That Time Torchwood Fought Actual Fairies

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Harbo Wholmes

Harbo Wholmes

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@HarboWholmes
@HarboWholmes 3 жыл бұрын
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@josephabrams4059
@josephabrams4059 3 жыл бұрын
I personally loved season one of torchwood. I feel that people got Cyberwoman confused. I think that Ianto and that doctor designed her that way to still make her feminine for Ianto's sake. Day One is another episode where people are looking to deep. That "he came and went" line made that episode worth it. Critics don't go back and scrutinize David Tennant's era. For God's sake Love and Monsters, Fear Her and The Idiot's Lantern are three of the worst Episodes. Only episodes they critique is the ones that Chybnall writes. Give me a break.
@mrgreeny906
@mrgreeny906 3 жыл бұрын
I like how this episode ended on a bad note. It shows not every story has a sweet ending... and then we have Children of Earth.. which is the most depressing, blackened, heartbreaking ending to a series ever in my opinion
@obi501
@obi501 3 жыл бұрын
It was fucking good tho
@rosiehawtrey
@rosiehawtrey 3 жыл бұрын
CoE is just Conservative education policy if politicians were honest. With a side of aliens. Treat kids like crap and fail their education, get Bubonic Boris as Prime Minister. We'll retard ourselves into extinction because tax cuts.
@mrgreeny906
@mrgreeny906 3 жыл бұрын
@@rosiehawtrey I actually had a thought not long ago about the government and how we have absolutely no idea the shit they’re talking about in meetings. It’s scary to think. Probs my paranoia tho after CoE 😂
@richardbourton4523
@richardbourton4523 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrgreeny906 the thing that hit me the hardest in CoE beyond everything else was that cobra-ish meeting when the woman said ‘...What about the failing schools?’ That landed like a ten tonne brick. Because you know that is EXACTLY what would happen in that situation. They’d receive the threat. They’d make a show of debating it and coo over the nobody wins somebody think of the children awfulness of it. Then after everyone was satisfactorily assured that they had shown themselves to be morally righteous, out would come the league tables and the maps of deprived urban areas and then they would start to plan. It was just so viscerally disgusting in how achingly real it was. It still makes me shudder to think of those characters sat in that room, all pretending that they hadn’t already thought of the idea and forcing themselves not to immediately agree.
@mrgreeny906
@mrgreeny906 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardbourton4523 I completely agree. The cast and crew did such a good job on making it so bloody realistic. The whole cobra meeting, which felt like half the episode, was one of the most climactic moments in the show. But it’s not just that, the cast performed it in a way where you could sense the fear and hatred in them that they’re having to do this - but then again, it’s one of those lose lose situations in the Whoniverse. Just like what the PM and the woman said, it’s either sacrifice millions of children or die.
@katyluvs2read
@katyluvs2read 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, the worst thing about this episode is that we never find out what happened to Estelle's cat after her death. Moses deserved more love!
@lotemylife3006
@lotemylife3006 2 жыл бұрын
OMG, I was so scared something might happen to the cat when she went looking for him
@mattthesilent777RED
@mattthesilent777RED Жыл бұрын
@@lotemylife3006 I'm afraid of cats, one jumped on the roof under my window and spooked me. I really can't stand them, I'm sorry
@theflyingspaniard6881
@theflyingspaniard6881 3 жыл бұрын
Weird winged creatures made from terrible CGI? *serious School Reunion flashbacks*
@user-jn1wm3tb8v
@user-jn1wm3tb8v 3 жыл бұрын
They're actually rather similar. Explorations of immortality and the past, earthbound adventures with children prominently featured.
@PwnZombie
@PwnZombie 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the Krillitane :(
@irrevenant8724
@irrevenant8724 3 жыл бұрын
And Father's Day...
@ethanhoworth5014
@ethanhoworth5014 3 жыл бұрын
@@PwnZombie same man, with older(ish) TV we gotta forgive shit CGI lol.
@JJ-bp1yp
@JJ-bp1yp 3 жыл бұрын
@@PwnZombie i liked Anthony Head but that's probably because I saw him in Merlin
@roryevans4295
@roryevans4295 3 жыл бұрын
I’m high and am just enjoying him being call “the nonce” instead of his of his actual name, word I use a lot, underrated as a word 👍
@callumdalton9560
@callumdalton9560 3 жыл бұрын
It's my favourite word
@Enderman121_
@Enderman121_ 3 жыл бұрын
Very underrated juvenile insult
@guymadgesam24
@guymadgesam24 Жыл бұрын
I watch it high yesterday and he's the creepiest thing in all of doctor who
@MegaFafnir
@MegaFafnir Ай бұрын
@@guymadgesam24 I take it you haven't met the 456 yet...
@dylannoneyabiz2426
@dylannoneyabiz2426 3 жыл бұрын
I think one of the things that sticks with me about this episode is that torchwood doesn't win? Or at least it's not like dr who, torchwood lets the faeries take Jasmine and if they hadn't got involved possibly Estelle wouldn't have died. (also letting a child be given to aliens and probably died hits different now that I've finally seen CoE, as you mentioned)
@ironnoah9461
@ironnoah9461 3 жыл бұрын
They probably killed her for knowing too much as well the reason above.
@cm5913
@cm5913 Жыл бұрын
My big takeaway from this episode was this. "What do we do when we have a Doctor level threat, but he isn't here?"
@KrisFrost4359
@KrisFrost4359 3 жыл бұрын
The first episode I ever saw of Torchwood. I actually think the bad CGI actually adds to the "otherness" of the Fairies. They're supposed to feel unnatural and wrong.
@lewiskazinsky7334
@lewiskazinsky7334 3 жыл бұрын
Twin Peaks did the same thing in 2017 by sticking in-camera tricks and cheap VFX. It looks so fake that you’re swallowed by just how demented the visuals are.
@mattiacraman4011
@mattiacraman4011 3 жыл бұрын
“Why don’t you take a seat” - Torchwood Fairies
@craytherlaygaming2852
@craytherlaygaming2852 3 жыл бұрын
Have you read celtic lore?.... this aint to far off from how powerful and terrifying they really are
@mattiacraman4011
@mattiacraman4011 3 жыл бұрын
@@craytherlaygaming2852 no I haven’t, but I’d be interested in looking it up actually! Any suggestions as to where to look?
@craytherlaygaming2852
@craytherlaygaming2852 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattiacraman4011 well no not really, but if you want the more tame fey to start with, look up things like Selkies. more terryfing ones are like Leanan Sidhe oh then theres Hobyahs which aren't that big a deal so long as you have a dog
@mattiacraman4011
@mattiacraman4011 3 жыл бұрын
@@craytherlaygaming2852 I’ll look into it! Thanks 😊
@craytherlaygaming2852
@craytherlaygaming2852 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattiacraman4011 your welcome Fey are a very interesting subject
@lucypreece7581
@lucypreece7581 3 жыл бұрын
I think them only scaring the bully girls is maybe the Faeries natural instinct to protect all children not just the chosen one. Like yes those girls were a threat to Jasmine but they are still children. I don't think the faeries wanted to harm an child in anyway because in the future they could be a chosen one or their future child could be a chosen one.
@rotok4850
@rotok4850 3 жыл бұрын
You can tell they achally did research into the fae . Like it's pretty inline with what people actually believe about them. Like the old lady even uses a chant and a crystal that would work to find them like dammm.
@Tom-ew6ro
@Tom-ew6ro 3 жыл бұрын
Take a drink everytime Harbo says "Nonce"
@mikemckenzie1397
@mikemckenzie1397 3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to buy more beers haha
@uK8cvPAq
@uK8cvPAq 3 жыл бұрын
Aww you beat me to it!
@lucypreece7581
@lucypreece7581 2 жыл бұрын
But please drink responsibly
@DanTheMan2150AD
@DanTheMan2150AD 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being left rather uncomfortable by this story, but I think that’s the idea of but that CGI has aged very very badly.
@jacob8565
@jacob8565 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the dodgy CGI kind of added to the uncanny and uncomfortable feel
@andrewb2494
@andrewb2494 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with the CGI from what I have seen. Haven't seen the ep yet. Also I'm mint from the discord server
@DanTheMan2150AD
@DanTheMan2150AD 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewb2494 hello Mint.
@stephjovi
@stephjovi 3 жыл бұрын
O t was 14 years ago it's not bloody Marvel. I don't get why people always make fun of the cgi it's alright
@rosiehawtrey
@rosiehawtrey 3 жыл бұрын
It was supposed to jar and look disjointed - to emphasise the unreality of the unseelie fae.
@oliverarmstrong502
@oliverarmstrong502 3 жыл бұрын
'creepy nonce' a phrase I never thought Harbo would say
@cameronmonaghan6883
@cameronmonaghan6883 3 жыл бұрын
And he uses it A LOT
@ArrowOdenn
@ArrowOdenn 9 ай бұрын
It's interesting when you realise that in Jack's timeline, he has already sacrificed 11 children to the 456 in exchange for the cure to a disease that would have killed millions. He already knows that sometimes children cannot be saved and that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Of course in this case, Jasmine also knew what would happen to her and wanted to go.
@cathe8282
@cathe8282 3 жыл бұрын
This was the story, for me, that cemented the fact that Torchwood was very different from Dr Who...and then to follow with "Countrycide" was even more of a shock. I love this episode and you've been spot on with your analysis. Seeing your reviews makes me wanna watch series 1 and 2 again. Thanks for making these.
@entertain7us148
@entertain7us148 3 жыл бұрын
the one thing I can't stand about this episode is how it completely overlooks Ianto's trauma. We go from Ianto sobbing and condemning Jack, saying he's worse than any monster they've ever fought, overcoming the tragic loss of his girlfriend, and then in the very next episode he's just having a cheery chat with Jack about magic mushrooms???????? what?!!!!!
@dependencyonlove8751
@dependencyonlove8751 3 жыл бұрын
*Favorite Whoniverse Villians* Cybermen, Daleks, Silence, Angels, Master and *Nonce*
@danm3882
@danm3882 3 жыл бұрын
I really like Jacks dilemma with handing Jasmine over as it’s seeds the the idea for when he kills his grandson in one of the most harrowing scenes I’ve ever seen on TV.
@The13thElysium
@The13thElysium 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the petal deaths are so gruesome but also kind of appropriate - I always saw it as a kind of whimsical way for the fairies to kill someone showing the fairies vindictive and sinister side. Definitely some of the scariest enemies in Series 1 of Torchwood!
@liamogden353
@liamogden353 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the only person who felt no sympathy for the mother in this episode. She clearly didn’t care about her daughter at all until it was too late. She allowed her husband to abuse her, made her walk home from school on her own at the age of like 6 (which almost got her kidnapped by a nonce), didn’t pay enough attention to notice bullying, and spent so much time crying over her abusive husband that she didn’t even notice her daughter being taken by the fairies. Her borderline neglectful parenting throughout the episode just made it so hard to sympathise when she was crying for her daughter at the end for me
@jackcollinsmartin4210
@jackcollinsmartin4210 3 жыл бұрын
Also something interesting: In a recent DW novel, there was one for series 10 with Twelve and Bill called "The Shining Man". Well in the book, the villains end up being the same fae from this Torchwood episode. There are even mentions about flower petals being shoved down peoples' throats, the Lost/Chosen ones, etc. Also in the book, they end up expanding on the faeries as well. They end up: - Going to their world (which is very eldritch and humans apparently can't handle experiencing the world without assistance) - Learning about different species of faeries. And about different experiences that humans have had throughout history. - The Doctor calls them "Ultra-Terrestrials" and explains how the fae world is incredibly vast throughout the universe. That it's pretty much everywhere. All around, it expands on mystical forces in Who which are usually much more in the background. Because in a franchise like Who which focuses more around science fiction and coming up with some technobabble explanations, it's really interesting to see things that are truly magical.
@therealpbristow
@therealpbristow 5 ай бұрын
Interesting comment to read in the light of the most recent season of Who... =:o}
@marcino457
@marcino457 3 жыл бұрын
The effects usually don't bother me, but damn this CG is really rough. Also it's not helped by moments like 11:01 where it's clear that the actors had no idea where the fairies actually were and how they were moving. Having physical placeholders for actors to interact with would've made the effects much more tangible once they added the CGI.
@jeremyashford2145
@jeremyashford2145 3 жыл бұрын
A reference to the Doctor Who episode where Queen Victoria established Torchwood would have been appropriate here with the reminder that Torchwood was not just set up to fight extraterrestrials. Opportunity missed.
@gingy2142
@gingy2142 3 жыл бұрын
This was a good episode very underrated
@Venemofthe888
@Venemofthe888 3 жыл бұрын
Im kinda glad i forgot about this episode and saw it with fresh eyes. I thought it was in series 2 actually lol
@EternalPayne
@EternalPayne 3 жыл бұрын
I liked Estelle and Jack's relationship tbh the fairies pissed me off when they killed her for no reason.
@cameronmonaghan6883
@cameronmonaghan6883 3 жыл бұрын
This was the turning point for me. Where the formula of a Doctor Who threat meets a more adult tone whilst i like some mythical concepts turning out to be aliens. I do prefer it if sometimes if mythical beings and magic being just that, as it is a complete polar opposite and allows for more creative storytelling without having to follow set rules. One point that's left out is the reference to The Mara, from the Davison era. I like to think The Mara is the Alpha predator in their dimension. Hunting and feeding on The Fairies in their world just as they play and kill people in ours.
@FortoFight
@FortoFight 3 жыл бұрын
This episode is very "tell don't show" imo. They just establish a bunch of lore about these fairies when all we see is them occasionally killing people or flying around.
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard Жыл бұрын
I think this episode actually added a lot to the Whoniverse as a whole - I love the idea that there are these cosmic horrors that just can't be beaten or outwitted, whose motives and methods are entirely alien. I'd like to see villains like that in the main series tbh.
@zigzagzoom369
@zigzagzoom369 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, yeah, this was the last episode I watched as a kid (while far too young to be watching it). That visual of the fairy shoving it's arm down the stepdad's throat MESSES ME UP. I genuinely remembered it being a lot more gory than it was (I might have mistaken the petals for it actually pulling his guts out or something) because I was surprised at how much it isn't explicitly graphic? Had to nope out of the show originally 'cos this was TOO DARK so I'm really curious to see the rest of these recaps and find out why Torchwood is well-regarded
@dialpforpete621
@dialpforpete621 3 жыл бұрын
At least Estelle's cat survived. That's my main take away from this.
@dylanburton4955
@dylanburton4955 3 жыл бұрын
Just watched this last night, it was a good episode and I like how they didn't win. The fact they had to still give the girl away just shows how powerful the fairies are
@dylanburton4955
@dylanburton4955 3 жыл бұрын
@dr103 It's just a good showcase that they can't always get it right and they can't always win
@cookie1157
@cookie1157 3 жыл бұрын
Are we not going to talk about how Jack says he never sleeps but this episode starts with him waking up from a nightmare? Small plot hole, but still.
@therealpbristow
@therealpbristow 5 ай бұрын
Rule One: Jack lies. =:o}
@willgraham1044
@willgraham1044 2 ай бұрын
@@therealpbristow haha
@craytherlaygaming2852
@craytherlaygaming2852 3 жыл бұрын
I ended up looking up celtic fey for a personal project and It allowed me to appreciate this ep that much more especially since Celtic fey Really are terrifying and this portrays that well.
@Little_Yu-Gi
@Little_Yu-Gi 3 жыл бұрын
15:24 - I understand what you mean but I always assumed that the fairies don’t want to harm children on principle. - Like they actually care about their innocence.
@cameronmonaghan6883
@cameronmonaghan6883 3 жыл бұрын
I just realized no one adressed Jasmine's absent father. Maybe that's significant for her being a chosen one?
@cameronmonaghan6883
@cameronmonaghan6883 3 жыл бұрын
@dr103 yes the step father. No one else
@stephjovi
@stephjovi 3 жыл бұрын
Is it bad that I was sad Estelle died but mostly really relived the fairies didn't hurt the cat?
@GlorianaLovejoy
@GlorianaLovejoy 3 жыл бұрын
I wholly admit my primary concern was for the kitty. I mean, Estelle had a good, long life, y'know? Moses still had mice to catch & trees to climb.
@stephjovi
@stephjovi 3 жыл бұрын
@@GlorianaLovejoy did you also wonder who's gonna take care of him? I thought maybe he'll be OK outside but I hope some neighbor takes him in.
@GlorianaLovejoy
@GlorianaLovejoy 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephjovi In my headcanon, Torchwood has funding for a built-in "Pet Relocation Service", to take care of any pets caught up in the crossfire of alien investigations.
@steve-0493
@steve-0493 3 жыл бұрын
@@GlorianaLovejoy and don't forget,scratching posts to scratch,and hairballs to puke up 🤣!!..makes me miss my boy,Cicero,been 5yrs now..he made it to 14.
@VeracityLH
@VeracityLH 3 жыл бұрын
I agree the visuals on this one were great, aging CGI aside, and I loved how this advanced Jack's story. The only place this episode really falls down for me is the end; I do not understand why the team is so mad at Jack, especially Gwen. Everything he has told them and everything they have seen show that the fairies are unbeatable. I just want Jack to yell "Did you have a better idea?!?" It just doesn't make sense to me. Be mad atthe situation, sure, but their anger at Jack is unwarranted considering their knowledge (not ours, I'm basing this just on what they see, especially Gwen). Ah well, it's still a better episode than most give it credit for.
@Arkus
@Arkus Жыл бұрын
The Fairies were definately out of Jack's and Torchwood's league. It's episodes like this that make me wonder how the Doctor would handle them.
@ironnoah9461
@ironnoah9461 3 жыл бұрын
I must admit Harbo, these videos like your Orphan 55 one give me some material for some potential Doctor Who stories that I'm currently planning (And working on the storyboard for one). And thanks for bringing this story to light for me, as I came up with a story idea called "Faerie Tales" which kinda plays out like Small Worlds with some changes, Especially the ending to make it more bittersweet.
@xenon8117
@xenon8117 3 жыл бұрын
Only reason I don’t watch this episode more is because Estelle is so sweet and dies a bad death. I hate watching that happen to her.
@GlorianaLovejoy
@GlorianaLovejoy 3 жыл бұрын
This was actually my fave episode from Series 1. I'm a sucker for anything involving old myths/legends, and exploring anything from Jack's eventful past. Plus, it did feature a really cute kitty.
@orangepizzaparty688
@orangepizzaparty688 3 жыл бұрын
I watched this when I was 11 yet I never really felt attached to this or scared, though I was scared by the petals coming out of their mouth.
@Yvonne_2473
@Yvonne_2473 3 жыл бұрын
I always liked the episode a lot. The show often has low budget special effects, but wins with the good stories. And I just love every little bit of info we can get of Jack's past.
@YodaOnABender
@YodaOnABender 3 жыл бұрын
9:57 primeval also did this with creatures like dragons and the Hopkinsville goblin
@burntgrahamcracker2866
@burntgrahamcracker2866 3 жыл бұрын
They’re very reminiscent of the elves from terry pratchetts discworld as those also take joy in causing other peoples suffering. I do still imagine there would be a way of killing them as they are tangible creatures it’d just involve some time fuckery and I would put in the effort as I see what the faeries do as grooming they come across as all friendly to lure the child in and corrupt them
@scottradburn-acting794
@scottradburn-acting794 3 жыл бұрын
Tobe honest when jasmine showed up at the end in the photo I thought it was an insight into the finale as that would of ended the world something the fairies say at the end where when world ends they go back in time to find more chosen ones And Jasmine being shown at the end shows that it has happened
@AiRsTrIkExXzZ
@AiRsTrIkExXzZ 2 жыл бұрын
This might be one of the safest episodes. Literally everyone loses whilst the villain wins
@picklesparkerreviews
@picklesparkerreviews 3 жыл бұрын
Great Review Harbo! This was one of the few Torchwood episodes I watched when I was quite young, and the imagery stuck with me, I've always found its horror aspects extremely effective. Its really underrated, and its easily one of my favourites from Series 1.
@Lia-uf1ir
@Lia-uf1ir Жыл бұрын
Whenever Torchwood faces such creatures like the fairies, I always wonder how the Doctor would react to them and fight them if possible.
@Venemofthe888
@Venemofthe888 3 жыл бұрын
I watched this episode yesterday in preparation for your review and honestly i thought this was a episode in series two and forgot about this one the most. Its not a bad episode its kinda in the middle out of the episodes so far id say its the 2nd worst but there are still more episodes and i know it wont be after the series has finished. Anyways i do agree with Captain Jacks decision at the end it was the better of the two evils and everyone giving him a hard time is understandable but its like what would you have done in that situation where neither option is very good. Also the fairies putting there arms into someones mouth and doing something is quite horrible and choking on petals is a unique way to kill somebody
@dethlokprime8655
@dethlokprime8655 3 жыл бұрын
No, the faeries aren’t out of Torchwood’s league; Torchwood is out of the faeries’ league.
@nicolebee3283
@nicolebee3283 3 жыл бұрын
I really liked this episode. I’m so excited for your next 2 reviews though as they’re some of my favourite episodes.
@harrymcsherry5272
@harrymcsherry5272 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of this episode the ending is perfect Jack has no option and this shows he isn't the Doctor and has no other solution to let her go very well acted by John and Eve
@kuradamax
@kuradamax 3 жыл бұрын
honestly your videos on torchwood made me look back recently and realize... it's just a Hunter: the Vigil game, this episode being a crossover with Changeling: the Lost
@theflyingspaniard6881
@theflyingspaniard6881 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for countricide!
@killerkelds2994
@killerkelds2994 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@EternalPayne
@EternalPayne 3 жыл бұрын
Countryicide was one of the scariest episodes in the DW universe for the simple reason that there wasn't any big bad aliens and the villians were human. The whole episode is like a horror movie and it shows that humans can be monsters too and just as bad (or worse) than the aliens that come to earth best episode of S1 easily.
@rosiehawtrey
@rosiehawtrey 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to rural Wales - in some places its almost that bad - horizontal rain, oil spills, and x files sheep that try to mug you for your packed lunch - not to mention the sentient clarty holes that try to drown you. But that lot - the inbreeding just shines through - Appalachia eat yer heart out.
@princeofasturias
@princeofasturias 3 жыл бұрын
yep
@ozdocwho5177
@ozdocwho5177 3 жыл бұрын
Countricide is the only episode of Torchwood that I hate and refuse to watch. Probably because of the fact there are no aliens and it hits a bit to close to home.
@harrietchapman3564
@harrietchapman3564 3 жыл бұрын
I watch Torchwood when it came out when I was ten and I absolutely adored this episode, I think about it A LOT
@wyntisoffe6154
@wyntisoffe6154 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing you cover Countrycide hopefully in the future
@joshsylvester1450
@joshsylvester1450 3 жыл бұрын
You’re wrong about Jack being the main character. Gwen is the protagonist in every aspect possible
@rachelmullock6296
@rachelmullock6296 3 жыл бұрын
as a kid this scared me more than anything, more than the empty child, more than countrycide. for weeks and weeks i went around being nice to everyone because i didn't know whether they were a chosen one or not haha
@yeoldpepsi
@yeoldpepsi 3 жыл бұрын
HECK my 'priorities', there's a new Harbo video!
@haydenpemberton9972
@haydenpemberton9972 3 жыл бұрын
This was one of the first times I wondered what would have happened if the doctor was there, would he have had access to something to stop them
@WheelsOfViolets
@WheelsOfViolets 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I forgot about this episode!
@Lurmmings
@Lurmmings 3 жыл бұрын
"Episodes like Day One and Cyberwoman, which most people hate with every bone in their bodies." I guarantee you, at least one of my bones enjoyed Day One ;D
@padriagpearse1010
@padriagpearse1010 3 жыл бұрын
I was 5 in 2006 and I watched Doctor Who growing up. I was told not to watch Torchwood so I did lol 😆 Didn’t understand Day One (obviously too young) and was bored by Ghost Machine (because no monster) but my God did the Fairies scare the shit out of me when i was young. Just the fact they couldn’t be stopped and basically won in the end and can kill you anyway any when. Only the Empty Child The Angles and the Vashta Narada got the same spooks out of me. Very underrated episode very happy the review agrees great analysis. 👏
@cf_woodygaming
@cf_woodygaming 3 жыл бұрын
Loving these Torchwood reviews
@Lunabyes
@Lunabyes 3 жыл бұрын
THE CHRIS HANSEN FAERIES IM WHEEZING
@sjins1poolboy698
@sjins1poolboy698 3 жыл бұрын
I have no memory of this episode... Looks like I need to do a rewatch of season 1. Thanks for reminding me of this episode!
@sir-mass3909
@sir-mass3909 3 жыл бұрын
I actually quite like the off CGI, since ut seems to somehow are the fairies even creepier, at least it does for me
@ninjadudeofficial
@ninjadudeofficial 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode tbf Kick a kiddy fiddler every time he says nonce, can't help laughing a little
@archnetwork391
@archnetwork391 3 жыл бұрын
I spent the whole weekend writing, recording and editing a review of this very episode which I couldn’t stand. So seeing you do a review talking about the same points but in a positive way is quite the strange feeling. I still find this episode to be one of the worst Torchwood episodes but you made a really great review here. Well done mate 👍
@rosiehawtrey
@rosiehawtrey 3 жыл бұрын
Just call him who he is - Barry Backstory.
@NessieSmith15
@NessieSmith15 3 жыл бұрын
This was LITREALLY my favourite episode growing up, even if it scare me. So happy its FIANLLY getting the recognition it deserves
@sophiejones7727
@sophiejones7727 3 жыл бұрын
You kept calling the fairies “evil”, but imo what is great about this episode is that they aren’t exactly evil. The fairies here operate almost like a virus: they are forced to take our children because they can’t reproduce on their own. Both sides of the human/fairy conflict make decisions that result in the violence. The fairies manipulate Jasmine, and choose to hide from the humans. Thus humans are ignorant about them, about how they live and what motivates them. Only when it is far too late does Jack understand, all they wanted was to reproduce. Had someone known enough to negotiate with them earlier, a more fair arrangement could have been worked out. Of course, the humans made decisions too: they were too angry and fearful to ask the right questions. Too judgemental to look past the first appearance. And of course, whether on accident or on purpose: the humans have built a society that is antithetical to the fairies. To me, what this episode was about was why wars happen, why negotiations fail. Why different groups of people (stories are never about monsters) can’t always get along. Why it’s easy to say “we all share a home, the Earth” but much harder to act that way.
@TheToonMonkey
@TheToonMonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Not convinced the word nonce was used enough in this video.
@thevickers6276
@thevickers6276 3 жыл бұрын
after torchwood reviews are you going to carry on with doctor who s4
@orangepizzaparty688
@orangepizzaparty688 3 жыл бұрын
I’m excited to finish this
@stellaluna92
@stellaluna92 3 жыл бұрын
This was always my favourite episode when I was a teen. I'm glad others like it too and it is getting its due diligence
@whenthepawn99
@whenthepawn99 11 ай бұрын
I watched this episode when I was way too young and without my parents permission/knowledge. It disturbed me so much but i viewed the fairies as basically good at the time due to my age and the way they protect the child.
@wanderingrandomer
@wanderingrandomer 3 жыл бұрын
This one creeped me out way more than the cannibal one
@krustykrabmeat6881
@krustykrabmeat6881 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, I think it’s partly because Torchwood overcame the cannibals but there’s nothing they could really do here. It’s the threat of an unstoppable force.
@TheWolfXCIX
@TheWolfXCIX 3 жыл бұрын
The best episode involving fighting fairies was Kiss Kiss Bang Bang though 👀
@JoshRazauskas
@JoshRazauskas 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot about this episode. Great breakdown as always man!
@etherealtb6021
@etherealtb6021 3 жыл бұрын
I've always loved this ep. Thanks!
@mothost6929
@mothost6929 11 ай бұрын
Doctor Who villains: Spooky aliens who scream and usually wanna take over or destroy the world with their laser weapons Torchwood villains: STRAIGHT UP CONVICTED PEDOPHILES AND CANNIBALS-
@awkwardyoshi6979
@awkwardyoshi6979 Жыл бұрын
As a kid whenever anyone mentioned Torchwood for years I'd think of this episode, especially the 1909 flashback and the guy throwing up flowers. Rewatching it like the rest of older-ish who, the cgi is the only complaint i can even think of. Personally I enjoy it, makes me a little less scared years later 😅
@jessicaable5095
@jessicaable5095 3 жыл бұрын
I hate the fact that that woman never really found out how much of a bastard her boyfriend really was
@jessicaable5095
@jessicaable5095 3 жыл бұрын
@dr103 of course I feel bad for her. But often understanding why things happen makes them easier to bare. Plus I'd rather she hate her boyfriend for pushing her away than Jack
@cloudsombrero
@cloudsombrero 3 жыл бұрын
i wonder how the doctor would handle the fair folk
@tinykemper2561
@tinykemper2561 3 жыл бұрын
By getting his feet turned into bloody stumps I would assume
@uK8cvPAq
@uK8cvPAq 3 жыл бұрын
By teaming up with them to defeat nonces.
@PwnZombie
@PwnZombie 3 жыл бұрын
The doctor is a nonce, he loves girls 900 years younger than him
@EternalPayne
@EternalPayne 3 жыл бұрын
@@PwnZombie never thought of it like that.....
@cloudsombrero
@cloudsombrero 3 жыл бұрын
@@PwnZombie jack too
@killerkelds2994
@killerkelds2994 3 жыл бұрын
Loves the vids man
@Jayforeman3047
@Jayforeman3047 10 ай бұрын
I've always enjoyed this little underappreciated gem to be honest.
@RealBadGaming52
@RealBadGaming52 3 жыл бұрын
this was a fantastic episod and i love Jacks building mythology of his life on earth during the 100 hes been stuck here since 1899
@jbcatz5
@jbcatz5 3 жыл бұрын
The idea of the fairies, existing outside of time in such an out of context sense, feel a lot like they would be a good fit in Sapphire and Steel, the surreal horror fantasy series PJ Hammond created. The entities Sapphire and Steel would go up against were such that the duo needed to work out the logic they worked by and how to use that to resolve the time break they were assigned to deal with, sometimes at a steep cost to the human characters caught up in the phenomena. The fairies are like this in that Torchwood’s technology has no ability to do anything but record the aftermath, they’re so otherworldly that traditional weapons are useless, so primal the very elements bend to their will. Even Jack can do nothing but concede defeat, and Lynn loses a boyfriend and daughter in the process.
@therealpbristow
@therealpbristow 5 ай бұрын
Well, it was written by the same guy, so... Maybe recycling an unused S&S concept? =:o}
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 3 жыл бұрын
I hope we see the Ninth Doctor encounter the Fairies with Madame Vastra in the Ninth Doctor audiobooks
@Th3Rad10D3m0m
@Th3Rad10D3m0m 6 ай бұрын
Fight the fairies - Dean Winchester
@Domisbeast
@Domisbeast 3 жыл бұрын
Just a request, could you do a video on the animated story Dreamland? That would be great thx.
@greglinks
@greglinks 3 жыл бұрын
I weirdly like this story but the CGI looks like poop. Its a shame really because we start to learn more about Jacks past which is further emphasised in "Captain Jack Harkness"
@sammydingdong4540
@sammydingdong4540 3 жыл бұрын
When the BBC actually made a decent episode ,great video by the way for a very sad story ,I remember crying when the little girl was taken ,I was only 10 at the time.
@WingedSumac
@WingedSumac 3 жыл бұрын
The show Supernatural had the greatest episode about fairies ever. So damn funny! Don't spread your wack-a-doo dust around here! (Drawing a blank on the exact line from Sam, but god damn was it funny!)
@Ilogunde
@Ilogunde 3 жыл бұрын
Fight the Fairies!
@WingedSumac
@WingedSumac 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ilogunde HaHa! Mayne the greatest adlib line in tv & film ever. I'm sure Jared was trying like hell not to bust up laughing when he screamed that.
@Ilogunde
@Ilogunde 3 жыл бұрын
@@WingedSumac I totally loved that episode and their spin on UFOs and Fairies. Robert Picardo was a great plus (massive Star Trek fan here). But Jensens line was so hilarious it overshadowed everything. Now, whenever someone mentions Fairies I can hear him shouting it in my head... 😀
@WingedSumac
@WingedSumac 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ilogunde Ha. Yeah, me too. Supernatural was always my wife and I's go to show just to have noise when cleaning or anything else. We catch ourselves quoting the show in front of other people and confusing them all of the time.
@PanBelacqua
@PanBelacqua 2 жыл бұрын
To offer a bit of defense with regards to the ordering of the episode, young kids (even mean ones) are easier to empathize with than pedophiles.
@Dr3Mc3Ninja
@Dr3Mc3Ninja 3 жыл бұрын
I fucking LOVE this episode. S tier. It makes me sad, though. Estelle and Moses...
@bardlover6
@bardlover6 3 жыл бұрын
Estelle was such a great character
@DanielDiaz-um1xd
@DanielDiaz-um1xd 3 жыл бұрын
So after reading the comments I counted the nonce's, bout 11, shame as 7 would have been a magical number to suit the fairy theme
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