The True Rules Of The Battle City Tournament

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[@InvaderWeezle]

While the anime makes Kaiba the apparent creator of these rules, it's interesting to note that the manga never claims this (the only rules that Kaiba seemed to have a direct hand in were the non-gameplay ones, such as the banlist and wager rules). The rules are simply known as the "Super Expert Rules", seemingly something that was official with Industrial Illusions' game and just wasn't implemented yet during Duelist Kingdom. Prior to Battle City being announced, we see Yugi and Jonouchi dueling in Yugi's hospital room and they're using using the Super Expert Rules, as Yugi tributes two monsters to summon Dark Magician, which proves that the rules already existed in-universe and weren't created specifically for Battle City.

[@InvaderWeezle]

@@rob19ny That's all valid, but my only point was that the manga never claims that Kaiba created the Super Expert Rules like how the anime does.

[@InvaderWeezle]

@@rob19ny Ok but still the manga never claims that Kaiba invented the rules

[@adityairawan1843]

I have my own suspicion about this rule basically created by Industrial Illusions and it came from Gilford the Lightning's effect. Kaiba probably tweaked it for Battle City, but the foundation is still from Industrial Illusions. As we know, Gilford has the effect that if the monster is summoned using three tributes, then it can destroy all monsters the opponent controls upon summoning. As we know as well, Industrial Illusions is in total control of card productions. I doubt Pegasus would create cards usable only in Battle City because in the end, he's still a businessman. With Duelist Kingdom rules, tribute is not needed unless it's a ritual summon, so Gilford's effect text becomes pointless. It's designed for the new rules, not Duelist Kingdom one.

[@InvaderWeezle]

@@adityairawan1843 Good point. There are a few cards that don't make sense without the Super Expert Rules existing. Cost Down and Quick Attack are two more good examples.

[@Avatarbee]

@@rob19ny It is possible that Joey was under a lot of stress so it is not unreasonable to think that he might forget something that has just recently been added. Either that or he saw Yugi tributing and just thought: "Huh, how nice of him to randomly destroy his own monsters."

[@dumbdude3103]

9:54 Honestly I'd say best example was when Pharaoh's and Arkana's Dark Magician's destroyed each other and both duelists quick-played Monster Reborn at the same time.

[@kyuubinaruto17]

Or Kaiba using it to summon Obelisk to protect Lord of Dragons, though that is an odd case, since up to this point, unless in a tag duel, you can't just substitute an attack target with a different monster.

[@GamingTopTen]

My favorite is Yugi setting Pot of Greed as a "trap" to boost Slifer's attack by 2000.

[@ArnulfoSalgado]

@@GamingTopTen in that duel, Kaiba had activated a card that allowed both players to activate all spells as quick play spells from the hand or field. Which seemed redundant

[@YourGuyAlex]

The reason yugi could summon his dmg vs Pandora is because in the manga dark magic curtain says either player can use its effect that turn. Since pandora didn’t know about dmg he wasn’t worried

[@Ramona122003]

That was said in the anime too.

[@aaronsajuthegk2004]

That’s kinda the point everyone thought Yugi cheated. Then again if you calculate real life Brain Control effect of 800 LP in that duel Yugi would have lost if it was in real life

[@delgande]

Was DMG created for yugi as a duelist kingdom prize? I remember them saying DMG was one of a kind but also remember yugi getting her in a booster pack

[@aaronsajuthegk2004]

@@delgande possibly or like every other play in this show involves a new monster to OTK opponent still cool debut though

[@Ramona122003]

@@aaronsajuthegk2004 Brain Control in the manga pre-dates the Yugioh version, so it was nerf in RL.

[@TGSAnime]

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[@ibilesfighter3.16]

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[@Lukman57e]

Good video Sam

[@SpecsTube]

rule 24) sacrificed was spelt incorrectly

[@insanemakaioshin]

There were 53 contenders, because Jean-Claude Magnum had 5.

[@insanemakaioshin]

They should add a modified rule 9 to the real game, where level 9 & 10 require 3 tributes & level 11 & 12 require 4. They should also add a modified rule 24, where any special summoned monster counts as the number of *named* monster materials for tributes, *as long as they're properly summoned first.* This rule also applies to the materials of the special summoned monster. Ex. Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon, Blue Eyes Shining Dragon & Gate Guardian = 3 tributes Majestic Star Dragon = 2 tributes VWXYZ Tiger Catapult Dragon Canon = 5 tributes 5 headed dragon or Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon summoned with Cyber-Stein or BESD summoned with that BEUD = 1 tribute

[@OzbangB]

rule 18 is kinda stated in the duel with Joey Vs Espa Rosa when the whole "you can't activate 2 graceful dice on the same turn" which joey had a graceful dice and a skull dice" but this I think was the only time this was ever explained in the show

[@Netherwolf6100]

*A LIST OF ALL THE RULES* -Participants must have a ranking of at least five out of eight stars (manga and original anime) or level three out of five (English dub anime) to receive a free Duel Disk, which is required to participate. -Players must play with a Deck of at least forty cards, with at least one rare card in it. -Players begin with 4000 Life Points. -Players can only have up to 6 cards in his or her hand unless the card "Infinite Cards" is in play on his/her side of the field. In the manga, the hand limit is 7. -Players have a maximum of five minutes to think during their turn. -One Normal Summon is allowed per player per turn. Monsters can be Summoned in face-up Attack Position, face-up Defense Position or face-down Defense Position. -Level 4 or below monsters can be Summoned during a Normal Summon. -Level 5-6 monsters needed one Tribute in order to Normal Summon. -Level 7-9 monsters required two Tributes to Normal Summon. -Level 10+ monsters required three Tributes to normal summon (e.g "The Winged Dragon of Ra", Level 10). -When a Fusion Monster is Tributed, that monster is counted as a number of monsters equal to the number of Fusion Material Monsters that were used. -Fusion Monsters must wait one turn after they are Summoned before they can attack, though the "Quick Attack" card can be used to circumvent this. In the manga, any monster Ritual Summoned or Special Summoned from the Graveyard also cannot attack the turn it is Special Summoned. -If a player has no monsters on their field, their opponent can attack directly. -Each player must ante at least their rarest card and a minimum of one Locator Card in their possession. The winner of the Duel obtains their opponent's rarest card and Locator Card, as wagered. -The contents of either player's Graveyards are not public knowledge, and an opponent may not look through their opponent's Graveyard. -If you have to discard cards from your hand or Deck, you do not have to show them to your opponent. -You must stick to the tournament's list of forbidden and limited cards. Cards that directly damage[note 1] players or monsters, such as "Raigeki" and "Hinotama" were forbidden. Only one copy of "Monster Reborn" could be included in one's Deck. -Certain cards that enabled players to Special Summon one specific Type of monster(s) can affect both sides of the field ("Dark Magic Curtain" and "The Flute of Summoning Dragon", for example). -Players were not allowed to use two or more Magic Cards of the same name that increase a card's ATK points within the same turn. -The opponent can activate a card or card effect before the turn player draws a card during their Draw Phase. -If a monster is offered as a Tribute by the effect of another card while being attacked by an opponent's monster, the enemy's attack is negated. The Japanese version of the anime and manga calls this rule, "Sacrifice Escape". -Replays are not an established mechanic. While a direct attack is occurring because the attacked player controls no monsters, if the attacked player adds a monster to their side of the field, that monster intercepts the attack; if a monster is targeted for an attack, but it leaves the field before damage calculation, the attack ends. -Players can Set Field Spell Cards in their Spell & Trap Card Zones but when they activate them, they get moved to the Field Zone. -Field Spell Cards can be activated during the Battle Phase. -A non-Quick Play Spell Card can be activated during the Battle Phase. -A Set non-Quick Play Spell Card can be activated during your opponent's turn. -When a Spell or Trap is destroyed by a card effect, it is negated even if the card that destroyed the Spell/Trap doesn't negate its effects. -A monster that becomes an Equip Card is treated as both a monster and an Equip Card. -Effects that require the player and the opponent to have cards in their hand can be activated even if one of the players has no cards in their hand. -Tokens do not take up a Monster Zone. -When a Token is Summoned, it becomes the attack target instead. -When a card is sent to the Graveyard, it is sent to the controller's Graveyard, not the owner's.

[@SenkoVT]

i absolutely love that u can place spell card and as reward for ur strategic thinking and risk u get rewarded by them becoming quick spells. gives the duel more uniqueness and more interaction between each player so its not a 1 sided turn all the time

[@DragoSonicMile]

"Shallow Grave" can be activated even if your opponent has no monsters in their graveyard. "Ring of Defense" only applies to you, not your opponent. You can put your arm over your duel disk to hide your face-up monsters (Mako Tsunami). The Battle Phase can be declared, but immediately taken back to your Main Phase 1 if you don't complete your first declaration of attack.

[@shadowfang269]

Fun fact the Flute of Summoning Dragon play Yugi did in the anime has an IRL reverse equivalent. Flute of Summoning Dragon's effect reads "Special Summon up to 2 Dragon Monsters from your hand. "Lord of D." must be on the field to activate and to resolve this effect." Meaning no matter if you or your opponent has a Lord of D on the field you or your opponent can activate and use Flute of Summoning Dragon's effect.

[@animemixer1]

I can think of at least one instance where the exactly 40 card deck rule was broken. In the Yugi vs Marik finals, Kaiba shows up to give Yugi the Fiend's Sanctuary spell card to counter Ra. He tosses it to Yugi, who looks at it and adds it to his deck. But wouldn't he already have 40 cards going into the duel? He never removes any card, so his deck would now be 41 cards.

[@deletedTestimony]

Kaiba then laughs and says "Yugi you fool, your deck is now illegal. Disqualified"

[@Celtic1020]

Stuff like this happens all the time. They side deck off screen. Otherwise lots of characters would be fucked by the ante rule even if they still had locator cards.

[@animemixer1]

@@Celtic1020 Of course things can happen off-screen. But side decking off-screen means they still likely have 40 cards once done. What Yugi did was just take one extra card and add to his already complete deck without removing any other card, thus making it contain at least 41 cards, not 40.

[@TheDeathmail]

@@animemixer1 Again, the point is that we should probably assume he actually DID remove a card and we just didn't see it...

[@animemixer1]

@@TheDeathmail I went back to the episode in question to make sure I remember everything correctly. And sure enough, Yugi takes the card Kaiba gives him, and all on screen adds it to his deck, shuffles and places the deck back in the duel disk. The duel then starts shortly thereafter. There is no removal of any card at any point. That deck had a minimum of 41 cards at the moment that duel got underway, unless Yugi had just 39 cards in the deck just as the duel was about to start, which would be even more ridiculous than starting the duel with 41 cards. Honestly, like it's mentioned in the video, rules are casually broken here and there. And it might even be that the rule isn't to have EXACTLY 40 cards, but AT LEAST 40 cards, and we're looking at some mistranslation. Even if it's not, Yugi having a 41 card deck as the duel starts is probably the least serious cheat anyone has ever done in the history of Yu-Gi-Oh.

[@WillRennar]

0:32 - "Prima's Official Strategy Guide" Way to make your audience feel old, man. XD

[@nicolasagamez9351]

actually there was a duel in which 2 copies of the same card were activated that turn, when Kaiba and Yugi had their first duel against Lumis and Umbra (without the masks) and Kaiba used two "flute of summoning dragon" bringing 4 dragons at the same time.

[@meisnewperson]

11:05 Kaiba used Quick Attack! It's Super Effective!! Wait...... WHAT!?!?!?

[@NexeL_NKC]

Actually, I just realized something. We see in the "Battle in the Coliseum" duel, Yugi discards Kuriboh to negate EFFECT damage! Obelisk's effect in the anime is "Tribute 2 monsters then inflict 4000 points of damage to your opponent." When Kaiba pretty much forced Obelisk's effect to go through, Yugi discards Kuriboh to make the damage zero. Kuriboh only works on battle damage irl. So, if I'm not mistaken, some damage negation cards/hand traps in the anime, i.e. Kuriboh, can negate both effect and battle damage in Battle City format.

[@miwestraveler3986]

Or perhaps, damage is damage, and there is no difference between battle and effect damage in Battle City. Unless there is an example of the contrary, I don't remember everything.

[@rezeurve3651]

As I remember according to Battle City rules, you are only allowed to activate one spell card directly from your hand and you are only allowed to set 1 spell and 1 trap card per turn. So Kaiba made an illegal move against the two Rare Hunters in the alley. He activated Pot of Greed and then 2 Flutes of Summoning Dragon. The only way to made this play according to Battle City rules is, if Kaiba sets Pot of Greed face down, then activate it and then activate the two Flutes of Summoning Dragon from his hand. This will also only work if the activate only one spell card directly from your hand, did not count for spells of the same name.

[@Sokobansolver]

Remember that one time when Kaiba summoned Obelisk the Tormentor and attacked directly all on the first and only turn, in his own tournament?

[@ARM-jz2qy]

I'm not sure about this one, but apparently there's no Turn Player Priority on the Battle City Tournament, if i recall this correctly, on a tag duel, Yugi and Kaiba vs Lumis and Umbra, at a certain point Yugi attempts to tribute summon on his "Main Phase", but then Lumis responds with "Mask of Restrict", that's something you cannot do on the TCG but apparently you can on the Battle City, on the TCG if you do not start a chain on your Main Phase 1, you have Turn priority, meaning that your opponent cannot activate any card unless you perform an action that starts a chain, attempt to summon a monster, even a tribute summon does not start a chain until the monster hits the field, where you can finally activate cards that can negate the summon (solemn judgment for example), or destroy the card if the summon was succesful (trap hole, torrential tribute, etc), On the TCG, if you know that your opponent is about to tribute summon a monster, the best timing window where you can activate "Mask of Restrict" would be the Draw Phase or the Standby Phase, but not the Main Phase.

[@maryse4me]

2 of the same spell cards in one turn: the first mini “duel” between Lumis/Umbra vs Yugi/Kaiba, Kaiba summons lord of dragons, then uses 2 flutes of summoning dragon to SS 3 Blue Eyes White Dragons and Hyozanryu

[@edwardsuou]

One rule you missed is defusion just like fusion makes the summoned monsters from the fusion one unable to attack. One example is Yugi blocking ultimate blue eyes by dividing him into 3 in the semifinals. So defusing is almost always a defense card you would not want to play on your fusion monster (except if you for some reason want the monster materials on the field) You can also tribute the fusion monster as the number of materials so there is almost no sense in playing defuse on your own monster like Zane does in GX. (In fact I think in GX it’s almost always used to do more attacks).

[@Merdra]

9:30 There was indeed the case that 2 Spell Cards where used in one Turn. It was Kaibas duel against a no name right before he fought iluminis & Umbra in a Tag duel on top of the building. He used two "flute of summoninf dragons" with his Lord of D to special summon 4 additional monsters.

[@scottphillips7795]

When I heard that burn effects with no cost were banned I instantly thought finally sparks is seen as too op.

[@michaelloctor2243]

10:19 yup, that's true with this one. I've never seen any duelist activate their counter trap just before they're destroyed.

[@seprithlicastia463]

I have always seen Dark Magic Curtain and Flute of Summoning Dragons more as a "Anime Card Effect" than a kind of Battly city mechanic.

[@aidinexmachina4232]

5 minute turns? Like without a reset upon a card being played? This sounds like children's card game heaven

[@LunarWingCloud]

Rewatching this I realize how weird it was that everything just managed to fall into place with all the finalists getting the exact 6 locator cards needed to display the map properly

[@themarvelamerica]

The plug for the desk was goddamn fire dude top notch

[@markmorales7958]

Ah yes, Kaibas famous tournament arc “Fortnite: Card Game Edition”…

[@feritfox2318]

with Joey vs Roba when he tells joey that he can't use 2 graceful dice on the same turn.

[@grand_admiral_henrich4416]

It seem the rule of fusion monsters not beeing able to attack, ONLY counts towards monters who were summoned using Polymerisation. Because during Yugi vs Kaiba during the Semi finals he attacked with XYZ dragon Canon the turn it was Contact fusion summoned

[@nervix7096]

Regarding rule 13, the card Question has an effect that says the opponent cannot look at your graveyard when you activate the effect. This might not be a Battle City rule outside of this card effect.

[@ShiningJudgment666]

Well, it makes Question a lot stronger since Graveyards weren't public knowledge in Battle City so they can't trust memory with it. And yes, the real life Question specifically states that otherwise the card would be even more awful.

[@Aupsic-hh5sy]

"My Ultimate White Dragon count as 3 tributes!" Oh Kaiba, ya cheeky bastard.

[@rob-ron4231]

In the duel with kaiba and yugi he usted spell sanctuary And in the sub they explain “I can use spells card during your turn “ And this applies to both players Seethe episode in Japanese kaiba kaiba deadass says it So if there is a explanation Then what about the other times yugi and god know who else where able to do it since they didn’t have spell sanctuary

[@Ogg_Channel]

Those weird and wacky "enviromental bonuses" present in duelist kingdom weren't in battle city. It's up to you if that's a good or bad thing though.

[@cyberserpent1]

9:27 In the first tag duel with Yugi & Kaiba against the rare hunters Kaiba uses two flute of summoning dragons in the same turn. That's the only time I recall this happening but I guess Kaiba is allowed to break his own rules lol

[@Silverlugia1256]

The 40 card limit in battle city wasn't til the finals as mentioned at the beginning those with extra cards had to change their main deck

[@Silverlugia1256]

They could go back to 41-60 in the main finals this was only in the round where it was free for all

[@MrGhosta5]

Back in duelist kingdom they just made up the rules as they went along. The rules didn't really mater as the point of the show was to put yugi in a seemingly unwinnable position and then have yugi come up with some sort of creative solution to win. Which is why we have giant soldier of stone being able to destroy the moon, dark sage being summoned out of thin air, Yugi being able to multiply infinite kuriboh.

[@rk9515]

It was funny to me because Yugioh first aired in 00's and when battle city season came out it was already a year of playing Yugioh. So hearing them making their own rules or come up with some plot armor rules I want laughing my ass off while first watching this season.

[@mythplatypuspwned]

Rule 25 isn't because of Battle City rules, the cards just had different effects in the manga/anime than in the OCG/TCG.

[@TheDeathmail]

I think Rule 25 is wrong. Instead, it was those specific cards that had effects that both players could take advantage of... so it wasn't an actual rule rather than the cards themselves allowing that....

[@tubby_1278]

Season 2 was when most people got into Yu-Gi-Oh! Ahh Marik, Rare Hunters, and the egyptian god cards

[@LanUltra]

Don't know if this is a theory or not but I saw somewhere that Kaiba implemented tribute summon mechanics just so everyone had a chance to use powerful cards since the games, as is was played before, as much as people didn't realise, had some ocult aspects to it. If you weren't considered a top tier/powerful duelist or had the potential to be one you wouldn't even get powerful cards. With the tribute mechanic you could bypass this mystical aspect of the game somewhat.

[@pnyhmsmx]

There was this video that talks about this. Can't remember the channel. But it proposed the idea that tribute summon mechanic was intended to let non magic people be able to play God cards, since only those who had affinity with magic (innate talent or by training) could use magic like Millennium Items and ritual summons. Battle city rules was essentially a reinterpretation of monster battles from Yami Yugi's time as a pharaoh since people's souls were harvested to become monsters. Interestingly obelisk has a blue color frame like ritual monsters

[@pinolyzerproductionsinc.1062]

Rule 25 is definitely some of the biggest plot armor yugi has in this arc

[@ahmad92760]

Arkana (Pandora in the japanese sub) used atleast 3 monster killing spells (all of them were anime exclusive too).

[@derekhobbins7798]

Kaiba and Yugi vs Lumis & Umbra first duel. Kaiba played two flute of summoning dragon to summon three blue eyes and a hyozanryu

[@dinonodi3594]

Yugi activated magic cylinder against Strings, but his revival jam was able to block the effect damage

[@RiverShock]

Magic Cylinder didn't inflict effect damage for the majority of the anime. It turned the opponent's attack into a direct attack on themselves, in much the same way Roulette Spider worked.

[@Funkytowwn101]

i think espa roba said something to joey about using another graceful dice in the same turn

[@devareojackson8682]

Kaiba used two Flute of Summoning Dragon in the same turn during the first tag duel.

[@fruit3193]

What about the four-way duel between the top 4, to determine the semifinals matchups?

[@EJY809]

Kaiba: rules? What are those? Never heard of them.

[@Piikup]

If this was a duelist kingdom rules video this video wouldn't exist

[@pasha956]

Reason tribute was required to summon high level monster was to prevent otk. Imagine summoning God cards on first turn without any tribute and enemy could do nothing to destroy it.

[@weirdogamer2219]

10:28 know I must play battle city duels for the rest of my life

[@rejeneracion027rejeneracio5]

I think in the manga the reason why use the tribute mecánic is because he use the rules of pegasus and only Normal summon obelisk and look that was very broken ._.

[@blackwarwolfdls8303]

I appreciate the effort for bringing us this info. AMAZING RESEARCH ❤

[@tylerpark2489]

omg that explains why kaiba treated xyz dragon cannon as 3 tributes for obelisk when he dueled yugi in the finals

[@Bluelagann45]

I remember kaiba using two flute of summoning dragon cards on the same turn

[@agoodname6997]

I want this made for a dueling simulator and see all the headaches when I activate a normal spell during my opponents turn because I set it.

[@kellym4389]

Now I've seen some smooth transitions but this is definitely in the top 10 👌🏼

[@ClemsContent]

Did Marik win Harpie's Feather Duster when he beat Mai? Or any of Joey's boss monsters when he beat Joey?

[@user_Leo]

Definitely getting myself one of those tables when I get the chance.

[@shane4467]

You should do a video on how the duel played out between Raphael vs Mai seeing it was of screen, wud be really cool to see

[@jalcome4201]

Wait that readjusting table for life points is kinda funny. I got one of those, lemme do it

[@shadownightdragon6524]

Duelist Kingdom at first confuse me because I was like what stopping the duelist from not playing a monster so there opponent can't deal then LP damage. Until I learned they had to summon cus of the rules.

[@ragnarbear9346]

I remember watching battle City when I was a kid but I can't believe there was that many rules in there lol

[@luklucky9516]

Two spell cards one turn in the first duel where kaiba and yugi played against these weed guys kaiba uses the thing to special summon blue eyes twice. I only know the German name sorry but if you watch the duel it's the first turn of kaiba where he summons 3 blue eyes and the other dragon Edit I just looked it ub ist the flute of summoning Dragon that was used twice in a turn

[@markg2701]

Smoothest sponsor transition I've ever seen

[@realitant]

Imagine trying to make a high profile tournament and banning sparks

[@hieloz]

"Screw the rules I have money." - Seto Kaiba

[@phantom115cw]

fusion monsters must wait for 1 turn before attacking, the same goes for ritual monsters right?

[@RamirezR]

Are you gonna do the 5ds tournament rules too?

[@IronMerlin]

The answer might be out there but who exactly were the 48 duelist that participated in the Battle City Tournament?

[@lovethatdarkness]

The rule you forgot to mention: Soul manipulation, torture, and killing are perfectly legal.

[@b3ans4eva]

YGOTAS took the piss out of Kaiba explaining the rules.

[@TheFallinhalo]

Ahhhhhh the ruling that Destruction of a Card also negates said cards effect unless stated, IE built in negation because a card needs to be on the field to resolve its effect, a Ruling i honestly think should be built into the real world game.

[@aztecemperor1536]

Real question: Will you be at the NA YCS in Pasadena CA?

[@christianholzschuh6853]

What's with the oricalcos-dueldisks, like that one a young Raphael dug up? Would he be able to join the tournament?

[@RiverShock]

I would imagine the Duel Disks commissioned for the tournament were probably registered in a database somewhere (with like serial numbers or something). That being said, that database would definitely have been able to be hacked, so I doubt it would stop someone like Dartz from entering someone against Kaiba's wishes if he wanted to. (Hell, the merchant doing registrations for Battle City did something similar already, hacking peoples' ratings to allow them entry when they didn't qualify for the purposes of relieving them of their rare cards, hence how Joey entered despite Kaiba's bias.)

[@alastortheradiodemon1929]

The true rules of battle city Me: Oh so like probably around 5 rules Battle city rules: yes 5...25 Me: wut basically everyone during battle city: I can create a new rule and no one will stop me! Random shenanigans go!!!!

[@izakuchiha94]

would love to see you duel using the anime rule from being to end of The Battle City Tournament. I'll watch that lol

[@ultimatederp1495]

I have a question, when yugioh defeated Arkana it never showed that he took one of the dark magicians from him

[@lewisfairley8642]

If flexibility was a card I would probably own 3 of them and add them to my deck

[@assduhfuhjuh]

Kaiba: Bans burn cards and cards that destroy monsters for no cost. Also Kaiba: Runs Ring of Destruction.

[@lesbianwars]

I think its your best video so far. Its cool that finally somebody has an explenation.

[@DeadSexyAdamCheney]

Your videos got me playing world championship 2007 again for the ds

[@alexanderthunder7623]

This flexisopt desk has an attack and defense position

[@JetTheHawkpwns]

Felt like it was created using polymerization too

[@Leopoldshark]

But can it handle me summoning Gremlin in a Shadow Game and using its ability

[@alexanderthunder7623]

@@Leopoldshark only if you don't feed it at midnight

[@ogen2065]

*Sets it face down*

[@Zetact_]

Kaiba's tribute rule not favoring Blue Eyes or Obelisk might have been for his confidence making him decide to go for a handicap but also could be that he knew going in that he'd have to go up against two other god cards so putting them under restrictions would be a way that he could have a better chance of beating them.

[@goldencalf13]

He had monsters (Kaiser Sea Horse) and spells that made it very easy for him to get out blue eyes without having to worry about extra monsters needed

[@Vidar93]

I feel like it probably was for making sure he didnt get OTK'd by someone with a god card getting it in their opening hand. Could also see it being him wanting to put a regulation so decks weren't just stacked. Could be his making the game more technical thory. Could also be the show runners just wanting to align the show more to the TCG.

[@crono276]

@@Vidar93 Well, in the manga, the god cards had must have 3 tributes, so the tribute mechanic is a lesser version of that.

[@zeospark9715]

Yeah Kaiba has a LOT of cards that allowed him to summon the monsters he wants easily. Kaiser Sea Horse, Soul Exchange, Enemy Controller, etc.

[@TheDeathmail]

I think it was more because he removed the weird abilities that monsters had before Battle City (Kuriboh exploded, Mammoth Graveyard rotted, Attacking the moon, etc) but if he only removed that, then without a nerfing, it'd make winning too easy since Blue Eyes would be a 3000 atk monster that is easy to summon and opponents would have a much harder time countering it. So by giving himself a minor nerf, he justified removing one of the largest threats to his monsters...

[@FGj-xj7rd]

Yugioh DM and its weirdness is a gold mine for TGS Anime.

[@lucazeroblueversion9346]

3:08 when im not dueling in real life i duel on my pc :)

[@cancerstinks1]

The rules were whatever Kaiba wanted them to be. Why? Because he was Seto Fucking Kaiba!

[@phtuber5469]

Screw the rules I have money.

[@Zetact_]

That's why Hinotama was banned yet Card of Demise, Crush Card, Virus Cannon, and other blatantly broken cards that Kaiba just so happened to use weren't.

[@parttimeloverandafulltimef1096]

I wish they will do a game where they have these wacky rules like duelist kindom, nothing is cooler than stabing the moon with a giant made of stone

[@phtuber5469]

@@Zetact_ They are all broken cards, but the most broken cards have to be card of safe return and revival jam, like what the actual hell was Pegasus thinking when he made those cards. Like not even Yugi could win properly against them, so he had to trap the guy in an infinite loop and make him deck out. Seriously wtf Pegasus.

[@Tomy_Lightning]

@@phtuber5469 more screw the rules I own the tournament or I created the tournament or I create them

[@stormdennis9042]

Imagine trying to update the Battle City rules for today's TCG game and how interesting that would be? For example: Any monster summoned from the extra-deck cannot attack the turn it is summoned.

[@randomaccount6146]

@Alex Bergie today's meta is basically otk

[@dylandownie4989]

Huh that rule would screw Zane trues dale over so much with his dueling style

[@pn2294]

In the original manga, Special Summon monsters can’t attack the turn they’re summoned

[@TheFallinhalo]

itd be interesting to see if that ruling would extend to Resurrected Pendulums, there not actually Extra Deck Monsters but reside in the extra deck when defeated.

[@MsMiDC]

Summoning sickness would do nothing if you can set up a cracked board. I mean its just like first turn then, and a lot of decks can make a cracked t1 board

[@GaryJojo]

Honestly, I like the idea of fusion monsters counting as more than one tribute.

[@adityairawan1843]

Tribute / advance summon mechanics might be a lot more popular and widely used if TCG / OCG implemented this rule and extended it to Synchro, Xyz, and Link instead of overcompensating stuff like how True Draco ended up being.

[@nexidal9656]

An idea that never got implemented until Links (as a link-2 can be used as 2 link materials, a link-3 as 3 materials...)

[@brandonvasser5902]

I feel like this would be pretty balanced if it was a player skill you could atleast use. Maybe once per turn. Talking Duel Links.

[@GaryJojo]

@@brandonvasser5902 That would be pretty interesting tbh.

[@nexidal9656]

@@brandonvasser5902 so something like: "Offering to the Gods" [intended to be used with Obelisk and the like. only Kaiba, Atem, and DSOD Kaiba have the skill] Target one fusion monster you control that was special summoned from the extra deck. Until the end of this this turn, that monster can be used as many tributes for a tribute summon as the same number of monsters that were used for that monster's fusion summon. This skill can only be used once per turn. [The original text only mentioned extra deck summoned monsters, but they nerfed it to fusion only to avoid synchro and, mostly, XYZ due to generic materials.]

[@randomanimefan1000]

2 rules exclusive to the manga: A. ALL special summoned monsters cannot attack the turn they are summoned, not just fusion monsters. Hence why Yugi and Kaiba never tried the same monster reborn strat as Marik, Marik got away with it because Ra had a built in quick attack effect. B. Your Monster and Spell/Trap slots are merged and you only have 5 of them, meaning you can only control 5 total Monster, Spell and Trap cards at any given time. Hence why Marik never supplemented his God 5 Slifer strategy with any of the cards he drew

[@pnyhmsmx]

Interesting. Aren't those rules similar to the number of cards played with Kaiba's original duel disk?

[@randomanimefan1000]

@@pnyhmsmx pretty much

[@randomanimefan1000]

@@pnyhmsmx I am actually a little curious now what would of happened if this rule was in place from the start, hard 5 card limit on the number of cards you have. How would that have informed the progression of the card game IRL

[@balistikscaarz1959]

When I was at a camp as a kid we would say we were playing "battle City rules" but it just meant winner gets the loser's rarest card. It was kind of a blood bath of trying to win back each other's stuff

[@PrinceLawless]

A blood bath sounds about right haha!

[@BdelaCAS]

Us too!

[@Emerald_Vizsla]

It was like that in our neighborhood too haha. I lost a Jinzo in a duel and that was painful. He was too good then.

[@Seirra72]

That’s sounds like a lot of tears just waiting to happen

[@williamwinder3466]

That sounds like underage gambling.

[@Spirit_of_Yubel]

It may have been dub-only, but the "Hard One Spell Card of a specific Name" rule was also referenced in Joey (Jounichi) vs. Espa Roba. The Roba brothers on the roof pick out a Graceful Dice card in Joey's hand, and spot him drawing a 2nd "Dice" card they misidentify as another Graceful Dice. When Joey's Graceful Dice gave him an unfavorable roll, Joey started to play his 2nd Dice card, but Espa was saying Joey was pulling an illegal move, saying that since Graceful Dice was already activated, another couldn't be played that turn, before Joey plays his card, revealing "Skull Dice" instead, which rolled in favor of Joey to turn the duel as well as expose Espa's fraud. Also, the 40-card deck rule must be closer to the RL rules of 40-60 cards; Joey vs. Weevil was tampered when Weevil had a random kid plant Parasite Paracide in Joey's deck, bumping his deck to 41 cards. This is also true for Joey vs. Mako when Joey forgot to remove Parasite Paracide from his deck prior to his duel. I'm sure Kaiba's Duel Disks would be able to note the discrepancy and prevent the duels from an "Illegal Deck Count" if there was a strict 40-card limit, yet both continued despite Joey's 41-card deck.

[@drew1429]

You know, I never thought to question it before but was Dark Magician really Yugi's rarest card? I mean it is his signature card so it being the one he is associated with for the tournament is not at all odd but Yugi has a large collection of cards due to living at a game shop. Wouldn't perhaps Black Luster Soldier or Magician of Black Chaos be more rare than Dark Magician? Since no big deal was ever made about the Dark Magician but a pretty big deal was made about those two when he used them.

[@sameash3153]

He actually gave away his one of a kind Duelist Kingdom reward card just before Battle City. That should have been his rarest

[@jamesturner6979]

In the original manga, Ritual and Fusion monsters weren’t physical cards themselves but rather advanced forms of whatever monster was used as the base so Dark Magician for Magician of Chaos and Gaia the Fierce Knight for Black Luster Soldier. Thus Dark Magician is the rarest physical card Yugi had in his deck at that time.

[@gustavomacedo4780]

Magician of Black Chaos and Black Luster Soldier wasn't in Yugi's deck at Battle City tournement.

[@zimonzieclown1633]

@@sameash3153 Yeah, but that wasn't exactly a playable card, was it?

[@ChouRaiyuki]

Don't forget Dark Magician Girl.

[@rainbowdragon168]

There’s one rule I’ve found that wasn’t mentioned in the video: Effects that require the player and the opponent to have cards in their hand can be activated even if one of the players has no cards in their hand.

[@alexisthetransgenderduelis4211]

To be fair, that exist in normal yugioh as well ( but only sometimes because fuck consistent rulings )

[@Gab8riel]

You mean effects that tell you to discard your hand? Or are there any occasions where duelists ignore additional costs that require them to discard an x number of cards?

[@proclarushtaonasat]

i think thats just the anime in general, not just the battle city tournament. little yugi uses the "discard all, to excavate a spell"-spell" in the final duel too. shallow grave can also be activated, if only you have monsters in your grave for example. also you can KO yourself by paying life points.

[@rainbowdragon168]

@@alexisthetransgenderduelis4211 Um ok….

[@rainbowdragon168]

@@Gab8riel No no. It means that a card that lets both players draw cards but the opponent doesn’t have any cards they’re allowed to draw the certain number of cards required. Like for example Card of Sanctity

[@martinhennigan1113]

I always wanted to see Kaiba held accountable for the outrageous carnage of the tournament especially in the Manga. In the span of 24 hours there are muggings, stabbings, kidnappings and attempted murders. There were quite a few successful murders as Yami Bakura murders at least three people. Haga ( Weevil) sprays poison in a kids face. That isn't even mentioning the rampant cheating. Still best arc in the anime and especially the manga.

[@roninwarriorsfan]

I think you made Kaiba's Spell Sanctuary, a continuous spell card that gave all other spells the Quickplay classification in addition to their own rule 20

[@vivienjoly7617]

No all spells can be quickspells in battle city, but i think it's only in the battle phase, Joey uses Shield and Swords in weevil's battle phase for exemple

[@computernerd1101]

@@vivienjoly7617 If you watch the Japanese dub, roninwarriorsfan is right, however this does sound redundant. From what I can tell, Season 3 changed the rules from Season 2 for no apparent reason, but the effect of Spell Sanctuary changed them back.

[@vivienjoly7617]

@@computernerd1101 spell sanctuary is only activated during the yugi/kaiba duel, and the characters activate their spell cards as quickspells during all the arc, but like i said, i think they only use them during the battle phase of the 2 players

[@TrueBladeSoul]

@@vivienjoly7617 I think spell sanctuary let use spells from there hand during either players turn

[@vivienjoly7617]

@@TrueBladeSoul yes you're absolutely right, but like i said, it was only used during the yugi/kaiba duel and other players activate normal spell cards during the other players turns during battle city

[@nhannguyentrong1334]

I think u miss a rule: Rule 26: De-fusion can stop the battle phase The evidence is in the duel between yugi and kaiba in the semi finals when yugi uses de-fusion on blue eyes ultimate. Ending kaiba's battle phase and winning him the duel next turn. You could say yugi put those blue eyes in defense mode but then yugi deals damage with dark paladin the next turn by attacking those blue eyes

[@snowboundwhale6860]

Considering the "Fusion monsters count as a number of tributes equal to the number of invested fusion materials" ruling, I wouldn't be surprised if declaring an attack with a fusion monster also counted as having declared attacks for each of it's materials; When Ultimate Dragon attacks, it counts as all 3 Blue-Eyes having attacked, so when Ulti gets Defused mid attack back into 3 dragons, none of them can proceed to attack further because "they all already attack this turn when they were Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon".

[@godsman00]

Interestingly enough, that's not a battle city rule, but an anime rule. After all, how many times has a GX character *cough* Jaden *cough* used defusion mid battle like this? So yeah it is a shenanigan, but not exclusively a battle city one.

[@bobmaloney9850]

@@godsman00 as far as I am aware jaden has used de-fusion both offensively and defensively but never broken the rules of fusion (apart for the whole d-hero banishment thing but that may be a anime rule)

[@dragonknight1560]

@@godsman00 He did it during his first fight against the Sacred Beasts.

[@debreas6207]

@@dragonknight1560 yet, is the de-fusion only battle city since yugi used that against Noah to score the win? So was it a battle city rule or anime? If anime then did Noah’s duels in the virtual world due to duel masters basically had their own rules outside of choosing the duel master (blanking on actual name, sorry)

[@NeptunII]

anime rules are all a bit weird, because they have the impossible task of adapting the crazy stuff from the manga while still advertising the real life cardgame. In the manga you could only play one spell and one trap from your hand per turn, in the same way that you can only summon one monster. That's why Espa wasn't worried about Joey's two Graceful Dices, he can only play one, with the twist being that the other card was Skull Dice, a trap card. The rule didn't exist in the real life game though and fillers had everybody play many more spells, so they changed the exact details up into players not being able to play the exact same card twice per turn.

[@NeptunII]

in fact, the anime had to go further and actually make Skull Dice a spell card because otherwise the Roba-brothers would have been able to tell that it was a different card from the classic pink border

[@captaincaterpie]

this is actually incorrect.1) skull dice was a spell in the manga, and 2) espa wasnt worried because the fact that joey couldnt play two graceful dices, because only one graceful dice can be used a turn. this stops joey from using two graceful dice at the same time and boosting swordsman of landstar by 12 if he gets lucky.

[@TheDeathmail]

Actually, I don't think the anime had to advertise the card game... the card game instead was advertisement for the anime.... I think Yugioh gave more focus on the actual card game more after 5ds... like, they still cared somewhat, but during the Gx and 5ds era, the shows existed to be shows rather than just advertisement. They weren't fully bound by the rules of the Konami Card game yet and seemed to have some freedom from it.

[@elijahpadilla5083]

@@captaincaterpie Since Chains don't exist in the anime, wouldn't anime Graceful Dice be impossible to activate twice on one monster anyway? Given that its requirement is to target a monster with 500 or less ATK, and ny resolving it will almost invariably multiply a monster's ATK higher than that.

[@Amitlu]

@@elijahpadilla5083 It doesnt matter anyway since there is no way to use Graceful Dice on the same monster twice. The anime version of that spell only works on monsters with 500 atk or less.

[@thefurkage]

You forgot a rule if you play pot if greed you have to say what it does lol

[@pn2294]

8:42 In the manga, you could only activate one spell and one trap per turn, so that may be why. You also weren’t allowed to have more than five cards on the field at a time.

[@Mechagodzilla128]

Yami Bakura had more than 5 cards on the field. He had to for his destiny board to work.

[@elijahpadilla5083]

@@Mechagodzilla128 Destiny Board was just one card in the anime/manga. It just spelled out DEATH if you let it sit there long enough.

[@Mechagodzilla128]

@@elijahpadilla5083 In the episode he uses a card for each letter and needs to have a space in his duel disk to play them. I recommend watching it again, good duel.

[@kurisupikurimu1866]

​@Mechagodzilla128 old comment, but in the manga it's just 1 card; the anime changed it to he more like the real game