Son Discovers His Mom’s Disturbing Secret

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The Heather Strube case began when a young mother was going to collect her son and the unthinkable happened. Many witnesses saw a strange man near Heather Strube, but the police were unable to identify who he was. But was he really a "he"?
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[@jammyg164]

What hit me the most was when she didn’t wanna look at the picture and said ‘I don’t wanna subject myself to that’ yet she let her grandson….

[@paularanson2990]

How very true

[@angelwillis173]

She also verbally said she couldn't bare to see it but she was very calm and didn't actually seem uncomfortable with the obviously graphic photo she was being shown. If anything, she seemed angry to have to look at the woman she hated enough to murder

[@Doxwife]

Narcissism at its finest…

[@astarryeyedgirl]

He's not real to her. Nobody is. She's a Cluster B, so she entirely lacks a theory of mind. She doesn't understand that other people are actually real people, and even if she could comprehend such a thing, she doesn't GAFF about anybody but herself. Not even her own son matters, except insofar as he fulfills her various needs.

[@Ayaistakingabreak]

How selfish can you be to take away the life of your grandchild’s mom? And then walk away leaving that poor baby in the car????

[@AlaborJinta]

what did you think would happen to the baby though? why would she take it and reveal her identity.

[@kristinwojtowich8902]

​@@AlaborJintashe did it in a parking lot full of winesses' she's not exactly a genius 😂 Her identity was going to come out eventually, she might as well have taken the kid. I just think she djdnt expect her own son to turn on her- probably thought he'd be thankful or some shit bc she's crazy.

[@ihawms950]

​@kristinwojtowich8902 why would you want a murderer to take the child?

[@nattydaddy316]

i’ll say it again…. always the fatties

[@yummyjackalmeat]

Leaving a baby alone without anyone in that parking lot, and without a mother forever. Evil.

[@amberorm1273]

Joanna loves her grandson so much, that she takes away the boy’s mother, AND, then leaves him in the car, ALONE. Now, that screams “Grandma-of-the-Year”! (And, Mother-of-the-Year, to boot) EVIL and SHAMEFUL beyond comprehension! She should be given the harshest sentence possible!

[@cynsi7604]

@@amberorm1273 ​​⁠ YES! she should. I think it should be NO CONTACT with her grandchild (or any grandchildren if she has more in the future)! And when I imply NO CONTACT I’m saying NO photos, letters, inquiring about them in any form. Tack that on AFTER her regular sentence is handed down. There ARE CONSEQUENCES for the ACTIONS you choose to CAUSE HARM!! And in this day and age time it is definitely forgotten about!! The INNOCENT ones ARE PAYING THAT GREAT PRICE, because those who CANNOT CONTROL THEIR-SELVES. ✌🏻

[@ojay8961]

Someone was going to find the baby laying beside the dead body on the street

[@yummyjackalmeat]

@@ojay8961 no shit

[@apeyoutube7485]

The trauma ugh 😢

[@CK8smallville]

She said Heather did not have morals. When did murder become moral?

[@7jcjg]

sociopathic narcissists don't abide by our shame, they just use morals as a weapon against others that do care about it.

[@samanthanickson6478]

apparently, only the son was allowed to cheat. so many morals. DIL wasn’t supposed to have anyone else

[@vladdyydaddy]

In self defense

[@robertmoffett3486]

Oh, morals are on a spectrum like genders Pick any you like, they're all good

[@robertmoffett3486]

​@@vladdyydaddy Self defense isn't murder at all

[@lizc6393]

I shouldn't be, but I'm just utterly boggled by the number of murders motivated by custody issues.

[@desireenicole2497]

But my brother is going through a a divorce with my soon-to-be ex sister-in-law they've been together like 11 years married 10 and she has been absolutely non-stop manipulative lying under the core straight perjury just very vindictive and it's been a year since we've been able to see the kids she won't let my parents near the kids she won't let me near the kids she won't let my brother near the kids so I can absolutely see how people can murder somebody when it comes to things like this because it is absolutely devastating what somebody can do to you just because they're being vindictive My brother supported her through her different careers that she wanted to do he paid for everything she wanted to be a teacher she couldn't pass the test so she quit on that she wanted to be a medical student she couldn't pass the test on that so she went to be like a medical assistant she wanted to do stuff with like tarot cards and crystals and bought her thousands of dollars worth of these things he supported her through all of this and then she said she was going to Vegas to go see your brother but turns out she was actually going to see her secret boyfriend that she had met while working in a doctor's office she is now dating this doctor my brother is a veteran from the Iraq Pakistan Afghanistan wars and has PTSD around certain things and she would call him a p**** tell him he was a b**** that he couldn't handle things that he was weak and pathetic and on and on she was physically abusive emotionally abusive all of ityeah because it's a no-fault state Florida is my brother can't use anything that she did to begin the divorce against her in the court and the courts are extremely biased against fathers in the process of custody child support all of this things they even have a prenup from when she cheated on him when they were like 5 years into the marriage where he agreed to give her like $1,500 a month and like half of his retirement fund and she's like no I don't want that I want more and now she's trying to go after like 6,000 a month which is like all he makes plus she's trying to take the house that they have how about together in their marriage as well as 50% of his retirement and she wants full custody of the kids I we've been to court like four times and the judge won't even let my brother or his lawyer speak all they've done is listen to her side and it's been a year now

[@cdes1776]

And they think they won't get caught! It *never* seems to occur to them they'll likely be caught and what those consequences will mean. I think she wanted the baby.

[@marcuswilliams5255]

I mean, it makes sense. People are pretty serious about their children in comparison to most things.

[@Thetruththatisee]

I bet its huge.

[@Ayaistakingabreak]

@@marcuswilliams5255i think that people who actually care about their children would not destroy their lives by doing such a horrific act though

[@gtw4546]

“startled, taken aback, seemed confused” - sounds like Heather recognized her killer even with the disguise, like “why are you wearing that?!"

[@batarasiagian9635]

Agreed.

[@muggleintheupsidedown]

Agreed! So damn sad.

[@KaladinVegapunk]

The crazy mom absolutely seems like a self righteous bible thumping lunatic that would be able to justify murder because she thinks she's in the right

[@ppw2393]

Good point. This hag, figured she had her bases covered. She gaslighted her son his entire life. Hopefully she's happy in prison and never gets out. RIP Heather

[@mikesrdtrukr]

Excellent observation.

[@plague_kat]

Gotta love how she can't stop shit-talking Heather for one fucking second. It's so normal to her that she doesn't even think she to stop to make her look better.

[@jessed6151]

They get stuck in a brain wire, where they're almost on auto pilot. She thought she was in the clear so she couldn't help but do her regular spiel of shit talking in front of everyone except her son. But cops usually look for how the relationship dynamics are in the families that are involved in these cases so for her to be blankly vindictive to Heather who was beloved by everyone, probs really struck the cops as odd. These ppl like Joanne are so weird/ creepy, least of all dangerous, they don't live in the same reality as the rest of us, mentally speaking. As far as I've known, there's no cure for these types of people, it's no shocker she raised Steven who ended up being a cheater, a narcissistic trait that would defs be passed down because she would teach Steven how view others and how to treat them, it's truly sick and needs more awareness brought to society. There's more people like this than people like to believe, maybe not lethally dangerous, but mentally so.

[@mikesanders8621]

I think the original comment was a tad more succinct.

[@Jabarri74]

That phone call where he asked her was telling. No way an innocent person wouldn't react with fury at the accusation rather than flat denials

[@cappuchino_creations]

You almost could hear the fake smile in it. "I didn't do it :)"

[@michelleruss9877]

Custody exchanges can be so fricking dangerous. The Police station where I live has special spots marked for just this. Poor baby

[@franpag2611]

A good idea because it is a hard time.

[@chrismanspeaker9372]

Man, what a sorry state of affairs we live in that kids are used in this way. Its a societal failing when kids are used to punish partners.

[@osley7347]

Nah where I live there was an exchange at the police station and the dad murdered the mother with a shotgun some people just don’t care :/

[@BronnyJames2025MVP]

People are capable of anything when they feel like they have nothing left to lose.

[@feraltaco4783]

That is a brilliant idea!

[@rogermortis6583]

Poor man's first reaction is to worry about the impact of this on his child. That kid has a better chance than many of being ok with that at least.

[@artistgirl1489]

That’s what I thought. That’s how I knew he wasn’t involved.

[@thehangingparsiple5692]

I thought he came across as completely fake!

[@lannah080907]

@@thehangingparsiple5692I did too.

[@TiffanyStarr2141]

As soon as he said that, I *KNEW* he wasn't involved.

[@circlecityzombie]

​@@thehangingparsiple5692didn't seem fake to me jus someone in shock that his dumbass mom would do something like that

[@HannahMattox]

That detective didn't want to talk to Joanna anymore. He needed to, but he was so glad she asked for a lawyer.

[@walkerlocker6126]

Tbh he lost his cool a little too soon. He should have had his suspect floundering and frustrated, not himself while she calmly responds. Now that interrogation footage COULD be used as proof that police were trying to threaten her into confession. I do understand his frustration but I was smh at that part

[@tawnie8550]

She won't look at the pictures because she "doesn't want to be subjected to that" and yet let her grandson be subjected to that.... she is a crazy nut job. Horrible mother, horrible grandmother, horrible person.

[@lorireed8046]

My Ex mother in law was like this. I had to walk away (28 years) with ZERO to get away from her and her threatening words. The amount of times I dealt with my ex MILs vile was sinister. Moved over 3000 miles away with ZERO to escape her and the threats was unreal.

[@m.y.o.b.724]

The gall of Joanna calling Heather an unfit mother when she herself is one of the worst parents ever. Who does that to their child and grandson... Ugh!😠

[@nadaleenbrady8183]

Sxsssr

[@rhondasisco-cleveland2665]

A narcissist. She only cared about having CONTROL of those two boys.

[@martinabest5801]

A raging lunatic delusional narcissist does that to their child and grandchild, that's who. They only think of themselves and don't give a damn about anyone else and who they harm. She sure as hell didn't give a damn about her grandson, that's for sure and what he witnessed, just disgusting. Thankfully he was to young to remember it.

[@Marykate465]

“ Joanna and her attitude walked out “ lol Mike can get so savage 😂

[@mellendiamond]

"...It wasn't just Stephen who'd go on to finger his own mother... probably coulda worded that better." 👀 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@FairyGothMotherG]

Some people just don't know how truly blessed they are. I lost both of my young adult son's a few years ago & I will never get to be a grandma to one of their babies. 😭 This case is just so sad on so many levels. I hope that her parents were involved & they get regular visitation, so through them that little one can grow up knowing who his mama really was.😇🙏

[@jlbyler22]

This really hit hard when I read it, and I just want to say that I am so, so sorry for both of your losses. I can't even imagine how horrible it would be to lose a child, let alone two, and the future grandbabies you would have had as well... I'm just so sorry, that is absolutely heartbreaking. Another commenter on here said that they looked it up and Carson is now living happily with his maternal grandparents, and I am so glad for that. Like you said, that little one will know who his momma really was, rather than having his head filled with drama and lies. It made me happy to read that so I wanted to share it with you too. ❤

[@jaf8969]

That is good news. Thank you for sharing. So sad about the young mother.

[@SamBuys-xo8jx]

I have watched this tragic story on other KZbin channels A LOT. I must say this is the best one. Short, to the point and some good sarcasm. Just my sense of humor and I respect the respect shown to the victims.

[@charliebarrow7086]

Oh man, another grandparent involved in a custody battle in a deadly way. This is insane, if she loved her grandson, she couldn't have killed his mom.

[@playboyfan001]

Doubt it was for the kid, she prob just really hated that woman. enough to kill which might lead one to believe that there was some serious bad blood between them and it escalated to this. Heather for sure didn't deserve to be murdered but maybe she could've prevented her own death, who knows.

[@Azriel884]

She viewed as property, nothing more. Someone like her isnt capable of loving another.

[@Emma88178]

@@playboyfan001 What??? No absolutely not. There is nothing she could have done to prevent anything, NONE of that was her fault. You're just straight up victim blaming. That is gross.

[@playboyfan001]

@@Emma88178 nah I don’t think you understood what I said. - Killing your former daughter in law is not something that one plans out on a whim, not someone sane enough to go through the trouble of wearing a disguise and parking their getaway vehicle in a strategic location. - So there must’ve been some seriously hostile interactions between the perpetrator and the victim before all this. Let’s not kid ourselves here, relations between in laws are often times not the greatest. I think it’s fair to speculate that heather and the grandmother Said and or Did things to one another that ultimately led to one planning out a murder on the other. - The grandmother was a functioning member of society but unfortunately for heather she was capable of extreme violence against someone that clearly gave her a reason to flip that crazy switch and commit such a vile act. Did heather DESERVE this, absolutely NOT. But do I think she contributed to her death, yes. She clearly gave her mother in law a reason (or more than 1) to want her dead, even if it was for her own satisfaction, which I think for sure was part of her motive.

[@RuminatingRaptor]

@@playboyfan001 What an absolutely ridiculous comment. Heather isn’t to blame for her murder. 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ You are still blaming the victim in your explanation. She didn’t give her MIL a reason, the MIL was an evil person. Period.

[@eggsngritstn]

This story floored me. The mom is truly crazy. Certifiable. Imagine being that son understanding your mom is a cold-blooded killer because she wanted total control. Ouch.

[@ChloesColdEars111]

Did you say she wanted to look rough? Mission accomplished!!!

[@nicolejttmom6061]

There are so many mother-in -laws like this, and they all want the mothers of their grandkids to end up like poor Heather. I had one and I am thankful to be alive and that the courts prohibit any contact between my kid and her father and grandmother. I am well aware it doesn't always end well.

[@oldsteve4291]

When Steven realises his mother killed his ex and his immediate thought is about his son, that just tore my heart.

[@sweeneytodd011]

True but at least the kid still has one parent who clearly has his priorities right.

[@audreymuzingo933]

His IMMEDIATE thought, yeah. But it sounds like he flip-flopped by the time of the trial. For all we know, he's taking Carson to see his "innocent" Grandma in the pen right now.

[@thisisanaccountalright]

Tbf it sucks but his mom is manipulative as hell, and he's lived with that all his life. Even big life changing events like this, it can be hard to separate entirely from someone like that. It fucks with your brain.

[@katthefantastic]

Same

[@WobblesandBean]

​@@sweeneytodd011 Uh, no. His behavior was totally fake, and he kept flip flopping. I think he knew.

[@Kellibel]

So scary that people like her walk amongst us. Thank goodness she’s locked up for life.

[@averyeml]

The chill way she goes “I didn’t, Steven,” when her son is crying for the loss of the mother of his child and BLAMING HER. Regardless of if she did something or not, regardless if the crime is big or not, if I called my mom in tears and said “I saw a video of a crime and it looks like you” she’d be upset both for me and for herself

[@ultimately-sabrina]

Every single video I wait for the “take care…because I love ya, Mike out.” 😊

[@fireman8995]

Not a single amount of regret. Killing a mother just to never see your grandchild ever again. She's absolutely disgusting

[@danielhartin7680]

She was convicted on zero evidence. This should be a red flag to anyone who cares about the integrity of the judicial system.

[@fireman8995]

@@danielhartin7680 not only did her son believe it but the wig hair and her truck. It's not much but also she's have more then enough motivation to do so. I definitely believe she did it but yeah they definitely didn't have enough on her and probably should have looked for gunpowder residue in the truck

[@michellegallia9361]

@danielhartin7680 I mean there’s the multiple witnesses picking her out, her wig fiber found in her truck, her admitting to doing it to like the entire cell block, and when her own son identified his fake-mustachioed mother from the images leaving the scene?

[@danielhartin7680]

@@fireman8995 I agree she most likely did it, but cases are decided on evidence presented, not emotions. At least that's the way it's supposed to be. This woman, whether she did it or not, has an excellent case for a retrial.

[@TTownTim]

@@danielhartin7680 A jury of her peers said guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Pretty basic stuff.

[@TruecrimeAndcommentary]

This was never about her grandson. If she really loved him she would have put her grandsons love for his mother before her feelings about her. She wanted her grandson to herself. This was a narcissist fulfilling her narcissistic desires.

[@user-gj1me4mf5c]

Why is everyone suddenly a narcissist? Some people are just mean, and that's all there is to it. So many armchair psychologists. 🙄

[@kittykat8177]

@@user-gj1me4mf5c like u

[@TruecrimeAndcommentary]

@@user-gj1me4mf5c To be honest it annoys me aswell how often people use the word “narcissist” when talking about people who commit a crime against others but I think in this case it’s accurate. If the definition of a narcissist includes “a preoccupation with oneself and one's own needs, often at the expense of others” then it fits her perfectly, I think she killed Heather because it meant she could have her grandson to herself. She put her own wishes above her sons and her grandsons and so her motive wasn’t just mean it was narcissistic, meaning the cap fits in this case.

[@maeahem]

@@user-gj1me4mf5cAs someone who did study and work in psychology, yes the overuse of certain terms on the internet has been frustrating. But one can be a narcissist and or have narcissistic tendencies or traits and not be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. So I believe the comment applies here in this instance.

[@melodi996]

@@user-gj1me4mf5c m, nah, there're no "just mean" people, there's always a name to the issue, and as someone with NPD, this woan definitely was losing her power over that kid and his mom's, so she killed t get that control back, no love in that.

[@kinny1847]

The face Mike makes after saying ‘ you are Stephen ‘ is now burnt into my brain for a pick me up if I ever feel down !! ❤😂

[@jplxlabelle1681]

Lol

[@Lovetheducks]

Damn that mom is a savage. She just doesn't give 2 F's

[@demoncorejunior]

yikes, that lady must have been so manipulative in every day life, if she’s there in prison saying she forgives her son but he has to live with…sending his mom to jail

[@woodworkingandepoxy643]

She's got the crazy eyes. I'm surprised this is her first time. Her being so adamant that she could get away with murder makes me wonder if she hasn't killed before

[@danvitty5442]

Yup just awful really people like that can’t be fixed ever

[@eh1702]

Yep. A woman who just happened to find a receipt for jewellery that her son bought on Valentine’s day and “helpfully” gave it to the daughter-in-law ..l who she would know full well didn’t get any.

[@lannah080907]

Narcissistic

[@-xirx-]

​@@eh1702 you noticed that too.

[@buruzn09]

“And HE’s gotta live with that.” Excuse me!?!? Evil, stupid, and smug is a bad combo. This line just blew the top end off of the scale.

[@jeanneganrude8549]

Just what I thought. I hope she sits and stews in her guilt that SHE has to live with. 😡🤬

[@FiestyPatriot]

Old saying is-She’s got a chip on her shoulder. And man she’s not a happy person 😮

[@usmcchrisg]

She projects because she has no self awareness.

[@ginagina9592]

Right?!! And the son taking it back shows he’s got some issues

[@trisha7913]

This lady is a narcissist. She will never feel guilty about it.

[@waterlilies64]

God I love your delivery. The absolute best at injecting humor into these stories without disparaging the victim. ❤

[@TonyAnnechino]

The fact that her own son recognized her immediately, before recanting much later, shows he knew it was her.

[@cdes1776]

The image of her red flip-flop by the car with the evidence marker really captures those horrific final moments. She was probably thinking of her baby boy. :(

[@rastra1321]

😢😢💔💔

[@FiestyPatriot]

🙏❤️🙏

[@eh1702]

She sure didn’t *innocently* give her daughter-in-law literal evidence that her husband was cheating on her.

[@sandrafaith]

My thought exactly!

[@lizabet7702]

Perceptive. She probably always had hate in her heart for her..

[@Chuck_EL]

The sketch photo looked like Stephen But it was his mom wearing a wig and mustache He definitely favors his mom Which means she was wanted to frame her own son for murdering Heather She's fuckin sick

[@KathyHussey063]

Right !! I mean WHERE would she have "just stumbled" onto the receopt (think about that, I'm a mother in law & there's no reason for me to be searching my kids or their partner's wallets, cars, dresser drawers, pants pockets, purse or anything; to be finding HIS receipt from a jewelty purchase). I'm sure her son did not ignorantly just lay it in the open to be found..... so..... The normal thing to do would've been to give it to your son, not draw your daughter in law's atttention to it... So she was snooping & looking for something to help drive a wedge between them & break them up. Butshe didn't think what that would mean and that she only lot more contol of her grandson & her son too. Just an obsessed woman intent on having control over her grown son & grandson too & her daughter in law was in her way.....

[@mommyshark1124]

She wanted to hurt Heather. She wanted to "twist the 🔪."

[@Robin5957]

She missed her calling. She could have made a great hit man. Hitwoman. Clearly no guilt. Got up and walked out of interrogation. Cold as ice.

[@epistuos1250]

This dude tells murder stories and then says he runs with headphones on, completely unaware of his surroundings.... some type of special ✨️

[@toldyaso13]

Stephen's mother: "I'm not going to bash her, I not going to do that" and then she proceeds to bash the hell out of her. What a monster-in-law.

[@madsdee7803]

She also took the jewellery receipt to her to show her because she was trying to help her son out of the relationship by having Heather break up with him. She's a manipulator and her son just rides on her manipulating.

[@mightymouse1005]

You can tell by hear "I'm smarter than you " attitude and posture, she thinks she's better than the cops.she had NO remourse or compassion

[@mightymouse1005]

​@@madsdee7803she's probably controlled her son so long, it's all he knows. She's probably always "just has his best interests at heart "

[@pameversole5886]

Wait a minute…she killed her daughter in law, Heather, because she wasn’t raised with morals?? But she raised the man that was cheating on Heather?? Make it make sense!

[@kristinebailey6554]

Right? I was born in 1957. As the years have gone by, I am astonished at how many people think it's no big deal to take vows and then break them. Disgusting.

[@brenttocci644]

And a killer herself!

[@avgrim7729]

​@@kristinebailey6554It's the norm these days and the divorce rate is like 70%.

[@begladwme]

Good video

[@RosaGlez-ls1oz]

And what about her own "morals", committing murder?

[@johnpendarvis7885]

Wow. Hard to imagine finding out your mother is a murderer.

[@davidandrews5262]

Steven cheated on her. Then his mom killed her. Dang. Thats rough.

[@sandraguthrie276]

My late husband was from Snellville! I always told him I thought that sounds like a Dr. Seuss city! 🤣 Let’s give it a go Mike!!!!

[@jeffstewart3342]

Hahaha

[@13699111]

That's funny!!!

[@jxn1056]

😂😂😂

[@sweeneytodd011]

At first I thought Mike was saying "smellville" so discovering it wa actually Snelville was an improvement for me.

[@eh1702]

In Scotland, “snell” describes the kind of damp cold wind that sucks the warmth out of you.

[@makavelismith]

She makes sure that her grandson grows up without a mother and is all teary-eyed for how everything is going against her? Thats a special brand of narcissism right there.

[@ProPressureWashers]

I've been watching your videos for years...i took a break...and now im back... nothings changed. STRAIGHT BANGERS!

[@jikook7457]

Hypocritical for the murderer to talk about someone else's bad parenting being inherited: HER son cheated on his wife. And, ya know, she killed someone. Smh

[@OregonSingles]

Very disturbed-Grandma was thinking only of stealing her son's son from his only Mom, selfish, disgusting. I'm glad her son snitched her out.

[@apeyoutube7485]

He didn’t though. The way they did it was pretty messed up. Convinced him it was her then made him think he would be charged. He never said it looked just like her. He kept saying it could be in shock and horror. I don’t feel like using a vulnerable traumatic moment like that to say he said it was her definitely was fair at all. His mom was awful but he was clearly a victim too if he didn’t know. To make him feel guilty like he put her away just put him in a place where he can’t accept what she did. He’s too busy feeling guilty that it was such a weak case and what he said put her away for life. They could’ve found more forensic or other evidence instead. Let the guy accept it properly so he’s not in a guilt limbo & can move on.

[@gaaraxnaru]

I just looked it up, if anyone's curious, Carson is living happily with his maternal grandparents. Thank goodness. I don't want him being raised to believe his grandmother is innocent by his coward of a father.

[@jeanneganrude8549]

Thanks for the update! ❤

[@femsff7090]

That must kill Joanna. She did all that and now she'll never see her grandson again. Probably assumed she'd get away with it and knew her son would be too weak to raise the kid on his own so she'd step in and take over.

[@MsSonali1980]

Oh, thank god!

[@ayameisastar]

I can’t believe he thinks his mom is innocent now. What a moron

[@photowarriorfundamentalfre3526]

EXACTLY my thoughts! Thank you for letting us know!

[@waterbitten]

Shout out to the that 1st witness, she was so clear and detailed.

[@lilsuzec]

I live 30 minutes from Snellville. How have I never heard this story. Thank you for covering it, Mike!

[@michaelpipkin9942]

She was so convinced she could get away with it, even when she was caught, it couldn't convince her otherwise.

[@Kyle_Riel]

Tbh, I'm shocked she was convicted. Not a single shred of evidence and witnesses that, in court, wouldn't testify it was her. The suspect being 6 inches taller and 60 pounds heavier. Scary that they can just put you in jail for a "hunch"

[@SUPER_WOLFMOON]

Her son cheated on his wife, she's talking about bad parenting and bad examples. Then she kills the wife? Who is a good parent? Imagine how guilty that ex-husband must feel!

[@HS-oh8xh]

Why you gotta bring up the cheating tho

[@KawaiDoxy]

​@@HS-oh8xh because it's relevant ??

[@twilightgardenspresentatio6384]

All selfish rationalization

[@Flamsterette]

@@HS-oh8xh Why are you defending cheating?

[@ManuelGuzmanPhotography]

​@Flamsterette not defending the cheating, but SUPER odd to focus on that rather than the murder.

[@JSainte17]

It always weirds me out when I hear these stories and they happened on my birthday. I think about where I was and what I was doing while some people were having the worst day of their lives.

[@bobaTJ]

This woman thinks she's a genius, obviously. The ego! What a waste of humanity.

[@ejagger]

Anyone else watching his 1.97M subscriber count, waiting for that 2M rollover? Go Mike, go!

[@chrissieroxba2949]

Almost there! 🎊 🎉

[@RLFinTX]

My cat just subbed! 🙌🏻😽🎉

[@jeanneganrude8549]

He’s such a likeable and talented storyteller 😊

[@ns4725]

Get a life

[@WaffleHouse247]

@@ns4725 get a life? you’re watching the same video as us bud

[@j68715]

My father recently passed, and I dropped my life/career to move home with my mom, who is lost after 60 years of marriage. It's sad, stressful, and beautiful all at once. Thanks for occupying the late-night hours in my childhood room and reminding me that our family is very blessed, Mike!

[@13699111]

Heart warming

[@neworleans1979]

I’m sorry to hear about your father. I truly hope in time you are able to to heal in whatever way that may be for you. You are an amazing child for going to be with your mom. My precious momma passed in 2022 from covid pneumonia-her and my dad together 60 years. My Dad is still completely lost without my beautiful momma. They did everything to get her and were each other’s first for everything. Your story gripped my heart. I’m so happy I’m able to be take care of my Dad-I mean afterall our parents did take care of us so I will do the same for him respectfully. Take care of yourself-sometimes we neglect ourselves being so busy-remember in order to take care of your mom you need to be well. ❤

[@ShakerPro72]

I’m so sorry you lost your dad. Took care of my grandmother for the last two years of her life after my grandfather passed. They were married 66 years and they were apart for only 9 nights in all those years. A few years ago I left my life/career to live with and care for my mother so that she could stay in her home. We lost my father quite a while ago. She passed recently but it was the hardest and best 4 1/2 years of my life. What a blessing. I wouldn’t trade one second. Thank you for doing what you are doing! You won’t regret it. I am sending you and your mom all of my love and prayers.

[@Thetruththatisee]

I'm so sorry for your loss and I can imagine how much pain your mum is in. So great that she's got you ❤️

[@bjbrown]

I lost my father two years ago. Fortunately I have lived next door to my parents for years so we spent many happy afternoons playing Yahtzee and sharing stories, gardening and building things. Dad is gone now and Mom and I continue but we miss him every day. Thanks for teaching me so much, Dad, you have made my life so much better and happier.

[@jdawg3873]

I enjoy your videos very much. I’m legally blind, so I can’t see the video.. however the way you tell the story paints a clear picture for me. Thank you for the great content.. and your super good story telling. ✌🏻

[@skully0078]

Hey Mike, I introduced my Dad to your channel and I'm pretty sure he is binge-watching your stories now. lol

[@13699111]

I'm 72 the same thing happened to me been watching ever since,HA!!!

[@petithibou1891]

Awesome 😊❤

[@amarshall2896]

Tell him to drink every time Mike wears the Polaroid shirt.

[@michellegallia9361]

@amarshall2896 And take a drink every time he says the word “tree” (three) 😂

[@amarshall2896]

@@michellegallia9361 oh you’re trying to get wasted 😂

[@sharongrigg5336]

This woman makes my mother-in-law look like Mary Poppins, what a freak.

[@jessepitt]

I’m pretty sure if my wife and I ever divorced my mother in law would happily kill me. She pretends to like me but she still hasn’t gotten over her daughter choosing me over her (in her crazy ass mind). It’s been 13 years and I have always treated my wife very well.

[@jeanneganrude8549]

@@jessepittThat must be so difficult. I was lucky with all family members from all sides always getting along.

[@jessepitt]

@@jeanneganrude8549 That is fortunate. My family is very nice and loves my wife but her family is very different. They are all drug addicted so they don’t think normally.

[@jessepitt]

@@jeanneganrude8549 You have no idea! It’s a nightmare. You are very fortunate. She is actually separated from her husband right now and living with us🤦🏻

[@user-hq2js9tw2e]

​@@jessepitt Poor guy, that's just awful

[@LackofAmbition]

I love your delivery!

[@catherineflahr6160]

The way she was sprawled over the table in the interrogation room told me a HUGE story about her character! I read that as 'I'm too smart for you detectives!' I could have picked her out in the black of night!

[@scorpiokhaleesi]

It’s wild how nonchalant and arrogant she was in the initial interview. “Maybe go get his glasses” then she’s all weepy in the jail house interview.

[@mallorycannon3011]

The utter irony of her in this jailhouse interview ! When they asked are you good with your son now? And her playing the victim like she does and saying am I hurt? Yes I'm hurt but I would have done the same. When in reality her son and grandson are the victims of her horrible crimes. 😠

[@Clymers1984]

@The Chapter Mike I love how you unpack these stories!! I’m so proud of you!! ♥️🫶🏼🙏🏼

[@setaside2]

That "dear" as she said "I did not, dear" was arctic.

[@-xirx-]

"When you get your little blood spots or whatever, you call me" (rap the table twice and walk out) - that's one cold hearted b_ 😱

[@Emma88178]

I know plenty in in-laws (that includes father-in-laws) that are controlling, mean and crazy to their daughter/son-in-laws. I don't understand it.

[@thyslop1737]

Wow! Her responses were totally cold blooded.

[@michaelfuseau5391]

her police sketch looks like Nicole Kidman in Destroyer. Great craic and a show that keeps getting better, Mike! thanks!

[@Harmonictuba23]

"As helpful as a hole in the head" in a headshot case is diabolical behavior, lol

[@lucibee1163]

I am about to watch this with tears streaming down my face as I found out today my very close friend NATE passed away. He lived in USA I live in England. We met through this channel+became very close friends. Something NEITHER of us had ever done before..meet someone through ..what social media?Jesus it took us months to work out how to swap emails without the whole comment section knowing. We just did it in the end as we must have been annoying people chatting sbout being single parents.etc I will miss him so v much.😢 Thank you for introducing us though Mike. He has two boys+2grandkids.a boy+a girl. I'm 53..he was younger than me not even 50. Rest in peace MY N. I promise to keep in touch with the boys+grandkids. Hope they come to England one day +I will look after them. Miss you mate. Luci Bee.❤

[@geegstar]

@lucibee1163 I am SO sorry! Its difficult to lose someone special to you.😥

[@lucibee1163]

​@@geegstarthankyou for your kind words. I've lost so many friends in my life. I lost my partner 9years ago.cancer.then my Dad 5months later.cancer too. Nathan my lovely American friend and I had the most amazing bond.we just couldn't believe it ourselves.met in a comment section on That Chapter😊we did leave comments for Mike telling him he replied a couple of times saying how pleased he was. When we first spoke on the phone it was hilarious 'you sound so ENGLISH " and he sounded so American 😅 What a pair of nanas😊he loved sayings like that.must be very British x

[@irishhoopers6899]

Hugs ❤ that's very hard

[@lucibee1163]

@@irishhoopers6899 I appreciate the hugs mate,virtual hugs,much needed,thank you. Are you Irish.?

[@lucibee1163]

I reckon Nate will be smiling at these comments 20likes too!that's loads for me! Nate+I used to be real puzzled how some comments could get thousands of likes.why is that?someone said something about bots, we gave up trying to understand at that point! Took us long enough to work out how to exchange email addresses! The language differences gave us many laughs,his lovely son got hit by a semi,way before I knew him.had to learn to walk again it was pretty horrific ,but I said to Nate one day'what IS a semi...cos in England a semi has a whole other meaning!Well when he sussed out what it means in England he roared with laughter.he told his mom+dad too,they sent me a video of them all laughing, Nate said " the image of my son getting hit by a semi..English style semi ,it wouldn't have caused as much pain + damage 🤭

[@MrsFrankSimmons]

Thankyouplease for your dedication to your online presentation, I appreciate your kindness in providing content like this video of yours xx

[@josephfelts6560]

Thanks, Mike, for the video. It's almost similar to the case of the Strouts, you did last time, with a divorce in the background, and a grandparent said to have been involved in the killing of the grandchild's parent. When you have circumstances pushing things to such an extreme, you have to wonder about the culprit's mentality. You'd think a divorce, and custody fight, would end amicably as the court can do, and all parties move on. Seems Steven's mum is something of a manipulator, as if the child was hers. Can bet Heather was having none of it, and they locked horns, so Joanna went spare. Absolutely superb that the truck driver remembered distinctly the particulars of the F150, as much as Joanna planned to make it as ordinary as possible. She forgot one detail, and that linked her well to the murder scene. I thought the disguise was good, because I would have thought it was a man, but linking Joanna to the scene, and then having her son come in and verify it was she......I mean, he should know. And the callousness of it all. Joanna appears to be psychologically unstable to have committed the act. Her grandchild has no mother, and loses out on seeing his grandmother for a long while, unless he chooses to visit (I doubt it). He must be like in his teens now, hopefully he and his father are good.

[@DystopianUtopia8]

What a gross liar. Murderer thought she could outsmart the system. She's clearly delusional. She forgot you need to be rich to get away with crimes.

[@sweeneytodd011]

You're absolutely right Tbh if she had the money to pay for a better defence she would have walked. I do believe she was guilty but technically the case against her was very weak. Her defence attorney must've have been very poor.

[@PenskePC17]

You don't need to be rich, you need to not use your personal vehicle to off someone in a target parking lot😂. The best lawyers on earth wont help in that situation 99% of the time

[@sweeneytodd011]

@PenskePC17 they didn't ID the plate though did they? Just the make n model? I know it's still a major f up but they found nothing definite from her car, the single fiber that may have been from a wig and a receipt but they didn't have the actual wig, no weapon, no confirmed id's from witnesses, no dna, no blood and the artist impression looked like a ten year old drew it. It was all circumstantial. A good lawyer would have run rings round that case imo.

[@johndavis9432]

Alex Murdaugh is rich though and he didn't get away with it.He was convicted and got life without parole.

[@revolution2405]

​@@sweeneytodd011I agree with you. There was enough reasonable doubt that even an average lawyer could have gotten her off. I don't care if she did it or not. But our judicial system has gone to shit. A prosecutor should have looked at the evidence they had and never even brought it to trial.

[@jolenewitzel7919]

The saddest part of this story is that she got her wish. The baby wouldn't be raised by his mom.

[@myunknownland9272]

But by her parents. 🎉

[@lindasue263]

Hey Mike! The sound of your voice and your storytelling brightens my day! 😊

[@user-us5pv8zw3z]

When my son was born, my mother- in-law burst into the delivery room and shouted, “Give me my baby!” I looked at my husband and said, “Deal with this. Now!” She didn’t stop though. She’d just show up at all hours and walk right in. She didn’t think I knew what I was doing. She was right, but I learned like every new mother. She’s 94 now and still kicking.

[@glorygloryholeallelujah]

I hope that poor little dude was given lots of therapy and is able to grow up to live a full and happy life. 💔

[@kittykat8177]

therapy, lol

[@AlejandroSaenz-us9zt]

I'm sorry to say but I don't think he will ever remember any of this

[@glorygloryholeallelujah]

@@AlejandroSaenz-us9zt I don’t think that counts as a “sorry to say”…I 100% hope he doesn’t remember the actual event! However, that doesn’t prevent him from living with the aftermath. Growing up without a mother-knowing that your grandmother murdered her right in front of you. That can definitely mess a person up, if they aren’t helped coming to terms with it (the earlier/younger they learn to process and deal with it, the better).

[@patriciadonoho2199]

@@glorygloryholeallelujah This! Hopefully he don’t recall the actual event, but you know how messed up it could leave him in his mind. My son briefly dated a girl in HS whose dad did murder her mom and suicide himself….even with years of counseling she was all kinds of messed up. It was sad. People who do these horrific things are Only thinking of Themselves, not the Innocent left behind. 💙

[@glorygloryholeallelujah]

@@patriciadonoho2199 oh how terrible!-that poor girl!😞 I hope she eventually found a healthy way to cope with it and was able to move forward in her life. But you’re 100% correct about it being “all about themselves”! It’s basically the most disgustingly selfish act a person could ever commit -and it’s even more repulsive when the perpetrator tries to claim *”I just wanted to kill that person in order to help my kid/grandkid/niece/nephew/etc!”* Like…. What?! Absolutely ridiculous.

[@Reach41]

“More targets than just the store.” I’m dying.

[@hannahshark8080]

😬

[@user-ht9go4yg7w]

really, that's the line that did it for you? you must be simple minded to be so easily entertained.

[@Reach41]

@@user-ht9go4yg7w Thank you for caring.

[@tessaelto1472]

@@user-ht9go4yg7wfr. people harp on That Chapter being "so respectful towards victims" yet he makes unfunny jokes at the victims expense in every single video.

[@RachelD386]

😕

[@deadazzz]

Crazy watching your channel go from a few hundred thousand subs to almost 2 million. Nice work Mike!

[@ianmiller8653]

Hey Mike love the vids best Narrator ever thnx I enjoy watching all of your videos n look forward to all the new vids soon as u upload them keep it up man ...

[@tiffanypayne2086]

Shes such a narcissist. She even sounds guilty, no emotion for the dead woman

[@user-gj1me4mf5c]

Not everyone is a narcissist. 🙄 Some people are just mean and that's it.

[@kittykat8177]

@@user-gj1me4mf5c oh my God, shut up, both of ya'll

[@maeahem]

@@user-gj1me4mf5c some people are narcissists though. Not everyone, but she just might be one of them. It’s not a diagnosis, just a trait.

[@badgalbinka]

@@user-gj1me4mf5cas someone with a narcissist mom, diagnosed npd, this is some shit she would do lmao

[@bleujay8785]

@@user-gj1me4mf5c I know that diagnosis gets thrown around a lot, But I can tell you, just her body language alone screams Narcissist. The way she was able to walk away from killing her grandchild’s mother in cold blood while he sit helplessly in a hot car, so unbothered. She condemned her daughter in law for being a bad parent, when she is the definition. Sick 🤢

[@susanmiltiades8642]

I'm a longtime fan, born and raised in Snellvile back when it was actually a small town, and the slogan was, "Everybody's Somebody in Snellville!" I had a sweet t-shirt with this on it.

[@nononoisaidnope]

Why does this sound like Dr. Seuss made that slogan

[@elenawilliams32]

​@@nononoisaidnopeHahaha 😂 Yes, absolutely. Cheers for making me laugh all the way down here in Australia. 🇦🇺😂

[@nononoisaidnope]

@@elenawilliams32 haha no prob bob! All the way from Tx!

[@usmanshahid8277]

I’m from snellville too!

[@franceslee766]

Thank goodness for the custom black trim on that f150 bahahaha

[@amandadelaney4757]

Probably could’ve worded that better… love finding a kindred spirit with a teenagers mind! 😂

[@audreymuzingo933]

DANG IT I wish Stephen didn't flip-flop on believing his mom's denial in the end! That was the one little glimmer of goodness in this, that wee Carson could at least grow up with a dad who wouldn't support his slain mama's killer, even if the killer was his own mama.

[@MsSonali1980]

He's a mama's boy. I can only imagine how much she inserted herself in that marriage and all the unheard pleading of the wife to the husband to stand up against it. That jewellery receipt, she 100% knew what she was doing. I really hope that he will see the light someday. For his son and himself.

[@belleslettres354]

@@MsSonali1980this! 💯💯

[@audreymuzingo933]

@@MsSonali1980 Yes you can only imagine, because nothing in this video suggested that he regularly allowed her to dominate him while he was married to Heather. We've surely all seen people like that, but maybe hold back on the projection.

[@deadinthewater218]

Steven is trash too how is everyone backing that coward???

[@elenawilliams32]

Someone else posted an update that Carson is being raised by his maternal grandparents now. Thank goodness.

[@Carladc1956]

She was cocky and cold during those police interviews when she thought she could bluff her way out of it. She had a complete attitude change once she was convicted and behind bars. Poor baby.

[@leslieannvanhumbeck7630]

Thanks, Mike, for saying you love me. Love from Vancouver, Canada.

[@nicolebabl2783]

I really needed to hear that I'm loved. Thank you ❤ As always I love your videos

[@Ann71987]

Ohhh this southern grandmother is happy now since good 'Ole Mike has another AMAZING video ❤🎉

[@ThePizzaGoblin]

I like your style, Ann. Rock on 🤘

[@aroseinwinter7719]

Southern grandma. So…. A big dog snoring, smell of apple pie, people who dont call first but just come over to say Hi, orangy sunsets. Flowers on the table. Just guessing. X from the netherlands

[@jeffstewart3342]

Hey grandma, God bless you.❤

[@13699111]

Michigan grandfather here southern ladies are the best!!! ❤

[@corvidsRcool]

Same! Can't imagine doing something so horendous and traumatic in front of my grandaughter.

[@gr8fuldeb699]

The police didnt dangle any promise to steven. We saw them talking to him. He said it looked like his mom right away himself.

[@gaaraxnaru]

She's crazy and delusional, of course, she's just gonna go with any narrative that makes her and her family look like the victims. Even when there's video evidence on both her and her son.

[@lisaholler5460]

So wierd, I lived in Lawrenceville (you can see it just north-east of Snellville on the map) for 19 years. I never heard this story 🤔 And this was the Target I shopped at.

[@almcdonald8676]

That’s got to be one of the shakier convictions you’ve covered. A good defence lawyer would have made mincemeat of the prosecution case

[@Trgic2Mgic]

Born and raised in Snellville. I remember this story very well. Also, Snellville natives know the slogan of the city " Everybody is somebody in Snellville" thanks for putting Smellville on the map. Sadly it comes at the price of this terrible woman.

[@Trenchcoat3]

No offense, but sounds like something straight out of Dr Seuss 😅

[@WeDoRecover216]

@@Trenchcoat3100% agreed 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 lmmfao flawless victory

[@supposedhumanmars]

What a wild ride! It takes a truly disturbed person to kill their ex daughter in law in front of a child...her own grandchild. Wow.

[@MiamiCocaine]

“That’s her, isn’t it” “Omg” “Is that your momma?” “Holy cow” “That’s your mom?” “Omg” 😂

[@gg037]

As an Australian who only understands the metric system.. thankyou for specifying the degrees in Celsius. 🤣

[@franpag2611]

As soon as you said 'he lives with his mother' (Stephen), ugh I knew it!

[@smoothsailin9351]

#1 youtube channel ever!! I remember back when you hit 100k I was so stoked for you, now look atcha pal! pushing 2M for a reason!

[@JazzyJADAxxx]

He bought most of those subs

[@nixcudmore4252]

​@JazzyJADAxxx how does that work?

[@belladamex767]

​@JazzyJADAxxx I've watched his channel slowly grow over the last few years and the view ratio makes sense. Why would you say that?

[@smoothsailin9351]

@@belladamex767 same. we wont stand for this Jazz *shakes fist* are you trying to get your own episode LOL

[@barbaramiller7632]

That poor child, as the dad said, he's going to have a fcuked up life with no mum and a grandmother who killed her! Why are people so stupid!!!

[@albagubrath9073]

The way she pointed out that the suspect was taller & heavier 🤔 Part of her 'genius' plan must've been heels & extra layers of clothes!

[@WeAreAwakeTV]

I discovered this channel last week. I haven't stopped watching since almost all videos...excellent content!!!

[@TheJurnalyst]

Welcome

[@vickyfellers7046]

Oh, to be new here again! Lol To have these vids to watch and not Ave to wait for new ones! Enjoy!

[@jeanneganrude8549]

I’ve never seen a video of Mikes that wasn’t so well worth watching ~

[@alexs6770]

Great video. I'm always surprised how much hurt and pain people can cause.

[@noraa1991]

For everyone great in the world there’s always someone just as evil

[@kittykat8177]

not me, not any more