Fixing Why All Mustangs Crash (Other than the drivermod) - Watts Link Install!

[@ThatDudeinBlue]

That DONK though. Thanks for watching guys! Have a great weekend and stay awesome. Hope you enjoyed!

[@aaronforward1004]

glad you found the lighting issue, shorts like that can be really frustrating and time consuming.

[@eddie6t9]

Please keep us posted on how the Whiteline setup holds up to your daily driving. There are a lot of people that bad mouth the Whiteline Watts Link because its priced cheaper than most of the other diff style watts links out there and they say the design doesn't hold up as well on the street. Since you drive your car all the time, it'll be great to see how it performs.

[@jakes24o69]

Review the donk.

[@shaunreed9167]

A.k.a. crowd killer delete! Lol

[@swallowpaperairplanes7979]

Jakes24O6 the exhaust on that car was heavy as hell. I lifted that and it was crazy.

[@DOITWITHDAN]

Prevents crashes? Can I get this for my Corvette?

[@robertw7623]

Do It With Dan pee in that butt

[@timbarito5586]

Lol

[@lillliillliliizz485]

To late

[@daviddiaz3910]

Do It With Dan lol glad your ok homie

[@226sickology]

unsub your bitch ass along time ago I didn't even know u was still around ebonics is your best friend

[@BladedAngel]

Love how the title says, "Other than the drivermod" We can try to prevent stupid, but never fully stop it :P

[@HoagMurkula]

"Before they where famous" Love ur vids guy. Talked me out of a bad financial decision. Now i 2nd guess all my spending and save money for the car i want (volvo s60r) instead of asking for debt.

[@andrewfox96]

Sn197 chassis’s are a 3 link setup (one upper control arm and 2 lower ) while older sn95s are a 4link set up (2 upper and 2 lower.) And with a watts link you don’t need the Panhard bar anymore. With a watts link you can set up to loosen or tighten the rear handling.

[@bstims2506]

I was beyond happy when i seen a Smurrf video

[@michaelward7517]

I did the same upgrade to my GT500 - Whiteline Watts Link and Roush upper control arm. Also have the same Steeda rear sway bar as you do. You will have to grind down the spot you pointed out in your video to get the sway bar to fit. This set up works awesome. My GT500 has 654 to the wheels. The car handles the power much better and cornering is a night and day difference. You will enjoy your upgrade to a watts link.

[@danielchampion2982]

I literally squealed with excitement when I saw this.

[@4.6_boat]

Wait So you're telling me my Crown Vic came from the factory with a Watts link but Ford decided the mustang didn't need one? Wtf

[@moostang09]

Did someone say Moostang!?!

[@ChevyFtWss]

Moostang is how Mexicans pronounce it.

[@rodrigoorozco1722]

Se certainly call it that way hahaha

[@MrJune4]

lol its just a meme way to say mustang over here lol, nothing to do how someone pronounces it.

[@Pbeezy4]

R-Spec and Asians lol

[@UnTamedMustang]

NachoStang. MuStang.

[@imnota]

So now you can leave car meets.

[@4litrespoolyboi206]

IMNOTA hahahaha so good!!!

[@RobertCOVELL]

Best reply

[@_Gingium_]

This was a super awesome video! Informative, cinematic, and funny at the same time!

[@xbone4138]

Gingium wassup bro

[@timbarito5586]

Gingium dont sell theeee rxxx77777

[@lounatik]

Rip shop lol

[@xantor_]

Gingium hi Caleb

[@warrenrose3510]

commentium

[@Ben-bg2eg]

I think David’s one of the most real car KZbinrs in the community. Props for being humble, and you have some great guys working with you in this video and that’s a good thing to see.

[@gedasalekveravicius5466]

Yep, it's 'dae best mod for every live suspension, especially mustang. ChisFix should get this too

[@chunkuswumpus3515]

I'm out here near Chicago and I use y'all all the time and nobody complains about it. My spanish teacher uses y'all for teaching (nosotros on the conjugation charts)

[@WaterdownBOY]

David where's the review video of the Watts Link?!?! I don't see a video on your impressions :(

[@IBleedMusick]

David thank you for appreciating the car and not knocking it like most people would. I should also let you know Big Chief just bought a beautiful one to grudge race.

[@pokemasterbs]

Glad to see you got the watts link! This was amusing to watch because I have been through all of that before. Just on jack stands to boot 😅 Those mods will totally change the way the car feels. Enjoy!

[@UnlinealHand]

"You could do an IRS conversion but that's a lot of time and money." *looks at Matt Farah*

[@banneddamn]

UnlinealHand there is no factory irs available for the s197 chassis, whereas fox based chassis did.

[@hesayad1055]

matt used the IRS from the 2003/2004 cobra because the chassis was still similar. the s197 doesnt have any other car that can be a donor

[@DGCastell]

haha i thought about his car too.

[@Tjracerz]

An irs on a s197 would have to be made from scratch probably use the s550 diff as a donor component and make the irs subframe around it everything would have to be custom

[@emill910]

Please do a review on this. I'd love to hear your opinion on how the handling improved.

[@TurboShotIncredible]

So stoked you guys found that short! Crazy turn of events, great process of elimination! Also, that watts link is sick!

[@Dylanschillin]

When dave talked about the asthma I know your struggle brother

[@19chucki74]

Blacksmith Lewis same here, been had asthma since I was a kid. It is no joke.

[@Dylanschillin]

Chalres Kirkland the spacer is funny though

[@emiliano29171316]

Y'all need a throttle body spacer to adjust the air mix

[@illusive5811]

Chalres Kirkland "been had"

[@r_ez4608]

Same man, I was born with it

[@jdmfreak22]

I watch all your videos, rarely comment. This is the best one you've uploaded in a long time! Cheers David!

[@TjCortes]

Don't let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda Civics with Spoon engines. And on top of that, he just went into Harry's and he ordered three T66 turbos with NOS... and a Motec system exhaust.

[@pennycopperhatch9315]

hahaha.....

[@ironedge626]

So what are you trying to say Bryan?

[@TjCortes]

ironedge626 look I’m a cop ok I’m a.cop but we need to stop dom before he gets hurt!

[@ironedge626]

I'll see you in the desert next month. Be ready to have your ass handed to you

[@Blink240sx]

If I see this shit one more time!...

[@gunsandhorsepower]

Its still funny about the whole 240 pickle rick situation😂

[@BodeVision]

Great work man! Keep it up! I met you with my brother at Adam LZ's meet a couple months back! Great time

[@dawsongorges6855]

Tbh trying to graduate means giving up some sacrifices and sometimes that's your videos but it's 4am and I can't sleep so I'm trying to like everything and catch up 😅 keep dreaming bigger bro we all love you 💙

[@matttap5441]

I can't wait for the review on the watts link!!!

[@Turshin]

OMG FINALLY. I've been saying you should have a donk ever since you first moved to GA

[@tomp8689]

Best car channel!!!!

[@ThatDudeinBlue]

Thank you!

[@tomp8689]

ThatDudeinBlue your welcome from england!!!

[@TheUsmc0802]

"Anti hop Brace", that's the upper control arm bud

[@Jake1973_]

Right!? Gotta admit I was surprised the "suspension guy" was at a loss...hoping his alignment shop was up to speed on setup

[@valley4516]

So close but so far from a million subs hope you get it David

[@JerZeyFiveOh]

The watts link does help with stability control but it doesn't prevent mustang drivers from crashing. I have owned live axle or solid rear axle (SRA) Mustang for over 12 years now. They are actually better at regaining control of a loose rear end compared to independent rear suspension in the light of spirited/hard driving. The reason why its better in my honest opinion is because the SRA is one solid piece which gives it better contact patch on the road when the rear is sliding from under you. When the IRS slides out from under you, *you're dealing with unstable movement from both sides of the rear end* compared to a solid piece that is moving a lot less.

[@Michel-Graillier-fanclub]

Firebirds are much easier to control but tangs look better

That sway bar modified fitment is easy modification with no cutting. Slide the sway bar support arm inward to clear the watts link end. It only has to slide an inch or so. Won't affect performance. Then do a side mount to the existing body mount. Need to add a snug fitting spacer block or steel pipe section inside the existing mount for rigidity and strength. Use a long high strength bolt to secure it all. Just like a side mounted shock.

[@mr.2cents.846]

Pretty smart. I was wondering does this makes the ride smoother and absorbs bumps and unevenness in the road better?

[@russellhowry4137]

We need a full car review of the Donk. Such a bas ass car. Love your uploads!

[@mooosestang]

How's that watts link holding up? or rather how is that fancy diff cover holding up? I'm curious how much weight this watts link adds if any. it doesn't look nearly as heavy since it uses the diff cover. wish it were cheaper though. IRS is so heavy in comparison and can't handle nearly as much power as the 8.8.

[@maxpower8170]

Can you do a review of the Watts link? Not sure if is worth the money. thx

[@dustinrichardson209]

I plan on going watts link soon but i went 4 to 1 torsen and 4.10 gears. going to that torsen was amazing in and of it self. excited to ad the watts link to the mix

[@63falconrs]

Good video. I also have a Whiteline wattslink on my 2013. But I took it a step further and did all of their other suspension stuff also. They make sway bars, lower control arms and the upper control arm and mount (the correct name for the wheel hop kit) lol.

[@jeffl3224]

The mount with the hard to take off bolt under the rear seats is the UCA, upper control arm.

[@Rockport1911]

Very cool upgrade, probably works great and looks awesome underneath the rear end. Has something mechanical to it :)

[@FullThrottleFirearms]

I want a watts link so badddd. Stoked for you David!

[@TheUsmc0802]

Nice!!!! I think after I upgrade my brakes to some sort of Brembo set up I'm going to go to a watts link rear too. Are you thinking of adding a torque arm as well? Apparently a torque arm plus a watts link completely transforms the car.

[@SeanMcGuigan]

I hope you like the whiteline. My Boss 302 has the same one. It was installed before I bought the car but I love mine. Makes such a big difference.

[@jmschmuecker]

Haha, i am pretty sure he put the new cover on once before installing the cap supports. I might be wrong but looks like it. Good video

[@RalliRandy]

Notification squaaaaaad! Was actually rewatching the podcast before this

[@asparceproton1]

I could be wrong, but I think a Watts Link is effectively a rear sway bar. I think you're going to see a big improvement, even with no rear sway bar. Might just be a little understeery before you get another one on there :)

[@VQSeries]

Next up, test drive please. Would like to get your feedback on it's [hopefully] new handling.

[@jadensantiago5583]

Hey David, We should kick it sometime, you can even review my 12 BOSS 302! See how it compares!

[@joshvaz00]

Jaden Santiago contact him!

[@colorblind1983]

I love boss stangs!

[@craigmcleod5032]

Looking forward to your review on the drive after the install. Seriously looking at this for my car too.

[@epicsportsnorth3989]

i remember you doing the lower control arms! i cant believe ive been subscribed for that long lol

[@stefanmyers]

@thatdudeinblue are you going to do a video on how much difference the watts link makes. Driving and performance improvements vid?

[@tayl0rd553]

Sooo.... No follow-up to say how you like it? I love the Watts link on my GT500. I have a ton of mods on it, but, for me, the Watts link was THE best mod I ever installed.

[@mikeydsgarage6938]

Watts links are the bestt nd make such a difference my P71 crown Vic has a factory Watts link its awsomeeeeee

[@harrisonlee3250]

Review of how it feels when driving!

[@Shutchohole]

There is a reverse on that impact you were using on the large bolt under the seat. You can tell you had it in forward. Can't knock you too bad it's easy to miss.

[@abedekok322]

Recently did a full suspension upgrade on a SN95, I have yet to get it through some twists but due to the light weight and low ride height it *stays on the ground and goes exactly where you point it* still needs some nice summer performance tires but it does fine as is. Also, didn't know they kept using the 8.8 even in the SN197s

[@TheDumbGrunt]

well gosh darnit! I was waiting all day for an integra update... but this is pretty cool too

[@jsimmonstx]

The S197 was supposed to have an IRS, but Ford thought it was too expensive. You can get an IRS for the car if you wanna spend about $8k. I don't know how well it would support drag racing or high-HP applications (500 or higher).

[@stzgolf]

Any plans to do a video update & review on Smurf after your Watts Link install? I'm curious what your thoughts are after the upgrade (pros and cons) and how you think this upgrade on your S197 stacks up against the IRS on a S550

[@fcardona84]

Ford took so long to go IRS because it works so well for drag racing. Nobody bought a mustang to carve curves like a European sports car will.

[@devil5oh583]

supra driven Incorrect. The IRS on the mustang is not meant for drag racing, it is more meant for cornering, and rally. The live rear axle is in fact the best suspension for drag racing

[@FullThrottleFirearms]

I think thats what supra driven was trying to say, (SRA) works so well for drag racing. But you have to remember the terminator cobra in the early 2000's came with an IRS, which ford should have kept.

[@joshvaz00]

WatchThisRightNow he worded it badly but you misinterpret

[@fcardona84]

My bad. Just read what I typed. It came out backwards. Solid live axle is the best for drag racing. It’s imho best suited for the mustang. I mean, are most people buying mustangs for road course or for drag racing? Maybe the reason why it’s not that big of an issue is because of hwy/roll racing nowadays and so people don’t care about the solid axle anymore.

[@catmario9947]

supra driven gt86 has a live axle too and it handles heavenly

[@ivan-681]

Did he ever do a review post install??

[@tonymanna9160]

I have one on my 13 GT too. Awesome upgrade.

[@bluengold3443]

Time to drop some coils and some poly bushings in the future, David

[@milesmack6788]

Out of all the cars David has done I'm surprised he hasn't done a honest to god lowrider

[@tobascosauce3964]

I’m in love with this channel

[@zDialecticChaos]

keenan and kel is a childhood gem

[@sandorspalms]

Talking to a Ford engineer many years ago I brought up the question about why they don't use IRS on the Mustang except for certain models like the Cobra...The answer...Cost! But he did point out that the second reason was that many Mustang owners preferred the the live axle for the drag strip. I personally thought the second reason was a copout or a lie because it really was about money.

[@brodielarsen4098]

no, live axle is better for drag all day

[@cyclonekevin6199]

Cobra owners was swapping out, the irs for live axles.

[@Nunez645]

How is watts link kit working out, just ordered mine?

[@DrewD174]

You should pick up a strut tower brace. Pretty inexpensive and helps with body stiffness.

[@staygrindin5927]

Always driver mod and that rear axle thank god for the new independent system on the coyotes

[@batmayn]

have you done a review of the handling with this thingy on it yet?

[@DivaniKingston]

YO Donks on this channel?! NICE! You just earned a new sub.

[@huntermasling79]

Had a FAYS2 Watts link on my fox body that I went to track days with, made a HUUUUUUUGE difference!

[@curtishickerson2646]

Hey David, I would really appreciate it if you did a review of the Watts link after install and how much you think it helped. I’ve been going back and forth on wether or not to buy one for a while and would really love to hear what your opinion is on it.

[@bignoisemotors3218]

It’s always a good feeling when you get to the root of the problem!!

[@haydenlarson8617]

Awesome vid David. Miss mustang content

[@MikesProjectsandHobbiesMC]

How many miles have you put on Smurf with the supercharger installed?

[@atvmx46]

I remember putting that panhard in lol. That stock bar was so bent.

[@CHIPZ711500]

Good to see the old girl back

[@2007dalin]

so a poor install from previous caused the wiring short.. always check aftermarket installs first when problems come up as its usually not as good quality work.. unless you drive a chevy or something lol

[@lukesdoings7150]

When is the review of the watts link on the smurf?!?! I wanna know if it’s worth it for stang.

[@gergatron7000]

1982 Aussie Falcon: "jeez, about time we got with the program with the watts and 4-link" 2015 Mustang: "yeah should probably update to 80s technology"

[@nicoericsson6026]

I usually dont like donks but that one is pretty clean

[@ericktorres2009]

I have a V6 mustang 2014 and am doing almost the same thing .. so i can have control of the car more bro P.s. your Mustang is Awesome i watch all your videos and i learn a lot big fan here 👍

[@user-sb7je7oe9l]

Dude you’re awesome, I love seeing this dtuff

[@hamonthvac]

All that lateral force placed on diff cover bolts? I'm surely not the only one questioning the amount of stress placed those bolts?

[@usahd7745]

stefan samotulka That's what I was thinking but I'm suspecting the bolts are beefed up or something along those lines.

[@hamonthvac]

Joseph HD They have to be higher rated no doubt. It just seems like you'd want an overkill solution and 12 or whatever harder bolts doesn't seem like that to me. I'd except a system to have a weld on ring or 2 piece tube to the axle tubes. And use it as a mounting point.

[@HotboiEngineering]

Keep in mind my numbers are extremely conservative, but each bolt being a Grade 8 bolt, they have about 1000 pounds of clamping force, and at least 1000 pounds of sheer load. And that's just 1, there's several on the diff cover. I would be more worried about the bolts that hold the link to the diff cover.

[@hamonthvac]

Brap Brap yea it seems great. I'm sure it's fine and overkill as it is. I just like overkill for everything. Without a sway bar as well I'm sure it takes more force but is still well within safety.

[@Svtarlen]

I’ve had this set up on my car without a sway bar for over a year with no issues.

[@JD_JoyrideTV]

I’d rather have the live rear axle over the IRS. Ford had IRS back in the day (the 03/04 cobras has it) I’ve seen guys swap out the IRS for LRA. Better for drag racing. But that WATTS link is badass and gives you the best of both worlds.

[@dailys1979]

I'm doing this to my 12 5.0 The lift looks so good. Mine is on jack stands

[@jamesrbronson]

I just scrolled through 4 years of videos looking for a post-watts link suspension review and couldn’t find it. I bought a 2012 v6 that needs suspension work, and want to put something on that will behave more like IRS on high speed rutted corners (my 08 caravan corners better ATM). What’s your take?

[@lobbyrobby]

I just bought a 2020 gt pp1. I've had 3 stangs in the past and never really cared about cornering. However this car feels planted. Wheel hop sucks so I'm putting in the bmr cradle lockout level 2. I'm going to install lowering springs too. The car should feel like it's on rails. I just hope I don't get a bunch of NVH from the lockout kit

[@TheOmni4201]

This is so cool, i love this channel

[@kiefergebhardt1327]

Yes a mustang video!

[@cobaltlukather9045]

I want to see a donk on mud tires going to a mud hole

[@Darwinpasta]

I've always wanted to see a donk go off-road.

[@YachtLife]

But it wouldn't be a donk

[@cobaltlukather9045]

i saw one going down a flooded street like it was nothing. it's time to up the ante.

[@cobaltlukather9045]

It's just a wheel and tire change and irreparable water damage. nothing major!

[@scottbridges5066]

Good video. Detailed and distracted at same time. Watched many Mustang burnouts turn into parts cars. How do these mods effect/affect the traction control system. I have an s197, but I've not heard anything since I disabled mine do to the car taking a drift away.

[@andrewworden3978]

That weird parts definitely gets in the way with the filler hose but just taking out the bolts on the other side let’s it just pivot out of the way

[@LOR_Official07]

They torque the top bolt on the upper control arm to 300 lb*ft. Not getting that off without a breaker bar

[@DaBrute]

14:08 Snap on is over-rated should've had an Ingersol Rand

[@ChevyFtWss]

awesome i helped my uncle install a watts link in his 96 z28, wish we had a lift. lol.

[@georgedillon1768]

I️ like the solid axle