Breaking News: Toyota Will Replace Over 100,000 Tundra & Lexus Engines For These Model Years!

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#toyota #tundra #recall

[@NoToBigBro]

I can't think of a single person who would turn down a brand new engine over a flawed engine.

[@LK-bz9sk]

A band new engine that is also flawed or messed up upon installation at the dealership. At some point its just jump ship and stop bailing water with Toyota

[@robertyoung8289]

1-800-Nissan problem solved.

[@robertyoung8289]

Not one word about the new engine being updated in anyway.

[@jonathanratliff4780]

@@robertyoung8289 Do you think they’re going to spend a half $1 billion on engines that are built the same? I mean that’s so ridiculous that I feel stupid for even asking it

[@robertyoung8289]

@@jonathanratliff4780 Did you ever think Toyota would build a POS engine in the first place? Its not such a stretch. They have lost a ton of credibility.

[@aborkmga1]

Imagine having 2022 tundra with over 100k mile and you get new engine for free some people are really lucky

[@JoshuaOverman]

If my engine was fine I would hate to have to get a new one and let irresponsible people at the dealer touch my truck and mess more stuff up and install it wrong.

[@RedWingsninetyone]

​@@JoshuaOvermanyou aren't required to get it if you don't want to.

[@gpaje]

I don't think you get a an engine automatically. Only if there is an issue.

[@302Mustang13]

That's a ton of miles for a 2022. My vehicle has half that amount of miles and twice as old.

[@RedWingsninetyone]

@@gpaje it's a recall. Not the same as a warranty claim

[@Cbarrett94]

I’m a Toyota technician. I literally jumped for joy when I read the update sent to us. This is the best, most expedient way to minimize come-backs, and quickly fix the issue. Good on Toyota for taking their lumps and coming up with a quality solution!

[@TermlessHGW]

If I buy any truck, let alone Toyota for around 60k USD and after a year or not I need a new engine I'm out the front door for good.

[@AuralioCabal-nl8gi]

Good for you less worries and less scraped knuckles!

[@saveusall6915]

Is Toyota paying yall full labor time for the engine replacements? How does Toyota do warranty work for technicians?

[@Overlandjon]

I could only imagine you guys having to “rebuild” engines. That would be awful for both you and and the consumer. Glad that it sounds like they will be shipping crate style engines ready for install.

[@OneManOnFire]

Probably pays like 1 hour for warranty work

[@williamkrusniak5677]

I own a 22 Tundra. It's been a great truck. When I purchased it, I planned on having it for many years. When the announcement was made back in May, I was rethinking of keeping it. Now, with the news that Toyota is willing to put in a new engine, I would keep the truck.

[@JoshuaOverman]

I don’t think Toyotas goal was to make worse quality vehicles I think it’s just a mistake with the new design and I think they will make it right correct it and then new tundras soon shouldn’t be failing.

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@JoshuaOvermanThere’s been a lot more issues than just the motor but this has overshadowed most of the other issues for the last year or more because it’s been so widespread.

[@gonzaloquinones5388]

​@@Jay-me7gwnot really the engine failer has been the main issue there haven't been other complaints on tundras.

[@mikefortunato9800]

Have you seen what’s involved?

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@gonzaloquinones5388 yes there absolutely have been. Bad wind noise due to seals, seat panels breaking, axle bolts letting the axle fall out, electrical issues with the hybrid. Oh and the fuel line recall that they still don’t have parts for to fix that can light the truck on fire. The Tundra got rated the worst on consumer reports behind every other half ton

[@thegreeneyej]

Good for Toyota. That’s how you fix a f$ck up. Take ownership and fix it.

[@dpl2617]

Lol... only after they lied about it, and couldn't sell them.

[@philhenderson3516]

@@dpl2617 People were warned about this engine well before it made it to the Tundra and nobody listened bc TOYOTA! Yet here we are...

[@kaseyc5078]

@@dpl2617 their sales number on Tundra are higher than ever actually

[@kidamere2408]

Ha you did no research at all did ya

[@ebnhahn1993]

If this was FORD, Your comment will definitely have a negative and critical tone!!!!

[@Joystickoperator]

This is what needed to happen to restore faith. And also not kill the techs . Good call Toyota

[@ebnhahn1993]

It it was FORd, you will be ditching FORD and calling thier products garbage....

[@trumpet12345]

​​@@ebnhahn1993likely, I'd say you are likely correct

[@302Mustang13]

@@ebnhahn1993 You are 100% correct. Ford would be getting reamed online by fanboys of other brands while Toyota gets praise. What a weird way to think.

[@Joystickoperator]

@@ebnhahn1993 it should have never happened in the first place from any brand

[@spazzman90]

@@ebnhahn1993 Ford wouldn't replace an engine. Just a couple parts to get it past warranty.

[@davidsanders451]

What’s crazy? Is my dad is friends with a direct designer of the engine and noted problems in it’s development that were still never corrected. Apparently, even employees complained about milling problems, and other nuances that continue to fall on deaf ears.

[@lvsqcsl]

Bingo! The same thing happened at GM when the ignition switches would suddenly turn off. Management was told of the issue and did nothing.

[@The11eleven]

I bet the sound of a couple billion dollars rings LOUD and clear

[@actionjackson5086]

This doesn't sound very Japanese. This sounds extremely american.

[@TLavery707]

This engine failure happened to my coworker about a month ago. He was towing a trailer out of state and the engine lost oil pressure and died. Toyota was replacing his engine in the truck and gave him a loaner truck to get home with his trailer.

[@BikeisDusty]

At least $1B will be claimed. Saw a mechanic channel say that failures he saw were main bearing failures. Trash circulating in rest of engine which would cause random bearnings to fail, like cam bearings. He also said that mains bearing part numbers changed, but not all caps. Implies that there is product fault. The engine swap is the best result. Now if other auto manufacturers would do that level of warranty for the DFM lifter failures.

[@TDub_ADV]

They will if its warranted. I had a lifter failure on a 6.2l that caused a bent valve and a hole in a piston and they put a complete new motor in. The problem with GM is they have not learned from their mistakes and they keep putting in the same failure prone lifters in year after year since 2007, they also doubled down put double the amount of the failure prone lifters in and rebranded from AFM to DFM it in 2019.

[@timkinley1779]

​@TDub_ADV GM and the failed transmissions. I know seven people with the K-series truck/SUV. Each one over 70k miles has had the trans replaced.

[@pcihector]

Car Care Nut channel. One specific detail was that the parts catalog showed an end date of availability of one of the main bearings I believe (at video recording) but no superceded part number available.

[@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806]

They SELL THOUSANDS of trucks every year...the odds of failure ARE NOT 10% LIKE YOU think it is... Also the issue can be mitigated with proper oil changes....

[@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806]

I am sure GMC/CHEVROLET can replace every single engine for potential failure, but it is SIMPLY unfeasible for them to do so, because of the sheer amount of money involved and heavy fines from the EPA... Toyota can do it because they DO NOT sell the Tundra in high numbers over the competition, NOR do they sell it in the Middle East....

[@osmos3]

Until today, I wanted to replace my '16 Taco with a Tundra. It's good that Toyota backs their product however I would expect better for what they charge.

[@MaximillionBucks]

Keep the taco. N/A reliability really can't be beat

[@BPJac]

It is not like the other brands are any cheaper.

[@pjbuckmaster]

Who wants to have an engine torn out of their truck and replaced. The dealerships are going to mess this up and then ur going to have all kinds of problems from things that are missed during the installation process.

[@mikefoehr235]

Very real. Smart people will get the CAR CARE NUT to do the work. He is OCD and ANAL about proper repairs

[@illumination357]

“ToYoTa ReLiAbiLiTy” 😂

[@arrdubu]

Glad Toyota is doing the recall. Also glad I went with the '22 Coyote so I don't have to deal with it. Wish Ford would stand behind their products like Toyota though.

[@Pilot545]

I’ve NEVER had any issue with Ford standing by any of their stuff. Includes replacing an engine in my F-150. They didn’t even bat an eye. Never questioned me. I even had a tune on it. So, not sure what you’re talking about. Hasn’t been my experience at all.

[@DavidFoundCo]

@@Pilot545How much are they paying you for all that non sense?

[@vettle1]

Ford does replace long blocks when necessary from what I've seen online, Toyota only did short blocks​@@DavidFoundCo

[@Jay-me7gw]

The only reason Toyota was so quick on the draw here is because it’s a SAFETY RECALL. That is 100% why the Hybrid Tundras and Sequoias were not part of it. The gas engines lose powersteering and brake assist when your engine seizes at 80 mph on the freeway, hybrids still have both because they are designed to operate electric only. What hasn’t ford stood behind btw?

[@cwqrpportable]

@@DavidFoundCoIn 45 yrs of leasing and buying Fords I’ve not had any problems with service. Tell us more about the “nonsense”. All ears…

[@ryanmartinage]

RIP Toyota Service Techs...

[@gpaje]

@@ryanmartinage better than what they have been doing, putting together small blocks, having a complete engine replacement is actually pretty easy then what they are doing. Plenty of engines with no issues, it's not like they have to do a 100,000 engines all at once, likely spread out for years.

[@fidelreyes5086]

Highly doubt the dealer will be installing long blocks!

[@octoslut]

@@fidelreyes5086 these are not long blocks fidel.

[@ReinhardSchuster]

Just think about rebuilding versus swapping an engine. At 102,000 affected engines that's at least 600,000 man hours less work. Do they have enough qualified technicians to rebuild 102,000 engines?

[@joshelkins6189]

It’s not the dealers choice and yes we are replacing long blocks!

[@stephenwright133]

I have a 23 Tundra that is part of this recall. I’m glad Toyota is doing the right thing. I know it will take time to get these engines replaced. Hopefully I won’t have an issue before that happens. This move does give me more confidence in the Toyota brand.

[@chrisokeeffe7624]

The best solution would be to put the 5.7 v8 back in the trucks.

[@gpaje]

Toyota would cancel the Tundra program before they would put a V8 back in it. The cost involved re-engineered along with the hit from the EPA with non-complaint enginies, which is the reason why they went with a V6. Though I'm sure you meant that rhetorically.

[@OneNationUnderGod.]

Exactly, even these replacement engines will never have the longevity of the previous V8 engine.

[@gpaje]

@@OneNationUnderGod. How long do you think they'll last compared to the competition's V8s? Though the Ram 1500 no longer have the V8, that leaves the Coyote and GM small blocks.

[@OneNationUnderGod.]

@@gpaje now that GM dumped their displacement on demand they will have the best reliability. I have seen older 5.3 and 6.2 GM engines with +300k miles still going strong. Cylinder deactivation is what killed the newer GM V8

[@gpaje]

​@@OneNationUnderGod.Their next gen V8s come out in 2028 and will likely come with cylinder deactivation. But agree GM will be the most dominant full size.

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[@joshracer5134]

I like how you think Toyota "chose" to do the right thing. The NHTSA is forcing them to fix it because it's a safety concern. The thing Toyota is choosing to do is replace the engine instead of rebuild which is honestly probably cheaper.

[@khonjel_singh]

He's right though. If you read the paper trail of articles, Toyota contacted NHTSA themselves not the other way around like for example: Ford.

[@joshracer5134]

@@khonjel_singh again while this may be true, I am not sure because I didn't look into it. "Manufacturers are required to submit certain information to NHTSA related to vehicle safety issues and recalls." This is from the NHTSA website.

[@stratochief99]

They will be required by NHTSA to provide a fix. That doesn’t mean they have to replace the entire engine, yet that is what they are choosing to do. That’s where Toyota deserves props for doing the thing right. They could have just rebuilt the short block and satisfied the government. That would ruin their reputation.

[@joshracer5134]

@@stratochief99 again that's what I said in my original comment. But I highly doubt they are doing it because it's the right thing to do... I am betting that the cost analysis shows it being cheaper to just replace it

[@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806]

GmC / Chevrolet are replacing defective 6.2 engines as well...would NOT be surprised if they continue to replace engines of MY24s...as well.

[@samhill3496]

That truck has to be totally took apart, who says it will be put back right. Sure they will have trained teams. 2000 per state avg. Hell that's a lot. Hybirds will have to be included.

[@mikefoehr235]

Those damn hybirds

[@markderoller7645]

How much will it cost Toyota to replace an engine? Multiply that by 100K. $1.5B, $2B? That's huge.

[@angrychilimango630]

They got the money

[@JH-mx4yc]

Probably $20k with labor , so yea 2e9 which is 2 billion?

[@marcelo403polo2]

@@angrychilimango630 $241.5B debt

[@frenchonion4595]

@@marcelo403polo2 It really surprised me that Toyota was that much in debt

[@tinhinnh]

expect an increase in car/truck prices in the future 😊

[@E_S_KZ]

Land Cruiser 300 (made in Japan) has the same problem here in Kazakhstan. But Toyota recalls it for engine repairs; they don’t want to change the engine. I don’t want to keep it and try to sell it back to Toyota.

[@arsyadidris6349]

Could be a logistic issue… not looking down on ur country here my guy, but the US has far more vehicles using these engine, and added to the fact that those V6s are built in the US. Yeah, ur landcruiser is made in japan, but the factory that build those engine blocks is in the US. So anyways, toyota is fixing its biggest market with engine replacement for these V6 first, n then hopefully it will trickle to the smaller markets. Im malaysian btw, and we are also right now recieving these new LC300’s. The LC300 is essentially a $200,000 luxury SUV here in malaysia, so theres not very many around.

[@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806]

How will these twin turbo engine perform at a million kms? These are NOT as simple as the 1GR FE.....If I was forced into one , I will buy the 1GR FE ONLY...

[@arsyadidris6349]

@@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806 i know theyre both V6 engines, but theyre not for the same vehicle. I mean, they wanted to replace the V8 with this V35A. Im just perplexed why they didnt go for an inline6. Coz its too long? Come on… theyre putting it in a fullsize truck chassis. Engine length isnt too much of a concern.

[@johndelossantos1572]

Saw lots of Toyotas in my time in Kazakhstan! Astana and Almaty.

[@seanpizzo8256]

I havent seen this many Tundras sitting in Toyota lots in many years.

[@MarkA500]

Yet they’re breaking sales records

[@angelgjr1999]

My local Toyota has full lot of tundras. lol

[@RedWingsninetyone]

Best sales year since their #1 year of 2007

[@Billybob50119]

@@RedWingsninetyone not hard to do when they have never sold many Tundras to begin with

[@RedWingsninetyone]

@@Billybob50119 in all fairness, they don't have the fleet sales that the Big 3 do. They also don't offer a 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck which the others factor into their sales figures. Meanwhile the other 3 can't touch Toyota in the midsize market.

[@Strunz0]

They should have simulated 150,000 miles on this new engine, torture tested it with all kinds of ludicrous "work" like dragging trees out of the forest and pulling a bunch of way over GVWR trailers and payloads, then slapped that engine into a trophy truck to run and complete the Baja 1,000.... then maybe at the end disassembled the engine in front of a live audience to see how the engine held up to everything. Oh, wait...

[@gpaje]

That wasn't the problem. It was the production process that was the issue, leaving dirty blocks that damaged the bearings was the issue. You could tested for a million miles, doesn't matter if the production process was flawed.

[@Strunz0]

@gpaje Toyota, the pioneer of manufacturing processes that are considered the gold standard in production philosophies in companies all around the world, failed at its most basic principal of 5S? I'm going to continue to doubt that conclusion or the company narrative. All machined parts will have some level of debris left over and that is usually mitigated by either a break-in period (small engines, very short first oil change interval) or captured through a standard oil filter or magnetic pickups. It has to be a design flaw that allows the debris to circulate and create problems in other areas of the engine.

[@khurijj1]

Agree. If Toyota torture tested an engine off the production line that was built using the manufacturing process and procedures used in the recall lot they would have caught the problem in the factory and not in the field. This is a major blow to their reputation.

[@redcelicatrd]

@@khurijj1 Not necessarily. Less than 1% of trucks have had a failure, so there would have been less than a 1% chance of getting a bad engine during testing.

[@jeffjones4667]

I just got my 2022 Tundra back 2 weeks ago after a main bearing failure. My engine was rebuit, not replaced. Obviously, I would prefer a new long block (replacement). Am i stuck with this rebuit engine now? I want a replacement, or an extension of my warranty for piece of mind. Will I have any recourse? If not , I have concerns about the long term reliability of my truck. The dealer was honest and said this was only the second rebuid of this engine they have ever done, which makes me very nervous...

[@dpl2617]

Your screwed, stuck with scrap. People should pay more attention before buying!!

[@sk-un5jq]

You aint gettin a new engine thats for sure

[@toddrodgers908]

@jeffjones4667 you should get a new engine. No exceptions!!! The recall should overcome your warranty rebuild. If it doesn't I'd never buy from Toyota again. I just had a recall on my 2014 Ford F150. I bought it used from a Nissan dealership. But I had the recall done at a local Ford dealership free of charge. I would think you can take your Toyota to any Toyota dealership to have the new engine recall performed. It wouldn't make sense to leave you out just because they rebuild your engine. But I could be very wrong. I would also think your not the only person that's had their Toyota engine rebuilt. The recall should take care of everyone in this position. If not shame on Toyota. Best regards to you and your family.

[@ajm2193]

I was an auto tech for 25 years and also worked for Toyota for 4 of those years and since they have said they will replace the complete engine on this recall then that is what you should get. When your repair was done it may have been before the final decision to replace the engine. I did a lot of engine and transmission recalls and always felt Toyota always took care of their customers but do your research contact the service manager and the regional manager, the squeaky wheel always gets the grease. Good luck and you should get a recall notice too even though you had the engine repaired, engine replacement is the correct fix

[@two_toned_rooster]

That’s the best way to fix it. Instead of a bandaid and then the truck has a weakness forever you just replace the whole engine. Still sucks to have your whole truck torn apart for it, and that will lead to issues on its own, but I’d rather have a new engine that I don’t have to worry about running.

[@rmalmeida1976]

Good start. Now they just need to significantly lower their obnoxiously high MSRPs.

[@GeographyNerd48]

I don't want any vehicle that they replaced the engine. They will absolutely break every clip and connector for every wire.

[@RedEye_Andy]

I have a ‘22 Tundra Platinum and it’s my 3rd Toyota. I have been happy with my previous vehicles. However, this one has been a total disappointment, especially on build quality. I’ll go through with it because I figured it’ll be a peace of mind when I’m on far road trips. But it’ll be interesting to know what replacing an engine would do to the value of these trucks.

[@itayrozenstein6989]

I am an owner of 2022 Toyota Tundra with 55,000 miles, no issues whatsoever I've done my oil change every 5,000 miles, did my spark plugs at 40,000 miles according to the owner's manual, did my rotors and brake pads at 48,000 miles, I'll definitely get the engine swap even though I don't have any issues yet at 55,000 miles

[@dpl2617]

Lol... You overpaid for a worthless truck.

[@Jh20-]

​@@dpl2617 what a smart comment.....😂

[@MSRC55]

@@dpl2617guy got 55k free miles what shape is your head?

[@dpl2617]

@MSRC55 Yeah ok 😆 If he keeps it for 20 years maybe worth it. Otherwise these trucks may as well have salvage titles !

[@Sackmatters]

You shouldn’t have to worry about a single thing until 200k miles. It’s disgraceful what Toyota is doing. I’ll probably never get rid of my 2016 Tacoma after this who debacle.

[@mtnboy95338]

Kudos to Toyota for standing up to the plate and doing the right thing. Unlike some others that try to get by with a software update. 👍👍

[@karlschauff7989]

You mean like the 4th gen Tacoma with weak drivetrain components that's getting a software update to protect if from tearing itself apart?

[@mtnboy95338]

@@karlschauff7989 Not to mention other carmakers in general

[@anshulp8033]

What about QC issues with engine replacement at dealers ?

[@DaveSoCal]

The his is just a news release. The “preliminary” notice that the customers will receive will have more info and the actual recall notice maybe more. Those notices will have reimbursement repair and hotel/rental details just like they always do. We replaced the whole TacoTundra frames so engine swap shouldn’t be much harder.

[@EngineerSaysWhat]

I had an engine recall on my Subaru some years back which required them to remove the engine and tear it apart to get to some springs. I had approximately 65,000 miles on the car at the time. As a result of having to remove the engine they had to replace the belts, coolant, refrigerant, and oil. I paid parts for the spark plugs and they put those in, too, since they needed to be removed to check compression on the cylinders. It was a major overall to the engine. Plus I got a free loaner for the week while they did the work. Definitely worth it.

[@krassimirpetrov7131]

My 4.7 just breaking in with 250k miles ! Let’s see the turbo do that

[@JDC129]

@@krassimirpetrov7131 The 4.7 was probably one the most reliable engines ever mass produced. You still see early 2000s engines running around today with 200-300k miles on them.

[@maxcaz17]

My 4.7 at 280k and going strong.

[@richardoaks3597]

This was the right outcome. I think it should leave the value in tact or increase because someone who buys one of these trucks used with the new engine can see when it was installed and see they’re getting a newer engine.

[@Cloud30000]

This is the only way to appropriately make whole the current owners of the Tundra, but it depends on them having addressed the issue in the replacement engine so there is no risk of it happening to them.

[@shitloveaduck]

They have. In fact as the time passes they already have fixed it in the full manufacturing process. They identify the issue and resolved it. The trucks coming off the line now and for the past couple of months (maybe longer) are not part of this recall.

[@unikornkontroller]

It's great they're doing something but I don't know if this makes me trust their reliability. A simple thing like machining debris is crazy. If they aren't watching out for that then what else is slipping through the QC cracks?

[@deadswarmaking1135]

For everyone who continues to believe it is not a design flaw but a quality control issue or manufacturing issue...Good luck in life. For those of you applauding Toyotas commitment to fixing their eff up by replacing all of these engines with brand new ones...What other choice did they have other than producing an engine without catastrophic flaws in the first place. For those of you excited about the receipt of a new engine...Your truck will never be same. An engine swap on these vehicles is not a quick and easy process. The value of every one of the affected vehicles will also be negatively affected.

[@stringbladestudios]

I don’t understand the question. It’s too obvious to me that the smart thing is to replace the ticking time bomb. Everyone is gonna know that the situation about these so I don’t think secondary markets would suffer at all for a replaced engine. The contrary would probably be true, if you knew you were buying this truck used and the engine wasn’t replaced would you still take the chance? Not me.

[@louisstennes3]

A few things. It is the honorable thing to do from Toyota. Now some worries. If you go to a Toyota dealer (My wife has a RAV4 hybrid) so I take it in. I don't know how many techs are at a typical dealership depending on size but not all the techs would do this type of work. Second, I read where to replace the engine on this truck they remove the body. If this is true what are the chances you get a truck back absent rattles and squeaks even if you have the best tech in the world. Let's say they can do it without the body off, you still have to connect, disconnect turbos, connectors, A/C units, etc., etc. A complicated task. This would have been my solution if I was Toyota. Offer to buy the truck back for a new '24 similar model at 0% financing or a cash buyout if the owner prefers that. Owners who want to keep their trucks but the truck is running fine, give them a 150-,000 mile no cost warranty provided all service records are kept and no deductibles. Just my take and I bet my solution is cheaper than replacing 100,000 engines and as an owner I would prefer this. This solution puts me in the driver's seat so to speak. If Toyota does a buyout they at their option can replace the engine and have the dealer resell it as used and let the dealer pay a fair price to Toyota for the truck.

[@mkat740]

I am in yonkers ny I heard the lifter tick in my suburban 6.2 and I recorded it. when beck said they dont hear it I said I hear it everyday the first start tick intermittent. I was in last 4 months of 5 yr 60,000 miles so its free letters etc... I also had the extended gm warranty. there saying there going to cover my 2 week rental expense.

[@gzig8]

I have a ‘22 Tundra, spun the main bearing at 34k miles. Got full bottom end at no cost. It was in the shop being worked on before this recall came out (~1 month ago picked it up from the bottom end/block replacement), will the new engine still be viable for someone in my situation?

[@ajm2193]

Yes I worked for Toyota as a tech you should get what the recall says even though you had it repaired, you should get a recall notice if your vehicle is part of the recall

[@rcajavus8141]

new bottom but shavings still in engine oil routes and heads...

[@1stnamebunchofnumbers]

My 3rd gen isn’t in the recall and has 23k on it with zero issues but huge props to Toyota for handling this right. No rebuilt short blocks or anything. New engine. That’s what they should do.

[@risinbison1106]

I owned a 2000 Tacoma and Toyota replaced my entire frame with 200k miles. Now they’ll replace my Tundra engine with 76k miles on it. I will never own another brand other than Toyota.

[@actionjackson5086]

Gotta ask... why did they replace the frame on your tacoma? And how did you you get them to do it with 200k miles?

[@risinbison1106]

@@actionjackson5086 I lived in a northern climate and road salt is applied nearly everyday in winter. My frame was pretty rusty, not like disintegration but had I done nothing, it would have been a goner. Toyota did a recall on Tacoma frames due to rusting problems so I went to the dealership not expecting anything because of high miles. My jaw hit the floor when the service manager said they were replacing my entire frame and tossed me a set of keys to a loaner vehicle. I gave that truck to my nephew which he drove through college and finally retired it at 600,000 miles. Now they’re going to replace my Tundra engine but I’ve had no problems and have been happy with it but I mean, how can I turn that down?

[@alark79]

I think that's pretty amazing of Toyota to do this. Seems like this would help the value as the truck is no longer a potential ticking time bomb as the original engine was.

[@henrywan7449]

I’m planning on getting a used 2022 tundra and send it straight for the recall. I have other cars so it’s no big deal. Hopefully this will work out.

[@R.Sole88109]

If you're lucky. Here 🇬🇧 when Nissan Navara D40 chassises were snapping, people were doing your idea to get a replacement chassis then sell the vehicle or upgrading to the D23 version for a lower price then selling it. So Nissan then stipulated you had to be the registered owner for a number of years. It'll be interesting if Toyota make a similar stipulation. Best of luck.

[@henrywan7449]

@@R.Sole88109 hm good point.. but first I plan on keeping it since I’ve been truck hunting. Second, I “believe” the recalls in the US has nothing to do with the owner/ year of ownership since those are safety issues. Remember , in America we like suing 🙃. Let’s see !

[@daweed980]

Love the devotion to get the news out as it comes out no matter where you are. 👍

[@letstrythat00]

Gotta give respect to toyota. They prioritized their customers over shareholders on this issue.

[@JDMFR3AK]

They didnt want to do it they were forced too by the government because of safety concerns.

[@letstrythat00]

@@JDMFR3AK I hadn't heard that. Can you post your source? I can't find anything on the government forcing them. I'd enjoy the read.

[@JDMFR3AK]

@@letstrythat00 the NHTSA opened an investigation on them because they were only replacing the heads and not the actual engine because it saved them money, they now have to replace the engines because its a bigger problem. My cousin works at Toyota so they get the news, its gonna be ugly in that service department as they are backed up with those things.

[@Longhardwood69]

@@letstrythat00 its been a fight for like 2 months…some dealers did not want to buy back the trucks. Also, hold on for the first engine replacement until a few have been done. 19 year old techs is kind of sketchy for 50k and up trucks

[@dein45d]

Better include the full engine (crate). The techs don’t wanna pull these things apart piece by piece.

[@RedWingsninetyone]

Well it's a 20 hour job. You're not going to get an engine in parts and build them all by hand when there's a factory that makes them, and you certainly aren't doing dozens of them each in that amount of time

[@s13one80]

​@RedWingsninetyone haven't you seen the video's of toyota techs tearing down the engine just to replace the defective main bearings as per toyota engineer's instruction? toyota should've done a short block replacement from the start.

[@user-ql3ge2us4s]

It's not about what the techs want.

[@RedWingsninetyone]

@@s13one80 that was the fix then. It's not the fix now though

[@volvo09]

It's a long block - aka, a full engine. They'll just have to swap over the accessories like alternator and AC compressor.

[@jchapman1351]

My dealer said it’s absolutely not a new engine. I called Toyota directly today and spoke with 3 different people and they have added the word “assembly” to the recall notice. My dealership said so far they have done 3 short blocks not complete engine replacements. You’re welcome and send commissions my way for breaking news.

[@JDC129]

I know it’s a huge inconvenience to have be without your truck for a few weeks but at least Toyota is actually PROACTIVELY fixing the problem. Unlike GM and Ford that would pull an Officer Barbrady “move along move along… nothing to see here folks” 🙄

[@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806]

Gmc/ Chevrolet sell thousands more than the Tundra....the percentage of issues is VERY LOW.

[@toddcunningham2410]

I would totally take a brand new manufacture built engine, that I’m confident will come with a fresh warranty on that new engine. I would also take my time getting in line as this is going to take some time, mean while I’d be driving the truck all the time racking up miles on the old engine. As far as resale, if I was looking for a used Toyota, it take the truck with the replaced engine over a truck with the original engine as the truck with the replaced engine will have less milage on it. No brainer!

[@absentheartandmind]

Well at least they made it right, as I assumed they would.

[@greggb681]

No, they did not. The 2024 Tundras are having the same issues, with engines built AFTER 2023.

[@guyjordan8201]

Great outcome. An official Toyota notation of engine replacement would help with resale confusion.

[@CaptainNero]

I say, bravo, they're stepping up to the plate and making it right. I'm making an appointment tomorrow for my tundra.

[@pcihector]

Don't do it if you don't need it! Wait some time.

[@sk-un5jq]

Wait a few months. You dont want to be the first with a new inexperienced mechanic.

[@steveb796]

In the 90s I had a 4 runner with 70,000 miles. They had a recall on cylinder head gaskets. Mine had failed and leaked anti freeze into the block. They gave me a new short block.

[@alfredoelias4760]

I have a 2023 TT v6 and just hit 20k miles on it, I wonder what the reimbursement will be if I refuse to get the new engine.

[@rickbernhardt3912]

The recall does not say there will be reimbursement so get the engine replaced if your vehicle is affected. Not all vehicles were affected… you would have got a recall notice or you can go on thr NHTSA website, put in your VIN and find out

[@phyllispahmahmie5831]

In Kansas an engine replacement does not change the mileage on the vehicle. In this case the mileage could be documented when the engine was replaced.

[@Rottingboards]

If I had 50k on my truck...I would take a new engine and start at zero.

[@marcoallende3683]

Mines already at 56k miles. I drive about 25k/yr so by the time mine gets around to getting this done I may be closer to 75k. Curious what it'll do to value.

[@tinhinnh]

Def a no brainer

[@dpl2617]

And your truck is worth zero 😂

[@dpl2617]

​@@marcoallende3683 Your truck has no value now 🤦‍♂️ And a much reduced value with the new engine.

[@kingodoom2]

​@@dpl2617 Man you just waited for this video to post so you can just troll people lol

[@06colkurtz]

About time. And easier to swap an engine than pull one, repair it, and put it back together

[@revampted]

i'm happy Toyota stand behind their products

[@philhenderson3516]

Child please! Toyota is only doing it because the NHTSA is behind their back on the issue. Toyota is trying to avoid having to shell billions to the government in fines like what happened back in 2010 with the self-accelerating Toyotas. Back then Toyota was literally brought to its knees.

[@deairreoh]

@@philhenderson3516 OK but other companies don’t do it at all until it’s too late cough cough Hyundai and Kia , , I could honestly say they do stand by their products, I got a coworker with a 2000 four Runner and they replaced his entire dash and this had to be in like 2015

[@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806]

There was a lawsuit on this as well....

[@joemartino6976]

If you do the math, the average dealer will have about 70 engines to replace over the span of the recall. That’s a lot of extra work to process for the techs.

[@mcoop571]

I heard it was 700 motors per dealer!

[@joemartino6976]

@@mcoop571 I’m just spreading 105.000 Tundras over 1500 US Toyota dealers. One thing Toyota could do is set up some sort of traffic system that sends a customer to the nearest dealer with the shortest wait time for an engine swap.

[@peterdaniel66]

Now you know why the Tacoma is 10K more than last year... Someone has to pay.

[@Sylvan_dB]

Unless I was having trouble or seeing signs of imminent problems, I would not be in a hurry to get the new engine. Then when I got the new engine I'd keep all the documents for future reference during resale. I wouldn't try to get cash in lieu of the replacement engine.

[@dpl2617]

Your resale is dead...

[@jcho6927]

I have 2022 tundra , i am excited for them to replace. Mine is at 60,000 miles . So its a win for me

[@PatrickSBellSr]

Wow. This is impressive - it's not typical for a manufacturer to admit fault AND do the proper fix - especially this quickly. Kudos to Toyota/Lexus! 😎👍

[@dpl2617]

They had no choice. They aren't selling, can't be sold with open warranty issue that had no solution. And NO ONE would take them on trade! Trust me this isn't because they have a good heart🙄

[@joshephand5538]

Toyota don’t dealers want to fix anything anything under warranty

[@10219266]

Glad they went this direction, hopefully they still plan to take care of the hybrid and sequoia owners as well

[@JamesMcGillis]

I've never heard of a vehicle with a replaced engine being worth more than one with "matching numbers" chasis and engine. Who wants a "reworked" vehicle over OEM?

[@kenmcalpine2215]

Safe argument. But, then there's the guy that does his own maintenance, but doesn't really maintain anything. It's always buyer beware.

[@wahoolinh]

Dude - this is a tundra not a gull wing Mercedes. There are no matching numbers to begin with.

[@firstlast---]

Who cares 😂

[@IO-zz2xy]

I just cannot imagine how Toyota will be able to manufacture so many replacement engines plus the ones for production vehicles.

[@LuigiL75]

Especially since they are going to be manufactured at the SAME plant that the faulty ones came from in the first place! 😅

[@Steve-br7wt]

Exactly why I own Toyotas. They know how to take care of their customers. I feel bad for all those that dumped their trucks and took a hit.

[@islandhopper100]

not exactly...class action required for frame rot...soy based insulation still used on wiring. The only reason Toyota is recalling is the liability associated with knowingly allowing unsafe vehicles on the road without offering a remedy. Once a couple of people lose their lives, the legal cost would have been a lot more than 2 billion when the class actions and civil actions start piling up. these new turbo systems are a disaster plain and simple.

[@sfbfriend]

This is such a good move on Toyota's part, this will definitely influence my choice on another truck. I currently drive a Ford Ranger, I love this truck, have driven Fords for decades and I know they would never do this voluntarily.

[@A15689]

This is not limited to the US. Recalls have been issued globally in many countries where the Tundra/LX600/LC300 are sold. Massive hit to Toyota.

[@Baebon6259]

don't forget the GX 550 as well.

[@Weatherby406]

It’s a drop in the bucket for a company that big..

[@timkinley1779]

The story was about the post on the NHTSA. Which is a US government funded organization.

[@jbountalas]

There's nothing you can do to make this look pretty, but Toyota did the right thing and came through for their customers. They owned up to the issue and they're fixing it. If I had one of these trucks, I'd be glad to have the engine replaced. As far as trade in time or if you decide to sell it, the mileage at the time of engine replacement would typically be recorded by the dealership, so it'll be a bit odd, but it shouldn't be too confusing.

[@txvet7738]

Good job Toyota and great job TFL for staying on top of this issue!! I most definitely get the engine changed, that’s a huge safety risk driving this vehicle. The safety of my family and the drivers around me out weigh the possibility of a lower value later on!

[@TFLtruck]

Thanks! 👍

[@philhenderson3516]

Let's stop white washing Toyota. They had absolutely no intentions in fixing these; otherwise, the problem would've been caught when this engine debuted back in 2018 as there have been cases of LS500's with the exact same issue DATING to 2018. It took them 6 years to acknowledge there was an issue, 6 YEARS! And only because the NHTSA decided to step in.

[@pickin6strangs]

So not for 2024's?? Hope so, just picked one up two weeks ago. It's nice And I love it. Even if it needed a replaced engine, I'd still keep it.

[@TJ-oi5qe]

Why would anyone refuse this recall?

[@benzimmermann2197]

Good job Toyota for jumping on this and keep those vehicles from coming back. That's awesome!

[@winstondeocampo699]

I’m not sure those techs in the dealerships know how to do it as well as people in the factories.

[@wally6193]

lol, yeah okay, no I don't think so, maybe some of them with more experience.

[@jefftravis384]

I own one and I'm super excited I'm getting a new engine. I leased my truck and I'm 52k so this makes it to where I might buy my truck now at the end of lease in March.

[@krookdfinra]

Is this that turbo v6 engine they just introduced to replace the v8? If so i knew it was going to be a failure

[@mikefoehr235]

Man you are spot on. I love Toyota but when I heard they were switching to the TTV6 I got my Tundra in 2020. I love the 5.7 V8. It is barely worse on fuel than the v6 and probably much better on fuel towing a heavy trailer

[@dwad561]

Damn, I seen a 2022 sr tundra with 91,000 miles on it for sale for $26,000 really was considering buying it and right when I was about to buy it someone else end up getting it before me now I’m kicking myself because now I could’ve gotten that truck With a replaced engine for free essentially making a brand new truck for a low price since I have a second vehicle, i dont mind it being in the shop for a few weeks since would not be too bad considering though overall positive end results

[@scottyellis3442]

Good for Toyota for doing the right thing.

[@1136tscc]

When a company stands behind there product it makes me consider them more reliable, not less

[@tubularfool]

I have a 23 non hybrid tundra and I’m skeptical of the fix. First off it just says new engine. Is that a FULL new engine? New short block? It’s very vague, not enough details. Second off no matter the fix the cab has to be pulled and the engine has to be rebuilt/replaced. Every single one of these trucks will lose the factory spec and their truck will be forever a rebuilt. I don’t know if it’s possible and it would cost so much more but I would have more faith if the trucks were put back on the assembly line and properly factory rebuilt. To me this would be best case scenario.

[@chavster6969]

They’re doing short blocks. Huge pain for dealer techs. Yes body / cab comes off. There’s videos on YT about this…

[@lofongeivan6536]

Why doesn't this apply to hybrid tundra?

[@juandeg8249]

even though the engine is new, there is a vin number. You can perform an Odometer Check by entering in the VIN (Vehicle Identification Number), Model Year and Make of a vehicle or by the eMV-50 Number.

[@mvcharisma2968]

I’ll be curious to see how long the new engines last 😂

[@studsauce7803]

Mine is a 2023 and part of the recall. Truck runs smooth and no issues. But i suppose ill take a new engine 🤷‍♂️ good on them to do the right thing. Wont see the big 3 doing this willingly. Big win for toyota

[@yayinternets]

This is absolutely the right thing to do. Especially gives confidence to those who have been on the sideline that Toyota will stand behind their product. Well done, Toyota!

[@dpl2617]

Sooo, first they denied any problems, then they lied, then smart consumers wouldn't buy them, dealers couldn't sell them, no dealer would take them on trade, and this has been going on for three years!!! Yeah, well done Toyota 👏

Good for Toyota for doing this!! Says a lot about Toyota wanting to solve this issue and restore faith!!

[@jobe20001]

Replacing an engine is no small task on one of these. The amount of disassembly that's required really makes me question if I'd want the truck back after a dealership mechanic tore it apart. Yea sure there are some great talented mechanics out there but there's many more mediocre ones that will just slap it back together. I had an engine replaced in a Pontiac years ago under warranty and I can say the job they did wasn't pretty. When I took the car back to complain the all GM at the dealership said to me was he was embarrassed and it was his best mechanic that did the job.

[@sonictech1000]

They're going to get lots of practice on this one.

[@sk-un5jq]

And dealerships have a hard time finding good mechanics with experience because the pay is low. The last thing you want is a 23 yo kid who has never done it before doing yours. I ve read bad stories about under qualified and under experienced techs creating more problems.

[@joeuscanga7235]

Excellent resolution from Toyota...! Dodge did the exact same thing by replacing over 20k faulty CP4 Diesel Fuel pumps. The local dealers were doing one pump a week. The waiting time was almost 9 months.

[@rdgr]

The biggest cost for Toyota is their reputation of reliability. Sad.

[@OneNationUnderGod.]

Everyone knew abandoning the V8 in the tundra was going to lead to less reliability. There's no replacement for displacement!

[@gpaje]

​@@OneNationUnderGod.This engine issue isn't due to engine configuration but manufacturing process, this could have happened to a new V8 just the same.

[@gpaje]

This will only reinforce Toyotas reputation for doing the right thing, when you consider other manufacturers have dropped the ball and done nothing to help their customers, this will only help Toyotas rep.

[@OneNationUnderGod.]

@@gpaje i agree, that has nothing to do with V6 engines being unreliable in work pickups though and that is the point I was making

[@stevenkopec5266]

I think this solution only helps to sustain the image of reputability at Toyota. Toyota does not only identifies problem but most importantly provides a solution to address it. In the end that is what it is all about.......confidence.

[@enjoytheridedude]

Yes I will take my truck in for the engine replacement.

[@marvinbrickhouse9122]

This is why you buy Toyota over Ford. You can’t ask more than this. Toyota is a company that values it’s reputation

[@vikashummer]

This is why i would continue buying a yota product...it hasnt abandoned the customer

[@adir_1]

So did they fix this problem in the newer Tundras? Are the ones sitting on dealer lots safe to buy? I thought I read somewhere where the engine part was superseded sometime back in January or February. Maybe you just have to check the build dates who knows. I'm ready to buy one but kind of nervous.

[@davidkirksey8521]

I am glad I got the Nissan pro 4x, so far has been a great truck and the 5.6 V8 has been awesome.

[@jf1673]

THEY NEED TO GIVE THE PEOPLE A BRAND NEW TRUCK WTF.!!! THEY SHOULD ALSO GET FREE SERVICE THE REST OF THE TRUCKS LIFE THEY BUILT THAT CRAP.

[@drivewayhero]

You sound like a handout-wanting liberul. Why would they give people new trucks. What is faulty other than the 100k engines that they will replace

[@vettle1]

​🤦‍♂️ you mean the fact that your 70K truck already has the engine replaced and the front clip entirely removed? You do know that reduces the resale value right?

[@davidws5439]

According to Toyota's latest financial reports the company's total debt is $241.49 B. A company's total debt is the sum of all current and non-current debts.

[@marcelo403polo2]

how the hell bankrupt like this is still on the market?

[@Jay-me7gw]

Wouldn’t you have a ton of debt too if you could get money at 1.5% interest for the last 4 years? I do. Got a nice cash out refi on my house at super low interest and now I’m literally making money on the money I borrowed since interest rates have skyrocketed

[@davidws5439]

@@Jay-me7gw Hell no. Toyota owes 240+ Billion dollars. With sales dropping like a rock in china, Toyotas profits and doing business will end very poor. The gaint will fail.

[@lvsqcsl]

@@davidws5439 So, all they have to do is ask for a bailout from the Japanese Government like they did in 2008.

[@Queensizemusic]

There would be documentation relating to the mileage at the time of the replacement, so that wouldn’t be an issue at all. In fact, the value of any vehicle that receives the new engine would be far more valuable in the resale market.