That Guy Murderhobo Doesn't Know Consent | r/rpghorrorstories

[@Jaeger_Bishop]

Sounds like "Bossman" needs to be in jail, man. I'm glad you started wrapping up the week with Glory Stories, they're a godsend after hearing stuff like this.

[@KentaroMiyamoto21]

Okay, as uncomfortable as that first story was, your reaction helped lighten things up.

[@ShiKageMaru]

Holy fucking hell. I'd have come in to that conversation with a hidden voice recorder and then beaten that boss into a bloody, quivering pulp. The dnd part of that story is like the least important part.

[@Densoro]

Seriously, the dude confessed to turning half of that poor woman's _life_ into a horror story. The D&D game was just set dressing for such a fucked up confession.

[@Mister-Thirteen]

There is no job on earth worth working for such scum.

[@MultiBeltman]

Hearing you say "I need to heal" as your character on screen is on the brink of death was just perfect timing

[@starbird3939]

“She’s my wife, what’s the problem” How to divorce. Also the dude was a groomer.

[@Densoro]

Seriously, I hope that poor woman gets some help and gets tf away from him.

[@TigerW0lf]

How is he not in jail after openly admitting that?

[@WASDLeftClick]

Because people make excuses for him. Because society is very messed up and needs drastic change that most people consider to be completely unthinkable.

[@Chibz]

​@@TigerW0lf you wouldn't believe what pedos can get away with and how the age of consent laws work in their favor. You can marry children in the US with parents permission. This guy probably got parent approval and no charges were pressed. Maybe they live in a state with low age of consent. Even 13 can be considered "close enough" to some people. And ignoring grooming at all. Now that they are adults, it just doesnt count anymore because too much time has passed. I heard about similar stories in a Trauma group I went to. Celebrities do this, no one pays attention. Maddening.

[@AdmiralBlackstar]

​@@TigerW0lfpossibly past the statue of limitations?

[@KOBULT92]

Lol that 2nd story. "She's not evil, she's a girlboss"

[@tuomasronnberg5244]

Honestly, that the party was surprised by the GM's "twist" makes them sound like the densest people on Earth.

[@justinheads5751]

the terms are interchangeable.

[@SpitfiretheCat16]

"When you get past the puppy skinning..."

[@mrroboshadow]

@@tuomasronnberg5244 even if they are dense at least most of them roll with it and didnt throw a fit like the problem player

[@HypercomboProduction]

Princess starts singing on how she is the bad guy. The players: She is the nicest person in da world!

[@goncalocarneiro3043]

It's just a little goof, a funny, why aren't you laughing? She was just torturing prisoners ironically, that was just a joke.

[@Spartan135]

SSSSSSIIIIIIIIIIIIMPS! 😂

[@JSRLPadre]

That Glory Story though....Valhalla thunders, quakes and echos with such tales....

[@tenshyklonik]

I talk Cattonesse and kitties doesnt say like and suscribe, they say, more or less, "Slave, give us treats"

[@ChaosCounseling]

I never knew how great these glory stories where until some of those stories today

[@shipper-of-heart8898]

I hope Wifey in the first story lives in an area where the statue of limitations doesnt run out so she can eventually go to the police and tell them how Bossman groomed her....

[@ikki_jabul4456]

I play your videos on my tv while I paint or do whatever. When your cat came up my cat Sullivan a.k.a Grey Boy, got excited. He sits and watches tv sometimes, too close at times. Lol.

[@williek08472]

Hearing that the guy was a groomer made me nauseous. At least we have kitties to help

[@lalunafate]

I just love how you cap out the week with a good story. Happy Friday Doge

[@TOPACE31]

First story: cheesus crust, the audacity of this bastard. Killing quest NPCs and female NPCs that refused to sleep with him already made him a scumlord but then we have the IRL stuff like how he doesn't know the meaning of consent and then there's how he met his wife. When I heard there was a massive age gap between the two I expected something relatively tame like they started dating when she was 19 and he was 30 not... That... Second Story: That was a nice twist involvingtge evil princess, with plenty of foreshadowing sprinkled throughout the story, unfortunately, the problem with characters is that someone will always have a different interpretation of them and that player refused to see her as anything other than the strong independent woman who takes crap from no one and would raise Hell if seen as anything else. OP dodged a bullet for sure. Third Story: That DM wasn't a friend it was a walking talking toxic waste dump who did everything a DM shouldn't. Hopefully OP gets a nice steaming cup of therapy so they can get back into the hobby and move on from that nightmare. Glory Story: That sounds amazing, I'm so happy OP not only managed to cameo in his old campaign, but get to play what sounds like the best boss ever. Just goes to show saying goodbye to a player group isn't always forever.

[@PaladinGear15]

That second story reeks of "if not every woman in your world is an angel then you're SEXIST!". As for her complaining that a woman is a minion for a guy, there's an entire race of people where the women are *always* superior to the men, they're called Drow, even the good aligned goddess of the Drow consider men to be lesser.

[@spectrelead]

Pretty much all of this!

[@etcetera1995]

Yyyeah but a problem with your argument: the Drow aren't feminist, tho. The rest of everything you said is absolutely *correct,* but the Drow aren't feminist, from either a Watsonian *or* Doylist perspective. Watsonian, or in-story: *they're still racist slavers.* Feminism is supposed to uplift all women so that they and men are *equal,* not make one group of women superior to everything. Doylist, or authorial: ... They're scary spider dominatrixes who are all eeevilll. They're someone's fap fodder from the 80s and a bad commentary on women's liberation. That's not feminist, that's still something that serves a male-centered perspective. ... I could write a whole essay going into some actual nuance for you, but this comment is getting too long already lol

[@MWH12085]

And it odd how Drow society is rather casual about murder and violence despite being female dominated.....so much for 'the world would be a much better place if women were in charge.'

[@AmaryInkawult]

Doyle needs therapy

[@PaladinGear15]

@@etcetera1995 I didn't say anything about the drow being feminist... It's just that given the lore, the women are and have always been superior, but I didn't say it was any feminist "high five, girls! giiiiirl poowwerrr!" reasoning behind it.

[@Katiekooleyes]

Story 2: Princess: kicks puppies Party: shrugs Princess: turns out to be evil Party: surprised Pikachu face!

[@sagekoh3158]

I like when lucky wears his arrow ears Aerodynamic speed +15% 🏃‍♂️

[@ronwisegamgee]

Currently at 3:54, but from what I'm hearing, the DM was in an impossible situation: having been surprised by the level of psychopathy that the boss would RP as and not being able to put him in check for fear of his IRL job.

[@Bynj3]

To the wife in the first story: run, get a gun.

[@JimAbooGames]

That third story what the hell? This dm sounds so............There's not a word to describe them.

[@StrewthStoatPirate]

Really leaning into the 'horror' part of 'horror stories' this week, Doge. Yikes on bikes.

[@thegreatcanadianweasel9928]

Time for my very late, probably unpopular take on the reveal story. We don't have enough information, but it seems like a few things for me: The DM probably male, the player who through a fit female. So she was probably noticing things he didn't, like: -did he have any other female NPCs in the story who weren't "barmaid #3" They didn't seem so upset that she was evil, but that she was a minion. So possibly the only strong female character in his world is taken down as lesser and not independent. A character that the PC possibly thought was inspiring. I think they overreacted too, but I also think if you are having an argument with someone and you say, "You don't like, then leave." Don't be surprised when they leave and then go whine on the internet about it.

[@Jokervision744]

That first story... Could even work as some beginning for bigger one, even if you would come up with the rest.

[@meeapeea]

I usually listen to the videos at work and don't see what game is being played at the background. Imagine my delight when today I happened to take a peek and gasp "Enderal!"

[@WinteryNeighborhoodWinterspell]

I love it when the backround footage is Skyrim

[@kravitz6455]

Heck yeah glory story!! Glory to Lucky the Cat

[@hikaru9624]

That first story rang so many bells of nope! If she was me he'd learn how good my knee is even nowadays.

[@rduke325]

Boss man needs to be arrested. Second poster lost me when he claimed trauma over dnd in a game he was not forced to be in

[@AdmiralBlackstar]

There needs to be a higher emphasis on consent in sex-ed. Among other issues.

[@BurroughsProductions]

"I dont think wifey puts up with that crap" I'm he groomed her she clearly does

[@vortega472]

Sweet little Lucky, you meow and I follow (and comment for the algorithm). Unfortunately, even though it's Friday I'm working all weekend, so Lucky you're cheerful face will keep me going. That last story made me smile, I like happy hour Friday.

[@TheGameRuler]

For the NPC reveal one... I have learned that many people won't see someone as a vilain or evil if one these conditions are met: One: The NPC is female and they are a simp/weirdass activist Two: They see such tactics as normal or part of the story and don't consider stoping to ask themselves what's going on (often, they will question IF the good guys are the good guys but won't question the vilains) Three: They, IRL, see these tactics as fine for getting ahead of something and feel like it's normal (I've actually met one, thankfully it's somewhat rare) Four: They literally can't think for themselves and can only make the right choice if they are told what IS the right choice (sad but you wouldn't believe how frequent this is. Just grab a history book and you'll see what I mean) Five: They hide behind "Logic" So... yeah >.

[@unluckyone1655]

1st story; it went from cringe murderhobo to FBI OPEN UP! Seriously bossman needs to be in prison, that poor woman. 2nd story; well the clues were there that that princess was up to no good, just sucks that that player ruined the twist and the campaign because "buh cool strong female characters can't be evil and can't work for a man" which, oh where does one begin with this 3rd story; yeah sounds to me like that was a sadistic DM OP was playing with, basically forcing everything to go grimdark because "it makes the story interesting" and making players uncomfortable is funny to them. I hope OP can find a better DM that can give them a more wholesome experience 4th story; it's just beautiful, glad OP was able to play a bit with some old friends, that had to be spectacular

[@ninten90z70]

Banning evil characters does not keep bad players out.

[@josephgeorge5741]

That glory story was Epic!

[@oliviabean8264]

Under my moral code anything short of extreme circumstances doesnt justify murder... that being said...

[@AmaryInkawult]

"well hello there" Hellooooo~ give the kitties extra treaties~

[@bthsr7113]

First story requires cops.

[@fred_derf]

To the third OP... The time to talk about non-D&D things is before and after the game (and during any breaks). Unless you and the rest of the table aren't serious about the game and are mostly using it as an excuse to get together (which is fine if that's what you all want). But if people are serious about he game bringing up real-world topics in-game interrupts the game and breaks immersion and is unwelcome.

[@ezekial7028]

That bossman story just did an immediate 90 degree swerve right into WTFH! territory when you hear the truth behind bossman and his wife.

[@9liveslie-cat-lie129]

Lucky the paladin of cute spreading the cute.

[@monikasernek1177]

The type of people that problem player from the second story is one of biggest reason why I prefer to play as male characters.

[@thelonelyghost1634]

Are you playing a skyrim overhaul? Or a different game made in the same engine? It looks neat

[@DnDDoge]

It's a total conversion mod that's available on steam for free if you already own skyrim

[@BurghezulDjentilom]

looks like Enderal to me, very worth playing

[@SquirrelGamez]

Holy shit that first guy wtf... OP shoulda called the police for taking advantage of grooming and having a physical relationship with his wife since she was 13. Seriously, wtf.

[@ReverieNightengale]

Holy crap I've been playing Enderal and I'm OBSESSED with the game lately. Seeing that as the gameplay footage during this video made me so happy.

[@thewolfstu]

10:50 this is sounding too familiar rn. EDIT: Thankfully the similarities ended before the "Epstein Character" part.

[@thorcadail5812]

I would love to listen to your vids on Spotify

[@vernonhampton5863]

9:20 yeah, no. This is why session 0 and safety briefs are necessary. Fight me on this.

[@K_i_t_t_y84]

Commenting to support you ♥

[@rentheseer190]

Will the sane players who would 110% leave the table abruptly if your gm forced your pc to have sex with a minor please stand up. Jokes aside, Dude what the f%$# would make anyone think this fine?!?

[@AmazingAutist]

Think you should call the cops if you know there's a victim of grooming, or at least heavily encouraged that victim to contact the police

[@siobhanroberts2329]

I know you get demonitized for calling that guy what he is beyond a groomer, but it's really disturbing how many dnd horror stories are actually just abuse.

[@axelwulf6220]

Game looks like Skyrim

[@slagarcrue85]

To dnd doggie a dogs I think you mean a cute elparo that’s dog in Spanish. I probably spelled that wrong. O well continue dogo.😊

[@Metal_Horror]

Dog is perro.

[@talkingwithadam812]

Good doge. Heres a treat 🦴

[@madvulcan8964]

In that second if he mad the princess perform child sacrifice then did the review would the player “still” call the princess a positive female pro-tag? Would she brush off the characters child sacrifice like it was no big deal? Bet you she would.

[@DanaOtken]

Some lack of context on the second campaign. I can see players assuming, say, that if they were introduced to the princess first she must be the one they're supposed to help, and it's possible the setting felt dirty enough already that it trumped the fantasy assumption that virtue is better than pragmatism. That doesn't mean I think that reaction was justified, but it might explain why several people were surprised the ruthless manipulative princess was also in league with evil forces and they weren't supposed to be helping her steal the throne as the better candidate. Feel like I'm missing all kinds of context in the way of "session zero" information with that other player: it seems like the campaign was designed to be one in which player characters would have limited power, very low social agency, and would be exposed to all sorts of fairly scummy behaviour and none of the mentioned players actually wanted that. (I probably wouldn't either - although it would make a good excuse to go murderhobo if I ever wanted to do that in a game other people were playing.) That said, I am very curious as to whether "the gatekeeping from new players" meant gatekeeping away from new players or whether the new players were doing the gatekeeping, because I'm genuinely interested in what an example of the latter would look like. ...All of that said, the important question isn't "Am I crazy?" because if you're asking that question the answer is probably somewhere in between no and yes. (I'm assuming the position that rationality is in relation to the outside world - in a setting where logic doesn't reflect reality, that logic isn't rational either.) The important question is "Is this situation causing me to no longer feel sane, and do I have a good enough reason to tolerate that?"

[@Vahktang]

First story: City guards and a trial? Not needed. Foreign guy offs a local girl? Foreign guy gets offed. Make a new character, boss. Consequences for actions. Or You had the solution in the Cursed Item. Start small (heh). Character does something wrong. Roll Fort save. Part of you is noticeably smaller. Get an expensive remove curse to get it back to normal. No, they won’t remove the item without a quest.

[@marooniballooni03759]

wait, did I just hear scat loli?

[@REfan2002]

Hey, Doge and kitties. 😻

[@imkluu]

I think the groomer story was exaggerated if not simply made up. There is no way a groomer lwould admit it to someone under him in a job setting that he had done that.

[@DisneyChar]

Only dnd talk? Challenge accepted, hey guys did you know players are supposed to effect the story and npcs are supposed to be side characters with little impact. Turn everything into dm critiquing.

[@Densoro]

Jesus, some _actual scoundrels_ in today's stories. This is worse than 'cringe,' some of this is a literal crime with a human victim.

[@WhiteDragonCM]

Whyyyyy are there idiots who think a "strong female character" = evil? or that it matters if their boss is a man. how petty can you be? XD it drives me absolutely nuts. the dm dodged a bullet with that one leaving if she thought the other obviously evil character was "Strong." there's no telling what else she would have been triggered by. and i get the sneaking suspicion that the strange siding against the prince, might have had something to do with her, but that's pure speculation on my part. *shrugs*

[@PMbarbieri]

She didn't think "strong" equals "evil", she simply saw the character as a strong woman and didn't see her actions as evil, and didn't like that such a strong woman would be a minion for a man. Like a lot of people who think people like Dolores Umbridge of Bellatrix Lestrange are strong female role models instead of a dictatorial asshole and an unhinged simp respectively. It still tells a lot about this person, given she apparently doesn't see anything wrong with falsifying informations and killing people on a whim: to her, those might be necessary actions for a woman to rise to power.

[@WhiteDragonCM]

@@PMbarbieri its just a correlation I noticed XD that a female can be an evil witch, and some people don't bat an eye, (even encourage the idea) and calls them strong, but if we were to swap rolls no one would call it empowering. I think you summed up very well :D. its a "Might makes right" mentality, so long as a woman's in charge of it. drives me nuts actually, which maybe why my wording might have been off a bit x3

[@PMbarbieri]

@@WhiteDragonCM #morefemaledictators, am I right?

[@firepuppies4086]

Don't do Iori like that.

[@symantares9171]

Holy crap did he work for Andrew Tate?

[@tedybomber1713]

Yikes yikes yikes.

[@lamiahunter]

So, that story is crazy but im going to say what some of us are thinking. This is OPs fault. If you ignore or allow that much stuff happen you’re at blame too. Op is spineless and a coward. A victim of the dm and their own yellow blood.

[@justinheads5751]

Knowing the complete inability of most leftists, especially younger leftists, to properly employ the conditional hypotheticals necessary to understand the beliefs, values, and worldview of others (especially those who's beliefs differ greatly from their own), and their over the top feelings of justification for filling in the blanks of their own ignorance with glaringly intentional dishonesty, I gotta say a huge portion of the stories on this channel leave one thinking "I bet the other side of this story changes the entire narrative drastically."

[@blesper3415]

DC 5 perception check? No. Just stop it right there without the role

[@zanzazaar]

FFS, could you people stop using "they" for single person? Due to that bullshit sometimes its hard to understand some parts

[@mikaneko]

In fairness, "they" is actually correct grammatically if you don't know if the person is male or female.

[@zanzazaar]

They should know what gender are they, if they played with them

[@DellikkilleD]

first?