The True Effects Of The Egyptian God Cards

[@TGSAnime]

Hello from the future, would like to add that All of the God Cards have the effect: if summoned to the field in defence during the declaration of an opponents attack. That attacking monster must attack the summoned god card.

[@yallajalla2068]

Kinda wish they'd reprint them out the way they were in the show. In today's meta it wouldn't surprise me

[@johngentley5015]

not true, didn't Marik summon Ra in attack mode with the phoenix ability during the duel with Atem? Then Slifer's attack was absorbed by Ra

[@jack.marston97]

Nope. This effect has nothing to do with the gods. It's battle city rules lol. It literally states, if a God Card was summoned in def while ur opponent is attacking, the attack switches to them xd

[@joshuacorless1233]

We’re do banish monsters go to when they are destroyed in yu gi oh

[@scarlet__eye9489]

The shadow realm (to the side of the play area in the game, they are no longer in play so are removed from the field)

[@BigBlueandWhite]

Imagine going to tournament "I sacrifice two bodies for the Obelisk" and then you slap your opponent while saying "And opponent shall be damaged!"

[@jameswhite8345]

Simply amazing needs to be added at least to mtg cracked set

[@killiancraftofcraftyworks975]

*sacrificed two innocent standbys, then slap opponent* like that?

[@ghassanalmaktari7968]

Maybe emotional damage 😂😂😂😂

[@ClericOfPholtus]

Judges! This player is getting aggressive and I move they be disqualified. Judges?

[@morekiemadness3880]

Summons winged dragon of ra. (Pulls out flamethrower) those who face it in war shall be incinerated

[@rifatbobos]

TCG/OCG Ra : *was made into 3 different cards Manga Ra : "Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of my power"

[@TheDeathmail]

To be fair, putting up all the effects of the real cards would be for the real world TCG adaption.... the real world is more limited than the canon...

[@Shugunou]

@@TheDeathmail True, but they did manage to do well in the WCS version. It was something like "Requires 3 tributes to normal summon. Cannot be normal set. Gains the combined ATK and DEF of the monsters tributed for its normal summon. Cannot be targeted by card effects. When this card is special summoned from the graveyard, you can activate 1 of these effects. 1. Reduce your life points to 1 and this card gains ATK equal to the amount of life points paid. 2. Pay 1000 life points to destroy 1 monster on the field. During the end phase of the turn this card was special summoned, send it to the graveyard." They could have easily given it those effects on special summon (changing it from 1 lifepoint to 100) as well as the one where it gains the ATK/DEF of the tributed monsters. It could also be made to be untargetable by effects like Obelisk. Add those things to the effects all the real life gods have and it would be perfect. Not meta defining or broken since it came out pretty late, but definitely playable and not necessarily the worst of the 3.

[@ssj4jason737]

Manga/Anime

[@eviloverlordgamingminion8793]

@@TheDeathmail I mean have you seen some of the stuff they made recently it a wall of text of effects now I could see all three form of ra on one card nowadays

[@norrisjohnson6032]

@@Shugunou true

[@NickferZev]

The effects of the God Cards are easy to figure out compared to guessing which spells and traps affect them, since the Yugioh writers did whatever they pleased in that aspect.

[@zdelrod829]

And because Plot armor has to exist

[@koalafromtomorrow5656]

Guess you right

[@rickytorres4213]

Monster reborn and pyramid of light.. Everything else is one turn or not at all

[@Isolated_Inception]

Its easy, tosa 92 coins, on the night of a full moon in the 13th hour of a tuesday while you have a full field. If at least 91 of the coins land on their side's then the card can effect the god cards

[@royroy3]

Oh so like the writers of Batman's utility belt 🤣👍

[@faereman]

The god cards should've been kept broken even if it meant being put on the ban list forever. They could still be used for casual duels, like a lot of us did as kids with those illegal and/or fake blue/yellow/red god cards.

[@Divine_Serpent_Geh]

I absolutely 100% agree with you. I mean... they are GOD cards ffs!

[@darkraidisciple8717]

I remember my friend had all 3 of them in his deck. I kept using Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch to make him discard them and deal 1000 damage each time because I could tell what cards they were due to the different colour backs.

[@xpurefantasy]

@@darkraidisciple8717 you are an evil one

[@thrakerzad5874]

yeah i agree, it woulda been better to get unsuppressed but forbidden god cards rather than the suppressed incarnations of the god cards we did get.

[@TioFranTV]

I would like to see a modern version of then, tree finisher monters, powerhouses that when you manage to summon one of theb, the opponent knows they are fucked. And everyone could be a different summon type, like Slyfer syncro, Obelisk XYZ and Ra... I don't know with Ra, maybe link, fusion or some new type of summoning (or just pendulum and mantaing the sacrifice part)

[@WilliamReginaldLucas]

I love how the owner tends to interpret the effects in a way which reflects their personality, such as Obelisk representing Kaiba's power and Marik's strategy of sending Ra to the graveyard to bring it back as he's a gravekeeper

[@TheReaperofHades]

Guess that explains how Yugi defeated the Gods. Through shenanigans, Magnet Force converted Slifer's Second Mouth Ability to an effect via Trap, allowing it to somehow effect Ra as well and destroy it.

[@a.jperez202]

No, the anime just straight up disregards the mangas concept of the divine hierarchy. This is seen clearly in the anime's duel between yami marik and yugi. In the manga when yugi attacked with obelisks infinite attack effect, it does not work due to Ra being a higher rank. In the anime this is simply cut out and replaced with Marik activating a spell card that negates Obelisk's attack.

[@Tomarrak]

Yugi defeats Obelisk by using brave attack to combine his magnet warriors strength against that Teddy Roosevelt looking oricalcos guy.

[@chendror872]

@@a.jperez202 and in this case the anime makes more sense

[@a.jperez202]

@@chendror872 how so?

[@chendror872]

@@a.jperez202 simple, the divine heirachy is bs

[@supermintsoda743]

An easier way to implement the "Divine hierarchy" without adding an entire new mechanic would be to use the following effect. "Unaffected by other card effects, ---except the effects of DIVINE monsters.--" By leaving that last bit out for Ra, you've created the same situation with alot less words. You could also leave it in since the anime had the 3 mostly equal in power. We can also take some liberties with the effects and ignore fringe examples and inconsistencies in the anime. So the effects would be. (Universal) Requires 3 tributes to normal summon and can't be normal set. The Normal summon of this card cannot be negated. This card is unaffected by other cards effects (except the effects of DIVINE monsters), and cannot be tributed by your opponent. During the End phase, if this card was Special Summoned, send it to the graveyard, or if it was summoned from the hand, return it to the hand. (Obelisk specific) When this card declares an attack, you can tribute 2 other monsters you control; Destroy all monsters your opponent controls. "In this case the 4000 damage would just be Obelisks attack" (Slifer specific) This card gains 1000 ATK and DEF for each card in your hand. If your opponent summons a monster, in Attack position reduce it's ATK by 2000. If your opponent summons a monster, in Defense position reduce it's DEF by 2000. If a monster's ATK or DEF is reduced to 0 by these effects, destroy it. (Ra Specific) This card gains ATK/DEF equal to the total respective ATK/DEF of the monsters tributed to Normal Summon it. If this card is Summoned, you can pay LP until you have 1 left; This card gains ATK/DEF equal to the amount paid. (Quick Effect) You can tribute 1 monster you control; This cards gains ATK/DEF equal to the tributed monsters ATK/DEF. If this card is Special Summoned from the Graveyard, you can tribute it; Special summon 1 "The Winged Dragon of Ra - Phoenix Mode" from your hand, deck, or Graveyard. (Phoenix Mode) Must be Special summoned by the effect of "The Winged Dragon of Ra" and cannot be special summoned by other ways. (Insert universal god effect here). Cannot be destroyed by battle. You take no damage from battles involving this card. If this card Attacks, you can pay 1000 LP, and if you do, destroy all monsters you opponent controls. Wordy but probably the best way to implement them in the card game without needing their own rulebook. They'd actually be pretty usable beyond casual duels too. New Slifer is a nasty floodgate, Obelisk is a better Qli Towers, and Ra becomes an OTK machine. Konami can print all the janky support they want but what the gods really need is proper retrains.

[@HolyLightofAngel]

egyptian gods would be meta if this existed lol 😆

[@johnwalker1058]

Pegasus should hire you to work for Industrial Illusions. Meanwhile, in real life, I wish something like this was implemented in the TCG.

[@RenaldyCalixte]

@@johnwalker1058 If only Industrial Illusions existed in real life.

[@bandicoot2ps1]

If they gave them an errata that makes the tribute summon of them a special summon instead of a normal summon that would make them so much easier to get on the field. That plus a search card would make them usable and useful(especially slifer) without making them broken

[@redmage808]

I wish the god cards got retrains ro reflect their anime counterpart, maybe one day we'll get just that

[@akumayoxiruma]

The "Ancient Language" which Ra's card is written in is Hieratic - the cursive writing system of Ancient Egyptian circa 4000 to 5000 years ago.

[@tommoore2012]

Neat.

[@ozmond]

Ok

[@a.jperez202]

Its worth noting that there are differences with the abilities and protections the god cards have between the anime and manga. Also the Divine hierarchy does not exist in the anime, only in the manga. Some points I want to touch on: -Requiring 3 tributes to normal summon was a byproduct of battle city rules regarding 10 star monsters(except for Ra it seems, since 3 tributes are specified in its text). In the manga, before battle city rules were implemented, Kaiba play tested Obelisk vs the duel computer and he normal summoned it without any tributes. In the anime, this duel is changed a bit by already having battle city rules implemented. -In the anime we see some spell and trap effects affect them for multiple turns. For example, The Seal of Orichalcos permanently boosted Obelisk's attack by 500 points. This lasted for several turns until Obelisk left the field. Also, Nightmare Steel Cage prevented Slifer from attacking and using its second mouth attack for 2 turns as well during yugi vs strings. Also in R, Swords of Revealing Light prevented The Wicked Avatar(of the same divine rank as Ra)from attacking for multiple turns, forcing Tenma to destroy the swords. This was explained by saying the swords affected the whole field, not just 1 monster. The same would probably apply to the seal. Lastly, during the anime's ceremonial battle, Obelisk's effects were permanently negated and its attack points permanently reduced by little yugi's trap card Ground Erosion. This was explained as working because the trap card did not target Obelisk. So non targeting effects can apparently bypass their (only for 1 turn) immunity, as well as cards specially tailored to work with god cards like Divine Evolution and Mound of the Bound Creator. -We see atleast 1 spell successfully destroy a God card. Ragnarok during yami marik vs yugi successfully destroyed Ra. It was also strongly implied that Ishizu's trap Blast held by a Tribute would have destroyed Obelisk. Ishizu, the original holder of obelisk saw an alternate future where it happened, and even Marik, a god card holder himself, believed it was going to work. And for the sake of completeness, The Pyramid of Light trap card permanently banished all three god cards on the field. -We see at least one instance where a non-divine monster effect worked on a god. Kaiba's Sword of Soul boosted Obelisk's attack points by 1000 during his duel with yugi. -They can be destroyed by battle with an ordinary monster. In the manga Obelisk was destroyed in battle with Silent Swordsman during the ceremonial duel. In the anime, Alpha, Beta, and Gamma the magnet warriors were able to destroy Obelisk by battle, in concert via the effect of Brave Attack. In R, The wicked Eraser(an evil god card) was destroyed by battle with Joey's monster(Gilford, iirc). -In the anime, during the ceremonial duel, the Pharaoh special summoned Slifer from his hand and it remained on the field for several turns until it was destroyed by little yugi redirecting its own effect towards itself. So it seems in the anime its special summon limitation only applies to being special summoned from the graveyard. A few more things to add to Obelisk and Ra's effects. Obelisk could activate its effect and attack during the opponen's battle phase as well. With Ra's one turn kill and phoenix mode effects, it could also attack on the opponent's turn. In the manga, Ra possessed an ability called quick attack that the other gods did not possess. It meant that it could attack on the same turn that it was special summoned. This rules restriction involving special summoned monsters did not exist in the anime, so this was changed to Ra just being able to attack even if there was an effect which prevented monsters from attacking.

[@D-Havoc]

Very informative. And it's interesting finding out just how different the Manga went from the anime even with certain gameplay rules. It makes me wish Konami leaned more onto the manga me mechanics of the cards.

[@DarthPyrusTheVirus]

If I recall, Ragnarok in the manga was Magical Dimension, which seemed to loophole Ra's protection by acting as an effect and attack at the same time. I'm not sure what Ragnarok was supposed to be or why it worked... I'm assuming Blast Held was also a way to bypass Obelisk's protection by being "inherited" and not exactly "targeting" him? Or whatever. As for non-targeting effects, it's kind of a toss-up, isn't it? Mirror Force got punched through by Obelisk in the anime, and that's a wide removal card. Spellbinding Circle trapped Slifer but only for one turn, so Traps DO apparently work even if they target, but they cannot destroy a God. I'm assuming that's where the blanket "cannot be destroyed by effects" comes from, so something like Dark Hole wouldn't work to get rid of the Gods.

[@a.jperez202]

@@DarthPyrusTheVirus Yeah, Ragnarok's effect was just, "If you control 2 spellcasters, Banish every monster in your deck and graveyard and destroy every monster on your opponent's field". So like a shitty Raigeki basically. In the Manga, Dimension Magic induced a battle, and basically gave 2 magicians the same ability that Phoenix Ra had, which was to destroy any monster by battle regardless of atk points and without applying damage to lifepoints. I should note that in the manga(in contrast to the anime), the god cards immunity to effect removal was never put to the test besides with blast held by a tribute which was averted. Generic board wipes with no stipulations or costs like raigeki were banned. We are told in the manga that a gods attack would not meet the trigger for a trap card's activation, with some exceptions like Jam defender. So mirror force would not even have the opportunity to activate. Though traps with no trigger conditions could be activated in response to a gods attack, like little yugi's Crumbling axe vs obelisk. Spellbinding circle could fall in this camp, but im not sure.

[@dolphinpower1107]

Very informative

[@defender2222]

Thank you for this. I am frankly shocked at the number of mistakes TGS made in this video as I have counted 5 wrong effects for the god cards, one iffy effect, and one I can't find any basis for. Wrong Effects: Divine Hierarchy, Can't leave the field via effects, can't be destroyed in battle, you take no battle damage, effected by cards for only one turn. Iffy Effect: Control can not be changed. The proper way to state this is that they can't be changed via any of your opponent's card effects as Ra DID change control to Marik even though Mai correctly summoned it due to not knowing the chant. No Basis: I can not find any instance of a duelist trying to tribute a god card their opponent controlled. This is brought up on the wiki but not the reason why.

[@Mr_Wholegrain]

Anime effect cards are like when kids are playing and one pretends to shoot the other and the kid goes, "BANG! You're dead!" For the second kid to respond with, "Nuh uh! I have a forcefield!" To then end with the first kid replying back with, "You can't do that, my gun shoots through forcefields!"

[@thelaughingman6975]

2nd kid: My force field disables your guns abilities

[@Mooinator3000]

@@thelaughingman6975 my gun can't be disabled

[@Draco-pn7ru]

@@Mooinator3000 Well I have bullet proof armor then, what will you say next? Make a counter ->

[@snivygreen2216]

@@Draco-pn7ru well my bullet is unaffected by bulletproof armor

[@altreon3608]

@@snivygreen2216 "well my force field is on another level than other force fields"

[@Unknown-id4cx]

Kaiba: *Bans a card that deals 500 points of damage from battle city* Also Kaiba: *Plays a card that deals 4000 points of damage*

[@brandoncastellano1858]

To be fair, you have to tribute about 5 cards just to do it, vs playing hinotma straight from your hand no questions asked.

[@anthonyt4154]

Hinotama on Battle City banlist haha

[@rynobehnke8289]

@@anthonyt4154 No seriously even Sparks was on it as Kaiba banned all pure burn damage cards. If you want cards with burn damage than does it better also do something else.

[@dancorneanu9144]

@@rynobehnke8289 He is really petty.

[@byronlyons3548]

Either really petty, or Kaiba wants no one to one shot Marik, who decides to Fusion Mode, and forgets to have a De-Fuse on hand when someone decides to play smart. Just so he can fight Marik himself, either before or after fighting Yugi.

[@MrEffectfilms]

Actually it makes sense how Atem and Marik knew what their god cards can do. Marik had studied Ra and his abilities to understand and make copies of it, and Atem played against and defeated Slifer and saw what his powers were. Only Seto was allowed to interpret the meaning of his god cards effects.

[@emotbagga2646]

wrong, he used google translator

[@eavyeavy2864]

​@@emotbagga2646unfunny kid. L

[@dgarrard100]

I always thought, when you activated Ra's "fusion mode", you could _choose_ how much LP to give it, and Yami Marik just went all-in because that's his play style. I could be completely off on that, though.

[@sigiligus]

No, you’re right. That’s just how convoluted the effects for these cards are in the series.

[@LigerLordX]

All the cards should just say, "Screw the Rules , I have a God card!"

[@majesticgothitelle1802]

Screw your god...! I got exodia in my hand kaiba.

[@bluelanternguardianangel8038]

What is a god........ to a non believer?! *gets obliterated by Phoenix mode* Marik: do you believe now? Lol

[@neojay7522]

Kaiba: Uh-huh... So cool...

[@majesticgothitelle1802]

Me: marik you fool you left me with one life point and now I win. Exodia Obliterate...!

[@idosarts_and_krafts]

Yeep that's kaiba!

[@georgelopes4589]

I love the concept of Ra tackling fusion monster archetypes, being the only monster that allows you to fuse with it's user. it's such a fun, original concept completely tossed aside by the tcg.

[@whothis5810]

They should have just went full gusto for the Egyptian god cards since they didn't release them until after the first yugioh anime.

[@meatheadofatf2player187]

But they would have had to fit so much text on the card.

[@Hiramekiza]

@@meatheadofatf2player187 The back of the card exists. LOL

[@MontyJojo]

Pretty sure the tag force games had playable god cards that were very close to the anime counterparts, before the real world versions came into existence

[@DarthPyrusTheVirus]

Yep, which makes one wonder why Konami couldn't just use those effects. They were strong but not OP, and especially today that wouldn't even be competitive. Then again, making weak God Cards (because people will buy them out of nostalgia alone) and then "buffing" them with a hundred accessory cards means more money, so maybe this was their plan all along.

[@zad_rasera]

@@DarthPyrusTheVirus They made the supports like a decade later. I feel like they really just messed up and over-balanced them.

[@byronlyons3548]

Yeah, I think this was the case for the World championship games, like the 2007 and 2008, that I ended up using the Action Replay to get. And with how Ra ended up having the tributed monsters combined attack and defense, this was definitely how they were, before having the tcg versions to go off of.

[@norrisjohnson6032]

@@DarthPyrusTheVirus I thought it was a plan all along too.

[@Terminatorskull30]

So, question about Ra's effect I never thought of before. If Ra gains attack/defense based on the monsters tributed to summon it, and also for the life points you pay, I wonder why they reduce it's attack to zero in the defusion effect. For example, lets say you sacrifice 3 monsters with 1000 attack each, then sacrifice 2000 lifepoints for a total of 5000 attack. Once u do the defusion effect you'd go back up to 5000 life points, even though you started with 2000 right? Could have been an interesting strategy, sacrificing the god's power to make yourself stronger. Also could be interesting if they only refunded your lifepoints sacrificed (in the above case Ra would drop from 5000 to 3000 attack, your life points would go up by 2000) so that even after the defusion it isn't totally useless.

[@adriannaranjo4397]

Yeah that's pretty much would happen with the anime effect

[@KaoruMzk]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the “fusion” effect can only be activated if Ra was special summoned no? meaning no tributes were used so his attack would be zero.

[@ettoreozzy9932]

to be fair even after defusion you can still tribute monsters to power up Ra so it's not useless 0 ATK

[@Tomarrak]

In the anime Marik gained more life points than he paid because he kept powering up Ra with other monsters.

[@SuperNickid]

@Terminatorskull30: If the anime effect of Wing dragon of ra really work the way mention above, then it would work like this when you used de-fuse mode you would get the 2000 life point back, and does monster back as well for a complete de-fuse. However he made a mistake and Ra's anime effect is not fusion mode, and de-fusion mode. When Marik Special summoned Ra, he put all of his life points except 1 life points into Ra, and then he also tributed other monster to increase Ra's attack even more. de-fusion was put face-down during that same turn, and because it was a quick play he cannot activated this turn, so when he attack with Ra, because magic cylinder would have make marik lose the duel, so he discard de-fusion from face-down on the field to activated Ra's ability to put all the attack point as life points, In order to proof he was not cheating he had to reveal de-fusion and people misrepresented that as activating the card. For the same reason people thought they where activating monster reborn during the opponent turn to special slifer the sky dragon so slifer the sky dragon can protect obelisk the tourmentor. Monster reborn was discarded from hand or field to activated that effect.

[@Hartsinck1]

Actually Yugioh GX makes it clear that all of Ra’s special abilities can be activated regardless of if he is special or normal summoned. Also Ra’s Phoenix ability allows him to destroy every monster on the field.

[@sabener6255]

Bro the manga takes the cake it's the true source. Gx only takes the duel monster anime with its filler.

[@jeandehuit5385]

Not all the YGO series are equally canonical. What happens in GX does not inform the manga; by the same token, what happens in 5D's does not inform what the GX manga does. They were all written by different writers working under different conditions (the original manga presented a totally original game; the DM anime adapted the manga; all the other series offer more-or-less conflicting interpretations of the OCG/TCG).

[@meliodasv.f.9836]

Still all of ra’s ability can be activated without being special summoned except for phoenix mode, and as u said phoenix destroys all monster on the enemy’s side of the field. The mangaka never used Ra in a duel again because it was too powerful

[@gx_pro2277]

Just curious whatare the manga effects for ra​@@sabener6255

[@seelkamoon4481]

The God cards as secondary type: Slifer: *roar Obelisk: *battlecry noises Ra: * beep boop

[@cliffturbo2146]

So Ra's an egyptian robot

[@NeroLucifarious]

Its a transformer

[@faereman]

Ra is basically a bakugan

[@tigerwarrior1787]

It came through the Stargate?!

[@firepuppies4086]

A girl on a motorcycle takes offense to that last one

[@WolfhoodRecords]

The Slifer's 2000 points reducer in anime is also viewed as kind of attack, i remember once someone used some attack-block card vs his effect and it worked, not only creature effect

[@JaimeD.]

Slifer the Sky Dragon is my personal favorite, not just being the 2nd Egyptian God Card summoned in the Yu-Gi-Oh! Battle City Tournament Arc. It's ability to deal 2000 points of damage to a monster when they are either in attack or in defense position once they are summoned is very cool.

[@dancorneanu9144]

It could be really powerful in real life. Most monsters used for combos are under 2000. Most of them don't have immunity to destruction. Go first, summon Slyfer, and your opponent will have to find a way to bypass their monsters being ripped apart.

[@elderliddle2733]

Nice theory, but the bit about the Divine beast type and divine attribute immunities was shown in Yugi’s duel with Strings. Yugi tried to use spell and trap effects like spellbinding circle and it only worked for one turn. Also for Slifer’s mouth attack, it is shown in the same duel that it does in fact destroy monsters with 2000 or less attack. The infinite loop is triggered by this effect as Revival Jam is repeatedly destroyed due to Slifer’s mouth attack, and Strings is forced to draw 3 cards due to Card of Safe Return. Safe Return activates it’s effect when a monster is special summoned from the graveyard. Yami Yugi merely mastered what he had observed in his duel with Strings.

[@Intrepid_Explorer]

Here's my take on "retraining" the God cards to give them more of their anime effects/protection, while still keeping them somewhat realistic: Retrained Osiris: (This card's name is always treated as "Slifer the Sky Dragon".) Requires 3 Tributes to Normal Summon (cannot be Normal Set). This card's Summon cannot be negated. When Summoned, cards and effects cannot be activated. Your opponent cannot Tribute this face-up card on the field, control of this card cannot switch, and it is unaffected by your opponent's Spell/Trap effects and by activated effects from any monster whose original Level/Rank is lower than this card's current Level. Once per turn, during the End Phase, if this card was Special Summoned: Send it to the GY. Gains 1000 ATK/DEF for each card in your hand. If a monster(s) is Normal or Special Summoned to your opponent's field in Attack or Defense Position, that monster(s) looses 2000 ATK or DEF respective to its position, then if its ATK or DEF has been reduced to 0 as a result, destroy it. Retrained Obelisk: (This card's name is always treated as "Obelisk the Tormentor".) Requires 3 Tributes to Normal Summon (cannot be Normal Set). This card's Summon cannot be negated. When Summoned, cards and effects cannot be activated. Your opponent cannot Tribute this face-up card on the field, control of this card cannot switch, and it is unaffected by your opponent's Spell/Trap effects and by activated effects from any monster whose original Level/Rank is lower than this card's current Level. Once per turn, during the End Phase, if this card was Special Summoned: Send it to the GY. Once per turn, you can Tribute 2 other monsters; destroy all monsters your opponent controls with ATK less than this card's and inflict 4000 damage to your opponent. You cannot conduct your Battle Phase the turn you activate this effect, also for the rest of the turn after this effect resolves, your opponent takes no damage. Retrained Ra: (This card's name is always treated as "The Winged Dragon of Ra".) Requires 3 Tributes to Normal Summon (cannot be Normal Set). This card's Summon cannot be negated. When Summoned, cards and effects cannot be activated. Your opponent cannot Tribute this face-up card on the field, control of this card cannot switch, and it is unaffected by your opponent's Spell/Trap effects and by activated effects from any monster whose original Level/Rank is equal to or lower than this card's current Level. This card's ATK/DEF become the combined ATK/DEF of the monsters Tributed for its Summon. You can pay any amount of LP in increments of 100; this card gains ATK/DEF equal to the amount of LP paid. When Special Summoned this card gains these effects: •This card is unaffected by other cards' effects and cannot be destroyed by battle, you take no battle damage from battles involving this card, also once per turn, during the End Phase: Send it to the GY. •(Quick Effect) Once per turn you can pay 1000 LP to send all monsters your opponent controls to the GY (cards and effects cannot be activated in response to this effect's activation).

[@JesusARuiz-sx5pw]

I think Obelisk’s special effect should be infinite attack like it was in the anime

[@babrad]

This makes Gods lose to any link monster in the game. But if you change it to " and it is unaffected by monster effect, except from monsters whose original level/rank is equal or higher than this card's current level." It works exactly the same but future proofs the cards.

[@mackansw]

I like how you integrated Phoenix mode into Ra

[@mrdude88]

Obliesk is still too strong. If I have 2000 LP and a Ra with 5000 Atk, Obliesk will still run over Ra with his effect. Ra is still the weakest of the trio. Even more since it loses the ability to destroy monsters unless it’s special summoned And the executive Vice President didn’t change except for protection. And they can all still be Kaiju’ed.

[@a.jperez202]

You gave them more protection than they ever had in the anime. None of the god cards were ever unaffected by spell/trap effects, and nothing was ever said about their summon not being able to be negated.

[@bamstarful]

The "redirect attack" was a Battle city rule: if a monster is attacked by another monster but the targeted monster is removed from the field then the attack is negated/misses it target and if a monster is summoned during a declaration of a attack that summoned monster becomes the new target of that declared attack

[@chendror872]

Isn't that the case irl too?

[@andrejv.2834]

@@chendror872 if the number of monsters on the field changes, or if a monster leaves the field and a new one replaced it, you can decide if you want to attack again or not

[@johnlucas2838]

There is Battle Replay within the game we play, which is different from the Anime/Manga's Battle City Rules, Sacrifice Escape being one of these rules. Battle City doesn't have Battle Replay, though this resurrection interception thing must either be related to the gods or when they didn't have any monsters to protect themselves...

[@azizkomutan4786]

Not really, there were scenarios not only in BC where player uses defusion on his monster and the opponents attacking monster has no target and cant attack again.

[@sungod9797]

@@chendror872 no lol… look up “replay” for both cases

[@mlmf2012]

In an old yu gi oh videogame "something something 2007" was the name, ra does indeed get the attack points of the tributed monsters. I remember sacrificing three monsters and got ra up to 15,000 atk.

[@EustassGamer]

The only effect i would cut is the "can't be destroyed by battle and battle damage" effect, to give people the chance to beat them "fairly" in a combat

[@jwatson15]

Also it would be kinda symbolic. The other monster literally surpassed a god, at least in one aspect, and deserves to destroy it.

[@Tomarrak]

The gods can be destroyed by battle. It's happened multiple times in the anime.

[@DraconicDuelist]

Yeah, that one was pretty dumb.

[@6dm978]

That was some anime Numbers monster bs

[@zad_rasera]

@@Tomarrak That's why OP wanted to remove that effect.

[@shroudedinmyth8229]

There is a logical explanation as to why Slifer's effect destroys the monster if it hits 0. Remember that the game is inspired by MTG, where creatures take battle damage and die when their toughness goes to 0. The anime and manga both mention that monsters can take battle damage. So it's an atk that deals 2000 points of damage to a monster. Remember that Slifer couldn't activate this effect under nightmare steel cage, more evidence that it is an attack. Although this doesn't explain why it also kills 2000 def position monsters. Probably just because it's a god card. The battle damage explanation also explains why Yugi was able to block obelisks damage dealing effect with Kuriboh. Kuriboh negates battle damage, which Obelisks effect is.

[@christians8821]

Well thought out, and actually makes a lot of sense

[@idosarts_and_krafts]

@@christians8821 yeah have to agree with you

[@kindlingking]

Yeah, there's another example of this in Waboku, a card that stops all damage for a turn, including "damage" dealt to monsters mtg style, despite originally not mentioning granting any battle destruction protection.

[@statmaster1316]

just wanted to note an inaccuracy in the video as it would have been Marik who also deciphered Slifers effect as Yugi dueled strings possessed by Marik to get slifer and that's when he learned of the card effect as well as the destruction effect

[@Draco-pn7ru]

This is a really interesting but confusing topic to cover. I don't think the writing team ever really had anything to go off of in terms of effects when it came to the Egyptian Gods, they just kind of figured it out as they went along. The Gods full effects were probably left ambiguous to the writing team on purpose so that they could make them do another cool trick to keep their appearances from getting stale and for the sake of convenience. This is all just speculation though. I really like the flavor text on RA, it sounds so damn menacing, but it's just too long to fit into a card.

[@dancorneanu9144]

Is that the Gods did not exist at this point in time. The card game came latter. the author was wanting to create a DnD session with cards. Though he layed out rules for the cards.

[@jeandehuit5385]

@@dancorneanu9144 The D&D period was over by the time Battle City rolled around. The MTG influences are still here, however. The God's effects are fairly consistent in the manga. Monster Effects that are not God effects don't affect them, & neither do Traps. Spells affect them for 1 turn only, & they cannot be automatically destroyed (which means Spells like Lightning Vortex wouldn't work even tho. the Gods *are* affected by Spells). They each require 3 Tributes via the Battle City rules, but that's due to the Level of the monster in question & not an inherent God effect. Osiris' & Obelisk's unique effects are pretty simple; Osiris reduces a monster's stats by 2000 according to its battle position & destroys it if those stats reach 0. How it gains ATK is self explanatory. Obelisk tributes 2 monsters to gain infinite ATK. That gets translated as a 'win the duel' effect that destroys all monsters & reduces LP by 4000 b/c that's what a monster attacking w/ infinite ATK would do. Ra's effects are more complicated, but still understandable. It gains ATK/DEF equal to monsters Tributed to Summon it or by its own effect. If Special Summoned from the GY, it can attack that turn (Special Summoned monsters couldn't normally attack the turn they were Special Summoned in the manga) & perform either its OTK (by allowing you to pay any and all LP you have to have it gain that much ATK) or pay 1000 LP to destroy a monster. That the TCG can't translate these effects into the cards is one problem; the fact the anime writers adapting the manga can't stick to them is another one (for ex. Spellbinding Circle is a Spell in the manga, so it can affect Gods, but in the anime Spellbinding Circle had already been rendered into a Trap, but the duel couldn't be rewritten to exclude it, so the God's protections seem more ambiguous than they really are).

[@dancorneanu9144]

@@jeandehuit5385 I know those effects. But even at this point, the second mouth of Slifer is considered an attack. Also the tribute rule, they are the reason for it. In universe. They intrinsically work with tributes. I don't blame the anime, I blame the war going on between the real card game and the manga one going on at this moment. The real cards were one thing and they wanted to keep them in the anime, but they could not work in the same situations. Spellbiding circle makes more sense as a spell. Though you can always say that traps only work for one turn, like spells. Most people only say the whole "they added new effects all the time" because of Ra and the way Marik was acting. Is not that the effects are new, but that Marik was protecting it, by nor revealing all the intricacies. So he would always have an ace. Confusing for the viewer, possibly. but makes sense from a villain. What good villain reveals his secret weapon at the start, I was referring to the old origins of the game and stating that the author actually had a plan for the effects.

[@jeandehuit5385]

@@dancorneanu9144 No, really, when Kaiba uses Obelisk in his test duel against the Duel Computer in the manga, he Summons it w/ no Tributes. Ra's manga effect is worded in such a way that it *interacts* w/ the Battle City Tribute mechanic, but isn't beholden to it. Ra "takes power" from sacrifices. Presumably under the Duelist Kingdom rules, this would mean you could Normal Summon Ra w/out a Tribute then Tribute 1 or more monsters to boost its ATK (like Malik does w/ Juragedo in chapter 269 of the original manga).

[@TheDeathmail]

First, the Egyptian god cards were made by a single author. Also, it's confusing because the cards were supposed to be literal magic and summoning actual gods.... Now transcribe that into a real world card game...

[@joress]

Basically Egyptian God cards have the effects everyone invented when playing Yugioh with friends at the primary school because nobody knew the rules of the game 🤣 Also, i would like a Chronomaly Yugioh Trivia 🙄

[@kendrajade6688]

He reads the wiki word-for-word on the trivias. So... check that

[@seashells5741]

Same

[@omnijoru4032]

Yeah I'll look at it

[@jeandehuit5385]

@@kendrajade6688 In other words, he's a lazy hack.

[@TheDeathmail]

To be fair, the Konami rules aren't the actual rules... Those are just the rules for the tournament... the anime/manga came first so technically, those are the more correct rules.

[@madambutterfly1997]

When two monsters are sacrificed, Obelisk's force becomes infinite

[@itachi-kun7736]

i know but its clearly Takahashi was a Obelisk guy, even as powerful as RA in the anime, he never had a Infinite power, also Slifer

[@dancorneanu9144]

@@itachi-kun7736 Though Slifer would be a really good Flood Gate. Most monsters summoned as pieces for combos are under 2000, so any time you would try, Slifer would obliterate your combo.

[@itachi-kun7736]

@@dancorneanu9144 yeah but Slifer is the most fragile of them, remove all cards in your hand and he had 0 attack

[@dancorneanu9144]

​@@itachi-kun7736 Sure. But here is the deal. In a meta sense he is the strongest. You need single card, spell or trap with hand card removal. Also strong main deck or fusion monsters. Slifer backed up by support would cripple most XYZs, Syncro or Link plays. If he is given enough support, you can get a 2000-3000 monster that can remove any combo piece for extra deck shenanigans, not dependent of fusions, on a body immune to destruction or removal. So only combat. From cards who already lose 2000. Even with 0, you can still diminish opponent resources.

[@r3zaful]

@@dancorneanu9144 or you know summon in defense position

[@andresarancio6696]

I guess the closest you could get to PSCT for the "true effects" of the God cards should go something like: "Cannot be normal summoned or set. Must be special summoned from the hand by tributing three other monsters you control. Unaffected by monster effects, except for Divine Beast monsters. Cannot be targeted or destroyed by your opponent card effects. Cannot be tributed. This card's control cannot switch. If this card is special summoned except by its own effect, send it to the graveyard during the End Phase. If an opponent's monster declares an attack while this card is in Defense, (Quick Effect): change the attack target to this card." The hardest effect to convey here would be the whole "effects only work for one turn" thing. For instance, if you Skill Drain a God card, would they just lose their effects forever? After all their effects are negated for one turn but once that turn is over their effects just wouldn't come back as they are negated. A way to resolve this could be with a mandatory trigger that leaves a lingering effect, but the wording would be kinda wonky. Something like: "If a Spell/Trap card would be activated that would affect this monster, (Quick Effect): This monster becomes unaffected by that card effect after the End Phase." That would be a bit of a pain, but it COULD make a pretty interesting scenario where you negate the God card to remove it from the field so its lingering effect doesn't trigger, which sounds like the kind of convoluted bullcrap that they pull on the anime. Obelisk's gain attack to infinity thing would probably be ridiculous, not because it is good per se, but because card design tries to avoid infinity as a value in general? So Obelisk's unique effects could go something like: "If this card declares an attack, you can tribute two monsters you control and activate one of these effects: - Destroy all monsters your opponent controls, and if you do, inflict 4000 damage to your opponent - Increase the attack of this monster by your opponent's current life points. This card cannot be destroyed by battle. A monster that battles this card is destroyed at the end of the damage step." Slifer's is simple enough I don't think it is really worth mentioning. Ra's though... I think the TCG/OCG were right on how Ra should work. Ra's effects should bring out other cards in the field instead, which take the shape of the other "modes" of the card. So I would say Ra's unique effects should be: "If this monster is summoned by its own effect, you can send this monster to the graveyard and activate one of the following effects: - Special summon from your deck, hand or graveyard a "Winged Dragon of Ra - Phoenix Mode". - Special summon from your deck, hand or graveyard a "Winged Dragon of Ra - Fusion Mode" This card's original attack and defense are equal to the combined attack and defense of its tribute materials" Regardless I do think that these effects could be a bit... ineffective? At least in the feeling one wants to convey on summoning the God cards. I personally think that the God cards aren't really about bringing out this unkillable creature, but more about bringing out a thing that your opponent is not getting rid of. Like, besides Obelisk, the God cards will not usually be super dangerous in terms of actual danger to OTK you. Slifer will usually have at most 1000 or 2000 attack, and Ra Fusion Mode might be incredibly strong turn one but you most likely will want to bring it out as a board wipe on Phoenix Mode. So what I would argue is that an acurrate way of remaking the God cards is something similar to how DPE works in the current meta. Have them use a lingering effect to bring them back to the field. Give the opponent the sense that they made an opening in the divine defense that they can use to win, instead of making Rhongomeniad 2.0. So what I would suggest for the Egyptian God general effects to be is: "Cannot be normal summoned or set. Can be special summoned from your hand by tributing three monsters you control. Unaffected by monster effects, except Divine Beast monsters. Cannot be tributed or be used as material to summon a monster from the Extra Deck. Once per turn, (Quick Effect): you can send this card to the graveyard, then, during the End Phase, special summon it to your side of the field." This probably would cause some incidental synergy with decks that like you to summon from the graveyard, and maybe Call By The Grave would be a hard counter to it? But at the end of the day I think the God cards should follow the playstyle of "Big Chungus turbo" and be a thing you can rely on to stay on the field after you play. They also wouldn't be too strong I don't think? Mostly cause outside of Slifer they pretty much lack interaction. And I think that's a good thing. Fighting a God card should feel less like a surely losing battle and more like a puzzle the opponent needs to solve if they don't want to get pummeled next turn.

[@WarmLillie]

The Egyptian god card power had to be limited so we feeble mortal may be able to use there power with ease

[@HolyLightofAngel]

The wicked gods got nerfed the same too and they weren't played by a pharaoh or a millennium item holder what im saying is that konami nerfed the cards at that point of time so in the future they could release multiple cards that support the gods to the point to fill an entire deck with support cards so they could get a lot of cash plus at the time they were released obelisk was okay only the other 2 weren't

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

They all should have had Apoqliphort Towers protection effect.

[@Xenophanes905]

yes

[@KaoruMzk]

So, they should die to Link monsters then?

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

@@KaoruMzk Yes

[@zad_rasera]

Good idea, actually.

[@nopess2768]

Why did they never release link arrow spell cards?

[@johngentley5015]

3:27 I have to disagree, Marik said that the Milenium Rod showed him that ability, the ability to fuse with Ra, I think the full powers of these cards become clear if you have a connection or an item connected to Ancient Egypt

[@wafflespersonal4911]

One minor note - Yugi learned about Slifer's destruction effect in the duel vs Marik's mime pawn not when he read the card. It was explicitly stated and it destroyed one of yugi's monsters which ended up being a really important part to the loop Yugi used to win

[@alexgamer1556]

RA's true effect in the anime is to make up any effect that it's player wants on the spot. That's why Yami Marik got away with so much bs.

[@rushalias8511]

Pretty much

[@NeroDeAngelo]

That is a nice video, very informative... BUT you forgot that Ra has actually two more variations in the TCG! "The Winged Dragon of Ra - Immortal Phoenix" and "The Winged Dragon of Ra - Sphere Mode"! Those give Ra some more of his Anime Effects! Phoenix Mode: "Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned by its own effect. If "The Winged Dragon of Ra" is sent from the field to your GY while this card is in your GY: Special Summon this card. Cards and effects cannot be activated in response to this effect's activation. This card is unaffected by other cards' effects. You can pay 1000 LP; send 1 monster on the field to the GY. Once per turn, during the End Phase: Send this card to the GY, and if you do, Special Summon 1 "The Winged Dragon of Ra - Sphere Mode" from your hand, Deck, or GY, ignoring its Summoning conditions." Sphere Mode: "Cannot be Special Summoned. Requires 3 Tributes from either side of the field to Normal Summon to that side of the field (cannot be Normal Set), then shift control to this card's owner during the End Phase of the next turn. Cannot attack. Your opponent cannot target this card for attacks or by card effects. You can Tribute this card; Special Summon 1 "The Winged Dragon of Ra" from your hand or Deck, ignoring its Summoning conditions, and if you do, its ATK/DEF become 4000."

[@elcato8126]

Actually, with some tweaking - Slifer and Obelisk's anime effects can actually fit into a yugioh card. Not Ra's though lol. Too many effects on a monster, would have to be split into 3 different cards (like the tcg/ocg attempted to).

[@phamquang7885]

(Quick effect): You can send 1 Spell/Trap that mention "The Winged Dragon of Ra" in its text from Deck to GY, until the end of this turn, this effect becomes the sent card's effect.

[@planetdee3587]

My version: RA - This card can be normal or special summoned (not set) by tributing 3 monsters. If this card is special summoned, it cannot attack during the turn it was summoned. While this card is face up on the field, this card cannot be targeted by card effects. This card's ATK and DEF becomes the combined original ATK and DEF of the tributed monsters. You can pay LP so that you only have 100 left; this card gains ATK and DEF equal to the amount of LP paid. You can pay 1000 LP, then target 1 monster on the field; destroy that target. Once per turn you may tribute 1 monster; this card gains the original ATK and DEF of the tributed monster.

[@gx_pro2277]

@@planetdee3587 with your version can you pay lp for attack and defence at any time or when its summoned or during main phase

[@planetdee3587]

@@gx_pro2277 during main phase. The old school time to use non reactionary effects.

[@gx_pro2277]

@@planetdee3587 so say i was using your version I could summon ra wait a turn and then funnel my life points into it

[@BlazeQuadZ]

Divine Hierachy does not exist in the anime, it's a Manga exclusive thing, since Marik used "Class System" instead of "Ra's" rank to deal with "Obelisk". During the final duel of DM it is also shown that "Osiris" Summoning Blast can destroy all 3 gods, therefore "Ra" isn't immune like in the Manga. Non-targeting Spells seem to be able to destroy them, as seen with "Ragnarok", which destroys all opponent's monsters, and "Burst Impact" in GX, which is implied, but due to "Mound of the Bound Creator" it is unable to destroy "Ra", it should be noted that this could also have been "Ra's" ability, since the statement regarding it having no effect is pretty vague. The attack redirecting thing is a Manga thing, where Special summoned monsters would generally become the new attack targets if summoned during an attack, but the anime screwed up, by trying to combine the OCG with the Manga when writing some of the duels.

[@paulvarus859]

Ra is immune in Phoenix mode cause yugi on battle city finales used summoned lightning on ra but it didn't work.

[@BlazeQuadZ]

@@paulvarus859 You are right, but it's like linked to the effect itself, since it also protects "Ra" from being destroyed by battle through "Osiris" at a different point in the same duel. However, I suppose "Ra's" Phoenix effect got retconned during GX to work more like an ignition effect, since "Ra" instantly reverted back after "Burst Lady". It would also be possible that both are separate effects, but "Ra" having two different types of God Phoenix seems illogical.

[@kindlingking]

I've seen some people sharing their god card retrains concepts, so here's mine: Obelisk, The Divine Soldier 4000/Link-3 (↙️⬆️↘️) Warrior/Earth 3 Level 5+ Effect Monsters Effect: Cannot be used as Link Material. Cannot be targeted or destroyed by card effects. You can tribute 2 monsters (Quick Effect) to activate one of the effects below. You can only use each effect of "Obelisk, The Divine Soldier" once per turn. • Destroy all monsters your opponent controls. • This card gains 4000 ATK untill the End Phase of the next turn. Osiris, The Divine Thunder 0/Link-3 (↙️⬇️↘️) Dragon/Wind 3 Monsters, including a Non-Effect monster. Effect: Cannot be used as Link Material. Cannot be targeted or destroyed by card effects. Gains 1000 ATK for each card in your hand. If a monster(s) is Summoned on your opponent's side on the field, you can activate one of the effects listed below. You can only use each effect of "Osiris, The Divine Thunder" only once per turn. • That monster(s) lose 2000ATK, then destroy all of those summoned monsters, whose ATK is 0. • That monster(s) has their effects negated until the End Phase. Ra, The Divine Sun 0/Link-3 (⬅️⬇️➡️) Machine/Light 3 Monsters with different Levels. Effect: Cannot be used as Link Material. Cannot be targeted or destroyed by card effects. Gains ATK equal to combined original ATK of monsters used for it's summon. Once per turn (Quick Effect): you can destroy 1 card on the field. If this card is in your GY, during the Standby Phase: you can pay any amount of LP; Special Summon this card, it's ATK becomes equal to the amount you paid, also negate effects of all monsters your opponent currently controls. You can only use this effect of "Ra, The Divine Sun" one per turn.

[@blueeyeschaosmaxdragon8186]

The one problem I see is that they are links

[@kindlingking]

@@blueeyeschaosmaxdragon8186 but that's the main feature - to modernize them and make them more accessible. Links are the closest to tribute summoning, plus you can balance gods effects around their materials. Link markers also help to convey what "role" each god is supported yo have.

[@blueeyeschaosmaxdragon8186]

@@kindlingking or you can just have them to be tribute summoned like wih raviels retrain rather than ruin them with links

[@kindlingking]

@@blueeyeschaosmaxdragon8186 but raviel retrain sucks. For gods to be good (otherwise what's the point of them?) they need to be extra deck monsters and out of all types we have links suit them the most.

[@blueeyeschaosmaxdragon8186]

@@kindlingking they don't need to be extra decks and I didn't mean to be exactly like raviels retrain I meant that they could still use his summoning method of 3 tributes

[@exarquazowexa7247]

for ra's effect i have an idea u can change it to : "when this card is normal summoned u can chose one of these two effects 1 : send this card to the gy and special summon one "The Winged Dragon Of Râ - Fusion Mode" from the extra deck (oc that fusion monster won t be special summonable another way) 2 : send this card to the gy and special summon one "The Winged Dragon Of Râ - Immortal Phoenix" from ur hand or Main Deck (he also has the prevention from being sp sumnd another way by sending to where it came from at the end phase) these effects cannot be negated this card cannot be tributed etc..." that way you divide his effect into 3 cards like in the tcg without removing anything from its og effect plus since it s said "when this card is NORMAL SUMMONED" using the tcg version of ra's sphere mode wouldn t trigger this effect so let s add a "this counts as a normal summon"

[@solaris9426]

Marik had Slifer first, and lost it to Yugi, so it was Marik who thought up the bit about Slifer destroying a monster whose ATK/DEF hit 0 with its effect. Yugi just agreed or had to deal with it.

[@bluedragon2048]

Now in Dueling Book I've Actually made Custom versions of all 3 god cards with some of their anime effects. (It's quite a mouthful, and I used a mix between the TCG and Anime effects.) All 3: I kinda brought back their immunity ability but only made it to where they can't be destroyed or lose ATK/DEF by spell, traps, and/or effects. Also you can Normal Summon all 3 of them in DEF mode. During your end phase, I made it to where only Obelisk and Slifer would return to their perspective zone they were Special Summoned from for specific reasons. Obelisk: Made it to where you can tribute 2 monsters to activate one of the following effects. •Destroy all monsters your opponent controls disregarding effects but can't declare an attack doing so. •Double this card's ATK until after this card declares an attack (referring to it's infinity mode) Added a 3rd Ability for Obelisk where you can tribute 4 monsters and this card can declare 1 direct attack during battle and it can't be negated or change battle position. Slifer/Osiris: Didn't really change Slifer that much, but made it where Slifer's ability will activate by flip summoning in ATK mode as well. Ra: (the most changes but I kept them in 3 separate cards for Ra) Can be Special Summoned once again. When Normal Summoned it gains ATK/DEF equal to the combined monsters current ATK/DEF used for it's tribute summon. (Pretty much the same as TCG) You are able to pay a all of your LP to be reduced to 100 do that Ra will gain ATK/DEF Equal to the amount you paid (can't use this effect if Special Summoned from the Graveyard). When Ra is Special Summoned from the Graveyard, you can tribute it to Special Summon it in it's Immortal Phoenix mode. Sphere mode: (Small changes) only changed to where this card gains ATK/DEF equal to the combined monsters current ATK/DEF used for it's tribute summon. And when Special Summoning Ra with this, it's ATK/DEF will become equal to Sphere Mode's current ATK/DEF. Immortal Phoenix: Added to where it can't be destroyed by battle and you take no battle damage involving it. It's attack declaration can't be negated or have it's battle position changed when attacking.

[@robertomario1206]

"Now try and fit all that onto a Yugioh card effect box" Me, who has nothing better to do: Challenge accepted!

[@TheJoethud22]

Leave the link when ur done

[@aaronjohnquianio5644]

We'll be waiting for your return

[@robertomario1206]

@@TheJoethud22 I've done all three of them ,but I'm not sure where to put them so I can leave a link

[@sebastianquiroga7146]

@@robertomario1206 DeviantArt?

[@Tony-lw5yp]

@@robertomario1206 link it

[@JohnDoe_Gaming]

I'm a roleplayer and I used to roleplay Yu-Gi-Oh! duels and made them feel like anime duels. I used Yugi the most since I knew exactly what the anime Egyptian Gods could do unlike most people in this group chat. Fun fact: In one turn I summoned all 3 Egyptian Gods against Jaden Yuki and he managed to destroy them all. I didn't include the hierarchy thing, but destruction effects didn't work on them and other effects only worked one turn. They all got destroyed by battle.

[@5H4D0W-TP]

It's easier to decipher Winged Dragon of Ra's ancient text than figuring out the effect of Pot of Greed.

[@AlexTheOilersFan]

Seal of Oricalcos is only exception to the limit on magic/trap effects, as I recall Obeleisk had 4500 ATK points when summoned by that dude in his duel with Yugi (the first time we see the oricalcos in action)

[@dancorneanu9144]

I think the Seal is considered as Divine type. As in it affects anything. Is the power of the Sea Serpent God thing.

[@KC-jw5yz]

That was Anime, not in Manga

[@carmeloguglielmino7867]

I think they can be destroyed by battle based on the anime, as Slifer would have been destroyed by Buster Blader in the Strings Duel, Yugi was able to destroy each in battle during the ceremonial duel with non divine monsters, and Yami defeated Obelisk during Season 4 with magnet warriors. Awesome vid btw!! 👍👍✌️

[@KageNoTenshi]

A tiny correction, when obelisk uses his effect and his attack becomes infinite, he was still only suppose to destroy all opponents monsters and then do 4000 damage to them, which during that arc in the anime would have been all since their games starts with 4000 hp, but it was suppose to be the same effect, because pretty sure that’s in one of the earlier games as well

[@computernerd1101]

14:02 Actually, Marik had an easily forgettable dragon-type monster in his graveyard. I think that's what increased Buster Blader's attack points, not Slifer on the field. EDIT: Never mind, Worm Drake is actually Reptile-type.

[@willnack5315]

I actually came up with ways to keep some of the effects from the anime/manga with some reboot cards I thought up: All: need 3 tributes (cannot be set) and unaffected by opposing effects and only last the turn if special summoned! Slifer: when monster is summoned, it loses 2000 atk/def depending on position. Obelisk: sacrifice 2 to destroy all opposing monsters and if you control any monsters after using this effect, this card can’t attack. Ra (brace yourself): gains the attack/def of monsters used to summon it. During your MP1, you can either sacrifice another monster or give up all but 100 LP to increase this cards atk (can only use one of these options per turn). If this card has 0 atk, pay 1000 LP to destroy a monster on the field (Phoenix mode). I know they’re a bit op, but it’s the god cards, they’re supposed to be op!

[@GalaxiaKnightX]

Hmmmm well this is amazing to watch. Now I'm curious how you'll do something like the Wicked Gods manga/TCG cards and such. Or maybe others like Uria, Hamon, or Raviel.

[@christophermetcalf7540]

In regards to the fact that a lot of Ra's effects are cut out, that's because they actually split them across three cards. You have regular Ra, then you have Ra -Sphere Mode, then you have Ra - Immortal Pheonix.

[@Critias100]

I studied the God cards for a long time And I can confidently say I truly understand how the anime abilities of the anime of bildie's work And they're not as broken as some people would believe to be

[@norrisjohnson6032]

I saw that for over 10 years now. Fans just want them to be.

[@Tomarrak]

Ra also can sacrifice a monster to increase its attack by that monsters attack. A separate effect from the tribute summon. Marik summoned Ra. Sacrificed 2999 life points to increase its attack, then sacrificed Juragedo to give Ra another 1700. Then Marik used defusion and had 4700 life points.

[@jpollo5]

I was thinking that, the best and posible effect of the God Cards as real TCG/OCG cards, would be the ones that the majority of old video games gives to them, basically: Shared effects: This cards needs 3 tributes to normal summon (cannot be normal set), cards and Effects cannot be activated during the summon of this cards, the summon of this cards cannot be negated, if they are special Summoned, they must be sended to the GY during the End Phase, They cannot be targeted or destroyed by your opponent card effects. Slifer Effect: this card gains ATK and DEF based of the number of cards in your hand x 1000, If your opponent summons a monster, that monsters loses ATK or DEF depending of the Summon position equal to 2000 and if the result is 0, destroy that monster. Obelisk effect: You can tribute 2 monsters to destroy all the cards your opponent controls. Ra Effects: This card original ATK and DEF are equal to the combined original ATK and DEF of the tributed monsters, if this card is special summoned, activate one of this effects: 1. Pay LP until you have 100, this cards gains the amount you paid. 2. Pay 1000 LP, banish one monster your opponent controls. At least, this effects and conditions are more balanced and they give more respect to the supposed best cards in the Anime/Manga franchise, without making them broken, but at the end, all of us know what Konami did to they :c

[@leonkenedy2988]

Since I loved the God Card so much I think, I can fixed text limitation somewhat for the Gods Cards even if it can be overwhelming. First is the the name box, the name can be shrink down little bit more for the attribute and types of monster to fit in for example: "Divine" Beast ______ Dragon "Osiris" / Warrior "Obelisk / Machine "Ra" The second part is the number of stars level, it can be rework into this: "Star Symbol" and whatever number levels they are, the number of their level can just be in above empty space of the right column. Then the rest of the empty field that the numerous star level once occupied can fit in for reworked text about the summoned condition such as normal and special summon. I believe it would go like this: • Requires 3x "monsters symbol" to Normal Summon. • If Special Summon, it goes to "Graveyard symbol" at the end phase. With that alone, it will free up lots of room for more text to follow. In addition, the empty left column of the card picture can be used for targeting it in defense, like this: S.S (Special Summon) | "Down Arrow" DEF | "Down Arrow" Target symbol | -> "Down and right arrow" to the card picture The right column can be for their immunity to being tributed, equiped, and being control with an "x" put over them. I would made it like this: Tribute (Whirlwind of Soul Crossing card symbol) | Equiped (Equiped Spell Card symbol) | Control (Brain Symbol) By Skulls symbol (It represent the opponent) The third part is empty space between the card picture and effect box can go as we extend the effect box to filled it. Which would merge the two together. While at it, we might as well get rid of the words "Divine Beast" and keep only the word "Effect" in the bracket but smaller. So we can get in effect like: Immune to direct and targeting effect of monster/normal spells and traps cards (Continuous effect of spells/traps will only last for one turn), When Normal Summon, cards and effect be used to negate it summon and activated, and many more. Finally, the final part that I liked, the empty space before number of ATK/DEF. I dont know why they leave it empty like that but it could used some help. For Osiris, I would just put its ATK and DEF like this: ATK - DEF: X,000. The empty space before the ATK and DEF would be for this: X stands for numbers of cards in hands times 1,000 for ATK and DEF. For Obelisk, I would just put it like this: ATK - DEF: 4,000 and the empty space can be use for its infinite attack effect like this: (Q.E, Quick Effect)- Tributes two monster you control to make this card ATK into Infinity until end of damage step. For Ra, I would put it like this: ATK - DEF: ? I say, Ra is an interesting case as I would these in the empty space: ATK-DEF is equal to the ATK-DEF of the tribute and tribute any of your extra monster to raise it ATK-DEF. Again, I know that this can be overwhelming to see and read but its the only way to get most of the anime effect text in so it can feel OP that way. I believe true anime effect card should be for prize winning champion and not be used in a duel but whats stopping us from using it outside of it?

[@joshfarmer8408]

I absolutely hated the fact that in the anime the writers literally gave ra a brand new effect everytime he was summoned. If it weren't for that bs, marik would not be as big of a threat. Also can you do a series were you compare anime cards to there real life counterparts

[@SWad250]

Don't blame the anime writers. Blame the manga writer.

[@Tomarrak]

Yami Marik was a bad duelist. In reality he only won a single duel. He used shadow magic to confuse Mai into stealing his god, which he cheated back from her. Joey was about to beat him in a final attack until shadow bs made him pass out. Mariks victory would have been against Yugi as Ragnarok used up the rest of Yugi's deck. If you count all the card spirits torn from Yugi's deck, then all the spells, traps and other monsters it was 40 cards. Yugi's turn ended with no cards in his deck. The real Marik forfeit the duel on his turn only to banish the remainder of the darkness away.

[@itachi-kun7736]

@@Tomarrak Lol, Yami Marik wasn't a strong duelist, he lost overall thrice against Yami yugi using Bandit Kieth when he was controlling him even the duel isn't finish and even Strings couldn't pull a win using Slifer, heck, he would have lost to Mai if she knew to read ancient Egyptian text, and even Joey would have beaten him if he wasn't too weak to declare an direct attack on Gearfried, Yami Marik loves to toy duelist around to have an advantage but in reality, he wasn't that great duelist, fans made him overrated that he was a great duelist

[@itachi-kun7736]

Takahashi was more of a Obelisk guy, clearly, he made him so overly protected, the best God card in the ocg/tcg world and the only God card that can go infinite attack in the anime, clearly Takahashi hates RA

[@itachi-kun7736]

@@SWad250 anime writers always gets the blame

[@DHeart006]

This was an awesome vid. The only thing I think might change is that I do think they can be destroyed by battle. When atem dueled the oricalcos guy who summoned obelisk, yugi used brave attack to combine his magnet warriors attack points and deal that to obelisk as battle damage thus destroying it. Along this, I think that slifer's atk/def reduction ability should count or mention it being battle damage since yugi deflected these blasts to destroy ra during the ceremonial duel. The phoenix mode of ra should probably be the one that just can't be destroyed by anything since it deflected slifers effect during the final duel with yami marik.

[@zaffardookhy5807]

I'll give you credit for your work. You did an amazing job. The OCG/TCG made the Egyptian gods useless they are no longer the cards they were once feared by all duelist. They are nothing now easily be destroyed. So, why even bother! If the YCG/OCG knew they would made the Egyptian gods so feeble so there were no need to even released them. They were good as they were in the anime. By doing so, they disgraced the Egyptian gods. Such a shame these cards can't be use now cause if did they would instantly be destroyed upon summoning. I can even raise a kuriboh's attack points with power of the guardians to 4500 attack points and destroy obelisk. Man I wish you were the head of the yugioh trading card games, we would have got the real Egyptian gods and the real effect of all these super great amazing cards in the anime.

[@MasterJunior93]

The problem is Ra. While the whole point of having an Egyptian God monster is to wield ultimate power, if EVERYONE is running a Ra based deck, no one will be able to beat each other, thus resulting in draws. There still has to be a way to nerf Ra, at least a little bit, like say... Ra can only use one of its effects once per turn, or phoenix mode forces Ra to the graveyard at the end of the turn, banish phoenix mode to special summon Ra Sphere mode. Another way is to give the God cards rock/paper/scissors matchups. Slifer can beat Obelisk, Obelisk can beat Ra, Ra can beat Slifer. The reverse can also be possible with the right combos: Slifer can shave off 2000 points from Ra, forcing the owner to pool more life points into Ra to compensate. Ra can overpower Obelisk if the owner pools in enough life points to its attack points, and Obelisk can inflict piercing damage to Slifer if the owner tries to switch to defense, or activate its effects to instantly destroy Slifer. The whole point of the Egyptian Gods is that by having just one of them, you already have a powerful boss monster, and with the right combos and field set up, your Egyptian God can beat the other two. If Ra is too powerful, then everyone is gonna try to run a Ra deck, with disregard for the other two.

[@TK11223]

The anime effects of the Egyptian God cards are so vague and confusing that pretty much all the customized God cards that played in anime character duels in Duelingbook are made to have full immunities from everything to the point that successfully summon of a God card becomes a semi-win condition

[@nobodycruise106]

Card name:Divine hierarchy Card type:field spells Effects:this card is unaffected by other cards effects.all DIVINE monster that are Normal/special summon are unaffected by other cards effects.all DIVINE monster are unaffected by spell/trap effects that would make them leave the field any other spell/trap effects will last untill the end phase.all DIVINE monster cannot be tribute,control,equip by your opponent.all DIVINE monster unaffected by monster effects(except the effects of DIVINE monsters for only one turn)all DIVINE monster cannot be destroyed by battle and cannot take battle damage from battle involved them(except for DIVINE monsters)the card name "winged dragon of ra" on the field is unaffected by DIVINE monsters.

[@nikolaikolev8433]

Idk why everyone forgot that spells affect the god cards for 1 turn. The other effects don't affect them at all.

[@johngentley5015]

I have a theory: In ancient Egypt, when the 3 Egyptian "god" cards could be called on, there is something if you look closely. Everybody looks the same, except Obelisk the Tormenter. But the design isn't a coincidence, Obelisk's look in ancient Egypt is the exact same as after Yugi used "divine evolution" on Obelisk, which put him on the same rank as Ra. That means in Ancient Egypt, Ra and Obelisk might have been on the same rank, the same level. The two were equal on the "divine rank." That means Slifer, or Osiris, was either higher or lower than the 2. I'd say in my opinion Slifer was lower than the two because the "god" cards of the shadow games, Ra, Osiris, Obelisk, Exodia, they all match with a similar system as the ancient Egyptian humans did. Part of Ra's head is similar to a helmet worn by the Pharaohs, meaning he has to be a higher rank, and Exodia resembles a soldier. I think Exodia was the 3 "god" monster's personal servant/soldier, while the 3 creatures ruled over the other servants: The rest of the monsters. It also makes sense, in the game Exodia is more powerful, after all, the dude gives you an instant win. However, in ancient Egypt, the "god" creatures were clearly more powerful. When Zorc used the dark slashes on the 4 beasts I mentioned, Exodia's flame couldn't even slow it down, while Ra actually stopped about 3 of them in his Phoenix mode before Ra was killed, and Ra was the only out of the 3 "god" creatures who counter attacked, Osiris was killed before he could release his "Thunder Force," and Obelisk was dangling from Zorc's leg. Obelisk might have had a bit of immunity since he was closest to Zorc, he probably got exposed to the most amount of dark slashes, yet he was the last one fell.

[@relicking9207]

I would think the WINGED dragon of RA would be considered a WINGED BEAST, not a machine, but hey what do I know

[@cuauhtemocgonzales2530]

I would believe it should also be a Dragon type as well. Or it should have Machine, Dragon, and Winged Beast with it's original typing. And if later games want to do this for a anime like yugioh game have it so the dragon form will be it's original form. Phoenix form will have the winged beast. Sphere Mode will have a machine typing. But I doubt that they will ever make a anime related yugioh video card game like that again.

[@D-Havoc]

Or a Wyrm now that we have that monster type.

[@AlmightyKevo]

I feel like not being limited to one typing is what makes them a divine beast honestly kinda like how angelic figures are depicted as having multiple animals heads

[@relicking9207]

@@AlmightyKevo 100%, though I don't understand why Ra is a machine regardless of which form it is

[@AlmightyKevo]

@@relicking9207 the way spear mode transforms into Ra does remind me of a transformer which needless to say is very machine like

[@mayojar5264]

There was also slifers second mouth attack that automatically attacks new monsters played on the enemy field And Ra also having an instant attack ability

[@nanocloud2]

What are your abilities God Cards?! “Are you questioning god?” Player who can refuse to summon them, “Are you?”

[@tristarnova3454]

The divine heiarchy is actually kinda complex, cause there’s actually three tiers, cause I think the scared beasts are inculded and we already saw the dark ones are inculded, slifer, obelisk, all three scared beasts, since it seems no one is on top, Thor, Loki and their dark counterparts are in divine hierarchy 1, ra, in sphere mode and default form, true obelisk, zorc, Odin, and dark avatar are in divine hierarchy two, while horakty, ra immoral phoenix and armityle are in divine hierarchy three.

[@ahmadazem4167]

Source for tier 3 existing

[@tristarnova3454]

@@ahmadazem4167 I mean ra immortal phoenix mode is immune to everything so it has to be a higher teir than even itself, and armityle and horakty are combined gods so they should be a high teir than the rest, that’s why I say they are teir 3

[@1111-e4p]

My favourite YGOTAS quote “I use Mega Ultra Chicken’s (Ra’s) secret ability I just this second made up!”

[@ToaArcan]

How Marik won any game: Bullshit.

[@nicolotafa8921]

Egyptian effects are a lot more simple but a lot more fun than some people think.I've watched episodes where they appear with more attion and this are their real effect from what i've seen: Slifer Requires 3 tributes.if special summoned it is sent to graveyard during end phase.cannot be destroyed by card effects(except divine monster card effects).cannot be tributed by a card effect ,cannot switch side ,cannot be equipped with equip cards(yes dark sanctuary evil spirit is considered an equip card in the anime).every other card effects affect this card only until the end phase of that same turn(this effect cannot be negated).this card attack is equal to the number of cards in your hand ×1000.when the opponent summons a monster force this card into attacking that monster(even if its not your turn);no player takes battle damage and no monster is destroyed by that battle.after damage calculation the attacked monster attack/defense is decreased by 2000 depending from its position and if by doing so that monster atk/def is reduced to 0 its destroyed(you can deduce this by the yugi vs strings duel where yugi summons kuriboh while slifer is on the field but slifer effect doasn't activate because on the field there is nightmare cage:a card that prevents any player from attacking and since slifer "second mouth" effect involves slifer attacking the summoned monster ,its not activated.also in the japanese sub yugi describes slifer as a monster that ,thanks to its second mouth ability,can attack during the opponent turn) Obelisk *same protection and summon requirements.once per turn you can sacrifice two monsters on your field,destroy all monsters on the field whose attack is lower than this card atk(during kaiba vs yugi slifer did not get destroyed cause its atttack at that point was higher than obelisk atk)than this card may attack your opponent directly.no other monster can attack during the turn this effect is activated.(im still not certain if obelisk attack inflicts burn damage or makes obelisk direct attack the player but assuming kaiba is an honest duelist and he banned cards that inflict direct burn damage to the opponent but not cards that direct attack the opponent,i think the second is more exact) Ra *same protection and summ requirements.this card atk is equal to the summ of the attack of the monsters sacrificed for its norm summon.you can sacrifice a certain ammount of life points to have this card gain that ammount as atk points.if this card battles an opponent monster you can pay 1000 life points to reduce all damage to zero and destroy the monster this card is battling against.if this card is special summoned it gains this effects: You can sacrifice as many monsters on your field and add thier attack points to this card atk.cannot be destroyed by divine monster effects.if there is a card on the field that would prevent this card from attacking negate its effects and destroy it.you can sacrifice a defusion card set on your field and if you do make this card attack 0 and gain life points equal to this card actual atk points

[@enmadaniaisabel1552]

MY FAVORITE IS RA UwU GREAT BEAST OF THE SKY PLEASE HEAR MY CRY TRANSFORM MYSELF FROM ORB OF LIGHT AND BRING ME VICTORY IN THIS FIGHT ENVELOP THE DESERTS WITH YOURE GLOW AND CAST YOURE RAGE UPON MY FOE UNLOCK YOURE POWER FROM DEEP WITHIN SO THAT TOGETHER WE MAY WIN APEEAR IN THIS SHADOW GAME AS I CALL YOURE NAME *WINGED DRAGON OF RA* I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS 1-ISNT THE INSTANT ATK EFF A SPECIAL EFFECT FROM BOTH THE PHOENIX MODE AND THE FUSION MODE? 2-I THINK YOU FORGET THE CARD THAT GIVES +1000/1000 AND INCREASE THE DIVINE HIERARCHY (THIS GAVE OBELISK AN EVOLUTION FORM)

[@joshuakelleher4567]

The one atem used in the final duel was almighty protecter of the sun and the sky I beg of thy please heed my cry Transform thy self from orb of light and bring me victory in this fight I beseesh the grace our humble game but first I shall call out thy name WINGED DRAGON OF RÁ

[@enmadaniaisabel1552]

@@joshuakelleher4567 THE ONLY ONE I ALWAYS REMEMBER SINCE I WAS A LITTLE GIRL IS THE MARIK ONE 😅😅😅 I WONDER WHY? BECAUSE THE ATEM ONE IS SHORTER AND SHOULD BE EASIER

[@ehx3419]

I think the reason for Ra's uniqueness regarding the Special Summon is its main gimmick with the LP drain. I recall that in the original print, the paying effect was not optional and instead of gaining ATK/DEF, those would be equal to the amount paid. Given that, it seems likely that the "defaults to 0" rules weren't set at that point yet, such that they had to prevent it from being Special Summoned at all in order to prevent its ATK/DEF from being undefined.

[@markmorales7958]

If the god cards WERE “properly completed”, they would go into these three gameplay mechanics: ⛰Obelisk-> Offense 👊 ☁️Osiris-> Defense 🛡 ☀️Ra-> Burn 🔥

[@KaoruMzk]

Or in more gaming terms: Beatdown, Control & “eff you! You effing racial slur, why don’t you play a real deck instead of just sitting behind Mystic Mine!!”

[@zad_rasera]

@@KaoruMzk Thanks for explaining this in simpler terms for a meta sheep like me

[@ThatFanBoyGuy]

I think you made a good point there about the "original card's" description being vague to allow the user to use it as he or she pleases

[@fg3677]

Mega Ultra Chicken is invincible

[@FritzFoxPirate]

Arise Chicken. Arise!

[@Magiwarriorx]

IIRC, the very first YuGiOh game for DS, Nightmare Troubadour, has the Egyptian God Cards in it. What makes it stand out is that it came out in 2005, whereas the actual legal god cards were only printed in 2010. Just looking at the wiki, it seems that they have something closer to their anime effects. All of them cannot be targeted. Slifer doesn't reduce attack, but instead instantly destroys any monster your opponent Normal or Flips with less than 2000 Def (this one seems to be the biggest deviation, other than some of Ra's shenanigans). Obelisk is basically the same. Ra can be special summoned. Ra's stats are the sum of its tributes. When special summoned, you can either pay all but 1 (not 100) of your life points to boost Ra, OR pay 1000 life to banish any 1 monster.

[@ryantaylor8398]

Where's an example of the Gods battling something and not being destroyed (Besides Ra's Phoenix Mode)?

[@pt3704]

The only instance I can think of is in the manga...if Ra battles another Divine Beast not named Ra, he can't be destroyed and Ra's controller doesn't take damage. (This was reworked to the Spell Card Class System in the anime)

[@DarthPyrusTheVirus]

Can't think of it.

[@ryantaylor8398]

I can think of two instances where someone tried. When Yugi fought Slifer with Buster Blader and Revival Jam got in the way (why would you need Revival Jam at all if Slifer can't be destroyed by battle) and when Little Yugi tried attacking Obelisk with Silent Swordsman but than Yami stopped the attack with a trap card I think.

[@dancorneanu9144]

@@ryantaylor8398 Revival jam is automatic. Yugi abused the fact that Revival jam will always take the hit. The target was never Slifer.

[@ryantaylor8398]

@@dancorneanu9144 Right, I'm just saying Strings didn't need Revival Jam at all after Silfer was summoned if Slifer can't be destroyed by battle

[@pistincup352]

I remember once in the anime when talking about Slifer, when someone said that it’s also a Dragon on top of its Divine-Beast typing

[@shomeats871]

“Do you know what the real anime effects for the Egyptian god cards are?” (Skips to end of the video) Me: *Yes*

[@Supreme-AMVs]

but ra was in gx and it was destroyed by a regular monster, so these cards can be destroyed by battle with a non-divine monster too, the control just won't take damage.

[@johnroy7708]

I'm tired Konami brain the same cards that proves they don't have ideas anymore and I want to see new god cards I do not see them having pendulum and Link god cards yet and they still did not bring the New Order Monsters the xyz God card to English cards yet

[@Blade1515]

I just realized, in the anime however the duelists believe the effects works then they do that. So basically it is whatever the user wants lol, that’s very busted.

[@psiaura1]

Me: wow, the god cards’ true effects are broken as hell Also me: can’t wait for the card game side of yugioh fandom to descend and explain how they’re still not competitively viable

[@Tony-lw5yp]

Bro that happened to me, I was explaining why these things would be absolutely broken in real life and people keep saying "muh not viable"

[@psiaura1]

@@Tony-lw5yp why Konami would make such iconic cards so clunky and difficult to use is beyond me, but I still maintain that with a bit of reworking they can be OP as hell while maintaining the spirit of their original anime/manga effects

[@shidiqrajaguguk1656]

@@Tony-lw5yp I mean, yeah. I think it would be way too hard to actually summon. Doesn't matter how strong your boss monster is if you never got to summon it.

[@Tony-lw5yp]

@@shidiqrajaguguk1656 let's be honest, 3 tributes for a monster this broken is the counter balance, it of course doesn't matter when there are a ton of decks that can spam monsters in a blink

[@kappadarwin9476]

Video game Slifer shuts down sychro and many rank 4 junkbox decks. Game Ra would be pretty broken in today's game because its easy to get out three 3K beat sticks to summon Ra to the field.

[@haiphuc8049]

I think that you can change Ra's effect into: if this card is special summon from the GY you can either summon this card or 1 divined- beast monster that specify mention "The Winged Dragon of Ra" in it name from your hand, deck, extra deck or GY If this card is summoned face-up to your opponent field change this card effect into " (Insert sphere mode effect) " until this card return to your field

[@ExBlanc]

School Days with Yugioh be like: "it's a GOD, your argument is invalid."

[@Anonymityfan]

Tbh seeing as they are so hard to summoned, they should release versions with something close to their anime effects, especially with the game's power creep going so crazy.

[@dantedisbrow3987]

The effects are whatever is convenient for whoever summoned one

[@alexblake5369]

It's worth remembering that the original Duel Monsters card game was more Dungeons and Dragons with cards than Magic the Gathering. What I mean by that is that originally the rules were more like guidelines to give some structure to fights, but players could still pretty much do whatever they wanted so long as they justified it to an extent with logic. So for example a swords of revealing light card can give darkness monsters or monsters that hide in shadows a debuff since they cast a strong amount of light. This meant that a lot of cards had implicit or understood abilities based on their type and favor card text. This also made the favor text far less useless. It wasn't until the Battle City arc that TCG was even created, and actual official rules, with the intent to balance the game, were out. That's why the Battle City arc saw a big revision to how the game was played, and a lot of cards were either removed or replaced. With that said it's still clear that the writer liked to use the more loose Dungeon and Dragons style of gameplay, which we see most evidently with the god cards. While each god card has its own special ability, a lot of their abilities are the implicit abilities we talked about that they just got for being gods. So that's why the spell and trap cards are so weird sometimes in the anime, because we're using D&D logic not hard card game logic.

[@shadowfan4266]

Hurray I'm the first comment!

[@theonewhoismany8072]

Their effects should be: Shared effects: Requires 3 Tributes to Normal Summon (cannot be Normal Set). This card’s Normal Summon cannot be negated. Cannot be Tributed by your opponent. This card’s effects cannot be negated. When Normal Summoned, cards and effects cannot be activated, except effects of monsters whose Divine Hierarchy is equal or lower than this card. Control of this card cannot switch. Unaffected by other cards’ effects, except the turn they are applied. Unaffected by your opponent’s monster effects, except monsters whose Divine Hierarchy is equal or higher than this card. Unaffected by card effects that would make this card leave the field, except effects of monsters whose Divine Hierarchy is higher than this card. Once per turn, during the End Phase: This card’s ATK/DEF becomes its original ATK/DEF, also destroy any Equip Cards equipped to this card. Once per turn, during the End Phase, if this card was Special Summoned by a card effect: Return this card to the location it was Special Summoned from. Once per turn, when a card or effect is activated that targets a Level 10 or higher DIVINE monster you control, or a monster you control is targeted for an attack by an opponent’s monster (Quick Effect): You can change the target to this card instead. Only 1 “insert card name” can be on the field. Individual Effects: Osiris: This card’s Divine Hierarchy is 1. While face-up on the field, this card is also Dragon-Type. If a monster(s) is Summoned to your opponent’s field in face-up Position, while this card is able to attack: That monster(s) loses 2000 ATK if it is in face-up Attack Position, but 2000 DEF if it is in face-up Defense Position, then if its affected ATK or DEF equals to 0, destroy it. Obelisk This card’s Divine Hierarchy is 1. Once per turn, during the Battle Step (Quick Effect): If this card is in Attack Position, you can Tribute 2 other monsters; this card’s ATK becomes ∞ until the end of the next Damage Step it battles, also, destroy all monsters your opponent controls, and if you do, inflict 4000 damage to your opponent. Then, if this effect did not destroy all monsters your opponent controls, make this card target a monster your opponent controls for an attack, and perform damage calculation. If that target is a monster whose Divine Hierarchy is higher than this card, the target cannot be destroyed by battle and your opponent takes no battle damage from that battle. This card cannot attack during the turn you activate this effect. Ra This card’s Divine Hierarchy is 2. The original ATK/DEF of this card become equal to the total ATK/DEF of the monsters Tributed for its Tribute Summon. If this card is Special Summoned from the Graveyard: You can apply 1 of these effects. Pay LP so that you only have 1 left; this card gains ATK/DEF equal to the amount of LP paid, also it is treated as a Fusion Monster and gains these effects. Unaffected by card effects that prevent it from attacking, also its attacks cannot be negated. This card can attack all monsters your opponent controls, once each, also, after that, it can attack directly if able. Once per turn (Quick Effect): You can Tribute any number of other monsters; this card gains ATK/DEF equal to the total ATK/DEF the monster(s) Tributed. Any effect that would increase your LP, increases this card’s ATK/DEF by the same amount, instead. If this card is targeted by the effect of “De-Fusion”, the activated effect becomes "Shuffle the target into the Deck, and if you do, gain LP equal to the ATK it had on the field, then you can Special Summon 1 “The Winged Dragon of Ra” from your Deck." Cannot be destroyed by battle and you take no battle damage from battles involving this card. Once per turn (Quick Effect): You can pay 1000 LP, then target 1 other monster on the field; destroy it, ignoring its effects. This card cannot attack during the turn you activate this effect.

[@zombruhh5715]

konami should erata their effects by having "Divine monsters can't be targeted or destroyed by card effects" in a special page (like extra deck monsters) in the official Yugioh rulebook , Like if the power of the gods transcends all other monsters.

[@zombruhh5715]

and the 3 tributes cost could have also be in the rulebook to make room for more anime effects

[@dancorneanu9144]

@@zombruhh5715 The tribute thing is because of the explanation of the gods and how rules evolved in the plot. No matter the rules used, the Gods require those tributes (played by Battle City or Duelist Kingdom). That is why Kaiba made everyone use tributes.

[@zombruhh5715]

@@dancorneanu9144 ye ik but I meant that the required 3 tributes also be written in the Official Rulebook instead of having it take up space on the cards text, and the 3 tributes would feel more special and distinguished from other monster card

[@GAMEFAN27]

I put the extra typings on slider and obelisk because there lower gods then ra so they would have a second typing to show how they are less divine. But that's just how I thought of them.

[@mirroboylx]

First

[@matthewbraith0411]

Sam is first then you.

[@namenlosNamenlos]

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[@namenlosNamenlos]

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[@namenlosNamenlos]

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[@mirroboylx]

Do you have one?

[@ATK10155]

I remember vividly all of my friends who played using the god cards would use the “anime rules” in that you cannot directly attack the god cards.

[@chaoher6478]

Your definition of the gods card is on point! Nice job. Keep up the awesome work.

[@ManaLeak13]

I believe Obelisk effect was : Sacrifice 2 monsters you control , then deal 4000 damage to everything in its path or its ATK becomes infinite for this turn.