a lot better in the drag race than I expected it to. 245hp vs 380hp and a full liter of displacement difference between it and the 2nd gen Tundra. I know the first gen is like over 700lbs lighter, but still, impressive showing for what it was.

[@kylewallace4318]

I have a full time 4WD 4Runner with the 4.7 and honestly, it scoots off the line lol

[@mrjjthor]

I've owned both the first and second gen Tundras with the V8s. Both were crew cab 4wd and the second gen is much faster. Like Andre said, he got a great launch.

[@nathanmcdonald610]

@@mrjjthor Yeah but even with the great launch he got, the 5.7L wasn't pulling as hard on the 4.7L I was expecting it to once things were well underway.

[@joshuaearnheart2756]

@@kylewallace4318the 4Runners have the 5 speed trans and a 3.73 rear gear. My brothers 4.7 tundra he had wouldn’t run anywhere close to my 4Runners

[@brianbarnes1970]

271 hp. Variable valve timing in the 05/06. Complex cams

[@buyallmeans425]

Ford guy here... but if a first generation tundra came my way, I would jump on it. Perfect size and great longevity.

[@seanmcdevitt1052]

Agreed this was a great sized half ton. That truck with a 2.7 ecoboost would be sick

[@Duane14]

2007-2013 tundras with the 5.7 are truck perfection!

[@rjcason98]

2015 with 8 ft bed for me. Longest one they made

[@joebideb]

Just bought a 2013 Rock Warrior TRD. 32k original miles, 1 owner miles! ❤ love it❤

[@Patriot-up2td]

(2012 w/5.7) Agreed!

[@ALLw3rk]

@@joebideb congrats, that sounds like perfection.

[@vlsr71]

UZ vs UR

[@rodneyhirsch2340]

Turbos are great for costing lots of money to fix. And not lasting near as long as normally aspirated engines.

[@JollyGiant19]

I don’t know, all those Toyota turbo diesels they got seem to just go and go and go

[@lolbuster01]

​@@JollyGiant19that's a diesel though. Most people buy gas engines.

[@bradymac7516]

apples and oranges !@@JollyGiant19

[@scott8238]

@@JollyGiant19 thats not a good comparison

[@lightsfansofthewest481]

2JZ-GTE is a reliable engine.

[@matthewtrudeau1197]

I've owned a first and 3rd gen tundra . 1st gen is hands down my favorite truck of all time .

[@reggiebarboza6711]

Why gotta make the dialogue so cringey though?

[@thatguyjd281]

They'd always been my thing with fast lane. Super cheesy

[@joshbrown7783]

That's TFL for ya bucko

[@ivanhernandez9495]

😂😂😂

[@fooloco]

I have the grandpa truck(1st gen) but it's a 2004 so I only have the 4 speed transmission and less power without the added VVTI, however, it has 267k miles and all I've ever had to do outside of normal maintenance was change a window regulator that went bad. I love that it has big windows and a hood you can actually see over.

[@kyrosmike]

I paid 21k for back in 2003 for my Tundra SR5 TRD brand new, thats 35k in today's dollars. 70k for a Tundra get bent

[@TexasVexes]

Yeah Toyota of old has died. The last great Toyota is a 24 4runner with the legend 1gre-fe. Tundra died in 2022 and Tacoma in 2024

[@corysather6640]

I owned a 2005 tundra with the 4.7 v8, fantastic truck dependable, reliable. Currently own a 2008 tundra 5.7 only mods I've done is a K&N air filter and a catback exhaust. I absolutely love driving this truck puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. The tow haul is an added bonus.

[@bennysax1]

Finally the video I’ve been wanting to see!! Amazing work guys!

[@Adam-oy7lj]

1st Gen is still the best Tundra. I'm not giving up my '03 ever. 300k+ and still going strong.

[@andyamysarizonaadventures5450]

The largest factor for me to keep the 4.7 or 5.7 is how many $1000s less repair and maintenance cost at several hundred thousand miles!

[@The_Hi_Life]

I remember in the early 2000s I had a V8 powered Dakota. I thought it was fast for the day. When the 1st gen tundras came out with the new 4.7 V8, I thought ain’t no way it’s going to run with my mid size truck with a V8. Boy was I wrong! Those things would smoke me! 😂

[@josephcullen2512]

Y'all could do an eco run! A low key hypermiling challenge... To see which truck can get the best mileage if driven gently or at least realistically gently

[@dakotacoburn]

2nd this!!

[@comethmordor]

Love my ‘21! 🙂 Thanks for another great video, guys.

[@JoeWitAFro]

That extra 1/4 mile run for the 5.7l definitely factored into the MPG. Nice! I just decided to buy a 07 5.7l with 125k as a dedicated tow vehicle instead of a new Tacoma and it definitely has the quality to boot over the new trucks. I just can't see the new one being as reliable over time. Being a toyota owner the past 20 years with a multitude of vehicles, simpler setups and less electronics always last the longest and cost less to maintain. I'd love to see an Ike gauntlet between these three trucks with 7-8k loaded on them all.

[@GeorgeJFW]

I bought a 2018 tundra about 6 months ago, zero engine stop start, no direct injection valve carbon issues, no MSD, 4.33 rear end and a massive snarling V8 they are fantastic trucks. I would have liked to seen this ran with tow haul on makes a big difference on these trucks.

[@spareparts7630]

Wouldn't have made much difference. It is the elevation that is killing the N/A trucks in this case. I have a 21.

[@GeorgeJFW]

@@spareparts7630 possibly I live in a pretty high elevation, I think when you have tow haul on it actually uses first gear.

[@OleSevers]

The 08 tundra is one of the greatest trucks ever made

[@RK-nr8qf]

I can attest to that. Mine has been great the past 15yrs.

[@T_81535]

Pushing 300k with mine pulling a nearly 5000lb load almost every day after hitting 80,000 miles. Gotta a 22 sr non hybrid now for when the 08 goes. Whenever that may be🤷

[@theUltimateLord]

I still think the 1st gen is still the best overall truck

[@27Zangle]

I really like the 1st gen but in all honesty, the 2nd gen is a great truck and they're not equiped with a timing belt with a huge plus for some people. I've seen the prices of 1st gens start to creep back up this last few months and the prices between a 1st and 2nd gen truck at times is only a few thousand bucks at most.

[@MsQ275]

how is it a trick if you basically cannot tow with it?? 6k lbs of tow is useless....and this is coming from a lady.

[@normcheers1726]

@@MsQ275 It's completely useful up to 6k lbs. A 27 foot center console boat averages around 4200lbs dry, most single axle utility trailers can carry 3500lbs. I see way more empty full size trucks towing absolutely nothing all day then anything else.

[@0HOON0]

Newer half ton trucks are just too big for offroading in Colorado. Constant pinstriping, hard to pass and difficult to manauver. This goes double for the Raptors.

[@jqentertainment6966]

The 1st gen is great but the frames are garbage and prone to extreme rust. It's very sad because other than that it's super reliable

[@tubularfool]

Something we need to takeaway here for the MPG. The 5.7 did another drag race and the twin turbo did another run as well when Andre needed picked up for the brake test. I know that won’t be a huge difference but it matters and changes it.

[@shanebrown2963]

Ive had my 2008 tundra with the 5.7lt since I bought it new. It’s got 253,000 miles and still going. Runs like just like it did when drove it off the lot. No major problems what so ever. Just normal maintenance . I would take a second gen over any of the 3 any day. If I were to buy a new Tundra it would be a 2021. Only down side is the shitty fuel mileage. The first gen cabs are too small. The new Tundra is a shitbox as far as I’m concerned and is gonna have a ton of isssues down the road.

[@gatormeal]

I found a 2021 Toyota Tundra CrewMax 1794 Edition to replace my 2012 Toyota Tundra CrewMax SR5 back in March 2023 with only 872 miles. About 18 months old at the time, garage kept, original owner, showroom condition. It took me about 5 minutes to scoop it up !!! I didn't like the looks of the new 2022 redesign nor was I crazy about the twin turbo V6. Fuel mileage for my 2021 is about the same as was with my 2012, about 18 mpg which doesn't seem to different than what is being generally reported by the owners of the 3rd generation owners.

[@jacoe33333]

😂. I bought a 2010. Its defenetely more of a truck. I love my 2010 limited Crewmax. The new truck is smaller. Nope.

[@zero_cool817]

Just bought a 2003 Tundra from my dad last week. 162,000 miles runs smooth. Just drove it from California to Texas with zero issues. I am doing routine maintenance now and I want to see how many miles I can get out of it.

[@gaffle-411]

0:10 … yes, we will enjoy the good sound, low interest rates / no car payments, great resale value, and even better, long-term RELIABILITY! 😅

[@EveryDayTrucker]

I just traded my 2021 Tacoma 2x4 in for a 2024 Tundra 4x4 TRD SPORT and I was cautiously optimistic but now I’m slammed enthusiastic! I will enjoy this truck for the rest of my life. Great video guys, I truly enjoyed it! Thank you!

[@2wheeled76]

Just picked up a first gen Tundra for many reasons they covered. 6’4” bed, low fuel costs(87 octane + decent economy). Easy to maneuver and fit into tight spots for parking or off road, and relatively low cost and low-trouble of ownership. BUT, you need to maintain your 90k timing belt interval and lower ball joints!

[@charged]

No one with a FGT considers them easy to maneuver into parking spots. They have the turning radius of a battleship.

[@2wheeled76]

@@charged unless you’ve come from something like an F250. My FGT feels like a Miata in comparison to that thing

[@MyFutt]

@@chargedAccess Cabs turn great.

[@FreedomLovinLady]

The turning radius is actually comparable to the larger gen 2 Tundra, so I see what you are saying, it's not super tight. However, I never have any trouble getting my 2003 into any reasonably sized parking spot, just like driving a large sedan, but with better visibility. I can even back it in easily, even though I have not added a backup camera 😲😂

[@David-lu4th]

@@charged Yeah the turning radius sucks butt lmao, in especially small parking lots I find myself struggling to turn out/in even though it's a small body compared to bigger trucks. But that's probably one of my only complaints about the FGT (2000 here), it's treated me well, and it purrs real nice with some dual borla cat back exhuast when I hit the pedal. People love to try and race me, I wont be beating anyone in any races but it sure as hell sounds nice ahaha

[@uriespi]

I got a 2006 Toyota 4runner 4wd 4.7L v8, it’s an absolute beast. Only having 99k miles it hasn’t even been broken into. Some of those engines have gone over 1m miles. Ima keep it forever. Probably will outrun me lol.

[@kevinstenger4334]

I’d like to see what the total cost of ownership is when the hybrid is ten years old, my guess is that it will be double of what the other two are. Odds are that a lot of hybrids will likely hit the scrap yard when the second battery replacement hits.

[@jimthumerzs2301]

Toyota's old-school Nickel-metal hydride batteries last a long time. What worries me is those turbos. . .

[@stevieray1828]

That type of battery isn't nearly as expensive as lithium. Also easy to replace then under the seat

[@2021TundraV8]

I loved that 4.7 V8. . Got 22 mpg from it!

[@rogermeyer860]

I'm loving my new 2024 Tundra non-hybrid...coming from a 2004 F-150. It's smooth, quiet, handles great and more power. Lots of bells and whistles. I hope it holds up as well or better than my F-150 and trans last longer (it went out at 120K).

[@jacobhinkston6804]

I went from a 2020 tundra to a 23 F150 after my engine threw a rod. Toyota offered to buy it back since the rebuild would have taken 3 months due to short block assemblies being on back order. Hopefully you’ll better luck than I did!

[@Dannyyzeee]

the first gen is definitely the best looking of them all

[@ah4800]

Looks like a 98 f150

[@Rob_Basich]

Lies. 14-21.

[@wesfields9322]

Yes sir, especially when they gave it a crew cab option in 2004.

[@stefanovichmichael9686]

​@@ah4800But lasts 5 times longer

[@ah4800]

@@stefanovichmichael9686 I guess if the frame can make it that long. I had a 2004 yamaha edition tundra, traded to a 2011 f150. F150 is 10x the truck that was.

[@JP-re3qc]

Cost per mile? 17.83 on the new one vs 14. 25% more in dollars, who cares about mpg?? Premium fuel is ridiculous!!

[@cjm5161]

My 5.7 in tow haul mode shifts later and definitely adds a little pep to the truck !

[@justinkimball1399]

According to Toyota, you don't need premium fuel in the new tundra

[@frankjohnson6342]

Those twin turbos are NOT going to run on the 87 octane that all the early models run on, at least not very long.

[@mikebelverud]

1st Gen all the way. These aren't sports cars, guys! They're workhorses, for life. The nearly quarter-million miles on my '01 makes me smile every day. Always trade-offs, but not many! Fun video, guys! 👍

[@CACressida]

The 1st gen is the best gen. Best build quality, best reliability, best sized and its an honest 1/2 ton. Want to tow heavy? Go buy a diesel HD.

[@Pantelifts10]

Perfectly said and it's why I traded one of my Tundras with an HD.

[@David-lu4th]

Yeah and to be fair, most people who own a big diesel I see driving down the road aren't ever towing anything half the time. Some people just want a big truck, they never use the towing haha

[@nickknee3515]

This makes me wonder why Toyota didn't just take there last surviving 5.0 liter V8 from Lexus and tune it for truck use and get enough power and fuel economy and just make it an extra option for the new Tundra.

[@paulbrinston3336]

The 5.7 gains power with 91 octane! It has a knock sensor so you will get a few more degrees timing! If the 5.7 was at sea level, 91 octane and tow haul mode it would be a great race for a non hybrid 3.5 turbo tundra 👌

[@TundraShiz]

I'd like to see em race supercharged V8 tundras with supreme fuel vs the turd gen

[@petefreeman3981]

He is correct! Premium is recommended in 5.7.

[@rajn4410]

If the 5.7 was lighter,had 91 octane and at sea level, and was in the right lane it would of been a much better race. BUT ITS NOT!! SO SUCK IT UP PRINCESS!

[@user-ve9we5fg2c]

@@petefreeman3981 nope 91 not recommended

[@27Zangle]

I love the first generation so much as it was the last truck my father would own before he passed away. It was also his first non Ford or Chevy truck. He loved it so much and put over 200k miles on the original timing belt with hard driving and pulling a 20' camper around the U.S. in his final years. I got to drive it a few times while visiting right before he passed away and it was such a lovely truck to drive. I've been thinking about picking one up as a second vehicle and have even thought about the 2nd gen since the first gen prices are creeping back upwards as they become popular.

[@daniel45-70]

Your what who passed away

[@27Zangle]

@@daniel45-70 father. I will edit that, lol.

[@David-lu4th]

I can relate dude! I inherited my dads 2000 toyota tundra. Such a great truck, I've had to do some maintenance on it, timing belt rack and pinion, fuel filter, spark plugs etc etc and it just keeps running and running. I've abused it even in its old age and it still runs great. Sorry about your dad, my dad passed a few years ago

[@token4874]

Very good video and I liked it very much. Wish you also would have done a run with tow/haul mode.

[@GeorgeJFW]

I was looking for this comment!! I have a 5.7 tundra and tow haul on totally changes the feel of acceleration.

[@MsQ275]

110%.... tow capability is king

[@token4874]

I agree. I have a 5.7 Tundra as well and tow/haul mode just feels like it launches the Tundra like a bat out of hell !!

[@Pantelifts10]

Yeah my Tundras always seemed faster in tow haul mode

[@rsdaarud]

Thanks, TFL! Hard to beat Toyota fun on or off track.

[@Javelinjoe73]

Interesting test as I have had two of these trucks, a 2008 and now a 2023 non hybrid, the 08 did everything well except for fuel economy. The 2023 seems great but I’ve only got 7k miles on it, I’m averaging 20-21 mpg unless towing on 87 octane. My truck will never see premium fuel unless someone else is buying the fuel. 😊

[@JIPlatium]

My truck gets 20-21 mpg too.

[@RedWingsninetyone]

I've heard many others say they're getting around 20-21MPG, and maybe a little worse with the hybrid. Still more efficient than the outgoing model. Very similar to the current Tacoma too.

[@JIPlatium]

@@RedWingsninetyone mine is the hybrid model

[@RedWingsninetyone]

@@JIPlatium I got ya. Like I said, "maybe" a little worse.

[@mr.adventure6507]

Looking to buy a second gen tundra 5.7 or a Tacoma 12 to 18 yrs. What are yalls thoughts?

[@mikesanythingoutdoors9153]

I loved my 2006 tundra that truck never failed me an with over 400k miles she still was taking me on cross country jobs

[@PhilONealMusic]

In my opinion, the 2021 Tundra (2nd gen) is the best one out of all of them. Been a proud owner of one since 2021 and wouldn't change a thing (except slightly better mpg).

[@FreedomLovinLady]

That's a good truck, but technically, its a 3rd gen. 1st was 2000-2006, 2nd was 2007-2013 and 3rd was 2014-2021. You chose a great time to get one if you do not care for the V6 option, and yes, the V8 engine sounds amazing :)

[@JournalofaWarriorsJourney]

@@FreedomLovinLady I thought that too (had a 3rd Gen Taco) but just saw somewhere it was called Gen 2.5 😳🤣🤷🏻‍♀️ I have a ‘21 5.7.

[@leomedina5614]

Is your Tundra lifted or stock height? Also if you don’t mind me asking… how much mpg do you get? I’ve been thinking about buying a truck but I’m leaning more towards the Tundra since I’ve heard a lot of really great things about them

[@PhilONealMusic]

@@leomedina5614 -My Tundra is stock. I normally get about 17 hwy & 14 city. It’s also 2x4 as well. Hope this helps!

[@emperorrattiuslloydfathom]

4.7 2000 Tundra(limited edition), 280k miles. That thing is a freaking beast. I’ve outspend C5 Corvettes. C8 I can keep up with until 30mph and then it passes me, but gosh dang do I love that truck.. so fun to drift with too.

[@David-lu4th]

Did you mod it? I've got a 4.7 2000 but not limited edition, I got about 238k miles and there's no way I'm out-speeding any modern vehicle even with dual cat back borla exhaust and cold air intake

[@emperorrattiuslloydfathom]

@@David-lu4th not that I am aware. Should be stock. C5s were when they started doing low horsepower on cars, so it’s possible it was that. We’ve had it for 16 years now, and knew the person who owned it before. I genuinely don’t know if he changed the ball joints or any of the other “common problem” stuff. I just know that truck and how to drive it I think is what it chalks down to. It also is possible the C8 wasn’t trying until he realized I was keeping up with him, then sped off.

[@spareparts7630]

Oldest to newest is the order of reliability.

[@T-Dubb]

I had a 2008 CM 4x4 TRD Off-road. It was a great truck better known as “Big Thirsty” ! 😂

[@mr.mr.3301]

Interesting but most Toyota owners are more concerned about the vehicle 15 years from now and 200+ thousand miles

[@mypronouniswtf5559]

Dont buy a new Tundra then,they wont make it to 100,000 with that small engine and turbochargers! Already people are having issues,engines blowing up etc.. I am a Ex Toyota tech and still know people working in the same dealer..They hate the new Tundra already!

[@Jay-me7gw]

Most Toyota owners pretend to be more concerned about their vehicle 15 years from now but then they still trade them before that anyways.

[@mr.mr.3301]

@@Jay-me7gw most do. But I don’t. Finally let my 07 sequoia go in 21 with 240k miles to get my 21 tundra.

[@T_81535]

​​@@Jay-me7gwthat's because the resale and trade in value on a Toyota is extremely good, even with high miles, unlike Ford, Chevy, and ram, which have no value past 100k miles.

[@ashes2ashes863]

​​@@T_81535actually that's misinformation...in the full size trucks, the American trucks have better resale value... and that's despite the fact that people know they are going to be used for work. People don't buy Toyota's to use them for work. That's the whole reason Toyota doesn't make anything bigger than a half ton... Toyota can't hack it. The Tacomas used to have a good resale value but the newer generation doesn't because nobody likes them anymore. You see when Toyota had to start playing by the same rules as everybody else, all the sudden they build s***.

[@sdecourcy]

I owned a 2019 Toyota Tacoma and a 2005 Toyota Tundra. I loved my Taco, but my '05 was sooo smooth that I decided to keep it and sell my Tacoma.

[@TFLtruck]

Thank you for the feedback.

[@drayray4009]

My 4.7 was absolute bullet proof took it to 350k beat the crap of it and had no issues it was unbelievable

[@jqentertainment6966]

I saw a 2005 on FB marketplace with 618K miles and it still looks new

[@drayray4009]

@@jqentertainment6966 that’s wild

[@supervong1]

Once you go new, you wont go old. The new Tundra is a blast to drive with power and features.

[@linhunnicutt6556]

I wonder what the gas mileage would have been on the second GEN if Toyota would have put the 10 speed automatic with that 5.7 L V8. I believe we might see a better story with gas mileage with the 10 speed instead of the six speed. That 5.7 L V8 was a workhorse and rocksolid dependable.

[@Jay-me7gw]

It would still not have been good. The only way it would have been significantly better is with cylinder deactivation and direct injection and if they truck lost 600 lbs.

[@WX4GPS]

They say not to top off your tank after the nozzle shuts off but why do people wait 30 seconds and add more. They said its bad for the Evap system, any thoughts.

[@alskooper3319]

What happens? Liquid fuel can enter the charcoal vapor canister saturating the charcoal so the canister can’t vent vapor. Results, “engine light “ on and difficulties filling with fuel due to insufficient venting.

[@davidwelty9763]

When measuring efficiency the use of Premium in the new Tundra makes it less financially efficient right off the bat.

[@jasonbogdovitz7357]

I love that you measured all three distances of raking instead of just minus saying how far the truck next to it is ahead

[@paulharsh78]

I wouldn’t want to own the new one out of warranty. Meanwhile that 225k truck doing just fine. That 08 was $10,000. That’s a lot of gas to buy to get you to 80k.

[@Streetglide2021]

Lots of power in that V6 if it doesn’t blow up!!!

[@jamesbarker619]

I had a 2000 Tundra with the 4.7 engine. Awesome truck!!

[@chevyon37s]

My neighbor still drives his 1st gen Tundra to work every day.

[@number1yota]

So just throwing this out there, because all 3 of you did it. Toyota designed the fuel door to hold the fuel cap during fueling. There are little slots to put the gas cap in. 2006 Tundra MSRP $33,575 -----> $51,240 for inflation (11-16-2023). MSRP for Limited. (Top Spec) 2008 Tundra MSRP $42,170 -----> $60,261 for inflation (11-16-2023). MSRP for TRD Off Road. (Top Spec) 2023 Tundra MSRP $72,130 MSRP for TRD Pro. (2nd Highest Spec)

[@blazecarr]

You guys gotta find out one more drag race with the tundras! Please find a trd supercharged tundra and run it against the hybrid twin turbo. I've been curious about this one

[@Matt-tf1wz]

Well I have a supercharged 5.7 and the little 3.4 doesn't come close. And it was the ttd pro hybrid junk

[@T_81535]

​@@Matt-tf1wzwell that's not surprising seeing as a supercharged 5.7 is about as mean of a truck as one can get but I assure you the new gen hybrid is no slouch. BTW the hybrid system was added for performance not efficiency as was stated by Toyota's chief engineer.

[@Matt-tf1wz]

@tymt84 I have driven one and I agree they aren't slow by any means but they just are my cup of tea lol

[@jakebob5101]

Being a 1st gen owner I will say the basic simplicty of the 1st gen makes it a great choice. Light wieght truck that doesn't feel heavy and very comfortable to ride in.

[@robervin9107]

Nathan in the drag race number two. My favorite parts 7:34 7:42

[@Isenseven1080]

I gotta add, if you turn off traction control and turn on tow mode on the 5.7 Tundra then WOT from a stop without brakes the thing is an absolute rocket. If you own one, please try it for big smiles

[@777MilSim]

My 05 4.7 tundra has 385,000 miles on it, original motor and trans. Crazy great truck

[@jqentertainment6966]

I see them on FB marketplace with 280K plus miles, one even had 600K miles and they still go for $5K-$7K

[@stefanovichmichael9686]

Only bad part about this video is the interuption of the Ford commercial

[@TheReeper602]

I have a first gen tundra and a second gen sequoia. And let me tell you I love them both!!!!!

[@koomo801]

I think my 2000 Tundra will still be on the road 20 years from now and there won't be many 2023s around.

[@kylewallace4318]

Absolutely. I have an 03 4Runner with the 4.7. I religiously maintain it and theres no doubt it will still be on road for another 20 years. Probably not the case for these pros.

[@jqentertainment6966]

Exactly. We have had our 2002 since new and it has 113k miles (can't drive it in MN winters or it will rust away). Sure, we've had to do the timing belt/steering rack/water pump/spark plugs/coils but that's all we've done in the last 20 plus years. Still runs and drives like new

[@David-lu4th]

@@jqentertainment6966 Wow thats low miles! I'm sure it'll last you a long time

[@theconfused_fisherman]

I drove my 2009 Silverado from Detroit to upstate New York, 463 miles, and it got 21.2 mpg and that was calculated, not the dashboard. Old trucks really can be efficient

[@Captndarty]

I have a 2020 TRD PRO with a Harrop supercharger. The power is 550 squared. More than the 3.5 TT I’d like to see a drag race between the two to see if the 10 speed is that much better than the 6 speed that it would give the TT Iforce MAX the advantage for the win?

[@GeorgeJFW]

How many miles do you have on the super charger? I would love to do the upgrade but I am worried about reliability.

[@Captndarty]

@@GeorgeJFWprobably 25,000. Haven’t had a single check engine light after the tune so for me, it’s been super reliable. On the daily I don’t drive it much harder than when it didn’t have the supercharger with the exception of the occasional on-ramp pull or passing from 70 to 90 and when towing. Sure it pulls really hard at 5500 RPM but I mostly enjoy the benefits of the supercharger between 1500 to 3000 RPM. If I drive it with the same acceleration as stock I get about the same mpg. Towing is a different story🤬

[@firstlast---]

My dream setup I'll never have the money for it

[@jmd11185]

My guess is, if anything, the 10 speed woukd hold it back in a race- 2 gear changes to 60 verses 1

[@jmd11185]

​@@GeorgeJFWdon't worry! They don't usually recommend putting them in broken in trucks (115,000 mileage plus) but if it's low mileage, you have nothing to worry about. I can't speak for Hartop but the sooner you put a supercharger on the truck, the better the long term reliability it will have with a supercharger. Toyota used to install the TRD Superchargers on the brand new trucks which wouldn't void the warranty.

[@wesfields9322]

1st gen tundra 2uzfe looks the best and checks all the necessary bells and whistles for a half ton experience.

[@bartwaggoner2000]

Pressurized fuel system. Premium fuel. 2 turbos to fail. Don’t come at me with Toyota reliability - this is stupidly complex and I will find a used older gen Tundra.

[@alexgray7329]

Reliable turbo engines have been around for 30 years

[@David-lu4th]

Did you ever find one? I love my 1st gen 2000. Only on its 23rd year did parts start wearing out and I had to do a lot of maintenance and replacements... that being said, the engine is super reliable and its one of the easiest vehicles to work on

[@jqentertainment6966]

Have a 2002 tundra with the 4.7 with 113k miles. Love it

[@DirtE30]

Silly not to use the same fuel across the board if you’re doing a comparison. Both the V8’s can benefit albeit probably not as much at altitude.

[@Rev-rd8ne]

Agreed. The 3.5TT takes 87, so they could have put that in all the trucks too.

[@SME5724]

My coworker has a 2000 tundra with the 4.7 and about 450,000 hard miles on it … he does not baby that thing and never has … TANK

[@David-lu4th]

All they need is regular maintenance and parts replacement as necessary... they sure can take a beating! 450 is insane! Mine is a 2000 4.7 also, but it only has 238k on it. Your buddy truly does drive that ol beast!

[@markmoore236]

I wonder how long those turbos will last? Replacing won’t be cheap

[@coachwedd6608]

I have the 2019 Tundra Crew Cab. 5.7L. 40k miles. Runs like a top

[@Danzilly]

I'll take the 4.7l. Proven million mile engine.

[@damilolaakanni]

The 5.7 is also a million mile engine. Pretty much every Toyota V8 from the 90's and 2000's are.

[@Stackali]

there is a caveat on that. the guy was driving around 150k miles a year. this basically goes fore most cars that have gotten to 1 million miles. the driver was driving a crazy amount of miles a year on pretty much all of them. its a great engine and you should be able to get 400k to 500k with normal driving. there are thinks like starting and shutting down an engine that play into the lifespan of an engine.

[@highplainsdrifter9849]

Blaine Johnsons million mile 5.7 Tundra on KZbin.

[@johnpeters9793]

1 million miles on a 4.7l = $10,000 in scheduled maintenance. $5k if you take a chance doing timing belt @ 200k miles $3k if you DIY. 2ND gen launch was an "embarrassment" according to a toyota executive. I've owned both trucks.. The 4.7 with its known cracked exhaust manifold tick was annoying AF. Ball joints clunking @ 100k miles. My 2nd 5.7 did not have all the known problems...but it had enough of them and a few more. Average trucks....

[@Pantelifts10]

​@@johnpeters9793average compared to what? Cause they were most reliable out of all for many years in a row.

[@craighoffman8160]

I owned an '02 Tundra. Adding an aftermarket "Y" pipe (where the V8's two banks meet to exit out the single piped exhaust) to replace the stupidly pinched stock one freed up some power and improved economy, this was an easy and common mod for those old 4.7s. Had zero problems with my '02. For my needs, a 1st Gen Tundra with updated interior / connectivity would be the perfect truck. The new stuff is completely out of hand size and cost wise. I currently own a '17 GMC Canyon with the 2.8 turbodiesel. That has been a great truck, very fuel efficient (28 MPG lifetime) and it has 440 pound feet of accessible low end torque with a GDE tune. The funny thing is the "mid size" Canyon is narrower but otherwise not too different in size than my '02 Tundra was. One thing I do appreciate with the newer trucks - deeper beds. The '02 had a pretty shallow bed on it.

[@depotdan4654]

2nd gen owner. Repainted truck rather than buy new. Have a buddy with a 1st gen that pulls custom gooseneck trailer. Upgrade the radiator and trans cooler, will tow forever.

[@jonnyboy6359]

One of the best videos you all have put out in a while. Loved this matchup of trucks and presenters. Really want to see a new midsize shootout when you get the new Tacoma against Colorado, refreshed Gladiator, and Frontier

[@BackRoadBound]

I had a 2008 Regular cab 5.7 Tindra. Was a beast. 14.2 Stock. High 13’s with intake and exhaust. Low 12’s with TRD supercharger

[@roadglide1142]

That new turbo turd won’t make it to 200K miles too! 😂

[@themonkeyfinesse]

We'll come back to this comment in the future

[@taylorjanowiak8180]

Nathan is great. I loved his backhanded compliments to the 3rd gen

[@harrymaier5727]

get your nails done when you have to wait for your little turbo engine to be fixed....😂

[@davidroberts6594]

You tell that to the many ford v6 Ecoboost guys also?

[@massif1007]

I put 467K miles on my 2003 Tundra. Best motor ever built. Still ran perfect when I sold it. I sold it to a kid in the neighborhood who now off roads it. I now have a 2010 with 80K miles and love it. I will never spend 70K for a work truck. I bought my 2010 two years ago in mint condition with 16871 miles. Yes 16871 miles 12 years old. Price was 32K at Carmax.

[@shilohjung3876]

I have the 2007 sr5 5.7 llimited crew cab. Bought it at 120000 miles and currently a little over 180000 I know I have exceeded the weight. For towing Pulling a 26ft car trailer with a cat 299d skid steer pulling wise was great only wish I had a trailer break controller. But with managing speed knowing stops and turns. It handles right acceleration it greats towing or not. And plows through snow like a champ