Sony FX30 gets Blackmagic Raw in September! Along with FX3 and FX6 BRAW

[@fishingreelpictures]

I literally bought an FX3 today, really glad to hear about the firmware update, looking forward to raw workflow in Davinci

[@Samvisualarts]

Hopefully the update doesn't break your camera like it did for many people

[@jaycodeligt]

​@Samvisualarts ive heard a lot of these. What happened? Latest update didnt break mine.

[@Samvisualarts]

​​@@jaycodeligt all I know is I'm NEVER buying another sony camera ever again. FUCK SONY. They are refusing to give out any help regarding their rushed update that Sony put out KNOWING it had bugs (5.00 had this issue for other people) and yet Sony is refusing to make things right and are expecting me to pay out of pocket for a new main board? Absolutely shameful customer service. NEVER AGAIN.

[@novapixel16]

A7sIII user : 😐

[@amalng]

😢

[@JustforFun853]

That's why I am moving to Lumix 😅

[@Ignoramous-r4m]

Lets cry together😢

[@remka2000]

😂

[@SterlingSanders]

The difference between the "Pro"sumer and "Pro"fessional camera tiers for Sony. My A7SIII has been my webcam/stream cam for this reason for the last 3 years.

[@GlobalShutterNY]

They really need to allow for a true RAW feed from the FULL FX30 sensor - open gate 6K. The cropped down 'RAW' from the center of the sensor is a big crop. Probably won't happen since that would make the FX30 better than the FX3 except in very low light...

[@ReachFilms]

Yes.. every video I make about the raw I mention I wish we could get the full sensor 6k readout… and I still wish for it. Canon does it with the r6 and 8k on the r5 so …. Haha

[@ignitoracing]

I read somewhere on reddit that due to hardware that will be impossible? Is it possible?

[@GlobalShutterNY]

@@ignitoracing I doubt it- feeding a RAW signal out is literally the simplest thing - absolutely no processing requires - just a 'dumb' pipe...

[@ignitoracing]

Yeah it woudl be great, but not even the fx6 or fx9 have open gate? Knowing sony which abandons older models and updates I'm still afraid this wont be happening.. @@GlobalShutterNY

[@navpreetsingh8156]

Sony possibly dropping a firmware update in a years time, thanks for letting us know! that 1 child in charge of rolling out firmwares in between school is going to be busy

[@foreverdrift]

Awesome news! Thanks for posting this!

[@dpjohnjones432]

Got an FX30 two weeks ago. So glad to hear this. I’ve been seeing fake fx3 mkII rumors and I think this plainly debunks that. These cameras are still so capable.

[@ReachFilms]

Yep pretty much tells people what 2025 will be for Sony cinema cameras

[@veilleuxfilms]

Some tech guys need to figure this out. Magic lantern for Sony camera's would be awesome!

[@KINNZ94]

I was wondering if anyone would post a video unrelated to the election, there we go! Good on you mate. 👍

[@ReachFilms]

thanks haha, since my channel really has nothing to do with politics would be a shame to start now!

[@iamakkkshay]

Finally Highlights Recovery will be possible with BRAW on FX3 to further enhance dynamic range🔥🔥

[@braydend79]

Wait…if it outputs BRAW via HDMI, that means theoretically we should be able to record 4K on an Atem Mini Pro ISO, right??

[@ReachFilms]

No because that device doesn’t support recording in 4k

[@braydend79]

That’s what I thought but apparently it will accept a BRAW 4K or 6K input thru hdmi (currently only possible with a Pocket 4K or 6K). The only catch is that you have to work with the DaVinci Resolve session the Atem creates to access the BRAW data. Theoretically, there’s no reason this shouldn’t work with a BRAW file outputted by a Sony camera. Not gonna lie, I’m kinda excited about this…

[@ignitoracing]

Sounds good, so now you can use braw recorder instead of atomos and use the files straight in resolve? Since now you have to convert the prores raw files to format that works in resolve?

[@ReachFilms]

Yes exactly

[@michaelsingJiuJitsu]

Still scared to update my FX3 to have shutter angle after they bricked so many users cameras

[@SterlingSanders]

Prores RAW from FX3 works fine editing in Premiere Pro. I do it weekly on a PC. Look forward to seeing if there's any difference, but there are no limitations for the NLE I use.

[@ReachFilms]

I couldn’t access all the raw settings on premier like I could in FCPX and that’s what prevented me from using it because I use premiere and davinci mainly. I’m looking forward to seeing what is available In the raw tab with the braw from Sony cameras. My experience is you don’t always get all the options on the cameras recording braw externally but I would like that to be different on the Sony cameras recording braw

[@tarantino999]

Hi, I received a camera from China CN2 version, with firmware 4.0 . It doesn't have the language I need, how can I fix it?

[@mannaffolki]

My question is. Will Davinci also be able to read the gyro data from the FX3 for example? That would be a game-changer as well. I personally like the footage I get from my BMPCC6K Pro with gyro stabilization. Cheers!

[@adrinaik93]

I hope in the future that could be done! I own an S5IIX and the BRAW footage is lovely, but miss that feature from my Pocket 4K

[@verrettproductions3487]

What about the last update?

[@ReachFilms]

what about it?

[@cameradoode]

I wonder if it will allow to use the gyro data for stabilisation within Resolve 🤔

[@ReachFilms]

@@cameradoode that’s an interesting point, would be pretty cool

[@NARRASSAFilmes]

With crop?

[@ReachFilms]

Yep

[@iamakkkshay]

​@@ReachFilms 4K crop on FX30 is due to Atomos external recorder not accepting 6K. If Blackmagic external recorder accepts 6K RAW then their won't be any crop on FX30 too.

[@ReachFilms]

@ no the atomos can do 6k on other cameras

[@ReachFilms]

@ it’s a Sony limitation, it can do it on canon R6mk2

[@levon-atkinson]

Good news for Sony shooters! Thanks for the info Geoff!

[@ReachFilms]

@@levon-atkinson absolutely!!!

[@DanarathTales]

Do you think it's possible that Sony could add a firmware update that lets us shoot raw straight out of the camera. without the need for external monitors? Also I'd love to see a breakdown of the Blackmagic RAW vs SLOG-3 profile to see if it's worth using.

[@ReachFilms]

I have a video about the current RAW vs slog3, as far as image quality nothing will change from that video. Basically, the colors are better in raw, but the crop is a major thing to deal with. My best results were using super 35 ef lenses with speed boosters in the raw mode on fx30. I go more in-depth on that video its around a year old I think

[@ReachFilms]

I also don't think those cameras will get the ability to shoot raw internally, they weren't designed with that in mind. However hopefully whenever we do see mark 2 versions of these cameras we get those options.

[@DanarathTales]

@@ReachFilms True. An FX30 mkii with open gate, internal NDs + internal raw recording would be insane.

[@AllThingsFilm1]

Too late. The firmware that added Shutter Angle to the FX30 broke my FX30. So, I switched to the LUMIX S5ii, to which I will be getting the update to export to BRAW to a Blackmagic 12G monitor. The better colors and features of the S5ii has made my captures so much better and pleasing. Adios, Sony.

[@q8cornel]

This was just the news that i was waiting for

[@ReachFilms]

me too!!

[@Justin_Allen]

You do realize that September 2025 is 9 months away???? Sony, once again, screws it's users over.

[@ReachFilms]

@@Justin_Allen yes I do! That’s why I mentioned it’s the 2025 roadmap. Is it far away? Yeah… no kidding. But there’s more to the announcement itself when you read into it and what’s going on behind the scenes

[@Justin_Allen]

@@ReachFilms I think Sony is announcing these things, that are so far away, in order to try and "freeze" the market. The FX9 is gone and buried, the Burano is overprices and really should have been priced at around $14,000 and marketed as the FX9II, the FX6II needs to include a few tweaks to put it into the FX9 spot and priced around $75,00 - 8,000. However Sony will not do any of that....they will attempt to just freeze the market while they release nothing between now and September 2025.

[@CartyCantDance]

How are they screwing their users? I switched from Sony to lumix, and the firmware updates are nice, but Sony camera don’t need BRAW to look good…

[@SeeYouLazer]

10 months

[@JojoJoget]

Would be funny if Sony gives a camera that shoots raw internally before this

[@jacek5384]

Somę years ago purchased Nikon Z6II plus did optional - paid - RAW firmware update and have the choice to record Apple ProRes RAW to Atomos Ninja or if I had the Brackmagic Video Assist to record BRAW.

[@NaturesNurtureNetwork-pf9lx]

in 10 months?

[@ReachFilms]

@@NaturesNurtureNetwork-pf9lx yup

[@EricLouisYoung]

Their next cameras are gonna need to do it internally to keep up with nikon

[@rmullhaupt]

It’s cool to see Sony still supporting these cams but I’d still take a good smallHD reference monitor and internal 422 on my FX3 over an Atomos or Blackmagic monitor with raw any day. Adding raw to these cameras makes such a small difference and it adds so much hassle to capturing.

[@ghospod]

12 bit RAW is a big difference comparing to 10 bit MP4. Blackmagic Video assist is also a nice 2500 nit monitor.

[@JojoJoget]

Braw isn’t real raw tho

[@ReachFilms]

the raw actually does more than you think, it essentially bypasses the Sony Color science which is HUGE!!! Especially if using in situations with different camera brands, although i still use the 10 but more on Sony, i prefer the skin tones on raw in the sony cameras that offer it

[@ghospod]

@@JojoJoget still has significantly more information and bypasses internal noise reduction (which you can't control while shooting internally).

[@rmullhaupt]

@@ghospod sure it’s got a nice panel but there’s a reason you never see anything other than smallHD FSI and TVLogic in a local 600 cam dept - the tools and workflow on the monitor matter a lot. I’m not disputing raw is a useful tool for these cameras to have. I think that for me and probably most shooters they lose more than they gain by choosing raw. Sure it bypasses internal NR and color science, but are you really a good enough colorist that you’ll do a better job than Sony there? Their internal NR is always on for a reason, it’s really good. By removing it you force yourself to add a time consuming step in post for any shot that was on the edge and helped by the internal NR. I can and have already matched my FX3 easily to Alexa Mini, Komodo, DJI Osmo, and a bunch of other weird cameras. The image has the latitude to do all that already. Yes- raw of course makes the data more flexible. That’s by definition. And if Company 3 or FotoKem are doing my color and they want raw, I’ll give them what they want, DIT permitting. But if I’m doing my own post (all the time) I don’t care for raw files.

[@ivandj707]

Great news! And recording directly to SSD would be a great upgrade (for run and gun it would be great to not have to use Ninja or Brackmagic Video Assist).

[@ekphotography]

SO it is either Davinci in September 2025 or FCPX Now? So Braw will only work in Davinci , kind of the same problem then. Good for Davinci users in a year I guess. Who know what will come out before then. I saw your video on Pro Res Raw but didn't you actually say it was NO different than the internal codec? So why would Braw make it much of difference other than being able to use it in Davinci only?

[@ReachFilms]

Braw works in davinci, premiere with a free plugin from blackmagic, or Final Cut with a paid plugin

[@22over7aintpi]

Hi Geoff, Do you think the Ninja V will also be able to get BRAW?

[@ReachFilms]

Definitely not, atomos and blackmagic have a history of not getting along

[@22over7aintpi]

@@ReachFilms Looks like I'll be selling the Ninja V I just bought then...

[@seancloutier2577]

I would like to know the benefit of BRAW over SLOG3....will I get more dynamic range?

[@ReachFilms]

Check out this video where I test raw against 10 bit internal video of the fx30. The image quality on prores raw will be the same as BRAW kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGPHfamnq7VrotU

[@seancloutier2577]

@@ReachFilms I saw that...but will there be any benefit. I have seen yours and others that there is no benefit. I mean if I am not getitng more dynamic range what is the benefit of BRAW vs SLOG

[@ResizeFilms]

Dynamic range will be the same, RAW doesn’t change the Log gamma signal from the camera, you will get more colors information compared to the internal recording though. RAW main advantage is the latitude that you get in post production for color grading and an efficient workflow.

[@mrtievolimedia]

BRAW and Slog3 aren’t the same thing. Slog 3 in a GAMMA CURVE. It records a certain range between the highlights and shadows. RAW is a bit like a codec, it’s how the image is packaged up into a file on a data card or hard drive. SLOG3 can be recorded with a variety of codecs including raw.

[@mrtievolimedia]

Black magic monitor still not supporting SONY FX3. Just tested it with the monitor. So Sony have done their part, waiting for BM to do their bit. Hope that helps.

[@simplelightmedia]

I enjoy and prefer shooting with a monitor so this update is great for me. I don't need internal raw. This keeps me from buying a new camera anytime with in the next 3 years.

[@renkyo]

I’m still an amateur in the camera and filmmaking field, but love to keep up with all the future updates and technical innovations as with the b-raw because it seems that Resolve will not support prores raw in the near future regarding different stories between atomos and blackmagic… 🙄 But let’s say the B-Raw will become official-Most of the users know that the fx30 has a 6k sensor and they would love to have that through the raw output…so why wouldn’t Sony care of making that as a paid subscription/activation for their users? Wouldn’t it be a way for them to earn and keep the users? I sure would pay if it isn’t tje same price as the camera? Any thoughts? Oh, and great videos, thank you!!

[@ReachFilms]

Unfortunately you don’t get the full 6k sensor readout in the raw mode. You get 4.7k and it’s a crop on the sensor close to micro four thirds sized. For me I’ll end up using a speedbooster and EF lenses on the fx30 to get the most out of the raw mode

[@PlaybackMedia2024]

Bro forgot to add next year in the title

[@kiliansalomon507]

well the next september is in the next year

[@ReachFilms]

It says September in the title? Bro forgot to read the title?

[@StopPlayinMultimedia]

To say that proves raw is only useable in Final Cut is 100% untrue when the actual fact is that it works in all major editors except Davinci Resolve

[@ReachFilms]

@@StopPlayinMultimedia you don’t get the same controls in Premier so I feel as if it’s misleading to say that premier can truly edit that format

[@StopPlayinMultimedia]

@@ReachFilms Not being able to edit metadata doesn't make Prores Raw only usable in Final Cut. You can import, color, and edit prores raw in Premier natively just fine. Which you can't do with Blackmagic Raw. So what about Media Composer, Edius Pro, Baselight, Assimilate.? Blackmagic Raw can't be imported into Premier natively and to be honest it's not even raw. It's partially debayered in camera .

[@KingNQueenCity]

I hope it's open gate for the fx30, otherwise recording in raw will still be completely impractical with the fx30. At least for me. Adding denoiser after the fact is still impractical for people who don't have a computer powerful enough to handle that

[@ReachFilms]

It’s most likely going to be the same 4.7k mode with the crop in on the sensor. I would be so happy if they introduced open gate and full 6k

[@ignitoracing]

Unfortunately, that will NEVER happen, even the fx6 or fx9 doesn't have open gate.. Knowing sony, they would never EVER release that to the lower cameras even if it would be technically possible.. I love sony and I shoot with sony aswell but they really abandon their cameras pretty fast and drive people into buying newer models

[@andersistbesser]

If you dont want to denoise raw is not dor you. Raw is ALWAYS noisy , raw has no in build noise reduction

[@KingNQueenCity]

@@andersistbesser I understand that, but the fx30 is already an aps-c sensor. So to add a crop on top of that becomes a bit much. I was more so concerned with purchasing a recording monitor only to realize that I would have to update my camera and my computer before I was able to capture anything usable. I think this update is awesome, I'm just going to have to update the rest of my gear first.

[@imjyun]

zve1 should theoractically be able to do this too , they just chose not to

[@kiliansalomon507]

not too sure about that, just bc the sensor is the same doesn't mean the internals are. it doesn't have full size hdmi and without the fans it might be more difficult to handle too. theres a reason the cinema line exists and has more pro features

[@ReachFilms]

@@kiliansalomon507 i agree, same sensor doesn't mean same hardware

Pro: Can use Resolve and no more transcoding - Con: Unfortunately BRAW seems to be inferior to ProRes Raw, more processed, compressed, etc. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4GlZ6qoi7B7n9k and arguably BRAW is worse for f.ex. skin tones. Regardless of that, thanks for another great video Geoff.

[@ReachFilms]

Im excited to test both of them out against each other.... in 10 months !!! haha

@@ReachFilms Haha, can't wait- Thanks again!

[@jochenretter]

September is correct, but 2025.

[@ReachFilms]

Yeah… but what though? September already passed so of course 2025 haha

[@VíctorFernández-fdz]

I don't understand the Sony Hype, Panasonic delivers RAW HDMI since the first S5 model...

[@ignitoracing]

and they have open gate, even on the lower end models..

[@ReachFilms]

Well technically Sony has to, the big deal is if you already own the camera you can now choose which raw you want. I think you miss the point here, this won’t bring people away from other camera brands. It services people who are already using these cameras or want more of them in their ecosystem of cameras

[@barezina]

"prores is only really usable in final cut" **lmao

[@ReachFilms]

ProRes raw my dude…. Different codec similar name

[@barezina]

@ touché good sir, as you were 🙏 - just another disgruntled a7s3 user here 😂

[@Tobirama_isHimju]

They shouldn't constantly replace cameras it's horrible for consumers.

[@ReachFilms]

This may be a start of a new release strategy for the cinema line

[@LimitlessVisualMedia]

Why do you say that? I would respectfully disagree that it's significantly better for consumers, cameras have been very useable for a while new versions means cheaper cameras for everyone

[@iamalexchua]

We are coming to the end of 2024. No BRAW for Sony yet

[@sqlevolicious]

Just edit prores in premiere, wtf are you talking about.

[@ModernAlphaNetwork]

Amazing video I recently just got my Sony FX3 and I made an unboxing video. It’s up on my KZbin channel.

[@theelifloresshow]

people who use the fx30 pee sitting down.

[@ReachFilms]

What?

[@jfilmzstudio3470]

@theelifloresshow and I’m pretty sure the girl behind you peed on your face

[@abcammym]

Don't anyone buy Sony zv1 useless for walking around jumping all over the place..the stabiliser is useless..I hope the Sony fx30 is better 😅😅

[@ReachFilms]

@@abcammym back when I had the zv1 there was no other options in that price point. Now though yeah I would buy an osmo pocket over it any day