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@Dudeman93392 жыл бұрын
Yo patterson... are you for real? You are advertising a digital loan shark. These kinds of things ruin lives.
@kristianodegaard66822 жыл бұрын
@@Dudeman9339 hey man ruin your life for that downpipe! Get dave!
@grinsler2jz2 жыл бұрын
Please give Taylor a call and do his Redline for the show!
@fortheloveofnoise2 жыл бұрын
Why can't we have cars like this anymore?
@mmyr1232 жыл бұрын
F Dave
@Lonespark2 жыл бұрын
I owned one of these. It was legit a fantastic car. Had a random guy waiting by it in the parking lot of the mall make me an offer I couldn't refuse for it. Sent me a cashiers check overnight and sent a car hauler to pick it up. The guy was visiting family and apparently had been hunting for one in pristine condition for a while. It was, odd. He way overpaid and yet I still regret selling it.
@Blakethegoat2 жыл бұрын
How much did he give you for it? Go get another one 😂
@YeshuaDisciple9162 жыл бұрын
@@Blakethegoat I'm curious what he got for it, as well. I have no idea what these go for.
@vanessaestrada30132 жыл бұрын
Wow !
@Dart00Z2 жыл бұрын
That could make a good vinwiki story.
@gypsonny22 жыл бұрын
Bob please tell us what you paid 🙏🏻
@gotblonde4u2 жыл бұрын
So glad you finally got around to doing the redline! I daily drive my 07. Most people either have no clue or couldn't care less, but every once in a while I run into someone who knows what it is and it puts a smile on their face every time. Not easy to come by where I'm from, only ever seen 1 other redline and I thought for a second my car got stolen 😂
@Guineson2 жыл бұрын
Daily my 06 since day 1, 257k and counting and she sees max boost every day 👍
@davidfournier9992 жыл бұрын
I ordered a black comp 06 from the dealer, and ended up not buying it.... Seen that one once, and I seen a blue 04 once, which made me find my 04 blue. So I've seen 2 others in 18 years, lol.
@shannacollins47412 жыл бұрын
Rather have my SRT4 sorry Saturn! Lol
@Guineson2 жыл бұрын
@@shannacollins4741 i wanted one my self, but A) i couldn't fine one at the time and B) the insurance rates where double that of the redline lol to many people wrecking them i guess 🤔
@carlosesquive7222 жыл бұрын
Fuck yeah I wanted I one too
@SM-yg1ts2 жыл бұрын
I owned one of these, loved it , Supercharger sounded great , factory exhaust sounded great , the seat were great . I was a big Saturn fan , owned 2 Sc2, 1 Ion redline , and 1 Saturn Vue . I even went to the Saturn home coming drove from Toronto to Springhill Tennessee.
@HK_8082 жыл бұрын
I'm currently driving a 2008 saturn aura
@MoreBear2 жыл бұрын
"Saturn was carbon copies of Chevies and Pontiacs". Actually, it was the reverse. Saturn had been using the GM Delta Platform and the Ecotec for 2 years before the Cobalt, G5/G4/Persuit and HHR. The Supercharged Ecotec was used in the Saturn Ion Redline for more than a year before the Cobalt SS/HHR SS. The "Redline" series of Saturn vehicles was the precursor to the Chevy SS line of vehicles (don't forget the Saturn Vue Redline too). As a Saturn SL1 owner (SOHC), I had no issue embarrassing Civics, Cavalier/Sunfires, Neons etc. Most cars now a days owe a lot to Saturn (I could go on for days to be honest). Great content as always.
@budmatto9205 Жыл бұрын
It's refreshing seeing the positive comments on the Saturn. Both my wife and I were involved in the supply end of Saturn production for many years. GM actually did a good thing with the Saturn, building a brand from nothing that was competitive with the Asian products of the day. Quality was a true focus when started and philosophy was to be truly different from the rest of GM. Research the success of the initial Saturn homecoming and the brand loyalty that was developed that early in its life. Unfortunately, by the time that the Ion was released, GM was ratcheting down on the spending and was focused on making Saturn into just another GM division. Products that were intended for Saturn were moved to other divisions and the products that were sold as Saturns were rebadged Opels or other GM cars. The uniqueness of the first generation was gone with the exception of the Saturn Sky and Redline series. It was probably some of the most enjoyable times in our careers seeing it literally rise from an old horse plantation to one of the most modern production facilities in the country. It is great to see Saturns still on the road as daily drivers in our area.
@TheAlphaGentleman Жыл бұрын
I still own and collect saturns with my girlfriend! We absolutely love them! I myself saved a sl1 and a sc1 from the scrapyard and built a ion redline. I have a vue redline and a sky redline as well
@strongereveryday2302 Жыл бұрын
The only problem was in 25 years Saturn never and I mean never turned 1 penny of profit. They lost money on every single Saturn ever made. It was a poorly executed idea made from hodgepodge parts and 99% were ugly and forgettable. It was actually taught in my business classes as one of the biggest modern business failures.
@Chriskary12 жыл бұрын
I miss my redline! I had a FBO one pushing 310HP it was a absolute rocket! It didn’t have the high rise wing so it looked like traffic and it was fun because I use too mess with everyone in it!
@cpftank092 жыл бұрын
I’m glad to see ZZP is still out there. I had a handful of their parts and tunes on my old GTP’s over 10yrs ago. Miss those cars! Always wanted to do an L67 swap on a Fiero.
@gbrunner242 жыл бұрын
We're here and still growing!
@SimbaUchihaa2 жыл бұрын
I can confirm just look at what they did to the Chevy sonic rs
@CPAJayhawk2 жыл бұрын
Back when domestic companies looked at the late 90s civi Si popularity and said, “we can do this better”… we had this Saturn, cobalt ss, srt-4 neon, A LOT faster than the Japanese sub compacts
@Rockit1812 жыл бұрын
Lol true. Then Japan was like let's send our rally cars. Enter WRX, then Evo, then STi. Everyone wins with car wars
@philipwilliams34272 жыл бұрын
actually the major 3 had hot compacts in the early 80's😉
@subie25i302 жыл бұрын
I completely forgot about the suicide doors. That was my favorite feature on that car when it came out. Cool to see people doing some tasteful mods to them.
@billybuchanan3852 жыл бұрын
Great feature especially if you have a couple kids. Makes car seats much easier to get in and out. I have owned one since 2020. They have their issues but if you fix them before they break they last a while. Mainly they suffered from timing chain assembly issues. Jumped timing is the number 1 killer of these cars
@davidfournier999 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, I got one of these cars now. I ordered one in 06, needed a cheap car until it arrived, bought a 93 Impreza for $600. A week later I took my deposit back and kept the Impreza. The daily Forester I just picked up is Subaru #15. Restoring my entire suspension and braking systems over now on my 08 Legacy 3.0R which came with the spec b goodies. I'm a Subaru guy thru and thru now.
@irlredline79652 жыл бұрын
Finally as a Ion Redline owner I’ve been waiting for a long time for this. Hopefully you can review a SRT4 caliber and CTS V1 because I also own those rare cars too
@robertstone99882 жыл бұрын
U wana talk about rare. I worked at a Pontiac dealer right at the end and we had 1 solstice gxp hard top. Only one I have ever seen in the flesh. Guy told me when he was dropping it off to take a good look id never see a nother one. Also when i worked at a ford dealer we got a 13 fusion with a 6 speed manual once by mistake a mess up in the ordering. Ford took it back but cant be to many of them around.
@irlredline79652 жыл бұрын
@@robertstone9988 solstice GXP is rare but not as rare as the 3 cars I mentioned. Not too sure about a 6 speed fusion. Dodge made only 5564 SRT4 calibers. GM only made 5855 Ion Redlines and 7000 pulse CTS V1s.
@irlredline79652 жыл бұрын
@@robertstone9988 ok just looked it up they pretty damn rare
@robertstone99882 жыл бұрын
@@irlredline7965 yeah its not a competition though there all pretty rare. Rare shit is cool.
@samd75962 жыл бұрын
@@irlredline7965 they only made 1266 solstice coupes, they were much more rare than the others you mentioned.
@TheMrmmkkpro2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 05 Ion QC 5speed 164k. I drove it on a trip from coastal NC to Columbus MS. 80 mph a lot of the way, there and back, have driven her 4k miles so far, zero oil usage, zero timing chain noise, cool little car. Wasn't sure about the centered instrument cluster, but kinda like it the more I drive it. Nice review. 👍👍
@kevingarofalo84932 жыл бұрын
My 03 QC was my first new car, loved it, had it for 14 years, original battery lasted 11.5 years, always sat outside, sold it for 2500 with 165k and the original clutch, although not without some maintenance I had to do on it.
@TheMrmmkkpro2 жыл бұрын
@@kevingarofalo8493 That's cool , my 08 G5 was a great little car , I think the timing chain broke so it killed the enging at 200k , it was a great little car too , my ion replaced it , so far so good. I may go ahead and put a new timing chain in it. A little preventive maintenance. I think the Saturn is quieter than the G5 was. Putting a sound system in the ion too. Cool little cars.
@TheNORegretShow2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy to think how far we have come in car design. I had a 2005 orange blast SRT-4 when it first came out. Lol I had a razor phone back then haha.
@joshuakhaos44512 жыл бұрын
Haha, Dude. thats like a full mid 2000s vibe right there. What kind of music would you be playing in the SRT?
@TheNORegretShow2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuakhaos4451 Eminem, 50 cent, Nelly, Mike Jones, Paul Wall, Nickelback,GreenDay,Limp Bizkit,Korn, Ying Yang Twins haha.
@joshuakhaos44512 жыл бұрын
@@TheNORegretShow Lol, If that doesnt describe 2005, I dont know what else will
@codybondanza8170 Жыл бұрын
lol this was my teen years but mine was red 😂
@ron.hertzberg11 ай бұрын
And I smoked you in my stage 2 redline. Lol Not you. But soo many of you. Every srt4 tried me
@cobrien2784 Жыл бұрын
I drove a non redline 5 speed for a few years and once you get used to the center gauge I found it a lot easier to check quickly than the normal behind the steering wheel. It's not as big a focal change and you're not peering through the steering wheel, so even with a slight shift to the right it's less distracting. I think it's a better design that never took off because it's just not what people were used to so it turned them off. Kind of like how we have all these fake shifting cvts now because people are used to feeling shift points.
@j_mars_cars2 жыл бұрын
I heard about these cars many years ago and was intrigued. But then I realized I liked different build quality at that time. Now when I see my brothers ion 4 door auto, it’s just reliable and really easy to use for Doordash and such. Cheap as can be! Respect for Saturn.
@rahulmandala49302 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was nice to see what these cars stood for at the time. However, with the typical fashion of GM, they don’t realize the value of what they have and decide to axe such a brand. May Saab, Pontiac, Saturn, Oldsmobile, etc. all rest easy. Such nice cars they were at the time and still are. Just always has me thinking what all of those brands could’ve been under the right hands.
@MikeLaRock882 жыл бұрын
They always got a bad rep for having plastic bodies. idk why that was such an issue, but a lot of people hated it.
@creedns2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeLaRock88 the plastic became extremely brittle and cracked easily. In freezing temps, parts of the bumper would just break off 😂
@MikeLaRock882 жыл бұрын
@@creedns That makes sense. I live in the desert so didnt know about that
@kylecube152 жыл бұрын
@@creedns I have a 96 and live in Wisconsin so far no cracked panels
@Theheavyweightable Жыл бұрын
I had the redline and my cousin had the SS. I think the goofy suicide doors and the gauge cluster being in the middle of the dash gave the redline much more character. I wish id never have sold it. currently looking for another to get into. by far the most fun I've had in a street car
@kbarnes7634 Жыл бұрын
Same I had the zzp stage 3 w 2.8 pulley running like 20psi miss that car I’m looking at getting another 06 with 65k original miles on it but the guy wants 6k!!
@Theheavyweightable Жыл бұрын
@@kbarnes7634 $6k that’s it? Hell I’m seeing 100k miles out here for $8k-$10k
@spork92552 жыл бұрын
I own one of these and actually learned to drive stick in it! The gauge cluster is definitely weird and made it a little funky…
@elmustango40492 жыл бұрын
I owned a blue 2004 Saturn RL that got totalled and then a silver 2005 Saturn RL back in the day. The 2005 RL I made I think if I remember right 260 whp or 270whp, from PA drove to Maryland to get it tuned. Some guy had a laptop with hptuners and had a few runs on the highway. 2.8 zzperformance pulley 60lb injectors pacesetter headers, cut the air intake box and had a big fat k&n filter. I really loved that car; I remember that crazy wheel hop, had to buy that brace thing, those gears were long and beautiful and 3rd was the best. One thing was the oem clutch was horrible and it used to get hot that it wouldn't work till you let it cool down, eventually Saturn replaced it with a Saab clutch, yup the upgrade one clutch was from a Saab. I think I got it from GM crate for like $180.00..... memories.
@jeremypilot10152 жыл бұрын
I love that you pointed out that center mounted gauges suck and for the right reason.
@kevingarofalo84932 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a video giving some love to the R/L! I've wanted one since they came out, took me 14 years to find a low mileage mint condition 04 that I had to drive 5 hours for and over paid lol! It did come with a van full of parts though including a low mileage LSD transmission that I swapped in when I changed the clutch. Super fun weekend car, can't wait to track it one day!
@aradoran Жыл бұрын
I daily my ‘05 Ion Redline. Had it since ‘08, 30k miles to now 150k miles. Been a fun little car. Have to agree about the gauge cluster, wish the tack was on the left side closer to view and temp/warning lights on the right.
@slartbarg2 жыл бұрын
man I miss mine, you're making me want another. You absolutely get used to the offset gauge cluster, it got to the point where i preferred it
@irlredline79652 жыл бұрын
Honestly it's better
@kevingarofalo84932 жыл бұрын
I owned a 03 QC first and it's easy to get used to, I just wish they swapped the tach and the fuel gauge around.
@DriveOnWHeartOn2 жыл бұрын
Great review, David. A lot of angles and it really brought me back to when I had a GReddy exhaust on my S200. It was so much fun! Picking up people at the airport was always fun. I’d always tell ‘em, just listen for me. 😅 Netsky, Goldie, John B, Reid Speed, Rusko, Marcus Intalex. We all had a blast!
@Pudding1752 жыл бұрын
I have an 05 Ion Redline with all the ZZP stage 2 supercharged goodness haha
@macphistom40442 жыл бұрын
I purchased a 2007 Red Saturn Redline with The Competition package that brought The LSD, Carbon Black wheels, the big ass wing, Adjustable Tree light tachometer with adjustable shift points etc. But for once I wanted to go all in. At the time, Saturn dealers sold the Stage 1 and Stage 2 kits. Stage 1 had an ECU flash, Stage 2 brought a smaller pulley, More poweful injectors and a more aggresive tune with a slight higher rev limiter. I also went nuts and put the Extrude honed Manifold Header and a 3 inch catback custom made with magnaflow muffler. And yes all this was installed AT the dealer which meant I had warranty. The car was insane. 1st gear was nearly useless. Insane amount of wheelspin so you had to modulate it.very carefully. The materials said that Stage 2 would give me 255 hp and about 280 pounds of torque. All i can say is that a lot of cars liked to screw with me, and a lot of drivers after getting their ass handed to them went like: What the hell is that??? I always loved responding: Its just A Saturn.baby. I own that.vehicle for 3 years as and drove the hell out of it in FL. About almost 80,000 miles. The modifications took a toll on the car (thats why I had all done at dealer) The A/C at stop would not work well because of the pulley. The iddle was pretty rough. The headers failed once. The dealer where I moved to after purchasing the car tried to weasel out of it until i showed them all the info in paper and black and white. Replaced it but also the gasket seals started leaking. They had to end up putting a new head and new gaskets. Also check engine lights used to go off all the time. But I would not change anything. Had the joy of driving a very rare car. Modded very high with warranty and driven a lot. I have owned Focus SVT, Heavily modded ZETEC Focus, Mustang GT, VW GTI, and These days I drive a Ford Fiesta ST also modded. I think I may hang on to the ST and keep as toy.
@macphistom4044 Жыл бұрын
And oh yeah..THE DRONNING of that exhaust..lol..Only 5 speed!!!
@MotoMedicine9042 жыл бұрын
These are hard as hell to find in a clean example these days. I really miss the early to mid 2000's tuner platforms all the brands were doing. SRT4, Redline, cobalt SS, k20 Si's... I would love to have a clean Mazdaspeed Protege...also rare these days
@joshuakhaos44512 жыл бұрын
Same with the Cobalts. If I get another Cobalt, I'm probably going to have to restore it. Same with these. But back in th early 2010s, you could get clean ones with not much looking
@cirealreviews17762 жыл бұрын
My SRT-4 has almost 300k miles on it and was my only car (daily driven) for 16 years! This era was just plain FUN!! All of the sporty eco cars!
@katdaddy4692 жыл бұрын
Had my srt4 in stock tune for thirteen years before i sold it.
@jamesborek81252 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! The heyday of "cheap/fun" American cars. Don't forget the Toyota XRS 2ZZ cars, including the Pontiac Vibe GT. Not as fast as the SRT4s and SSs but that 8000rpm redline was a beauty
@BrokenLuxury7772 жыл бұрын
SE-R
@macphistom4044 Жыл бұрын
I owned a 2007 Ion Redline in Red with the Competition package. It came with an LSD and the gun metal 17 inch rims . I purchased it new and at the time Saturn dealers were offering stage 1 and Stage 2 packages. I purchased both packages. Stage 1 had a factory Tune and 45 pound injectors. Stage 2 came with a 2.5 pulley kit plus it raised redline to 7000 rpms. On top of that I also installed the extrude honed port header with a straight 2.5 exhaust....That car was insane..1s gear was nearly useless, but Once you got grip....Watch out! In a straight it would destroy you...With all panels made of plastic..car weighed under 2700 pounds...Subarus WRX, Nissan 350 were NO match. STI and Neon SRT4 were trickier..But if i got a good launch, it was mine to win.....however all.those mods.came with a price. Driveability went to shit...At the light with a small pulley kit messed with the A/C. Car revved kind of rough. At 45,000 miles the Header Cracked. Thank god I purchased the extemded warranty at dealer. Since I purchased and installed the header at a saturn dealer and it was a GM Performance part, They had to.honor it (not before trying to weasle themselves out of it. Then the head gasket started leaking. It was also covered..By the time it was 2010, Car had almost 75000 miles from highway driving in FL and.was time to go. Still...Lots of fun memories. My favorite: Guy in a 350 with his GF started revving next to me at the light..I was like...nah not today...I was tired...but then the guy looked like a real douch..so fuck it...red to green...got an awesome launch...killed.him by like 2 cars. We get to the next light..guy goes..WTF you have.in.there..I just told him....Its a Saturn baby..His Girlfriend started laughing...He gave me one of.those half assed smile and went his way....Good times!
@DR.P3RKY2 жыл бұрын
Had one as my first car. Got it for $2000 in 2017 with 136k miles. Interior felt awful with the hard plastic but the seats were nice. My 15-16 year old self had an absolute ball driving it 🤙🤙
@joshuakhaos44512 жыл бұрын
These and the Cobalt ss are a lot of car for a 15-16 year old lol. But they are a great performance car to learn on. These were too new when I was 15-16, and the most powerful cars we had in our school were the 93-02 F-body camaros and Trans-ams. One kid saved up for a WS-6 for senior year. And yeah, the interiors of Coblats and Ions are trash, but you over look that because of their potential. I miss my Cobalt SS so much.
@tacticalmattress9 ай бұрын
While cheap looking, the interiors hold up well though if the owner wasn't a slob.
@tacticalmattress9 ай бұрын
Much better than Honda's do generally at least. Not sure why every civic etc I look at has rotted seats and stained interior. Youll see a few balts like that but most of them are clean, even the dirty seat ones don't rip after all that slobbery. *edit, honda's from the late 90s-2010. They got much better after 2012.
@waldo18772 жыл бұрын
Awesome you finally got a good one to review! I miss mine. Had it for about 8 years and had to sell it in 2020. Hope you had a good time with it. These are total sleepers and make even more power turbo swapped. I Hope to buy another one in the future. To bad saturn was shut down by gm. They should have lived on and continued to make great affordable cars.
@gigglesnbits2 жыл бұрын
i love the Ion Redline. wanted one when they were announced and and still do.
@TheRealMrRoyal2 жыл бұрын
I'm in WA state......was a parts manager at the Saturn dealership from 2000-2002. Wish I'd have paid more attention to redline stuff back then. I've been looking for one of these for a few years locally and have had no luck.
@jbird11732 жыл бұрын
I worked at a Saturn dealer when these came out. I stayed late to help bring the cars onto the lot, when the first sky red line and ion showed up we immediately raced them on the back of the lot
@Hamsteak2 жыл бұрын
I had a Saturn SC2 that was really fun to drive. It was a better but I stripped everything out of it to make it as light as possible. Then I did a basic upgrade to the suspension and added some performance to the engine. It was a pretty quick car and really fun driving the highways in Northern Ontario
@jesterokjones4954 Жыл бұрын
Those SC2's were DOHC 150hp package in a car that didn't weigh a whole lot at all, those things moved! Kind of like the first-gen Dodge Neon R/T 2 door, DOHC 160 HP, 5 speed, those things were actually faster than the Civic Si at the time.
@davidfournier999 Жыл бұрын
I had a 93 SC2 IN 97 that I put the SPS Stage 3 head package on. It made 191whp I think.
@SlowDelSol2 жыл бұрын
I had one for like two weeks while I worked on a few things to flip it. Made a few hundred bucks and got to rip on it for a bit. It’s pretty quick and you’d never expect it from the looks of it.
@rniejx42192 жыл бұрын
My redline makes 260whp on 93, has 210k miles on stock longblock, trans, clutch, etc. Been pullied and tuned/bolt ons since 100k miles. There are lsj engined cars with similar miles to mine making twice the power on stock longblocks. With proper maintenance and care (which many of these cars did not get) and timing chain replacements, the LSJ engine is extremely reliable, probably the only endgine that is more so in this class is the K series.
@hitmixhyepock94052 жыл бұрын
I own a cobalt ss/sc.. The cobalt ss also had a Recaro seat option. The first cobalt ss's had the 4 post steering wheel, then they switched to the corvette wheel. The good thing about the SC is the stop and go traffic races.....1st and 2nd are brutal. You should have hit the Rev limiter in 1st and 2nd....it's a TVS which is different than the Eaton m62....it's more top end peak.
@joshuakhaos44512 жыл бұрын
My old Cobalt SS S/C had the Recaro's, they were so damn comfortable when they had no right to be. They were so nice on Roadtrips. And they held you in on the twisties
@hitmixhyepock94052 жыл бұрын
@@joshuakhaos4451 I got the crappy pleather seats in mine...but I got the Prisma "pizza seats", they are super comfortable and hold me in great lol.
@jack.obrien2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video David! Always a pleasure seeing our LSJ Ecotecs get some love!
@lifeonadime47032 жыл бұрын
Definitely the ion redline for me over the cobalt SS. Both great cars but, the Saturn is just quirky and different. I'm partial still to the sc/sl models though because that little 1.9 dohc was just flat out reliable and got killer fuel mileage. I had a 91 sc2 with a 2001 engine swap(did NOT fit well and was missing an important engine mount) and I drove that thing to work for 2 months with a broken slave cylinder and having to shift using pliers on the shift cable lol. Had to start in gear and float it up/down shifts, also while holding the shifter in the correct gate area and making it shift by pulling and pushing the cable with pliers lmao 🤦. I worked at Cadillac at the time and once or twice a week a couple of other mechanics would come look at how it was driven because they wouldn't believe it when someone told them how I had to drive it. (Sorry for the book here). I just thought you mind find it as hilarious as we did. Hey when your poor, you gotta do what you gotta do. Matco got most of my paycheck for about a year 👌
@jonmcdonald63742 жыл бұрын
I remember driving my Camaro to work at 18yrs old in the 90's to the shop I worked at w 2 pairs of vice grips for a steering wheel cause I was waiting on a grant adapter. Got a few stares.... good times lol
@g.o.g.survivalgaming Жыл бұрын
Snap on got mine
@lifeonadime4703 Жыл бұрын
@@g.o.g.survivalgaming adult rape vans lol
@lifeonadime4703 Жыл бұрын
@@jonmcdonald6374 that's great lol 😆
@finickybits80552 жыл бұрын
I picked up a cobalt ss sedan in 2010, new off the lot. Neighbor had an ion redline. We had entirely too much fun wrenching and working on our little rockets
@datone_kai2 жыл бұрын
David with the 🔥content! Even when I’m just 3 mins in, I know it will be a good and interesting review!
@zacharyohare21182 жыл бұрын
YESSSS. I have had 2 of these, both were amazing daily drivers I paid around 2k for, and clean, comfortable, and surprisingly compentent
@MrHellohorse2 жыл бұрын
I have always loved the Ion Redline. I would take it in a heart beat over the Cobalt. The Saturn was the first one designed that they then converted into the Cobalt SS.
@dis69002 жыл бұрын
Owned an ‘04 Ion Redline and man, that car was a riot. Took the wing off and nobody had any clue how quick it was. Could spin the tires in third gear with all the torque it made and the best part was slaughtering GTI’s, mustangs, WRX’s and Civics. Unfortunately my supercharger blew and needed an engine rebuild at 34,000 miles so I had to sell it. Totally underrated car back in the mid ‘00’s!
@josephthompson85712 жыл бұрын
Very good review on the Ion red line and cobalt ss. You should definitely do a review on a HHR SS next. I have a stock one in the Atlanta area if needed.
@rorywagner72152 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you finally got to drive one! Wish It was mine🥺 I had one as my first car and I absolutely loved it, got taken out by a drunk driver..
@Mk7_kev2 жыл бұрын
I owned an 06 SS SC and I loved every bit of it when it wasnt breaking roll pins 😂
@OSSHWA2 жыл бұрын
@2:05 There was actually 3 different Cobalt SS variations. The 2.0L supercharged LSJ, the 2.0L turbocharged LNF (like the red one you reviewed previously) and the naturally aspirated 2.4L LE5. The "high output" LE5 engine was also what came standard in the base Solstice/Sky (whereas the GXP/Redline models used the turbocharged LNF engines).
@jeffreycruz29672 жыл бұрын
Sky redline came with the turbocharged LNF
@gorbdonfreeming2 жыл бұрын
Saturn getting all the love lately, makes me so happy
@ThatDudeinBlue2 жыл бұрын
Cobalt SS or Saturn ION Redline?
@amonebrice50882 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of both actually. I do wish they would have turbo charged the ION Redline instead of super charging it.
@j_mars_cars2 жыл бұрын
Ion Redline all day. Way cooler name, way more unique
@rahulmandala49302 жыл бұрын
Both are nice, but the SS edges it out for me. Such an underrated and rad FWD performance car it is. Everyone loves to rave about JDM’s finest and while those cars are good, the value for which the Cobalt SS played at hung out with cars 2-3x as much. IIRC, it was the fastest FWD around VIR when tested by Car and Driver. Such Wonderful motors!
@CPAJayhawk2 жыл бұрын
Cobalt
@hitmixhyepock94052 жыл бұрын
Cobalt, still get parts for it.
@UR2SLO4ME2 жыл бұрын
My buddy has one that is turbo swapped, thing moves for what it is. Nice little car
@VQSeries2 жыл бұрын
Nice intro as always, and I enjoyed learning about such a quirky anonymous fwd performance coupe that sits so quietly under the car enthusiast radar, ty for this quality review 👏
@R3AL-AIM2 жыл бұрын
I got a friend who has one and he swears by them. Only dude I know who has one, they are cool cars and it sounds pretty good tbh. I've seen Cobalt SS, but these are pretty cool
@OllamhDrab2 жыл бұрын
Well, that Saturn center gauge pod, I found, isn't actually so hard to adjust to, at all, especially considering that if you aren't tall, sometimes the steering wheel can clip your view in regular spots. My friend had an Ion3 with the 5-speed and their kinda vteckey thing, it was OK, and one of the few manual options she could get at the time. I think the REdllines are OK but getting kinda scarce/worn out.
@ACommenterOnYouTube2 жыл бұрын
My sister in law owned it and had NO IDEA it was supercharged let alone even cared, until the pulley started to whine real bad and she said she had a whine from the engine. That was also the 1st time i ever seen or heard of a supercharged saturn ...
@MrTimcrawlin2 жыл бұрын
I'd have to go with the Saturn. I've owned a Saturn Ion sedan and my girlfriend had a Cobalt a couple years back also. I like the layout of the Ions dash alot more then the Cobalt sedan. Plus, the Ion Redline looks more like a sportier car then the SS.
@Third_eyee2 жыл бұрын
that TVS blower is like the best mod you can do to a supercharged ecotech, they are highly sought after for sure
@skippingbear922 жыл бұрын
I owned a 2004 ion 3 got it for 2k with 260k miles on it. Man that car was in remarkable shape especially the engine. Didnt burn oil got 34-35mpgon highway and 29-30 city. It was a slow car but I was suprised how well it ran with the miles it had. I traded it in though. I want a redline lol
@AKcess_Dnied4 ай бұрын
I had an Ion 2, 4 door, with manual, and it was pretty quick. Much better once I put the recaro seats in from the redline.
@chrisholmes81311 ай бұрын
I like how there is no mention of the aftermarket Supercharger TVS1320 on that bad boy. I am sure that thing is running straight with all kinds of mods to the suspension, and perhaps aftermarket engine/transmission mounts. Id love to buy a redline. I look them up all the time, but I cannot find one... ever.
@godzilla73912 жыл бұрын
Love it! I really like the ecotec engines in these Cobalts and IONs. I bought a 2004 Cavalier new off the lot in 04. It had the factory body kit and was white with grey racing stripes. I used to joke that them damn racing stripes would get me in trouble, cause all these Hondas wanted to race me. Lol. I ended up buying a 13 Genesis coupe rspec in 2013, modded it to my liking, but I still have my Cavalier (143k), and she's been solid. I would have loved to thrown the Eaton supercharger on its 2.2 ecotec. Maybe I'll still do it just to see. Good vid
@dirtybirddog15792 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure how much it would cost but there was a cavalier at my local drag strip back in the day that had a 3800 supercharged swap from a Grand Prix GTP or one of those cars and it would hurt feelings all night
@godzilla73912 жыл бұрын
@@dirtybirddog1579 Wow. Yeah , I'm putting most of my $$ in my Genesis coupe, but I'd be interested to see if those same superchargers in the Cobalt / Ion, would work in my 2.2 ecotec. I'm assuming it would.
@dirtybirddog15792 жыл бұрын
@@godzilla7391 I’m pretty sure it’s an Eaton M90 like what was on the Thunderbird SuperCoupe. Most applications I’ve seen have been v6’s but I figure there’s gotta be a way. Either way, happy modding!
@ezraa77772 жыл бұрын
Yes it bolts right on with the intake manifold as well, and the 2.2 l61 in the cav can handle it
@cmdrw9855 Жыл бұрын
@@ezraa7777 bolts on yes, handle it no..the rods in the L61 are the weak points..with the piston right behind it. Redo the guts and do some headwork (port/polish etc) and you can have reliable power. Can probably get it done for $1k to $1.5k diy of course. If you pay a shop to do it then you're into the bend-over price range
@tyg85622 жыл бұрын
As someone who now owns a corvette, and daily drove a redline, I wish I had my redline back some days
@402SHO2 жыл бұрын
Seen one rocket past me the other day in Omaha I started laughing so hard. Like it wasn’t slow but it wasn’t fast. But holy cow was it LOUD!
@jaywilliams36252 жыл бұрын
That sound will never get old to me!!
@FugitiveVette Жыл бұрын
I have owned my 2006 Ion Redline with Comp Package since 2005. Bought it new and been daily driving it to this day. Great car lots of fun and greet performance!
@bradleybreeki58002 жыл бұрын
PLEASE! Do a saturn SKY Redline (or Solstice GXP)! I know you've done a base Solstice but it's not the same. I have an 08 Redline 5MT that I'd love for you to drive! 🙂
@domingod4648 Жыл бұрын
I had a Redline. Bought it for a steal of a deal, still remember paying 4k at 40k miles. The owner regretted selling it after a few weeks, he was non-stop was haggling me and after only 2 months he bought it back from me. Quick little unit, made some good memories racing friends in it for the short time I had with it.
@davevan91502 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the wagon version of the cobalt/ion... the HHR. The supercharger setup can swap over, I got mine from a scrap engine.
@Jessecwebb2 жыл бұрын
I do not think it had much to do with Ion. HHR is considered one of the worst car’s of the 2000’s, it’s why you don’t see them on the road anymore. More similar to the PT cruiser, similarly terrible car.
@OGDemonburn2 жыл бұрын
I misses out on one a while back. Doesn't look like I missed much, but still cool for a Saturn and way better than the Sky.
@dementedwarlok2 жыл бұрын
the saturn for sure, i had a love for the style of them and the weird names like the sl1 etc. i relly liked the station wagons
@Sparaco4872 жыл бұрын
my sl1 i swore would go a week on empty gas light being on
@gbrunner242 жыл бұрын
I had an 98 SW2 as my first car, I loved that thing, one of the cars I regret selling.
@hakeemsd70m Жыл бұрын
I miss seeing the 2000-02 LW wagons, preferred the pre-facelift versions.
@MilesOfTexas Жыл бұрын
The Cobalt SS is definitely better known than the Ion RL. The Ion was made from 2003-07 whereas the Cobalt SS went into production for the 2005 model year. I bought a brand new 07 Ion RL with the competition package on 10/31/06. I absolutely loved to drive that car. It ended up becoming a project after a mystery issue developed in the engine/fuel system, then it got crushed by a building in a hurricane. My last dyno run was 320 whp.
@SimbaUchihaa Жыл бұрын
What was the issue? I was having a weird throttle issue in my cable, base ion. Turns out it was the air filter. I heard K&N drop ins only affected MAF in the ions, so I thought I was safe since I had MAP for the intake manifold and that isn't a known issue. I added 2+2 together and realized MAF has the IAT sort of combined in it, and I had IAT in the air intake as well 😂
@jasonrogers8754 Жыл бұрын
When I was in highschool in the late 90's a friend of mine parents bought her an 88 or 89 factory model 4 cylinder supercharged 4 door Nissan stanza 5 speed. That car was a blast to drive for what it was.
@s2kkyle2 жыл бұрын
I've been close to 200mph in a few cars but 120mph in a redline was the scariest 😂😂😂
@wadecartwright427710 ай бұрын
Balance your tires😂
@MrViceversa10 Жыл бұрын
There was actually 3 version. 2.0SC the 2.0TC and the 2.4NA but that last one we dont talk about
@PeelePowered2 жыл бұрын
Hey David! I see you’ve been on the weird or niche car kick lately and wondered if you have ever been offered to drive a 2007-2012 Nissan Sentra SER Spec V? The last generation of the Sentra SER Spec V’s are getting very hard to find like the ion redline.
@gbrunner242 жыл бұрын
I support this one! Would love a review on the SER Spec V
@Seasniffer692 жыл бұрын
They're ok. About like reviewing an svt focus nowadays. A normal cvt 1.5t Honda is gonna be faster than both now.
@brayancortez32122 жыл бұрын
Theyre cool looking but slow na :(
@rafaelfavela772 жыл бұрын
Those things were sick. 6 speed 2.5, brembos, SUPER loud vtec sounding vvt.
@PeelePowered2 жыл бұрын
@@Seasniffer69 I promise you. The 1.5t with CVT isn’t going to leave the spec V lol.
@ZambranoA1232 жыл бұрын
Neon this neon that. Let’s see the Caliber SRT4 the true sleeper. I love mine.
@crisisrogue82862 жыл бұрын
i love these quad coupe ions, some had the 2..4 which is not too slow either, pretty fun cars
@redsealjourneymanreviews66472 жыл бұрын
180 hp
@crisisrogue82862 жыл бұрын
@@redsealjourneymanreviews6647 yeah
@redsealjourneymanreviews66472 жыл бұрын
@@crisisrogue8286 hi
@crisisrogue82862 жыл бұрын
@@redsealjourneymanreviews6647 hi
@redsealjourneymanreviews66472 жыл бұрын
@@crisisrogue8286 hi
@RECKLEZZ.13242 жыл бұрын
I owned the colbalt ss NA and I can say even tho it wasn't turbo or supercharged. It was still an extremely fun car to learn stick in and beat up a bit. I even jumped the thing (accidentally) going like 55mph. Snapped all the springs and the shocks were leaking. But I had a blast driving the colbalt. It'll forever be my first car.
@Jim_Layhey2 жыл бұрын
I never realized how big and professional his camera setup was
@Thatguy555952 жыл бұрын
Yup he had a lot of help from his parents
@Jim_Layhey2 жыл бұрын
@@Thatguy55595 naw he did everything himself
@Thatguy555952 жыл бұрын
@@Jim_Layhey yeah like that Mustang GT he had when he made his channel right? He definitely paid for that himself LOL
@skylarmccune92422 жыл бұрын
My first car was a 1997 Saturn SL2. It had a 5 speed manual, and despite having only 100 hp, was quite peppy and fun…as long as you were the only one in the car. Thanks to that car, I’ve always had a soft spot for Saturns, especially the Red Lines. I test drove an Ion Red Line on my 20th birthday, and I would love to to own one, but it just never was possible. After losing the SL2 in an accident, I owned a series of Mercury Sables. All 3 were fine cars, but they weren’t nearly as fun as that little Saturn. I finally got back to having a fun manual car this year when I got an 05 V6 Mustang.
@MrJoker423692 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see this great and overlooked car make it to your channel!
@Guineson2 жыл бұрын
Tach isn't a big deal, mine is blocked by my cellphone so i never even see it 😅. Drive it enough and you learn the shift points. Also i have the competition package with boost gauge / shift lights so it is a nice back up as when you see the red light turn on at (for me) 7k rpm you know what you got to do. Original owner of a 06 and have 257k miles on her and i still hit max boost and play around with people who have no idea that it can pull as hard as it does.
@travissmith57392 жыл бұрын
badass buddy!
@dizztroyer-50492 жыл бұрын
I had a wingless 05 IRL, loved that car. It was a bit of a sleeper. Most people just saw a Saturn until they got dusted.
@SwervooShiestyYt Жыл бұрын
Lets all try to get saturn back 😢
@soulhealers9992 ай бұрын
Fr tho 😭💀
@soulhealers9992 ай бұрын
I have a feeling if they come back they all gonna be EVS
@LundCoD42 жыл бұрын
finally!!!! i drive an 04 redline, stage 3. 2.7 pulley on e85 and methanol Injection. such a fun car!!!
@LundCoD42 жыл бұрын
also, if you ever wanna drive a saleen or roush zx3 focus let me know!!
@randomriffsrawsome2 жыл бұрын
My first car was an 06 saturn ion (not redline) but i had so much fun with that car :D just be careful if you want to do an intake on the N/A ecotec, because the car won't correct for the added air and go into limp mode. Lol
@connorbottorff76642 жыл бұрын
I've got the 05 ion, not the redline and I got a compliment the other day. Made my day
@tony_51562 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure the gearbox in the Saturn is actually a SAAB transmission
@SJSOmar2 жыл бұрын
aisin trasnmission probably the f40 trans that every cobalt guy wants because they arent as brittle
@tony_51562 жыл бұрын
@@SJSOmar isn’t the F40 transmission the one that is found in the 9-5?
@tony_51562 жыл бұрын
@@SJSOmar or it that the F35?
@gbrunner242 жыл бұрын
F35 transmission from the factory, F40 came in the 9-3 and was a 6 speed. Much better design, we make a swap kit for it because the F35 is horrible.
@tony_51562 жыл бұрын
@@gbrunner24 I have the 5 speed, which is hooked up to a high mileage B205R (which has had money money dumped in to fix than the car is worth: 1.6K. Oil crank +new radiator) I’m thinking about maybe keeping the car or not, and maybe in the future turn it from a daily into a project.
@jackylomega2 жыл бұрын
I owned a Saturn ion redline with the stage 2 gm upgrade and a upgraded supercharger pulley. In the winter it made 32psi boost which made this car impossible to launch or get on before 60mph. It was fun but not easy to push hard
@hyperbomb022 жыл бұрын
"America's answer to tuner culture" We had a bunch of models, the Neon Srt4 appeared before these 2 cars, as well as the Escort Zx2 SR and Focus Zx3 ST. Even before those we had the Conquest STi and the Stealth. I know Hector's turbo Civics were stealing the show, but the US was doing their thing and we were all too busy to notice.
@wadecartwright427710 ай бұрын
You failed to mention the SVT that was the rocket ship of all those back then best car of all of those I should know I worked for Sound Ford of Renton Washington
@DDRPriest2 жыл бұрын
I went to an auto show that had a bunch of new cars to sit in and check out. I sat in an Ion Redline and didn't want to get up. Those Recaros are so comfortable.
@davedave28822 жыл бұрын
I was at my local Saturn dealership sometime in the 2000s I saw one of these brand new on the dealership floor, I had no idea what a red line was until then, and to this day I've never seen another one. And I'm the guy that breaks my neck checking out badass cars when I'm going down the highway.
@zacharytribou27282 жыл бұрын
i remember seeing a top 10 cars to buy for cheap as a first car and this one was one of them, and ive always been keeping an eye out because its just such an obscure car
@ricklawson82402 жыл бұрын
I remember them coming out brand new of the trailer when I worked for Saturn !! It was a great time doing PDI on them when they came in . Great times back then
@tokay572 жыл бұрын
Ha Ha, I worked for Ford dealership in 87-89, I did the pdi and dealer trades with the 5.0 mustangs gt's,lx, the sho taurus, turbo coupe thunderbird. Great times. I purchased my new dark blue, blue interior 88 lx notchback 5.0 at 19 for $11,500 out the door.
@tokay572 жыл бұрын
oh yeah, I currently have 2009 cobalt ss tc sedan. super clean, great car and will never sell it.
@CallusFutura2 жыл бұрын
I love these cars! My friend has a 04 cavalier coupe that he’s trying to build and supercharge. maybe one day his car will be on here.
@julioborges8712 жыл бұрын
Love all these videos. Showing all the cool concepts the brands had.
@isaactrujillo53962 жыл бұрын
It was cool meeting you in person. 🤙🏼 You’re going to have to do a video in my Mustang one of these days.
@jkon1562 жыл бұрын
never really been a fan of Saturn, however this car is pretty cool with all the performance goodies on it. I could grow to love it if I had some seat time.
@zackdl2 жыл бұрын
always had a soft spot for saturn cars, especially the sky/ion redline. I may have to get my hands on one of these things....So strange but so unique
@JB-sv5pr2 жыл бұрын
When I was 16 my dads girlfriend had sky redline I got to drive the car a lot it was so zippy had decent power but the suspension handled so good!
@joshuakhaos44512 жыл бұрын
Considering that I owned a supercharged SS, I'm Partial to the Cobalt. And yes, those Recaro's are the best. My S/C Cobalt had them and they were so nice on roadtrips.
@jamesborek81252 жыл бұрын
Those were all great/fun cars back then. Don't forget the original XRS Corella/Matrix and Vibe GT.
@nicksrandomviews1296 Жыл бұрын
My brother bought a turbo cobalt SS brand new and got it tuned and some other upgrades and it was stupid fast.