That's our Rivet! ~ An Updated Train Sim World 4 Rant

Well, it's been a long time coming, but I finally got around to finishing my updated rant on Rivet Games and their (often) poor-quality or just underwhelming add-ons in Train Sim World.
I'm still passionate about this game, and I enjoy playing it, but I'm also tired of the developers often releasing DLC with unreasonably high prices, underwhelming concepts and unfixed bugs.
(I was looking in the comments section on Rivet's video about their new liveries for the Class 66, and I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one taking Rivet to task for their lazy rubbish).

[@markushellwig9600]

Concerning your rant on the BR 204: As someone who had the pleasure to operate this loco IRL eventually as an associated heritage rail engineer many moons ago, I can confirm that this rendition is spot on in almost every aspect! You may find the central cab unusual, but here in Germany it is very common for midrange Diesels up to 1.200 hp. The elevated and unobstructed viewpoint is very nice when shunting. Due to its modernisation in the 1990s, the instrumentation in fact is a quite odd mixture of analogue and digital instruments, and the digital speed readout of the PZB90 is absolutely authentic. Same goes for the Diesel sound: That's exactly how this engine sounds like! Especially when idling. As far as I'm concerned, there's only one thing missing: Because of the turbo lagging, the real thing spat out large plumes of black soot when the power ("Fahrstufen") was applied to soon and impatiently. My old driving instructor always insisted on incresasing the power one notch after the other with quite some time waiting on each step to allow the turbo to speed up and supply enough air for combustion. I really like this rendition! Brings back nice memories...

[@markushellwig9600]

FYI: Just found some nice footage of the pre-modernised 204 (as DR BR 202) in its natural habitat: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5aynZRnZ5eagc0si=SY6Y4KArUflDS2jk

[@perrieguilfoyle4390]

Whats it like operating that locomotive

[@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga]

Thank you for explaining what the BR204's like in real life. Now her centre-cab layout makes a lot more sense to me.

[@markushellwig9600]

Kia Ora! Glad i could sort this out.

[@Kurimuzonsky]

Not implementing the request stop system on the Arosa was a massive opportunity missed. I am maybe one of many who bought that DLC, wanting to try that new experience.

[@nicokeel9609]

yeah DTG also lost a customer with me. IDK i quit liked playing the game when it was still called tsw2. But something changed and I don't feel like dtg/rivet cares about customer like me who loves accurate, fun, "made with love" simulation anymore. I am going back to playing actually good sims like MSFS, DCS, ETS or heck any other sim. This money scam dtg is pulling off has to stop !!

[@perrieguilfoyle4390]

I have decided not to pay full price for the dlcs anymore i have decided to wait untill they go down in price before i buy them

[@benedekhalda-kiss9737]

The reason for the high and middle cab of the br 204 is for shunting. You cna see over the cars somewhat and also you can see easily both ways

[@jordanperosiel-williams7236]

Theres something i absolutely love about your channel and you reviews, you're not afraid to speak you mind no matter who/what criticizes you. What's ironic is that this mentality is needed since APPARENTLY a lot of people will throw riots if you don't like certain things or dare i say I say it give constructive criticism. It's really pathetic of this world, and word of note when TSW 4 was released the 1938 TS received an updated soundset. But the point is you yourself is also a good role model for people, it's such a shame how people let others intimidate them

[@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga]

I've seen enough of Brett Cooper's show to know that there are loads of people who always have a bone to pick with something, regardless of whether or not it makes sense. Indeed, her sheer honesty has been a big influence on me and my review style.

[@TheTimmynatoRex]

"Steaming pile of modern Disney films"

[@denbaker7358]

I've heard the reasoning behind the shorter routes is for the players who don't have much time to do long routes.

[@ozdazz]

Better off playing Rivet's TS Classic routes than what they are producing for TSW...seems they are still in the learning phase with the later. Both DTG and Rivet are stuck with having to get something in the store before the production costs outweighs what they will make in sales, which is why we keep seeing these ridiculously short routes or final destinations well short of any logical destination (not just in TSW either, Rivit's Gothardbarn on TS Classic is an example)

[@derekwildstar731]

Thank you for this video. I enjoy hearing your extensive knowledge of different classes of engines and routes. "Vote with your wallets" I totally agree! I won't buy ANY DLC unless it is steeply discounted. 10% doesn't cut it anymore. Keep up the great work!

[@e575fho]

I am so sick of Dovetail I dont even own TSW4! Just a massive rip off imo.

[@markcovington4761]

Completely agree with everything you've said I wish I hadn't bought some of rivets stuff like wcl E to G and the steam add on for wcl but haven't bought any of there products since and refuse to unless they sort there products out

[@lachlantanseytheii4412]

the 38 stocks trailer car lights don’t work as they can only be disabled by cutting out the power to the whole train

[@samhartnett8700]

Congratulations on the mention from Brett! It’s always a great feeling when you’re being noticed by your favourite KZbinr/role model! May I know when exactly she mentions you? Thank you

[@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga]

Around 33 minutes into the stream. I'm not letting this go to my head, because Brett's not a friend or anything like that. She's just a KZbinr and I'm just a fan; that's all.

[@benedekhalda-kiss9737]

Dtg is on a massive downturn

[@mindthegapplease3840]

I REALLY Want the full Island Line made in 1977 with both the class 485 & class 486 in BR Livery and the shuttle service from Ryde Pier Head To Ryde Esplande and NO Smallbrook Junction station (1990s)/Lake station (1987).

[@jakecopeland8068]

Even if dovetail makes Romford to Upminster they will still somehow cock it up

[@TB76Returns]

Yes, yes and yes. But I will wait and see what the UK route that Rivet are making is like before making my decision to buy it or not. But the bigger issue is of course the DTG/Focus Entertainment gravy train. You really should consider doing a rant about said gravy train and how it impacts TSW

[@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga]

I feel like, if I did, I'd be repeating the same points that I made towards the end of this video.

[@TB76Returns]

@@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga Well, up to you whether you do a video or not

[@luispereira9999]

The real problem is lack of competition and, although this is not a real issue, the target audience is casual gamers who are not real experts in the rail scene... this lets pass the shitty physics and repetitive gameplay... For me the worse part, it's the refusal of the developers going outside the usual countries, it completely kills the game for me... I couldn't be bothered moving from Train sim some-parts-of-the-world 2... every new route just feels "same-ish".. Love you videos thought, cheers for the other side of the World ;) (Portugal/Luxembourg)

[@perrieguilfoyle4390]

I wonder when the goblin line will be released

[@creatorpow2211]

Do you feel any of these DLCs would be worth it if purchased in a sale?

[@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga]

Maybe the Arosa Line and its two gameplay packs.

[@isleofwighttransport]

To be honest I don’t play train sim world often now it’s a fucking joke

[@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga]

Fair enough.

[@troygaston7039]

They robbing people cause they only giving u half route and charging high rates where stream they give u full route

[@TB76Returns]

Are Rivet like this on their TS Classic DLCs too, as this video was about their TSW stuff

[@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga]

I have little experience with Rivet's TSC add-ons, apart from Suburban Glasgow Northwest. I will be reviewing their Engadin Line route at some point, to see how it holds up compared to their TSW products.

[@thatlocomotiveguy]

What you were saying about Bahamas being the only Jubilee going down to Cornwall is now no longer true. On my channel, I have footage of Galatea as Sierra Leone racing through Newton Abbot, which is en route to cornwall.

[@Foxy_AR]

I don‘t own any TSW game and frankly, this is the reason why my interest in buying it has almost completely vanished.

[@CAMOGUY54321]

I stopped at tsw 3 and was waiting for a good US route. Now im watching as TSW X is crashing and burning. I really left the community due to the fan boys. Any little criticism you have they will freak out. Two of them being speedy and moron in the discussions tab. Fanboys are a huge reason the game is failing so badly, dtg sees them and thinks they like it and make more sh!t content. Meanwhile, the majority is leaving the game for good due to dtg and fanboys.

[@matei5929]

Are you going to review the WSR given the sale and the remaster?

[@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga]

Yes. I caved when I saw that the WSR route was only $7.19 (NZD) in a sale.

[@matei5929]

@@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga I can't blame you there

[@nigel6446]

I like the WSR even before the upgrade. It a labour of love and fairly accurate.

[@theaverageenjoyer9364]

Understandable that you didn't want to do a full review of the Kassel to Würzburg route. Its long and really not that interesting to actively pay attention to it. But i would love to hear your thoughts on exactly "why" you aren't interested in it at all. I am new to the rail commiunity so i actually thought it was quite good because its that long. xD And if i may request something, it would be a review of the Linke Rheinstrecke Mainz to Koblenz because its my home route, so i had to buy it. But i understand that its expensive and you don't so.. maybe if theres a sale someday? Would love to see it because you speak with so much enthusiasm and knowledge (seems that way to me at least) that i really value your opinions. You can criticise the stuff that i don't know sh** about or don't yet have the eye for. 😅

[@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga]

The reason why I don't like Kassel to Wurzburg is because of just how boring it is. It's only got three stations, and most of the drive is spent rushing through long tunnels or across tall viaducts; there's not much in the way of scenery or service variation. To be fair, I still think it's impressive that DTG made a route that's over 100 miles long. Or at least, it would be impressive if the route was non-linear and you could do loads of different jobs on it (instead of just fast passenger trains or freight trains at night). As for Mainz to Koblenz, I've already got that route (picked it up during the Steam Winter sale, I think, although it's summer in the southern hemisphere). But I haven't had enough experience on that route to make a full review.

[@markushellwig9600]

@@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga The Schnellfahrstrecke is boring because the real route doesn't have any eyecandy as well. It's frankly a sequence of noise barriers, tunnels and high bridges over scenic valleys. Nothing to write home about.As a passenger, I know this route quite well, especially the part between (Hildesheim / Abzw Sorsum-) Kassel-Wilhelmshöhe and Fulda. Both station's look and feel is depicted quite accurate, even down to the powerline mast towering above one of Fulda's platforms. It's a shame that all of Fulda's branchlines, especially the Vogelsbergbahn to Gießen (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gie%C3%9Fen%E2%80%93Fulda_railway) was left out. Instead of the Niddertalbahn (which I really like), their depiction could have led to some nice traffic schemes. As for the ICE 1: The BR 401 IRL develops a distinctive low-frequent growling above 160 km/h and its soundpack reflects it quite good. All in all: A boring route's accurate rendition!

[@aaronb.9707]

Me too man, it's a joke how they release different locomotives when it should be included in the dlc route but which is really sad how the routes feel so rushed and cut off quickly produced which is insane the train sim 4 dlc shouldve been extended to either London or York/Newcastle the thing is the London commuter was a great dlc package when it came out and the Blackpool dlc was okay too just the trains set within the 80's/90's era but it wasn't my cup of tea but a good dlc I'll admit

[@LazyGamerScotland]

Fife circle being the biggest let down yet

[@ethmister]

I didnt even know they did the 204 its so irrelevant

[@nigel6446]

I agree with you about Rivet’s quality. I was extremely disappointed with WCL having known the route since 1954, it is totally ludicrous in terms of accuracy and more like a fictional fantasy effort. They have no desire to correct it and I believe that the reason why is that they are not able to!!! Their designs on routes since have all missed the mark. Where they can replicate stations and locomotives well, they are just so unable to produce a quality route.

[@sexyguy3647]

I only play TSC now (which is also far far from perfect) but the routes & trains are so much better quality than anything in TSW. some of my favourite routes are ATS WCML Midlands & NW, ATS Chat Moss and the ECML merge. all of these have way more replay value than the TSW stuff that's even more linear than a COD campaign The reason they haven't opened up TSW properly to modders is because nobody would buy there half baked DLC again. All the best sims have world class modding scenes that extend the games life endlessly (think FSX and Omsi 2)

[@tdurb0]

We’re basically paying again for a patched TSW2. Shame about Rivet, they made some good TS20xx routes back in the day. I think you’ve just saved me spending any money on Arosa

[@lopsitnuz4377]

i want the snow hill lines and wcml

[@theunknownwarrior632]

One thing that annoys me with dovetail and rivet is a new route with only one new piece of rolling stock, like it’s lacking and makes the experience of the route boring. Oh and the reissue of the 66 every route drives me nuts like where the 67, 68, 56, 57 and the 86/87 for wcml

[@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga]

Yeah, I agree. It's stupid to almost always see only one locomotive or unit included with a route these days (and DTG are maintaining the status quo with Gospel Oak to Barking Riverside, because of course they have to do that). I think the Ripple Lane container yard will be included on the route, so it's probably another excuse to rehash the overused 66.

[@theunknownwarrior632]

@@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga of course they have to do a route so short about 13 miles with the class 710 like why isn’t the 378 added as well as they are used a lot on the London Overground. It’s just another attempt at another cash grab and underwhelming route. The class 66 will be barely be used on the route as well mainly only for like 5 miles if not less. I’d be happy if they added the class 70 cause that does a lot of container freight but I doubt that’ll ever happen just a recycling of the boring ews class 66

[@170ScR]

I genuinely love the Edinburgh - Glasgow Express Route

[@mrtrainandguy]

You have to see how RG make not good route (Inc Morden Isle of wight) make it ugly linear,bad,or terrible sounds.So many players that hate rivert because of terrible details, river game have to be worse third party developer

[@Northerner_Transport_Hub]

1:38 A. Jeez dude, railtour companies send locos all over the country to territories where they wouldn't be seen, cases in point, Sir Nigel Gresley at Crewe on the West Coast Main Line to Carlisle, 44871 and 45231 'The Sherwood Forester' AND 46115 'Scots Guardsman' going into rival territory at York, with the pair of black fives taking the rival Easf Coast Main Line. Besides, Black Fives and Royal Scots are common(ish) visitors to Cornwall on railtours, not forgetting that you mentioned Bahamas also went there in 2021. Also, you say its a reskin pack, when you also get a Christmas light train which has illuminated coaching stock, which would be useful for running on the West Somerset Railway, as they do it there. I've unsubscribed because recently I hardly find you saying anything good at all in your reviews. I don't own TSW4, but I have played all 3 games before it plus TSW4 itself, especially on some of the routes you seem to have issues with. Personally, I don't see any glaring issues with them, but I feel you could inject a little bit more positivity into your videos.