The Disturbing Lanz Brothers Case

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Жыл бұрын

When Austin Lanz developed an unhealthy obsession with the next door neighbours, this would last months and ultimately end at the Pentagon. His younger brother, Matthew Lanz, then decided to get revenge. However, a very different family now lived next door.
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@user-gy9ec6nk3e
@user-gy9ec6nk3e 2 ай бұрын
This is my cousin and her husband. This was horrific and heartbreaking for our family. Thank you for actually doing your research before making this. So many have made videos that are so off. The details are not even close. I believe if you are going to try and go over a case then you need to know what you are talking about. This has been the most honest and correct video that I have seen so far. We are still waiting on justice to this day. Please everyone pray that we get our justice for our family soon.
@iriedance70
@iriedance70 Ай бұрын
I'm so sorry and my heart goes out to you and your family. There are too many people that commit heinous crimes that needed help. Our society doesn't really care about the mentally ill like they should.
@Obsessed_With_Corgis
@Obsessed_With_Corgis 27 күн бұрын
I hope he’s convicted and put away for good. I’ve been following this case since it happened as I was living in East Cobb at the time. When I moved to Cartersville shortly thereafter; this case was the reason I installed a whole-house security system. I learned for myself just a year later how terrifying neighbors can suddenly be when my own next door neighbor suddenly lost it. He randomly came home with a pit bull one day which he tied up in *our* yard. My boyfriend went to ask him to please take his dog inside or at least to his own yard, and he mumbled back nonsense (but he did take the dog in so we carried on back to usual). Hours later he shot up his workplace, murdering his supervisor, then ran his truck *through* a strip mall, before ending his own life once surrounded by police. We didn’t find out about it until the next day since he worked all the way up in Chattanooga, TN, but I frequently think about how luckily we were not to have become victims ourselves when we approached him about his dog literally right before he went on his rampage. I mention all this to say how sorry I am that your cousin and her husband were not so lucky. It could happen to anyone- these monsters need to be put away for good, and hopefully in the near future we can find ways to find them and force them into inpatient treatment *before* things like this happen.
@tinas1653
@tinas1653 15 күн бұрын
🙏❤️🙏
@user-us5pv8zw3z
@user-us5pv8zw3z 9 күн бұрын
Oh my God, I’m so sorry for your loss. This is devastating. I will pray that your family receives justice . God Bless.🙏
@amberspaulding
@amberspaulding 4 күн бұрын
That means I can mention to you that their son is the cutest baby I've ever seen. That's what I thought, from that first picture. It's amazing that living people now emerge from these tragedies, and speak in real time. Very sorry about it.
@riverjbleu
@riverjbleu Жыл бұрын
Austin being let out of jail after being seen on camera breaking into his neighbors house and literally searching for him with the intent of killing him.. after months of documented stalking is absolutely insane
@hitleractually8180
@hitleractually8180 Жыл бұрын
You can't prove intent in that scenario
@SlimeBlueMS
@SlimeBlueMS Жыл бұрын
I just had a homeless crack head living (and hiding) in my house for a day and a half until I caught them red-handed. Police came and IMMEDIATELY released them. Apparently, they didn't commit any crimes. Didn't steal anything, didn't hurt anyone. Free to go
@gordonramsdale
@gordonramsdale Жыл бұрын
@@SlimeBlueMS but it’s obvious in this scenario that he was a danger to society. Also, I’m pretty sure it’s a crime to break in and trespass
@user-ds7us7zy1g
@user-ds7us7zy1g Жыл бұрын
​@@SlimeBlueMS , That's ridiculous that the police didn't charge them with B&E. I unfortunately live by addicts. I haven't had many problems with them since I walked them off my property at gun point. I told them I have absolutely no problem shooting them and apparently their families don't want them either( but who cam blame them). They didn't call the police as they had just made a drug deal and obviously didn't want to have the drugs found and they wouldn't be able to use them.
@derp8575
@derp8575 Жыл бұрын
​@@SlimeBlueMS Crime is now legal. Police and judges are complicit.
@M.S.44.44
@M.S.44.44 Жыл бұрын
As a police officer myself, I HIGHLY recommend when anyone buys a home, moves into an apartment, etc., conduct an open records check within the city and county (both of them) referencing any in-house issues or history from that home, and this will contain Police, Fire, EMS, and Federal Agencies (for ex, if the FBI conducted a raid at 123 Main St, they usually enlist the help of local PD but if they don’t, they still put in a call for service in the event neighbors call in a break in or whatnot at that location, so there’s always a record of it). Use this information when choosing a new home. I’m not judging or Monday Morning Quarterbacking this lovely family who were senselessly taken from us and their loved ones. I’m only telling you all to help prevent (or try to) this from happening again. People only know what they know. Shame on their realtor for not disclosing that, as most states have a requirement for realtors to disclose those types of things. Hell, realtors in several states HAVE to inform people if the property for sale is reported haunted 👻 Regardless, my ❤ and 🙏 go out to the family and friends of this lovely couple. I’m so sorry for their loss.
@olive6940
@olive6940 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this information!
@nopenope9118
@nopenope9118 Жыл бұрын
I’m starting the process of buying my first home and my greatest fear is that the neighbors will be crazy. Thanks for the info, I’ll definitely put it to use.
@janillrodriguez8030
@janillrodriguez8030 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@M.S.44.44
@M.S.44.44 Жыл бұрын
Thank you all for your replies and signs of appreciation. I just want you to know I don’t like posting I’m a police officer, esp on crime videos, only bc: a) how cliché, right?, and b) I don’t want to come across as a “know-it-all”. But my job and my duty is to keep people safe and with that being said and solely based on the oath I took (which I take very seriously), I feel it’s imperative for me to provide information that will help others in the event they need it or if the information is not “common knowledge” and I felt this met that category. Thank you all for being the wonderful people you are, and continue to stay safe in a VERY unsafe world. Let’s try to love each other a little more and use our energy towards positive things. Much love to all 💛❤️
@marie_84
@marie_84 Жыл бұрын
​@@nopenope9118 .....& their biggest fear is, that u are the crazy new neighbor! 😏😏😋😂😂🤣🤣😎
@cstrang2010
@cstrang2010 Жыл бұрын
The exchange between the officer and Lanz at the stairs was scarier and more intense than any horror movie I've seen in the past 20 years.
@I_am_a_cat_
@I_am_a_cat_ Жыл бұрын
For real that was creepy af. If I was that officer I woulda had my gun pointed at him the entire time
@babybluecheeks
@babybluecheeks Жыл бұрын
When he said, "Are you scared?" I thought, please have your guns out officers. This is just another reason why mental health needs to be taken way more seriously.
@ineffablemars
@ineffablemars Жыл бұрын
"Are you scared to come up?" Nope. I'm already out the door halfway down the street 😂
@bluceree7312
@bluceree7312 Жыл бұрын
If it was I would have never stayed at the foot of the stairs like that but rather towards the middle of that room/kitchen, and would've asked him to come down with his hands up, and would have had my taser out, and would have asked my partner to have his/her taser/gun out also. Maybe he was a rookie or something.
@babybluecheeks
@babybluecheeks Жыл бұрын
@@megatherion2695 what?
@VickyShawcooksalot
@VickyShawcooksalot Жыл бұрын
Again PARENTS! IF YOUR CHILD IS IN NEED OF MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT PLEASE GET THEM HELP! This is from a mother that immediately got her son the help he needed. I'm not talking out of ignorance. I'm saying if you love your child you shouldn't pretend like it's not an issue.
@tessaducek5601
@tessaducek5601 Жыл бұрын
That sure gets thrown around a lot of late. Its growing mold.
@vivh18
@vivh18 Жыл бұрын
Too many of these stories have friends and family talking about all the red flags AFTER something goes horribly wrong.
@beevie4081
@beevie4081 Жыл бұрын
Trouble is they weren't children anymore. I'm not too well acquainted with the rules, but I assume parents cannot force their adult children into treatment.
@ang_ro
@ang_ro Жыл бұрын
​@@beevie4081 If they are making threats or otherwise apparently psychologically disturbed they can be detained on a psych hold and get evaluated, at minimum
@cyn37211
@cyn37211 Жыл бұрын
My 2nd child had a lot of difficulties, and I took him to different therapists, including 2 nationally accredited (at the time) treatment centers for children. Both did extensive interviews, and concluded I was paranoid. Later my son was diagnosed as bipolar, and had been using pot for years. He later told me it’s easy to lie to therapists, and he had, at the age of 11, been able to manipulate the counselors to believe there was nothing wrong with him. He later sought treatment on his own, and today is married with a family of his own.
@sandrafaith
@sandrafaith Жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for the guy (Phillip?) who sold the house that the Hicks couple was murdered in-it was fairly reasonable for him to assume that once he was gone, the harassment would stop. He must feel incredibly guilty, poor guy. I'm glad the stabbed officer pulled through. So sorry for Officer Gonzales's family, and I hope the orphaned kiddo is doing OK now. 😢
@belladonnahigh9206
@belladonnahigh9206 Жыл бұрын
Well, he wasn't exactly wrong about the government spying on him, because the government indeed does spy on its own citizens. The planes the police allegedly sent, he was talking about, could have been drones, used for surveillance - after all no one knew there was a drone flying above in Rittenhouse case until the trial started. They could have sent one, just to make sure and see how he acts and he by chance detected them. Of course the more likely scenario is he was seeing things. His obsession with the family though is a total mystery to me, probably thought they were agents or something in his damaged mind (thanks to one guy who once decided lead in gasoline would be a good idea in the early 1900s, which created such diseases in the first place, and it goes on generation after generation to this day). Of course I don't think the government gave him the time of the day, ever, they have powerful players to invigilate for their own political benefits. The brother could simply feel pressure from society, was mad and sad at the same time. Maybe something was destroyed in his life and he blamed the neighbor. He was on a suecide mission after he killed said neighbors. Or he was simply as effed up as his brother, but what's weird, normally schizos don't obsess over the same thing. The trial will reveal everything, so buckle up, you're gonna wait some time.
@blakeley38
@blakeley38 Жыл бұрын
The whole situation is horrible for everyone involved but imagine the parents having not 1 but 2 psychopaths
@belladonnahigh9206
@belladonnahigh9206 Жыл бұрын
@@blakeley38 thank the guy, who put lead in gas in the early 1900s, forever creating new physical and mental diseases. Veritasium has a video on it.
@NikkiC777
@NikkiC777 Жыл бұрын
He had no way of knowing what would happen. It is not like he could have just kept the house, and kept paying taxes on a house he couldn't live in. The whole situation should have been handled differently by the courts, and family, in my opinion anyway. The old neighbors did everything they could do really. They shouldn't feel any guilt. It must have been awful to buy such a beautiful house and then the neighbor is a violent, mentally ill, and unstable man, who won't get help, and actually wants to start issues.
@JME1186
@JME1186 Жыл бұрын
@@blakeley38 can’t be all nature, which means nurture had something to do with it. I’m not sure why we’d feel bad for parents who went 0 for 2 in terms raising non-murderous human beings. Gets no pats on the back from me that’s for sure
@caittails
@caittails 11 ай бұрын
The fact that the officer took the time to say “Hey puppy” tells me everything I need to know about him. 😂❤
@TheRealNova99
@TheRealNova99 Жыл бұрын
Love how, in the midst of what might turn out to be a crime scene involving a psycho, the officer takes a second to greet the dog. It's just heartwarming.
@pizzlerot2730
@pizzlerot2730 Жыл бұрын
Tbf, it was probably more to just acknowledge to the dog that he isn't a threat. Dogs in general tend to respond with suspicion and hostility to people who carry themselves in an official or commanding manner, especially if they're in a uniform of some kind. I'd imagine the first thing on any cop's mind when they see a dog is, "this is a potential threat," just because of how dogs tend to respond to them and how they're used by criminals. I was actually surprised that the dog responded so kindly with all the tension that must have been in the air and the cop walking up so quickly, though a lot of that is probably because of how the owner acted towards him, and also just being a typical goobery black lab ❤️ (Just to be clear, no hate on dogs at all, I'm a veterinarian so just trying to look at it from the POV of animal behavior)
@notpub
@notpub 8 ай бұрын
I think the wag says it all, like: "Man, tg ur here! There is a gd psycho upstairs and we b scared! I'd have my gun pulled on this one, Boss. Don't worry, I has got yer back."🐶
@cherylcampbell9369
@cherylcampbell9369 Жыл бұрын
Your use of real footage, including interrogations, news reports, body/dash cam footage, 911 calls, etc is what keeps me watching. Other crime channels use stupid, meaningless, incredibly distracting stock images, which completely dilutes any impact or credibility. And yes, your winning personality and generous wit doesn't hurt, that's for sure!!
@chrischriskidnicky6088
@chrischriskidnicky6088 Жыл бұрын
They use that same still image of the “police” sign over the door
@chrischriskidnicky6088
@chrischriskidnicky6088 Жыл бұрын
If only Big Boss Man were still alive,all this could have been prevented
@TeaganHarper-ib3yu
@TeaganHarper-ib3yu Жыл бұрын
Especially regards to his videos involving life insurance policies 😂😂 That will always be one of my favourite perks of watching Mikes content
@mags365
@mags365 Жыл бұрын
Agreed!!
@meeganmisha6009
@meeganmisha6009 Жыл бұрын
Omg yea!! Make an effort ppl! I unsubscribed from most of them
@AmonarayIsalay
@AmonarayIsalay Жыл бұрын
These two brothers are as scary as you can get. What the hell with the parents? Did they notice their sons are crazy af?
@shitneyb5562
@shitneyb5562 Жыл бұрын
When youre in it, crazy is remarkably normal 😕
@Unfluencer
@Unfluencer Жыл бұрын
parents were too worried about their image
@tillitsdone
@tillitsdone Жыл бұрын
@@Unfluencer Huh? The parents told the police they had suspicions about their own son. That's not being worried about their image.
@corvidsRcool
@corvidsRcool Жыл бұрын
Usually, I get annoyed when people jump to blaming parents or assuming motives for parents not intervening, but in this case...DAMN. The first time the police got involved with the first son, that's when they should have stepped up and got him help. Sometimes it takes multiple attempts. But the thing you don't do as the parent of a mentally ill child is ignore it and hope it goes away. I have some experience with this and it's a long hard expensive road, but that's not a poor neighborhood. They had the resources.
@kathduncan9618
@kathduncan9618 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Parents should've had both the crazies locked up years before. Instead they let their demented offspring loose on the neighbourhood.
@slam5798
@slam5798 Жыл бұрын
Him trying to lure the cop upstairs gave me chills.
@mattdavison284
@mattdavison284 Жыл бұрын
The part when you described the creepy look this kid gave the neighbors when they’d drive by, and it immediately cuts to that picture of you.. I literally spit out my drink lmao
@Anisky123
@Anisky123 Жыл бұрын
Ikr?
@MH-ti4vm
@MH-ti4vm 11 ай бұрын
Yea I loved the creepy look face - hilarious!
@MysteryWillow.2013
@MysteryWillow.2013 10 ай бұрын
I must have re-watched that part 3x's lol
@solesister9873
@solesister9873 Жыл бұрын
That scene with the officer waiting by a dark stairway trying to coax the dude out and he says back “I think your’e gonna have to come up” had me shook! God bless law enforcement officers- I would have straight pissed myself.
@Jana-ns5sg
@Jana-ns5sg Жыл бұрын
Yeah right? 😳
@SugarandSarcasm
@SugarandSarcasm Жыл бұрын
Would have been ready with the taser/gun when he said that, definitely.
@hannahpugh469
@hannahpugh469 Жыл бұрын
100000 percent 😮
@ElleW18
@ElleW18 Жыл бұрын
“Are you afraid to come up?” was creepy as hell
@DamnedSilly
@DamnedSilly Жыл бұрын
Really? To me it didn't sound spooky so much as childish. Clearly the thought process of someone who never encountered the 'else' part of 'or else.'
@kittyroars8758
@kittyroars8758 Жыл бұрын
Let's not forget through all of this, a little baby lost both parents 😢
@danyellejones2799
@danyellejones2799 Жыл бұрын
That part 🎯
@sydniiwashington9304
@sydniiwashington9304 Жыл бұрын
What a very inappropriate and untrue thing to say
@williamsweeney3215
@williamsweeney3215 Жыл бұрын
@@MarsVoltaire that is disgusting.
@megatherion2695
@megatherion2695 Жыл бұрын
Faurted
@sergiopiece
@sergiopiece Жыл бұрын
I knew the parents I went to school with them and I feel so bad for the boy
@callieellison2350
@callieellison2350 Жыл бұрын
Amber and I were friends in Elementary school. We also lived in the same neighborhood as children. She was so kind. This should have never happened. I was wondering when a true crime KZbinr would come out with an episode on this and I was nervous to watch this episode.
@ateddy10
@ateddy10 Жыл бұрын
I’ve lived in the neighborhood where this happened for almost 4 years now. It was absolutely insane to watch everything unfold. It’s usually a pretty safe and quiet area.
@derek04151
@derek04151 Жыл бұрын
What happened with the parents of these 2 monsters ?
@MJ-fj9yv
@MJ-fj9yv Жыл бұрын
@@derek04151yeah where did those monsters go?
@LordCommanderSpaceAlligator
@LordCommanderSpaceAlligator Жыл бұрын
Tad lol
@ateddy10
@ateddy10 11 ай бұрын
@@derek04151 absolutely nothing
@wholethedogsout880
@wholethedogsout880 9 ай бұрын
that neighborhood is cursed
@beethimbles8801
@beethimbles8801 Жыл бұрын
Mike trying his hardest to give a ‘dirty look’ when he’s the sweetest boy is almost hilarious!
@PepeDeezNutz
@PepeDeezNutz Жыл бұрын
He’s a Nancy boy
@andyh9030
@andyh9030 Жыл бұрын
​@@kylem3295 why are you on this channel then? Are you one of the people you speak of too, or you just here to give your unwanted opinions in the comment section?
@mags365
@mags365 Жыл бұрын
Totally hilarious!! Mike is cool. I'd have drinks with him! Lmk if you're ever in l.a.!
@beethimbles8801
@beethimbles8801 Жыл бұрын
@@kylem3295 wow you make a lot of assumptions about me. I have worked in the criminal justice sector with murderers, s*eoffenders, violent offenders, female serial killers & child trafficking cases all my career. Some of cases on this channel, pale into comparison besides some of the horrific cases I have dealt with. And it’s rather different when you’re face to face with the actual evidence, victims, perpetrators. This is a busman’s holiday for me. I will give you one answer. The ‘need’ it satisfies in me, is pretty simple. To keep the public safe. To put and keep the killers in prison. And to make sure our children have as little risk to them that is possible. Happy? Or are there anymore assumptions you’d like to make?
@GenericUsername501
@GenericUsername501 Жыл бұрын
@@kylem3295 L take
@m.y.o.b.724
@m.y.o.b.724 Жыл бұрын
The officer who asked Matthew to come downstairs should've called for back-up, or at least made him come down with his hands up in the air. So many bad vibes right there. Condolences to all the families and friends of of the murder victims.
@wendigo1919
@wendigo1919 Жыл бұрын
And he was situated so close to the very bottom of the stairs as well as Matthew was descending, but hindsight is 20/20, I guess. Terrifying..
@neighborhoodman323
@neighborhoodman323 Жыл бұрын
@@wendigo1919 yea hindsight is 20/20 but that cop is bold for hanging around after Matthew challenged him saying stuff like “Are you scared?” Major red flag 🚩🚩
@nixthelatter
@nixthelatter Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, but it did show secondary bodycam footage for a split second, so I think there was atleast one other officer in there with him. I would've had a shield brought in. Dude sounded ominous af asking the cop to come up
@maximustrump
@maximustrump Жыл бұрын
These one man stuff is very dangerous always need another set hands eyes
@Eswarramesh2428
@Eswarramesh2428 Жыл бұрын
and this is what characters in horror movies do- no backup
@m4g3osrs10
@m4g3osrs10 Жыл бұрын
I just want to bring the utmost attention to the fact that a police officer let a dog "charge" at him and not only acknowledged the dogs presence, but didn't immediately draw his weapon and kill it like the vast majority of police officers would. What an exceptional human being!
@user-oe1mb9hu9i
@user-oe1mb9hu9i Ай бұрын
There is a difference in living in the middle of Dallas or the Bronx where everything is concrete 20 stories high minimum and being a police officer in a nice housing estate area. It was also pretty obvious that this dog was pleased to see the officer and not attacking hm.
@watchtower0988
@watchtower0988 Жыл бұрын
that cop is chill af during that conversation at the stairs. "youve been downstairs before haven't ya?" lol. I wouldve been freaking the heck out. Id never make it as a cop, i swear.
@Nugget10026
@Nugget10026 Жыл бұрын
I know right. That was creepy as to watch. I did like how the cop was a bit smart ass back about it, & wasn't fooled.
@humancapitalist
@humancapitalist 16 күн бұрын
I think over time you get desensitized to the fact you're possibly facing life/death danger every day, as it is ultimately work/a job. Also, given the area, how chill the homeowners were, and that the officer appeared to believe he was dealing with a disabled adult in some capacity, I don't think he was thinking like a cop, more like a social worker in that moment. Scary regardless.
@MG-ru5pi
@MG-ru5pi Жыл бұрын
This is crazy but I work in the hearing clinic Amber Hicks worked at, in Marietta GA. It brings chills to me that you’re covering her case because what happened to her was so devastating. She was an audiology assistant. Rest In Peace Amber.
@nohmers18
@nohmers18 Жыл бұрын
Huh? What did you say?
@luc1ferblack
@luc1ferblack Жыл бұрын
Why is that crazy eveyone knows someone?
@Freckle_Face2247
@Freckle_Face2247 Жыл бұрын
@@luc1ferblackobviously most people would have that reaction to seeing a story by a beloved KZbinr covering a story about someone familiar. 🙄
@flemdog07
@flemdog07 Жыл бұрын
​@@nohmers18 sorry what was that bud?
@orders69pizzas30
@orders69pizzas30 Жыл бұрын
@@luc1ferblack because of all the cases he chose one of somebody she knew? tf? that's why..
@miromir0
@miromir0 Жыл бұрын
"Are you afraid to come up?" So creepy and scary!
@DystopianUtopia8
@DystopianUtopia8 Жыл бұрын
For real that is a threat and a perfectly justifiable use of force would have been absolutely fine there.
@cass818
@cass818 Жыл бұрын
YES THAT GAVE ME CHILLS
@user-us5pv8zw3z
@user-us5pv8zw3z 9 күн бұрын
Hell yes!
@jennross6466
@jennross6466 Жыл бұрын
Makes me mad. The parents knew their sons were unwell mentally and did nothing to get them help. Start making the parents accountable as well. Since the parents cannot be charged with homicide, at least force them to pay a hefty monetary fine to the families of the deceased.
@cf3208
@cf3208 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately "real mental health treatment" doesnt really exist for unwilling paranoid schizophrenics until it's too late. My big brother has it too and he has been involuntarily committed to a psych hospital countless times, and the police called countless times, but they keep letting him out damn well knowing that he's insane. Thankfully I live a few hours away from him, but our dad is fully involved in trying to get my brother help, but he is just getting worse and worse and crazier and crazier. We told police officers and doctors and therapists how we think my brother is absolutely capable of severely hurting or killing somebody (has been violent and hurt my dad) but they literally do nothing about it. I really hope I'm wrong about this but my brother is a ticking time bomb and I'm scared of him. Even if the Lanz brothers had parents that were very aware of their mental illnesses, it's very likely they wouldn't have been able to get them help anyway
@carolrado5730
@carolrado5730 Жыл бұрын
Start praying in Jesus' name, for real. It's spiritual illness.
@raquelmurillo8791
@raquelmurillo8791 Жыл бұрын
This is true and needs to change. Mental hospitals, release PPL with schizophrenia and expect them to take their meds. It's a vicious dysfunctional cycle, that endangers everyone especially the family of the mentally ill, person. My bf is a lawyer, his daughter was a nurse, going to college for a 2 nd degree. That's when her Schizophrenia hit. In the years I've known him, his daughter has threatened to kill him, several times. She can become violent and threatens him often. She only gets held for 48-72 hrs... and released with meds.... Which she eventually stops taking. My heart goes out to all family of those suffering with mental illness .. there has to be better ways to handle violent patients to keep them safe, their family n public safe. .. No one should have to live in fear... Not knowing what will push, a mental patient. Over the edge.... We need to improve mental health care in the U. S. A... It must be a priority
@StreakyBaconMan
@StreakyBaconMan Жыл бұрын
@@carolrado5730 What a disgusting thing to say to someone - not only is that completely false, it's extremely dangerous if anybody was to believe you and opt to pray instead of seeking actual help from medical professionals. Plus it kind if seems like you're saying it's peoples own fault if they have this mental illness because they're not right spiritually. Absolutely despicable. Go preach your Jesus nonsense somewhere else - how dare you try and use an emotional story someone is telling to try and manipulate them into adopting your religious beliefs.
@1DangerMouse1
@1DangerMouse1 Жыл бұрын
Blaming the mental health treatment system or mental health professionals won't help here. People really misunderstand the effectiveness of treatment. Psychiatric prescribers and therapists can't just fix people. We need better meds and treatments. There is a lot we don't know about the minds. A huge percentage of people with schizophrenia don't respond to antipsychotic medication (like around 20% at least). Another significant cluster of people only partially respond to antipsychotic medication. Psychotherapy has very limited effectiveness for delusions. Also, there is no easy answer to the issue of maintaining patient rights. There is a long history of psychiatrists having way too much power and abusing it (having people locked up who should not have been, keeping people in long term psychiatric centers without justification, ordering treatments that are not evidence based, etc). People often seem to want a kind of authoritarian response from some government appointed psychiatrist or something without considering the unintended consequences of this as well as the fact that you can only control people so much when they're that delusional anyway. But yeah please don't put unrealistic expectations on mental health professionals. It won't help.
@cf3208
@cf3208 Жыл бұрын
@@1DangerMouse1 lol you're so misguided if you think I'm blaming mental health professionals. If anything, it's lawmakers because we aren't allowed to commit violent schizophrenics until they do irreparable damage to somebody else or themselves. But even if they are committed, like you said, meds really don't do anything for a lot of them, and there's a lot of cases where they just won't get better despite anything. I agree with a lot of you said, except the part where you said I'm blaming mental health professionals, especially since I used to work in mental health myself. Quit putting words in my mouth please :)
@user-op6kt8pg9y
@user-op6kt8pg9y Жыл бұрын
Stuff like this is why I always look behind and around me when entering my home, and also the reason I check all doors and windows are locked before going to sleep every night
@WideAwakeHuman
@WideAwakeHuman Жыл бұрын
Same - people call me paranoid but I just call it being reasonable lol.
@indi3066
@indi3066 Жыл бұрын
Better to be paranoid but alive
@buckfideniimd8546
@buckfideniimd8546 Жыл бұрын
That’s called being proactive and it very well may save your life. I check my property perimeter every night as well.
@kevinspacey5325
@kevinspacey5325 Жыл бұрын
I do the same, I also keep my berreta in close reach with 2 full magazines.
@OneBadAssMoMo
@OneBadAssMoMo Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched enough doorbell news to lock everything up every single night.
@toothscrape
@toothscrape Жыл бұрын
we need to know more about the parents. how could they ignore both of their sons' very obvious mental illnesses? this is an insane case
@carebear8762
@carebear8762 Жыл бұрын
Ever tried to get someone actually committed in this country? There's a reason we have an exploding homelessness problem, it is almost impossible to get people who need supervised care help "against their will", and no place to put them to get it. Because mental incompetency became, legally, a "lifestyle choice" in the '60s and '70s, and the places to provide that care were demonized and then defunded as not being used.
@Flaschenteufel
@Flaschenteufel Жыл бұрын
"we need to know more about the parents" aside from the question if they were enablers - who are you? The Inquisition?
@Flaschenteufel
@Flaschenteufel Жыл бұрын
​@@carebear8762 Wut so Hippies made mental health care go away? That's what your right wing puppet masters told you? Really? And you believe that?
@carebear8762
@carebear8762 Жыл бұрын
@Russ Olson Didn't intend to imply it was the only reason, but if you look at the data the percentage of seriously mentally ill people rotating between the streets and jail tracks very well with the decrease in long-term and supervised psychiatric care beds. When you add in drug addiction the Venn diagram starts to converge as ill people self-medicate with drugs and alcohol, and serious addiction causes psychosis. The concerted effort beginning in the '50s to dismantle the psychiatric health care system in this country, without any realistic replacement being proffered can be directly tied to many of the societal degradation issues we see. It is neither humane nor merciful nor respectful to enable damaged people to commit slow-motion public suicide rather than taking them into supervised care.
@amberfuchscia709
@amberfuchscia709 Жыл бұрын
I am the parent of a mentally ill son. We had him in therapy for most of his childhood. He rotated in and out of mental health facilities for most of his teenaged years. When he committed a terrible crime at the age of 17 1/2 he was sent to a rather jail like mental health facility. We were then given the option of being deported with him or letting him be deported alone. As he was in a secure facility, we tried desperately to get him into a residential program in the States. He took matters into his own hands the day he turned 18 and fled Europe to go with a fellow mental patient to the States. Made our decision moot. We were then told that because he was legally an adult, we had no say in whatever happened to him. So, I cannot blame the parents. I believe they probably loved their sons and wanted what was best for them. Sometimes, no matter how hard one tries to do the right thing, things just go horribly wrong. I feel for the parents. I know the helpless feeling when one cannot do a damned thing to help one's child.
@elleg1573
@elleg1573 Жыл бұрын
So glad this case is getting more attention. I grew up just down the road from the neighborhood this happened in. I'm still just blown away by it all and unfortunately, it feels like the local news in ATL has forgotten about this case. No idea when Matthew Lanz is going to trial in either of the Fulton or Cobb cases or whether he's even mentally fit to stand trial.
@itz._.lynzi.elle.
@itz._.lynzi.elle. 7 ай бұрын
I too live less than 1mile from this, and can't find any information about trial other than it's been postponed twice now., in 2 years.
@kirstynbauer8227
@kirstynbauer8227 5 ай бұрын
We still have no dates or answers! He is pleading insanity. He has been under evaluation for a year. This is causing the case to be put on hold.
@user-gy9ec6nk3e
@user-gy9ec6nk3e 2 ай бұрын
These are my family members that were killed. He is trying to plead insanity. With all of the details that have come out, and I’m sure so many more that we don’t know, there is no way this wasn’t pre-meditated. We are still waiting for justice for our family.
@elleg1573
@elleg1573 2 ай бұрын
@@user-gy9ec6nk3e I'm so sorry for your loss. I hope he does stand trial and faces justice for what he did. I know it will never replace them, but you deserve that closure. Keeping your family in my thoughts. 🙏
@hibaali3797
@hibaali3797 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE HOW MIKE TELLS THE STORY. IV BEEN WATCHING him for years and look how well hes done 🎉... WELL DONE BIG DOG.. 🎉🎉
@DPSFSU
@DPSFSU Жыл бұрын
Once the parents found out that there was a double homicide right next door to their home and that it was the same house their eldest son had problems with, you'd think their stomachs would be in their throats. They must have known their other son was involved. Some POS parents right there.
@thehaleybird
@thehaleybird Жыл бұрын
It can't be easy as parents to have a mentally ill child, but we have to guess that these parents were absent/enabling their children with their inaction. It's wild that both of their kids were able to get away with such erratic behavior. The parents clearly preferred to "protect" or ignore their children over taking action. It cost the lives of their own child, an innocent man, and almost multiple other people. I'm so curious to know more about them.
@Eclipse1369
@Eclipse1369 Жыл бұрын
@@thehaleybird what about two mentally ill people
@dmcgee3
@dmcgee3 Жыл бұрын
Well they certainly suspected as they then drove to his apartment and asked him if he was involved and took his gun. Why they didn’t call the cops right then shows what POS’s they are
@Joelswinger34
@Joelswinger34 Жыл бұрын
Agreed! I bet they stuck their heads in the sand because it would be embarassing to admit their sons were POS's. Well, they can't ignore it now.
@richardwilson487
@richardwilson487 Жыл бұрын
Big time!! 2 very insane young men with parents that were ordered to get them treatment, yet presumably did not. They should also be charged.
@PaleHorseShabuShabu
@PaleHorseShabuShabu Жыл бұрын
I had a friend who was paranoid schizophrenic. He believed his phones were tapped and that every plane that flew over was spying on him. I was in my late teens and had zero experience with mental health issues, so for a while I thought he was joking. When I realized he was serious I tried to get him help, but no one in his life but me gave a damn. It's scary being around someone that unpredictable.
@Agent_A_Graham
@Agent_A_Graham Жыл бұрын
It doesn't help America doesn't care about systemic discord in their communities. They'll give lipservice to falsely advocate for mental health services when the issue is about overproduction of guns and shootings, and then not do anything to give citizens unconditional healthcare with the taxes we all spend to get the stuff. Just more boom boom in brown countries and we just say thots and prayers, waiting for the next disturbed person to cook up in their helpless situations.
@lawrencelopez9839
@lawrencelopez9839 Жыл бұрын
back in college I knew a guy who thought there were cameras everywhere looking at him and the girls at the dormitory next to us were watching and doing commentary on everything he did. He thought old thumbtacks and props on the walls were cameras and he accused the dorm next door. He realized later that it didn't make sense when he could still hear the girls even when he was far away from the dorms so he did get help.
@supernova11711
@supernova11711 Жыл бұрын
Even scarier for him I imagine. Here’s this young man who has all of these things going on in his head and he has no idea what’s real and what isn’t. You could just leave or stop talking to him but he had no way out of that world and nobody in his life that cared enough to help. That’s completely heartbreaking. I hope he’s doing okay.
@janetdouglas1272
@janetdouglas1272 Жыл бұрын
It's even worse when the people they live with deny anything is wrong & they fully accept living with the fear of harm and all the abuse from their batshit crazy theories, believing them to be mostly true. And those family members attack you for saying something! Lots of people live in denial because of the social status concerns: "Nothing wrong here".
@Kthb80
@Kthb80 Жыл бұрын
They believe in their delusions so much they refuse to take medicine that makes feel more “normal”, the delusions are real, they don’t want medication just dulls them. It’s very difficult to treat.
@chandrabrown1622
@chandrabrown1622 Жыл бұрын
Omg!!! Rest In Eternity Justin and Amber!! Sending peace and positive vibes to their baby boy who was robbed of his parents for no reason!!!😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏💔💔
@missjackson3223
@missjackson3223 Жыл бұрын
Matthew asking the officer if he was scared to come up, was intimidating enough. I would've called swat. 🤬
@gordonramsdale
@gordonramsdale Жыл бұрын
Was the first time I’ve seen an American cop being too conservative with pulling a gun
@tangie06_33
@tangie06_33 Жыл бұрын
Note to self - when purchasing a home ask directly if there have been any crimes or homicides committed on the property. Investigate ALL the neighbors too.
@CarpeNutella
@CarpeNutella Жыл бұрын
Schizophrenia in men usually presents in the early to mid 20s. If someone is genetically prone to have it, any traumatic event could cause an episode. For example, his brother's death. My aunt had schizophrenia and was hospitalized most of her life. It's a terrible condition to have.
@rebeccagable9629
@rebeccagable9629 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree that was the disease both brothers had...
@hislord1
@hislord1 Жыл бұрын
schizo doesn't cause you to go on murder sprees.
@Max501
@Max501 Жыл бұрын
​@@hislord1 true, but people with schizophrenia can develop violent behavior without remorse. I dealt with them in hospitals.
@TitanUranus69
@TitanUranus69 8 ай бұрын
​@@hislord1i mean they are obviously responsible for their actions, but i can have some slight sympathy for someone who is a victim of his own mind
@funpheonix9752
@funpheonix9752 3 ай бұрын
@@Max501I’d say the majority of people with schizophrenia are more than likely threats to themselves, though. Not others
@taddybear4244
@taddybear4244 Жыл бұрын
Mike is an exceptional storyteller and covers so many cases that I've never heard of. He's so good at his craft that I almost don't believe that the stories are true.
@user-ps8lw5hh6m
@user-ps8lw5hh6m Жыл бұрын
Jesus. I don't know how Mike can make these videos on a weekly basis let alone imbue them with so much humor. (Thanks, Mike). This one's rough. My heart goes out to their child and family.
@SynthoidSounds
@SynthoidSounds Жыл бұрын
This is beyond weird. What had been going on in their home life, history with the parents and so on? Both brothers are off the charts mentally disturbed, but the parents were, maybe in denial . . . it would be relevant to know what could have possibly led up to this.
@Vynjira-chan
@Vynjira-chan Жыл бұрын
It was mentioned this was Schizophrenia, and schizophrenia is known to be as much as 90 percent heritable. People suffering from it usually do not become violent unless someone feeds into their delusions.. It seems likely the brothers fed into each other... if one of them has ASPD we'll know for sure that one was feeding into the other.
@rebeccagable9629
@rebeccagable9629 Жыл бұрын
Paranoid schizophrenics IMHO.
@derpestarzt
@derpestarzt Жыл бұрын
Parents are probably government agents & their sons are medical experiments.
@OrangeCat1992
@OrangeCat1992 Жыл бұрын
Schizophrenia isn’t caused by home life. It’s a biological condition caused by genetics and/or a combination of genetics and prenatal developmental stressors. Also, people with schizophrenia don’t usually develop symptoms until late teens or early adulthood, so it could be this was their first major manifestations of their disorders. I, personally, wouldn’t put a lot of blame on the parents without knowing a lot more about the circumstances.
@RR-mv1vr
@RR-mv1vr Жыл бұрын
@@OrangeCat1992 fair point but not sure they should go un reprimanded for not going to the police when they had their suspicions about two innocent victims
@quigli
@quigli Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: In the U.S. it actually IS a crime to put something in someone else's mailbox without permission, unless you're a USPS or UPS employee Edit: Apparently UPS also can't use it. Amazon delivers using UPS to my area, and they'll usually put smaller items in the mailbox, so I kind of just assumed they were allowed 🤷🏼‍♀️
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 Жыл бұрын
Interfering with the US Mail is a felony!
@wellfuckyoumr
@wellfuckyoumr Жыл бұрын
Ups isn’t allowed to put shit in your mail box
@brandons5479
@brandons5479 Жыл бұрын
Is this true? In my town new food businesses when opening up will put food menus in everyones mailboxes to bring them new customers.
@flysensi
@flysensi Жыл бұрын
I’ve never given anyone permission to send me junk mail, yet that’s all I get.
@yunglynda1326
@yunglynda1326 Жыл бұрын
i've seen people put them on the outside with tape or stick in the door
@Bludgeoned2DEATH2
@Bludgeoned2DEATH2 Жыл бұрын
With the recent Allen TX shooting and all the pictures I’ve seen I also learned that one of the survivors was a 6 year old boy who’s entire family was wiped (mom dad and younger sibling) from this Earth and I just can’t get that out of my head. A boy left alone. These stories may end for us with some resolution but that 2 year old in this story and the 6 year old from Allen TX will always live knowing their parents are gone and what that means for them as they grow older. There’s a disease in this country and it’s quickly becoming harder and harder to prevent anything anymore.
@theresabridges5022
@theresabridges5022 Жыл бұрын
In case you ever question it, Mike, this is absolutely what you should be doing with your life. Can’t get enough of you/your videos my brother. You bring such great humor elements to otherwise heavy content. Keep doing what you’re doing, Mike! ♥️👊☮️
@alpo27
@alpo27 Жыл бұрын
I swear I thought Mike said Lands dislocated one of the guard's tongues. I was thinking in the back of my mind for a couple mins how that's even possible - until the news report stated "thumbs" and it all made sense. LOL. Love the stories, Mike! Patreon proud!
@clray123
@clray123 Жыл бұрын
I imagined the guard trying to lick him really hard.
@raheelsarvana
@raheelsarvana Жыл бұрын
Lol I figured he meant something else but couldn't figure out what part of the body rhymes with tongue
@mayberelevant3237
@mayberelevant3237 Жыл бұрын
😂that’s what I thought at first too ! And I was thinking how can you dislocate a tongue 😮
@debwilson245
@debwilson245 Жыл бұрын
i did too - i kept thinking, how does a tongue get dislocated..... omg lol... i had to backup and added cc - thumb
@mockgothgurl
@mockgothgurl Жыл бұрын
I heard it that way too, and wondered how that would be possible. 😆👅
@builtinsuspicion
@builtinsuspicion Жыл бұрын
This is one scary, batty case. It will be interesting to see the outcome. It's sad how many innocent people lost their lives to this madness. Thank you as always for another interesting story. Keep safe, and remember, we love ya.
@KathyHussey063
@KathyHussey063 Жыл бұрын
@@kylem3295 Don't be a jerk, there's no reason for it. A big reason a lot of us watch these kind of channels/reports/stories about true crime is; because we want to know how we can tell, ahead of time, that we are in the cross hairs of a killer or other type of criminal. We want to know more about who DOES murder others & I'm telling you, I never would've thought a lot of the ones who do kill without conscience would've been murderers. We have little resources to draw from, to be able to sense trouble like that when it's near us.. Most killers are extremely manipulative & so are those who commit every other kind of crime. Knowledge, info can sometimes be the difference between life and death. How they catch killers is very interesting to me too; the forensic tests & collecting of specimens & samples & the different techniques, the ability to view a crime scene & figure out what happened when, how they interview witnesses & how to do that skillfully, thoroughly, all matters in catching these killers. I know this type of video may not be for all people, yet there are a lot of us who also HAVE BEEN victims of some very serious crimes ourselves, and those whose loved ones have been murdered as well, and just maybe some of us want to understand how killers may think just a bit more, in order to protect ourseles and our loved ones better..Knowing what has and has not worked for victims in different situations as victims may also be of calue to help others escape from being killed by a nut or a perfectly calm evil person......
@onaematopia
@onaematopia Жыл бұрын
@@KathyHussey063 I don’t know what that person said because the comment is gone but well said, I completely agree with what you said
@YouTubeSnoozer
@YouTubeSnoozer 11 ай бұрын
There is more to the case. I met him in jail and we had the same lawyer. There is something bigger going on. Don't trust the news one second
@tishfox2858
@tishfox2858 Жыл бұрын
I hope the little boy, being only 2 yrs old at the time, turns out that he has no memory of witnessing the murders of his parents.🤞😪🙏💜
@itsverycontroversial8050
@itsverycontroversial8050 Жыл бұрын
Mike is so much more interesting to watch and in my opinion for the audience to be able to follow the story with the classic black background! So happy it's back. This style, it's very intruiguing and his own 'stamp' on storytelling.
@hilarydellinger4185
@hilarydellinger4185 Жыл бұрын
100%
@lotuslife8359
@lotuslife8359 Жыл бұрын
Awe thank you for covering this story! I currently work as a contractor in DC at FPS that staffed the late Officer Gonzalez. This week is Officer Memorial Week and we salute and remember him and so many other brave officers killed in the line of duty! The National FBI Wreath Laying Ceremony will be held in their honor tomorrow 5/10/23🙏🏾 🇺🇸
@miryana79
@miryana79 Жыл бұрын
Law should be changed to have the trial ASAP. The longer the delay, memories and events can fade etc... It's awful when innocent people that protect the public die because a mental person was on the loose.
@pkrat
@pkrat Жыл бұрын
@@kylem3295 having an opinion when the cops botch an investigation isn’t “throwing someone under the bus” but okay lol
@theheartlessknight2426
@theheartlessknight2426 Жыл бұрын
I yelled at my TV. My love to Officer Gonzales' loved ones and family, my thanks for his service and my apologies.
@Dee-JayW
@Dee-JayW Жыл бұрын
ACAB
@theheartlessknight2426
@theheartlessknight2426 Жыл бұрын
@@miryana79 They're supposed to be entitled to a swift trial, I think... but like a lot of things these days, it's probably in the idea, not the practice. I agree with you though. I'd also like to see something done, in cases of people like this, the first time a major red flag appears. The parents should be ashamed of themselves for watching events unfold, when in BOTH cases, they clearly had some idea of what was happening.
@jumpingman6612
@jumpingman6612 Жыл бұрын
"...are you afraid to come up?" A wee bit
@JuneGillespie-uf3sl
@JuneGillespie-uf3sl Жыл бұрын
Too bad mental illness is so hard to detect. We have to pay more attention to each other as people are suffering and nobody notices. We have to calm down as a society and try to have love and understanding. Too bad for everyone involved! It is horrendous to live through such awful events. I feel so sorry and can't do anything but watch my family and friends. Mike you sure do a great job relating all these stories. Keep up the great work! 'Cause I love yea!!!!
@kaiswindells7401
@kaiswindells7401 Жыл бұрын
Actually schizoaffective disorder is pretty easy to detect! If the parents had done even a basic assessment for their son they would have spotted it almost immediately and saved lives. Very sad
@paxsmile
@paxsmile Жыл бұрын
The cop that was trying to get the creep to come downstairs just had the worst skills ever. Talking to him like he’s a little mischievous 4 year old. No preparation or stance whatsoever when the guy appeared. Just crazy and dangerous.
@natasha83196
@natasha83196 Жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder what kind of home these two came from and why the parents didn’t get them help. They had to know. I have a relative with schizoaffective disorder… trust me, its very obvious something isn’t right.
@pkrat
@pkrat Жыл бұрын
@@kylem3295 Cause it’s so hard to notice when something is off with someone? You go away Kyle go punch some drywall nerd.
@kentuky1233
@kentuky1233 Жыл бұрын
My brother has paranoid schizophrenia too. So you must know how hard is to get them treatment or forceful hospitalization against their will.
@ktreznin5538
@ktreznin5538 Жыл бұрын
This was 100% avoidable. The parents knew that their boys weren't right in the head. If the parents had gotten them help or even had them examined/evaluated, those people would still be alive. I put this on the parents. They should be charged with neglect.
@ohionative5237
@ohionative5237 Жыл бұрын
I've seen situations where parents were doing the right thing when the child/children were minors. Once the kids become adults they are in charge of their own medical decisions. Both of those guys were over eighteen and if they chose to stop taking medication there's nothing their parents could have done about.
@hefoxed
@hefoxed Жыл бұрын
The parents may have not been right in the head also, but been able to handle it better :x
@endless3cho
@endless3cho Жыл бұрын
I usually put things on the person who did it. Hindsight makes everyone believe they know what should've happened, that's the beauty of hindsight.
@FarnzworthIII
@FarnzworthIII Жыл бұрын
Once they are 18… nothing you can do.
@robertluong3024
@robertluong3024 Жыл бұрын
When I was younger, I used to blame everything on their parents. When you get older, you can see some parents trying and just not able to sort it out. They can try their best and just not know how to handle these situations themselves.
@ravengatos7844
@ravengatos7844 Жыл бұрын
This case is INSANE. It certainly makes me appreciate my good neighbors.
@pollyhunt2395
@pollyhunt2395 Жыл бұрын
Thanks mike, appreciate your hard work and time you put in to these videos x
@johnkufeldt3564
@johnkufeldt3564 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the weirdest ones yet Mike. Thanks for what you do.
@namelessgrace6319
@namelessgrace6319 Жыл бұрын
My mouth was agape throughout the whole video! Absolutely nutty.
@sunshine3914
@sunshine3914 Жыл бұрын
He’s had a couple of weirder ones. Guy living inside the sofa was one.
@lilyofthefoxvalley
@lilyofthefoxvalley Жыл бұрын
Everyone say a prayer of thanks if you have decent neighbors where you live.
@GooberFace32
@GooberFace32 Жыл бұрын
After watching this one I just said a prayer of thanks for our neighbors even if they're a little nosy sometimes.❤Better to have that kind of neighbor than the kind just described by Mike!
@paxsmile
@paxsmile Жыл бұрын
All my neighbors are the best ❤️
@sunshine3914
@sunshine3914 Жыл бұрын
Both my neighbors are cool, but their grown-ass boys still live in their backyards & are are all just as batshit crazy as these two brothers were.
@paxsmile
@paxsmile Жыл бұрын
@@sunshine3914 crazy like in kid stuff or criminal?
@amethyst79
@amethyst79 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had 7 years of nightmare neighbours. The house next to mine is social housing and basically trouble makers get housed there. I’m a single female who lives on her own and sometimes it’s scary, as I only have one way out of my house and I have to walk past next door. During the pandemic there was a guy in there who had been in prison for assault and had 37 violence convictions. It was terrifying but no one cared. He’s now in prison for attempted murder…..
@luckydirectioner1
@luckydirectioner1 4 ай бұрын
My brother showed signs of schizophrenia when he was 15 my parents ignored it for years as he continually became aggressive. The walls of my moms house have holes from him punching, kicking, and throwing things, the door is messed up from when he tried to get to my older brother with a hatchet, he was constantly yelling and arguing with everyone. He recently turned 21 and just got diagnosed. It took him staying awake for almost a week because he saw something trying hurt his dog and it wouldnt hurt her if he was awake to finally get the help he needed. Everday i would dread a call that he hurt my mom, my older brother, or himself. Please please please help your kids before something happens
@thehangingparsiple5692
@thehangingparsiple5692 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a case of folie à deux - where one sibling or partner convinces the other to believe in their delusions/psychosis. It's very rare, but very interesting. The sibling doesn't have to have signs of the mental illness his brother/sister had, either before or after. The Eriksson sisters, Sabina and Ursula, are perfect examples
@thexxit
@thexxit Жыл бұрын
That poor beautiful family. Finding their dream home, starting their family, and then this. I'm sure the person who sold it to them has some guilt thinking he had gotten away from the harassment, especially when the one brother killed himself, and then this happens. My thoughts are with the families of the dead.
@nono9543
@nono9543 Жыл бұрын
I'd bet pretty good money that Matthew had a similar condition to his older brother but knew how to keep it under wraps after seeing what his brother went through. His mask likely wore off when his brother died and all what he cared for was gone.
@SugarandSarcasm
@SugarandSarcasm Жыл бұрын
It was probably his death that triggered Matthew. With him also not living with the parents, probably easier to hide
@nono9543
@nono9543 Жыл бұрын
@@SugarandSarcasm Definitely. It wouldn't surprise me if Matthew had some skeletons hiding in his closet too.
@jent2265
@jent2265 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Truly heartbreaking for everyone involved
@nono9543
@nono9543 Жыл бұрын
@@jent2265 It is horribly tragic and needless.
@rayagray6321
@rayagray6321 Жыл бұрын
Yeah its called meth.
@kimcwhite6509
@kimcwhite6509 Жыл бұрын
Mike, I looked up real estate law in Georgia. That state doesn't require the seller to fill out a disclosure form. Here in California, and I'm sure most states, the seller has to disclose (in writing) any defects in the house along with crimes or a death in the house. Too bad, because the buyers would have known about the crazy neighbor boys😢
@SpikeDaft
@SpikeDaft Жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore your channel. Your videos are of higher quality than many of the shows that are on tv. THANK YOU for your tireless work on this channel and your podcast!
@dianawright8334
@dianawright8334 Жыл бұрын
Actually if he would have gave his mailbox evidence to the Postmaster General he would have been charged Federally. The police should have told them what to do. This is a horribly sad story. We had a lot of neighbor trouble, it cost us 10 years of miserableness 3 lawyers and 75 grad. We were tired of getting shot at and our house broken into. We moved 800 miles away. Best thing we ever did. Our poor dogs were poisoned. My husband almost lost his shite over this. We had to get out.
@mustangnawt1
@mustangnawt1 Жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry. Feel so bad for u, hubby, and your pups:( Hope u all can heal from all that and have the help u need
@dianawright8334
@dianawright8334 Жыл бұрын
@@mustangnawt1 we have been given such a much better life. Tenfold. It’s weird but I know it’s been 10 fold in the other direction for the neighbors who ran us off. After all that was done to us, I feel sorry for them. God is Good
@lj0727
@lj0727 Жыл бұрын
I had a similar situation. The man next door was absolutely unhinged. He poisoned and killed one of my dogs. Tried to shoot the other. Any time I would mow the lawn he would freak the hell out on me. I couldn't even order delivery because I was worried about them pulling in the wrong driveway and being shot by him. He used to sit in the front entryway with his shotgun. He started a fire in my shed. Like it was just insane. At first, I didn't realize it was him, then I couldn't prove it was him, or that he was doing anything. The cops were trying to help me but like... it was so hard to finally get him on something. I put cameras up but he somehow got around them. Invested in even more cameras so there was no way he could avoid them all. Eventually, when he poisoned my dog, I thought we finally had him. It was on camera and my dog died. Then he was released on bond. When he was released I took my other dog and left to a friend's house. I didn't know what to do. I couldn't morally sell and have him start the torture of some other innocent family when they moved in. It was taken out of my hands two weeks later. He shot an innocent man out walking his dog. The dog stepped like 5 feet onto his lawn.. and he ran out and got into a screaming match with the guy and shot him. He went to prison for 25 to life. Some people are just fucking insane and there is no helping them.
@a.nobodys.nobody
@a.nobodys.nobody Жыл бұрын
Jeez. Sounds like an episode of Fear Thy Neighbor
@judithgannon5642
@judithgannon5642 11 ай бұрын
I'm just thinking how malevolent or sick people focus on a household. There were 2 brothers who bothered us, were on the property and more, for many years as they grew up. I lost 2 cats. Inside, things were moved or went missing. The charger for a vacuum, and one of a pair of shoes, lots of times, over the years. Car exterior mirrors whacked flat. That kind of stuff. My house and garage were their playhouse and we people and animals, their toys. People are asking about the parents of this film and crime. Well, if I said anything to the mother, "How do you know it was my boys?" And the father would either say, "I'll talk to them." or "Not my boys!" In our case we were chosen for the fun because of proximity, and because we were 2 women. I personally know 3 other single women homeowners who sold and moved because a neighbor singled them out for some kind of funny stuff. Another who should, and a friend who changed apartments because of it. I was told to set up cameras, too. Wish I had.
@annabellebrosnan9315
@annabellebrosnan9315 Жыл бұрын
My mum died and Ive been in bits. Only thing to distract me from consuming grief has been your humour. You're so awesome and unconventionally hot. THANKS a mil, you're a legend ❤
@lynnhoffman247
@lynnhoffman247 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss 😢🙏🏼
@bec5250
@bec5250 Жыл бұрын
Really sorry to hear you are experiencing such heartache. Stay strong.
@sidneygreenglass106
@sidneygreenglass106 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss. I lost my Mama, I know it's so hard. Hang in there.
@markchromik1761
@markchromik1761 Жыл бұрын
If someone gets separated from any branch in the military, that is a huge red flag. There is a high tolerance for psychopathy, if you’re too psycho for the military… get help
@Eskapismus
@Eskapismus Жыл бұрын
The police officer talking to Matthew inside the house was being so nice and calm. :/
@oldleatherhandsfriends4053
@oldleatherhandsfriends4053 Жыл бұрын
It's how you have to be. The officer new what was likely to happen when they got came down. It's why he got his partner on the other side of the stairs so it would be hard for the guy to effectively attack/fight both of them. I would have shot that guy the second I saw that knife.
@missmelissa3573
@missmelissa3573 Жыл бұрын
That poor child. A life ruined due to this senseless screwed up act. It’s extremely angering. My sister is paranoid schizophrenic and it truly ruins a family to deal with this. These people refuse treatment and in the process ruin lives and the law doesn’t force them into facilities to live permanently. It’s such a mess.
@shamako4ever718
@shamako4ever718 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, we really missed the life insurance dance , hope to see it this time, with that being said let's give it a gooooo!!!
@SEEvans
@SEEvans Жыл бұрын
If you could upload a 5 minute video of your insurance dances as a compilation, I'll die happy. Thaaaanks lol
@kimistryhoward5620
@kimistryhoward5620 Жыл бұрын
I'm putting in life insurance boogie comp. Please and thank you 🎉😂
@miho9585
@miho9585 Жыл бұрын
As much as I feel bad with the victims, we still get that feeling to miss the insurance dance 🤣🤣🤣🤣 ❤❤
@patrickblakethesaint
@patrickblakethesaint Жыл бұрын
It's a revenge plot...
@charlieevergreen3514
@charlieevergreen3514 Жыл бұрын
(Before watching) Nah, man, neighbor’s not getting any life insurance.
@TheMarilyn139
@TheMarilyn139 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike ! Thankyou so much for Tuesday's latest from That Chapter ! As you said this story was totally bat shit crazy !!! What an horrific crime by these two obviously mentally ill brothers Austin and Matthew Lanz ! Austin was clinically mentally ill but he did not get the treatment he should have had and went on to a total obsession with his next door neighbours but then after the neigbours were tormented so much by him they moved and the new neighbours who moved in suffered an horrendous at the hands of Austins brother Matthew ! Phew I was totally gobsmacked by this one Mike a really tragic awful terrible crime to murder a beautiful young couple and leave their baby without both parents !!! You did an absolutely brilliant job Mike once again in bringing this horrific crime to light about the Lanz brothers !! Well done big dog ! another great story from you ! Stay safe Mike and those around you too and I love ya lots too !!! See you in the next ol' video I can't wait !! and as always " LET'S GIVE IT A GOO " !!!!! superb Mike just superb !!! Thanks Mate !!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jeremytate1142
@jeremytate1142 Жыл бұрын
Nice work Mike, this one is another bothersome series of events leaving me in that uncomfortable place we must examine as inhabitants of this wonderous speck 🤙
@katiemaycosplay
@katiemaycosplay Жыл бұрын
My buddy just passed from drugs, was recording himself the weeks before saying people are following him and that "the matrix" is real.. I feel so sorry for addicts that have a weak support system to help them get through it.
@faykouri1162
@faykouri1162 Жыл бұрын
What kind of help did those parents give their sick sons, they are certainly responsible for what has happened . So sad!
@teresac3964
@teresac3964 Жыл бұрын
Tragic, tragic case. But so cool, Mike, you are presenting brand new cases. Us true crime fanatics tend to already be familiar with the older cases out there. Thank you!
@BrickTsar
@BrickTsar Жыл бұрын
I’m so proud of you pronouncing Acworth correctly. I start work each day in Acworth.
@LeeDee5
@LeeDee5 Жыл бұрын
Aww the post where the couple where about to move in, they were so happy.
@pixiehopper8
@pixiehopper8 Жыл бұрын
This case is so tragic for so many people. I don’t even know where to start. It’s just devastating. I don’t understand why the parents never did a thing to get those boys help?! They obviously knew they had issues, but still did nothing. 🙄🙄
@blaynesouthon6795
@blaynesouthon6795 Жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to the families involved, even to the parents of the Lanz boys. Love ya Mike!! Keep up the brilliant work 💪 from New Zealand
@kennethhaughton-wr4iy
@kennethhaughton-wr4iy Жыл бұрын
Wow Mike. You never cease to amaze. Because you are amazing. Thanx. Love ya! God bless
@msc8663
@msc8663 Жыл бұрын
That's just creepy are you afraid to come up? Love you Mike this and your podcast are awesome. Loved the last one with Keith. 💕
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n Жыл бұрын
Even better was the officer's immediate reply, are you afraid to come down? He was the best part of this story, he had nut job's number. Even had the cojones to take a couple pokes for the team. Then shot the guy twice but kept him alive to be held accountable.
@Vaajraath
@Vaajraath Жыл бұрын
Another one of those creepy stories where, possible mistaken identity aside, innocent people get murdered by a complete stranger with nothing whatsoever other than wrong place, wrong time as the reason for their deaths.
@lorettascott5477
@lorettascott5477 Жыл бұрын
And at home 🏡 of all places.....😪😥😢😭😭
@haidengeary8277
@haidengeary8277 Жыл бұрын
I was diagnosed as schizoaffective a few years ago, and this terrifies me. I'm a good person, tho, I think. I understand people need to be punished for their actions, but nobody just decides to hear voices, see things/people not there and the like. I have also been having seizures since I was 20 years old, and therefore unable to operate a motor vehicle, which has left me with many missed opportunities. The reason I refuse to drive, is because it takes mere moments, a small seizure, to cause the deaths of innocent people. And I could never live with myself after that , so I choose not to take the risk.
@Idontwant1
@Idontwant1 Жыл бұрын
The parents thought enough to confront their son. And take his gun away from him. But didn’t take the bullets or any other weapons he had. But didn’t think to tell the police? The parents should be held accountable too.
@skreemqueen7520
@skreemqueen7520 Жыл бұрын
OMG! This is horrifying!!! It’s all so senseless!!!! I can’t understand what Matthew was thinking at all. My sympathy to all the victims families. Great work , Mike. I love ya.
@wendys390
@wendys390 Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to imagine how the parents deal with the fact their children both did these things. It must be terrible to have such a burden.
@DWardington
@DWardington Жыл бұрын
at least they took the gun away before he could kill anyone else i guess...
@aceshigh5157
@aceshigh5157 Жыл бұрын
based on the outcome the parents didn't deal with the fact that at least their eldest had a mental illness. interesting that the parents suspected that their youngest did the killing. can the parents be charged for negligence?
@antjobert
@antjobert Жыл бұрын
​@@DWardington I was just thinking that if they haven't taken the gun away, their son probably would've succeeded in killing the cop at the bottom of the stairs when he came down. But he only had a knife, so the cop had a chance.
@wendys390
@wendys390 Жыл бұрын
@@aceshigh5157 Once people become adults, they are responsible for their own actions. The parents only suspected, did not have proof, but took the gun away anyway. Besides, suing for negligence? This is not a business or a contractural relationship. Once we are adults, our parents are no longer obligated to save us from ourselves. No doubt they would do if they could, but a grown man or woman does not blame their parents for their own bad behavior.
@wendys390
@wendys390 Жыл бұрын
@@DWardington Absolutely. They did what they could. They're just human, and can't save their children forever.
@bEtHeGoOdYoUwIsH2SeE
@bEtHeGoOdYoUwIsH2SeE 2 ай бұрын
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD SOMEONE SO VIOLENT GET A BOND?!!
@susandale5767
@susandale5767 Жыл бұрын
This is crazy!!!! I lived in Acworth for over 25 years and never heard of anything like this. So sad. Love ya!!!
@sillymamacita3854
@sillymamacita3854 Жыл бұрын
That officer did an amazing job of de-escalation. Highly impressed. Thankful he survived!! Poor guy. 😢 so sad and awful that there are so, so many victims in this case.
@wendigo1919
@wendigo1919 Жыл бұрын
Well, he made a great effort. but there was no de-escalating that situation unfortunately. That son was on a mission.. likely wanting suicide by officer, which is what he got. Of course wanting to do as much harm as he could before that happened.
@SugarandSarcasm
@SugarandSarcasm Жыл бұрын
@@wendigo1919 are you talking about the son (and cop) that died, or the other son (and cop) who lived?
@davidrenton
@davidrenton Жыл бұрын
@@wendigo1919 i'm surprised he didn't have his gun ready, it was a home invasion and an obvious ambush
@ewarrior9776
@ewarrior9776 Жыл бұрын
I am not surprised. He has the skin color for desescalation.
@davidrenton
@davidrenton Жыл бұрын
@@ewarrior9776 you do know young white men are the demographic most likely to be shot by police in the US, above every other single demographic. if he was a young black man, there would be LESS chance he would be shot by the Police. Look at the actual data and stop believing racist propaganda
@maryannfascetti6421
@maryannfascetti6421 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike something was seriously wrong with these boys. So sad about the couple that lost their lives. Heartbreaking.
@lora8706
@lora8706 Жыл бұрын
Hope you take time out daily for your mental health. These morbid events could end up weighing heavily on your heart. Thank you, for all the time, research and comedic relief you put into your work, our stories....😁
@paigebarker1468
@paigebarker1468 Жыл бұрын
I definitely feel like he was trying to avenge his brother with the murders, thinking/hoping it was Phillip. But as for the attack on the officer, that seems to me like he was trying to go out just like his brother as well. Trying to lure the officer upstairs was creepy as hell, like genuinely scary if I'm being honest. But I think he was definitely planning on luring the officer upstairs, stabbing/killing him, and then shooting himself with the officer's gun just like his brother... very glad the officer survived and that Matthew didn't get the chance to write his own little action scene like Austin did.
@candicel3224
@candicel3224 Жыл бұрын
Wow! What an insane story and this is only what little is known at this point. Imagine how much more will eventually be revealed. What would cause 2 brothers to go nuts and murder people? Really curious about the parents.
@keva94
@keva94 Жыл бұрын
The parents should hold some accountability. They both knew their both sons had mental health issues and decided do nothing. You can tell the had an "oh sh*t" moment when they were to check if the other son had something to do with the double murder
@dawnadevine1618
@dawnadevine1618 Жыл бұрын
Not the parents' fault.
@WonderWhatHappened
@WonderWhatHappened Жыл бұрын
@@dawnadevine1618 Perhaps but Austin was not suppose to have possession of firearm and his dad did take it away but gave it back to him. He has blood on his hands for sure.
@tessaducek5601
@tessaducek5601 Жыл бұрын
They hold some responsibility. But both boys were adults.
@WonderWhatHappened
@WonderWhatHappened Жыл бұрын
@Bea Strong Well I think as a parent who paid for the bond of their son, not give him back his firearm while on probation (which was a condition) thus it could have prevented him from going to Washington and kill himself with the gun.
@DrDeathpwnsu
@DrDeathpwnsu 11 ай бұрын
I'm completely flabbergasted. How do you interact beforehand so much with these people without realizing it wasn't the same people? Evil I can handle. Dumb I can handle. But to be both, to this degree, just earns a special place of contempt in my heart.
@user-gy9ec6nk3e
@user-gy9ec6nk3e 2 ай бұрын
This is my cousin and her husband that were killed. They had just moved in and Matthew was away at college. He didn’t live at home with his parents so he had never met my family members. We do wonder if once he got in the house, did he realize the error and still kill them. We arent sure if he has ever met the previous owners since he was living in Athens and I don’t think they had been living in the house long either. So many questions that we still need answers to.
@Negrodomaus
@Negrodomaus Жыл бұрын
Eliza was the real MVP. She was like "oh you watch me in the bathroom...that's a nope." 🏃‍♀
@pinkrexx
@pinkrexx Жыл бұрын
Lots of well deserved love for you in these comments Mike ❤️ Thank you so much for giving us a reason to look forward to Tuesday and sharing these stories. We appreciate you ❤✨
@woutervanlent5181
@woutervanlent5181 Жыл бұрын
Indeed , I appreciate him very much . Hard worker .
@LovenEverythingNails
@LovenEverythingNails Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine giving birth to not one but two murdering psychopaths. That is terrififying - what a wild and sad story.
@heyysimone
@heyysimone Жыл бұрын
The conversation on the staircase made me feel ill, it was like watching a car crash happen. You know the end result but you cant stop it. When he asked "are you scared" i literally said "yes, very" like he was asking me!
@Brenda-qe2ug
@Brenda-qe2ug Жыл бұрын
I was on the edge of my seat watching this one. And I am so sorry for the victims, all such innocent and good people. I hope he gets locked up. He doesn't look too mentally challenged but hey, you just cannot tell. Thank you Mike, another brilliantly told story.
@karlamae7700
@karlamae7700 Жыл бұрын
@Brenda I didn't know that mentally challenged had 'a look'. Could you enlighten us...what does mentally challenged look like? And no, you cannot tell...so maybe don't assume that you can tell someones mental health condition or lack there of by how they look physically. Afterall you know what you're doing when you assume something...making an ASS out of U and ME.
@cuddlecakes7153
@cuddlecakes7153 Жыл бұрын
We need better mental health awareness and care. I kind of feel like the parents are partially responsible for not getting him help, but at the same time they seem be complaint and seem somewhat sad
@Joelswinger34
@Joelswinger34 Жыл бұрын
We also need better discipline. These kids were aholes. Matthew wasn't sick, he was just a pos.
@tessaducek5601
@tessaducek5601 Жыл бұрын
Cliché monger
@nia4842
@nia4842 Жыл бұрын
The parents knew more than they let on. If something happened to my parents' neighbors, they're not driving to me to ask me if I had anything to do with it unless they had reason to believe so.
@cay75
@cay75 Жыл бұрын
Another well done video. Keep it up, I watch your vids while getting ready for work so you make it bearable, thank you. Love ya
@theheartlessknight2426
@theheartlessknight2426 Жыл бұрын
Well... It's a little hard to figure out exactly how I feel about this one. There was just so much wrong on so many levels. Not just weird, but senseless and tragic. My love goes to the Hicks Family and the loved ones of Officer Gonzales. Thanks for the coverage Mike. Take care of yourself, because we love you.
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