Ike Gauntlet: Does The New 2023 Chevrolet Colorado Kill OR Fail the World's Toughest Towing Test?

[@doublebackagain4311]

Trans temps were concerning. Since traffic caused you to end the test early, suggest doing the test again - in August.

[@triver7593]

It’s snowing outside and the transmission was almost overheating. I really want to see this when it’s 85f outside

[@gravitygabri3l]

I towed a car trailer and car through the Sierra Nevadas, weighed in at 7500lbs, in 110F with my 2018 Colorado LT 3.6 and transmission temps never went above 180F. I regret selling that truck in hope that this generation would be better. That 2.7L 4 cyclinder engines are having a lot of problems on the Silverados. Im gonna pass on the 2023 trucks and look for a used 3.6L ZR2 Colorado. Naturally aspirated engines will always be more reliable than force induction.

[@Ben24636]

Gm transmissions suck they always overheat on the tests

[@macsterguy]

Way to take one for the team André and your trip performed like a champ!

[@billredding2000]

@@gravitygabri3l That's one reason I like my Jeep Gladiator: It's got a naturally-aspirated V6 gas (Pentastar). -- BR

"I'm not using cruise control today", or any other day.

[@goldblueberries326]

Tfl can't use cruise control because he forgot to select it when he ordered his truck

[@Weak_juan]

Lol

[@williamabaker12]

​@@goldblueberries326 that is the joke..

[@ribbit1964]

Brutal 😬 Thanks Andrey for being a good sport over new truck quirks

[@nelsonbeachy]

Automotive Inquiry just put out a really good series comparing the Chevy 6.6 gasser with the Ford Godzilla, pulling about 15k. He showed on video the difference between using cruise control and not using it while going down hill. No surprise, cruise control maintained speed while not using cruise control allowed the trucks to speed up. The idea that people don't use cruise control while towing, comes from years gone by when cruise control systems were truly terrible. Nowadays things have changed, and if you want to properly test vehicles, you should test them for things they've been designed for.

[@justinloughrie15]

It would be interesting to see what those trans and oil temps do when it gets hot outside!

[@BabyGators]

The way GM thermostats seem to work on the trannies, I think it would stay the same. No reason they should use thermostats set that high though.

[@G-Rated]

The same thing it just did - heat up oil but maintain a good operating temperature. There was no overheating seen here. That’s full synthetic oil by the way, there _is_ a difference.

[@BabyGators]

@@G-Rated I wonder what the ideal temp is. I’d think close to 100. I wouldn’t see a disadvantage to being cooler (above at least 100 or so.

[@302Mustang13]

@@aerynlovell4754 Most turbo engines have minimal lag. Mine is a 4cyl and there's hardly any and I tow. I'm confused on your description of the turbo setup and believe you have it wrong.

[@aerynlovell4754]

@Kenneth O A supercharger is connected to the engine and therefore has ZERO LAG. You just said with a small turbo it has HARDLY ANY LAG. You seem to be confused because "hardly any" isn't the same as NO LAG. And if you work on your reading comprehension, you would know my biggest issue with turbos is the excessive amount of tubing (compared to a supercharger) and because it is connected to the exhaust the heat from the exhaust is transferred to the turbo then to the intake air. Any discussion about turbos vs. superchargers talks about parasitic loss from the supercharger vs. turbo lag and heat transfer from turbos.

[@99-Zulu]

They should offer the 3.0 turbo diesel. It may not have as much power as the the new Ranger Raptor. But that TQ and the fuel economy would be a big plus. As of right now the 3.0 TD Silverado has the best hwy mileage out of all the full-size offerings. It will allow the Colorado to also claim best hwy mileage as well.

[@khakiswag]

Since the I6 is a tight fit in the full size trucks I'm sure it wouldn't fit under the hood of the smaller mid-size trucks.

[@duramaxadventures5832]

it too long for this chassis sadly. maybe in the 2034 refresh.

[@G-Rated]

@@duramaxadventures5832 *2027

[@tda024]

Bring back that Mini Max 4 cylinder turbo diesel. Lol

[@JMNovak1011]

@@duramaxadventures5832 Ya I was going to say that the redesign of the truck doesn't allow the Duramax to fit. As well as the intercooler in the front.

[@jonjpbm]

These ike's with Mr. Truck and Mr. Truck JR are my favorites. Not only are they entertaining but these is really a practical test of any truck and this test is sooooo good because of Andre's scientific approach. I can't over emphasize that enough. He attempts in earnest to keep all of the controllable factors the same. And the banter.... the color of urine :)

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@DeltaSierra426]

Ike Gauntlet isn't necessarily practical but actually even better, it's a torture test; trucks that do well on it inspire a lot of confidence for the rest of us that won't be pushing our trucks this hard. Otherwise, yes, TFL has a few other tests that are practical, like the mpg loops.

[@vr4787]

The most important part of the test was the available space for the hats 🤠. Definitely keep an eye on the trans and engine temps, it’s screaming more than a screaming Jimmy.

[@MrTruckTV]

Head room is a good metric

[@outbackeddie]

I would love to get one of these trucks, but my Tahoe will be 30 years old in another 7 years and I gotta hit that 30 year mark just for the challenge of it. Besides, it's running great and still looks good. Wish me luck.

[@malcolmn.5222]

You are probably keeping it in great condition

[@davewilson8308]

Those old Tahoe’s never die, love them!

[@pryme2013]

Saying 30 in 7 years doesn’t really do anything to make it sound super old. Might as well say “it will be 40 in 17 years. 😂

[@peterhoma6385]

I would keep that old Tahoe the new chevys are complete junk , nothing but big screens and “fancy” interior meanwhile the motors and transmission have gotten to be trash .

[@gregormaitland5065]

I have a ‘17 Tahoe and love it. I’m driving it until the wheels fall off!

[@a-borgia4993]

happy to see that Mr. Truck has lost some weight. Good for him.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks, getting the belly slimmed down is the hardest.

[@cliffordmontana4562]

@@MrTruckTV Looking lean and mean Mr Truck! You and Andre are an awesome duo! I watch all your videos together. Keep up the good work brother.

[@MrTruckTV]

@@cliffordmontana4562 Thanks

[@andrewstubbs9951]

Really glad i found this video. Been looking at trucks for a long time and been debating getting a full size or mid. The most I'd be hauling is a small car on a trailer and a motorcycle in the bed. This extreme test is definitely convincing me of the capabilities of modern midsize trucks

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

I'm sure you could tow that with a Ford Explorer lol

[@MiguelMarenco-nu7df]

That truck would be perfect with the LZO Duramax... Imagine that prefect combination...!

[@bertveldhuizen8699]

1:45 "I'm not using cruise control today". Really, you mean to say: "I bought a 2023 truck that didn't come with cruise control"...LOL

[@jasonpitts8395]

Chip shortage

[@duramaxadventures5832]

@@jasonpitts8395 he forgot to order it. teh trail boss is literally just a 2 inch lifted WT with fender flares. you have to add options.

[@Travisj9935]

He was also going over 60 most of the way up. So it wouldn't be fair for the time either 😅

[@tomstarcevich1147]

Chip shortage 😂 my 2021ram1500 classic tradesman comes standard with cruise control 😮

[@kidamere2408]

something basically standard from the mid 80's come on chevy

[@mahhty4279]

Had a diesel and 3.6 Colorado. Both are Definitely better downhill than the new truck.

[@jaykanngiesser3454]

Awesome test, exactly what I had hoped for! Mid sized trucks definitely handle loads differently than a full sized. Need to be prepared for it. I would go through brakes every 40,000 miles with my last gen Colorado as I towed at max load a lot.

[@SSgt-]

Looking forward to an Ike Gauntlet with the 2024 Ranger 2.7 Ecoboost for comparison.

[@jasonlarsen3515]

The ford 2.7 is a beast.

[@MrApiiinr]

I have that engine in my F150. It towed a car hauler with a pool deck worth of wood no problem.

[@cliffordmontana4562]

It will BLOW THIS TRUCK OUT OF THE WATER! I’ve driven both, it’s not even a comparison. A full size 2.7 F150 also gets about 4-5 mpg better on the expressway than this midsize truck with less power.

[@richardnottelmann58]

Mr truck and Andre are the best Ike combo. 2 guy's with CDL's that know how to setup a truck and trailer.

[@TFLtruck]

Thank you for the kind words.

[@richardnottelmann58]

You are welcome.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@Batolocor22]

He said No full throttle but that engine noise inside the truck . good video guys 👍

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@Gen3HemiBuilder1964]

Worked for the dealerships as a tech for the past 22 years. Looking at that oil temp and trans temp that was displayed I wouldn’t count on the longevity of The trans. Data logging at that point in the temp graph it would suggest the trans was 260 and oil temp was excess of 260.

[@B-rad303]

Mr. Truck is old school, I like that guy. I met him once in Brighton. Super nice guy in real life.

[@TFLtruck]

Could not agree more.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@polish9817]

Now, please flash the truck and do the same exact test to compare results. I think that would be interesting for sure. Currently driving an 07 Tacoma with 350k on the clock, looking to possibly pick one of these new colorados up. Would tow a trailer that weighs about 5k pounds

[@CharlesAnsman]

Trans running hot in the winter, re-run the test with the A/C on in August.

[@gordonmckenney4525]

Needs An Auxiliary Transmission Oil Cooler badly!

[@tomstarcevich1147]

Definitely not equipped to tow that much in summer 😕

[@richardoaks3597]

Mr. Truck asked you a very tough but honest question and unintentionally the best roast ever. 😂

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@stevehoward3981]

I love it. I pull 6500 with my Colorado with a 2.8 duramax and it does quite well. The 2.7 is definitely up to the challenge.

[@jamosgarage9006]

Do you tow in mountains? Or flat land?

[@stevehoward3981]

I tow on both and I take it easy.

[@tundrarat]

I love a midsize truck but I would probably want a bigger truck with that trailer or get a smaller trailer with that truck. Nevertheless, that was quite impressive. I’m considering trading in my ‘19 Colorado for a ‘23. There’s some nice improvements overall.

[@DeltaSierra426]

You want the first model year of the next generation? Might as well wait for 24's to go on clearance once 25's arrive next year, IMO, or take the plunge now if the itch is that bad.

[@ribbit1964]

One of the best buddy combos on TFL & another Ike on the books👍 I wonder how cruise control would have changed results 🤔

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@ryansheard8092]

A mid size truck towing a nearly 7K lb box up that mountain is pretty impreasive. Period. It's never going to do it with as much ease as a larger truck. I think the transmission mapping could be much better in tow/haul mode but overall, that truck performed fairly well. I am excited to see the new Ranger and Tacoma in comparison although the Ranger doesnt have a "Trail boss" trim level. For 75% of the population that needs or wants a truck, the new mid sizers are more than adequate.

[@khakiswag]

Agree 100%. Folks don't realize that 20 years ago a full size truck would've struggled doing the same thing with a V8. Now a turbo 4 makes it look easy.

[@duramaxadventures5832]

it will next year. for 2024 tremor is coming back. HOPEFULLY to XLT as well as lariat

[@JonBecker81]

Seems like the tow haul mode can use some more tuning. Not downshifting going down hill and then shifting way too often going up hill. If it was my truck I would definitely be controlling the trans manually in big hill situations.

[@mmiller1188]

I rented a 2021 with the 5.3 and 8 speed and the be harass the same. It wouldn't downshift going downhill but would drop gears if it smoked there was an uphill section coming up. With tow/haul enabled

[@gordonmckenney4525]

Agree

[@07HDDriver]

Every automatic gen 3 Tacoma owner flinched reading this.

[@JonBecker81]

@@07HDDriver a lot of shifting on those

[@MrTruckTV]

Yes for your own truck, manual shifting in mountains is a good idea

[@jeremysmith9868]

I’m also upset about losing the diesel option, but almost worse than that is the loss of the flat folding rear seat. I use that platform for hauling more than the box. I mean they are already forcing the crew cab on us. 😢

[@gregmoessner3104]

I’m totally with you on that. Slowly being forced into a box

[@larryj8924]

@@gregmoessner3104 Forcing the crew cab/short bed on us in full size, difficult to find the double cab standard bed, guess hauling volume less important to truck buyers. I know, more folks use pickups for everyday car's compared to decades ago.

[@DeltaSierra426]

Yep, so when GM doesn't want to offer those options, time to shop the other guys. ;)

[@johnmeeboer8971]

This truck is way nicer than the new ranger.

[@RossMalagarie]

I agree except the new Ford Ranger Raptor does look better in my opinion and that's coming from a GM guy that only buys GM and will get a gen 3 Colorado Trail Boss

[@duramaxadventures5832]

ranger has WAYY better tech avail. lane centering, adaptive that ISN'T an AI camera, park assist, trailer guidance and teh knob, out board shocks, 2.7 TT, 10 speeds, 3.73 its teh better truck but also more $$

[@G-Rated]

@@duramaxadventures5832 Ford will *never* offer “way better tech” than GM. That’ll NEVER be the case, sir.

[@duramaxadventures5832]

​@@G-Rated lane centering, automatic parking (parallel and perpendicular), adaptive cruise with stop and go (gm uses a camera with AI), Trailer reverse guidance, trailer back up assist, BLIS for trailer, intersection assist (can out maneuver red light runners), evasion steering assist, trail control (off road cruise control) , 360 lighting, trailer navigation, wiper deicer, rain sensing wipers. Matrix projector LED headlights with swivel 2023 Colorado has NONE of those

[@shawndixon4536]

You have to remember that the GM 8-speed transmission didn't just have shudder issues in the trucks, but the Camaro and Corvette had TSB service numbers issued also.

[@texandy89]

Andre should've kept his F-150 Powerboost

[@hellkitty1014]

Curious to see a retest in the dead of summer. Those trans and oil temps were concerning in only 47° weather. That said, the ride and stability control seemed top notch.

[@RICKY760]

That’s how my 08’ Colorado died, pulling a 4k lb trailer; it blew a rod towing in 100 degree heat

[@hellkitty1014]

​@@RICKY760YIKES!

[@zelenizub2036]

That would be an "Up in smoke tour".

[@ejgrant5191]

@@RICKY760 ....The I-5 motors are TERRIBLE! Thats why I waited to find an "Alpha" H3 Hummer and no real mileage penalty with the V8

[@RICKY760]

@@ejgrant5191 yess absolutely! I ended up just getting a ram 1500 v8 to pull the camper safely. Has the tow mirrors, brake controller and power to make it

[@Kenneth_R]

Great result. Really impressive for a mid-size. This is 1/2 ton truck performance from just a few years ago.

[@Camakazininja]

This truck has a 3/4 ton payload capacity so it should have at least 1/2 ton performance…

[@mvcharisma]

I don’t know why, but I still think of Andre checking brake temps and speaking in Russian at the bottom of each downhill test 😂 That would be an interesting comparison to bring back though

[@spencermorgan9108]

Andre, I really love the color! Also Mr Truck should probably be drinking more water 😂

[@concernedcitizen7928]

@TFL__truck from the urine color comment.

[@JarmelSingsKaraoke]

THANKS ANDRE AND MR TRUCK...👏👏👏...HAVE A BEAUTIFUL SATURDAY EVERYBODY ✌️

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@Smithx9541]

towing in L instead of D provides more control over the shifts when towing in the hills. Helps me a lot. especially downhill when the truck wants to hold gears too long.

[@alfu8868]

It’s concerning that the transmission temp went up that high…and it was probably freezing cold that day.

[@TheSavage3.6]

it was 45°f. if it was 95-100°F outside i’d imagine they’d have to make several stops on the side of the road to let the trans cool down as it was already nearly pegged. that tranny will not live to see 100k.

[@outlook2145]

I was bit surprised that it seemed to be a bit lethargic getting up to speed and seemed pretty loud getting there. I don't exactly recall how much you towed with the Ranger Tremor, but it seemed to do it easier? I thought this 2.7 would/will be great in this truck. The trans temps on a cold day are a bit bothersome unless GM designed it this way for a reason...... Nice truck overall and definitely on my shopping list.

[@raynerussell7998]

this was also the mid tier 2.7 option. id like to see what the the high output does. that extra torque would help get it up to speed a touch faster.

[@jroch41]

“Why did you buy a truck the same color as urine?” 😂😂

[@jasonpitts8395]

If your urine looks like that you had better go to the doctor haha. One of my grandpa's friends was cheap although the guy had money. He would go to a Cadillac dealer and pick out the one with the ugliest paint color. Bright pink or Lime Green. He would tell them no one would ever buy it due to the color, and as a favor he would take it off their hands at a reduced price. From what I remember it worked because all his vehicles had the worst color paint on them.

[@jeffforbes70]

andrew was avoiding the question at all cost

[@alexanderryan1176]

@@jasonpitts8395 that doesn't make much sense. If nobody bought the cars with a specific color, the dealer just wouldn't stock them.

[@doughenry7287]

"I'm not using cruise control today..." Hmm why is that Andre? 😉🤣

[@ryanmcfarland1900]

With how expensive trucks are, you'd think they could throw a transmission cooler on there.

[@robertk1049]

You'd think cruise control would be standard too...

[@WSmith-ne5ks]

Or add a physical light switch

[@mattbrew11]

@@WSmith-ne5ks light switch is absolutely unnecessary. I have an entire fleet of trucks for my business. They go on auto once and never get touched again, ever.

[@G-Rated]

@@WSmith-ne5ks add a physical light switch *for what?* There’s already a digital switch and the lights are literally automatic. This channel is always full of bandwagon comments whenever it’s a GM. They have the most haters always nagging, crying, complaining, and making the biggest deal out of no big deal.

[@G-Rated]

@@robertk1049 lol how do you generalize all trucks and options in the way that you just did as if options and trim levels aren’t a thing? Just because you think trucks generally are “expensive” doesn’t mean they all include a long list of *standard features.* That’s not how this works.

[@ScoobyFermentation]

Objectively it was a 4/5 Star run, but I think it failed to pass the eye test. It realistically only deserved 3.5/5 stars. The transmission and gear hunting should have been bigger demerits. The new Ranger with the 2.7 and 10 speed will likely get 4.5/5 when it completes the same run.

[@jamesgranato2186]

The eight-speed didn't like that at all. It got hot because it couldn't pick a gear and stay in it

[@G-Rated]

There isn’t a transmission in this entire segment that *would like* this test AT ALL.

[@mattyice6521]

Really interested what the transmission temps would look like on a very hot day. I hate that GM didn't add a trans cooler from the factory.

[@sinister184]

Yep. Temps were dang near pegged. Come back when it’s 95 degrees.

[@TheSavage3.6]

@@sinister184 they won’t be able to as it’ll be in the shop getting a new tranny..

[@ryanb8736]

In warmer weather, it will overheat.

[@markkilpatrick7951]

It may help to turn the AC on when going down hill. That will suck a few horsepower away from the engine when you are using the engine to to slow down

[@JustinKingOffroad]

pee yellow and sounds like a lawn mower hahahaha! mr truck killing me this morning!

[@steventinsley3277]

Hats off for testing your own truck like that, I dont think i could load my brand new barely if at all broke in engine like that

[@larryj8924]

Agree, but it is a business write off in his line of work.

[@WW-wf8tu]

@@larryj8924 Personal purchases are not write offs. Unless he has a channel or home business he is using this for that I don't know about. TFL did not buy it. Whether or not he gets paid $ from Roman behind the scenes for this content is also another discussion. As many have used their personal vehicles for filler content.

[@WW-wf8tu]

He will flip it in less than 3 years, so I whole heartedly hope he abuses the shit out of this thing between now and then. Give a true impression of how the GM can stand up to short term owners that work their vehicles hard. Still waiting for the payload tests that they never seem to do. (hauling gravel, bricks, lumber, etc.) Few press loaners at Davids Ranch got a work out. But that should be included in everything they test. IMO.

[@Biggja22]

I'm loving that color. I think I might use it for my 81 Toyota starlet project. It too is yellow, but ugly early 80's yellow.

[@natefxx]

Mr Truck roasting Andres truck to his face 🤣😂 great pair for these reviews!

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@puzzlebow2158]

That thumbnail looks incredible! Prob the best on KZbin in my opinion.

[@DM-tf6mk]

A lot have said already. Those temps would be a little concerning to me. Great test. It wouldn't be a super Ike without snow in May!

[@machfive916]

Great video. I was surprised that Andre did not use cruise control, as I "thought" that was the norm; but then I remembered that this particular truck does not have it (hope a retro fit is coming soon). I too would love to see the actual transmission and oil temperatures.

[@DalesDeadBug]

I think the color is badass Andre!

[@TFLtruck]

Thank you.

[@badgerpa9]

Mr. Trucks noticed the truck has that morning color to it. Nice truck Andre almost a Mountain dew color. They are running transmissions warmer so the temps may have been fine. Great to see Mr. Truck and Andre the videos are great.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@duramaxadventures5832]

through teh radiator is very good. IF its on the cool side, but i agree ANY truck that tows need teh additional air to liquid cooler. (liquid to liquid has WAYYY more heat transfer hence why air is AFTER teh radiator ones)

[@toddwright7349]

I think I heard on one of the gm engineer videos that that transmission has cooled section cooled with the engine coolant. A tyranny fluid cooler would be nice too. However, I think the proper amount of heat is a good thing.

[@duramaxadventures5832]

@@toddwright7349 i know the 10 speed does. the 2.7 doesnt have a thermostat it has a coolant control valve liek the 3.o Duramax. it DOES have a 600W electric water pump. Could just be GM dash is completely wrong. or they display higher in teh bar graph to keep warranty claims down by making it look worse than it is.need OBD2 data to figure that one out.

[@johnkozlowski6993]

Urine! Ha! 🤣That's what my daughter said when I was looking at the new colors. Love the video, learned so much. Thank you guys! 🛻

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@great0789]

When I towed my RV over all the mtn chains with my 18’ Colorado V6… I made a simple rule. No rpms above 3,500 (for longevity sake). I was still passing semi trucks like they were standing still. However, at times my truck was only doing 45mph. I just let the truck slow before allowing it to downshift. The shorter downshifts are MUCH easier on the engine and transmission both. That is why diesel trucks last so long!!! Keep the rpms low.

[@duramaxadventures5832]

the 3.6 doesn't make power until 6K+. you were just beating up teh bottom end of teh engine by lugging it. WOT is easier than trying to drive around the computer where it is set up for comfort via trans slip.

[@great0789]

@@duramaxadventures5832 That engine hits 90% of its max torque by around 3,500 rpms. Thanks to VVT. Engines can generally only be “lugged” when working them hard @ rpms below 1500 or so. Slowing down and dropping gears multiplies that 90% torque. Which in-turn… reduces the load on the engine even further. Which even further Decreases the chances that it is being lugged. Not that it is even possible at 3.5k rpms.

[@929cbr_rr]

It's always great to see Mr Truck in your vids.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@duramaxadventures5832]

SOMEONE finally mentioned the bumper steps were from Avalanche.

[@barrytunzelmann4759]

That is the single handed best way to break in a turbo engine to haul a load like that on hills like you did. My past Dodge Cummins engines got the same treatment and when you shut down overnight and go stone cold you will find the engine a totally different unit in terms of performance and mileage.

[@michaeltelepko6800]

i would never give up my 2018 V6 colorado for the new one i have real leather and both front seats are powered with lumbar and my gps WORKS WITH OUT A SUBSCRIPTION

[@beckerization]

I appreciate the Ike Gauntlet videos. As far as off-road trailering goes, I’d like to see an off-road test, pulling the Roamer1 (and next size down) on an uphill/downhill two track road and on a section of road that requires an articulating hitch. The goal of the test is to see performance of low end torque and 4wheel abilities under tow.

[@davewilson8308]

A young girl slammed into the back of my Silverado while she was on her phone. My bumper on the driver side faces down now and I can’t use the bumper step now. You don’t realize how much you use it when you don’t have it. Love the bumper step!

[@Cody_Codi_Code]

Mr Truck mercilessly dogging Andre’s truck. 😮

[@edog5768]

What a duo!

[@jasonperry7970]

Just a shame they do not offer a long bed. Most people that would buy this truck are not camper trailer haulers but tent/dirtbike/atv campers and these 5 foot beds are just afterthoughts. A 6.5 foot bed is perfect because you can fit most atvs in the bed with the tailgate closed.

[@jayhiggins5239]

I used to do that. Then I bought a utility trailer. It's just better that way.

[@jasonperry7970]

@jayhiggins5239 true. I had a king cab Frontier pro 4x then I had my son and a rear facing car seat was a no go. 2500hd crew cab gas solved all my problems.

[@cputeq007]

Dude utility trailers are like 10x better than bed-load. I did a bed load of my dirt bike ONCE - Now I use a light-weight utility trailer with motorcycle front-wheel chock and it's ridiculously better :D Honestly I don't get the hate for the 5ft beds when trailers are almost always better (just make sure you get a trailer with tires rated to interstate speed or change 'em out).

[@jasonperry7970]

@cputeq007 it is easier to load a utility trailer but the 5 foot beds are strictly a manufacturer convenience and bean counter decision. Not only is it cheaper to produce the truck itself with less steel but they can produce more trucks per hour because more can fit inside the building at any given time. This is why you get the same engine across models. It's cheaper. I went 2500hd crew cab gas 6.0 because I can put my 750 lb atv in the bed, tow a 7000 lb, 33 foot camper (with a 700 lb tongue weight) and still have almost 1500 lbs of payload left for people and other gear. As tfl has said for over a decade now, these small trucks are "lifestyle " trucks. I loved my king cab Frontier but it was not enough truck once kiddos and car seats come along. ( rear doors open backwards and require the main doors open, no go when small kids are involved)

[@WontHe5786]

I've heard that GM trucks are made to work in conjunction with cruise to use full capability of the towing application. The system is a better manager than your foot. Maybe include some test using the cruise.

[@larryw5429]

Manufactures don't care what you can tow. They put high numbers so as a selling point so people tow heavy loads and wreck their powertrain.. Dealers love selling vehicles and they also love selling parts and service!

[@chuckasarus]

I agree with Mr. Truck the engine is not really mad to tow all the time. For a daily driver it should be good.

[@TaigaTurf]

TFL putting out the great vids.. Good times

[@professerjeeves]

I would love to know why GM didn't use the 10 speed, like the ranger?

[@freedomisntfree_44]

Can’t wait for the 2.7 ranger. That’s gonna be the one to get

[@esteban8681]

So surprised by that engine option. You're 100% right. Why would you get anything else?

[@evanhovis9126]

@@esteban8681 the 2.3 is just slightly less powerful. Both trucks are rated for the same weight and the 2.3 has priven it can handle max load. The 2.3 is more simple and cheaper to fix and maintain. Also cheaper option to start with.

[@danatkinson6698]

In a ranger im happy with a 2.3 it does the job well but if you're not working on it a 2.7 would be a little more fun.

[@paulgerard5413]

In Australia we have a 3.0 twin turbo for the raptor putting out 390hp and it goes like a stabbed rat. It’s faster to accelerate than most cars.

[@duramaxadventures5832]

@@paulgerard5413 yaaa most of your diesel utes doing 8-9 0-60 could NEVER sale here in us they consider 7.5 slow for a truck here.

[@duggydo]

Howdy fellars. I know what it's like to drive I-70 in the mountains is bad weather like that.

[@thinde88]

Time for the tune!

[@khakiswag]

Those high temps shows GM has probably pushed the tuning as far as they can reliably go with this engine. Remember GM only has the 2.7 in all the mid-size trucks. They just change the tuning for more power in the higher trims and options.

[@KyletotheRescue]

I'm so glad you made this video because I want a Colorado but I've been looking at bigger trucks that I can't afford because I wasn't sure it could pull my camper. My rig is 4900 lbs dry and 6500 with the tanks full. It's only 23'. If you can pull that monstrosity in the video up and down the rocky mountains then a Colorado will serve me just fine in the middle of Virginia. Thanks!

[@kylepighini8292]

Did you purchase the Colorado? How did it pull your trailer? I’m currently in the same position and would like to know how the Colorado performed. Thanks

[@KyletotheRescue]

@@kylepighini8292 No, I bought an F150.

[@kylepighini8292]

@@KyletotheRescue thanks!

[@slmjake]

Another great video! OEM tow ratings are such B.S. My F150 doesn't have the payload to match half the advertised tow rating. I would have to get out of the truck and run along side it to tow that heavy

[@jamesturner3151]

I can't think of a single truck with the Payload being half of the towing capacity. Seems like an odd observation.

[@slmjake]

@James Turner what I mean is my truck is advertised to have a 12000 lb tow rating. But my Powerboost payload is 1300 pounds for a crew cab. Weight of Two passengers and gear is and dog is 650 pounds. So now I can legally haul an additional 650 pounds, right? Tongue weight should be a minimum of 10 to 12%. So a 6000 pound trailer is max that I can tow and not exceed payload rating for a truck advertised with a 12k tow rating. Half of what is advertised! Sorry I confused you guys but hope you understand that math. It's BS regarding what you can tow because you eat up payload via tongue weight and passengers well before you reach max tow.

[@robertryan7204]

@@slmjake US Pickups are downrated in Australia for the reasons you give

[@JimBronson]

Towing heavy with this little truck, I might go up a grade in oil viscosity. And add an transmission oil cooler, or a larger one if it already has one. Personally I'd rather get a base model half ton than this Colorado Trail Boss, I think even with the same engine it would have a higher rating and it would feel more stable towing the same weight.

[@Mursedave]

For the record, I really like the color of Andre’s truck a lot! It looks special

[@Danman1972]

Great review. Really looking something like this and would possibly see a few mountain trips, but mostly flatter towing. I'd roll less weight though. Lighter toy haulers (small one less than 5K) with 2 dirt bikes or maybe to 2 adv bikes (1000K). I would want to stay under way under 6K. Looking at the temps I'd say maybe put that external trans cooler. Will defiantly be watching for more updates.

[@robertryan7204]

Pretty common situation in Australia a midsizer towing a near 7000lb Caravan( travel trailer). As well they are diesels

[@craigroosa9321]

Great review as always ,,,love the new Colorado ! That is a good sized trailer and did very good. Tow with a new Silverado Trailboss and find cruise control on the down hill will down shift better . About the same weight on the Ike and holds well . Congrats Andre ! And great color ...

[@TheCoffeeField]

Would like to see this same test in the summer. Something tells me it will overheat

[@keithrankin6113]

I don’t understand the fuel economy issues with this engine just literally drove 2700 miles in mixed driving conditions. Both highway, city up and down Smokey mountains and the appellations. I averaged 24.3 mpg and 25.5 on highway driving. My truck is a 2022 Silverado crew cab 4x4. Yes the trip computer is accurate and within .2 mpg from my calculator. I’ve never got below 18 mpg.

[@otahu26]

This isn't a Mid size truck. It Is about the size of a Full size truck from years ago. If this was the 1990's a GMC s10 was under 68 inches wide. A Toyota gen 1 pickup was 67 inches. These New Trucks are not small by any means.

[@manuelgomez2715]

Love the video and the truck but those temps are a little bit of a let down

[@manuelgomez2715]

I wonder if the HO calibration has more effective cooling strategy that might solve this issue?

[@EmergeFromTheAshes1]

Now that youve done the ike with the 390 torque go get it flashed to 430 foot pounds and do it over again. 40 foot pounds will make a significant difference in your acceleration !

[@manuelgomez2715]

Great idea

[@terrencejones9817]

No it won't.

[@EmergeFromTheAshes1]

@@terrencejones9817 haha sure will man. I'm coming from the diesel community and a tun adding even just 40 foot pounds down low makes a significant difference my dude. Especially in a light truck

[@terrencejones9817]

@Justin Toppings spend about 15 minutes understanding how HP and Torque are related. The Ratings for this truck are 310hp and 390tq. The " high output " is the same 310hp and 430tq. For that to be possible, it means that while the has a slightly higher peak , it tappers off faster after the peak, than the " turbo plus". If the HO engine was able to hold the torque peak for the same RPM range as the Turbo plus engine, the HO would have a corresponding increase in HP. I can't wait to see the Dynos. The lower output will actually have a better torque curve, more importantly, area under the curve. The HO might "feel" quicker during while the turbo builds boost , but the standard turbo plus might actually be faster due to the better torque curve.

[@EmergeFromTheAshes1]

@@terrencejones9817 pretty sure it can have a higher peak torque at one point and higher hp at another. It doesn't have to fall off it's torque curve. So let's say the HO makes 430 while the other makes 390 that could mean for 2000 rpms the HO would have higher torque values than the regular and by the time it builds peak HP is then tapers off to be the same torque as the non HO version.

[@okienightstalker3145]

You should do the test in "Plus" configuration and then get the "HO" upgrade and run the test again and see if it's worth the $395

[@Mijaycapri79]

Andre dedicated his new truck for TFL truck content. Talk about dedication

[@JCreole]

Not messing around with testing out the new Colorado 👍

[@TFLtruck]

Heck no!

[@atvseatexchange2176]

Should have kept the Ford and kept us up to date with a real long term test. One year doesn't mean much in todays disposable vehicles.

[@khakiswag]

Vehicles are far more reliable than they were in the past. Back in the day odometers only had 5 digits because you weren't expected to go much farther, people used to brag about "rolling her over". Now 100K miles isn't even thought of and it's expected. People don't even have a problem buying a used car with over 60+K miles on it because they expect it has a lot of life left. Nobody was thinking that when buying a used Chevy in the 80's.

[@duramaxadventures5832]

@@khakiswag the COST is teh issue. 8 speed silverado transmission jobs costing 8k. 5.3 with dead lifters costing 13K at 61k miles, etc. doesn't make financial sense to keep anymore.

[@YerBoyTroy]

If this engine has to be used repeatedly to move this kind of load it will not last long. For small turbo charged engines like this to put out this much output they will have to be within boost frequently. Boost = much higher internal pressure and heat = higher rate of wear on the internals no matter how robust they might be. Ontop of that the displacement for this engine is quite high for a 4 cylinder. Typically the larger the engine the more cylinders you want to have to act as a counter-balance for each other so that smoothness isn't compromised. Im thinking this engine will vibrate quite a bit more than the outgoing 6 cylinder especially at lower rpm. 4 cylinders have their place but i dont believe they are well suited for applications like this when having to deal with this much curb weight on a vehicle, especially if you plan to tow often. Cant just be looking at the HP/Torque. The fact that they would even use this in the Silverado is strange to me as there are even higher performance requirements for that class of vehicle. Love the video guys!!!!

[@BabyGators]

Agree with everything you said. However, 75% of trucks sold to individuals today are grocery getters and parking lot queens, so GM knows few will use them to their max.

[@NoName-zq6ic]

@@BabyGators Exactly. Trying to find a new basic 8 ft. bed standard cab work truck in the LS or XL trim on a dealer lot anymore is very rare.

[@BabyGators]

@@NoName-zq6ic even worse, mid trims are almost entirely custom order if you want anything other than crew cab, micro bed. Usually with 20 inch rims that ride like crap. And the mid trims are now 40-50k+

[@NoName-zq6ic]

@@BabyGators Yep. my 07 F-150 XL rides on factory 17" steel wheels.

[@SimplelifeCo]

Truck looks nice and modern, but from my previous experiences with gm, electrical gremlins and transmission issues I’m not ready for the nightmares again.

[@RustyShackleford42095]

I’d love to see the TFL ranger do the same run with the same trailer for comparison sake

[@Napomsfreedom]

She did surprisingly well for hauling that big of a trailer and being nearly maxxed out. I'm glad Mr. Truck said it was the color of urine - I finally saw a Nitro Yellow Canyon in person and told my wife it looks like when you take a leak after too many vitamins . . . Oh and . . . Nice hat Andre😜

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@j.robert_son3979]

Seems like the ranger handled the ike better overall. More weight, (7500) lower revs and more stable temps. (And a perfect 8min run) And with that said the 2.3 has a lower HP torque rating. Hmm... The 24 ranger with the 2.7 v-6 should be a tow monster by comparison. The 2.3 is very conservatively rated in my opinion. Stout little engine.

[@DailyDriver.]

I like the 2.3 but the 2.7 is a monster for sure. Idk if I trust either with reliability tho

[@4rr44E]

Love the look and interior, but that thing is running between 3500-4500 when towing. That little four is stressed. Makes me worry about longevity if you buy this truck to tow/work.

[@oscarreynaable]

Great video. I wouldnt want to tow this much weight often with this truck.

[@mcd5082]

Those temps are concerning considering it’s snowing when you tested this!

[@CarGuy5141]

Anyone else wish they’d put the 5.3 in these?

[@thehumungus1985]

That would be awesome, they did put it in the previous generation, 2012 etc.

[@CarGuy5141]

@@thehumungus1985 yea they did from 09-12 and it was awesome

[@wakeboarder9180]

I'd buy one in a second if they did

[@toyyoda3710]

Why does the 5.3 suck so bad compared to the Ford 5.0? or even its own Turbo 4... Less HP and less torque plus much worse MPG than the 5.0.

[@CarGuy5141]

@@toyyoda3710 from what I understand it’s different set ups and tuning. 5.3 being pushrod with less power but more low end vs the 5.0’s DOHC and a little more up on the top end

[@aussiek2000]

gonna cook the trans towing loads like this. hate to see how hot it would get at 100* ambient outside

[@tomstarcevich1147]

He doesn't keep his truck that long anyway 😮

[@davidnelson6893]

@@tomstarcevich1147 Yes you got that right