That Pedal Show - Real Binson Echorec vs Catalinbread, Boonar & Echosex

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That Pedal Show

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@lundsweden
@lundsweden 3 жыл бұрын
1970: Try the Echorec, it is the most high fidelity echo available! 2022: Let's use the Echorec, its a great Lofi delay with grit and texture!
@GavinMcLeod
@GavinMcLeod 8 жыл бұрын
My Catalinbread was easily the most I had ever shelled out for a delay pedal but oh my god. Easily the best delay I've used even without using the multiple head setting. Thank you guys for comparing it to the real thing!
@mrnelsonius5631
@mrnelsonius5631 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had one on my touring bass board for 7 years. 250+ shows a year (until Covid) and same one still there. Adore it
@jaylemiski963
@jaylemiski963 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I can get lost in my echorec for days… easily worth the money 🔥
@Soundgas
@Soundgas 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the most amazing show, guys. So good to see you enjoying the Binson - refreshing to see your reactions to it, and to hear the sounds you coaxed out of it. Took me back to when I first got a good Binson after years of disappointment buying duff ones. So happy to have been able to help out.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+Soundgas Thanks so much Tony - Mick here. It was a truly enlightening experience for me. And him. Wonderful!
@057wolf
@057wolf Жыл бұрын
I want one of these so bad just to build up a giant Syd Barret swell and unleash it.
@ianwicks2998
@ianwicks2998 8 жыл бұрын
I own an original Binson Echorec P.E. 603-T and can vouch for the fact that no modern pedal I have tried or heard can match it in terms of quality of the sound. So a very interesting show guys, loved it.
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 7 жыл бұрын
Have you tried a Boonar and/or Catalinbread Echorec alongside it? I'm tossing up between these two, as to which to get ... ? Anyone tried both? Ideally, alongside an actual Binson?!
@cristouk
@cristouk 6 жыл бұрын
I played in a dub reggae band years ago and we had a Binson - it was brilliant. Our engineer used to take the top off the unit, dub a guitar or keyboards into it and then spin the drum around backwards for some really spacy reverse echo :-)
@michaelshearer4564
@michaelshearer4564 7 жыл бұрын
You hope we enjoyed this? Are you kidding? Simply brilliant! What incredible memories this brings back. I was 15 in 1972 and had just moved to Phoenix, Arizona from the mid west. I had a new band, an old Strat and a worn out Dark Side Of The Moon LP. I had literally worn out the grooves in the album where the solos were from playing them over and aver trying to learn them. I actually owned one of these in the mid 70's. I think it was a T7 model. That's what I remember anyway. Hands down the coolest peice of outboard gear I've ever owned. It really shaped the way I wrote songs, then and now. Wish I still had it. It just wore out and at that time I had no way of repairing it. I just odered a "Boonar" yesterday and have big expectations. I think it will sound great with my old rack mount BK Butler "Tube Driver" in front of it. Great video guys. I just found your channel but I've subscribed and will be back for more! Thank you both for the ride back in time. Your both allot younger than I am, but you get it!
@burakyetginn
@burakyetginn 8 жыл бұрын
Hey! I'm that ''someone'' who suggested echorec episod. I'm glad you guys made it! It's such a great experience to hear ''that'' sound from you. Cheers!!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+Burak Yetgin Splendid, thank you. This one was nothing but a pleasure. :0)
@joshmuz9018
@joshmuz9018 5 жыл бұрын
That thing is intriguing, like every note is an enigma. Most times lead guitar becomes a snoozefest after a few minutes but I am listening to every passage engrossed in where it's going, like a musical journey, perhaps the best guitar effect I have ever heard
@danabnormal5892
@danabnormal5892 8 жыл бұрын
When I think back to my guitar tone before that pedal show the improvement has been immense. I was doing so much wrong. Now I use more effects but at the same time i have a much clearer, more present, better feeling, more reliable, and beautiful sounding tone that I don't think I would ever have achieved without that pedal show. And I haven't spent much more money than I would usually spend on gear in a year. All I've really done is apply what I've learned. That's that pedal show.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+dan abnormal That's awesome Dan, thank you. That's really the whole point of us doing this - to try to just light a few bulbs in people's inspiration. If we're doing that, we're doing our job. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
@TheHitmann069
@TheHitmann069 8 жыл бұрын
The Binson sounds much warmer and completely synergistic to the guitar and amp. Gave me instant goosebumps. None of the pedals had the same feel. I purposely listen to all of your videos with my AKG cans even though YT compresses much of your recording, the separation of notes using the Binson was on another level. Thanks for sharing this gents. Made my day.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+TheHitmann069 People keep asking us why we don't much like modelling. This is basically the answer. Cheers!
@SoundsandImages
@SoundsandImages 8 жыл бұрын
I go out for an hour and the page is lit up like a Christmas tree! Perfect lunchtime video and settling down for a round of repeats... Can't believe Mick didn't know what and Echorec is.. Only gave Pink Floyd their sound on vocals, bass, tape loops and of David Gilmour's and Syd Barrett's sound!! Could kiss the top of Dan's head for this one! Thanks to Sound Gas for making the Binson available.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+SoundsandImages it's a constant journey. It's all a journey. Never been interested in delay til I started hanging out with Dan!
@SoundsandImages
@SoundsandImages 8 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is Mick, it depends heavily on what you listen to and also what you play genre wise with whatever band you play with.. Not sure it will fit on your pedal board though!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+SoundsandImages I //might// have acquired the Catalinbread. I think this is the delay sound I've been seeking, but never realised!
@SoundsandImages
@SoundsandImages 8 жыл бұрын
Nice! Great sounding pedal, however did you see the secret new Epoch that is coming that was outed at NAMM? I feel your excitement and new found love for delays. of course we could discuss putting two different delays together at the same time... Then you really would be lost and the wife would be off faster than a small sports car with a big engine! Check out Andy Othling's channel, he is an ambient guitar whizz....
@SoundsandImages
@SoundsandImages 8 жыл бұрын
Mick, if you really want to drool and cry into the wallet, have a look at the "Specialbinson" channel....
@jensenbell
@jensenbell 8 жыл бұрын
That was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed the discussion on creativity and new and old technology's effect on it. Thank you so much.
@stuartnarduzzo4868
@stuartnarduzzo4868 8 жыл бұрын
As a gear nerd myself it always brings me great pleasure when I see the two of you losing your minds over gear! Another GREAT episode.
@eoghanbradley3509
@eoghanbradley3509 8 жыл бұрын
Wow that's the first time a piece of gear has really stood out over everything else, it's impossible listening via KZbin to get that feeling that you would stood in the room but the ECHOREC really comes across. Incredibly lush sounding.... I can only imagine what you guys heard. Love the videos.. keep up the good work.
@whiskersb5296
@whiskersb5296 8 жыл бұрын
How about a Dark Side of the Moon episode- take us through the prominent effects on Dark Side (phaser, univibe, is there echorec on it?) and you could compare various pedals that will get you those sounds, including regular ol' things like the phase 90 and more elaborate things like the Keeley dark side mod station.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+Whiskers B Maybe we could get one of the leading Floyd tribute guys in to help. Way over my head (Mick here). Cheers!
@Soundgas
@Soundgas 8 жыл бұрын
Great idea, but you'd really need to get Phil Taylor (DG's guitar tech and right hand man) to get the absolute lowdown...
@mabecka
@mabecka 8 жыл бұрын
Leslie pedals v.s the real deal please please please please please please please please! Neo vent, Strymon Lex, DLS Rotospin, Leslie (pedal), Since Mr. Guilmore used them and is using the Doppolas nowadays. Did i say please????
@bugeyedmudafuka2
@bugeyedmudafuka2 8 жыл бұрын
would also need a much bigger room to fit his rig ha
@sampetrus7516
@sampetrus7516 8 жыл бұрын
Get David Domminney Fowler, lead guitarist for Aussie Floyd!
@andrespablos4093
@andrespablos4093 7 жыл бұрын
14:25 I was waiting for that glorious moment since the beginning of this video. Thank you guys! love the show
@buxtonroadband
@buxtonroadband 8 жыл бұрын
I appreciate learning the history of these old pieces of equipment and how they actually physically worked. It gives a lot more context to the sound of the tools that are replicating them now. (And helps to more easily understand things like multi-head delay) Keep up the good work guys. :)
@carloshenao18
@carloshenao18 6 жыл бұрын
Incredibly good episode. Thanks guys for all the work you put into this.
@stalkek
@stalkek 8 жыл бұрын
Yes! The show I was especially waiting for. Big kudos for getting in all the key machines including the monster original! I was trying to hold off till this show got aired but couldn't hold myself back & ordered the Boonar a week ago.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+stalkek Excellent! You won't be sorry. Try it with an EP boost or similar. Something about that Echorec preamp makes all the difference. Cheers!
@chrishepburn1503
@chrishepburn1503 8 жыл бұрын
morning coffee and TPS are the reason i wake up on Fridays. I fully agree with Mick, the Binson Echorec is the most beautiful piece of gear I have ever seen
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+Chris Hepburn Cheers Chris, hope that roast is good this morning!
@StealthParrot
@StealthParrot 8 жыл бұрын
I think the Echorec is the most accurate approximation of the original. Great demo guys, thanks.
@nicolaveronese9273
@nicolaveronese9273 8 жыл бұрын
Great episode guys! That Echorec is pure magic, I've only played once the Echorec2 (here in Italy they're not impossible to find) but yours seems to have more controls (not sure!?) and a different richer sound! See you next Friday, and again, great work!
@waxdartproductions
@waxdartproductions 6 жыл бұрын
Watching this again because its awesome.
@ewhip17
@ewhip17 8 жыл бұрын
TPS is just about my favorite show regardless of the media. It's the only thing that I anxiously await new episodes of. Please keep it up guys - I really appreciate it. Oh and btw... just got patch cables for the G2. This weekend it will be alive and cranking!
@benspinks342
@benspinks342 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid!! On the Boonar if you turn the age pot on the side all the way vintage, the internal dip to vintage and the tone down you can get a lot closer. It’s set up to sound like a new unit out of the box.
@johandonceel5294
@johandonceel5294 Жыл бұрын
I agree, this vid doesn't show the boonar at it's best.
@phogue1
@phogue1 8 жыл бұрын
Okay, the point around 29:23 when you compare the sound of the Muffuletta/Phase 90/Binson right after the same chain but using the Boonar may be my favorite thing in any of your videos. The joy expressed even though we can't hear you laughing/going apeshit when you hear that glorious sound is internet magic.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+Paul Hogue It was bloody magic in the room too. Wish we could get the whole world in that room to feel it too!
@tgiencke
@tgiencke 8 жыл бұрын
Paul Hogue: This is the exact point that I did a USA dealer search and bought a Boonar (replacing my edited Flashback).
@phogue1
@phogue1 8 жыл бұрын
Oh, I'll have to get a Muffuletta. I already have the Catalinbread Echorec.
@mrnelsonius5631
@mrnelsonius5631 4 жыл бұрын
Echorec’s are my favorite delay effects of all time. There’s some pingy upper harmonic modulation thing that happens that’s pure magic to me. Sounds like tape echo and spring reverb had a beautiful baby. A friend has a very nice studio and had an original unit for years, but it was constantly breaking and/or needed to be cleaned so he never used it!! Think he ended up selling it. Meanwhile I’ve had the Catalinbread on my touring bass pedal board for 7 years 😂
@gussywells5701
@gussywells5701 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan & Mick, Gussy Wells here, just an absolute treat to watch you guys play the Echorec, I have an old EP-3 as you point out correctly it is so easy to get lost while playing... cheers!!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+Gussy Wells Cheers Gussy. Lucky man. We'd love an EP-3.
@huldraslaat225
@huldraslaat225 8 жыл бұрын
Hi dan! Hi Mick! Thanks again for all the days and days of content. Quick request, lifting heavy rigs is rough for me, could y'all do a lightest weight but heaviest/or maybe just best sound board? I think it'd be entertaining and helpful. Love to y'all again!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+Asa Martin Hi ASA, maybe one day. All our gear is stupidly heavy but as every year passes it gets more of a struggle!
@mabecka
@mabecka 8 жыл бұрын
Then you would be delighted to do a show about Leslie pedals instead of hauling around a real Leslie! ;)
@Aleph_Null_Audio
@Aleph_Null_Audio 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe include the best dollies and hand trucks for amps? XP
@llxejg
@llxejg 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for responding to the requests for doing this (no doubt I was one of many all those months ago!). I have Catalinbread and Echosex2. The latter is less digital, more organic etc than the former and I regularly get lost in the moment playing it. The Catalinbread is good for those 5% of the time moments when I want the crazy repeat patterns. But the main conclusion from this is that when I win the lottery I need to put an original Binson on the shopping list. Anyway, huge thanks and chuffed you've fallen under the spell as well.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+Edward Goodwin Cheers Edward. Much love today for sure. Wooooop!
@SydBarrettArchives
@SydBarrettArchives 8 жыл бұрын
What they don't say is which is the closest pedal to the original, and after owning and playing with all of the above, the Boonar comes the closest, in case anyone was wondering.
@tipsypirate8080
@tipsypirate8080 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@ontheroad579
@ontheroad579 6 жыл бұрын
The Boonar is awesome for being a pedal and way better than the others.
@tdkdgh
@tdkdgh 5 жыл бұрын
@@ontheroad579 The impression I've gotten elsewhere.
@MrFrenchHarp
@MrFrenchHarp 3 жыл бұрын
Boonar by far. Wish they would put out the Boonar Deluxe!!!
@jorriffhdhtrsegg
@jorriffhdhtrsegg 2 жыл бұрын
I like the simple head switches. Definitely a lot easier to use! Seems bit pricier than catalinbread though
@SingleCoilVoodoo
@SingleCoilVoodoo 8 жыл бұрын
Likely my favorite video from the both of you to date!! Amazing!! I greatly appreciate what you bring to the masses.
@mcpribs
@mcpribs 8 жыл бұрын
From Tone Tribune: Catalinbread’s Echorec even retains a similar preamp circuit to the original that can be used in buffered mode to help drive long cables while giving your signal path a warm, fat boost that you will not want to turn off. One neat trick you can do is turn the internal gain trimmer all the way up and switch to true bypass setting inside the pedal. Now when you turn it on your face will melt in a blast of vintage fuzz and echo that you can tame with your volume knob almost like a vintage Fuzzface!
@chrisjohnstone6164
@chrisjohnstone6164 8 жыл бұрын
That was my favourite The Pedal Show Vid ... awsome!!!
@emresound
@emresound 8 жыл бұрын
I used to own a PE-603T like the one in the video. The sound they have is unique and still heavenly. It was amazing and still kick myself for not picking up the other 4 from a junk shop in Brussels (some old PA gear stashed in a 2nd hand junk shop, along with a plethora of meazzi gear). Nothing comes close to the sound of Binson original units. Thanks for featuring one in this video.
@neuk01642
@neuk01642 8 жыл бұрын
Bollox. So Now I want this... and there's no way I can sneak this in and just glue it to my board and be all 'What? That? New? No, it's been there for months...'
@jameskavanagh4300
@jameskavanagh4300 2 жыл бұрын
I am just so pleased to see the wampler bravado head behind mick. Ive got one and I am never letting it go, takes pedals like the amp I have been waiting my whole life for.
@davidrohland9319
@davidrohland9319 8 жыл бұрын
You guys are SO amazingly happy today… And it's quite contagious! Thank you, thank you, thank you very much!
@Nui.
@Nui. 8 жыл бұрын
SOUNDGAS....... You guys rock! Many thanks for making this happen and for taking the risk to send the real 'Daddy' off to play with the TPS lads.
@DerRufProductions
@DerRufProductions 7 жыл бұрын
Damn - thank you again for putting me again into full GAS-sickness. That Muffuletta is still one of the greatest sounding fuzzes you ever had on the show - and - in combination with the Boonar - really something special. And I don't even start to dare dreaming about the Binson :-)
@juddalexander5642
@juddalexander5642 8 жыл бұрын
Something in the air. I just happened to have spent the past couple days exploring my Catalinbread Echorec....getting lost in its sounds. Beautiful sounds. thanks for sharing!
@craiger2399
@craiger2399 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of your coolest episodes. Just love the experimentation with the Binson, and then the Boonar. You both sound great.
@braddietzmusic2429
@braddietzmusic2429 8 жыл бұрын
14:27!!!! Glorious!!!! Absolutely glorious!!!!
@joewilliams3204
@joewilliams3204 8 жыл бұрын
great show as always. it's not always apparent over KZbin the subtle differences between sounds, but the echorec definitely sounded much "richer/thicker" than the others. Amazing!
@40spinup
@40spinup 8 жыл бұрын
Love seeing these old effects units. More if you can. Brilliant.
@itsdaviaquino
@itsdaviaquino 8 жыл бұрын
I have the Catalinbread Echorec and it's one of the most inspiring pedals I've ever owned!
@stevendobias2960
@stevendobias2960 7 жыл бұрын
Was so inspired by this episode I purchased a Boonar straight away. I learn so much from you guys. Cheers!!
@tronpesto3978
@tronpesto3978 8 жыл бұрын
For what I do every few weeks at the local bar, my Timeline is kinda all I need. But what about what I want??? While I'll never "need" a Binson or need to populate my board with the various (and wonderful each in their own way) iterations of "delays" from tape to drum to analog to digital etc. it's wonderful to experience this along with you guys! Well done, and thanks for a great show!
@williamwagnon2809
@williamwagnon2809 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys SOOO very much Thank you Sondgas! That was truly amazing. I'll never get the chance to play a Binson echorec, but now I know what sounds acceptable.
@martinreid1740
@martinreid1740 8 жыл бұрын
Another great show, I've been looking forward to this one for a while. I've had the Catalina bread on my board for about six months and for sheer practicality and price it's hard to beat. Now you will have to find a Miazzi to compare to the Binson.
@MrThaiwan
@MrThaiwan 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, finally a real good show of a Binson, ever since I learned about them felt impressed. Thanks!
@ShiningEyeBrigade
@ShiningEyeBrigade 4 жыл бұрын
Your reactions and expressions when you hit those classic lush tones with the real Binson are the closest I;l get to knowing what it feels like to play it. Priceless. Thanks so much for sharing your love of sound.
@guillaume.quinette
@guillaume.quinette 8 жыл бұрын
Amazing, as usual... Want a special episode on the RE-201 Space Echo! Please make it happen guys! :)
@KestrelJo
@KestrelJo 8 жыл бұрын
The Nemesis has 2 new Binson engines... one for one head and one for four heads ... they sound great. I really loved this show. It's very interesting seeing how the knobs and features work on a real Binson Echorec. It gives me a lot more understanding of the influence of the originals on our pedals today. Thank you!
@Soundgas
@Soundgas 8 жыл бұрын
Sadly we didn't have an Echorec 2 available for the show - although it's essentially the same as the Binson 603, it has the 12 position rotary switch for head combination selection which is where the Catalinbread took inspiration from.
@arensel84
@arensel84 8 жыл бұрын
Soundgas too bad you didn't have a speed tunable w/ bias to loan them. I have one of Marcello's Super Specials. That is a great example of old with new features. You guys are doing great keeping old gear alive for new generations!
@nickfit3
@nickfit3 8 жыл бұрын
that point when Dan has the boonar on and kicks in the phaser is just orgasmatronic! ! it was simply so good, it deserves it's own made up word!!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+nicholas ditolla Phasorechomufftastic?
@nickfit3
@nickfit3 8 жыл бұрын
That Pedal Show well if you go in order muffaphasorechotastic!! awsome! !
@arnaudnoar3345
@arnaudnoar3345 8 жыл бұрын
you're so emotionnaly touch by grace of the echoplex, it's just make me love you more than before this épisode! passion, grace and fire!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+Arnaud Noar Thank you! It's what gets us up in the morning.
@BONDI0065
@BONDI0065 4 жыл бұрын
What ever it is you've got the chops!!!Nice touch boys!!!
@taggmanibanez
@taggmanibanez 8 жыл бұрын
It would be amazing if you guys did an episode on speakers (pairing, SPL, wattage, 2x12 vs 4x12) and what to look for as far as matching amps with curtain speakers, and a list of favorites. There's a lot out there about speaker selection but unfortunately there are many conflicting opinions, and its not practical (for me at least) to go the trial and error route. I know it's not pedal related but it does affect your whole sound, Thanks guys, grown to love this channel (Top Gear for guitar)
@coreymineard
@coreymineard 8 жыл бұрын
Aaah, my Friday morning ritual, That Pedal Show, and some coffee!
@POGFROGULPOP
@POGFROGULPOP 8 жыл бұрын
Just amazing how thick and huge the guitar sounds due to the preamp of the Binson, very hefty in comparison to the pedals. I think I'm more impressed by that alone, than the delay itself which has the one dark, gritty sound. Totally in love with that preamp, and puts my EP preamp with NOS parts to shame.
@manbeast713
@manbeast713 8 жыл бұрын
Some seriously special tones created with the phase 90 and the JHS!! Massive tones, and Dans face when you went through the Binson at the end!! Classic happy face!!
@bigupbebop4706
@bigupbebop4706 8 жыл бұрын
Love the Edgar Wallace Riff Mick. I love that theme tune. Took me back to my childhood. Great info again guys keep it coming.
@bearmadden1776
@bearmadden1776 7 жыл бұрын
Mick is so genuinely in love with the echorec! It's always cool to see someone with so much experience discover something new and be like a five year old on a candy store. :)
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+Bear McBride Roger that! I'm currently putting together a board for the new Two Rock and the Echorec sound shall feature somewhere!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+That Pedal Show Although sadly not the old one of course!
@bearmadden1776
@bearmadden1776 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, I can't wait to hear it with the Two-Rock. I remember you mentioned there's gonna be a whole video about it. That thing with the echorec sound... I don't think it can even get any better!
@michael_caz_nyc
@michael_caz_nyc 8 жыл бұрын
I Love the show. I can Never get enough of That Pedal Show !!! - ( let's face it ), Delays ( and maybe overdrives ) are 2 pedals I can't live without. . . . It Never Ends. So many choices & options - Great stuff " Once Again " guys.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Caz Thanks Michael - it's all good fun right?!
@happygolucky6271
@happygolucky6271 8 жыл бұрын
You guys are so enjoyable and so knowledgable!! Thank you so much for the show. I learn a lot.
@Stasisofseasons
@Stasisofseasons 4 жыл бұрын
OH yup found it! I thought there was one where you guys sat down and did this one! Made a comment on your newest one about this!
@bolijack
@bolijack 8 жыл бұрын
in my youth as guitarist of a cover Band we were lucky to use an Original Binson Echorec, together with Binson PA. Greatest Equipment ever! The nowadays digital stuff cant get near that vintage Sound😎
@JohnWWarrenGuitar
@JohnWWarrenGuitar 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome episode. Would love to try a Binson some day, perhaps I will be able to, though probably not. Even if one were able to acquire one, good luck, there's NO WAY you could travel with it. I've recently ordered a Boonar. Still waiting for it.
@Beizeiten78
@Beizeiten78 8 жыл бұрын
I'm interested to see how the T-Rex Echo Rec will turn out. I have the Boonar, and am absolutely in love. I've been using tape for years, but have always preferred an Echo Rec, but until recently, there just weren't great copies. What a time to be alive.
@SwirlyWhirlyXYZ
@SwirlyWhirlyXYZ 8 жыл бұрын
Randall Yeager I say Dan and Mick will have to revisit this when the TRex Echorec (with drum!) is out. Can't wait. One of the best episodes, priceless faces when you go back to the original beast. When giants walked the earth...
@SwirlyWhirlyXYZ
@SwirlyWhirlyXYZ 8 жыл бұрын
Randall Yeager I had an idea about how to handle the speed issue. Just use a transmission from a VW bus manufactured the same year as the Binson. Only issue is, do you install the effect in the bus, or remove it first? Maybe we need a Binson preamp pedal? I'm gonna have to watch this thing a few more times
@hukl3945
@hukl3945 8 жыл бұрын
I just bought the boonar - couldn't resist the lush tones. Thanks for that episode!
@alibo_
@alibo_ 8 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! I am speechless.... What a fantastic episode. I will never be the same... I think I am going to get a Catalinbread Echorec.
@PaisleyWilde
@PaisleyWilde 8 жыл бұрын
That vintage echorec just sounds extraordinary. I am looking forward to seeing what T. Rex does with it though I don't expect to be able to afford one!! Beautiful sounds today gentlemen!
@keitharmstrong5660
@keitharmstrong5660 6 жыл бұрын
Right? Been waiting on this one. It's one of the only things I look for at NAMM every year.
@whiskersb5296
@whiskersb5296 8 жыл бұрын
I love hearing these sounds that sound just like records I'm familiar with. That feeling of hey, there it is, I've heard that before! Good stuff.
@schneid2777
@schneid2777 8 жыл бұрын
So now you need to stack the CE-1 and EP-3 with the Echorec!
@alexmurphy5289
@alexmurphy5289 5 жыл бұрын
I have stacked my waza Ce1 boss and the Belle epoch and it sounds incredible. Very Alex Lifeson from Rush sounding.. Nice and warm with humbuckers, but if you add a touch of treble it's perfect
@johnbuxton2529
@johnbuxton2529 8 жыл бұрын
It`s not often that you hear a piece of gear in the `We`re not worthy` class but the Echorec is jaw-dropping, face smacking good ...... absolutely stunning. I agree absolutely also that the pre-amp sounds astonishingly good. Interesting that Xotic have duplicated the EP3 pre-amp with their EP Booster but no-one has attempted to reproduce the Echorec pre-amp .... Maybe because there are so few Echorecs around ( and most of those are confined to studios ) so they aren`t often heard ? Dan coming in his jeans was a sight I could have done without but I can understand his reaction. Sometimes there just aren`t words ................. Thanks guys. Interesting and informative as always.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+John Buxton Cheers John, much appreciated!
@BruceHamiltonmusic
@BruceHamiltonmusic 8 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this since I suggested the Echorec on the Echoplex video, epic!
@JamieSingsSometimes
@JamieSingsSometimes 8 жыл бұрын
That was awesome. Thanks for that episode guys!
@DoTheAsbestosDance
@DoTheAsbestosDance 8 жыл бұрын
Really loved this episode guys, look forward to hearing more discussions over certain eras of music and the popular technology at the time :D
@bradbennett6526
@bradbennett6526 8 жыл бұрын
This episode made the hairs on my neck stand up. Amazing sounds! Thanks, gentlemen. I have the Catalinbread Echorec and have always thought it sounded great--just wished it had detents for the Program Select knob. Really nice to hear them back to back with the Binson.
@GazMoz78
@GazMoz78 8 жыл бұрын
Absolute sonic joy!!!! I've heard of the Echorec because I'd heard of the Catalinbread pedal though I had no knowledge of what it was or how it sounded. Man, it sounds EPIC in every way. I thought the Boonar did the best job of imitating it. Sometimes over youtube you can struggle to really hear what makes something sound special. But, that Binson is different gravy! Great video guys :-)
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+Gary Moseley Cheers Gary! This one was a bit special, no doubt.
@GazMoz78
@GazMoz78 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I was expecting a delay of some kind, but this thing is something else!
@yrdbyrd_bjj
@yrdbyrd_bjj 8 жыл бұрын
I wish I could like it more than once. Well done gents.
@rawkzilla2319
@rawkzilla2319 4 жыл бұрын
1st of all...I have been entertained & enlightened by all of your episodes. But this 1 😳🎶🤯 Wow...I have read about this effect but had never heard one especially in a fun demo session. Great job & Bloody Hell is right...Love that...!!!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you WA! They are truly special things. :0)
@mantashaft
@mantashaft 8 жыл бұрын
I've never heard a live demo of tape echo except a full on show which would not be the same as something like you guys just did. I have to somehow have a similar experience. Thanks for another great show
@CammojoDragon97
@CammojoDragon97 7 жыл бұрын
Never before have I heard someone other than Gilmour get those four notes so utterly, fantastically perfect... might start a kickstarter to fund purchasing an Echorec for myself ;)
@CammojoDragon97
@CammojoDragon97 8 жыл бұрын
There's so many pedals out there that get classic tones (or close enough) that, apart from a few exceptions (Vintage Electric Mistress being one of them) I can't justify the extra money to myself. This, however... I'd fork out the cash for this in a heartbeat! Every single snippet brought shivers down my spine, and though the pedals on the floor sound great, nothing freaking compares!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+CammojoDragon97 Excellent. Does seem a bit like that with this one... :9)
@CammojoDragon97
@CammojoDragon97 7 жыл бұрын
funnily enough I've just found a pedal that really captures the swell mode of the Binson, the Hungry Robot The Wash!
@davidhawker1119
@davidhawker1119 8 жыл бұрын
wow the Bison echorec is awesome. thanks for these shows they are brilliant, more addictive than a house wife watching EastEnders!!
@vincenttuckwood
@vincenttuckwood 8 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this episode, guys - wonderful tones!
@社会のカス
@社会のカス 8 жыл бұрын
Best video from you guys so far. Keep up the good work
@nilonbomber
@nilonbomber 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the show guys. I particularly appreciate having an alternative to listening to BBC World Service which tends to traumatise me these days. I'm a spoilt violinmaker these days, my wife allows backline in the living room. I was in bands from age 11 to 31 (without a break) so got through some gear. A couple of things. I love my AC30 too and used to run it with a Marshall 50watt master volume combo and then later with a Fender twin. I bought a Marshall Power Brake for the Vox which worked really well. I used to find the sweet point of driving the amp and then just adjust the volume on the power brake. Can't remember losing loads of tone, Just that people seem to suggest online that you do. Another thing. I used to use a Watkjins valve Copycat. When I was a teenager in the 70s Copycats seemed quite common, then Watkins re-released the valve one which I used throughout my career. You don't seem to hear much about them. I remember ringing up the factory to order one and actually spoke to Charlie Watkins, who was really friendly and helpful. Anyway, I wanted to say it has some great features. First of all 3heads,. I generally use two together which gives more of a reverb effect than just one repeat, which I like. I also use a T rex Reptile 2 just before it with a longer echo which I set with the tap tempo. Incidentally the Copycat also has a speed control which really helps to fine tune the feel of the echo. The tape loops are really easy to make up so I just made a bunch and put them in the box ready to change if needed. It was never an issue, and there were times when I was doing 60 gigs a year.
@jesselawson224
@jesselawson224 7 жыл бұрын
Please do an oil can delay episode! Compare an old unit to modern pedals. Please! This would be the only show to do it justice!
@really.not.important
@really.not.important 8 жыл бұрын
Echorec vs. Echoplex vs. Space Echo. When?
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+The Nutman Now there is a video we want to make! Logistics nightmare, but not impossible.... mmmmmmm
@really.not.important
@really.not.important 8 жыл бұрын
Well grab a screwdriver and some tape and get to it!
@jdavis.fw303
@jdavis.fw303 8 жыл бұрын
Drool!!!!!!!!!!
@MikeTaffet
@MikeTaffet 8 жыл бұрын
The Binson SpacePlex?
@h4ck.b0x75
@h4ck.b0x75 8 жыл бұрын
+That Pedal Show I have a Roland Space Echo RE--201 that has just been 100% serviced that you guys are more than welcome to borrow.
@tgiencke
@tgiencke 8 жыл бұрын
First, Thank You for the great show! I have learned so much from (re)watching your shows. Right after you switched from the boonar to the Echorec, I ordered one online. It arrived today, and it is replacing my Flashback (custom Toneprinted to act like an Echorec). I thought I would share my boonar settings: Input Control: 12:00 Drum Age: almost fully counter-clockwise = dirty/worn "organic" drum Volume: #2 Tone: full Treble Swell: #6 Drum Speed: #8.25 = 200BPM = 300ms = original Echorec delay limit Playback head: #4 Swell/Repeats: Swell (light) off Original/Modern DIP Switch: Original Question: Did you try the Original/Modern DIP Switch? I like the original setting for a more "decades old" tone (& increase the treble on the amp). Anyone want to share their boonar settings?
@alanredversangel
@alanredversangel 8 жыл бұрын
I listened to this without watching and I can confirm that the shizzle is the bizzle.
@calebleger
@calebleger 8 жыл бұрын
Yet another killer show. I swear you two have the most enjoyable and informative gear videos on the internet, and I count down the days every time till the next one comes out. Still waiting on that show on attenuators! Any ETA?
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+thedriftersmusic Thank you TDM! We are working up to the attenuator episode. Latest purchase is a 50-watt Plexi. It could definitely use some attenuating!
@VictorC53
@VictorC53 6 жыл бұрын
After watching this an Echorec 2 came up for sale near me and I nearly sold a big chunk of my pedals for it...sadly someone got to it about ten minutes before I did but hey got to have a play of it!
@SCOREWIZARDSMUSIC
@SCOREWIZARDSMUSIC 8 жыл бұрын
This might be the best episode to date. 8:20
@alexyun8092
@alexyun8092 8 жыл бұрын
Yes! I asked for a muti-head delay episode, featuring Echorec and Boonar a while ago :P Thank you so much! Fun fact, David Gilmour's been using the Boonar for some time.
@Davimre
@Davimre 8 жыл бұрын
I dunno what's different with this episode, but both Dan and Mick's guitars are sounding so good.
@wolfhorsky
@wolfhorsky 8 жыл бұрын
Lovely sounds guys. And the black hole joke was so funny :-) More of that humor, please. BTW On BigSky Magneto setting can sound so damn close...
@paul.h.h
@paul.h.h 8 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that I *needed* a Binson Echorec! Er, thanks Dan & Mick…
@paul.h.h
@paul.h.h 8 жыл бұрын
Now I’m going to have to keep an eye on T-Rex I guess.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 жыл бұрын
+Paul H Us too - exciting huh!
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