DOCTOR WHO SPECIAL SUCCESS ON DISNEY PLUS! NUMBER ONE IN MULTIPLE COUNTRIES! JOY TO THE WORLD!

[@DalekCaanOfSkaro]

Off topic, but can we give a massive round of applause to Steph de Whalley who played Anita. That was her first TV role going from stage work and stuff, and the fact she is one of the most talked about points of the episode just shows how incredible her acting is. We need a campaign to bring back Anita/Steph de Whalley who is genuinely one of the most incredible people from that episode espevially with her chemistry with Ncuti

[@rickkarrer8370]

Yeah, which is kind of short sided on Disney’s part, considering people aren’t going to keep their subscription if there’s no additional good content However, the one advantage Doctor Who has this year (over last year) is that Disney+ has a whole season of Who ready to watch, after the Christmas special (plus the 60th specials, which they had last year, as well). Plus, skeleton crew falls into the family friendly sci-fi genre. So, hopefully it has a good retention rate this year.

[@PhillipeStLeger]

Steph de Whalley was incredible! She has to be a companion in the future. Her chemistry with Ncuti was amazing!

[@HappyBob701]

@@rickkarrer8370it’s a shame last year was utter garbage for the most part. They really should’ve kept ‘season 1’ as part of the new who seasons

[@pipsdontlie3031]

Most of it was incredible what? ​@@HappyBob701

[@GoliathWarfare]

​​​​@@HappyBob701 it feels like anything that isn't an absolute masterpiece is utter garbage to you people. There's no potential middle ground whatsoever. There's far worse Doctor Who out there

[@rickkarrer8370]

Currently 5th on D+ in USA! (12/27/24 at 10am)

[@FlickR7881]

Hi THARRIES AND HAPPY NEW YEAR !! Here in Australia, one week after Christmas, Doctor Who's Joy to the World has dropped to no.3 on Disney+. Personally, I thimk its doing extremely well - holding its own so to speak !!

[@JoshRazauskas]

I’m in the US and it’s up to 5 now so yeah, most definitely not in trouble or dying! If Disney+ makes a dumb decision that’s their fault not the Doctor Who team!

[@jonathangmallender]

Great comment!! So brilliant to have our US brothers and sisters who love Dr Who keeping us up to date!! Best wishes from the UK!

[@JoshRazauskas]

@ Thanks right back at you from the US!

[@Drew-n4z]

But it being number 5 on one day doesn't make it a huge success. It depends on the competition. What are 1-4 on that chart? It also depends on how many people are watching it. Jupiter's Legacy was number one worldwide on the Netflix charts for a whole week and stayed in the top ten for a lot longer than that because it didn't have enough people watching it to make it financially viable.

[@Blazing_Ninja]

It's currently still #1 in Australia on Disney+!!

[@titanscifi617]

1st Doctor who positive video on KZbin this week ❤❤

[@fingal42]

I enjoyed the Christmas special. After all, it's just a bit of fun. I also continue to enjoy your channel, so keep it coming, and have a very happy new year.

[@ADifferentLens2345]

You call political commentary and blasphemy a load of fun, you're a load of something alright

[@markb3915]

@ D Dr Who has been doing political commentary or satire for 60 years. Nothing new there. Blasphemy??

[@fingal42]

@@ADifferentLens2345 What language are you speaking? It appears to be bollocks!

[@Jaycsee66]

At 7.00 am on December 28, Doctor Who is still number 1 in Australia.

[@stefanroelofs1619]

Doctor Who is number 7th on Disney+ in The Netherlands. Which is my country.

[@professorakiba434]

This is what I've been saying. We only have one story coming out from the figures which is the British and that doesn't say anything when the viewing figures for Disney Plus! aren't included. The fact it is doing well elsewhere is important because that is what will keep the show going because that is what Disney is after. I also understand it was No. 1 in Brazil of all places

[@thelukeofficial9626]

Well done you shut up the critics 👏👏👏

[@SpaceFluffDW]

If Anita became a companion, Doctor Who would get 287,700,842 viewers each episode. BRING BACK ANITA!

[@chrispy3369]

That's like 4x the size of my country's population.

[@GuyClapperton1]

Or a semi-regular. Loads of potential in there and if that’s the actor’s first gig after stage school I can’t wait to see what she does next.

[@jeanlucharry]

I love how without the intro the video is exactly 8 mins

[@Mark_LaCroix]

As to why it jumped to #5 in the US today, Americans don't really watch a lot of new TV (or any TV, really) during Xmas like the Brits do (the UK obsession with TV ratings and music chart positions at Xmas is so, so odd to us), so a late spike from US viewers should be expected.

[@DoctorWhoBookClub]

Just checked right now (two days after Christmas, Friday morning in the US) and the special has moved up from #10 to #5.

[@martinfoote8224]

Great to know so many people across the world are still engaged with it

[@BigEvil02]

And that's the point. The Disney Plus figures are from a worldwide audience. There's a lot of people who can only watch Doctor Who on Disney Plus so of course the numbers are gonna be high, it doesn't mean it's doing well it just means these countries have access to it.

[@martinfoote8224]

@BigEvil02 'Of course the numbers are going to be high', that doesn't mean it's doing well just because 'a lot of people' are watching. I think you've invented the sour puss paradox.

[@martinfoote8224]

'High numbers' and 'a lot of people' watching- sounds great

[@BigEvil02]

@@martinfoote8224 It's still not a fair representation of the opinion of all fans.

[@martinfoote8224]

@BigEvil02 Nobody would claim to represent the opinion of all fans.

[@markmangan2409]

You e also got to remember that there will be people who can’t afford Disney + or don’t want Disney + and will watch it somewhere else online ( possibly illegally ). I’m ok cause I have bbc in Ireland but other people in countries outside uk will try and watch it free online and we’ll never get those numbers

[@basilblackwell9332]

Enjoyed the pragmatic positivity of your report. Makes a refreshing change from the angst-ridden or hateful commentaries and prophecies so easily found elsewhere … I’m not one for engaging myself in fan-fuelled controversies. I know zilch about viewing habits in India, Pakistani or viewing. I’d be surprised if Western franchises performed significantly there. I hope someone can answer that!

[@Tymbus]

I admire your dedication to spreading good news about Doctor Who. Merry Christmas and a happy New Year

[@Vegemite98]

There’s over 3million Disney plus subscribers in Australia. Doctor used to average about 25000 in tv ratings on a good day. Yet somehow it’s number one of Disney plus.

[@julieanngoodwin30]

It doesn't mean all 3 million subscribers are watching , it just indicates the audience breakdown. Say 100,000 viewers on Disney on a given day, 25000 watch Doctor Who and the other 75000 is divided between for example 5 other shows on Disney averaging 15000 each, that would make it number 1 for that day, which sounds impressive but really isn't.

[@Blazing_Ninja]

It's currently *still* #1 on Disney+ in Australia! (28/12/24 at 9.30am)

[@stephenreed2093]

I think a lot of the people who say that Who is on the verge of collapse are referring to the creative vision, not the viewing figures.

[@Andy-wl6xy]

Doctor Who will be around for another 60 years.

[@dalilam3994]

At the moment it is N° 5 in Austria (with home alone in first). I don’t think English speaking population is too relevant for this ranking, because for all the countries you checked (and more) it releases with a dubbed version in their national language. While I watch the original version of the show, most people I know would probably watch the German version! :) I’m so glad for the Disney deal I really hope it stays around for a while, after watching for 10+ years I finally have an easy way to access Doctor Who and at the same time support it monetarily to make sure the show stays on air.

[@stark_harshly]

It's not cope, it's counting. Next they'll be saying Disney is lying to save face somehow 🤦

[@BrankoVT]

Disney would totally save face by saying that the gay British show is bringing in more viewers than their new Star Wars show.

[@Drew-n4z]

But it isn't counting the actual ratings. We only know the chart position not how many people watched it. There isn't much competition at the moment on Disney Plus only Marvels What If and the rather good Star Wars Skeleton Crew. Unfortunately we know Skeleton Crew is underperforming in terms of viewership and its ahead of Doctor Who in the USA chart for this week.

[@stark_harshly]

Presumably Star Wars has a higher budget than Doctor Who, so it "underperforming" will likely mean something different.

[@gene1131]

5th in Switzerland! (at the moment)

[@joelmartin4647]

I believe Doctor Who is more popular in Aus & NZ (in Aus myself) than a lot of the other countries. Our countries used to heavily rely on BBC television programs to fill schedules (including repeats) during the heyday of Classic Who which built up a strong local fanbase.

[@drthete]

An analytics company which checks how shows do on streamers, showed that Season One did incredibly well in predominately black countries. Reaching number one in the charts, sustaining that high placement for several days. Is it something as simple as the lead being black? No idea. But an interesting fact. Disney might well see that as good news for worldwide use of their platform, and possibly seen in new subscribers?

[@mew215]

I need the name of this analytics company cause this sounds like bullshyt. I'm sure Dr Who isn't charting the highest in only 'black' countries.

[@ryanps1598]

The problem with measuring success in a streaming model is that it’s only really done through additional subscribers not just views. If Disney don’t think the DW IP is gaining them subscribers idk if they’ll care that it’s charting well. But, also worth remembering that Disney class DW as a low budget production, not like they’re pumping $100m into it, so hopefully the viewing success can send a message that it’s popular with users and press go on a renewal

[@bob72osu]

Today, Dec 27 (12 Noon EST). Dr Who Christmas special is #5 on USA Disney +. We all watched it, and loved it. I've been watching since the 1960's.

[@FlickR7881]

It's dropped to no.2 here in Australia on Disney+, as of December 30th, 2024

[@LisaBeta-42]

In Germany you are allowed to choose from a wide range of languages - it is even dubbed into German by professional voice-actors, who are sounding very similar to the original artists...

[@inspector2363]

Its how long it remains in that position that matters, a few thousand viewers at once can spike the figure to number 1 for a few hours.

[@CaptApril123]

Streaming numbers are the ones they really look at. Despite some KZbin doomsayers Doctor Who isn't going away anytime soon.

[@rickkarrer8370]

Some higher ups at the BBC wanted to kill Doctor Who in the 80s as well. They sabotaged it, then used the rating as an excuse to cancel it.

[@FlickR7881]

Just as point of interest, todY is Saturday December 28th, 2024 and Joy to the World is STILL NUMBER ONE on Disney+ here in Australia. Will be interesting to see what it to s in a week. Will let you know............. And yes, a lot of people doomed Doctor Who from the beginning when Ncuti Gatwa' took on the role. To be honest I was worried about it too but not because of Ncuti's casting, but because of Disney+ and their involvement. Dr Who, for me, has always been an escape. I didn't want Disney+ to make it too "Star Wars' like with too much of the fancy special effects. As always. I will keep watching Dr Who no matter what - I am even really happy with re-runs !! Having said that, please, please grant the Dr.Who fanbase here in AUSTRALIA access to the Whoniverse ( wrote this just in case someone who follows your channel has some 'clout' in that department). Thankyou Tharries for all your hard work, time and researching to keep the likes of me, in 'the loop' ❤

[@kylemccrory8509]

I actually loved the episode.

[@thearchive1132]

Haud the bus! Where did you get those Cyberman masks in the background on the wall?

[@sabrinatirabassi3529]

You know other fans on KZbin channels say that the special was a flop? Fans can be awkward...

[@ADifferentLens2345]

It was.

[@friendlyotaku9525]

This is VERY promising indeed! If Season 2 continues this trend I think Disney will absolutely renew the deal! Though I must say I swear Disney+ didn't used to have a Top 10 shows on their app, is this a new thing they added?

[@nickoftimeproductions8719]

Yeah I wanna say they added it last month? Definitely wasn’t on there when doctor who was airing on it in the summer. It’ll be interesting to see if it can stay in the top 10 during season 2.

[@billbrown2789]

the haters are going to be so disappointed.

[@BigEvil02]

Eh, not really, common sense says it's gonna do well on Disney Plus. It's the Only Place international viewers can watch it.

[@TastySalamanders]

Meanwhile the haters are going on about how the ratings for the Christmas special are "bad".

[@jonathangmallender]

You're so right - and if you dig a little deeper on the haters - some of them have comments in their history going back years (Jodie Whittaker and further back) stating "I shall never watch Dr Who again, it's Advice, if people don't like Dr Who and say you're never going to watch it again, then do just that and shut up!! So sick of the negative people!! I just know - like most people - few of us could write anything better than Moffat or RTD.

[@inspector2363]

The Ratings are lower than last year's and its brief Number 1 position then didn't get Disney to splash more cash on a third series did it. Series 2 ratings will decide.

[@ADifferentLens2345]

@@jonathangmallender Lawrence Miles and Andrew Cartmel can outperform RTD and Moffat in their sleep you sweet summer lamb

[@stark_harshly]

Disney don't care about ratings, they want retention.

[@MrRjhyt]

I wonder if we could compare and contrast. How many episodes of the 'Battle Between the Land and the Sea' we'd be willing to trade to receive more of the main show? Despite the Disney money, it's still finite. If we could get five of the main show, that'd be great, or perhaps how few/many would we be prepared to trade for...?

[@badwolf66]

When a show reaches the top 10 it is definitely dying that's for sure, the 10 signifies the countdown to it's ultimate demise.

[@harry.wilks9320]

Hey Tharries! Long time viewer my friend! Just not a regular commenter! I used my VPN, Doctor Who is now #5 in the States, and still #1 in both Australia & New Zealand! C’mon Who!! I also couldn’t load into India! Anyways! Hope you’re having a great day mate🙌

[@angelinaduvallcameron]

Where I live in Canada it’s 6th on the top ten list.

[@juicebirdmedia1406]

it’s number 5 in the US right now. Dec 27 2:00pm

[@THOMAS_VANN]

100 percent i predict season 2 is gonna perform better than season 1 did

[@josephcooter5763]

To be perfectly honest I am surprised that Doctor who did that well here in the US. Mickey didn't promote it. They were too busy promoting this anamated virtual reality broadcast of an NBA game between the Dallas Mavericks the Minnesota Timberwolves which was similar to a broadcast of an NFL GAme they did between the Cowboy and Bengals a couple weeks ago that featured that Great Hall Fame Athlete Home Simpson. If Doctor had received a tiny bit of promotion it would do wonderfully better than it did.

[@tenmark7055]

Disney only cares about people who sign up for the service when a new show is released but only if they keep their memberships afterwards. Its the retention rate they care about, nothing much else (sadly)... and that hasnt been successful for this era of the Doctor. The first series had great viewership, lots of new subscribers but less than 30% retention of new subscribers and Disney didnt consider it a success. Go figure! Yes, people sign up to see the Doctor, then quit.

[@markmanhetherington1]

That's on Disney though, not Doctor Who. If people sign up because of Doctor Who but can't find anything to make them stay when they finish watching then Disney needs to up its game, not Doctor Who.

[@stark_harshly]

They do want retention, but one season isn't really enough. Hopefully a second season (and the spin off?) will boost retention.

[@mrb3991]

Hi Time will Tell it always Does 👍

[@garrettguymer]

It’s now at 6 here in Canada!!

[@hiddenrio]

Doctor Who also had some tough competition this week even just on Disney Plus, with What If...? and Skeleton Crew also dropping episodes.

[@hiddenrio]

@TomOBedlam-b2h Currently, Skeleton Crew is the second most-watched thing on D+ in the US (right after Home Alone 2). DW is #5. I think more people are starting to watch it due to word-of-mouth. The show is basically Goonies in Space, and it does it very well.

[@EwanDavidson-xs5fg]

Netflix should pick it up.

[@markmanhetherington1]

It would definitely get cancelled then, everything good does.

[@geronimo8862]

gonna be honest i was a little deflated after seeing the uk figures which i know were respectable but still. but now that i've seen for my own eyes that Doctor Who beat Home Alone AT CHRISTMAS (in Australia) I am a happy fellow

[@garyleigh6876]

This time next week Joy to the World will be long forgotten in Australia while Home Alone will still be riding high. The point is that not enough Australians will have subscribed to Disney Plus specifically for Doctor Who as its lack of longevity over the past year has shown. Make the most of today’s success at the top of a Disney Plus top ten chart because it can’t last and is nowhere near enough to make Disney execs take note.

[@regnadkcin6702]

I didn't know this was still being made. I saw a few episodes after Peter Capaldi left and lost interest as it seemed like a spin off of the previous series.

[@regnadkcin6702]

Update: What is this? A flamboyantly gay Doctor, obsessed with fashion, dancing and hooking up with another male character. And why all the crying? It's all the most offensive stereotypical portrayals of gay people rolled into one character. An enemy character portrayed as a drag queen. I was better off not knowing what this show has become.

[@Zardoz-mq4pt]

Now you know why its losing fans year on year for a good 7 years. It's been on a decline since Capaldi's final year. which was probably the last time this show was any good. Then things got was and fell further when Jodie and Chibnal took over. It just went even lower with viewing figures and has since. So you can see why yourself and millions more have abandoned this ship.

[@Amyliah_Violet]

Not watched since Capaldi, and still managed catch up enough to have a thought through “update” in less than a day 🤨 [KZbin comment time stamps] Wow it really is more about the story y’all can spin up around the topic, rather than the actual show itself. If these are actual good faith views and thoughts, I’d encourage you to take some time to experience and digest it, and if the series is not for you it’s not for you. Sorry you dropped off, if you had a strong connection a particular era that’s still there and I hope you don’t let anyone sour that connection for you. But also I’m sure no one is or will force you to watch a show you’ve lost interest in Im almost certain though (may be wrong) that I’m extending far more grace than is called for 🟦💜💜

[@deltaproductions313]

Bring back Anita

[@blondeelfgirl]

As I watch in the US at 2pm on 12.27.24 it’s 5th :)

[@donaldmaxwell3428]

but what is the viewing figures ???

[@JonGoodrick]

Italy on Disney plus is 9th on the 27th

[@nicoladolby2154]

The question is, what are the overall figures & the percentages ? Coming 3rd when 5 million people watched Disney + this week is average, coming 3rd when 20 people watched Disney + this week is a disaster. Dr Who can reach its glory days of 10 million + per episode, but not until this DEI crap stops, Davies is replaced & some decent scriptwriters are brought in.

[@whysoserious8666]

It’s top 5 on Disney today Fri Dec 27.

[@themaker2149]

Ok but thats not necessary a good things without numbers. I mean in theory the ratings for everything could be bad and its the best of the worst

[@Drew-n4z]

That doesn't make it a success on Disney plus. You have to ask yourself what its going up against on the streamer and its not much at all. There is the Star Wars Skeleton Crew out at the moment and Marvels What If season 3 other than that there isn't much competition to speak of. What matters is how many people are watching it not its chart position. Skeleton Crew apparently is doing pretty badly in terms of viewership ( its pretty good in my opinion ) but Doctor Who is behind that in the USA charts. For example it doesn't matter if its number 5 if it only gets 250 thousand watches. We will know more when we get the third party Nielson ratings but I wouldn't get too excited just yet.

[@T320SNU]

If I understood you correctly, the figures are for the day you're looking at, so in the USA it might have been higher earlier - I know a lot of US Doctor Who KZbin folks had seen it and done their reviews by the middle of boxing day. I'm with you , the figures you've found do not suggest for a minute that Doctor is a dying brand; far from it!

[@charg1nmalaz0r51]

Yeah rankings on Disney plus isnt really doing it for me. I have no context on what that means other than the fact that on that service of its shows this is one of their better ones. It doesn't tell me how many are watching it. I dont really go off the numbers per se anyway, i usually go by the overall vibe of the show. There is a major difference in the popularity and general consciousness of the show in Eccleston, tenants and matts eras then anything that came after it. No one talks about it anymore unless you hunt down people talking about it.

[@Soccerdog2009]

doctor who is #5 as of 10am 12/27 in thje usa

[@dc6521]

I think the UK figures would be higher if it was between wallace and gromit and what's hopefully james corden's final tv appearance

[@jonrobinson3262]

agree,I missed it live as thought it wouldn't start til 7

[@dc6521]

@TomOBedlam-b2h 12, maybe 13 million watch that annoying fat man, so by your own logic, it still would've been better to put it before that came on.

[@toastymaster4445]

Number 3 in Germany rn

[@venomz7682]

Cant watch this video yet but if the title is true that is great news

[@tsr207]

Sorry to burst your collective bubble - I have watched since Hartnell and this series is very poor - a lead actor who can't act (why is he so smug all the time?) stories that are an insult to the intelligence , lead by a showrunner who no one will criticise. We are not "the haters" as you portray - we remember when the show was watchable and the general public watched it too - not just a cult group !

[@dawgdayz4884]

Its 5 in US as I type this.

[@nealc.6927]

Yeah, but what are the VIEWING numbers? 1 million? 10 million? 2,000? What? Position don't mean shit if D+ only garnered 3 million viewers on the day!

[@inspector2363]

EVERYONE is saying Srickly's gone "woke" A Decepticon was predictably made winner.

[@ZarbiDW]

what do you mean by "decepticon"

[@inspector2363]

@ZarbiDW I said "Decepticon" work it out.

[@robalexander8065]

​@ZarbiDW It was won by a drag queen.

[@ZarbiDW]

@@inspector2363 sorry typo, yeah you’re a twat

[@Sparx632]

@ZarbiDW he means a trans person, because trans/transformer he’s also claiming trans people are trying to deceive people. Usual transphobic tripe, not worth listening to, the winner wasn’t even trans she is a drag queen and she deserved the win she wasn’t picked just because she’s a drag queen.

[@SimonPayne-je3hi]

I would say to concentrate on a stories quality and production information not people's judgement's on other things. That's a distraction and not to be concerned about.

[@Cubicnoir]

🤦🏻‍♂️they’re trying to keep Doctor Who on the Disney Platform by using a bunch of watch bots

[@Coroplocs-Chameleon]

Proof?

[@MannyCoon]

Canada is French

[@garyleigh6876]

You fail to mention Disney Plus had to move Doctor Who from the TV to Film top 10 amid 30 year old movies to scrape into the top 10. The true test is where Doctor Who will be tomorrow and the next day while the rest of the top 10 remains more or less the same. The problem being that Disney Who has little or no longevity. Nothing to get all excited about, I assure you.

[@lanceuppercut3498]

That's the thing, it's about putting things into perspective. Yes No1 now after one day of release. But season 1 did, but within a week in some Disney charts it fell down the chart and out of the top 10 quite quick. So, yes maybe this is a bit early to give it a pat on he back saying well done like it's amazing. It's the following days/weeks will see the bigger picture

[@Tharries]

Old movies always chart well on streaming services at Christmas, seems like bull to me.

[@talonschultz5277]

The Disney plus top 10 includes both TV and Movies. However I’m not sure how much Disney+ is actually based on streaming numbers and how much it’s based on what Disney wants to be the top 10…

[@justsomerandomguyonline1144]

4 million is not a success. This show used to get 14 million viewers for Christmas Specials back in the day

[@Tharries]

It quite literally never got 14 million

[@ZarbiDW]

@TomOBedlam-b2h one is a brand new Christmas movie of a beloved franchise which had a good amount of advertising behind it while one is just an episode of a tv show. apples and oranges

[@justsomerandomguyonline1144]

@@Tharries well Voyage of the Damned came pretty close

[@BigEvil02]

Naturally its gonna do big numbers on Disney Plus its the only place international viewers can watch it. It doesn't necessarily mean that its good, it just means that's the only place a lot of people can watch it. In the UK, the country that created it, makes it and funds it, its the least viewed Christmas special in the shows history.

[@somerandomguy2073]

*One of the most viewed shows of the most significant day of the year *Beat ALL of the soap operas *Beat STRICTLY! *Had the same percentage of audience share as the Tennant era. Yeah, the BBC are definitely worried. 😂

[@BigEvil02]

@@somerandomguy2073 and yet viewing figures don't count? This new agenda RTD has got going on isn't working. The ratings were pretty bad let's be honest. It beat the soaps and strictly and none of those shows did well. It's still the least viewed Christmas special in the shows history. Everyone I know hated it.

[@JasonPeace2072]

Yep

[@Viperuk80]

copium is strong in this one

[@tmr4342]

Still nothing to crow about really. Not without looking at actual viewing figures for this and past episodes. And looking at viewing figures for other streaming platforms for comparison.

[@justsomerandomguyonline1144]

Moffat is the worst thing to happen to the show.

[@diamant_2dot0]

Why Moffat now?! First I thought you said Chibnal, then Davies, now Moffat?! Do you even like any era of modern who?

[@justsomerandomguyonline1144]

@ When have I ever hated on Davies or Chibnall?

[@ashleyj97]

Currently 6th in Canada ❤