ULTIMATE air-cooled Porsche 911 Turbo group test *Part 2: 964 & 993 years*

[@cornishrider]

The 964 is absolutely stunning, my favourite

[@PrimeMatt]

964 is by far the best looking 911, especially that 3.6 turbo

[@bubbajohnson8098]

The 1993 964turbo👍👍👍👍👍👍...best looking 911style, hands down!!!!!!!!

[@I.LikeCars]

Love all 911 Turbos but the rear end of the 993 Turbo is amazing to my eyes.

[@johnsnowdon2939]

964 Turbo is the best of the air cooled turbo stable - perfect blend of that classic shape with more modern suspension, steering and brakes. Peerless build quality. Then again, I'm biased as I have one :-)

[@matthews852]

It’s the best looking 911 ever made..

[@johnfeliciano585]

Bad Boys 1995

[@jakkovaningen8350]

What a great video. Visually, the 964 is so much more appealing (to me), that would always overrule the technical superiority of the 993 for me.

[@9WERKSTV]

Thanks Jakko!

[@jonwarshawsky5288]

Nicely done. I’m in the camp that prefers the iconic style and vestiges of early 911 mechanical feel in the 964, but clearly the 993 is also a future classic. The 3.6 split rim wheels are works of art, by the way. Among the best ever, along with 964 Cup Ones and the 992 RS Spyder-style.

[@jimhimesjr]

While the 993 may be superior in every way the 964 still is the best looking 911 to me

[@detonator2112]

I disagree. It's a tie. 993 ass is the best looking and 964 has the best looking front. You simply can't beat the fat ass of the 993 widebody. Can't afford either but that's how I feel. Cheers.

[@jc87930]

The 993 is like Cilantro. Some people love it, some think its hideous. :)

[@detonator2112]

@@jc87930 Some people think 964 sloped rear is hideous. If you take an average guy from the street, I'd say 90% say 993 is the better looking car of the two. Actually I don't know anyone who thinks its hideous. Maybe you, as a 964 owner?

[@ernestcapbert3175]

You wouldn’t have said that 10yrs ago… singer… 993 is more practical, better designed and better looking/ although subjective. The 964 has a small shelf life between the g series and the 993.

[@City1Tiger]

@@ernestcapbert3175

[@QFXmusic]

Great video lee :) Best Porsche i ever owned 993 Carrera S..What a machine

[@9WERKSTV]

Thank you!

[@cressmanfoster]

Thank you so much for addressing the 965 misinformation!

[@9WERKSTV]

The pleasure is all mine, it's a real bugbear for me.

[@EuroYardService]

I’m so happy this was made very clear early on in the video 😊

[@massimobernacconi628]

Finally somebody who says things which are historically correct (ie. 965 vs 964 Turbo)

[@EuroYardService]

People calling the 964 turbo a 965 drive me nuts

[@thedude579]

I prefer the 993 over the 964 looks in the normal Version. The best looking turbo is the 964 though.

[@arronjones6985]

993 is definitely my favourite.

[@seanquigley3624]

Having owned and driven every day, a 911 turbo LE for 1 yr and a 993 turbo for 3 yrs owned from new, these cars are like chalk and cheese, the LE is awesome car, the 993 whist a truly great car is just a quick sports car with very little character, 964 sits much closer to the LE.

[@ME-ck8yl]

Great episode again. A friend had a 964 3.6 turbo in horizon blue about 15years ago I think this is the best looking 911. A lottery win car.

[@techlaw997]

I’d love to hear you go through the 997 turbo generation. I’m learning a lot about the history and the design so this is great. Thank you.

[@views40]

AMAZING series!! Stellar research and very well written. Wonderful job. Thank you!! :-)

[@hassanalihashmi5134]

The 964 and 993 are both great cars I remember being told the 993 pedals are slightly offset making it awkward to drive. I hope you continue series with the 996, 997 Gen 1, Gen 1.5 which are apparently very rare and even more so with a manual gearbox the Gen 2 which with a manuals gearbox also made in limited numbers, the 991.1, 991.2 and finally finish off with the 992.

[@911aircooled5]

all air cooled pedals are offset, the 993 was no different to the others.

[@hassanalihashmi5134]

@@911aircooled5 Argh ok didn’t know that, still great cars

[@911aircooled5]

@@hassanalihashmi5134 Fantastic Cars!! The offset I actually like, pedals are close and it makes it easy to heel n toe. cheers

[@grande_007]

Great content as always Lee. As someone once said, nostalgia, not what it used to be. The 993 wins for me but great to see evolution rather than revolution very much demonstrated by Porsche.

[@normsallitt2753]

Great videos on the Turbo's! Please continue with the 996TT/S and all water cooled Turbo's that followed 997.1, 997.2, 997.2 S & 992/S. Thanks

[@MrJobba1]

2 of the best cars of all time

[@benbustama3430]

Great/informative video! 993 FTW. My fondest automotive memory occurred in Aug 1998. I visited a local Pcar dealership to purchase/order my first new Porsche. While chatting with my SA, the SA offered me a test drive in a slightly used 1998 993TT in arena red metallic. I took the car out - alone! After driving this monster, and upon approaching the dealership, I recall my legs trembling & my nerves caused my entire body to shake in bewilderment/astonishment. What an awesome freaking car! I was literally in awe of this car’s performance! SA advised the car was owned by a 70 year old man who claimed the car was too rough for him. Dealer wanted $100k for the car. That was more than I wanted to spend on a car so I ordered a 1999 996.1 Carrera in Guards Red. Car came in at under $69k, and I got a discount of a few thousand off MSRP, so the car cost me around $65,900. Fast forward, and I never forgot the impact that 993TT had on me. It took the fun out of owning the 996. Kept the 996 for three years and moved on…. The 993TT is the cat’s a$$! Biggest regret in my life was not getting that beautiful arena red 993TT! To this day, that 993TT was equivalent to losing out on the finest attainable woman extant! Oh how I cherish & admire the owner of a 993TT!

[@crissignori7482]

never give up hope .... It's one masterpiece and I have loved owning mine - black and beige 20k miles ... very special. Best of luck to you in one day getting yours.

[@justinevans1894]

Fantastic film. I would love a 993 turbo

[@trentonhodson1675]

What an amazing comparison video! So much detail. We’ll done.

[@jamesryan5436]

Two of the most iconic machines of all time

[@911aircooled5]

Well done Lee, as you know, already stated, the 993 turbo was the best and most useable, imo. Owned a few, and the 993t was tremendous! Well put together and researched.

[@9WERKSTV]

Thanks for your kind words, they are always appreciated. I'm glad you liked the film and also rate the 993.

[@jsolo2575]

when did you make this video mate?

[@pascal-regisdelfosse1852]

964 Turbo 3.6 / 965 : The Porsche's icon absolute

[@Brian-os9qj]

A style of 911 I could live with for sure

[@varmastiko2908]

This is very high quality work. I respect the fact that you give us so much actual information on these cars where most channels would simply focus on slogans and feelings. One thing you didn't mention is that the 3.3 964 still retained a K-Jetronic -derived CIS fuel injection system which made it quite different from the era's normally aspirated cars that were full on EFI at this point. Though the great Paul Frere must have mentioned it in his excellent book, I've lost my copy so I'm asking here: Did the Turbo 3.6 also still make do with mechanical fuel injection? And if yes, how does that compare to the EFI-equipped 993T in terms of drivability and perhaps in terms of fuel usage? Thank you for the good work that you do.

[@alexbrodie2930]

Fab video Lee. As always i learn a great deal from watching these! You are the porsche oracle!!

[@9WERKSTV]

Thanks Alex, I highly appreciate such kind words mate.

[@Corvolet5]

The 993 is just a beast, barely matched by anything around its time

[@uweboker5983]

The Icons of the 911-series are by far the 964 and 993s.

[@Rob02138]

Brilliant!

[@kszendi]

964 turbo takes it for me. Classic looks that haven't been replicated since. To me 993s always looked as if they don't fit in with classic Porsche DNA(frumpy looking and soft). Same can be said of the 996..

[@ghowells5433]

Great video, looking at swapping my gt3 for a 992 turbo as a more all rounder so looking forward to the next one in the series

[@ianmitchell9102]

Yet again thank you, I was really looking forward to part 2. You said the x50 pack on the 993 was 430bhp, and 450bhp on the final year, wasn’t the turbo s 450bhp ? I wonder if you could buy a standard 408bhp and still get Porsche to upgrade it to 450bhp. The 993 turbo has been my dream car since I was 17 years old and saw one in a showroom. Believe it or not I had the chance to buy one in 2006 for £28k !!! Yes my old landlord had a collection of 911 turbos including two 993’s, I went on and on at him about how much I loved them, he said “ give me £28k and it’s yours “, I tried several banks to get a loan, I was earning about £300 per week as a motorcycle courier, and I just couldn’t get the money, I still have nightmares about it now. I never would of sold it if I had got it, but the fact it’s probably worth £250k now would of been a nice feeling. Great video

[@inadapte74]

Great video as always

[@sergimontagut]

Amazing super cars and amazing video. Thanks!

[@YunusEmreKymaz]

If i say which are best, definitely 80's era 930 Turbo (G50) and my favourite of course 993 TT.

[@ggkik]

Excellent presentation and info delivered, as always! Did the X50 package provided to the 993TT also a limited slip diff, as the next gen 996TT did?

[@jsolo2575]

when was this video made please??

[@marklawrence6433]

Excellent Lee, put across brilliantly and great information ! 👍

[@9WERKSTV]

Thanks Mark.

[@philnj1962]

Brilliant Lee, love your channel, more like this one please 🙂

[@9WERKSTV]

Thanks Phil.

[@elektro3000]

The one and only thing this leaves out is the ultimate air-cooled 911...the 993 GT2.

[@mortenberg2897]

Great video as allways. It would have been nice to hear/see the cars perform a little thou. But i understand the respect your showing the owners….

[@truebluemiata]

I'd love to see you cover the water- cooled Turbos.

[@9WERKSTV]

It seems there is appetite for such a test…

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

Great video thanks 🙏

[@budgey99]

Awesome job, mate!

[@9WERKSTV]

Thank you!

[@mattdedasc]

Another great video

[@9WERKSTV]

I appreciate that

[@juandef4115]

993 still looks great.

[@RR0381]

Lovely cars. Shame the 993 owner thinks that poorly spaced number plate looks good. It's gash.

[@stephenauty2402]

🤣

[@9WERKSTV]

I'm sure the owner would say it's his car and he can do what he likes with it.

[@88laserbeam]

Wow, white interior

[@davidmorais2394]

Yes but what gives the 993 turbo a classic car drive? Everything you say about it is true but apart from the fact that is is air-cooled, the drive quality is very modern. Closer to the 997 than to the 930 or even the 964 turbo.

[@chesspiece81]

Are you sure it's not a damp squid? What the hell is a damp squib? I do love the 930, but the 964 and 993 just do something to me.

[@9WERKSTV]

It's definitely a damp squib! Look it up!

[@chesspiece81]

@@9WERKSTV I guess you never saw The IT crowd episode on this. I was only teasing.

[@inadapte74]

Which 964 turbo was in bad boys 1?

[@no-speedlimit]

1994 964 Turbo 3.6

[@stephenauty2402]

Lee..Can you pick a favourite?

[@9WERKSTV]

Ahahahaha!!

[@frestart]

Best of the best my friend 🤝🤝🤝 hi 👋🏻 from Ukraine 🇺🇦

[@stephenauty2402]

Both lovely but I bet you've have more fun banging around in an old 2.0L Clio

[@resnonverba137]

You're British! They're not 'fenders', they're wings or bumpers.

[@9WERKSTV]

Get off your high horse, I can say what I like. So piss off.

[@awakethemaster]

Winner 1998 993 911 GT2. I'M GOING TO BUY ONE OF THIS.

[@alanwayte432]

I am going to have to sell my 991.1 4S and 1998 Defender to experience the 993 Turbo after this ..😂

[@9WERKSTV]

Do it and daily the thing!!