2014 Chevy Silverado 6.2L takes on Nissan, Ford & the Ike Gauntlet 2.0 Mega Tow Test (Episode 3)

( www.TFLtruck.com ) What half ton pickup truck is the towing king of the world? This time we've upped the ante and we go all in with 10,000 pounds of pain. Is it the Ford F-150 or the Nissan Titan or the new Chevy Silverado 6.2L. Today on The Fast Lane Truck we put these three of these trucks to the test as they take on the Ike Gauntlet 2.0.
In Episode 3 we test the most powerful light duty truck in America.....The Ford F-150 EcoBoost
The Ike Gauntlet is a timed run up one of America's steepest highways from 9,000 feet above sea level to the top of the mountain at entrance to the Eisenhower Tunnel in Colorado. Check out this promo for what's coming up soon on The Fast Lane Truck.
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[@carmencolumbusohio]

I choose the Chevy, NOT because it has the most power but from experience. I started school in 2006 driving my fathers 1996 Tahoe LT and I finished my masters in 2002 and the entire time the truck NEVER gave me any issues. I had to put a battery in it and that was it. No leaks, no breaking down.. Nothing. So my dad purchased a 2007 Tahoe and he hasn't had any issues out of his. So now its my turn to purchase a new Tahoe. GM has earned my business through quality and reliability. WELL DONE!

[@Mathicuss]

Could not agree more.

[@dlakerguy]

He says its a problem that he accidently turns on the 4WD when trying to turn on the lights. News flash... the lights are AUTOMATIC. You don't have to turn them on or off. Leave them alone and you wont mess that up.

[@KingDavid314]

sealtite904 I have to agree with both of you guys. If you can't tell the difference between a number & a symbol you need to rethink your life.

[@sterlingmiles1948]

fully agree!! what a dumb nitpick!! he also said the mirror control was under the dash.. lol come on why the heck does that matter.

[@CastandBlast]

I was pulling for the Silverado, and I am very pleased that you kept the test fair showing exactly how it performed. It is what it is with that transmission shifting. P.S. I'm buying one.

[@antoniovillanueva308]

My 14 year old Chevrolet has a 5.3 with 200K+ and EVERYTHING still works. The motor and trans are smooth and powerful as ever. I will wait and see if the Eco-boost V6 will have that kind of longevity.

[@stephenmontgomery6043]

Ace Aardvark it will lol

[@Realtruck]

Interesting test, not to many people get to test their pickups in the mountains. Valuable info

[@MegaTechpc]

Only thing I would complain about (and I know it doesn't really matter because the Titan is simply over matched here) is that Nathan adhered to the old rules of staying at or below 60mph in the Titan's run but both the Ford and the Chevy were allowed to run over 60mph quite a bit. Otherwise, another great video guys and I can't wait until you get some more trucks to test with the Ike Gauntlet's new 2.0 rules!

[@duggydo]

I enjoy rewatching these videos. I have to think you guys helped the truck makers step up their performance. These tests are really good.

[@cnelson0541]

notice he neglected to activate the tow/haul mode during the down hill test in the F150

[@nitroevaderbx]

the silverado has automatic headlights and they have had for quite some time now so you never need to touch the headlight switch.

[@heinzkitzvelvet]

Is that why I keep seeing cars go down the road at night with headlights on, but no taillights?

[@LuxuryOutdoorLiving]

I've always been a fan of chevy and owned silverados. I have a 30 bumper pull travel trailer that I towed with my 09 silverado 2wd TX edition and it literately took everything that 5.3 had to pull that trailer. I got tired of being scared to tow my trailer so I traded that turd in on a 2013 f150 4x4 ecoboost. It's the first f150 I've owned and it out performs the silverado in every way possible. POWER, mpg, ride quality, cabin noise, even technology. This ecoboost pulls my camper so effortlessly that when we got to the campsite the tv, toaster over, food, etc was all in the floor from when I stomped it to see what it could do lol. Someone else put it best when they said Chevrolet is their own worst enemy, they have literately chased their own loyal customers to the competition.

[@Trades46]

The engine braking, that's good. The transmission gear-hunting all day uphill, not so much...

[@IDIRIEIMIMIEIL]

Everyone is all fighting about Ford vs Chevy and I'm still amazed a 10-year-old Titan is keeping up with the "new" trucks.

[@DonSWG]

So, I get that they did the test this way to maintain consistency, but what I take away from this is that if they did it in manual, it probably would've been very competitive, if not the fastest of the bunch.

[@G8GTJav]

In my experience, the Silverado's tow/haul mode is only useful for going downhill. Appears to be the same with the new Silverado. Yeah, it holds gears longer but the programming is not aggressive enough going uphill & doesn't kick down when you want. I've towed a fully loaded trailer w/ a 2010 Vortec MAX 6.0 A6 w/ 3.73 going up steep mountains (Bay Area to Reno) & it worked great! More than enough power to stay at 65 mph. The trick/easy fix is to put it in manual mode & select the gear you want. It will hold the gear until you tell it otherwise. Works well going downhill too. While you were testing, what gear did it want to stay in? BTW, tell "Mr. Truck", who appears to favor Fords anyway, that Silverado's peak torque may come at 4,100 rpm but it still has plenty torque down low. That is one of the main benefits of Direct Injection, more low-end torque. I'm guessing, just like the new LT1, the L86 has about 90% of its peak torque between 3,000 and 5,500 rpm or maybe even better. As evidenced in the video, the Silverado had no problem breaking the tires loose while accelerating from a stop with the trailer. Problem isn't the torque but the GM TCM programming. I imagine that issue will soon be resolved with aftermarket tuning. Good review though. You guys kept it as fair as you could & Ecoboost clearly came out ahead in acceleration/maintaining speed. Don't know about longevity/reliability though. Heard people are having issues with the Ecoboost.

[@slow04gt]

good test but in the video yall didnt turn on tow haul in the ecoboost until on the way up. because if yall wouldve had it set on the way down engine braking is extremely strong and the brakes wouldnt have been used as much

[@ChargedTTq]

It's probably designed to downshift late for engine longevity. The heat soak of a 420hp engine could definitely reduce engine life.

[@DJKiDDKlashez]

Could that be it though? I really think it's more for fuel economy to be honest. I wonder if the last gen trucks would do the same or not...

[@BlackGT1999]

Engine longevity? Wut... Lol

[@Rtvoll]

So basically it's a nice truck with a very strong engine that is neutered by super shitty gearing. GM is focusing way to much on fuel economy rather then actual towing capability.

[@cliffordwilliams4324]

I have an 04 Titan. It was the oldest but, it showed 10 years later why it was on of the best trucks built in the USA.......

[@Ratkill9000]

+Earnest Williams Problem is bad radiator, bad shackle design until 08, bad axles.

[@ThmsPtrsn]

If they do the engine brake on one they should do it on all of them, and I think the gear ratios on the Ecoboost are more refined for the torque band on it. Also if you want fuel economy, I would really advise against the 3.73, plus since that gear is so much shorter you won't have the torque in the right rpm interval at the right time for the F-150. Although I would agree that if they did use the manual gear election on the Silverado they would have had an easier time. If you really are planning on towing 10,000+ in real life, get a diesel.

[@TheBladeSickness]

I drive a 4 speed with 5th gear overdrive standard shift f150. It's not the most capable, but when it comes to towing, I dont need fancy engine braking modes because I can control it all myself. With almost 200,000 on it, she's still running good. Not trying to argue anything, just giving my experience.

[@Y0L0212]

man, that ecoboost is impressive!

[@MPEGDAVE]

Wow very impressive! The only truck that was able to haul 10,000 LBS up the IKE in High Gear!!!! What's more impressive is the new 6.2L being the most powerful gas motor in all competition including the new HIMI 6.4L. Good work GM.

[@arkhsm]

High gear, then low gear, time and time again. Could you be kind enough to use your eyes next time !!

[@Tigersfan829]

1. The twin turbo on the ecoboost can suck in 25% more air. When you're 10,000 feet up, that helps. 2. The chevy got .5 mpg better than the ecoboost 3. If he had manually selected gears he wouldn't have the gear hunting problem. 4. I thought the purpose of the ecoboost was for power AND great fuel economy? I've heard a lot of people aren't happy with their ecoboost fuel economy.

[@farmerallis]

I'm wondering what the reliability of those engine will be, too. Turbochargers on gasoline engines don't have a great history of reliability.

[@Treyk901]

I have noticed that when I use regular 87 fuel, my MPG, especially when towing, isn't fantastic. I read through the manual and it stated to use premium fuel when towing. I tried this and noticed not only improved MPG, but improved performance. I only use 93 fuel now. I get about 19 MPG going 70 with 93 octane and only about 14 MPG when 87 octane. I have filled up at discount stations before and averaged 12.7 MPG, twice! I couldn't even break the tires loose with that gas it was so bad. This engine is picky with what gas to use and it makes a huge difference.

[@farmerallis]

That's interesting info. So the slight improvement in mileage is offset by the much more significant increase in price for the 93 octane fuel. I wonder if the new GM engines will be picky on fuel, too.

[@JaredJanhsen]

I get 20's all the time on the highway in my Ecoboost when not towing which for me isn't very often. Which is really the target segment for this engine. The guy that wants all the power he can stand when he occasionally tows, but isn't going broke keeping the truck fed. If I were towing on a more regular basis I would have bought another Superduty Diesel.

[@walliehart2414]

Can't defeat the laws of physics. BTU'S. In truth the smaller engines are being overburdened, ford and chevy used to understand that torque rules the day. Big blocks in a tow truck. And you only need 3 gears. Lol. Tiny wound up engines will blow apart just after warranty is up. Just as designed.

[@chikken_soup]

Of all the trucks tested in this segment this Chevy is the most manly looking truck

[@dhutch1115]

If they had engaged tow haul mode on the Ford going down the hill it also would have used engine braking thus making the brakes much cooler.

[@victorbarragan1516]

I'm a Nissan and ford guy. I own a 06 nissan armada LE and a 08 ford f250 6.4 But I'm pretty impressed with the f150 in this video! Not hating on any of these trucks. They all made it without a problem! I give them a thumbs up :)

[@Mctsep]

nice!! i love my ecoboost but at sea level i wouldnt want to race a 6.2 silverado.

[@CBooze176]

Re-do the test. The Ford was not in tow haul till half way and you had the hill decent control off. Also, run each truck 3 times. Each driver drive each truck so you can get a more acurate review. Thanks guys.

[@Wyomingfarmer]

Not bad until it burns down! Either way the Ford eco boost is a better design, now whether it holds up or not I don't know. But cutting cylinders in an engine is a waste of energy. Plus at higher elevations the Ford won't gasp for air like a naturally aspirated engine.

[@Hammy16]

It's shifting late because your foot is on the floor. My Suburban and Silverado both would downshift if you let your foot up a little, but I also use manual shift on my pickup. Also, how often are you adjusting your mirrors? If the mirror controls were so far under the dash that they couldn't be used, it wouldn't have left design. A little squeeze to get to the mirror switch is an ok compromise in my book. I agree that the trailer brake controller is on the wrong side. In regards to the 4WD and light dials, the old trucks had similar dials too, and GM products going back at least a decade have automatic headlamps, so most people never have to touch the lamp dial. If you own the truck for long term, you learn where the dials and switches are and it becomes muscle memory.

[@northerntimberoutdoors9319]

The Chevy's tow rating was 11,800 pounds WHAT!!!!! It was the only truck that wasn't overloaded, and it had 55 horse and 40 torque on the ECOBEAST lol That truck was gear hunting big time but bogging down too 2900 rpm has its advantages I guess like 3.4 mpg vs 2.9mpg ha. I'll be honest at first the way it took off I thought for sure it would be the fastest and the brake temps were impressive but the ford is king... Great video TFLT

[@gaylordhooker6823]

the only thing here that should be considered here is that the turbo on the ford is not affected by the altitude you put these trucks at a lower altitude where 99% of people would have been towing the chevy would have blown theford away in every category.

[@LloydJiraiyaSS]

Hey im left handed lol. The GM 1500 do have transmission and engine restrictions to meet the 100k mile power-train warranty. A simple tune fixes that ....but it still was a nice test

[@Pop_Shepski]

I love my Ram. But if I had to have something else, It would be one of these 2014 GMs

[@runningspades]

I am impressed by how the titan did. It was towing 1000+ more lbs than its regulation. He twin turbo did help the f150 by far. Was a lil disappointed by the chevy. It should not have torque regulation. In my mindy and evaluation: titan, f150, & silverado. Wid more torque/hp n towing capacity, Silverado should have done better. Kudos to nissan

[@BrennanVisniar]

im a ford fan but in all seriousness the altitude gave the twin turbo the advantage, it would be equal times of the ford and chevy at sea level

[@HOWNDOG66]

Of coarse an NA engine will suffer more at altitude than a turbo but we haul stuff up hills! Almost twice the CID should make it more "equal"?

[@geosh10]

I have a Ford F 150 lariat 4×4 with 198,000 miles and it's still going strong!!

[@pankajantal82]

I am more interested to see hemi 6.4 in action now .... After seeing GMC 6.2 which somewhat disappointed me.

[@anthonymacneil2279]

Very impressive the 6.2

[@daleliske9757]

Oh, and I've overloaded my payload my 6.5 box by 1.5 ton of gravel, sure it was only for a short time, 2 miles to my driveway where I unloaded it. It flexed the frame so much that the back window squeaked on rough dirt roads, but after 2 months, everything must've went back to normal, no more squeaks .!

[@danhellerjr]

Hey TFLT guys... I just watched the Ike Gauntlet 2 (again) and thought of something. You guys reported the "efficiency" of the trucks in MPGs (Mile-Per-Gallons). Um, I don't think that's right. I think the true "efficiency" of this particular comparison should've been "GPS" (Gallon-Per-Second). I think the EcoBoost would come out on top again, but I think to do it right you should put a flow meter on the fuel lines, run them again and use the "GPS" formula. "GPS" = gallons of fuel / seconds The higher the better. Forward my comment to any mathematic pro and they'll agree.

[@DolleHengst]

Dude, that's just a silly way to make the Ford look better. All three cars did the same amount of miles, did exactly the same task, and the Ford used up the most fuel doing so. How hard can it be? If you put a fuel meter on the lines that measures gallons per second, the lower is better. Not the higher. Basically.... you're an idiot.

[@danhellerjr]

DolleHengst Really? Apparently your reading comprehension isn't what it should be. Try reading what I wrote again - slower this time. You'll see I explained the "GPS" formula as "gallons of fuel / seconds". The "/" symbol means "divided by" - it's apparent you don't know that. If they knew EXACTLY how much gas was used right down to the drop (flow meter) and then divide that measurement in gallons by how many seconds the run took, it would result in a very small decimal figure - or score if you will. The higher the "score", the better. This was a RACE 1st & foremost - if they felt the need to report the "efficiency", they should've expressed it in a relative way. MPGs would've only been truly relative if all the trucks were traveling at the same speed the entire run. Basically... I'm not an idiot & you can't read.

[@danhellerjr]

DolleHengst In your defense, "GPS" isn't the best abbreviation/name for that formula. However, I did explain what it meant. I'm not sure how to express a formula like that - gallons divided by time (G/T) or some shit. I'm no mathematics professor but I know MPG isn't relevant when the variable of speed is introduced.

[@DolleHengst]

Daniel Heller Look, the Ford performed best. It towed that trailer up the hill with the highest speed. So it pulled harder than the other trucks. It had more power. Power is energy. A combustion engine needs fuel to create energy. It's only fair that the Ford used more fuel. It worked harder. If a guy runs a marathon in 3 hours, he will burn more calories then when he does it in 4 hours. But you can't have both; be fast and use little energy.

[@danhellerjr]

Agreed. In one of the other episodes of this series, I said something very similar. When I would put the pedal to the floor, I'd EXPECT it to DRINK the gas as fast it could burn it. Full throttle & cruise control are polar opposites.

[@HVACguy813]

I love how they have the Silverado is in tow-haul the entire time, while Mr Truck shifted into Tow-Haul halfway up the hill and I don't believe it was in tow-haul at all on the way down.

[@thegreatga]

Would have been interesting to also taken the Chevy up the hill in manual transmission mode. I understand it wouldn't fit the testing but still, it looked very held back by a underwhelming transmission programming. Great video

[@dfink1859]

thegreatga ccfuck

[@alacey82]

For those that say that they just should have put it in manual shift mode, it wouldn't have helped much. If you look at 12:29 of the Chevy video, he is at 50 mph at 3000 rpm. Based on the tire size for that rim and the rear gear ratio that would mean he was in 3rd gear at that time based on the gearing of the GM 6L80 transmission. When the truck downshifted into 2nd, it went into the 5,000 rpm range. Based on previous videos of the guys showing the rpm gauge at WOT, we know that it pegs out at 5,750 at WOT before it shifts. With the gearing of the Chevy's 2nd gear(2.364:1) the max you can go even in manual mode is 62 mph before you are bouncing off the rev limiter at 5,750 rpm so even manual mode would have helped this truck get a better time than the Ecoboost that had plenty of power and rpm in 3rd gear to go faster.

[@arkhsm]

Well said !!

[@arnoldtx100]

1) If you didn't use the brakes you cant say they are the best. 2) To get accurate MPG you cant use the on board MPG system. 3) Watching hand movements adjusting the steering wheel the chevy took a lot more corrections than the other 2 trucks.

[@stephenmontgomery6043]

I traded my 6.2 tahoe with 3.73's (absolute gas hog , not much better than my old 454 truck ) for an ecoboost f150 with 373's the low end torque it makes in stock form is insane . I added sct tuner and corsa exhaust added 100 ft lbs torque all on bottom end pulls 8k trailer with little effort

[@KyleMcCrary]

yall complain about it down shifting but you could always use the manual option... just a thought.

[@MaxEffortSooner]

Tow/haul mode will help keep you out of an emergency situation. Again most manufactures the (major brands) program the trucks to engine brake when the truck senses its being pushed down hill. Now for those that don't slow as quickly as possible and change to the lower gear setting. This will force the truck to engine brake.

[@lawnboy81SMS]

3:32 into the video, the safety chains are not properly hooked up. They are not crisscrossed (right chain on left of hitch, left chain hooked to right side of hitch), and they are not facing the right way with the hooks facing in the proper direction. This can be dangerous had the trailer come unhooked, the chains wouldn't do their job properly.

[@lawnboy81SMS]

True, very true. But even so, it is best to cross them.

[@greekphysique6141]

Titan is still a beast!

[@threefortyduster]

Pretty surprised at how bad the transmission programming was on the Chevy. There's just nothing you can do up in those altitudes about forced induction though. Time to run the Ram back up the gauntlet and see if it can knock the EcoBoost off. All those talking about it's just a V6 need to drop it, it's a V6 with fake displacement added via turbocharging. That's what boost does, it artificially increases the engine's displacement, and if you notice, the V6 did get worse fuel mileage (yes, it is a concern when towing, it's nice to know you can make it to the next gas station). Great engine, but it's not like Ford is using a naturally aspirated V6 to compete with V8s here.

[@threefortyduster]

The Ram makes good power, but it also has a gear advantage over the Chevy. It has 8 gears to choose from and won't have to try and figure out. Drop the fanboy stuff and let's talk real stuff here. Adding boost is adding false displacement. That is how it works. More air+more fuel=more power. I'm not saying it's bad, hell, I love turbos, and diesels are complete crap without a turbo strapped to them, but it doesn't change how they work. Plus, who knows, maybe the Ram acts like the Chevy, but how does one know unless they run it?

[@J-W.-]

Fake displacement? That's the first. And um who cares about fuel economy when towing ? No matter what you do its still going to be bad because your obviously pulling something that's heavy power and good fuel economy does not go together especially when we're talking about trucks and it doesn't matter if they didn't use a naturally aspirated engine the point is the chevy was gear searching made for economy which I don't understand in a truck like that

[@seanya9989]

jejeosborne Yeah, but who buys a truck for fuel efficiency?

[@threefortyduster]

***** They did the Ram with the 7200 lb trailer and the guys, and it went faster than the EcoBoost (by .06 seconds, easily an error on the stopwatch). The 5.7 makes 395 hp and 410 lb-ft, hardly weak compared to the others, especially when it was just proven that the transmission, gearing, and powerband is just as important as peak power. (6.2 with 420 hp and 460 tq can't hang with a 365 hp/420 tq motor)

[@threefortyduster]

Honestly, at the end of the day, the test ended up being a 0-60 test since most of the trucks could keep the grade at the speed limit. The Ram and the Ford both held 60 the whole way. 10,000 lbs could be different, but we don't know until they run it, hence...run the Ram with the 10,000 lbs and see how it fares. If you notice, I nowhere said in my original comment that it would be ZOMG THE FASTEST THING EVAR!!!!, I simply said run it again, with the bigger trailer, then we know. Yes, I drive a Ram. Yes, I can separate facts from fanboy.

[@jcrews3]

This test results wasn't what I hoped but I'm still impressed with all the trucks they tested. I'm a gm guy but I have to give the ford props. The 6.2 is still bad ass with some more aggressive gears and it would have kicked ass. But the grade braking and fuel economy were good considering it's the biggest engine of the bunch. As for guys saying the ram could beat the 6.2 you must be smoking because the ram barley beats the 6.2 time up the grade with a 2000 pound lighter trailer. Good job gm and ford

[@hackfreehvac]

The Chevy of course had the best ENGINE BRAKING because it has 6.2 Liter of displacement. The only disadvantage of FORD using the small turbo engine is lack of engine breaking because it is small. But the little tiny 3.5 ecoboost had way more power at low RPM's than that big 6.2 Chevy did. If the guy kept that Chevy manually down in gear and let the pig scream at 5,000 RPM's in a lower gear it might have held 60. I like ecoboost. Imaging if Ford made a Ecoboost V8. But people would kill themselves with that kind of power. :-p

[@jamesavery6154]

horse chit chevy the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@nathanmcdonald610]

There are rumors that Ford is currently working on a Twin Turbo 5.0L V8.

[@hackfreehvac]

Nathan McDonald That would be really awesome. And way too much power for most people. LOL

[@hackfreehvac]

***** Do you think a person getting a twin turbo 5.0 is going to "save gas"? LOL Turbos don't always die at 60k. They will if abused, turned off scorching hot instead of allowing it to idle and cool down with the flow of oil, etc. Turbo Diesels even the old powerstroke were often going 200k on the original turbos. And when people pay over 40k for a sports car they got to know that it will have some pricy maintenance some day.

[@marines496]

hackfreehvac its like saying a diesel turbo doesnt last. Trust me turbos last

[@benigo15]

Hopefully next year gm will give this an 8 speed, because this would be a beast with a 8 speed

[@markmd695]

It's pretty easy to see who wins here. Even with a bigger motor, the Chevrolet is simply inferior.

[@bigman55434]

It was inferior at that elevation, where it was down 30% on power. If I lived in the mountains and towed big loads every day, I'd take a diesel any day of the week. If I towed occasionally at elevation, I'd take that little ecoboost motor. It is really impressive all around.

[@markmd695]

Agreed I'd take a Cummins myself any day of the week. But coming from a Sierra (2011) to a 13 ecoboost, I'm really happy. And disappointed with Chevy overall. I waited for the new 14 to come out hoping it would give me more interior room, more power from the engine (namely the 5.3v8) and while it did offer more than the previous model, I had to walk away with even the dealer telling me their truck couldn't compete with Fords for what I wanted under 50k

[@jaspersa4987]

Mark Carder More interior room? You are saying that the last one didn't have enough interior room? Are you 1000 lbs or something? I have more than enough room in my EP3 Civic lol.

[@markmd695]

Jas Persa. No but I have a family and the back is incredibly small compared to the Ford. It's nice not having my kids be able to kick the back of my seat all the time. I'm glad you have plenty of room in the civic. I had an ek before but my head hit the roof, after college it went bye bye. No more problems in big trucks. As for being 1000lbs no. I am 6'1 220lbs.

[@DerpInTheWoods]

Mark Carder gotta admit, that T/H mode going down the hill was quite sweet.

[@JoshSTEELERS]

Should have put it in manual mode and shifted it yourself because gm vehicles are known to be designed to get to the highest gear possible as quick as possible. They design them that was so they get good MPG #s from the EPA. The Silverado definitely had the power to pull the trailer If it would have stayed in the right gear.

[@k2sb20033]

Nathan & Roman, Thank you for posting this. Question for you guys... a buddy just purchased the F150 Ecoboost and had the same issues with the brakes getting pretty hot... when he went to the dealership they showed him how to "initiate" the engine braking feature by double tapping the brake pedal. My question is if Mr. Truck was doing this or not?

[@esthertrue8665]

Get Japanese pads for the f150

[@ridngsxrs]

Don't forget the Titan is the cheapest at $43,355 while the Chevy is $51,560 and the Ford is $54,550. All prices are as tested as shown in this video. A difference of $11,195 makes a huge difference on your monthly payments.

[@markab71]

Keep in mind that Mr. Truck kept letting off the throttle with the Ford to keep from doing 80 miles per hour. In reality if he kept his foot on the floor the time with the Ford would of been even faster. Unless Roman was lying he said he kept the pedal to the floor. This is pretty disappointing to all you Chevy Fanboys I know, but keep your head up and wait for the 2015 F150 to come out! Then y'all can burry your face with embarrassment!

[@alacey82]

The sad thing is that Chevy rates 5.3Lwith the 3.42 rear axle and identical cab configuration at 9,600lbs which is identical to the tow rating of the F150 in this video. Go figure.

[@stchman]

***** My guess it would have been about the same, maybe a tad slower than the 6.2L. This assumes you would have the 3.42 gears, not the 3.08.

[@kirbyswarp]

Making shit up to make yourself feel better. Ford fanboys...

[@markab71]

kirbyswarp Explain what was "made up"?

[@Choppy2400]

you drive your ford ill drive my chevy

[@joshuabradshaw2201]

Love their videos but wish they would test the 5.3 4x4 with the 3.43 rear end .... about to attempt 8k lbs with one

[@nitroevaderbx]

running the trucks at that high of rpm for that long just seems like a bad idea to me.

[@Da1Apprentice]

yeah, That's the down side of the automatic transmission unfortunately

[@nitroevaderbx]

Pascal Boursiquot yes i would imagine a manual doing better. they still cant get an automatic to have half as good of judgement as a human with a manual.

[@fern8974]

Jacob Lauritzen these trucks have manual mode.....

[@mikechga]

Two things I wish you would have made a part of the analysis. First is sticker price. unfair to compare $38K to $52K. Second I agree with your analysis that the GM engineers placed a premium on fuel economy. Take a second, timed, run down-shifting the trans (the way normal folks would do) and check the time and the fuel economy if it were done right. ALSO, at 3.0 mpg the size of the gas tank becomes really important.

[@peterserio7349]

Come on guys. You are claiming that the Chevy consumed less gas based on the onboard computer's readout? What if the lowest that the readout goes is 3.2mpg? Also, take into account that the Chevy took 1 more min climbing the Ike. How much more fuel did it use during that 1 min. You guys should have done the mpg calculations manually. Sorry, that's not real world testing.

[@TFLtruck]

Thanks for the comment. Actually that is exactly real world testing. We're doing the same way that a truck buyer would measure MPG in the real world. We're pretty certain that in the real truck world buyers don't drain the fuel tank to get an exact measure of MPG.

[@peterserio7349]

I still maintain that the onboard computer can't be used for this test because the trucks are at WOT. Do we know whether the lowest digital readout on the Chevy is 3.2mpg whereas the other two trucks are 2.9mpg? What if the numbers don't go any lower? Also, the Ford made it up the IKE, roughly based on the times, about 12% quicker. That means that the Chevy was at WOT 12% longer. If we take roughly 7 miles and divide it my 2.9, that means the Ford consumed 2.41 gallons of fuel for the run. If you take 7 miles and divide it my 3.2, the Chevy consumed 2.19 gallons of fuel for the run. Are you telling me that the Chevy consumed overall less fuel while being at WOT for 1 min longer? In my opinion, the only way to measure fuel consumption is to do it manually but I understand it is not easy. As cool as the Ike Gauntlet tests are, maybe you guys should pick a 10mile highway run which includes some level land....well as level as possible in Colorado.

[@drummerboy11122]

+Peter Serio At 6:03 the MPG is clearly at 2.4. So yes, it does read less than 3.2

[@JasonDenisyuk]

+Peter Serio the fuel is MPG,miles per gallon,not gallons per minutes

[@peterserio255]

+Ethan Maltsburger . Yeah...and it was rising to 2.5 while at WOT. I never saw a vehicle get better mileage while using more gas.

[@Spaulding1995]

When towing that much weight in hills, use manual mode because the "D" or drive is for normal driving. When you activate tow/haul mode, it will change the shifts but it is still trying to balance fuel economy and power. If you want full power, take control of the transmission; it's easy, and GM will actually tell you that in your owners manual: "Shift the transmission to a lower gear selection if the transmission shifts too often". If that would have been done, it would have at least matched the Ford in time if not beat it. It was the best down the hill and would have been the best up the hill if operated properly...

[@lfsracer79]

3:26 That's what she said.

[@toyota-dx7ff]

Im a chevy guy, I appreciate the guys who have fords, chevys and dodge trucks and dont bash on each others car brand just because they down drive it or because of stupid reasons like the gov bailout. And btw the gov sold there shares.

[@yep1825]

Raptor even beat the silverado, and it did it turning 35" tires. Ford domination!

[@krazor8]

dad just got the 6.2 to do some hauling, and it needs some shift timing, and computer logic improvment

[@DUNEATV]

The Ford beat both trucks and they were letting off the gas...Build FORD Tough!

[@JasonDenisyuk]

+rhino250r ha-ha FOUND DEAD OVER THE ROAD or FIX OR REPAIR DAILY ! THATS FORD! GM IS MUTCH BATTER,AND NISSAN PRO-4X IS THE BEST OFF ROAD PICK-UP.

[@DUNEATV]

+Jason Denisyuk nice spelling! Lol

[@DUNEATV]

+northlander LOL!!!

[@JAC13]

+Jason Denisyuk sure tell that to my 3 fords with over 300,000 miles each and only standard maintenance done. My chevy work truck was always in the shop and my gmc van has had the transmission replaced. Go back to chevy daycare so they can keep spoon feeding you.

[@jeffhorton8737]

+northlander what truck do u drive

[@dkhill27]

Now lets do a diesel challenge. Cummins Vs. Duramax Vs. Powerstroke. All 3/4 tons. And call it Ike Gauntlet Diesel Challenge.

[@modru2004]

your flooring the truck. in that one gear you had enough power to accelerate, when it up shifted your rpms dropped down and it couldn't make enough torque to accelerate or maintain. your speed fell eventually the truck sees that and decides to downshift. rinse and repeat. if you had stopped flooring it in the gear you were accelerating it in you could have held it and maintained speed. also some of those trucks have the ability manually shift. would have been useful for this test.

[@Tigersfan829]

All these people saying ''GM paid for this test they had Ford use the ecoboost and not the 6.2!'' Don't you think maybe they chose the ecoboost because of the twin turbos when they're 10,000 feet up? I doubt the Ford 6.2 would do much better than the ecoboost since it's naturally aspirated.

[@zitterich246]

Yep, the ecoboost is much better suited for this test at altitude

[@360ModsandHacks]

This is obviously Favorited by Chevy, hinting the first 10 seconds in the video. They say its the "Most powerful light duty truck" at 0:10, but how do they know because its only 10 seconds in. haha

[@TBear114]

***** Maybe the main guy is, but the younger goatee guy loves Ford and the older goatee guy drives a Ford if I remember correctly.

[@Mathicuss]

***** What??? lol they just got a ford raptor as there camera vehicle. And it is the most powerful truck you can buy today but because they were so high up and ford had turbos well it will do better up there.

[@co1003]

Uh...Maybe because the 6.2 has more h.p. and torque?

[@cottonharvester7356]

360ModsandHacks Yeah but homosexuals drive Fords

[@tristonlumley1791]

At 13:37, on the dash of the vehicle it reads 7 mpg. This truck was designed to get max fuel economy without giving up its towing capacity. This truck is clearly the best of the 3 due to this factor. You are given the option to manually control your transmission to get where your going faster or allow your 2014 Chevrolet Silverado allow you to get the best of both worlds. Chevy all the way.

[@UltimateCARNUT]

Frankly I would rather have the titan from those three.... I know im in the minority but as the cheapest, and most offroad capable its the most honest truck.

[@Asalent]

I'll take the Silverado.

[@manrightchea]

Ford for me.

[@Artchred]

Ya but not American designed.

[@JeepCherokeeful]

FYI FLT, non emergency stopping on a roadway is dangerous and illegal. Also, tongue weight can be between 5-15% according to U-Haul, for example. Ram sold about 163,000 1/2 ton units vs 18,000 for the Titan. The Ram 1500 needed to be included in this test. Titan was just a place holder! Yes, Chevy needs an 8 speed!

[@raulperez4154]

That sucks for GM. They still can't beat Ford. And who cares about fuel economy when you can afford a 50k dollar truck and use it for towing

[@anthonymacneil2279]

Who says a wheezing huffing bent 6 that sound's like a stomping on a hornet's nest has anything worth talking about.

[@BlazeSEGA]

Ford has to bring back their v8's. These turbo v6's sound like crap. That Silverado 6.2L sounds intoxicating!

[@stevengrey1948]

As a ford owner I find the braking performance of this truck impressive. This was the same result with the Ike Gauntlet 1.0 test. Its a shame the ford was not in tow haul mode. It would have been interesting to compare. Its funny because Ford use to advertise their braking performance. I remember that crazy commercial of them stopping a C-130 by throwing a F150 out the back and stopping the plane and truck with their brakes. What is chevy doing to get that braking performance, or is it just a configuration issue by the reviewers. I dont know about you, I rather have more whoa than go.

[@bahamatodd]

The Chevy was using engine braking - not the actual brakes.

[@MrMesluk]

Why didn't they how the F150 FX4 6.2L? What a pointless test, I bet Chevy footed the bill too.

[@seanmulhollen9833]

agreed. Why the hell are they going to make a V6 ECOBOOST haul 10,000 pounds?? the video is pointless. FORD NATION

[@lucasalamo7888]

You do realize that these trucks are PROVIDED to them right. Nobody pays anyone since the manufacturers gave them this vehicles to test either for short or long term tests and after that they have to return them to the manufacturers. There is no conspiracy here kids so move along.

[@splewy]

The 6.2L F-150 would have done worse than the Ecoboost. Its max configurable tow ratings are no higher than Ecoboost models. It may make slightly more peak torque than the EB, but it has less low end torque. It's also naturally aspirated, so it would have suffered in the high altitude. The 6.2L is a novelty engine for buyers who just want a cool sound and displacement bragging rights. The Ecoboost is the engine of choice for people who actually want to to and haul things.

[@edace1231]

ECOBEAST KEEPS DOMINATING! #PROUD

[@RuelSpot]

The 2014 Chevrolet Silverado sure looks good… #ChevySilverado

[@Zach4lakers3221]

Breaking news!! Massive party thrown in Dearborn, Michigan! FORD. I can't believe the silver ado didn't win. I'd like to see these trucks dynoed at that altitude, to see what kind of power they were actually making.. Awesome videos guys. Keep up the good work. Props to Ford, and GM. With better trans mapping, I think it'd be a different story but the ecoboost is still a beast!

[@SirtubalotTX]

I'm half asleep and will probably have to watch this again but bottom line.. it appears that the Ford was best at maintaining 60 mph up this incline.. without downshifting..impressive. (Sans one instance) I was a little surprised at the Silverado having to downshift to 2nd as much as it did but don't want to pass judgement until I study the gear ratios a little more closely. In a situation like that, I would have just manually put it in 2nd and left it there for the remainder of the incline but to be honest? I really prefer to have my rpms down on inclines.. aka Diesel style. When towing, power curve is important kiddies and this is where the Ecoboost really shines. I'm not sure what kind of overhead the little 3.5 has in it but it will be interesting if/when Ford decides to squeeze more power and torque out of this thing. I for one wouldn't complain. As far as the grade braking on the Ford? I'm not giving this test much salt for that for very obvious reasons.

[@SirtubalotTX]

***** Not a bad point but I'm pretty sure shift points aren't the main issue here with the Silverado as it was not able to maintain the desired speed in 3rd gear in this scenario. Could a shorter gear in the rear help the Silverado with a 3rd gear pull at that speed? you bet but it would mean higher rpms and reduced gas mileage/efficiency. More gears would definitely help too of course but ultimately, torque at lower rpms is key when towing. HP is important as well but can be irritating when towing if you have to wind everything out on a long incline to get to those numbers... no matter what or how many gears you have. You also have to keep in mind that situations like these are somewhat of a rarity but that can also vary depending on the area you live in and mainly drive. Bottom line? it's difficult to produce the torque curve the Ecoboost has without forced induction and it's even cooler to see Ford doing it with a gas engine with the intended purpose of towing. The 6.2 liter is a great engine so no hate there but the proof is in the pudding. Will see how things pan out in the future with the supposed 9 and 10 speed transmissions that Ford and GM are working on.

[@manrightchea]

Agreed overall. I'm sure the Silverado is a good truck but it seems the PCM could use some improvements from Chevy. It doesn't seem to be lacking in power but the biggest issue is that it seem to make its torque hell high in the powerband. Its either gear hunt like the tranny did in automatic, or hold the thing in gear in manual mode and have your motor scream along at 4100 rpms which is just not good for long term durability. Overall, I like you would take the Ford. That being said, I would have liked to see a RAM 1500 take on this test too, though I would honestly never buy one. My dad had some bad experiences with his RAM back in the day and that has always stuck with me even decades later. I just don't trust Chrysler trucks anymore. Too bad you can't get the Cummins a competing truck.

[@SirtubalotTX]

manrightchea I took a closer look at things and here's the skinny: The Ecoboost is making 365 horses at 5000 rpm and a 420 ft/lbs torque peak at a very low ~2500 rpm~. (Key here) The 6.2 in the GM is making 55 more horses at 5600 rpm and 40 more ft/lbs of torque peaking at a rather lofty 4100 rpm. As you can see, it's the power curve that's hurting the 6.2. I haven't seen a dyno chart for the 6.2 but the little 3.5 just pummels the big V8 at 2500 rpm... a very advantageous rpm for a torque peak when you are towing. The fact that the Ecoboost has it's horsepower peak 600 rpm lower doesn't hurt things either. Bottom line.. the 6.2 is obviously 'more powerful' but it looses in the power curve department. Unless GM can figure out a way to get that torque peak down lower I don't think gearing or PCM changes are going to help much in the context we are speaking of. At any rate and like I was saying earlier.. boost on any engine is a good thing when towing (If it's reliable) and Ford is on to something here. I would like to see them engineer the 3.5 to be stronger and turn up the boost for higher numbers. (400+ horses and maybe 500 torque) If they did, it would probably crush everything else out there. By the way and not to get into too many details.. it's more difficult to engineer a boosted gas engine for towing than it is to do so with a diesel... and that is mostly because of the fuel characteristics of gas vs diesel.

[@Luther1543]

that ford has attractive headlights and is formed straight, incredible how the much smaller engine has more power with the turbos and it will be much fun to drive similar to a sportscar when it responds much quicker to the pedal. i would like the f-150 with the aluminium alloy body with a closed back as a RV (with a full size normal bed in it, a shower and a small kitchen).

[@IngramGordon]

I await when this test is done again with the Titan 5.0 V8 diesel and Ram 3.0 V6 diesel. Great video otherwise guys. Kinda dusappointed in the Chevy though

[@IngramGordon]

jejeosborne Good point, but for someone who might be looking at fuel economy as much as towing capacity, it makes for a good mix.

[@iamnucleus]

First of all the Chevy did not truly have the coolest breaking!!! Did you guys forget the driver of of the Ford forgot to turn on the tow mode until partially into the Gaunlet, therefore the engine breaking was not engaged before the temp reading. So who knows what the Ford's temp would have been.

[@arkhsm]

Crack's me up that he had to keep pulling pedal on the FORD, to slow it down !! Meanwhile, in Super Chevy land, 460 lbs of torque kept diss-apearing somewhere, haha !!! ANY ONE who thinks the Chev's all that, must like GUTLESS !!

[@anthonymacneil2279]

Who says a wheezing huffing bent six that's sounds like stomping on a hornet's nest is all that I don't.

[@catfishmudflap]

Nice picture of the team at the end of your video. Looking forward to more trucks.

[@chriskeiley5343]

this video and most of the comments show how dumbed down americans are. horse power wins cars shows, torque wins races. if your all that worried about brake temp put son better brakes. can't beat a good strong torquey motor. the makers of this little vieo are very biased towards chevy. perhaps a paid off sails pitch. for wins every time first time. no need to warm the fords up or make a second pass. just get in and go, that is how our society functions and honestly any other test is seen as biased. however most newer trucks have an auto start so if you want to play that warm up game lets just do the fair and honest warmup test on a cold day... or no warm up, truth is ford will win every time. look at who is number one with the ecoboost prototype at daytona. look who took the least bail out money. yes sir ford is number one for a reason, best in sale for 2013 also for a reason with an increase of 3%

[@arnoldtx100]

The only way you can buy the 6.2 is on the LTZ the most expensive truck. It is not available on the cheaper trucks? The Ecoboost can be had on all the Ford trucks..

[@aj06bolt12r]

Ecoboost waxed that ass! No contest!

[@chadsteele1]

Eco junk. It's either eco or Boost. Pure garbage made by ford sold to suckers

[@Skankhunt98745]

aj06bolt12r the ecoboost is a shit motor, the Silverado has something for will never have and that’s called reliability

[@JayandJenn07]

@ 12:00 No, I disagree. GM has been known to program their shift points to optimize the best fuel economy regardless of performance due to EPA. As a programmer, this is the number one problem with all GM vehicles with auto transmissions. Turning off traction control and stabilitrack helps reduce this. But come on guys, if your going to tow anything over 2,500 lbs, don't allow the trans to shift into overdrive... Common sense.

[@noblekitty]

Are you saying that the Silverado will need an after market tuner to compete squarely with the Titan and F150? I believe this is a test. It is best and only fair to treat all contestants with the same manners. All the other trucks transmission was left in auto mode, why not the Silverado as well?

[@Misnjef]

Ok seriously Chevy assumes you know how to drive a truck and keep it out of the high gear going up the hill.

[@Patchuchan]

You never use the overdrive while towing when climbing a grade like that. It'll burn up the transmission in nothing flat.

[@MrNicholg]

If ever there were a case for a hybrid, this is it. Gm used to build one too. Off throttle regen and helper motor torque. No brainer.

[@cavscout62]

I notice that the F150 6.2L was missing. Hmm, wonder why Government Motors HAS to run their truck against a V-6 FORD truck? Oh, that's right, so it might have a chance of winning. ONCE. ROTFLMFAO@ GM!!!!!

[@REGAN3521]

Ford does advertise it as a 6.2L replacement, the 6.2L Ford tow the same as the 3.5 Ecoboost just uses a lot more fuel doing it.

[@Artchred]

What kevin said

[@Mathicuss]

You must feel proud of that comment dont you...

[@johnsablan9649]

@cavscout62, you're an idiot!

[@ridgeline006]

well we know when towing its not about speed its mpg and having good towing balance and brakes

[@DavidStanleymusic]

F150 ford is as much a gas guzzler as the v8 Titan !

[@mhtl48]

+David Stanley In the Motor Trend 0-60 test of the Titan XD with 11.600 lbs trailer it accomplished 23.9 secs in 1/4 mile while the 6.2 GM towing a 9,100 lbs did it in 20.3 secs... Extrapolate that result over 8 miles and the XD will crush the 6.2.

[@jeffhorton8737]

he is right i own a f150 5.4 v8 & it gets 10mpg im considering the 2014 silverado looks way better

[@DavidStanleymusic]

mhtl48 unfortunately Nissan is crap you will always see rust streaks from non stainless steel hardware on 5 yr old + vehicles from Nissan no stainless steel exhaust system all adds up to junk

[@roy.mclean]

+David Stanley There's nothing eco about eco-boost. The turbo helps acceleration, but sucks up gas as well. It evens out. If you keep it at 45 it will get almost 30 mpg, but at speed, it's about 18.

[@stephenmontgomery6043]

David Stanley no its not I own one . 157 wb 3.5 ecoboost 373's 18-21 mpg empty 10-12 mpg loaded 8k trailer, 540 ft lbs torque and I dont baby the throttle .

[@lucasalamo7888]

To be honest I thought the Silverado was going to run the Gauntlet in around 7:55 but the very second I heard the engine bog down so bad and lose speed I knew the chances of that happening went down the tube.. Now I was very impressed with how well the transmission did all the braking on the downhill. And Nathan's beef with the 4WD knob is very valid as well, why on earth did GM placed the knob so close to the headlights and why they made them so identical in shape? Great work TFL Truck, keep it up and don't let the fanboys get to you.

[@kstet9]

Its a turbo charged engine vs naturally aspirated at high altitude its not really a fair comparison

[@1987liftedbronco]

Also a v6 vs v8's js

[@HOWNDOG66]

......and 3.5L vs 6.2L is?

[@zubEjankins]

That's the whole point. The v6 with the turbo will make the same power as a NA v8 yet will do better while in higher altitudes. A better test would be the Ford NA v8 vs the Chevy, but oh well. If I'm going to be towing, I doubt I'd be racing anyone, so I'd stick with the Chevy. Of course I have no money, so I'd be happy driving either lol

[@sleekf1503]

Just by putting a ford alone in the test is not a fair comparison. They always have the best truck

[@Masterman5010]

If I were going to tow a trailer up hill, I would go for the Eco boost because it has the twin turbo to it's advantage and get better power going uphill

[@samcwach4475]

chevy kicks ass

[@foolongtea]

***** Didn't Ford just recall thier new F150s for engine fires? Recalls are becoming more and more common place, ragardles of make or country of origin. This just leads me to believe that either quality control isn't what it used to be, or manufacturers are getting better at noticing issues before they become major problems. It's good to see though as it means something is being done and we the consumers are being taken care of.

[@irishsavage8715]

2nd place is the first looser

[@Huey3384]

Awesome videos guys!!! I have really enjoyed seeing some real world testing on these trucks.Ford turbos are awesome at altitude. Chevy braking "WOW!!" I have never had a truck that did not heat up the brakes on that kind of down hill grade. I can't wait to see how the Ram Eco-Diesel does. Again great videos. Keep them coming.