Punisher Humbles The Joker

Punisher Humbles The Joker
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[@thatguyzero]

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[@death-istic9586]

Hi

[@alessandrobozzi7085]

"You know, in Gotham we do things differently. We don't kill mass murderers." "Fuck you."

[@spade8094]

I want to see frank castle in sin city

[@juanveleda8762]

​@@spade8094 He already is. His name is Marv

[@spade8094]

Marv is the goat

[@bulbafett5001]

I do love it's canon that after Red Hood purged theh Drug Dealers in gotham, crime has permanently been slightly lower.

[@duskbringer4583]

"Explains places death count."

[@GRAH_GRAH_BOOM1]

I like how punisher doesn’t care if he kills people and that genuinely scared joker

[@minhducnguyen9276]

Can't toy with Batman if you are dead. Joker always sees the battle between him and Batman is an ideological battle. But the Punisher doesn't want to debate. He's only concerned with one thing that is Joker must die.

[@arnoldasbucys7786]

Punisher is violence and the answer is yes.

[@kidsyx]

I think its because joker lives to break rules, especially Batmans. What he clearly doesn't realise is the punisher doesn't have any, other than "punish the evil and wicked" 😂 the punisher is like the boogeyman to a dude like the joker 😂

[@Resident4Island]

This why Nolanverse Joker is the only one true Joker unlike the comic book Joker he is only one who actually broke Batman and doesn't fear death maybe beacuse he was an ex soldier. I think Nolanverse Joker would laugh at Comic's Joker pathetic attemp's to break Batman.

[@minhducnguyen9276]

@@Resident4Island Nolan's Batman did something several times worse than murder (using mass surveillance and interference with the legislation) even without making Batman committing murder, the trilogy Joker won.

[@shwetasingh5617]

If Punisher operated in Gotham crime rates in Gotham would have been reduced by at least 80% .

[@quanglinhnguyenpham1441]

no, things is gonna be way more worst. Criminal gonna be more crazy, more unpredictable, and even you kill some top notch like joker or riddler, there’ll be some evil bastard replace them with much more cruelty. Cause now they know it’s death or alive.

[@shwetasingh5617]

@@quanglinhnguyenpham1441 top dogs will fight to death but majority of low level criminals won't have the courage to fight him .

[@noneofyourbuisness1679]

While also reducing the population just through collateral damage alone

[@quanglinhnguyenpham1441]

@@shwetasingh5617 no my friend, they’re gonna be the most terror for Gotham city, if the top dog can’t save their life, then they’ll take everyone else to hell with them

[@hawdarkshooter]

@@quanglinhnguyenpham1441 no it wouldn't. Once you take out the Heavy Hitters like Joker, Two face, Bane, poison ivy, penguin, etc crime won't be the same. You just making excuses.

[@louthegiantcookie]

It's brilliant how quickly Joker's 'crazy' shtick gets dropped when he meets someone who won't play along and buy into the grift.

[@katkit4281]

Except in the canon DC universe Joker literally is so insane he has no fears.

[@Resident4Island]

Nolan Joker : Why So Serious.

[@alexsolomon8127]

well, it's like Jason Todd said to Joker once, when he was setting up a three way confrontation between him and Batman "I know your secret. Sure, you're crazy....but you're not THAT crazy." Joker wasn't laughing for that line. Same thing with Harley Quinn, really. She was always more than a manic pixie sidekick/brainless moll.

[@louthegiantcookie]

@@alexsolomon8127 Yeah, it's a con. And it makes Joker MORE evil, because he's perfectly sane - but plays the system and manipulates the empathy and decency of those around him to keep getting away with his antics. I do wish Batman would just get wise to it, though.

[@alexsolomon8127]

@@louthegiantcookie oh, he knows. you forget though..HE"S INSANE TOO.

[@Rockwolf66]

One thing I don't like about this run is that the writers forget that the Punisher is a Martial artist. He has studied eight different martial arts and trains to an extreme level. His fighting style should not be anger fueled brawling.

[@carlosvasquez1947]

thats what i hate about comic writers they would always nerf a character whens its convenient for the plot

[@Rockwolf66]

@@carlosvasquez1947 exactly. While Batman should be the better hand to hand combatant it should not be one sided and it should show that the Punisher is trained and disciplined in hand to hand combat.

[@mrplayfulshade]

Well did you stop to think maybe this isn't that same Punisher?

[@Tracer_Krieg]

Even beyond this, Frank has received extensive hand to hand training both due to his time in Marine Force Recon and canonically cross training with DELTA and SAS. While Batman would be better, Punisher would prove challenging nonetheless.

[@BlazingOwnager]

Ennis never wrote the punisher that way and his is the most iconic.

[@gamester512]

Reminds me of an exchange between Spawn & Joker in Mortal Kombat: *Spawn:* "Your angel of death awaits." *Joker:* "You can't kill me! Heroes have moral codes!" *Spawn:* "Who said I was a Hero?"

[@immortalfrieza]

An actual hero would be willing to kill The Joker, not to mention anybody else. That's part of being a hero, being willing to do whatever is necessary to stop villains like Joker from harming people, including killing them.

[@manojsinghkathait9551]

​@@immortalfriezaAny damn hero will not even hesitate to kill joker on the spot because how much dangerous he is.

[@leonelzubieta8636]

@@manojsinghkathait9551But he is Batman’s wife and Batman will defend Joker no matter what

[@manojsinghkathait9551]

@@leonelzubieta8636 that's some femboy shit which I don't want to argue on man

[@ervamoten5830]

​@@immortalfrieza All Might from My Hero Academia is view as the number one hero and the very symbol of peace, and he had the resolve to kill All For One, because All Might deemed AFO too much of a threat to humanity. But All Might failed because he didn't make sure AFO was fully dead. And we can see in MHA All Might had more than enough conviction to kill AFO the second time around despite failing and sending AFO to prison. Since All Might recieved a grave blow to his chest or torso in his first battle against AFO, All Might was losing the ability to use his power over time, so the second battle was more or less the last time All Might delivered a powerful blow using up the rest of his power. (P.S. the first MHA movie with deku in the battle against Wolfram where All Might used his power was something else and I don't wanna delve too deeply 😅)

[@ramell4]

If you fuse Punisher and Batman, you get Flashpoint Batman.

[@NhBleker]

Or The Grim Knight

[@manintheline5331]

@@NhBleker Or Jason Todd

[@HelldiverHusky2077]

Or maybe something completely more terrifying

[@2011maxik]

Ooo that's so true

[@davepowder4020]

Crossover time, The Punisher Who Chuckles!

[@legionofmetal9968]

The punisher is right. Absolutely right. I'm a batman fan but he is right. Once again, the batman allows the joker to get away due to self righteousness. The result is more will die. Castle is right. They deserve each other.

[@StudioPluche]

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[@immortalfrieza]

Batman has outright saved the Joker's life on numerous occasions, including now. Bruce is not just metaphorically but directly responsible for everything The Joker does.

[@greedysourceofgod4819]

​@immortalfrieza that's why I like the moment in dark knight returns where he acknowledged it

[@Fradth]

Batman too is a mental ill guy. If he don't kill its not because it will not solve problems, in cases like Joker who cares about a second, third, or billonth chance to redeem himself the important thing is to take him out of the range of innocent people, and thousands of times jails don't keep him locked a long time. Batman fear to become a psycho like Joker if he kill, and in some universes it effectively happens.

[@SpideyfanX]

​@@FradthThe only reason it happens in those universes is because of dumb writers. The only excuse I can give is Batman Who Laughs, since when Joker died, he released Joker Toxin onto Batman upon death.

[@theshizl4400]

If Frank can't get Batman to kill Joker no one can. On a side note, I miss the days when comics were comics and characters could fuck around in each other's universes

[@plagueofjoe]

Batman didn’t stop Punisher from killing random goons but did stop him from killing the mass murderer who organizes them.

[@GabrielMoreira-3669]

Hipocrisia?

[@zahirecoates]

Right ? Like make up your mind you can't just let me kill the regular threats but not omega level ones

[@BlazingOwnager]

This is quite possibly my most hated cliche in fiction. A hero that blasts through dozens or even hundreds of people, then won't take out the one behind it because "I don't want to be like you!"

[@juniorjunior5884]

None of those goons were his clown boyfriend, so he doesn't care enough to stop that.

[@SmeeHal]

Joker was made a bch. He found out some people aint playin games, like Bruce. This is why I love Frank Castle. No frills, No bullshit. " If youre guilty, Youre Dead "

[@EternalEmperorofZakuul]

Now imagine the Punisher max killing joker

[@eren34558]

Batman has gone out of his way to save the jokers life from everything, including an electric chair. No really, batman served as the jokers defense attorney

[@rustyjones7908]

I get Batman has the opinion that anyone no matter how evil can be redeemed, but I think once it costs lives maybe ask if your ethical opinions are worth the cost.

[@babayaga7434]

Which literally goes against his mantra of things being done by the books without his involvement

[@changvasejarik62]

I’m gonna have to ask for the issue and number. Because if that’s true, then it’s possible Billy Batson has a less naive view on the no kill rule. He’s a child and a bigger boyscout than superman and even he drew the line at saving Albrecht Krieger. But again I’d have to read the book first before judgment.

[@Crisis-Comics]

​@@changvasejarik62 The Joker: Devil's Advocate. The big moral dilemma of the story was more that someone else poisoned people with stamps and then pinned THAT on the Joker (resulting in him getting sent to death row instead of Arkham), but Batman realized Joker was innocent.

[@xdgaming70]

@@Crisis-ComicsAt least Batman is technically right. Without the context you made it sound like Batman defended Joker for what he actually did which is beyond bad

[@SuperXAsh]

Love the line “got all the therapy you need right here.” Joker had his smile wiped off there, realized Frank wasn’t fucking around.

[@3adgamd3r]

4:22 pause: Jokers “You’re really going to do it.” Absolutely stone cold, looking at what he wants Batman to be, and he was terrified of it.

[@Crimson_Sun2486]

He was scared because it _wasn't_ Batman who was going to pull the trigger. It has to be Bruce, or his death would be meaningless

[@MoaRider]

"NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T KILL MY HECKIN JOKERINO, I HAVE TOO MUCH FUN PLAYING WITH HIM!!!!!" Batman is a bigger clown then Joker ever could be.

[@bimates2690]

Man really risks the lives of innocents. We still expected to see him as a "hero."

[@triplecrosscounter]

"KILLING A MASS MURDERING LUNATIC THAT HAS SLAUGHTERED AND TORTURED MILLIONS IS BAD BECAUSE... uhhh... well... because... ...BECAUSE IT JUST IS OK?!?!?"

[@ColdNorth0628]

@@bimates2690 cause he feels it is not his call to make.

[@johnathanshade2578]

​@ColdNorth0628 bruce wayne could literally run for president on his own dollar and win if he really felt like making a difference. But why bother when beating up the mentally ill is so much fun?

[@pentacopter9909]

​@@ColdNorth0628 why did he stop punisher from doing it then?

[@ShadowdaHedgie11]

Yeah, the Joker is lucky the only hero who deals with him is Batman. There are quite a few heroes who simply wouldn't bother with Joker's bullshit and would just kill him.

[@rustyjones7908]

When Superman says he'd kill Joker if he set foot in Metropolis then maybe he's past saving.

[@GenericPhantom1]

0:36 The Punisher is a marine he 1000% knows martial arts.

[@D-class9341]

And? Batman has beat soldiers before

[@eugeneturner7520]

​@@D-class9341He was only a marine in some continuities; he's special forces in others - a literally Seal. Someone who should be able to go toe to toe with Batman and put up a decent fight - maybe not win - but hold his own.

[@D-class9341]

@@eugeneturner7520 The US military tests there experimental armors by giving them to the literal best soldiers and sending them against batman

[@mrthebillman]

The Punisher is NOT 'just a brawler', he is a Marine expert in hand to hand combat.

[@mytzyxptlyx]

Damn right.

[@Tacklepig]

Used to be maybe. As Punisher, he's little more than a mindless maniac.

[@mrthebillman]

@@Tacklepig ??? What noob told you that???

[@pantheman2842]

Even they can be overshadowed by Batman.

[@JPbarbosa8]

I would comment exactly that

[@GRR1MN1R]

you know shit hits to roof when Batman had to say to Joker to run away to save his life

[@JoSheperd]

*Joker would literally be toast atleast 90% of the time if facing Marvels heroes xD*

[@TheRedMan77]

I would like to see Joker try and pull his bullshit with Deadpool or Moon Knight.

[@Longder09]

@@TheRedMan77 deadpool would just broke 4th wall as usual, and for Moon Knight, you are quite right.

[@JRGProjects]

Two words: Scarlet Spider. Ben Reilly wouldn't put up with nearly as much crap as Parker and would have terminated Joker.

[@JRGProjects]

​@@Longder09Scarlet Spider, Kaine or Ben would rekt Joker and not think twice. Parker and Miles would let him live like Bats.

[@comicfan1324]

I like the fact that, although we can debate on whether or not Punisher should be considered a hero or not, it’s clear that someone like Batman would undoubtably see Frank castle as a madman who needs to be stopped. it just makes a lot of sense judging by Batman‘s moral compass that he would feel this way.

[@mrharvy100]

He is pretty much a Jason Todd Red Hood in his eyes and we already knows he doesn’t tolerate that.

[@bimates2690]

Nah, he's better than a hero. Dude actually removes POS of the earth. Not try to "rehabilitate" them (actual serious crimes. Not petty ones). Like the time he beat a human trafficker.

[@detectivepenegrande]

Dude, you should read punisher max, it explains a lot of the character, in a monologue he himself tells how he has a nightmare in wich he kills every murderer, every rapist, every corrupt politician to then ask who let those people live in the first place, to wich he points the gun to the average guy and he wakes up as he feels the recoil.

[@ColdNorth0628]

@@bimates2690 which can only leave behind a power vacuum. You need to understand what punisher does is short term and can only make escalation an answer. It does not dispell them, only weeds the weaker ones out. To say he is better also seems to forget that he himself would kill anyone for any reason, big or small.

[@TheMorbidlySane]

Moral compass? Batman is a violent narcissist that uses trauma to justify his actions. Dude beats criminals within an inch of their life and throws them in Arkham.. A place where villains escape on the daily. And he knows this. There is no way he doesn't with all the info he has at his disposal. He does this so he can keep up the charade. Ffs how long has he been batman yet, Gotham is still a cesspool of crime? He's a billionaire playboy and what does he do? Does he use he wealth to fix his beloved city? No, he spends money of high tech vehicles and secret bases so he can dress up and beat dudes up while dressed as a bat. Batman IS a villain. Or at the very least criminally insane.

[@japanesepokemoncardsbuydir9657]

Punisher is NOT just a brawler. Not Batman level but not a pub drunk either.

[@JohnwayneNOgacy]

Absolutely love when DC and Marvel come together. What a time to be alive !

[@TheKeefeStone]

Sure, Castle murders bad people, but Batman IS a Direct accomplice of Joker. He chooses not to cripple him, put him in a chair forever, or make him a quadriplegic, or take care of him permanently. Nope, instead he chooses to allow the psychopath who is also a master Houdini to continue killing.

[@bryanwoods3373]

He does that by letting the judicial system do its job. Faith in the system is the only way Gotham doesn't need a Batman. Everyone blames Batman like there are dozens of cops, judges, attornies, and psychiatrists that couldn't have done something. Even just deciding he's fit for trial and doesn't need to go to Arkham. Send him to Black gate to wait for the electric chair. Some cop or former victim assassinate him anywhere. They'd probably get found not guilty.

[@deewatsoon6036]

Joker in 1989, Batman Beyond, and Arkham Asylum very unlucky...

[@deewatsoon6036]

Michael Keaton's Batman didn't make that mistake...

[@immortalfrieza]

@@bryanwoods3373 After the dozenth time the judicial system fails to have The Joker executed for his crimes and/or fails to effectively incarcerate him, it very much does become Batman's fault.

[@manojsinghkathait9551]

​@@immortalfriezadoesn't Batman have high influence , fame, money and power huh? And he has the capacity to improve the laws and Judicial system. Batman is the reason why Gotham is suffering from crime and only if Batman used it's powers it will be a lot more different. Batman has everything on his side but he still decides to go full mode to make plans of "how to defeat your own friends" And when it comes to joker he be like "oh shit i can't kill you because of my code which is stupid as fuck and resulted in you killing many people"

[@Riley_Mundt]

The Punisher is just Batman from the 1940's before the "No Kill Rule" existed.

[@judesheckelberg5135]

The Batman that kills is the Batman that wins.

[@chaosgyro]

​@@judesheckelberg5135 We've always had that character. His name is The Shadow.

[@rouge9183]

The punisher makes sure the bad guy doesn't get back up that's a hero

[@DHworldwide185]

He ditched killing. It’s apart of the character and Batman is STILL a superhero.

[@rouge9183]

@@DHworldwide185 but Batman lets the villain live just for him/her to do it again

[@WebbedManiac]

Joker wasn't scared of the Punisher because he doesn't have a moral code, it's because he wants to be remembered. Take Injustice for example, Joker corrupted Superman and Superman took over the world. Joker may have died, but he would forever be known as the guy who changed the world. He made his mark on the world and there's nothing anyone could do about it. That's why he's scared here. If he dies to Frank, then he's just another criminal the Punisher gunned down. He's not special, he didn't do anything life changing. He's nothing, nobody. He dies as another common thug, just another name in the long list of Frank's victims. And that's what terrifies him beyond belief.

[@zerrodefex]

So he doesn't want to die at the hands of someone who will later say "for me it was Tuesday."

[@WebbedManiac]

@@zerrodefex Exactly. That's why Batman is so important to him because he does not kill no matter what.

[@fooliecoolie5284]

Punisher is just doing what batman's too afraid to do, actually getting rid of the criminal instead of repeating the same mistakes over and over and over again.

[@genjicrow]

Thats the point, Joker want to break Batman code while Punisher doesnt give a shit and in his eyes, Joker is a criminal he blast everyday.

[@judesheckelberg5135]

Bruce Wayne needs Batman more than Gotham.

[@yarukay5749]

how sweet of batman to protect gothams criminals from the punisher

[@hardyhardyha5767]

Imagine what would happen if the people of Gotham found out that Batman stopped Castle from killing the Joker. He absolutely didn't need to save the Joker here but he did so anyway. The people of Gotham would hang up with his own cape.

[@TOden4]

Ya know the whole Joker/Batman love story has been going on for far too long. Can they move away from the Joker for at least 10 years and let some other characters shine?

[@Theprimaryfocus]

I've been saying this for years

[@Snakeskin94]

I would be so ok if they killed off Joker for a while

[@bimates2690]

​​@@Theprimaryfocus Your username essentially sums up all the drama that could've been avoided if he did.

[@alexsolomon8127]

@@Snakeskin94 the problem with killing off the Joker is canon has proven time and again that the universe abhors a vaccum. So if one Joker dies, another will rise. the freaking 5th dimensional imps will find an excuse. (noone can convince me the whole "ride down from high orbit with pinpoint accuracy using my standard costume and my UNDERWEAR as a heat shield" during the failsafe storyline was anything other than bat-mite bending the rules of physics for his "favorite" But.....there are ways to work around that. Once upon a time, DC's tangent line had a HEROIC Joker. what if someone delibrately created a non-homicidal verison of him, then killed the original off/forced him into retirement? there could literally be a magic ritual ala Zatanna/bat Mite himself after he loses a bet to transfer Joker's plot armor to someone else..and Joker realizes that without it, some cop or nameless nobody is just going to SHOOT his ass the next time he leaves his cell. Can't have that. Can't be killed by ANYONE other than the Bat. So he'll wait it out for a few years. He knows THEY will get bored of "all mischief, no malice" soon enough.

[@johnfisher9692]

I agree, Joker in not just a criminal anymore, He is now a mass murdering terrorist and if Batman continues to protect him at the expense of innocent victims, he is an accessory to all Jokers crimes and warrants should go out for his arrest.

[@BlazingOwnager]

"He is just a brawler, pure rage and brute strength." Tell me this was written by a Batman fanboy without telling me it was written by a Batman fanboy... Punisher's one of the few characters who plans and plans and plans almost as much as Batman, he just does so with lethal intent.

[@atomic747]

I mean..does punisher know other fighting techniques aside from when he was in the marines?

[@Kingsaxxy3872]

@@atomic747 Think he actually knows ninjutsu, shorin ryu, chin-na, and hwa rang do. So outside of military training he’s good in other h2h techniques, doesn’t help that he normally goes against people better than him tho.

[@weskintime4177]

I’m tired of the stories showing Batman as a dumbass. I want more like the time he just let Joker die and went to save Harley Quinn (who was trying to kinda start anew at the time I think) and Joker just blew up.

[@flying1dead155]

I've always had a theory Harley was a victim of jokers chemical expertise . My evidence bieng from the 90s cartoon Harley and the victims both have yellow cat eyes and teeth . And a wide smile . I think the make up she uses is laced because the cartoon is kinda based on the 89 movie and joker tainted beauty supplies and thats why batman was so quick to trust her . Because he knows that deep down she cant live with what she did and needs to atone and at the same time own that persona and also at this point the chemical damage is permant but not so serve that shes a unrealable family member 🤔

[@deliciouswaffleong]

Punisher doesn’t fuck around

[@VincentMcmanus.]

Wait, Frank, just a brawler? No. Absolutely not. We've seen Batman get injured by untrained brawlers. Frank is not untrained. Frank has been trained, and can fight exceptionally well. This part of the comic really bugs me.

[@wallsterrence]

Yea it bugs me too frank is great h2h

[@j-sant-animations8105]

They probably nerfed the hell out of him for batman to stand a chance.

[@VincentMcmanus.]

@j-sant-animations8105 seems like that's how Batman comics are all written these days. They nerf anyone fighting against him, but buff Batman himself. Batman has the strongest plot armor in all of comics because the writers say so. It's like they're scared of writing him as having any kind of limitations or weaknesses.

[@D-class9341]

​@@j-sant-animations8105dawg batman would molest the punisher if he wanted to 💀

[@KamenRider1]

​@wallsterrence People forget he's a Marine and they have their own (comprehensive) Martial Arts program.

[@indumatipngtuber2790]

"We in the Gotham PD can't give The Joker the Electric Chair, because DC needs to sell more comic books!"

[@NhBleker]

I like how in recent decades that DC has at least tried, and somewhat succeeding, in showing a good reason as to not kill The Joker as with Injustice Superman, Batman Who Laughs, Three Jokers, and Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker, that whoever takes out Joker will be the next Joker, or something worse than the Joker ever was.

[@armandoventura9043]

Yeah, and the worst thing is that they leave more interesting villains like Bane, Two-Face, Mr Freeze or the Court of Owls aside just because they want to push the Joker to sell more

[@troydelk2047]

Frank is highly trained special forces soldier one of the best hand to hand combat

[@GnosisZX]

What I love about punisher is he instills fear with just his actions no bat costume and theatrics required

[@davidjecmenek8943]

Punisher was never before "just a brawler".

[@judesheckelberg5135]

The Punisher is definitely NOT just a "brawler"...

[@BnT904Loyal]

Imagine a bunch of goons catching Castle on his way out of Gotham, and thinking he's a easy mark😂

[@jimmyju76]

left out the part where Frank made the Joker pee his pantes 😂😂

[@ivandark95]

Joker : the one who laughs batman Joker : the one who fear punisher

[@LordOmnissiah]

Can someone please tell me why they don’t just lobotomize Joker already like they did in that one episode of Justice League? It made him sane in that timeline!

[@TaraD1999]

Because it wouldn’t make for a good comic. Plus they did it once why again

[@bryanwoods3373]

That's the real answer. People keep blaming Batman, but Joker would already be dead in a more real world. He was supposed to die in his first appearance. No one truly stays dead in the comics.

[@WayneDave195]

@@bryanwoods3373 People are absolutely right to blame Batman. Batman saved the Joker when he was supposed to have the death penalty by electric chair.

[@bgt2848]

Batman - “ this is not how we handle things in Gotham” Punisher - “no shit that’s why it’s a shit hole”

[@ElMizMike]

I like how Punisher criticizes Batman for letting the Joker go and not trying to kill him, when he couldn't even kill Jigsaw when he tried.

[@OhNoTheFace]

Oh boy, two plot armours against each other. **deadpan** How thrilling

[@D-class9341]

People when I tell them all characters in fiction have plot armor:😭

[@tarn1135]

My absolute favorite Punisher moment was way back in a little know Marvel UK comic called Death’s Head 2 issue 4 (I think). In the the opening pages you see an apocalyptic earth where this big bad named Charnel was attacking Spider-Man, the Punisher, and a few others. I don’t remember exactly what the heroes had that this bad guy wanted (probably the only thing that could defeat him) anyhow Frank had it and Charnel said “Give it to me and I’ll make your death quick and painless.” and Frank’s reply was to throw it to someone else so they could get away with Frank turning back with just a knife saying through a smile “What were you saying about pain?”

[@NerdAlert8910]

Punisher in Red Hood would get along really well.

[@joserendon6199]

Batman will never let his only great love be hurt

[@thewho2482]

Its really easy to kill batman. Aim for that mouth

[@D-class9341]

He literally has a mouth guard also he's dodged bullets from deadshot

[@thewho2482]

@D-class9341 bullet mouth guard that stops all bullets. And has the speed to dodge bullets. The plot of amor get bigger and bigger all the time

[@D-class9341]

@@thewho2482 as if frank didn't literally somehow beat everyone in marvel

[@thewho2482]

@D-class9341 my problem is the writing with batman. Yes, it's a comic. But dam some of the feats are a joke.

[@D-class9341]

@@thewho2482 just don't read the garbage justice league stuff with constantly increasing stakes. Stick to the classic one off stories where batman is actually human

[@nrgentertainmentartist8668]

This Batman should have learned from Nolan's Batman: "I won't kill you Joker. But I don't have to save you."

[@EvandroACruz]

No Batman never should someone to die. It's part of your moral code. The dude had your parents killed before your eyes,so he hated to see even a mass murderer die makes all sense.

[@nicknick_nick]

Its such a pain to know of the existence of all of the stories where joker should've died but didn't

[@FerretJohn]

While Punisher rarely engages in hand-to-hand he isn't "just a brawler", he has extensive training in military close combat. True, he is no match for Batman, but he can fight without guns.

[@Kingsaxxy3872]

Hell Punisher is actually skilled in martial arts even ninjutsu apparently, he just so rarely uses it no one knows he does it.

[@multigatawny5204]

Remember when back in the day DC and Marvel were doing a lot of crossovers? Good times

[@changvasejarik62]

I do miss the days where even Joker had enough fear and Selfpreservation instincts to surrender when outgunned.

[@inflameddrip180]

People forget Frank see's himself as a villian not even a anti-hero just a straight villian... ...if he sees a mugger he'll drop him dead without question as to why and its very clear in mutiple forms of media that he doesnt respect heroes who lock up criminals; with captain america being the only exception And he knows what he's doing is wrong which makes it even worse but further proves his point he is no hero he never was He is revenge incarnate he is: THE PUNISHER 💀 he punishes people who he thinks deserves it, he is a villian he always was

[@AP-vi4cj]

Joker doesn't fear dying; he fears dying for nothing. If Batman kills Joker, the Joker wins because he will just be a victim for society, but if the Punisher kills him, he will just be another low-life thug that The Punisher wiped from the streets.

[@xelldincht4251]

Punisher and Jason sure would become best buddies

[@joebob7998]

When I heard jigsaw I just thought tobin bell LOL

[@christianponce4836]

ngl i respect punisher alot more than batman

[@D-class9341]

I don't. Batman donates millions to charity and it's cannon that crime in Gotham has lowered

[@Kratos0n]

@@D-class9341bah, that’s to feel better about himself and a way of easing the guilt of having the blood of all those innocent victims of the joker on his hands.

[@D-class9341]

@@Kratos0n ot shouldn't be he's job to kill the joker. Notice how every time joker goes on trial he's never given the death penalty. Not to forget that it's canon that Batmans crusade has lowered the crime right by 60% and that's not counting his war on political corruption stopping multiple wars and saving countless lives

[@Dr.Gaming98]

@@D-class9341Batman has saved joker from being killed MULTIPLE times, including by the electric chair. He was even his attorney once. Batman is VERY MUCH an accomplice of the jokers murders at this point.

[@D-class9341]

@@Dr.Gaming98 I don't know which comics your reading since in current canon he has never done that

[@Warhawkx]

Seeing the Joker's fear is priceless.

[@StudioPluche]

Quite difficult not to side with Punisher on this one.

[@plasmahandoku1073]

These are one of the few times Joker was actually scared. Other than the time when he tried to play a prank on Superman he took it serious where it wasn't even fun for the Joker. Punisher on the other hand is the direct opposite of what Batman's code is and the moment Joker saw this he was shitting himself. If Batman never intervened he would have been a dead man.

[@gamemasternintendoo]

And it’s stuff like this that makes me hate the whole superhero genre. You have villains like the joker who kill people just for the sick and twisted pleasure they get out of it, yet instead of putting him down like the rabid dog he is, Batman continues to lock him up in a facility that is not able To contain someone like the joker. I mean seriously!!! Where are the geniuses of the DC universe? Get a couple of them together, get them to design an escape proof prison!!! Hell!!! Get Superman to use the phantom zone generator on the worst criminals like the Joker. Villains who are Irredeemable

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

Because then writers couldnt use him again

[@auzzie4435]

This shows Batman is a coward

[@EvandroACruz]

No true heroes don't kill.Even Joker's life is sacred.

[@The-Spanish-Inquisition490]

The Punisher not a brawler. He knows every martail art just like Batman only Punisher wasnt trained by the League of Assassin's like Batman. Never forget that Punisher has beaten DareDevil on multiple occasions, who is equal to Batman, and Punisher has no qualms or morals with killing holding him back.

[@hot_soup4319]

Mfers be like "Batman should kill Joker already" like, what's literally stopping anyone else though considering Batman literally won't? Like you just just wait until Bats is preoccupied with something and just snipe Joker from a rooftop. Hell Joker makes a big show outta everything, you're telling me no one civilian owns a gun in Gotham and is willing to shoot Joker during a monologue? Red Hood almost did it but insisted on making a show out of it and luring Batman to him, coulda shot the J-man from square 1. Joker's been arrested countless times, not one cop is willing to risk prison or getting fired to just shoot a literal terrorist? Why doesn't Batman kill Joker? Iunno probably for the same reason no one else does.

[@glitchedoom]

I just want to scream "because then there wouldn't be a story" to all the comments like that.

[@hainleysimpson1507]

The fuck? That's not true. If the writer can't come up with new interesting things then the writer is a coward or not that good at creating original ideas. ​@@glitchedoom

[@seniorprrotm8163]

The in universe explanation it's because most people in Gotham including villains know that Joker is coming back eventually, and they don't wanna have him coming for them when he does When it comes to heroes, they usually leave it to Batman because it either isn't their city, they feel like Batman needs it, or Batman stops them to save Joker, the one time he didn't was because Harley made a situation where he had to choose between saving Joker's life of hers

[@reinxraidenchannel9807]

Let's be honest, when it comes to Batman not killing Joker, it is fucking terrible and makes no sense at all.

[@itlog3722]

Batman is such a Joker simp.

[@JoJoDude1997]

If i recall corectly theres a run of punisher were he admits that hes "relationship" whit jigsaw aint mutch diferent than the one of batman and joker

[@javiersantanaaviles5885]

The Joker doesn´t want to joke around with The Punisher

[@tarn1135]

Ah the days when the major comic companies actually had crossover limited series events.

[@nihilsnake4017]

I remember when I did that to the Joker (I am literally The Punisher)

[@Mae_Dastardly]

No you're not rigby! Raccoons can't be the punisher dude they're not big enough

[@aliceslab]

Unlike Batman, he's a good person because a bad person would let bad people keep doing bad things .

[@EvandroACruz]

No he a insane man and a cold blooded murderer. Life is precisou and nobody have the right to decide who lives or who die.

[@aliceslab]

@EvandroACruz it is because i view all life as sacred that allowing others to take life is wrong. Punisher isnt murdering innocent people, innocent people would get murdered however if the bad guys basically are never allowed to face consequences

[@EvandroACruz]

@@aliceslab Bad guys always face the consequences for your crimes usually at least in comics.

[@aliceslab]

@EvandroACruz but when it comes to batman he faces the same villains multiple times because they just break out in one way or another.

[@EvandroACruz]

@@aliceslab Every Superhero face the same problem. Supermna fightas with Zod,Brainiac and Mongul for decades ans all them are genocidal monsters. This is how superhero comcis works.

[@M613M]

Whats with all the random comments of people that have never heard of a crossover? Just wait until they find out that Superman and Wonder Woman held Mjolnir...

[@NeoRazgriz]

Ironically, the dumb mind games Joker likes to play with people do NOT work on Castle. Castle KNOWS he is a killer and doesn’t care or apologize for it; because his results speak for themselves. Punisher had better results versus the Joker after only 1 fight; compared to the countless encounters Batman had with the Joker. How necessary IS Batman since his methods against the most vile criminals always seem ineffective? They always escape and do more harm to others with no resolution (no justice or punishment)

[@JRGProjects]

If Joker faced Daredevil, Moon Knight or Scarlet Spider he wouldn't make it.

[@EvandroACruz]

Moon Knight is against kill usually too. He just are more violent.

[@lonestarwolfentertainment7184]

The thing about the Joker is that he doesn’t want to be killed by anyone EXCEPT Batman (and sometimes Superman), he wants to be the one to make the Superhero break their No Killing Rule, any other type of death would be unsatisfying.

[@illiteratearfi]

2:33 I just realized that this panel of Punisher looks exactly like the panel of Bruce from Batman Year One.

[@WayFinder42]

This feels like a commentary by the writer about a lot of the awful writing of "morality" in Batman stories... and they're totally right

[@langbo9999]

Batman is the man who didn't lost hope in Humanity But The punisher did.

[@judesheckelberg5135]

Bruce Wayne only has faith in his costume.

[@JohnBerry-q1h]

The Punisher would steal Joker’s acid-squirting boutonnière, and use it against him. Same for the handshake joy buzzer.

[@GenerationX1984]

The 1990s Spider-Man cartoon on Fox Kids is the first place I ever saw The Punisher. This was before I knew about the 1989 Punisher film and the 2004 Punisher wasn't even out yet.

[@2011maxik]

As much as Batman is my fave hero, Punisher would be more effective at reducing crime in Gotham than him

[@Cosmic_DBD]

3:40 reminds me of that one quest in the Witcher 3 lmao

[@NhBleker]

I wish a crossover like this was possible nowadays as a result of Injustice and the dark multiverse existing in DC comics that gives us Injustice Superman, and The Grim Knight who are what Frank Castle is, but who didn’t stop and became worse monsters than those they were fighting against. It be interested to see someone like The Punisher confront these individuals, where it be like looking into a mirror and it challenging him on where does he cross the line to not become like these twisted individuals, or if what those like Batman, Spider-Man, Daredevil, and etc have actual substance in why they don’t like like he does.

[@elikyiael8740]

the joker don't give a damn about dying, he basically dies in every major turning points, evil justice league and all that

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

Joker hates dying a meaningless death, he wants batman to kill him to break him but this wouldnt work on Frank. Frank is the perfect counter to joker

[@RicklessSanchez]

Now that true revenge.

[@diglettunnel.kaneko]

He needs joker so he can be the worlds greatest detective Otherwise what will he detect

[@davidsavage5630]

I would like to see Heath Ledger's version of Joker in this scenario. I think he was smart enough and fearless enough that if he had just enough heads-up on what Punisher was all about he could have gotten into his head too. Not saying Punisher wouldn't still kill on sight and that he wouldn't be a harder nut to crack than Batman....just that THAT Joker wouldn't make it so easy. He'd have something up his sleeve that muddied the water enough and confused Frank enough that he'd still be a worthy adversary. He'd have to KNOW beforehand that Frank absolutely will shoot him dead with no hesitation though. Give him that and he'd figure something out..

[@c.m.cameraman7918]

Also it appears Frank hasn't learned his lesson the last time he tango'd with Batman.

[@ericwisniewski5651]

If punisher and batman formed a team of team work they coukd end crime in every city near

[@CalculusIsFun1]

If Punisher was in Gotham, either Sinestro or Atrocitus (or both) would have a powerful new recruit.

[@jdeckgaming3565]

Redhood would love the punisher

[@causewecanthavenicethings]

we need animated movie about this

[@TheKing-uu7jn]

A marvel dc crossover I never expected

[@c.m.cameraman7918]

How in the hell? Thought these two are from different universes.

[@channely.z.h]

Joker:Change Partners(Arch-Enemies) and Dance! Later:Punisher would give the "therapy" to Joker but Batman Stops.

[@Enclave_official_420]

I think it'd be cool if there's a comic where Batman hangs the joker