Just How Good of a Prospect is Cam Ward?

[@Aushauss]

I think the new format of building the player’s grades as you analyze his tape is a big upgrade

[@Cinator78]

I have a friend who got to know him in his couple years at Wazzu, everything I heard indicates 4:06 could not be a more true statement. Seeing him grow from exciting Incarnate Word prospect to the player he is today has been awesome. Cam is the best by every account I've heard of him, on and off field. Could not be wishing more for his success!

[@dennyoliver2463]

Love the format! Very well structured way to break down the highs and lows of a prospect! Excited to see all of your grades on this year’s prospects!

[@malmurchison3458]

This video was made for Giants fans... Even the seat geek promo, lol.... Thanks again!

[@xStrypes]

We gotta get Cam man

[@Sosaijustwnatalktoyou]

@@xStrypeshim with nabers😩

[@dopsound]

You don't know that

[@NickT79]

How you feeling?

[@Sosaijustwnatalktoyou]

@@NickT79 don’t care tbh

[@soddiepops3226]

Just wanted to note that in the beginning you said Cam has spent a couple years at Miami when this is his first and only year

[@jameshollister8294]

Probably meant Washington

[@cremedelapants8391]

@@jameshollister8294 Washington State*

[@gcates107]

What a fantastic and grounded breakdown. You really picked up on a lot of the nuance in his game that many miss as they stay attached to much of the narrative around his play and ignore the reality of what he’s been doing on the field.

[@klinkadink1345]

One of the only draft analysts I trust... thank you for putting these out even when they get demonetized!

[@dashielldecker8659]

Really love the format, in particular the new category updates. Love the pocket feel/improv stuff especially, it’s so great you highlight that because it’s so crucial with regard to NFL success. Some suggestions for added categories: maybe footwork/lower body mechanics, since you already have release. You could also add a specific category for touch/ability to layer throws over the middle. It goes along with accuracy but that sort of general feel is what separates guys like Brock Purdy from other guys with his work over the MOF, and it’s important to note that

[@ThatFranchiseGuy]

For sure! A lot of, if not all of the stuff you mention definitely shows up in my full writeup on him even if it doesn't appear in this video.

[@alejandrobrown9456]

0:11 thanks for shouting out my school! I’m and athlete at UIW rn. :)

[@jdelly30]

I did my own breakdown of cam ward just for my friends since some of them are giants fans. I’m proud after watching this video hearing that a lot of the strengths and weaknesses and question marks I had for him are similar to yours! I think cam ward would be a great fit on the giants with daboll if he’s still there. Also can’t stave how hard it is to find film on these prospects! Got my conte t taken down for “copyright”. The gate keeping is insane

[@gmabailey40]

Sadly the giants owner is not smart enough to keep Dabol. Mara will boot him and bring in a defense focused coach.

[@ryanMcknight27]

@@gmabailey40yeah keep the coach that’s terrible 😂 glad your a nobody

[@asacloutier7530]

As a Raider fan, my lowly farm team needs this kid. Sheduer will be nothing but trouble in the desert.

[@nathancarroll7347]

Great breakdown as always. Your draft content is your best content. Draft season is here!

[@mattwebber8134]

Excellent content. As a giants fan, I want Ward. This confirms it

[@davischalmers4245]

Really interesting analysis. I love how positive you are about Cam Ward as a prospect. So many analysts get themselves in trouble by taking a strong stance against a prospect.

[@hopsinburneraccount685]

I am waiting for the DJ Uiagelelei draft profile. Kid’s gonna go places

[@zackhurwitz9441]

Sarcasm?

[@hopsinburneraccount685]

@@zackhurwitz9441I didn’t specify where he was going, just places 😂

[@HeyHiHowdy6969]

Selling insurance is certainly a place.

[@vincentspitzer4364]

First overall pick for McDonald's

[@hopsinburneraccount685]

@@vincentspitzer4364Hey he’ll make a great real estate agent

[@FabriceSalomon-y3r]

Great breakdown of Cam Wards

[@WhiteRynoReviews]

Going to Bootcamp in January so I’m going to miss most of draft season, graduate in late march so I’ll be here for the streams! Excited to catch up on videos when I go to San Antonio for Corpsman school!

[@ThatFranchiseGuy]

Good luck! And thank you for your service.

[@zackhurwitz9441]

What branch?

[@WhiteRynoReviews]

@@ThatFranchiseGuy thank you sir! Excited to serve and catch up on draft content when I get to my school post Bootcamp!

[@WhiteRynoReviews]

@@zackhurwitz9441 Navy

[@WhiteRynoReviews]

@@zackhurwitz9441 the Navy

[@BoyGentil]

Great one, my friend!! Amazing job! Out of curiosity, will you do a Sanders one?

[@ferniethefiend]

If you listened, he said he would.

[@BoardandArrow]

I’ve never clicked on a video so fast. Giants fan here

[@alextracy9136]

Excited to hear your thoughts on this OT class in the months to come

[@stephencalhoun3034]

Love what you said about pocket feel and pressure management. Never heard anyone else talk about it like this and how important it is. As an Eagles fan, it's made me recognize it with Hurts and how bad it can be lol, but I'm smarter as a football fan. Thanks for the great content as always.

[@lanesansom9209]

There is nothing quite like the nfl draft season with you Marcus, can't wait to see all the great work you put out this off-season

[@jakethomas2848]

love the new format bro

[@thguz13]

I remember watching him last year and thinking he was an "unpolished Geno". This year he has greatly improved upon his pocket maneuvering skills and processing. Definitely still lacks some accuracy at times, and similar to Geno he trusts his arm a little too much at times and that will lead to INTs. If he gets drafted and put into the right system with a HC who can reel him in at times, I can see him being a top 12-15 QB.

[@DMary27]

Geno? Terrible comp, sanders is more like Geno, and thats a comp from his own coaches. Top 12? Why do people love to cap ceilings. Let the kid grow

[@ItsBLADE42]

@@DMary27 Multiple sources have comped him with Geno lmao, stop being a dick

[@danielfoulk9176]

Love that you let this out early, letting it be longer and more in depth. Hope Giants get him over Shedur

[@hark6668]

Great format. Excited for this draft season

[@jatnielrodriguez9287]

Love this content! Looking forward to the Sanders video 🙏🏾🏈

[@nicmccuistion]

great video! i was wondering if you would ever consider doing a video at the end of the nfl regular season about which players you'd select to make the pro bowl and get all pro honors?

[@dking6455]

Great work. Seems like an accurate assessment. Cam is exciting to watch. I hope it translates to the NFL.

[@williambeer2546]

im excited to watch this im very very low on ward nice to see some different opinions

[@Icyeagle28]

love the video, can't wait for the one on shedeur

[@rooneygasparpinto3342]

Great video! Keep the awesome work.

[@cainnedrow7724]

Been waiting on this one sir

[@skane260]

goat draft channel 🙏

[@JoSa26]

Awesome breakdown. Palatable for both casual and die hard fans!! Subscribed. Any chance you’d compare these pre draft analysis breakdowns to see how they may have grown in their categories after their first full season (eg how Jayden Daniel’s improved from LSU to year 1 commanders)?

[@brenodsp]

Hi Marcus! Love your work and all the effort you put into your work! I really enjoyed the format, revealing the grades. I’d suggest you also reveal your grade and draft value at the very end, just to keep the surprise 😅

[@ThatFranchiseGuy]

Yeah I though of that when it was too late haha

[@zackhurwitz9441]

Firstly, DRAFT SEASON!!!! secondly, thanks for the great content as always. Thirdly, it's an interesting comp you have for Ward. I've heard you talk glowingly about Love and Smith's arm strength

[@ThatFranchiseGuy]

For sure, QB comps are tough cause everyone is so different, typically gonna be able to poke holes in any of them with some traits that are different.

[@tvtda1]

@@ThatFranchiseGuy my comp was zach wilson vs better competition and more college experience, which might just be "good zach wilson" maybe? idk how it will go with him for sure.

[@EliteDragon31]

Great analysis! You should change the change of direction category to elusiveness to factor in contact balance as well

[@Ramboo000]

Draft szn baby

[@gmabailey40]

The one thing that worries me with Ward is the film study. Hes a good athlete just seems like hes playing back yard ball instead of breaking down a defense. Hes putting up the same stats as Dewayne Haskins.

[@ms728]

haskins relied on YAC, always did, never made any crazy throws…ward hasn’t

[@LL_Cool_Jon]

Wow. Before i saw the end I was thinking this guy would be a good fit for Daboll.

[@AidanMaxWhite]

Great Video - makes me think that Ward’s floor might be higher than everyone thinks. I kind of had the perception he would either be amazing or shit

[@chrisfish4788]

Can wait for the 2025 TFG draft board on Patreon😉

[@felixlara2945]

You should create a rubric with pro comps for each letter grade, also are the grades in comparison to college athletes or nfl athletes? The rubric would also reduce accidentally making player comps when describing a prospect because the specific trait you're speaking about would have the natural comparison built in so you wouldn't need to make the disclaimer that it's not a full pro comp

[@zackhurwitz9441]

Great idea. For example- Arm strength: A+ (Allen, Herbert, Mahomes)

[@felixlara2945]

​@@zackhurwitz9441I think Allen justifies his own tier, s tier

[@zackhurwitz9441]

​@@felixlara2945I think Herbert might be in that tier as well. Dido for Richardson. Allen and Mahomes have a lot more dexterity than anyone else though, on top A+ arm talent.

[@felixlara2945]

@zackhurwitz9441 you think it's comparable because Herbert plays most of his games in perfect conditions while Allen has started to be called the winter soldier

[@zackhurwitz9441]

​​@@felixlara2945When has he had a chance to play in those conditions? Josh is one of the best QBs ever in inclement weather, but it's like everyone has forgotten about all the interceptions he was throwing every year, up until now. I don't think Herbert would have an issue playing in that weather. I've seen Herbert execute every throw you can ask a QB to make. I think Josh has more arm talent, in that he's better on the run. You'd think Herbert was a lot better, if he was throwing to a top 5 WR at one point (Diggs) instead of just a great slot WR (Allen), a talented but often injured X WR (Williams), Josh Palmer and now QJ and a banged up rookie in Ladd. Herbert and Allen both have A+ arm strength. If there's a difference in either's favor, it's negligible.

[@manray371]

I had the same comp of Jordan Love when watching his game. I want him as a Giants fan not cause he’s and elite prospect but he has the It factor and he can grow into a great QB

[@DruiceBox]

I've been on the cam ward bangwagon since his first year at washington state. Just looked like an nfl player

[@jackryanshadowrecruit671]

Love it!

[@lamantia23]

Seems like a lot of his knocks could be fixed with development from the right coaching! Excited to draft him as a New York giant fan

[@craiglittle7367]

So when you doing Sanders?

[@wardog211]

I think something you didn’t talk about with Cam is the fumble issues. While his pocket feel is usually good when he’s got his eyes ahead, sometimes he forgets defenders that get behind him are still on the field. It really reminds me of Will Levis. So when he holds onto the ball a bit long he can take fumbles from behind. Overall I feel he reminds me of Levis with a lesser arm but a little more regular pocket feel. The decision making as well reminds me of that type of QB. I think if he ‘busts’ it would probably look something like Levis. But then again, there’s also stuff about Cam’s game reminiscent of Love liked you talked about, and going even further back he reminds me of Steve McNair. Definitely an interesting prospect but I’d probably only have him above Penix/Nix as far as looking back a year. I ended up liking McCarthy more and Jayden was higher for me as well. But in today’s day and age he’s definitely a guy that could go in the first round and it wouldn’t be a terrible overdraft. I’m interested to see how u feel about Shedeur. I think you probably will like his pocket presence a bit less bc he drifts backwards a lot, he also has less arm strength, but his accuracy, to me, is far and away ahead of anyone in this class. Love the content 👍

[@ItsBLADE42]

Feels like Will Levis???? WITH THE FIRST PICK IN THE 2025 NFL DRAFT THE TENNESSEE TITANS SELECT CAM WARDDDD!!!!!!

[@Domthgreat]

19:20 has me sold. Ward to the Giants please

[@MST24]

As a Titans Fan, I can live with a Joe Burrow

[@philibusters]

One thing that would make your evaluations better I think is to use data particularly advanced data to double check yoru rankings. You gave x on intermediate throws what PFF's grade on intermediate throws. What is the QB completiton above expected percentage? What is the average time to throw. What is the sack to pressure ratio? The problem is some of this data may not be available yet. For example what a NFL+ subscription gets you access to NextGen stats which gives you a lot of advanced metrics like to time to throw, completion above expected percentage, sack to pressure ratio for the NFl updated for Sunday's game on Monday morning, but there is nothing like that for college. The place to get it for college is PFF but its not a part of the basic PFF subscription. Once they put out their draft guide, it does include a lot of that advanced data that could help you refine your grade. It has clean pocket PFF grade, intermediate passing PFF grade, short passing PFF grade, completion above expected percentage, average time to throw, pressure to sack ratio, PFF grade out of a clean pocket, air yards, a lot of data that can kind of serve as a check, maybe I should raise this from a B- to a B because the PFF data is not necessarily bearing out what I saw, or maybe I should lower this from A- to a B. Film review I think is slightly more important than the data, but it can help contextualize the film.

[@hollywoodcal_]

Please breakdown Shedeur

[@Jcd5596]

Ahhh draft season. The only season my jets"have a chance of "winning". Can't wait 2 watch!

[@michaelhines9822]

Where’s the Shedeur Video ?

[@jaredcurrie5338]

CAN’T WAIT

[@felixlara2945]

Which specific grades would you change on jayden daniels given the chance even if you're just comparing the nfl film to the college film

[@ThatFranchiseGuy]

Processing would go way up and pocket presence even higher, even though I liked that about him.

[@waveoflead9]

Cmon man let’s see some more draft content!

[@jaydenfuller8429]

Can’t wait to watch the Shedeur video, I’m gonna bet you won’t love his film, my initial thoughts is that he shouldn’t be drafted before the third round

[@MrTreyshawn22]

This the time one these kinda takes start popping out for no reason

[@jaydenfuller8429]

@ I have plenty of reason🤣 he’s not good. He’s not better than Daniel Jones, I’d comp him to like Rattler. A diva that has decent arm talent but won’t ever amount to anything

[@zackaryhaselius2226]

Cam Ward looks like the kid Actor in the first IT movie.

[@Bartholomew12]

Can you do sheadur Sanders?

[@fantasyawait]

Cant believe you didnt mention Allen too at the start, very raw coming out the 3rd qb taken and had a rough rookie season

[@ThatFranchiseGuy]

I got him in there post edit! Just forgot to mention him

[@fantasyawait]

@ThatFranchiseGuy I figured! Love your content! Keep up the amazing work!!

[@tkelong3569]

I’ll tell you as a Giants fan who’s been watching video footage of Ward, I’m feeling like he’s the better of the 2. It feels like a win win situation but still looking more like Cam to me.

[@florian703]

Video Idea: Make your own All-Pro/ Pro Bowl selection

[@KelvinArzu]

Gotta do Shedeur Sanders bro 😭

[@sacredsymbol821]

Wake up babe TFG Draft Content is here

[@tvtda1]

my testimony of the Cam ward experience is for real ones who have been hip to him since he entered the transfer portal out of incarnate ward, and we heard he had generational arm talent, which perked our ears, and on face value, that checks out. like yeah, real deal, you go back to his years starting at incarnate ur really excited you even see it translate to Washington state, talent wise he's a sparkplug. you keep watching him and he starts seeming more like a firework over time. Hes a guy who before this year, as a stan you'd float his name as a top 5 QB and hear 5th round pick, which is what makes this awkward because either we were right about him or everyone with 5th round grades last year were wrong, and sometimes i feel like we were wrong because my deal with him is spread guy, narrow base, overly reliant on the rocker step. This will be a tale as a old as time, These prospect types are huge risks to me among a position of huge gambles. His release helps but when you deal with a guy who, not only flashes overly aggressive decision making but lacks consistent control of the ball accuracy wise and inconsistent mechanics, its hard to say you rely on anything particularly to take him top 15. his ascension has been historically strange.

[@obamadidyourmom]

Interesting. I’m a giants fan so I’m curious. But my reason for him being projected so high the NFL having brought so much attention to the qb position that everyone thinks it’s the main and rlly only think u need to succeed on a team. Reason as to y u see people like bo nix, Zach Wilson, etc get pushed up so high.

[@obamadidyourmom]

I’m a firm believe that when u look at a qb u can tell if he is Ass or not. It’s not rlly hard to tell. When I seen josh Allen I knew. Yeah they might have to clean up stuff like him w turnovers, but they have “it”. I watched cam ward against Georgia tech, he looked terrible. Loved his release, reminds me of Allen. Same as his frame. However, he’s like a statue in the pockets. Can’t move can’t evade. And when he was under pressure it was just miss after miss, he looked completely confused. Now it’s one game, but against an unranked team and not being at least calm in the pocket. Ehh dk

[@thommy_optmax]

Already waiting for your final evaluation of Travis Hunter. Will he be a CB or a WR in the NFL??

[@impqct7150]

Just a suggestion but would you consider revealing the draft value, grade and pro comp after everything else?

[@ThatFranchiseGuy]

Definitely will in the next one!! That was a mistake by me

[@manofthehills5001]

As a giants fan I’m happy to see a high grade on Cam. With all the talk about this being a weak class and with the Raiders and Shedeur seeming like a match made one heaven it’s good to know we won’t be settling for a consolation prize at (likely) pick 2.

[@StrongLikeSheep]

Where do you get the college film?

[@fahblizza]

The future New York Giant 🙏🏿💙

[@rektorik84]

you should get a 3rd jersey for the wall behind you and move the youtube button to the shelf

[@DK-BayBay]

I'd be curious to know what you'd do if your the Browns. IMO I'm trying to get to 1, and take Ward. The consensus this is a bad qb class is odd to me but thats a different talking point. For the Browns I dont see how you can go into 2025 with some bridge qb and a mid rounder and think that's going to cut it. You'll be fired before the 26 draft. Pairing Carter with MG is enticing, but their offense is historically bad. They could have two MG and still be a 5 win football team. Just enough to not pick #1 and change the franchise, and again youre fired. If theyre taking a qb, I'm still getting a vet to buy them time. Maybe its a month, half a year, of full year but you have a guy in your system ready to go vs revolving door of bridge options. Ppl consistently say "next years class is better" but NIL changed when ppl declare, and I recall many ppl being down on Stroud. Some had him qb 4. The funny thing each year is you'll hear how X prospect like Maye, Stroud, etc all hold on to the ball too long to make a play, but are good processors and ding them...they turn out to be pretty good.

[@clay550]

TFG can we get a video sometime on this draft class’ edge rushers?, Just want to hear your opinions on them since there are a bunch of good prospects.

[@ThatFranchiseGuy]

Of course!!

[@clay550]

@ thanks man love the content

[@kingoffedoras9932]

I think Cam Ward is the best QB in this draft class, but it all depends on if Deion gets the HC gig at NY or LV, cause if he does, rest assured his son is following him there.

[@zackhurwitz9441]

I'm 99% sure that he isn't leaving. Hunter even said he wasn't. Colorado just got another top QB prospect, and they're ascending quickly.

[@skully5063]

Colorado landed my local high schools QB, Juju is a phenomenal talent, I highly doubt Deion leaves

[@JakeMC521]

I will vehemently dislike any team coached by Deion Sanders

[@zackhurwitz9441]

​@@JakeMC521why?

[@justinrenaud4818]

@@zackhurwitz9441no idea why Deion gets so much shit from people. He’s definitely out there, but no doubt a good leader of men. I think his son’s attitude can kinda suck, but that’s not uncommon in any top QB prospect in college.

[@jlove2845]

My one concern with cam ward is his release. To really put the ball where he wants he needs a clean base/ pocket. Like you mentioned off of a clean base he can really let a ball ride, when the situations are great so is cam. But off script getting rushed and specifically when he has to throw off of his back foot or just use his arm to flick a pass he dips massively. Accuracy becomes spiratic and the mental also seems rushed.

[@jaygiant10]

Giants fan here scouting

[@patsmith1129]

We didn't get Anthony Richardson, we didn't get Drake Maye or Caleb Williams or Jaden Daniels, but now we can get Cam Ward if we don't fuck up the tank. I am ready to be hurt again. Pls giants don't fuck this up

[@Ryan-wx1bi]

Raiders will probably take him lol

[@patsmith1129]

@Ryan-wx1bi they have a relatively easy schedule from here out and the giants are definitely less talented, not saying it's for sure but not impossible. I also like shedeur and Milroe enough to go with them in the top of the first. Shit, even Allar might be an upgrade compared to the garbage we've seen for the past 6 years lol

[@thejuceisloose]

He chill af doe, number 1 overall imo

[@zj4008]

Cam Ward reminds me of Stafford if he came up in Modern day football

[@glassblowinggamer]

Titans fan here. Any ETA on that sanders vid?

[@colepratt7538]

Is that who we think they’re taking?

[@braytonnicholas2621]

Here’s my prediction for how marcus will grade this qb class Cam Shedeur Drew Allar(if he declares) Jalen Milroe Quinn(if he declares) Carson Beck Jaxson Dart Dillon Gabriel Kurtis Rourke Cade Klubnik

[@Ynkno]

Dillion Gabriel (if he declares)

[@braytonnicholas2621]

@@Ynknoi thought he was all out of eligibility 😂

[@Missiletainn13]

ngl i don’t think beck will be that high

[@jameshollister8294]

Kyle mcord

[@braytonnicholas2621]

@@jameshollister8294 I completely forgot about him i would slide him above Kurtis sliding out Cade

[@mr.irrelevent8956]

This year feels like the Kenny Picket year

[@ragethevictorious3060]

Best QB in the draft hands down, i like Sanders don't get me wrong, but Cam is a few levels above in my opinion. Arm strength, body size, football IQ etc. He'll go #1 in the 2025 draft.

[@wraynephew6838]

He tends to release the ball a little lower than expected. Not quite a side arm delivery. But to much of a wind up. I think this is the reason why he is wide sometimes with his throws.

[@felixlara2945]

Does off platform accuracy include the ability to change throwing angles? I think side arm throws are becoming common enough to deserve a grade, gone are the days where it's just Stafford and sometimes rodgers doing it

[@ThatFranchiseGuy]

It does not, that's something that does show up in his strengths/weaknesses writeup however.

[@Trendingup247]

What are the chances the qbs drop, similar to the Malik Willis Kenny Pickett class? I understand Sanders and Ward, are a bit better prospects, however with recent success with players like Russel Wilson, and even Justin fields looking serviceable I could see teams being a bit more conservative. Pair that with the draft class not being super deep, I could see a team in the teens being willing to move back to the 2nd round if the raiders or giants were to come back up for a QB after taking a true blue chip at the top.

[@daltondutton1420]

Can you do sanders next

[@prestonshaw8820]

more tier lists please

[@mattinnj979]

So, he can’t throw long, not terribly accurate, but is ok intermediate route? Yeah, I’m signing Darnold and trading back for Abdul Carter and a CB

[@chrishunt9675]

When is Sanders due? Leaning Cam but pros are leaning Sanders

[@matthews7400]

Breakdown: He throws a 65yd post. Also Breakdown: He has a B+ arm and cant take hole shots

[@Cyfe-II]

Make a Shedeur video!

[@bobshishka53]

Who's going to ruin this guy? Raiders or Giants would be my guess.

[@zackhurwitz9441]

I think if Daboll stays, he'll have a chance. If the raiders don't bring in an offensive coach, he's cooked.

[@Questionsoftheday]

Is QB your favorite position in the league to evaluate? Enjoy your analysis

[@jayrodriguez2408]

I can’t wait to have this guy in a Giants uniform.

[@tyclanton5868]

As a very biased Ducks fan, can we get a Dillon Gabriel breakdown?

[@jaimac81]

im glad coaches and society in general are opening up more to black qb they always been here well not always but doug williams 80s days they were far n few since the 80s up til mike vick then they started booming given opportunities i just know we missed out on some athletic ahh qbs