That Time Disney Built a Creepy Government

[@anissaboukra8363]

i'm getting "there is no war in ba sing se" vibes from this

[@Kino_Cartoon]

"there are no poor, depressed, underplayed, or dirty people in Disney world."

[@Shrooblord]

OMIGOD YOU'RE RIGHT

[@diogenesdacynic8656]

The earth king invites you to lake laogai😶

[@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770]

There is no virus in Walt Disney World. There is no virus in Walt Disney World.

[@nuclearcatbaby1131]

I want a Disneyland with a Holocaust train car ride. And a Small World where the creepy dolls are killing each other.

[@RJ_Ehlert]

"The American version of the Vatican," hits hard on so many levels.

[@alexandrebeaudry8377]

This is how I will quote this video.

[@andrewcool4587]

It’s not.

[@oldguy9051]

@@andrewcool4587 Yeah. It's worse.

[@housevisand]

I thought the same thing.

[@richardarriaga6271]

Vatican didn't ban alcohol

[@HRush-lu6fj]

I wanna hear the story about how Michael got permanently kicked out of Universal Studios

[@franzkissel1369]

Seriously

[@hongyoong8300]

Same

[@Shrooblord]

So much.

[@rogerreger9631]

I kinda want to know too, hoping it isn't something really bad. just hoping he was just drunk and disorderly.

[@BrandonWheelr]

I'm there for it

[@scrambled5948]

“Into a realm where princesses are real” I’m pretty sure princesses are real outside of Disneyland

[@lovetoclearclouds7017]

Not even the supposed princesses are really princesses. They’re all pirate families that have claimed the status. And people allowed it because sheeple are stupid.

[@scrambled5948]

@@lovetoclearclouds7017 I bet you’re real fun at parties

[@vasaradragonsbane5580]

@@scrambled5948 *pat* there there beta male, the big bad KZbin Comment can't hurt you

[@scrambled5948]

@@vasaradragonsbane5580 oh. You’re one of those guys, huh?

[@32mybelle]

Um, there are whole Royal families.

[@sobermind9885]

Hey, remember when that "Disney is going to buy and own everything someday" joke was just a joke and not a real probability of a future evolving company towns and strange communities? Good times... how can you get banned for life from Universal studios?

[@raaaaaaaaaam496]

If you shift the place up I’m pretty sure that’s a way to get banned for life

[@markmurex6559]

Asking questions.

[@Hapsetshut]

@@markmurex6559 But it isn't that how you get banned from Disney too?

[@markmurex6559]

@@Hapsetshut Yes.

[@Hapsetshut]

@@markmurex6559 Well alrighty then

[@jackiewignall8186]

I'm an ex cast member and I lived in celebration in an apartment on main street. It was awesome till my first late shift. When I got off at 8pm everything was closed and no one was on the streets it was so eerie I felt like I was in the Truman show.

[@MrTheHeriyo]

It was like the plot of a bioshock game, but in real life. I'd totally play that

[@ahlishaholloway233]

I always imagined Andrew Ryan was based on Walt Disney. With a little Howard Hughes crazy thrown in.

[@MrTheHeriyo]

@@ahlishaholloway233 Yeah, and he had a bit of Zachary Comstock too.

[@agentprismarine2778]

"We happy few' is similar, I would reccomend to check it out.

[@brya9681]

You should read the book fantasticland

[@brya9681]

@@ahlishaholloway233 to was Ayn Rand and Disney accoring to the creator

[@theonetribble5867]

"You load sixteen tons, what do you get Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store."

[@mesmith2526]

"Prime" example of what it's like when you're handed a glass of Kool-Aid but you didn't as for any....

[@UltraPoseidon]

Disney was once told he had the popularity to be elected president. He responded: "Why would I want to be President of the United States? I'm the King of Disneyland!"

[@Armendicus]

He didn't wanna do war crimes...

[@UltraPoseidon]

@John joseph Corona he did believe in conservative family values so we probably would have seen a continuation of the nuclear family. He wasn't a racist, contrary to rumors, so I Don't think he would have obstructed civil rights legislation too much. He would have gone after unions though considering how much he despised them. That might have been his undoing.

[@alejandrocervantes3624]

"why would I serve in heaven when I can rule in hell?" vives from that quote

[@wakkaseta8351]

Considering how big of a control freak he was, he would've probably tried to sanitize culture and society into the faux saccharine "utopia" he kept trying to create had he become president.

[@chucky187]

The "Real Magic" of Disney is how the park employees manage to survive on such poor wages.

[@KingKiller2ooo]

“It’s like corporate fascism” umm no that’s a textbook definition of corporate fascism

[@Chris-pt6hh]

KZbin comments are so eager to argue, they'll even argue while agreeing.

[@doctormo]

Ooooh, do Wisecrack on Violent Agreement!

[@cellblocknine5385]

@@Chris-pt6hh Lmao I know right?

[@trashpanda6885]

It's almost like fascism is an inherent part of the capitalist toolset and that it will always favor fascism as a buffer against the left, resulting in a state of perpetually incubating fascist tendencies as a mechanism for preserving itself.

[@majdjinn5042]

Sounds more like communism, structured like communism and helmed by a son of a communist and a communist

[@chapsonacouch245]

Shouldn’t have mentioned the “Tesla city with Elon Musk as dictator” at the end the Musk fans would unironically sign up for that

[@anonb4632]

Plot twist. It's on Mars.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Elon’s currently the world’s richest person now.

[@anonb4632]

@@SlapstickGenius23 And a lot of it from public money.

[@guga_pires]

Damn right I would😎

[@keenukhang8201]

@@anonb4632 with dogecoin as currency 😆

[@lindashrugemoji9351]

im pretty sure i read somewhere that the main reason epcot didn’t become the utopia that walt wanted was because he died and then the board was like “okay so we’re NOT gonna do that”

[@BloodyAltima]

Disney's corporate board members actively stalled the project even while he was alive, because as far as they were concerned it was just the stupid expensive vanity project of a dying old man that brought with itself more legal liabilities than have ever existed on this green world.

[@Armendicus]

@@BloodyAltima They may have been right... Bioshock comes to mind.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

@@Armendicus Of course they were right.

[@professordogwood8985]

0:28 in Canada a "hidden mickey" is a small bottle of liquor that you stash someplace.

[@adithyavijayakumar1162]

Hey bartender give me a good micky

[@SSJDuBois]

I was a cast member for a couple years, it’s wild to see how accurate this is

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Hahahaha. Freaking true.

[@robertdullnig3625]

Would you work at any other theme park though?

[@frankwolftown]

Who did you play?

[@Skitdora2010]

Were you one of the poor guys in goofy or mickey costumes walking around in 105 degree humid weather?

[@AQUAMARiNEraito]

which disney character were you 'friend' with? (the industry's lingo lol)

[@hernans901]

"This is The Bad Place" -Eleanor Shellstrop

[@peter4210]

Capitalist: Communism makes life dull and stripped of individualism Also Capitalism: builds a dystopia with no individualism. It's like the lack of individualism is more linked to the level of authoritarianism and not of the economic freedom.

[@arx3516]

Every major societal change, like revolutions, require authoritarianism, the only alternative is slow changes over long periods of time.

[@AbrahamMeat]

@@arx3516 if that helps you sleep at night...

[@AbrahamMeat]

And not only to authoritarianism. The fact that the strive for acquiring capital supersedes every other human pursuit in a capitalist society, is a threat to individuality. One’s life cannot be devoted to the fulfillment of our own individual needs. Instead, everything boils down to acquiring capital. We see this with artists. For example, all music tends to be similar, as music companies favor artists that follow a comercial formula, instead of favoring creativity.

[@arx3516]

@Luís Andrade that's right, any drastic change is bound to bring problems. The solution is gradual reforms through democratic process. As i said, the real oroblem is the revolution, violence brings only problems.

[@peter4210]

@Luís Andrade Not at all, that is total generic filthy rich propaganda. You are most likely not rich enough or powerful enough to have actual economic freedom yourself in what ever capitalist system you are. "Democracy trough Consumption" or any other similar saying is corporate nonsense. As a Average or slightly higher income citizen like 50-100 k USD you have as much freedom economically as a pure Russian ethnic communist citizen of Moscow. Except its hidden trough layers of illusion and bureaucracy. Effectively speaking, we are still in a feudal system, some countries are just less violent in enforcing it then medieval lords. The true economically free in the average capitalist systems can bribe their way out of jail time for tax evasion, can afford to pay any fee and can bribe "democratic representatives" into changing any law. Only they are truly free and in effect are our lords and we the average income are their serfs. Force to buy the limited badly made products or limited free time making them ourself. Want an example, Making your own glasses for vision would take a couple of hours of studying and even more hours trying. The companies that make them have it automated, and cost between 0.01 to 10 us dollar to make(prescription lens included). You go into a glasses store and it will cost you 100-500 USD. The frame choice is limited to what "designers" deem in fashion for the year. The frames are poorly made out of plastic and can barely be adjusted so sometimes your force to wear one you don't like because it fits best and these days they break or scratch at nothing because they use cheap plastic for the lenses. You don't have a choice, you have an illusion of a choice made by people higher up and they make enough profit to pay there way into keeping the system like that. There are more then enough information out there about how you have no freedom except to walk down the street with a torch demanding change and even then, they will try to give you just enough for it to look like they did. There is a reason why in 50 years we may go extinct, either it's us for believing their nonsense and buying it, or them for selling to us the bullshit. Good luck reforming the system in time to stop a large amounts of death related to climate change. It's not the fucking tankies who will save us for sure with their genocidal maniac worshiping.

[@gwyneth2869]

All I could about the whole time was when Bart wears a bra on his head and in best mickey impression says "I'm the mascot of an evil corporation"

[@lovetoclearclouds7017]

The writers of the Simpson’s have ties to the [fake] throne in England. Now...being who they are, why would they write that in?

[@_Rick___Grimes_]

Loveto ClearClouds what the actual fuck are talking about

[@tylersmith5124]

Disney world to this day actually has legal authority to make their own Nuclear power plant if they wanted. I love the idea of a plant with a giant Mickey head shaped power plant

[@vladavram9209]

The ultimate mikytool

[@nlpnt]

Never happen. They'll go with a Simpsons theme.

[@TheMysteryDriver]

@@vladavram9209 mousketool

[@vetren23]

@@nlpnt You win

[@pirateraider1708]

More likely they'd make it look like a castle. Maybe with a giant styrofoam dragon attacking to help explain the smoke.

[@mxmagix9894]

"Michael vs. Universal Studios: What Went Wrong?" definitely want to know what happened...

[@darrellchaseleggett8117]

When you relaize Walt Disney was just an Andrew Ryan that decided to build his empire on land. Disney World is literally Rapture without the superpowers

[@ahlishaholloway233]

Disney's original designs for EPCOT always reminded me of Rapture. Although arguably Walt is worse than Ryan. Ryan was a rapacious capitalist, but he didn't have any racial paranoia or distorted views of American exceptionalism, unlike Disney

[@DracoMagnius]

Andrew Ryan always reminded me of Walt Disney, their personality and way of dressing. Also Rapture is designed similarly to Disney World. A bunch of different locations connected by the same mode of transportation, each area of Rapture adheres to a theme and its all centered around an ideology of removing the problematic parts of society.

[@darrellchaseleggett8117]

@@ahlishaholloway233 I guess it made it better that Andrew was Russian lol

[@darrellchaseleggett8117]

@@DracoMagnius I never realized that. Columbia is even more like Disney as well. Columbia is literally just a racist theme park

[@borjaslamic]

@@darrellchaseleggett8117 And fictional

[@tyroneslothdrop9155]

No drunk teenagers was one of its strongest selling points, honestly.

[@EinsamPibroch278]

Company Town, another way to say, Wage-Slave Plantation.

[@raaaaaaaaaam496]

Ironic that the idea came from Bolsheviks

[@bioticjedi3864]

Or feudal city-state/principality

[@lucyandecember2843]

made me think of ANCH when he started talking about them lol

[@jaxonarnold8039]

@@raaaaaaaaaam496 Not really, the Bolsheviks were totalitarian themselves. Also company towns existed before the Bolsheviks ever took power.

[@Turin-Fett]

It really isn't any different than whatever other country you live in. Tax slave.

[@ushouldbejealous]

I'm surprised you didn't mention more about the underground tunnels, strict adherence to character, and other unfaorsble conditions the employees deal with

[@KatherinaBathory]

Is it weird that this video both reinforces the fact that I have never wanted to go to Disney World and gives me, at the same time, enough curiosity to go and visit the place?

[@1mag1nat1vename]

I actually have stayed at Disney World, and seeing this has tempted me to go back, just to look on it with adult eyes (...not effectively, though. Disney World is just too expensive and creepy)

[@SanfordBlack]

yeah, i feel that. my sister brings up going as a family fairly often, but in my cynicism and cool-guyness i think "fuck that corporate hell-hole" and then in my childish wonder and fun-fun times, i think "wheeeee!" but i'm more the former than the latter, don't really like "fun" anyway, and if the pretzels are $7, everything else is gonna be exorbitant and they don't need my money, damnit.

[@kimifw58]

You should go there at least once in your life. See for yourself how artificial it is.

[@davidreeding9176]

I mean, I know I'll never want to go there, because I am baised against everything disney

[@nuthead8888]

Hey it’s a fun place. I had fun. But like Vegas, not somewhere to live. Go for a week at max. Make the most of it. Then go the fuck home.

[@brandonmorel2658]

Its so weird, its like Disney wanted this "self sustaining diorama" with people.

[@tecpaocelotl]

Those company towns sound like haciendas before the mexican revolution. It's why the mexican revolution happened. I want to hear the ban of universal properties story.

[@gonzolonzo1383]

"It's the American equivalent to the Vatican" I have never heard truer words in my life

[@iwantsomecookies08]

Just waiting for Bezos to announce "Prime City"

[@darvell.]

didn't they try to do that in Toronto? or was that google...

[@haveagreatday9865]

Amazonian prime

[@anonb4632]

@@haveagreatday9865 Ford already tried an Amazon Prime community. Bang in the middle of the jungle.

[@RosesAndIvy]

@@darvell. Yeah that was google

[@andrewduong2740]

@@darvell. You're talking about Quayside, the Sidewalk Labs project to turn a whole stretch of Port Lands along Commissioner's street into a "smart city". This is Google we're talking about, so there were some obvious concerns from the start.

[@LucasNapolitano]

This would be an awesome movie idea: The story of someone who has lived its whole life exclusively inside Disney World Grounds, having to get out to the real world for the 1st time. It would be the most realistic approach to the "Truman Show", "Last Emperor" or "Blast From The Pat" trope ever.

[@marceledel8619]

Random sign in a Disney-owned town: "Mickey is watching you."

[@Shrooblord]

Love Mickey. Mickey loves you.

[@dontbotherreading]

We are Mickey, Mickey is us, Mickey is me.

[@akumaking1]

Mickey Skaven is the biggest threat to the world right now

[@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082]

New attraction from Disney World, Uighur concentration camp.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

@@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082 that’s sickening.

[@am.perronace]

What I personally see, being an ecologist, is how huge that property is and the fact that it was originally all a wild space....what a waste, that could have been so much protected land...

[@JoseMartinez-pn9dy]

"I owe my soul... to the company store..."

[@XmarkedSpot]

16t

[@CowboySanta]

My thought exactly! 💯

[@weredoughz]

number 9 cold

[@gaywizard2000]

A Lil Tennessee Ernie Ford!?!?

[@talideon]

"Wow, that was fantastic! It was so nice and so clean! I've love to live there!"... says somebody coming back from Singapore after a week.

[@tannerparks6030]

"Real life, real mortgages, real jobs..." "There was a brutal murder and a suicide"

[@DoctorHouse999]

Imagine a Disney themed horror game based on Disney world.

[@richardarriaga6271]

Place has Nuka-World vibes. Just needs more radiation.

[@martharunstheworld]

I'd like to see a horror movie based on it.

[@shlagevuk]

Corporate fascism seems to be a good definition of Disney world.

[@akumaking1]

Mickey Skaven needs a purging

[@Trussme96]

Well its pretty fitting considering how Disney and Hitler were practically in love with each other.

[@1234kalmar]

Kind of redundant tho, Corporate Fascism

[@atropa6053]

Never been there but it seemed super dark from the beginning to me, now i can put my finger on why. Going there on acid would be hell by the way.

[@moustachio05]

@@1234kalmar how is it redundant?

[@jamesveronese6519]

I got a Disney+ ad after this. Just kinda hammers home how terrifying they are

[@desuordie4856]

That's just google seeing that you watched a Disney video

[@Lowlight91]

“Hidden Mickeys” is a very creepy phrase. For multiple reasons.

[@lovetoclearclouds7017]

Sorry, but I don’t agree with this one. It’s a game, find the Mickey head shapes scattered around the park. How is that any diff than Where’s Waldo? Or hunting Easter/Ishtar eggs? Or playing hide ‘n seek? Or searching for hidden knowledge? Sometimes, people just take things too far...extremists, if you will.🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Mike14264]

@@lovetoclearclouds7017 yeah, a Hidden Mickey is just that, a hidden mascot symbol, you look at it, and you're like "heh, nice, I found one."

[@rarazalproductions519]

Getting HUGE Rapture vibes from Disney's original idea. "No god's or kings, only The Mouse."

[@ZOB4]

That comparison shot of The Vatican and the Disneyland plaza - that was some genius work right there

[@nnnn65490]

Huh, I always thought heterotopia was what Mike Pence calls his safe place

[@serenaewinger8947]

HAHAHA

[@ericyoumans2670]

Ba dumbum

[@PaintSplashProductions]

“Where princesses are real” The British royal family: Excuse me? (Edit: thanks for bringing up that its the British Royal family, I'm English so its even worse I had to be told this 😅)

[@anonb4632]

Half the countries in western Europe. Even the likes of Liechtenstein and Monaco.

[@vetren23]

@@anonb4632 You're right but also who is THE Queen?

[@anonb4632]

@@andrewleo1521 The US does have a kind of monarchy it's called the presidency. You may laugh but the POTUS role has taken on some of the ceremonial aspects that a monarch would be involved in elsewhere. Another aspect is how his wife and family are viewed.

[@sircoloniser5454]

It’s the British royal family, there has been no English royal family since 1707

[@anonb4632]

@@sircoloniser5454 It's the English royal family. The Scottish royal family was removed from the throne twice by the English, firstly by executing Charles I (the last actual Scottish king) and then a few years after the Stuarts were restored, the line was usurped completely. (Hence the Jacobite movement.) If you want to argue it the other way there hasn't been an English royal house for over a thousand years, when the Danes took over and were superseded by the Normans, and then houses of Dutch, French, German, Scottish and Welsh origin.

[@spinningninja2]

I grew up in Celebration! Was a nice town to be a kid in. Lots of parks and walking paths (and when you were a Florida kid who didn't know what snow was like, the soap fountains were a blast, lol). I even went to that school they showed! Here's some random details that weren't mentioned: -Like 90% of the houses are like a foot apart from each other. You can barely squeeze a person between some of them -Most "yards" are like 15 square feet of grass crammed between the garage and the neighbors garage -Houses that weren't like those were ludicrously fancy mansions. One in particular that stuck out to me is literally like an entire block in length. Like 8 houses could have fit on its plot -Because this is all still in freaking Florida, animals were everywhere. Turkeys wandered the streets, pigs ate up yards and alligators were in every body of water Was definitely a bit of a weird place, but I remember it fondly.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

Pigs?

[@lilac.mascara]

@@rosesweetcharlotte it was peppa

[@sorinvonbelmont6726]

I always sensed a correlation between Walt Disney and Andrew Ryans caracterization in bioschock but I could not quite articulate it now I see the paralels a little better than before. Thanks wisecrack crew.

[@benabramowitz18]

Didn’t Defunctland make a video about this months ago?

[@TheEliera]

Yes and it is awesome

[@am.perronace]

I never knew what disney world was so huge and complex....I always thought it was just another amusement park. This is really concerning though, I totally agree with you

[@duegia44]

"I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... Disney world" - Andrew Disney

[@_Rick___Grimes_]

i never thought about this parallel until now hahahha bioshock always remains relevant

[@surturiel]

ON Epcot: There are some planned cities with the same ethos as that in Brazil: They're called Alphavilles. It's basically a gated CITY.

[@anonb4632]

Named after a French film. I have it on video (VHS) somewhere. There is a place in India run like this.

[@surturiel]

@Maria Alice Corrêa de Souza outskirts of São Paulo. Situated partially in Barueri, partially in Santana do Parnaíba is the most famous one. No one that works there lives there.

[@ocek2744]

This is Bioshock. Now I'm thinking that Andrew Ryan is 100% based on Walt Disney and Disneyland.

[@cartersparks7580]

While Andrew Ryan was based on Ayn Rand, her ideas were extremely prevalent in Walt Disney’s time

[@Mirai_the_weeb]

Literally that payment situation reminds me of bioshock infinite. Finkton MFG. Had a town he owned and operated under the factories and everyone was paid in money they could only use for Finkton owned things only. If you know how that turned out, you know

[@ahlishaholloway233]

Funnily enough, Main Street USA always reminded me of Columbia from Bioshock Infinite. Ironically, both were built to exhibit the same kind of American ideals.

[@Madsovic999]

Good to see that i'm not the only one who thinks Bioshock may have had some inspiration from Disney. I didn't know how big disney world is and how creepily they manage it

[@diestormlie]

Yup. That sure is a Company town!

[@taralinn863]

Walt was a Fink man!

[@trashpanda6885]

That's because both are modeled after the coal towns of the early 20th century in the US.

[@DarknetDude]

It's unnerving because, at the back of our minds, we know it's not real. It's literally too good to be true. And it's like uncanny valley in the sense that is creepy.

[@yesmansam6686]

I'm fine with this as long as it stays in Disney land.

[@Dude_Abides]

Now i wanna hear the story of Michael's banning from Universal Studios

[@lunacouer]

So basically, Celebration, FL is the worst HOA ever formed...

[@Yankee_Doodle_Dandy]

Yeah

[@TAP7a]

Absolutely insane, cannot believe the extent of the ambition, and even the reality is well on the way to be a bit sickening

[@p1nkfreud]

8:00 Can we just stop and appreciate that a real person had this name at one point...

[@gaywizard2000]

Dick Pope! Lol

[@lbradshaw316]

As a life long orlando resident, the magic died for me at a very long time ago. When all of your family and friends work their and tell you about their low wages, heavy restrictions and ridiculous commute, its hard to find the place worth the $200 ticket price.

[@AdalizMColon]

Loved the video. As a former cast member, is insane how much I found myself accenting nodding yes and kinda realizing we were told about much of this story in our training (though of course with the introspection, analysis and all framed as a nice thing).

[@ihab2002ahmad]

Could you PLEASE make a video discussing the philosophy in the latest seasons of Attack on Titan. Please make one on part 2 of season 3 before season 4 ends and then a new video just about season 4.

[@sarahbeebe]

Oh Disney. This brought back so many memories, stuff I swore I must have forgotten. My family went to Disney in Feb 1995, and we actually designated a day where our goal was to visit Celebration and see the wonders. Terrifying to children, and my parents never spoke of it again. Luckily my great-grandparents didn't live far away, so when we ditched early we visited them a second time.

[@ArmageddonAngel]

I can sneak you into Universal, Michael.

[@Shrooblord]

From a user name 'ArmageddonAngel'... strangely chilling

[@brandon91191]

I kind of wonder what led to such a ban, but do we REALLY want to know? Lol.

[@AnyBodyWannaPeanut]

Thank you for perfectly describing and putting into words what I've always felt about Disney and that place. I couldn't really describe it myself other than it made me feel uneasy and that it didn't feel right. You nailed it!

[@wiskeslagroom2472]

You cant just tell us you’re banned for life from Universal Studios and then not tell us the story. 🍵

[@sorenkazaren4659]

The scary part is that we all seem to enjoy it. Hell even that mention of the evacuation is something that is wild. Can you imagine the preparation and organization involved in that? Makes you think we’d be better off with Disney in charge of the government. AND THEN you realize how crazy and terrible that would be.

[@marcovargas3372]

This feels like the trilogy of Bioshock just copy pasted Walt Disney's bio.

[@quintenwhyte6660]

Dr. Allen Grant: "We're out of a job." Dr. Ian Malcolm: "Don't you mean extinct?"

[@Pandaemoni]

Teslaville is a much scarier concept. First of all, it will probably be on Mars...

[@bartz0rt928]

Don't need fences to keep the riffraff out when you have a hundred million miles of cold, uncaring void!

[@leannezezeski-sass2773]

So if you end up not liking it, you can never escape

[@alexandrebeaudry8377]

It now make sense that Disney most iconic idea: "The princess" is value. Selling a princess for wealth to a King is just normal for a creepy corporation. It's basically telling the world of a goldigger is magical.

[@LucioXIVGilmez]

This was an amazing video! There’s a manga called Billy Bat and it’s an interesting read. It has conspiracy’s and it all is tied to a comic book character that is the Micky Mouse of the story’s world.

[@scarscanbebeautiful]

Loved this video!! Would you consider adding a Works Cited or recommended further reading list to your description? Great analysis but could be helpful for people who want to learn more and are looking for more ebooks since, you know, lockdown.

[@JemLeavitt]

There's some pretty important and currently relevant potential lessons that could be learned within this...

[@pacalolo1862]

Now I know why I always felt such anxiety inside that park, and why even as a child I always felt there was something off with disney in general.

[@Yankee_Doodle_Dandy]

Was it the overpriced pretzels? Or do you not like fun.

[@kswone1]

I can't even imagine a world where princesses are real. Durrrppppp.

[@alexandrebeaudry8377]

The funny thing about Princess is that it's an horrible life and symbol. It's being sold to a men of power by your father.

[@wargriffin5]

Disney: "NO GAMBLING!" Also Disney: @16:54

[@cameronbfox7393]

This kind of reminds me of the Astor colony in 1812 where Jon Jacob Astor tried to make the whole Pacific Northwest into his own private corporate nation.

[@kingcobra2858]

Even seemingly randomized animals like birds are disneyfied. Birds act like how they act in disney cartoons. Its amazing tbh.

[@brickingle3984]

I've stayed in a mansion in golden oaks and that shit is wild

[@11FBA11]

What was wild about it? How do the people act? Just rich people shut off from reality?

[@brickingle3984]

@@11FBA11 rich people shut off from reality. How much of a different park experience rich people get, and just what it means to be a rich person and how life is different for them. Nothing radicalized me more than that week with a billionaire lol

[@ohwell7680]

I feel like nobody will ever really try to look deep into Disney because most of videos of anyone that does seems like they have a light-hearted ness to what it is

[@marcoandrade4872]

defunctland has a good deep dive on disney and the legacy he wanted to establish

[@Enderikari2]

"Disney will do anything to make money, but before I tell you what I mean, first a word from our sponsors..."

[@Yankee_Doodle_Dandy]

Nailed it. The facts in this video are more or less correct but... This channel’s interpretation of what Disney wanted out of EPCOT are just dumb. Why would Disney World show the darker side of the US, it’s a park for children. There’s no dark hidden secrets, just a park to make money. This video is just dumb.

[@erimgard3128]

....I don't think you grasped the point of the video at all lol It's not saying that there's an evil plot going on at Disney World today.

[@richardarriaga6271]

@@erimgard3128 It's behavior during COVID proves it's still pretty evil.

[@aedanokelly5794]

I was scared by “Mickey can’t hurt you”

[@juliamcclaysy829]

I enjoy how more and more critical themed videos are popping up everywhere on yt. granted for those who knew there is not much to learn but im thrilled that its spreading into the mainstream

[@Freezezonian]

Man this video is making me both want to play outer worlds again, and also want to write some alternate history where Disney does build the Epcot city and corporations with corporate towns start getting to the point where they can compete with governments or at least grow into city states.

[@manwhoismissingtwotoenails4777]

Company towns sounds like a dystopian society where you have to work too long to ever realize how bad your situation is.

[@toniharrison1215]

I got a Disney plus ad before this video, lol.

[@brandonmahoney1489]

Same

[@roscojenkins7451]

Same here

[@gars129]

wandavision ad to boot, which satirizes american domesticity

[@kingmydus7386]

Disney is always watching

[@x2y3a1j5]

I once lived for a while in a Disney Town in Europe. It is called Serris, and it's a few kilometers off Eurodisney/Disneyland Paris. I called it "Mousechwitz", because it had a subtle eerie feeling of being a concentration camp for employees. There were other 4 Mousechwitzes as well, all conveniently isolated from one another. Older employees and even older managers were telling us, new employees, how even a couple of years before we came in, at the picnic tables outside our dorms, designated managers would sit down with us every single time to control our conversations: immediate censorship of the slightest criticism towards Disney and, much worse, the only conversations allowed not only at those picnic tables but indeed in every single public space HAD TO BE about how great Disney was and what a great opportunity we employees had at being allowed the once-in-a-lifetime luckly opprtunity of toiling away for our slave masters. Our private clothing was also strictly regulated: wearing a clothes item with a rival brand cartoon character would immediately bring you threats of immediate termination of your work contract. There were barely any shops in or around Mousechwitz (a very expensive bakery, a very expensive soulless bar, and a very expensive minimarket, all three of them would close at 5 pm). And there was no other transportation except the buses that took you to Eurodisney; so 95% of the time 95% of the employees would go to the Disney Village to socialize and spend our little money at Disney bars and Disney eateries & restaurants (even with our 1O% discount it was still very expensive). For the rebels from us who wanted to do our weekly shopping at a normal store, we had to literally take a train to another city, Torcy, where all the Disney employees were prayed upon by the local thug bands, right at the train station and all the way to the shopping mall where the supermarket was, so we had to organize to go in groups of 6 but despite that still got tauntedd, threatened and occassionally robbed and beaten by those thug bands. At the park itself as well as at the hotels or the Disney village, employees could be fined if not smiling enough 100% of our time. I remember a day, as I was waiting a row of tables at one of the restaurants of the Sequoia Lodge Hotel, where my manager gave me a Pluto certificate for outstanding work the previous month at the beginning of my shift (this came with voucher of about USD100 that could only be spend at... you guessed it, Disney stores), and at the end of my shift he deducted USD150 from my pay b/c while I was clearing away a table and thus having to go the dishwashing area (off limits to guests, as it should be) a guy who was sitting alone at one of the tables I waited at took the opportunity to sneak away without paying his bill - we had controls at the exit to make sure this didn't happen but the guy went away unnoticed. How the hell was I supposed to watch somebody trying to sneak away while I am in another area of the restaurant??

[@LukasLuke2]

I literally just got an ad for Disney Plus.

[@tonuahmed4227]

Mickey is watching you

[@0ned]

6:25 "scratch on virgin" -Walt Disney Why am I not surprised⸮

[@gabvillagepanda]

14:57 i hope the story behind this isn’t a patreon exclusive

[@Regic]

Oh have I bad news for you...

[@samevans6063]

This really cleared up why I've found Disney so creepy, thanks for the awesome video!

[@gedrictudio]

Well, we did get to experience that Disney bubble last year.

[@Alex13501]

So Walt Disney wanted to build something akin to the Rupture, but on land. Seems fitting.

[@feedme3373]

So this is what Ancaps dream about. Yikes

[@aarishowton8037]

Ispira Nothing involving unregulated capitalism is truly ‘voluntary’. What happens to the people who already live there when this ancap place springs up? What happens when people inevitably want to leave because they can’t afford to survive? They’d either have to stay there slowly being exploited to death or else leave unable to support themselves and risk starving to death that way instead. Capitalism thrives by the upper crust exploiting the working class. Those who are most heartless thrive and those who cannot thrive starve. The good of the workers is never even taken into consideration when corporations are free to ignore it. There is no method of insulated unregulated capitalism that doesn’t result in hundreds to thousands to millions of people dying from poverty, depending on the size of the society.

[@grantonator3884]

Seeing the dirty tunnel under the beautiful surface of Disney World reminds me of Sacred Marijoa from One Piece

[@carloshenrique-xb5bz]

Welp, a video explaining that Disney is evil. I could have never known that.

[@arthur-b1b6e]

Who could ever think about that?

[@carloshenrique-xb5bz]

@@arthur-b1b6e True, this is news no one could have known before

[@kimifw58]

"why" and "how" is the point.

[@anonb4632]

Yet people in my area indoctrinate their children with Disney content and wonder why they end up f-d up.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

To be fair, this video is also about how Disney created something slightly less weird than what was intended.

[@d.t.garcia8705]

This was an excellent video. Your closing insights were very interesting.

[@oldgus01]

"Keep you hands, arms, and legs inside the vehicle" But I'm in a bed.... *Remembers this is Disney* Oh god.... *Looks down* OH GOD!!!

[@rakshithanand8262]

You really hit the nail on the head about why Disneyworld's saccharine, picture-perfect manicure can in fact be deeply concerning, but I think that you didn't properly answer *why* then so many are happy to attend- indeed, even happy to not even question like they would were this a true governmental style. In my opinion, that answer is actually very simple: you can leave. Actually, I feel like that heterotopic 'uncanny valley' effect helps this; it is carefully calibrated to ensure that you do not take it all that seriously. You can laugh at the attractions, feel patriotic about the 'history', and enjoy the food because you know that it only exists inside this bubble, and that whilst you generally surrender agency within it, your entrance and exit is entirely up to you. As you pointed out, most of Disney's other such ventures failed because they were all-encompassing and long term, where people felt that they were stuck in a waking dream of a life. Willingly surrendering one's agency to a corporation is usually a nightmare, but when you know that the duration is up to you - and more importantly, that *none* of that orwellian control will follow you out of disneyland - it becomes infinitely more palatable to just 'go with the flow' and avoid looking to closely at those candy-scented chains hanging at the corners of your vision. At the very least, knowing that you need not exert any effort- that in exchange for a lot of money and freedom, the world will instead pander to *you* for a week... well, the novelty of the experience compared to the grind of 'normal' life is itself part of the appeal, perhaps moreso depending on your situation back home. At least, that's what I got out of MY visit to the place! -A tourist from India

[@DaddyOfTheSugarVariety]

I love watching Disney+, but I wouldn't want to live at Disneyland or Disneyworld. Sesame Street on the other hand....I could live there. :p

[@wannabecar8733]

;Cd

[@whiffyclarke]

Wut. Sesame Place of all places? A solid fraction of my high school worked there including my best friend, and it's always been described as a Trailer Park Trash version of Disney World...

[@ktculbreth9961]

15:32 "Mickey can't hurt you ;)" Is the most terrifying thing I've ever heard