That Time One Guy Almost Ruined Chinese Food For Everyone (Legendary Sheffield Takeaways)

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[@veganmonter]

MSG is a great example where something that is harmless is assumed to be harmful because restaurants felt compelled to say they don't have it. Clearly if they say they don't have it then it must be bad! Even if you don't know why it is supposed to be bad.

[@OMGg4m3r]

Good ol' asbestos free cereal...

[@Jon-id7ki]

Yet the same people will eat doritos like they're going out of style without realizing there's msg there too

[@Armorlord04]

As someone that got wrecked by it for years without knowing why, there are people that MSG is harmful to. That said, unless you have an actual sensitivity, there's no harm in it, and most people avoiding it are idiots. Like people that avoid gluten that don't have an actual issue with it.

[@tedgovostis7351]

@@Jon-id7ki My mother claims to be "sensitive" to MSG but love cheetos.

[@ithinkitsaurus]

If a restaurant didn't use MSG i don't eat there

[@mogwix]

There's a place in my hometown called Admiral's and they have the greasiest, shittiest food possible, but you can get something called the "junkpile" which is just a giant plate of food. Also they're open at 3am and the food is cheap. Naturally, that's where everyone ends up at the tail end of a bender.

[@mistertestsubject]

those kinds of places are an institution of the community and should be respected as such

[@cabe_bedlam]

Heroic!

[@transcendtient]

There's a place called Jimmy's Egg that has something called the "garbage plate". It's minced sausage, peppers, and onions on top of eggs and hashbrowns. They close midday sadly.

[@gavyncarter9461]

@@transcendtient ngl… that don’t sound horrible

[@theHalken]

@@transcendtient sounds more like a hangover place than drunk food then ;)

[@benwagner5089]

So doctors start making joke articles in an official journal, but don't tell the rest of the world that the journal is the medical equivalent of The Onion. That's why you don't mix fiction and non-fiction, you get stupid people who don't know better believing the tripe you're selling.

[@ThumpertTheFascistCottontail]

you're talking about fox news, aren't you.

[@benwagner5089]

@@ThumpertTheFascistCottontail No, I'm talking about The Onion, a satirical newspaper that "reports" on weird nonsensical stories. Like people who consume dihydrogen monoxide will die, aka people who drink water.

[@griffinmckenzie7203]

"You get stupid people who don't know any better..." I can see how he thought this particular sentence could be talking about FOX news. That's pretty much 90% of their audience. Lol

[@femthingevelyn]

@@benwagner5089 I don't think I've ever run into anyone who genuinely believes anything written by the onion, it's pretty well known as a comedy thing, I feel like that's a little like saying Disney channel is misinformation because it's on TV just like news channels are

[@thepinkestpigglet7529]

@@femthingevelyn I know a lot of people who don't know what the onion is. They're usually particularly folks or particularly younger folks.

[@Lyander25]

As an Asian guy nearing his thirties I can say with full conviction that the ramifications of this silliness indeed persist to this day with how it impacted my early education and how my parents STILL think MSG is evil.

[@THEIrishOReilly]

I used to have a Chinese friend back in the early 90s. I’d eat at his house once a week. Food was delicious, but I’d have these horrible headaches. The msg hysteria was strong in Australia back then. Tv campaigns for frozen dim sims “NO MSG” etc. my mum never bought into it. Everyone kept saying it’s the msg. Anyway, they ran out of incense and bought a different one. No more headaches.

[@RNS_Aurelius]

The fact criticism of MSG only targets Asian use of it and not other uses like many fast food outlets and savory snacks like Doritos just goes to show it's rooted in prejudice. Also the phenomenon of being told something is bad then having a bad reaction to it is called the nocebo effect.

[@7ninjasstudios808]

Gluten also. Food is advertised as Gluten Free to help people with Gluten sensitivity or allergies, but people without a medical reason to eat GF see Gluten Free on the label and assume that means that gluten should be avoided

[@donutchan8114]

Due to this I tease my mom whenever we eat anything that contains msg (in case you don't know, yeasts and certain fruits and vegetables like tomato naturally contain msg. I can only remember tomato at the moment.)

[@TheTrainStationOG]

Is it a placebo when the “effect” is positive, and a nocebo when it’s negative?

[@RNS_Aurelius]

​@@TheTrainStationOG Yes. Placebo comes from Latin and means I placate/please/soothe. Nocebo means I harm.

[@ineedapharmists]

Source: my feelings

[@Cuiasodo]

People in the US are STILL really jumpy about MSG. If you want to get it in an American supermarket, you have to look for something called Accent, which is only labeled MSG on the ingredients information.

[@Exarian]

not only that but Accent costs like 5 bucks for a small shaker full of it, but if you go to any asian supermarket you can find like a 1 Lb bag of the stuff for like 3 dollars.

[@thedoomslayer2468]

Yt people in the U.S* Let’s be honest here.

[@Cuiasodo]

@@thedoomslayer2468 Not wrong!

[@apollolux]

Accent is definitely the most common brand here, but if your supermarket sells Spanish food (very common in NYC, California, Texas, Florida, etc) you can also find Goya or Badia or other lesser known Spanish brands "sazón" (seasoning) which have MSG in it and also have larger sizes.

[@casteanpreswyn7528]

I live in Washington state, and a lot of our supermarkets have 1 to 5 pound bags of it, starting at like $3, and it isn't called Accent.

[@Guido-si5yl]

Every time somebody tells me those cliche racist things about Chinese food, I double down and tell them I’ve ate squirrel and ass.

[@TheDarkBuddha42]

As a South African, I can shock people with the things I’ve actually eaten in Africa

[@Guido-si5yl]

@@TheDarkBuddha42 ever had possum

[@omari6108]

I mean, unless you’re vegan you’re literally eating: intestines, hearts, livers, flesh, testicles, tongue, and pretty much any and every square inch of a gleefully killed innocent life. So squirrel and ass should be the least of your worries for what you decide to consume. You could just...and hear me out on this....not consume animals at all 🤷🏾‍♂️ That’s an idea.

[@teanobeano6838]

"Dog meat? Yeah, it's a bit gamey. Better than human meat atleast."

[@salerio61]

What's wrong with eating ass?

[@apollolux]

As soon as I saw the title, I figured this was gonna be about MSG and that one guy's "paper." MSG got such a bad rap here in the States because of that guy and his presumed authority, but it's actually super tasty when used properly and most of the time better than table salt.

[@aaronmontgomery2055]

Health wise it's better than salt

[@VelaiciaCreator]

@@aaronmontgomery2055 Salt's not bad for your health either, and generally when you get to the levels where it would cause any issues, you're not gonna want to eat any more salty stuff anyways.

[@tonydai782]

MSG is mainly for umami, so it'd be used in conjunction with salt not as a replacement for it.

[@apollolux]

@@tonydai782 Me personally I prefer the umami savory flavors over salty flavors most of the time, but will use sea salt or kosher salt instead of table salt when I need that.

[@mistertestsubject]

we've got a burger joint called Phat Burgers where I live that offers the right kind of Big Burger™. Which is not taller, simply wider. They also happen to be very tasty burgers. I don't go there often, but when I do it's a real treat. One of the most notable times I went was after having to have my left hand immobilized due to an accident and getting approval from the doctor to take the splint off for short periods. You better believe the first thing I did was get a big stupid burger just so I could hold it with both hands. Best burger I ever ate.

[@judahmoar2533]

About a month ago I found out about this and went down a rabbit whole of reading research papers on the topic. The original paper that said MSG is bad had awful methodology and couldn’t be replicated

[@Omashu2425]

*hole

[@aaronmontgomery2055]

I mean all the doctors who peered reviewed it were being ironic and basically meme ING the paper. What you gonna do though, americans.

[@legionma1956]

@@Omashu2425 nah, he went entirely inside a rabbit and that rabbit remained in one piece, with his entire being inside it, controlling it like a tiny meat mech

[@humanicd]

It was a LETTER, not a paper. No methodology, other than using a typewriter.

[@humanicd]

@@aaronmontgomery2055 Letters to the editor are generally not peer reviewed.

[@carlosvejar3938]

There is more MSG in a bag of Doritos than most meals in any restaurant

[@ryansizemore5064]

Doritos are worth it.

[@carlosvejar3938]

@@ryansizemore5064 can confirm.

[@terrorofdeath3280]

I really want to open a bookstore, with an attached bar (kind of like Starbucks in a Barnes & Noble), and call it "In The Fact Bar Below". The only thing that plays on the old 1990's CRT TVs is a constant loop of every Fact Fiend video. Every customer gets a free shot of a cheap liquor of their choice whenever someone in a Fact Fiend video says the phrase "In the fact bar below."

[@NOKORUS_The_Eldritch_One]

This just strengthens the saying "the masses are deafened by the nieve while they silence the wise"

[@KittyConnie5]

My mother in law told us the other day that she doesn’t eat a lot of Chinese food because MSG gave her headaches. This was huge news to me, who has been cooking her food with msg in it for years with zero reaction!

[@HyperWolf]

I do get sick when I eat Chinese food even in tiny amounts, but I know I’ve got a stomach that reacts negatively to soy sauce, soybean oil, and peanut oil. 😂 I’ll still eat it though and it’s something I get made fun of for because I can eat super spicy food but put a little bit of the wrong kind of grease in my stomach and I’m dying. I did get food poisoning at one Chinese restaurant but, again, that’s one singular Chinese restaurant that I never went back to. There’s also this restaurant that literally offered to cook me separate chow mein and egg rolls in olive oil or regular vegetable oil and that’s the nicest thing ever. I said no but the fact they offered made my day. I like to go there because they’re super nice. I think they might have closed due to the pandemic which is sad.

[@Stathio]

As a small kid, I used to have Chinese takeaways with my family almost every weekend, and after eating it, I would throw up every single time like clockwork. I still insisted on having it though, as I just loved it that much. Thankfully, I reached a point where I built a 'tolerance' to whatever it was about it that was making me ill and have been completely fine ever since- I'm pretty sure it was just the large amounts of grease/fried stuff, as I did have a bit more of a sensitive stomach to stuff like that as a kid- fish and chips could make me feel a little nauseous too. Still, it was seemingly only Chinese takeaways that fully did it to me, but I doubt it was anything like MSG, and more like not being as used to that style of cooking on a day to day basis and having a sensitive stomach (which I've always had)

[@HyperWolf]

@@Stathio yeah, I was also the same although we probably had Chinese food once every couple of months. Which is probably why I somehow built up a tolerance to grease in burgers and deep fried stuff but not fully to the Chinese food grease. That’s why we’ve assumed it might be the different type of oil they use since a friend once cooked Chinese food for us but used vegetable oil and minimal soy sauce and I was fine. MSG is definitely not the culprit since I’ve had non-Chinese food with MSG added in and nothing has happened. In terms of Chinese restaurants, I did gratefully stop throwing up after eating. Now it’s just intense stomach pain that makes me feel like I’m dying. If I just eat a small amount, tums can stop the worst of it though. Maybe one day I’ll tolerate it fully.

[@ianthompson2802]

I had a burger joint near a friend's house that closed down during the pandemic some of the best juiciest burgers you could get and they were cheap. Like 8 bucks for a pound burger.

[@HyperWolf]

@@ianthompson2802 it’s always so sad when restaurants with good food close down, even more so when the food was affordable. Hopefully the owners can reopen their restaurant some day, even if it’s somewhere else.

[@Chuck-PK]

I remember being in a cooking class in high-school and once we had to make two sets of a dish, one with a "special ingredient" chosen from a list and one without. I had a Chinese friend in that class, his ingredient was MSG and he made some ramen noodles. No-one wanted to try the noodles with MSG but me and they were delicious.

[@benjamindurkin]

When I still drank alcohol I used to rank nights out on the kebab scale: A good night out I bought a kebab. On a really good night, I bought a kebab I didn't remember buying. A fantastic night out was one where I woke up having passed out in the kebab.

[@Wilipeidia]

I remember studying in Hull the most popular Pizza place (on a row of three) was one that routinely got like 1* on the health inspection. Had a wall of photos of students who were their regulars. I went to a different place where the offer was 3 10" pizzas, two bags of chips, and a can of drink for £12. Fed a house of 4 easy. Never been able to justify a dominos since.

[@Dannyheal]

I use MSG in a lot of my cooking, and basically have a cookie jar of it in my home kitchen, and also in my own restaurant. It is a naturally occurring spice, such as in Parmigiano and other cheeses. Not to mention it used in just about all Asian recipes, regardless of countries. If anyone ever ask, I always say, of course. It hasn't stopped one of my customers yet.

[@Hannah_The_Heretic]

You know what some people might find funny, I specifically don't buy anything that states it has "no msg" on the packaging Like they're expecting me to go " oh YEAH! I love shit with less flavour"

[@guillermopena8412]

Here is an easy way to make tomato sauce. Saute tomatoes, onions, bell pepper, and garlic, after they are roasted, deglaze with water and let the stock cook for 10 minutes, then put everything in a blender with enough of the stock to barely cover them (less if you want it thicker), add in salt, pepper, dried oregano, paprika, and MSG. Blend everything, taste for seasoning, and then use the sauce for anything you want. Do the experiment and taste the sauce before and after adding the MSG, you'll taste the difference immediately, that thing will make the tomatoes taste even more like tomatoes.

[@humanicd]

Tomatoes are already loaded with MSG. 😂

[@wingracer1614]

@@humanicd Yep but even more is better.

[@walkingtall85]

As someone born and raised in germany, and back here. Sadly the one thing I really miss is Nandos and a lot of other places on that street...

[@evamadman]

Crispy chilli beef, mushroom noodles and mini vegetable spring rolls is my go to order from the local but you always know you've overdone it when you get the food sweats

[@Jordan5Harrison]

I used to go uni in Sheffield and love yum yum. The best Chinese I've had. By far.

[@tedgovostis7351]

Dominoes and good pizza should almost never occur in the same sentence.

[@skidawg22]

5:32 "MSG, the king of flavor! Fuiyoh!" - Uncle Roger

[@joehertel8846]

As a chef that also blasts metal (avenged sevenfold being one of my most favorite bands ever) I can totally relate to the acquisition of a customer from the same scenario Karl presented in the beginning . On one occasion I was doing the scream vocals for a bunch of post hardcore bands that had gotten me through a particularly rough day at the restaraunt and as I was locking up these two girls had been hanging outside listening to my vocals asked if they could buy me a drink at the local bar ….awesome night

[@zipfed2389]

Yes! Yum Yum was our first takeaway discovery when we moved to Sheffield! Still yet to be beaten!

[@grapetoad6595]

Dixie's chicken is the classic drunk takeaway in Manchester. It's definitely the same as Sheffield as both of them have a Uni, and who needs drunk takeaway shops more that uni students

[@livingreverie5951]

General Tso’s chicken with White Rice, personal peak standard for comfort food

[@josephd5185]

Now having regret for not going to Yum Yum when I lived in Sheffield

[@josephd5185]

Kebabish does slap though

[@HGmolotov]

Should regret, it's pretty good Personal favorite though is mount Lebanon

[@jordyboy62]

That makes two of us but I'd reccommend Imran's on the Wicker over Kebabish tbh. It's opposite the Wicker kebabish I think actually.

[@lonewolf9578]

Egg fried rice, sweet and sour sauce and chips all the way The chips from the Chinese we usually order from are S tier

[@sunshinejameth]

The dominos example at the end always fascinates me as someone who has a friend in Sheffield (totally asking them about the local places) here in Australia dominos is real cheap and you always get deals like you can 3 pizzas and sides for the equivalent of 17 pounds or so. She's always told me how dominos is the kind of fancier takeout option and that's so wild how different it is

[@LapanConnor]

Dominos is the place you go when nowhere else is open and you’re drunk at 1am here in the US

[@raheem8086]

@@LapanConnor it sucks last pizza place I'd choose

[@griffinmckenzie7203]

In the US, it's the shit you get when you have absolutely no taste and a buttload of money to waste.

[@brianargo4595]

@@LapanConnor round here, Domino's isn't really open past 9 and is one of the better national chains. Little Caesars is the crap chain

[@LapanConnor]

@@brianargo4595 we just lack decent chain pizza. or maybe our local places are good enough that it makes the chains bad in comparison?

[@alexanderhenley7307]

Food poisoning is not a stomach ache, it won't kick in till a few hours later, but when it does it hits you HARD. Chills, sweating, nausea, not to mention the fact that you will be "stress testing" the plumbing afterwards.

[@ianthompson2802]

Increase the pressure on the pipes downstairs a bit

[@caitch87]

Just back from Sheffield on Monday... wish I'd seen this earlier! Though as a group of Scottish guys, heartbroken that nowhere sold Munchie Boxes

[@paolopontini79]

It's funny that people complain about and refuse to eat chinese food because it contains MSG, when many snack foods contain substantial amounts of it.

[@DemonRaticate]

It naturally occurs in many fruits, veggies and meats as well… like if people started calling salt Sodium Chloride, we can guarantee a bunch of people will fear it.

[@fohhee]

"I like the chips" As a Chinese, my blood is boiling.

[@JPaterson8942]

I got sick after eating Chinese food once (it was the flu. I felt off all day beforehand) and couldn't even look at a Chinese restaurant for years. Got to go on a trip to China a few years ago and the food was amazing.

[@wingracer1614]

Same thing happened to me. My mom makes amazing chili but she brought me a huge pot of it one day and that night the flu hit me hard. All that chili got thrown up that night. I couldn't stand the look or smell of it for like 2 years after that. Fortunately it finally passed so now I can once again enjoy mom's chili.

[@existentialbread4746]

YumYum used to be the red lion, and it was my favorite chinese back then! Nice to see the legacy lives on. I miss Sheffield so much.

[@elsid8472]

I miss the rat van outside of Old Corp (the one with skateboard mini halfpipes). You had a burger from there, you could taste EVERY burger ever cooked there.

[@SPQRKlio]

Foods high in MSG tend to make me violently ill, but I'm perfectly willing to accept that it's because of other components to that sort of food; like, if I eat a party-size bag of Doritos, I get exactly what I deserve.

[@Epiidevvy]

My mum really believed in the MSG myth but I used it in my own cooking for MONTHS before I told her. And I still use it. She's never faced any ill effects.

[@Epiidevvy]

Since I don't eat meat and I live rurally, Chinese takeaway is a rare delicacy. But I fucking love me some szechaun tofu.

[@DroneBeeStrike]

I love that she refers to Dominos as the good pizza place 🤣

[@justinbellotti7838]

On top of that, to this day, chinese food restaurants have a "does not contain MSG" sign. At least in the tri-state area in America.

[@NordManHot]

man ive been looking for a chinese in sheffield for so long tysm

[@NZLion]

It sounds so messed up to me to hear Domino's described as the step up option. In NZ it's the shitty cheap one where you are simply buying [quantity of food]

[@pennyforyourthots]

It's the best chain pizza in the US, but we're also spoiled for good New York style pizza, so that's not saying much. The garlic butter crust is a step up though

[@NZLion]

@@pennyforyourthots in NZ, even Pizza Hutt is vastly superior to Domino's, for fairly similar prices. But either of these would be choosing quantity over quality.

[@tonyg25]

Dominos if you're feeling cheap, Hells if you're feeling fancy

[@vesperdxn]

This is the first time I've ever seen a Factfiend video with no dislikes and I was thinking about being that first guy but... man.... I just couldn't do it. Fact Fiend's too good, mate.

[@tonydai782]

Mate, sorry to break it to you. KZbin removed the ability for viewers to see the dislike count.

[@vesperdxn]

@@tonydai782 There's a Google Chrome extension that shows them again!

[@nekolalia3389]

@@vesperdxn is there one for Firefox too?

[@BordrKing]

Now i need to fly all the way to Sheffield and so i can go to Yum Yum and tell them you gave them free advertising lmao

[@GoldenMinotaur]

I just did streetview near Yum Yum's, and holy shit the food options there haha, it's just a street full of restaurants

[@faisalal-humoud4858]

Man this takes me back! When I lived in Vancouver there was this place called numero uno pizza that made amazing food and you could buy 2 pizzas for 22 Canadian dollars. And wouldn't you guess after 11 pm people were lined up around the block

[@tedgovostis7351]

I go up to Whitby regularly for the goth festival, and rent a large house with multiple friends. Most of those time, the one place to get food when pissed at 2 am is a pizza and kebab place named Bitz and Pizzas. My friend Carl once fell asleep (passed out) mid conversation with a pizza box in his lap, so his hands were sitting in the middle of it (the pizza). About 20 minutes later woke up and just resumed eating it like there was no break in time.

[@Saber170292]

I can relate to using a kebab as a pillow. I once fell asleep holding a pot noodle, only to wake up with it spilled down my side believing I'd been sick. The offsprings worst hangover ever never felt so relevant

[@VelaiciaCreator]

Thankfully I learned to not drink more than necessary for tipsiness with two such occurrences, the second though was unintentional. First time I was 14 and I expelled most into a toilet and passed out for a day. The second time was when I was living in a homeless shelter and needed a fun night for morale, ended up taking an edible with my drinks and that combo hit me hard. There was also that time where I only got tipsy and tripped while walking down the stairs with tuna salad... spilled most of it and ended up with a really sore back. Alcoholism just saddens me nowadays, I am happier sober.

[@LunaEllis]

the best part of the whole MSG thing is that your body naturally produces it.

[@theHalken]

I am confused if "chips and rice" means a little of everything, or if Karl actually went in to buy two servings of carbs before work...

[@salerio61]

In the Plaza restaurant back in the day they did a thing called a "half and half" where you get half the servings of rice and half the servings of chips together. Maybe it's a northern thing.

[@thehermitman822]

@@salerio61 potato chips or 🍟?

[@donutchan8114]

Omg i can list so many meals that are just carbs upon carbs •rice and tortilla (corn or flour ) •rice and potato salad •potato taquitos •literally any sandwich and chip(uk or american definition) combo •different iterations of potato on one plate (I have the palate of a 3 year old dont @ me) You don't realize how many carbs you eat until you sit and write it all down

[@salerio61]

@@thehermitman822 chips, you know cuboid potato pieces put into hot oil

[@thehermitman822]

@@salerio61 French Fries. Got it.

[@ryvisthemad3357]

Gotta love Ginger Beef, the classic Canadian Chinese Food dish!

[@scottguesty]

Big fan of noodle inn centro just off west street, you order a big plate noodles dish and you get a BIG blate of noodles, it becomes a challenge in itself to finish it.

[@collinraley7578]

I'm now going to enjoy a succulent Chinese meal

[@rorywatt9752]

Ive got a place called GIGA in my city and it’s literally the greatest thing. The whole schtick of the place is oversized create your own burritos and it’s all made in-house. Although ive never ordered their biggest size, ive been heavily tempted on shitty days (it’s 2.5kg)

[@SumoLink1357]

Where do I find this?

[@tonyg25]

I went to a Korean bbq while chopped, ate so much I had breathing problems. No regret

[@AwesomeWookiee]

Nibbles Pizza Broomhill is the best pizzeria in Sheffield. Run by two italian guys who make amazing pizza and argue incessantly. It's friggin' awesome.

[@Bigbellystyles]

Pizza places like Dominoes use real cheese which is quite expensive. Take outs will use a fake cheese (analogue cheese) which is far cheaper.

[@ipsmith]

Also from Sheffield, can also confirm the high quality of Yum Yum

[@wyavern1381]

over here, oregon, dominos is the cheap pizza. the cheapest and some of the best is little ceasers, but you can get three pizzas for about $25 over here.

[@nhorsey12horses]

little ceasars is the best, cheap and good, and our local restaurant always supports school fundraisers and such

[@Portfelio]

Immediately knew it was MSG the minute I read it but... Here I am.

[@theoutcastplays6635]

3:02 This is what we call having a "food baby"

[@ScottCroom]

Sprinkle a tiny bit of MSG on vanilla ice cream. It's insanely amazing.

[@wiktorkowierski8334]

this just in!! Sheffield restaurant got 1000% increase due to popular youtuber Karl Smallwood sugested visiting in one of his videos

[@XenFPV]

Big ups Pasam Kebab, Falafel king, and Napoli Centro. Top tier.

[@Shanghaimartin]

Is Candy Town still around on London Road? That was always good for a 'work do'

[@BronzeJamo90]

I just imagine the first episode of black books from that starting tangent

[@cryena6474]

oddly convenient im watching this with a big ol' tin of lo mein the same moment this gets uploaded

[@midnightraver666]

msg is the greatest flavor agent ever. I put that shit on everything hearty.

[@marne.lierman]

I had intolerance issues with MSG for about 10 years of my life. Eating foods with flavor enhancers like MSG and malted barley flour would give me major stomach cramps and headaches. However, I will openly admit that it was entirely psychological. When the symptoms first started I was going through a really stressful time, and coped with the stress by eating savory foods full of MSG. For some reason my body decided that the flavor enhancer ingredients were my real problem, and so would give me brutal reminders of this every time I ate something with it. I knew that I'd recover from the issue eventually, but it did take a long time. I learned that taking Taurine pills blocked the absorption of MSG in the small intestines, so I took those for a few years while I reintroduced MSG into my diet. I'm all good now and back to normal, but those years without the MSG did teach me some good lessons in food flavoring, like that pretty much the only chip/crisp flavor without artificial flavor enhancers is Salt and Vinegar, and that rosemary is freaking amazing!

[@dylanhughes572]

There used to be an amazing buffet all you can eat Chinese place near me called "Little Lamb"... you cooked it yourself in a hotpot or mini rotisserie over hot coals. It shut down during covid cause obviously no one could go in there which crippled their ability to make money. I cried.. I would go at minimum once per month (more in the colder months). I'd taken everyone.. wife, dad, cousin, mates.. Booze was cheap too.. best place in the world.

[@TheAnt936]

as someone who lives in rotherham carls mentality on takeaways is correct.

[@manupbritain5232]

My local top dog chinese is called The Ho Ho. I love the names they choose but every time I go there I'm not sure if its a Christmas Shop or a brothel.

[@PhoenixDarkWing]

Oh my god, Sheffield is literally a 5 min train ride from me. And I know that Yum Yum restaurant

[@grizzlyfishreverso9654]

If you want good pizza in Sheffield, go to Pizza Master, my neighbour owns it and it is the best pizza ever, they do something called a pizza burger, which is 2 pizzas stacked on top of each other with a massive beef patty in between, they're the only people in Sheffield that do it

[@MrAntiKnowledge]

I used to think MSG is probably not the healthiest thing, but I won't mind eating it (kinda like fat and salt isn't the healthiest but it makes food taste better). But that mostly stems from my mother being very much opposed to it (tho she always assumes anything chemical sounding in the ingredientlist is inherently unhealty (ascorbate? That can't be good for us!) This video pushed my a bit more towards the "eh who cares, it won't kill me and it tastes great" camp.

[@simonwest9450]

I forgot Bud Light did those boxes with England players’ faces on them

[@hundredsoflegs]

Used to work in the pub opposite Yum Yums and lived off their chicken fried rice. Absolute king shit. Plus it comes in a cute cardboard box.

[@Otes]

I legit told my brother about this shit yesterday fact fiend is reading my mind

[@ketami2]

I don't remember the name of the restaurant but when I was in Edinburgh Scotland back in 2011 I found this Chinese resturant off the high street behind the Top Shop. no one spoke English, nearly all the customers and staff where Asian if not outright Chinese. (I say this as I didn't go around polling people) it was absolutely delicious and authentic. best Chinese food ever. I went a few times by myself and was the only non Asian there. I just pointed to the menu and got some fantastic dishes. if anyone has visited Edinburgh recently let me know if it's still there.

[@sakuradaidouji6526]

I have to tell people all the time about MSG. "its just salt. its just a better salt. thats all."

[@grizzlyfishreverso9654]

Idk if anyone else who lives in Sheffield remembers a Chinese restaurant in town called Dumbo's. It was basically an all you can eat Chinese food place and I used to love going there as a kid and I'm so sad it closed

[@hundredsoflegs]

Was it next to where the Arundel gate interchange is now? That was Jumbo's, I heard it was a combination of food hygiene and hiring trafficked staff :(

[@grizzlyfishreverso9654]

@@hundredsoflegs Oh wow, I hate it when places or people you love turn out to be dickheads

[@BhbtheRock]

Chinese restaurant syndrome is fake, but sushi syndrome is. Sushi syndrome is when I find it impossible to order exactly the right amount of sushi, it's always too much or too little

[@bangerbat]

Detroit had a morning radio person Mike Clark that fell asleep drunk with glasses on in a big salad covered in ranch dressing

[@ryanmccarthy8533]

That chef sounds like a fucking legend

[@tedybomber1713]

YumYum in Sheffield is now on my food list

[@MrGenie23432]

Domino's is considered mediocre pizza on the east coast of Canada. Most local mom and pop pizza joints are considered much higher quality. 😅

[@caseybailey5681]

if yall ever come to lawrence ks we got this place called pizza shuttle its good cheap pizza

[@allisonbergh4429]

The negative version of the placebo effect is the “nocebo” effect

[@lonergothonline]

I'm pretty sure, but not certain, that marmite is like the result of an accumulation of years upon years of testing things out to bring out umami in stews and stuff as well. I mean, I watched a youtube video about marmite from adam rasgusea and that pretty much informed me of this. he's like half professor, half chef, and he answers questions in a really watchable way, you end up binging his videos. its like technology connections or cathoderaydude.

[@pdeady3709]

I don't know how but everyone in the city I live in seems to goes to the same small takeaway.

[@shaunbowen3308]

The first few minutes reminds me of an episode of ncis or something like that I watched around 10 years ago. Dead guy was a serious over eater and morbidly obese. He went to a buffet one night and his stomach ended up exploding or something and they found his body in the dumpster in the back.

[@jasonpreston2703]

Chinese food syndrome is a thing but nisha is right. Basically the problem is it's way too good so you're more likely to eat too much of it. And that is the only real cause. And personally it's a trade off I think is worth it. There are worse problems than being too delicious

[@Antarcticite21]

I have to know about the box w the face just staring at us

[@flapjack279]

I feel the word could stay but the definition changes to all food, and specified its a placebo kind of thing. Like you described seeing something that might be off and boom you feel sick even though its perfectly fine.

[@flapjack279]

I miss heard it was called chines restaurant syndrome. Maybe specify its called, take out food syndrome

[@fnjesusfreak]

I actually live straight down the street from a Chinese joint.