The Case of Timmothy Pitzen

Timmothy Pitzen disappeared in 2011, after being taken away by his mother, Amy. She left a note saying he was safe, and he has never been seen, and is still missing. In 2019 a man named Brian Rini became involved in the story, in the most unusual way. This is the story of Timothy Pitzen.
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[@huffleclawhouse7326]

That clip of the dad talking about how he thought his son was still out there, being homeschooled in the middle of nowhere, is the saddest thing on this whole channel :/

[@DigitalxCringe]

Not as sad as when the dad finding his two deal children, not being able to give CPR so he attempting to give them air from blowing into the holes on their chest. (forgot that name of the video)

[@michellephoenix9377]

@@DigitalxCringe darlie routier

[@Marru987]

@@DigitalxCringe I don’t think events like that should even be compared.

[@whitedragoness23]

@@DigitalxCringe Any case of a child dying is sad and tragic, there is no well this case was sadder, no this one was worse. These are lives not a competition.

[@SuperScottCrawford]

When someone you know is missing, hope is a cruel lover.

[@PassTheMarmalade1957]

"Amy's family and husband James said she would never hurt her son, the son she loved so much." Unfortunately, plenty of people have killed someone who they insist they loved more than anyone else in the world.

[@whitedragoness23]

That’s the sad truth, and it’s not out of love. Some people seem to excuse her behavoir of killing him as if the kid wasn’t the victim. People need to wake up and realize some people don’t make good parents and will harm their kids.

[@lindamaemullins5151]

😢

[@Juanhernandez-zx7kt]

Chris Benoit.

[@mael2039]

especially in the case where it's combined with a suicide. Parents often take their children with them when they commit suicide, and this happens with parents who adored and loved their children. I know two siblings whose mother tried to kill them along with herself, but was stopped by someone being in the right place at the right time. the mother was institutionalised in a mental hospital and commited suicide upon her release. the family still maintains that the mother loved their children very much. She was horribly suicidal and in a psychotic episode. Everyone, always, said that she was a loving and caring mother, but she would have killed them if not for someone interfering.

[@stuffroom979]

That's what makes these cases so mind boggling to me. I just can't wrap my mind around it.

[@karolineCPH]

She killed Timothy and arranged things so that his father would never get any closure. That is beyond cruel.

[@nothankyouthanksforasking]

@Keith Sergent If she killed him, then the existence of supervised visits are obviously needed. Children can't just be left alone with an unstable or mentally ill parent so they, I don't know, don't end up missing and presumably dead for example.

[@Pegasus856]

@ Keith Sergeant Changed to what? She ultimately proved why it wasn't safe for her to have custody of a child

[@AB-uz1tl]

@Keith Sergent I don't think the law needs to be changed for a mentality ill and dangerous depression type of person to get easier access to their child.

[@AB-uz1tl]

@Keith Sergent No I'm saying people that are deranged like this woman doesn't need full or equal custody. It's all based on context of how healthy the parent is. Not every sad and disturbed parent is going to be treated the same way. Clearly laws don't need to be changed in a way for a woman like this to have too much custody of her child and anyone that thinks otherwise is clearly an idiot. The safety of children from mentality ill people isn't an opinion.

[@k0rppi259]

@Keith Sergent I get your point but after your first reply I'm thinking there might be a reason you had to fight for your child and I hope that you aren't gonna kill him when you have to take him back to his mothers house.

[@jobione3620]

It’s just heartbreaking how many children pay the price for parental dysfunction 😢

[@misterijeSREBRNA]

You are totally right... That is so important topic but who cares?

[@colinhunter1954]

Too often a child ends up paying for a parent"s mental sickness.

[@shmiqqy]

makes these kinds of videos hard to watch tbh, whether they're little shits or lovely kids they don't deserve to experience these kinds of fears, it's horrible

[@yahweh1x543]

Abort, before it gets this far.

[@darkdivergrandahl4913]

yes the children

[@williamglaser6577]

Having lost my own son, I can appreciate the father's anguish. May God give him Peace.

[@dae4444]

And u as well 🙏🏾

[@stephanie5249]

I’m so sorry for your loss. I hope your heart finds moments of peace.

[@marikadolinsky9912]

I'm so sorry for your loss.

[@aperson5428]

is ituzlodr esfesesf

[@comun8110]

I'm sorry for your loss I wish you well

[@ThetaZord]

Damnit, that father must have been going through hell. I hope he finds his son.

[@smokedoubt1262]

In Possibilities the kids gone sad to say

[@ts6908]

@Reviewing With bob real edgy boye

[@gretebremseth1622]

Reviewing With bob Get some help! You need it!

[@lordrosswaldeaterofcheeks6466]

@Marksten Stop trying to be an edgy piece of human garbage.

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Unlikely

[@cocolime6496]

people who kidnap their children or kill them to spite their exes make me so angry. the height of pure selfishness 😠

[@ishenicole9987]

ABSOLUTELY TRUE...

[@johndoe-cm9qe]

Agreed... But to do that probably means a serious mental break down has occurred and when that happens rational thoughts are not happening.

[@cocolime6496]

@@johndoe-cm9qe i realise that these people aren't thinking rationally, but they're still driven by a very selfish motive. they only think about what they want, not the happiness or well-being of their children.

[@johndoe-cm9qe]

@@cocolime6496 I work with the mentally ill and it's natural for a parent to have unconditional love for there child you would die for then. So to kill them goes against nature and rational thought so to call them spiteful or selfish i think is wrong. When people act out of the normal its easy to say what a arsehole and so on, but no one want to be one, most of the time its a mental problem they have and cant control mixed with being a product of there environment. lets agree to disagree and let me state i believe hurting mentally or physically a child is the worse crime you can do and refuse to believe someone of sound mind would do that. Happy Fathers day by the way.

[@cocolime6496]

@@johndoe-cm9qe there are plenty of parents in the world who love their children to death but still do a poor job of looking after them and practise a very selfish kind of love. dying for your children is natural and admirable, but how does that fit with killing them? taking them away from the other parent they love? from the life they have and are happy with? i don't know why you're bringing mental illness into it. not all mentally ill parents are homicidal (in fact most are not but i assume you know this), and not all bad parents are mentally ill - in fact bad parenting and selfishness has little to do with mental illness. it sounds like you're trying to downplay the responsibility of people like this woman just because of their mental illness, which is a dangerous rhetoric. and before you jump to school me on mental illness: I've had depression and anxiety for over 10 years, probably since I was a child. my parents are abusive. i talk to people online with various illnesses. i like to read up and inform myself on different types of mental illnesses, and have a fascination with crime. mental illness does not excuse or make bad people. we are all still accountable for our actions.

[@cokaneds]

He's obviously dead. "he belongs to me. He will never be found, he's with people who love him". That almost always means they're dead and the ones "keeping him safe" are angels in heaven. It's both a bad lie to keep loved ones and investigators from pursuing further and for the killer to rationalise that what they did was just.

[@NikkiC777]

That is probably what happened. 😢very sad. How could a mother do that? It is unimaginable. It is really awful too for the rest of the family they can't have any closure.

[@birdrustler]

Yeah. Unfortunately all signs point to the mom doing it, and then lying in the note because she didn't want to be remembered solely as a child killer. Pretty tragic stuff.

[@darkwoods1954]

Exactly, the way she referred to him like her property shows her attitude towards him. No way she'd then just leave him with someone else. She'd rather he be dead.

[@Riku-hg9ke]

It's likely, but that doesn't mean to give up on the boy when there's a possibility. Nothing is "obvious" unless you have verifiable proof.

[@zazombiezmasher0116]

YourEvilTwin No need to be aggressive there bud. She was mentally unstable and would have not fully understood what she did and in trying to come to terms with it would have said something that doesn’t make sense more than likely. No need to call him a smartass for expressing his opinion

[@mandymoore5774]

The aunt made a solid point, the fake Timothy DID get the original boys face back out and circling.

[@JW-vd4il]

As horrible as it was for Timothy's family, I also feel bad for the "fake Timothy." He was clearly disturbed. Imagine being someone like that and wishing you had a family that loved you as much as Tim's did. I don't think he did it out of malice. Just a very sad case.

[@theresanolan1157]

@@JW-vd4il I agree.

[@katiec4947]

Can you imagine the hope his dad must have had after hearing his son might have been spotted only to find out it was someone pretending to be him? His heart was already broken enough. 😞

[@michaelpipkin9942]

I can't imagine. Would I just be broken again beyond anything? Or would I wanna REALLY hurt this guy. It can't be both.

[@I.am.Mrs.Mathers]

That broke MY heart for him. I wonder if there’s been any updates on this case..

[@jacquelinesmart2260]

Let this be a lesson to everyone who is considering having a child with somebody. You gotta realize the lives of your future children will be the result of the choice of partner you make.

[@jorgebarranco8640]

Very good point and that talks very good about you!!!!!

[@jayjoy2536]

very true.. But the only people accept your lesson seriously are those who love their family member, not the people who treat their child shit

[@luisrivera6345]

Don't I know it. Had 3 kids with a girl, she cheated on me. And left me on my son's birthday. But im the problem. Cheaters will always be cheaters.

[@bari2883]

Yes I wish I knew this before I moved 500kms to have an arse of a man be in my sons life. He added nothing to the care and influence of growing him into a beautiful kind young man that he is today.

[@jennajune2101]

Sometimes you don’t ever know who the person *really is* until it’s too late. Not just speaking murder, any abuse can be kept a secret for years, which is how a lot of covert narcissists operate.

[@e.s.l5861]

That poor Dad, I can only imagine how crushing it was to have hopes lifted only to get pranked

[@philipsmi-lenguyen8155]

IKR,I would honestly kill myself if nefin happened to me boy.

[@philipsmi-lenguyen8155]

@Journeystomake Alkebulan no,I was saying if I was to lose my son then I wouldn't have anything else to live for.And i wouldn't even know how to go on and keep living if he wasn't in my life.i'd be crushed.i know what u mean tho.how it wouldn't help the situation and might even makes things worse for all our loved 1's tho.

[@matteframe]

Too bad Ashton Kutcher didn't jump out.

[@bennupp2142]

It was actually a social experiment, not a prank.

[@abelis644]

@@philipsmi-lenguyen8155 Suicide is NEVER, EVER, an answer to ANYTHING. NEVER THINK IT IS. Suicide ALWAYS hurts those who are left behind. It is a terrible, useless thing to do.

[@nursebev2249]

So sad when parents use their children as pawns.

[@HK_Musician]

@Joe Piss Pants Biden yeah prawns are shellfish

[@BakedBrain7100]

I think personally she planned on killing herself all along and the reason she possibly killed him in her mind she didn’t want to leave him without a mother, she didn’t want him to blame himself for her suicide and their divorce so she thought she was protecting him this way. Mental illness can really distort your mindset.

[@yvonnejacko5644]

Very sad.....know that they all answer to God at some point.......

[@scottyboy7462]

That poor father. Heartbreaking what that man must go through every single minute of every single day for years.

[@jonzgurl4ever]

I think a very sad fact is this little guy is dead....she took him to all these places to give him a last happy day. What a sick woman and even sicker to put the dad through this.

[@almightyandz323]

Is that an actress in you profile picture

[@sandracapillo409]

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[@ProudDad1976]

I'm a Dad and honestly, if this happened to me, I'm not strong enough to endure what his Dad has. I give him a lot of credit for not giving up hope.

[@FearedTheory]

@UNABOMBER MANIFESTO brutal

[@Deadriser]

@UNABOMBER MANIFESTO Shocking username with your teenage edginess.

[@FearedTheory]

@UNABOMBER MANIFESTO I was about to say not many 12 year olds know about the Unabomber salty ass demonrats

[@FearedTheory]

@@ultrah1gh hes a 12 year old that joined youtube in 2011, making him the first 3 year old to make their own youtube account right?

[@FearedTheory]

@UNABOMBER MANIFESTO manifestos in general are crazy to read through, I've only skimmed the Unabomber one but I'm more keen on giving it a second look seeing as its important enough to take the place of your username.

[@greyline1012]

Mike you have such a great ability to narrate a story and condense it in such a short time. Heart wrenching but told phenomenally. Thanks for this.

[@ColorMeShell]

Totally agreed!!!! Fantastic ability! Thx Mike for all u do

[@underestimatedsmilin2429]

Agree!

[@gj6209]

Well said! I agree!

[@cautionTosser]

agreed. i've only just discovered him and i am hooked.

[@HenryTheOunce]

She murdered him and lied about him being somewhere safe as she couldn't even admit to killing him even as she was about to end her own life.

[@jazbarry13]

She's a coward.

[@ahnahstahjah]

I feel the same about this. She seemed like she was at the end of her rope and felt it was better to give him a good day before ending it. Very sad.

[@rocketamadeus3730]

@@ahnahstahjah What a bitch.

[@standrews100]

-Bang on the money,,,she killed him then herself,,,a note saying he is safe means nothing

[@demonjmh]

And sadly the father is in denial but I don't blame him I'd have a hard time accepting that someone I once loved killed our child

[@skydaddy9104]

He is most likely dead. There’s just so many things pointing to that outcome. The fact that her vehicle had grassland tracings on it indicates that she probably drove in a filed and buried him and the fact that she said he would never be found and that he’s safe and that she took him to a resort (for his last moments) just proves my point.

[@pulaski1]

"Most likely"? Personally, I don't think there's a shadow of a doubt that he's dead.

[@franciosdauteuil4626]

The cold fact is she murdered her own son because she knew she would lose custody and treated him as a possession of hers as seen in the texts to the husbands brother. She killed him and locked up or buried his remains somewhere and would not tell because even in death she wanted to possess him. She chose to kill him instead and then herself because she was too petty to allow her son to live without being the reason for the sun to rise and set in his world. That is sick.

[@pretorious700]

Thanks, Professor Obvious.

[@skydaddy9104]

pretorious700 someone’s pressed lmao

[@IMakeVideos019]

The Fact He's Out There *Alone* Somewhere Is Just *Heartbreaking* 💔

[@kathykelleyskillercontent1795]

Seeing that little boy on video knowing it was the last time just broke my heart. Poor little guy, so wrong.

[@paulanovelli5805]

That was insufferable. I felt the same way. Lil chap just following his mummy to his demise. What a cxnt. Sorry. But if the shit shoe fits

[@suddenrushsarge]

So he was likely dumped between Wisconsin Dells and Rockford. Well the Wisconsin River is along that route. It's a sandy river that would bury/hide a body quite easily. :(

[@Kommandor942]

First hand experience? 🤔

[@damnmuggle]

@@Kommandor942 lol

[@dumnylach]

@@Kommandor942 Nope , brain in skull.

[@thejudgmentalcat]

I don't think he's still alive. She "sent him to be with angels" or some such delusion she had.

[@brandysigmon9066]

@@thisismecantuseeitsacz5823 He's dead, she probably put him in a dumpster . CZ's are trash.

[@kaidengathings3096]

@@CaveDDECanem You pulled an "Uno Reverse" on him. HA oh God thats the best thing I've seen in awhile.

[@deltabravolima1514]

If she killed this little boy, then he is with the angels. But for Amy, well....

[@thisismecantuseeitsacz5823]

@@kaidengathings3096 your sick too lashing out and laughing at sick people go see a doctor they can help you and Alaska Y'all might get a discount on 2 visits have a nice day

[@kaidengathings3096]

@@thisismecantuseeitsacz5823 I don't even remember what you were saying because you deleted your comments. Don't say things you can't stick by.

[@jasminehenderson7687]

Watching the dad image how his son might look like 8 years later is so heartbreaking

[@michaeldee2894]

For real. I guess hope is good it just seems for nothing since he's most likely gone . ugh so sad please god where is this little boy i hope he's healthy

[@luispaz3080]

I’m from aurora and I remember being in sixth grade when this all happened. I remember the impact he had in our community, even to this day. Thank you for putting some light on his case so it won’t be forgotten. I have always hoped he would be found eventually but deep down I have a feeling that the worst possible outcome is what actually happened. As a dad I cant possibly imagine what losing a child must feel like. Prayers to his family.

[@lapacker]

Did they really have to run a DNA test on that bearded guy claiming to be fourteen who looks at least thirty?

[@jimmy56100]

@Chris Kibodeaux that stubble is pretty hard to miss.

[@christine2952]

Lmaoooooo!

[@yakacm]

They might have thought he was Greek, lol.

[@Carolina_57]

I was thinking the same. Wtf

[@brandonstephens1447]

Ya wtf he looks wayyy older

[@chaserichardson1591]

What kind of weirdo posses as a kid that has been missing for years knowing full well you are not going to get away with it..

[@gayledimitri5887]

Huffleclaw House I saw that one! That was crazy. Even crazier that his eye color was different, and was saying his eyes were transplanted. Omg!

[@damagecontrol7]

an ex con lowlife

For every lie 50 lashes! How often will he lie after that? Any bets?

[@foreversocal1]

@ let's start w politicians

[@TheMouseAvenger]

+B Me The one with George C. Scott, or the one with Angelina Jolie?

[@yelloworangered]

This was posted 5 minutes ago and has 12 comments and 145 views. Now, that's a well loved channel!

[@debrapaulsonphotography-da4857]

Also a bat-cr*p crazy case, in Chicago we've been following this mess since it happened in 2011. Such high hopes when that "kid" was found claiming he was Timothy. Takes a special kind of madness to claim you are a missing child and raise the family's hopes so high.

[@greatskytrollantidrama4473]

Yes we follow blindly

[@briangray925]

an hour later, now has 173 comments and 4640 views. (plus 575 likes)

[@smirky-shrugs]

I predict that by tomorrow this video will have twenty *tree* hundred likes and be the *turd* most interesting video I've watched this week.

[@miikkahursti7853]

It sure is...

[@nickykeightley1724]

Timothy's dad must truly be beside himself. I do hope that there will be a resolution to this.

[@bananasinfrench]

I hope he can find resolution, as well. I can’t even imagine the pain he’s been put through

[@Andrea1542]

Mike you have grown so much as a presenter since your earlier videos! It's 2022 as I'm writing and watching your older videos it's shows how much more confident and comfortable you have become on camera! You are by far my favorite KZbin, and there are so many I really love a ton, but you're the best of them all!

[@bubblegums100]

This is one of those cases where, as a parent myself and , finding my son dead would have been easier than not ever knowing where he was. So sad!

[@jennifermaddy2442]

It would be awful not knowing but where his son is but that's how the mother left it so her ex would be left wondering for the rest of his life

[@ChairmanMeow21]

I feel bad for the family. Goes on to show how mental health can affect not only the one suffering but also the people around them. I hope discussing and asking for help is not considered ‘weak’ anymore. But Mike. Thank you for bringing this story to us.

[@jaxxoceans3866]

Speaking from much experience, you will NEVER be helped by the NHS mental health system. They just lie to u n let u down n do not do SHIT to help you. I Swear ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.. Its such a terriable system so ask8ng for help actually makes u feel more confused lonely and abandoned.

[@Reddbeaver]

You add just enough commentary to this case- without spoiling the end or boringly dictating the events. Keep up the great work mike!

[@lexirae7889]

What an awful thing to do to Timothy Pitzen's dad 😱

[@SueMead]

*+Lexi Rae* I'm not going to make excuses for the individual that claimed he was Timothy Pitzen. However, I will say that it's not all together surprising that there are some desperate people that will grasp any possible straw to improve their miserable existence. There are many children in North America (not to mention the entire planet) that will do anything in an attempt to make themselves feel like their existence matters. Contemplate, if you will, just what it must feel like to be completely alone and at the mercy of the world. Then, imagine what it must be like to be a little kid trying to survive under such trying circumstances. What would you do?

[@mork6668]

It was indeed... But Jussie Smolett just did something as hideous and he went home a free man!!

[@quietdignityandgrace]

Well, at least Rini will soon actually be a sex traffic victim. Prison has it's rules.

[@matteframe]

Smollett will get his one way or another... Karmas's a biatch.

[@lexirae7889]

@@SueMead : A teenager with so little empathy for the father of a missing boy gets zero sympathy from me for his (hypothetical) personal circumstances.. there is simply no excuse for this.

[@MrsznewyawkRN]

She killed him before she killed herself - she wanted her husband to SUFFER the rest of his life CONSTANTLY WANDERING where he is - that is true evil 🤷🏽‍♀️💯😞

[@mromatic17]

Yeah the saddest thing is he truly believes that he’s still out there!

[@rantersparadise]

SO MUCH!!

[@blackambrosia24kcorporatio32]

😖🤦😫

[@nelixsulu6201]

And what pisses me off is people, especially women, think women aren’t capable of that kind of evil. When it comes to relationships I don’t take neither the man nor the woman’s side cause I know both sides can be at fault!

[@Julia-yn5xh]

*wondering Wandering involves aimless traveling

[@theblurredcrusade.2557]

I went through a similar situation at the same age, luckily my father took me away from the situation and I grew up OK ish, the thing is if Timothy was still alive he'd have know everything that has gone on with his mother leaving him with different people and obviously missing his father, so once he got to the age where he became independent he'd have gone looking for his father, this kid is no longer alive and it's so sad for all involved 😪

[@xxbodycountxx7626]

This channel should be MUCH bigger. Love it, Mike. Keep it up.

[@itswhatyoumakeit6950]

SO TRUE! I second that sentiment! 💞🌠🌟💫🌌

[@65sheilakay]

My gut tells me the Mother killed this precious child,and his body has not been found. I hope I'm wrong though...

[@nozoto]

I find it strange though because in these cases of family drama ending in suicide, the other's body isn't concealed (so well they're never discovered after perimeter search, to boot). It's not a behavior congruent with that of a killing suicidal person. If she wanted her son to join her in the afteralife, she'd have kept him close and they'd have been found together. I don't think Timmothy's dead, on my part. She could have entrusted him to a most trusted acquaintance in between going at this location alone. Why she changed of tshirt? She may have taken a long shower, as well. Makes sense, mostly if she felt dirty and shitty for having lost grip so much in her family life. She was obviously mentally and emotionally disturbed. And it takes a lucid and methodical mind to think about a good enough place to hide a corpse, eventually dig a grave etc...

[@kristinakarpf5346]

I think she killed him. The reason why she didn't commit suicide next to timmothys body was so he would never be found. Because she hated her husband so much so out of spite and to make him suffer till the day he died she exacted control over him by hiding their sons body. Or she didn't plan on suicide at first then after hiding him she decided to.

[@SarelleSirius]

I remember feeling annoyed with how many people actually believed that man was Timothy. The boy is clearly dead. This is a tragic story but there’s no chance Timothy is alive.

[@MichoacanaRobertson]

They should look for Timothy’s grave around where her phone was found. Pretty sure she might have drop her phone while burying him. There’s no way that kid is still alive, he was already gone on the evening footage of her on her own. This is so sad, some people should never be allowed to be parents 😢

[@whitedragoness23]

That frustrates me, if I was them I would check for car tracks, trails, near water and grass. Look for recent burials and up former dirt and do such a search that no piece of dirt was left unturned But I do believe the phone is close to where she buried him

[@jenniferlafountain587]

Can't they look at the the evidence that was on the tires and outside of the vehicle to try and pin point where she stopped? Like i know they have done this before they found these weeds and dirt on the tires and under a vehicle to pinpoint an area where they were bc some things only grow in certain areas or figure out when her phone last pinged off of around the time she didn't have her son with her

[@pulaski1]

@@jenniferlafountain587 Sometimes it works, but not always - it depends on the local geology and flora - in an area of intensive agriculture the material stuck to tires and bodywork may be "specific" to an area of many miles.

[@Ciotog-m4g]

Who do you think should make that determination who is allowed to have kids and who can't. Do you really want that oppressive of a government to tell people if they can have a family?

[@Ciotog-m4g]

@@pulaski1 allowed to have kinds? Kinds of what?

[@steviehuterisrad17]

My heart goes out for the dad. I really hope they find him so he can get closure.

[@hiko73]

So GD sad. Thanks for updating us on this case. I really, truly hope the family gets some closure soon. xoxo

[@narnzipan]

Hey Mike... You have no idea how close to home this story is for me right now. Hats off to you for creating such an informative 12 minute show, creating thousands if not hundreds of thousands of conversations about this boy. You've done a beautiful thing Mike. X

[@alysskennedy8661]

Why wouldn’t she say what happened??? The ultimate narcissist!!!

[@damagecontrol7]

do you have a manson tattoo

[@anntrejo]

To torture her ex

[@alysskennedy8661]

@@damagecontrol7 I do.

[@angelined9814]

Here's the old narcissist labeling. You folks and that fuckin buzzword. You love saying it, don't ya?

[@jesusisgod4992]

@@angelined9814 I studied narcissism and she looks like a narcissist to me. It's in her eyes. She's vindictive and evil. Female narcs have similar, symmetrical, kind of close set eyes for some reason.

[@winifredjones300]

Mike you handled this story with dignity. In Australia this is Mental Health awareness Day.

[@leemeyers5335]

Personally, as someone who suffers from depression myself, what she did was not just "self-destructive". I believe she was punitive in her final act; angry about her lack of control over the situation and, believing she "owned" Timmothy, she destroyed everything so that it could never be "owned" by anyone else. Perhaps she thought she was doing the right thing and perhaps I'm cynical, but judging by the way she spoke about her son and her actions that followed, it's really hard for me to believe that she didn't intend some malice. I'd have to know what exactly the mental health issues were though...

[@whitedragoness23]

No she didn’t love him, if she did she wouldn’t have killed him. That’s proof enough. She saw him as a pawn, a thing, something she owned and if she lost it then she would destroy it so no one could ever take it from her That’s not love at all, that’s being evil, selfish, spiteful and she was a sorry piece of trash who used her own child.

[@franciosdauteuil4626]

re-response from another comment but useful here as well: The cold fact is she murdered her own son because she knew she would lose custody and treated him as a possession of hers as seen in the texts to the husbands brother. She killed him and locked up or buried his remains somewhere and would not tell because even in death she wanted to possess him. She chose to kill him instead and then herself because she was too petty to allow her son to live without being the reason for the sun to rise and set in his world. That is sick.

[@TheToriger]

Binge watch your videos last few days, helps through some rough days... Thanks for you work , man :) P.S. just love your Irish accent

[@brodyharris7631]

Amen Sis

[@approachinggnosis4613]

I think he's a maritimer, not Irish

[@zerozero7158]

Hope everything is going well for you now, all the best for you

[@kanyeeast1340]

Shoulders squared, chin up sis. I pray your well

[@isabelbell559]

APPROACHING GNOSIS I think (tink). You are absolutely correct......a Newfie ...no doubt, why he won't admit it I don't know.....too bad, a good show

[@joeford860]

After a hard days work a new video, I saw this on the news and I could even tell this guy was not 14 year's old. Excellent work as usual.

[@Big_Tex]

Maybe the impostor should have shaved before claiming to be 14 years old?

[@Connor_Stefanick]

Eh, I'm 14 and I have a scruffy beard and have had to shave my upper lip every week since 11 years old, so he ain't THAT stupid.

[@Connor_Stefanick]

Well he still is stupid, but yeah.

[@t-rexgamer1018]

@@Connor_Stefanick me too I haven't shaved since summer started and I have a full beard

[@godmachine8207]

By 14 I had a patchy beard and 16 a full and thick beard, it depends on the person.

[@ivanmedina9133]

maybe the boy in the pic is actually him, but the cops covered it up because they are involved in the child sex ring

[@kitsunerinkan]

I absolutely love the amount of compassion you have for the victims, their families, and those who suffer and struggle with mental illness. You are an amazing person, Mike.

[@ManamalReacts]

I would never marry a man or woman who was already married 3 times prior. Hello people RED FLAG. No you will not be the one where it will work out.

[@honiahakaa]

exactly like why

[@pulaski1]

My thoughts _EXACTLY!_

[@Lukemasonmedia]

Seriously, they’re clearly the problem

[@luv4songsonly]

Damn, Ross would be upset to hear that...

[@luv4songsonly]

@@darby2956 ahaha I dont care for him much either - but there was a running joke in few of the episodes where he was worried that being divorced 3 times would make him undateable so I was referring to that

[@hel3319]

She killed her son. She is a selfish person. I am so angry about this. Poor boy.

[@MrLorincombs]

m.e. watteau same here, she’s a pile of garbage

[@CanItAlready]

m.e. watteau He did say she had mental health issues and was possibly delusional. This isn't quite a case of a parent throwing his child of a bridge to hurt the child's mother which has also happened. It's tragic, yes, but it doesn't sound like she did this to be evil. Honestly it sounds like she shouldn't have been allowed to take him out of school the way she did. Like the Andrea Yates case, where the family knew she had mental health issues and still left her alone with the children.

[@hel3319]

@@CanItAlready So? Still a selfish person and a selfish act! Doesn't matter how the child died. She killed the boy!

[@paradoxinyosocks104]

@@CanItAlready she had enough mental fortitude to lie on her suicide note to make it seem like her child is still alive somewhere and keep the living family's Hope's up so she doesn't just get remembered as a child killer. I think its inappropriate to downplay her own involvement in what she did

[@CanItAlready]

Paradox In Yo Socks And you know that she lied how? Apparently the police never found any evidence that she killed the boy. I think it's inappropriate to demonize this woman with such a lack of evidence of murder.

[@leapinglizard3937]

Little Pitzen is gone. You don't change you're clothes, before you take your own life. If Timmothy was given away, he more than likely would have popped up in the system at one point.

[@imjayeleeiwishiwereabillio9731]

not if he was given to a family who live in the amish community, or with some family who live off the grid and home school their children and dont allow their kids internet access unless a parent is with them to do school work.

[@Arionthelady]

I'm Jayelee I Wish I Were A Billionare by now he would have been able to come forward if he was alive tho

[@imjayeleeiwishiwereabillio9731]

@@Arionthelady if he is in the amish community, or a religous cult, he most likely wouldnt know he's "missing". he would have been raised being told who knows what about why his mum had to leave im there .they dont have tv or internet,or even newspaper access, their commune is literally all they know and have. so if he doesnt know he's missing, he cant come forward. his name could still be timothy but he could have been told his surname is something else. if he heard his whole real name, its likely he wouldnt reconize it, as he believes his name is something completely different.its a very interesting case, with quite a few "may be's" and "could be's" around many possibilities.

[@roseaduke8835]

@@imjayeleeiwishiwereabillio9731 Nah. There are no 'maybes' & 'could6-bes' here at all. At least, I don't see it. -------------- He was 7 & not 2years old at the time, you know? He already knew his full name. He knew his father's identity clearly. He knew his routine. So definitely he would've known that something was wrong when she didn't return him to school or his dad. She probably killed him when he kept asking to "go home"? She expected him to be at home with her automatically-cuz she's the mom- despite her erratic behaviour & obvious incapability to be the mother he needed or wanted to be with. She knew it wasn't going to work or last. L9oks like in the end, the child didn't want to stay with her. So he had to die. ---------------- Anyways, she already said the boy would "never be found", so let's just accept it & quit the lalaland theories!

[@beverlydevry6985]

This story is beyond heartbreaking. I think her telling James brother that "Timothy is MINE" speaks volumes. The other viewers that believe she killed Timothy, as he is safe with people who love him, are probably correct. If people decide to commit suicide, why take innocent people with you?!? Happens way too often...

[@hannahr.1164]

Still one of the saddest cases youve covered... Rest In Peace young Timothy 🙏 your dads' angel every day.

[@brandiea.h9684]

This is heartbreaking, I have a 7yr old son and I can't wrap my head around what his mother did 😢💔

[@samanthab.5344]

Truly heartbreaking 💔 , I hope one day his father finds closure. Thank you Mike for keeping his memory alive 🙏🏻

[@In_Sheep_Clothing]

Such a sad story.😪 I think videos like this help to keep children alive in society's mind. Another good one, Mike! 👍🙂

[@ThatChapter]

Thanks Lisa!

[@Wentr-z]

By her saying “he Belongs to me” makes me wonder why she would possibly give the child away?

[@godislove9307]

Good point!

[@matthewpool6508]

Yeah.

[@alisong799]

@Bethesda Skyrim wherever she's going, it's not where he's going.

[@whitedragoness23]

@@godislove9307 she was crazy, there’s no way she would let another person take care of him. This is the one case I wish was solved

[@mommy2libras]

That statement is exactly what makes me think she actually might have given him to someone. Because with that attitude, if she'd killed him she would have done it where they'd have ended up side by side- maybe overdosed him on sleeping pills and then herself or whatever.

[@TheZombifiedFairy]

I live in Illinois. I remember crying when it was discovered that that man was not that child... how sick do you have to be to pretend to be someone's missing, very much loved child?

[@TheZombifiedFairy]

@Moth’s Mummy yea, they didn't show his face for days to the public, all we had was a report about the possibility and then a few days later we see the pictures and get the heartbreak. I think they knew it wasn't him, I don't get why they reported it and got everyone's hopes up

[@PrincezzPeachez]

Mike, i love how you truly make the story come alive in your videos. You truly make this such an experience for your viewers. Love you!! ❤

[@jayl3322]

If I remember right they found a small amount of Timothy's blood in her car as well. I sadly think she killed him.

[@huffleclawhouse7326]

It seems like the only story which makes any sense...

[@glamdolly30]

They did find what police called 'a concerning amount' of blood inside the vehicle that was Timmothy's but a relative said it was almost certainly from a nosebleed. I think she'd be more likely to have strangled or smothered him than choose a bloody method anyway.

[@renataangelov9435]

How they never found him

[@comun8110]

The blood was from nosebleeds

[@hallierose36]

Mike gettin about 1,000 subs a day!! You deserve it boy!!!

[@brianr8581]

I've run out of your videos to watch, finishing with this one and I've watched em all!!! Loved everyone of them. Thx man.

[@faselessnobuddy]

That poor baby 💔 no caring mother would ever EVER harm her child for some selfish spoiled reason. May she rot in hell.

[@jacquelyn4374]

Literally haven't stopped watching since I found your channel

[@BenRai2k]

I am sure the son is dead. The way the mother is just walking ahead of him on that CCTV footage doesn't look particularly loving. Seems cold and disconnected. Any loving mum would be holding his hand and have him in front of the side of her.

[@XLNC616]

Well done you finally solved this case thank you.

[@jedizombie562]

So true... My daughter is 12 and I still make sure she's beside or at least where I can see her..

[@knowyourlove5613]

Good eye! I saw that also. And the boy is wringing his hands, showing stress. He knew. 🥺😢

[@testcalibre2507]

3:08 Timothy was basically running while the mother kept her pace ignoring her son's capability

"Any loving mum would be holding his hand and have him in front of the side of her." Nah this is bullshite. My mother is loving and she never held my hand.

[@mountzod]

Indeed a very sad case. Another fantastic video, Mike; great job bud!

[@ThatChapter]

Thanks pal!

[@MichaelGreen-dm2ov]

Great video Mike. It sad that this child's crazy mom may have killed him but his father's belief he is still alive is hart warming and I hope he is right. Please keep the great videos coming sir.

[@ThatChapter]

Will do!

[@MichaelGreen-dm2ov]

It has been pointed out to me that "Crazy" is not the proper term for the "Crazy Mom" in Mike's video. I wanted to change the term "Crazy" to a more medical term. From now on I will refer to Timmothy's Mom as "Nutjob".

[@FreddieK-h1u]

I’m so pleased mikes grown and come out of his shell in the years. These videos he’s so flat and emotionless ❤

[@karaamundson3964]

I started watching you in 2020. It's now 2022 and I'm jonesin' for more! The 2019 vids are turning out to be just the ticket. Who knew? Lovin' them!

[@LeanneFowler-ms5xc]

I have been watching That Chapter for about the same amount of time. I was watching in 2018 or so. He's a great story teller, isn't he?

[@ch3wt0y]

YES THIS IS THE VIDEO IVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!! god I’m so happy for this upload! Wonderful video as always

[@ThatChapter]

Hope it was worth it! :D

[@everydayiwin3487]

I love this channel I can see you hitting a mill by the end of this year keep popping video's out my boi

[@ThatChapter]

Thank you!

[@Pr3ttyMonster]

He did it

[@greatskytrollantidrama4473]

I always worry about putting my ideas about what happened. What happens when I get one right? Probably an uncomfortable encounter with a very suspicious investigator.

[@kanereeves4866]

I love your channel and this is by far your best report imo. You deliver it with respectable sensitivity

[@jackleyton5504]

I always forget to mention how much I enjoy your show. Im a song writer/music producer and asside from your show, I have to comment on the way you do the audio for your show is very impressive. Adds great feel and never gets in the way.

[@abomb6046]

Can you imagine what that father was going through? whoa

[@abomb6046]

@Kitten Lyric I couldn't begin to imagine.

[@abomb6046]

@Libby Berman ?

[@DrCareOLot]

You do a great justice for shading light on these stories 🇮🇪💚

[@211inprogress]

This story makes me very angry...

[@Nizhonibearcreek]

I lost my daughter to a drunk driver when she was 10 and I can totally relate to this fathers pain and anguish nothing hurts more you will never feel pain stronger , I lost my husband in Iraq and my mother and still nothing rocked my soul like losing my child .

[@aaliyahfurtadoxoxo]

My heart breaks for Timmy and his father... I can't imagine the pain of losing your baby and, I pray that Timmy is found safe.🙏🏽❤️

[@mindyourownbusiness1488]

Mike, I've read the Amish theory and they would love him and would definitely be hard to find him but if it was my son I would go to every Amish community in the U.S to find him. Maybe I'm pulling threads but it's worth a shot.

[@PinkKitten002]

Why would the Amish take in an English child at all let alone under suspicious circumstances? I'm genuinely curious, I've never heard of that theory but it makes 0 sense

[@jumpinjohnnyruss]

@@PinkKitten002 I dunno. You could probably tell them whatever you want about his upbringing and they have no way of checking to see if it's accurate. I don't think they read the papers.

[@faithcrump3498]

Your channel has quickly become one of my new favorites. You do such great work and have a natural talent for narration and commentary. Thanks for all the awesome content!

[@SeventhSamurai72]

Hey Mike, really enjoy these great posts! Thank you for your effort!

[@Bambino_3]

My stomach felt like it dropped inside my body watching this...

[@brittnienichole6]

This one is very hard.

[@ChaunceyDatGuy]

Love this channel plz keep uploading

[@colinarmstrong9590]

Good stuff Mike,its always awesome to get a "TC" upload early in the morning before work!👍😃👍🌟 Cheers Mike!🍺

[@JustRico_ofc]

Thank you for the amazing video as usual. You put so much effort in every single video you make that I am sure you will reach 100k first and than a million subscribers! Can't wait for that day

[@packnetadaija]

This case makes me so sad, I think it was a case where she killed Timothy before killing herself because she knew she wasn't going to get custody of him if they broke up. It's just sad that the father never had any closure. So sad :(

[@veganandlovingit]

Timothy was a beautiful little boy - so sad

[@ronrubicon1593]

"Amy, who had been divorced three times before..."

[@whitedragoness23]

I noticed that, sadly she should of just let her kid live with the father.

[@ElPajaroMosca]

I think you mean “tree” times before.

[@ashleighfallon7897]

@@ElPajaroMosca you're soooo funny u twat

[@bethmc95]

That should have been a huge red flag right there.

[@ceceanne4388]

@@viaaa03 I don’t think Irish people would feel bothered that someone points out they say ‘tree’

[@arkansasamber5965]

There was a 23 year old guy that did the same thing. He was pretending to be a boy named Nicholas Barclay from Texas. He was in Spain, went on the Missing and Exploited Children Website, found Nicholas’s info, found Nicholas’ family and convinced them to come get him. They did. He had a FRENCH ACCENT! The family wanted him back so bad they believed him. He lived with them. This was turned into a documentary called “The Imposter” on Netflix.

[@PerpetuallyIntroverted]

I appreciate you relaying this horrific nightmare in the tone it deserved Mike. In some cases there is just no room for humor, I appreciate you sensing this was one of those times and being able to adjust your delivery accordingly. Thankyou for treating Timothy and his father with the respect they deserve. ❤️

[@jenipherbusy-nowanda2515]

The one thing I absolutely know is that "crazy" people do not do things for other people, they do things for themselves. She didn't give Timothy a perfect weekend, she gave herself the perfect weekend.

[@mitchjohnson4714]

Wow.

[@amazingsupergirl7125]

Geez just because someone struggles with their mental health doesn’t at all mean they’re heartless.

[@TK2692]

No, you don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about. Some of the most kind and compassionate people I know are people who deal with or have dealt with mental health issues, because they know what it's like to be in a bad spot and want to help. Attitudes like yours only contribute to the stigma that people with mental illness face and make it harder for people who need help to get it.

[@drill4206]

Mike you've become my favorite to listen to while sitting with my 1 year old on the porch. Thank you for having such a great channel to listen to.

[@josephcampbell9298]

I use to follow this case closely but then stopped a few years back, so it blew my mind to see an update happen in my home state of Kentucky.

[@mikesharon2177]

Weird story both sad and intriguing!! Another great post Mike keep up ur hard work well stand by and support you no matter what:) thanx mate. -Mike Update- It's never a good thing when someone says they need their space i personally think she killed the little boy after spoiling him with park rides and the zoo so when she said that he's in good hands I believe she meant he's in Gods Good hands or deceased family members hands now and he's safe and fine atleast that's what I think couldve happened sadly I hope I'm wrimg and he's with a sweet loving family..... 2nd update I'm half way thrue ur vid and my opinion you mentioned to a T wow!!!! U can't help but really feel for the father:(

[@tabby73]

Parents who kill their children ..... it makes me cry to think what that poor boy felt and thought when she killed him. The ultimate betrayal of the innocent trust of a child 😭 Just heartbreaking.

[@___Alina___24]

God will give her the suffering she deserves.

[@lordkrythic6246]

The mother killed the boy when he said he wanted to "go back and see his dad". I guarantee it. It triggered something really dark in his mother, realizing that her son loved his father more.

[@kandimarmon6238]

I lost my grandson Monday and watching That Chapter has kept me

[@oshypee246]

Sorry for your loss.. sending you love, light and prayers 💜

[@LeanneFowler-ms5xc]

I'm so sorry for your loss. Sending prayers for you your way 🙏

[@andrewilliams4555]

You do Good Work Mike I can tell you have a big heart. Keep it up God bless you