Zoro vs. Blackbeard: Who Would Win? - The MOST Intense One Piece Debate Yet! | That One Piece Talk

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@ianodhiambo1
@ianodhiambo1 5 күн бұрын
Props to Larry and Lawrence for intentionally having terrible takes for content
@Grantsta
@Grantsta 2 күн бұрын
My Glorious king Blackbeard solos them no fruit!!!!!!
@SuperICEMAN15
@SuperICEMAN15 5 күн бұрын
Shanks saying Blackbeard was a problem even before he got his two devil fruits is all the proof we need to settle this debate once and for all.
@mahirsharma7789
@mahirsharma7789 5 күн бұрын
Were did that problem went when he was against Old Near Dead WB ???
@tashfeenkhan3658
@tashfeenkhan3658 5 күн бұрын
just beacuse blackbeard has whithbeard devil fruit dosnt make him at that level and shanks was not saying that blackbeard was a problem for him he said that beacause ace was going after him and that was his whole point of coming to whitebeard and telling him to stop ace going after him it was for ace not for himself oh other yonkos oh other strong people in one peace
@SuperICEMAN15
@SuperICEMAN15 5 күн бұрын
The fact that Shanks identified Blackbeard as a serious threat even before Blackbeard acquired two Devil Fruits speaks volumes about Blackbeard's strength and cunning as a pirate. Shanks, one of the Yonko (the four emperors), is known for his calm demeanor and measured approach, so his concern about Blackbeard carries significant weight. This suggests that Blackbeard's physical abilities, intelligence, and overall combat skills were already formidable, making him a dangerous adversary independent of the power gained from Devil Fruits. Additionally, Shanks admitting that Blackbeard scarred him during a moment when Shanks was fully prepared and guarded adds another layer to Blackbeard's reputation. It implies that Blackbeard's ability to inflict damage on Shanks, a top-tier fighter, was not a matter of luck or underhanded tactics but a demonstration of genuine skill and capability. This moment also highlights Blackbeard's capacity to catch even the most powerful opponents off-guard, further cementing his role as a looming threat in the One Piece world.
@umbralowl
@umbralowl 4 күн бұрын
@@tashfeenkhan3658 It was for Shanks. You forgetting when he said Blackbeard gave him that scar before he got any devil fruit and Shanks was on guard. He was telling Whitebeard if Blackbeard could do that to him without a devil fruit Ace needs to back off
@invinciblebeast1915
@invinciblebeast1915 4 күн бұрын
@@SuperICEMAN15 how strong was Shanks when BB did that though?
@MidTeirHuman
@MidTeirHuman 5 күн бұрын
I swear they be gaslighting seb half the podcast
@JasonFlemingMusic
@JasonFlemingMusic 4 күн бұрын
Which one is seb, sorry first episode
@Plunder13
@Plunder13 5 күн бұрын
I feel bad for Seb man, they really do just bait him in every argument. I can’t wait to see Blackbeard pack people up and Seb gets to say “I told you”
@danyal6181
@danyal6181 5 күн бұрын
Who would Blackbeard ever pack up in a fair one on one? It isn't in Blackbeard's nature.
@ndibunwapeter9013
@ndibunwapeter9013 5 күн бұрын
@@danyal6181 so we gonna act like ace never existed 🤔
@Plunder13
@Plunder13 5 күн бұрын
What is this, street fighter? Blackbeard doesn’t fight 1v1. Blackbeard jumps MF’ers and only fights when he knows he can win. That’s what makes him dangerous.
@danyal6181
@danyal6181 5 күн бұрын
@@ndibunwapeter9013 So are we going to act like at the start ace didn't fight with burgess and van auger before Blackbeard? How convenient you leave that out. Infact BB had a lackluster performance against ace, with ace landing several attacks, blitzing BB in moments and countering even whilst being at a disadvantage as he didn't know Blackbeards abilities whereas BB knew all about ace.
@danyal6181
@danyal6181 5 күн бұрын
@@Plunder13 So you contradict your original comment. Blackbeard won't pack anyone up, it will be with the help of other characters.
@ysteinschiefloekanestrm7652
@ysteinschiefloekanestrm7652 5 күн бұрын
That Larry dude is using all the words in the world to avoid saying the real reason he belives BB loses: «I don’t like him, and don’t want him to win.»
@time5432
@time5432 5 күн бұрын
Or he just not strong enough
@ysteinschiefloekanestrm7652
@ysteinschiefloekanestrm7652 5 күн бұрын
@@time5432 Plenty strong, plenty cunning, plenty versatile. Bye bye Zoro.
@leonarcherjunior2090
@leonarcherjunior2090 5 күн бұрын
Fax
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 5 күн бұрын
​@@time5432 he is not yonko level. However he should be able to beat zoro
@MrAlkan92
@MrAlkan92 4 күн бұрын
@@Mrfish603 He's dangerous enough to have Shamks himself going after him and you're telling me he is not yonko level? Blackbeards devil fruit increases the pain taken from attacks but absorbs some of the damage, it's a no brainer that Blackbeard is extremely dangerous and would wipe the floor with anyone that is not yonko level.
@ndibunwapeter9013
@ndibunwapeter9013 5 күн бұрын
The bb downplay is crazy, this is the same dude a freaking yonko considers his biggest threat, like why would shanks be concerned of a man that loses to a yc??? Using feats to argue is just being biased when we know most of the top tiers lack feats
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 5 күн бұрын
I think it is more zoro glazing than bb downplay. If it would be kizaru vs blackbeard way more people would argue in bb favor.
@everettmalone7676
@everettmalone7676 5 күн бұрын
Feats are pretty much all we have though, why would we scale with something we have yet to see? We’re not scaling off of potential…..
@aggressivelyaveragegamer190
@aggressivelyaveragegamer190 5 күн бұрын
b/c BB doesn't do fair 1v1 in universe & the argument is Zoro vs BB in a clean 1v1. Shanks is scared of BB's potential threat (knowledge to gain 2 DFs, hunting strong fruits, & connection to Rocks, Strange body/Never Sleeps, gaining allies like Shiryu & Kuzan & becoming a Warlord + having a secret master plan) not BB's ability to fight 1v1
@ndibunwapeter9013
@ndibunwapeter9013 5 күн бұрын
@everettmalone so nami/ usopp beats dragon,Imu? understood 👍
@everettmalone7676
@everettmalone7676 5 күн бұрын
@@ndibunwapeter9013 I feel like it’s a bit disingenuous to use an example like that… but I understand the sentiment, so let me rephrase it like this. If we’re talking about Blackbeard up against a character like zoro, while BB had feats, they’re not impressive enough compared to someone like zoro to confidently say he would win against him
@tejasiyer1923
@tejasiyer1923 5 күн бұрын
Blackbeard literally laughed off Law's awakeneing attack that broke all of big moms bones. Even at marineford, he endured a gura to the head, he tanked sengokus shockwaves, and his own gura could block sengokus shockwaves. Yall be taking that Haki above all statement too seriously, all Kaido was saying was that you cannot become pirate king or rule the seas without great haki and that you dont need a devil fruit to rule the seas like Roger. Doesn't mean the character who has better haki wins against every character who has worse haki. The Gura fruit is so underrated because of this. Blackbeard cant negate fruits in this situation but he can still use the yami fruit to pull Zoro in and then gura fruit him to the head. Zoro is losing this it shouldnt be a debate.
@PedroMartins-nf1yf
@PedroMartins-nf1yf 5 күн бұрын
You are speaking facts 💯
@mahirsharma7789
@mahirsharma7789 5 күн бұрын
You comparing a Full Health BB taking a attack to Big Mom who already Endured way too many Attacks even before Awakening ????
@PedroMartins-nf1yf
@PedroMartins-nf1yf 5 күн бұрын
@@mahirsharma7789 The awakenings were the attacks that truly hurt Big Mom, the other attacks were doing some dmg but not significant enough
@Altario10
@Altario10 5 күн бұрын
Tell that to brainless Zoro fans
@BrainDamage4436
@BrainDamage4436 5 күн бұрын
Did not break all of big moms bones. Blackbeard wouldve lost without van augur. Point blank woulda been in the ocean. Couldnt even beat law 1v1. Zoro is packing him like a can of tuna.
@GuinoTheProphet
@GuinoTheProphet 5 күн бұрын
BB’s feats thus far: Scarred shanks, finished WB after tanking multiple quakes and a slash down his shoulder. Took direct attacks from Sengoku and got up pissed off. Smashed Ace mid diff. Defeated Jewerly Bonnie. Defeated Marco + Remnants of Whitebeard pirates post war. Snuck up on Boa. Fended off a SERAPHIM during a surprise attack and tanked getting blown through a massive stature like it tickled. But yet they say the man has no fears when literally all of his bodies he’s caught since DAY ONE have been high level opponents. People just hate him bc he tries to avoid 1v1s, but he’s a mf pirate 😂 and the argument Blackbeard couldn’t push back law is wild. He DEF could’ve if he’s capable of uppercutting Whitebeard and making him catch air or nearly breaking Aces neck with a karate chop. He needed Law to get in position so he can use his other hand to snag Law 😅 why push someone back if you can end the fight instantly ☠️ Zoro is not beating him currently, the yami pulls him in and the gura smashed him with the other hand. And even if Zoro can strike close, BB is NOT going down to one strike
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 5 күн бұрын
Finally someone does not underestimate the yami
@DeeTurnt-w6t
@DeeTurnt-w6t 5 күн бұрын
And I’m NOT saying zoro beats BB, I’m just saying he’s not a crazy feat filled character. He’s a coward pirate, and it’s clear than he’s written that way. He is the EXACT opposite of luffy. Luffy is a pirate and behaves so… BUT he has morales. Respect, empathy, and honor. Blackbeard has NONE of either. That’s the point, he’s grimey and slimey. He could NEVER be a whitbeard. But he isn’t supposed to be. He’s a luffy opponent so ofc zoro isn’t cooking him, but zoro has way better stats… AND 100% feats
@time5432
@time5432 5 күн бұрын
Very long paragraph and yet you have not listed a singular good argument somehow. I know you might disagree so hears the facts. 1. Whitebeard was quite literally already dying. 2. Not a singular opponent that you listed is better than King and definitely doesn't beat Zoro 3. BB has never once in his life shown durability that states that he could tank Zoros attack 4. BB has also never shown the AP that would beat Zoro(He has tanked much stronger attacks) 5. The evidence would simply show that Zoro is 1 faster 2 stronger 3 more durable 4 Able to counter any attacks BB would throw All you have is narrative. More power to you but if were just going off stats nothing you stated helps.
@GuinoTheProphet
@GuinoTheProphet 5 күн бұрын
@ so ignore him tanking back to back blows from Whitebeard and Sengoku? I stated Whitebeard was almost dead, but he was still rocking Akainu half deaf and bro was feeling them blows so to say BB tanking anything from someone who could still harm an admiral is still a feat. Then Sengoku?? What’s your argument about Sengoku?? Like he outright tanked his attacks and was fine?? Everyone says he has no durability feats but I mean tanking someone’s attacks who boxed with Roger on the daily is pretty crazy. And yeah, Zoro is faster than BB but I mean the yami nullifies speed. Ask Boa and Law about that. OP has shown that Fujitora and BB’s devil fruit work kind of in the same way that once you’re in it, it’s got you. And saying Blackbeard hasn’t fought anyone kings level is just cap bro. Law?? And He beat up Marco in the post war, Robin told Luffy that. If I remember correctly, Marco was boxing with both king and queen right? Maybe I’m wrong idk, but Zoro can’t fly, meaning Blackbeard can take full control of the battlefield and make Zoro jump around to avoid the vortex he can create on the floor. Yk, the same vortex that had S-Shark scrambling to high ground? Zoro goes airborne he’s prone to the yami and air cracking sea quakes. Zoro is going to hit him a lot in the fight, but the yami combo is crazy. If he tries to cut him after being grabbed by the yami, Blackbeard has the gura to either block or just straight rock him at close range. Oh and BB tanked a shock wile and laughed about it, which I know Zoro wouldn’t laugh at if he got hit by it 😭🙏. In the air he’s a problem too, he nearly shattered the entire island from the sky in his battle with law. Blackbeard is far too versatile, intelligent, and strategic to lose in a head to head battle. Rayleigh and Shanks are two people who have stated they would either outright lose (Rayleigh) or that he’s way too dangerous for someone like Ace (a guy who’s defeated a warlord, stalemated Jinbe and Yamato(who scales relative or higher then zoro depending on who you ask), and was leagues stronger then Zoro pretimeskip etc etc)to go after. If BB was that strong pretimeskip to be able to take attacks from Sengoku, Whitebeard, and utterly destroy Ace, why would he be any weaker post timeskip plus gura? Like zoro just got to kings level in Wano, BB beat up Marco at that point. It’s y’all to keep saying ‘narrative’ which is written by Oda btw. If he has Shanks saying, hey he scarred me with no devil fruit and he’s too much of a threat for even Ace. Hey, I believe Oda. Y’all see Shanks say that and y’all like no feats bro nuh uh 😭 like if you don’t wanna go with any narrative then you probably believe Usopp is stronger then Dragon because Dragon got no feats 😭🙂‍↔️ like narrative is A PART of the story not just background dialogue 🤷🏾‍♂️
@HunchoHamza
@HunchoHamza 4 күн бұрын
@@time5432buddy Marco was beating up King and Queen together BB washed the WB’s crew this was before Aokiji joined them too and they all got their DF’s so yea…. Marco beats king that King win is so overhyped by Zoro! 1. On steroids while doing it! 2. Literally was seeing death after beating the guy almost died! 3. King was a one trick pony, once even a simpleton like Zoro can figure out that flame trick the rest is easy from there! Unpopular opinion Queen was a harder opponent to fight! Invisible feat, Germa weapons, crazy strength, more mental strength than King since King wanted to get in his feelings over his mask cracking, while Queen literally got in Sanji’s head with the trash talking and dirty hands on type. Has more feats but I’ve type enough.
@myst2761
@myst2761 5 күн бұрын
Why Larry try to use the 2 Quake Punches on Akainu as downplay? Akainu is a top tier who was fleet admiral level, he’s SUPPOSED to endure that and he got heavily damaged both externally and internally. Larry acting like WB failed to kill Pre-TS lucci in two hits 😂 I’ve seen a Drunken V2 Kaido (that amps his haki + bigger physical body) hit a Base Luffy clean in the head with aCoC thunder baguas and Luffy was still fine and got right back up and he took multiple Kanabo acoc attacks from him too. Are we saying Kaido’s acoc attacks is also weak/not lethal ?
@garpnewgate
@garpnewgate 5 күн бұрын
He wasn't fleet admiral level.
@williebo510
@williebo510 5 күн бұрын
​@@garpnewgateyes he was they're stated to be above sengoku and kuzan is stated by the gorosei to be the single strongest man in the Navy
@garpnewgate
@garpnewgate 5 күн бұрын
@@williebo510 absolutely none of that was ever stated. If you think he was fleet admiral level during the Paramount War then you don't actually understand the gap between him/the other admirals and Sengoku/Garp. Also, I hope you understand that the Kuzan panel calling him the strongest is a Viz mistranslation (something very common for them).
@williebo510
@williebo510 5 күн бұрын
@garpnewgate send me your discord, Instagram, Twitter or any form of messenger app I'll send all the scans and shut you tf up bcuz yes yes it was stated 😂😂
@williebo510
@williebo510 5 күн бұрын
@garpnewgate the kuzan panel isn't a mistranslation bcuz it gets backed up in databook deep blue 😂
@Hunter_Brandon
@Hunter_Brandon 5 күн бұрын
Why does Larry act like Akainu was supposed to die from WB? If Zoro can beat Akainu and BB right now then Luffy might as well be Goku.
@HooverSeuss
@HooverSeuss 5 күн бұрын
The Yami doesn't just disable DFs though. The Yami consumes all and crushes it as well
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 5 күн бұрын
I swear people do not understand that the yami is still very useful against non df users. I would argue the yami is more dangerous for zoro than the gura because of versatility and gravity Manipulation.
@3G3ars
@3G3ars 5 күн бұрын
Exactly for some reason people think yami is only good against df users lmao, it's a devil fruit why would people be immune to this? Well unless they got exceptional haki maybe?
@WellDoneOnTheInternetEverybody
@WellDoneOnTheInternetEverybody 5 күн бұрын
Zoro goes Ashura and Blackbeard disables it with a mere touch on the shoulder 🤣
@mahirsharma7789
@mahirsharma7789 5 күн бұрын
​​@@WellDoneOnTheInternetEverybodybruh It Disable DF abilities Retards 😂😂 Read the Manga Properly
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 5 күн бұрын
​@@WellDoneOnTheInternetEverybody? He can not do that
@PalmPrimus
@PalmPrimus 5 күн бұрын
ZKBB is the new ZKK now 😂
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 5 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 this zoro glazer think he low diffs bb. They are just as bad as the sanji fanboys
@charlesredd9619
@charlesredd9619 5 күн бұрын
I see you've been around the bend a few times 😂😂
@thebreadbaron5951
@thebreadbaron5951 5 күн бұрын
HOW IS THIS A DEBATE. Boyssss do better cmon, Blackbeard destroys Zoro
@JimmyHopkins-bw9jb
@JimmyHopkins-bw9jb 5 күн бұрын
This was a cringeworthy watch
@thasensei5120
@thasensei5120 5 күн бұрын
@@JimmyHopkins-bw9jb its for views they cant believe that
@thebreadbaron5951
@thebreadbaron5951 5 күн бұрын
I love the fellas but this was a massive L lol
@thebreadbaron5951
@thebreadbaron5951 5 күн бұрын
It completely lacks reading comprehension it’s just power scaling math bs and gaslighting. Do they really think that Oda thinks Blackbeard loses to Zoro?..
@invinciblebeast1915
@invinciblebeast1915 4 күн бұрын
Explain convincingly what Blackbeard can do to Zoro to make Blackbeard win.
@mikecajina2784
@mikecajina2784 5 күн бұрын
The energy from this debate just made me think if that one clip "she was the wicked witch of the west bro" 😂
@cassiussmith5640
@cassiussmith5640 5 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂 This is the best comment right here
@seanwuzhere12
@seanwuzhere12 5 күн бұрын
Durability and Endurance is NOT the same thing. People really gotta stop mixing those up. Durability is ability to withstand pressure and damage, endurance is to keep going through difficult situations despite damage and fatigue. Blackbeard don’t need durability, his endurance is crazy and he takes double the damage. He’s been stabbed, burned, organs cut through, quaked to the face, and more and still got back up.
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 5 күн бұрын
His durabilty is however questionable
@chrisbradley3458
@chrisbradley3458 4 күн бұрын
@@Mrfish603how is his durability questionable when He takes 2x the damage from everything and still hasn’t died. Hes one of the most durable people in the series.
@architectpiperr4918
@architectpiperr4918 4 күн бұрын
It's funny that even shanks doesn't underestimate BB...and these dudes are comparing Zoro to him😅😅
@bomberbcm
@bomberbcm 5 күн бұрын
We gotta acknowledge the fact King actively lowered his durability throughout the fight. Final class King had heavily diminished durability in order to increase his offense
@seanwuzhere12
@seanwuzhere12 5 күн бұрын
This Zoro agenda gotta stop. Seb is right how y’all gonna say he can take a combined emperor attack and use that as an excuse but then say he can’t beat Luffy when none of you believe Luffy can beat Kaido and Big Mom at the same time? Also are we forgetting how Zoro was the only person on that rooftop out of commission and needed a miracle drug from chopper to fight again?! They acting like he tanked the attack and then went straight to fighting King. Man literally saw the grim reaper.
@DivineZenkai
@DivineZenkai 5 күн бұрын
While you are right, I think you are forgetting the fact that Zoro, even though he didn't tank the attack, was still able to get up after said attack and then perform ashura onto kaido. It's not about him being able to outright tank the ikkoku sovereignty. It's about him being able to get back up and attack after getting hit with such a deadly attack. Personally I don't think BB is outputting anything nearly on the level of that combined yonko attack on his own(you are crazy if you think he is) so id say Zoro has a better chance at taking a gura attack from BB than you think and then getting back up and hitting BB with a strong acoc sword attack. I do wanna preface my thoughts by saying that I don't necessarily think BB is weak or anything like that. It's just his statements and then his feats are inconsistent. Statement wise he has shanks shook but feat wise, he almost lost to law, got smacked around Amazon lily by s hawk(who Zoro defeated btw) and almost lost to a 1 hp whitebeard who was bleeding out and had multiple massive holes in his body and had to jump him to secure the win. BB is dangerous because of his planning and cunning not because of his overall strength
@AnimeALX
@AnimeALX 5 күн бұрын
​@@DivineZenkaihe didn't even fully block the attack. He held it for a few seconds before Law saved him. Zoro would have been dead if Law didn't come to help him.
@seanwuzhere12
@seanwuzhere12 4 күн бұрын
@@DivineZenkai a Blackbeard who just got to Gura was able to tilt the sea with all of marineford, cause a tsunami accidentally on another part of the world and was able to go neg and counter Sengoku’s own attack on him, Zoro is not taking a full hit and fighting the same. You act like Blackbeard wouldn’t get back up either, no one has yet been able to beat Blackbeard and he always gets back up, how you say that for Zoro but ignore that for BB? Because he looked like he got hurt? His devil fruit multiplies incoming damage. (Except Magellan but almost everyone lost to him. )
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 4 күн бұрын
​@@DivineZenkaiHim getting sent back by shawk is animefiller. Also using pre timeskip feats is wild. By that logic luffy still loses to magellan. The only reason law almost won was because bb was over the sea. On the ground he won the fight. Zoro would also struggle a lot with law in a fight. Zoro can tank a quake but the problem will be that bb has crazy aoe and versatility which would stop zoro from using his strong attacks. If he breaks the ground for example, zoro could not use strong offensive attacks as there is no ground under him.
@rasenganmaster101
@rasenganmaster101 4 күн бұрын
@@AnimeALX a fraction of a second not a few seconds, the anime extended it but it was def not a few seconds
@gsphil414
@gsphil414 5 күн бұрын
Gura downplay is pretty crazy u can argue it’s now what it’s hyped to be by certain people but it’s pretty dumb same with the Yami the ace fight shows it bb doesn’t need relative speed to dominate a speed battle cus of the yami. For the gura if we’re being honest when bb gets arrogant it leads to him not being as cautious fighting wise and taking more damage based on context. The slash wb landed while bb was arrogant was a good damage feat but the gura did so much more imagine an attack like the final one he did on Akainu to bb at that point. That tells u everythint abt the guras power and we have no reason to believe he hasn’t gotten atleast decently stronger over the 2 years.
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 5 күн бұрын
Bb wins high diff but i think the yami will be the deciding factor on why he wins the fight. As the fruit allows bb to control over gravity to an extent and gives him a lot of versatility.
@gsphil414
@gsphil414 5 күн бұрын
@@Mrfish603 i don’t really think it gets to high, I mean to what I remember BBs pre time skip feats are mid fighting sengoku then sengoku and garp in that mf scenario isn’t actually that impressive in context.There’s a lot to be factored in when fighting the gura while trying to protect and not destroy marineford. Post time skip he just fights law but it’s eh we know law doesn’t push him to even mid based on the fact he’s not even slightly injured but I think u can technically argue law was in that fight vs restricted bb for a while but I don’t know how. Given my personal scaling of law he wouldn’t need to be unrestricted to win but all in all the unrestricted gura is too much given. Both have good endurance and bb overall would have the advantage but BBs scaling is a mystery overall, yes bb is arrogant but being comfortable enough to fight the entire strawhats, in what would be in BBs mind by himself, is concerning. Even factoring important things for both sides like bb thinking he can return luffy to a normal state without his rubber abilities and gears (even his brand new one to bb) it’s still concerning.
@Rhovanni
@Rhovanni 5 күн бұрын
Haki is not over devil fruits, outstanding Haki is. Law needed an outburst of Haki to undo a weaker devil fruit user in Doc Q. Now lets say Zoro needs Conqueror Haki to negate BB Devil fruit pull from his Kurozu, to not have his stance broken, something Zoro STILL doesnt know how to use, so now, You have a Zoro playing defensive, when its literally fighting a losing battle, Finally, the best chance Zoro has, is getting a counterattack on BB while receiving a devastating attack, and then relenting. Naaah you Zoro fanboys are so high on cope, when a weaker BB managed to Scar Shanks, the haki god of obserbation Haki.
@danyal6181
@danyal6181 5 күн бұрын
Zoro has the strongest level of haki, which is advanced conquerors. So he has outstanding haki. Secondly if zoro is facing a Yonko he's going to be outputting conquerors naturally, so he's going to negate the yamis pull. Even if you want to say zoro couldn't do that it doesn't matter. Infact I've seen BB try to pull ace in with the yami and ace counter BB mid air. Zoro has insane range and can attack from anywhere, BB pulling zoro in is the worst thing BB can do because he ain't boxing with zoro in the pocket especially if zoro is using advanced conquerors.
@Rhovanni
@Rhovanni 5 күн бұрын
​@@danyal6181 naturally outputing conqueror, I dont even know where you pulled that one, maybe when he first used conqueror in HIS SWORDS, not on himself, so yeah he can be pulled, next, Ace is a logia, and he doesnt really need an stance to use his full strenght, not the same can be said about SWORD USER, or any weapon user, next yes, pulling Zoro in close Quarter is dumb, but the point still stand, BB can use Kurozu to break his posture and then molly whop him, and Zoro cant output the same level of strenght of attack from afar, you know who can, BB with Gura Gura, so yeah, take another hit of copium and come back dear. Ah right almost forgot, you are giving that 3 IQ style the benefits of the doubt that he knows that Haki can be used to deter Akuma no mi, and seeing how long it took him to realize the Seraphim were Lunarian, so yeah, come back stronger next time.
@time5432
@time5432 5 күн бұрын
@@Rhovanni Your saying copium while lying it's absolutely ironic 1. Zoro cut Kaido form range. Lmao what are you talking about 2. Putting Conquerors Haki in your swords means that you are extending it from yourself. (Your point is fruitless) 3. Nothing BB has done has shown AP that is stronger than Zoro's durability
@Rhovanni
@Rhovanni 5 күн бұрын
​@@time5432Here comes a New Challenger. Zoro cut Kaido from range? If you mean the paper cut he did to his face, yeah he did. Next, extending Haki from yourself???? When the only thing that is blacken and shooting Black lighting were his sword, another hard cope for the Zoro Fanboys. If tanking a quake to the jaw from an enraged Shirohige is not a durability feat then I dont know what you want, also still doesnt matter when BB can simply outrange him and just foderized Zoro. Come on Zoro Fanboys, cope harder.
@danyal6181
@danyal6181 5 күн бұрын
@@RhovanniAre you dumb or something? Against king Emma was forcing zoro to go all out with his haki, zoro was knocking out fodder pirates passively, he was naturally outputting conquerors haki without even recognising it . The king of hell state is literally zoro using advanced conquerors 24/7. So no if BB wanted to pull zoro he couldn't because zoro naturally exudes the strongest level of haki in king of hell state. BB can "break his posture" that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard because we have seen zoro attack whilst being in the air before, zoro whilst attacking in the air literally had big mom calling for kaido to dodge and the range of zoros attack was so great it sliced off onigashimas horn. Zoros final attack against king was king of hell dragon damnation in which zoro wasn't on the ground, he was in the air to land the attack 😂 so this point about zoro being a swordsman and that he needs his posture on the ground is ridiculous. Yes zoro can output the same strength from afar, zoro can attack from any range. If he coats his air slashes in advanced conquerors haki they are doing significant damage to BB, we have seen zoros slices go from the rooftop all the way past onigashimas horn, that is ridiculous range. Secondly BB can attack from far true but I saw the admirals use basic haki to deflect the gura, In fact I've seen law not be damaged by a named attack from BB at range by the gura. If BB is going to damage zoro it has to be up close where BB can punch him. So take another copium shot and come back. I didn't say zoro knows that haki can negate devil fruits, I said if zoro is fighting against someone like BB he's going to be naturally outputting conquerors haki due to enma and king of hell which would negate devil fruit abilities. So ye, come back with something of substance.
@urekmazino6800
@urekmazino6800 5 күн бұрын
Y'all Zoro fans really dont believe bb has acoc??
@ELFKNMAPO
@ELFKNMAPO 5 күн бұрын
Not a zoro fan but thats never been confirmed
@zerogravity8982
@zerogravity8982 5 күн бұрын
He hasn't. In my opinion BB has two souls. When someone ko's BB he will stand up with a different Personality (Maybe Rocks) But the normal BB we have seen many times is would lose against sanji or Franky.
@mraleksi2910
@mraleksi2910 4 күн бұрын
@@zerogravity8982 this might be the worst take i have ever seen
@ShisuiDUchiha
@ShisuiDUchiha 4 күн бұрын
I love zoro but he’s not taking on BB in his fight with king he wasn’t able to keep using ACOC for long he literally said he had to finish this up before the blade drains all his haki right before his final clash with king and the crazy ending😂😂😂 which mean zoro hasn’t even fully mastered it which makes sense since luffy barely was able to master it just recently in his fight with Kaido I think zoro needs to master it before he can take on a Yonko level threat
@S-Ace
@S-Ace 5 күн бұрын
How are we still debating whether Blackbeard has Conquerors haki?
@D.Strawhat
@D.Strawhat 5 күн бұрын
Zoro gets low diffed. Even if we argue conquerors can counteract the dark dark fruit, the tremor fruit demolishes him from range
@juanwild4503
@juanwild4503 4 күн бұрын
0:35 look at Larry’s face he’s plotting the worst take of 2024 😂
@TellaTubbywithagun
@TellaTubbywithagun 4 күн бұрын
While I see what Larry is saying, Blackbeard really hasn’t shown much impressive. He’s not wrong. I can’t picture him beating zoro. But he should. I know he’s strong enough, I just can’t see it happening, look at their interactions with S-hawk. But we do know Blackbeard should be above zoro. We know he had to beat Marco post war, and this was before getting better haki in the timeskip. We also have Rayleigh saying he’d lose to black beard, black beard over powers boa, and pre gura black beard beat ace, who should be YC+-YC2 level
@TXNIZ
@TXNIZ 5 күн бұрын
BB punching straight through Zoro’s strongest attack will be an amazing moment to witness.
@time5432
@time5432 5 күн бұрын
Lmao he's not stronger than Kaido
@germanshepard6336
@germanshepard6336 5 күн бұрын
Blackbeard definitely wins we just don’t know why. That darkness fruit has a secret just like luffy’s fruit
@redmaxxs
@redmaxxs 5 күн бұрын
They're really underestimate Blackbeard's crew. Let's look at the set of powers. What are going to do about a person who can teleport and snipe from any distance a person. Sanji is fast but not so fast that he can catch someone teleporting. A person who can go invisible who's supposed to be one Zorro's endgame fight. Also a person who can transform into someone else. A person who can become the land theirselves and attack them from the ground. You got someone who can go Giant. We've seen what happened with Garp that wasn't even the whole crew. Getting jump makes a difference huge difference especially when there's no one that can help you. Okay I like Zorro but there's no way he's beating Blackbeard. He cannot cut the Quake it's not a physical thing. If he gets pulled into the black hole he's definitely going to be in danger. Also there's an attack we haven't seen that keeps getting pulled off screen. Even if you could cut it it wouldn't stop shock waves. Sanji has never hit any type of woman no matter what they look like. So they're just going to keep putting her in front of him.
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 5 күн бұрын
Nah his Crew is pretty mediocre besides van augar and maybe lafitte but bb wins high diff against zoro.
@redmaxxs
@redmaxxs 5 күн бұрын
@Mrfish603 This is them getting jumped. Zorro got jumped and hurt when he was stabbed by the scythe. All of them are strong, like Lafitte that guy per time skip snuck up everyone in the conference room with the Admirals. We still don't know how he does that only clue we have it might be hypnosis. Also Blackbeard's crew they all have great teamwork each time I seem them fight they set up the next person for the next attack. They took Aokiji out of it but it said, the crew without Blackbeard so that includes him too. It's way too much for those two. They are the endgame fight also they might actually have seen them fight and took Intel since they were on the same Island and they have a character that can disguise themselves.
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 5 күн бұрын
​@@redmaxxs I agree if he gets jumped he gets bodied. Look what happened to garp who is stronger than zoro when he only was against one half of the Crew. People underestiameds how hard it is to fight multiple people at once especially if you are not a durabilty monster.
@Archonus
@Archonus 5 күн бұрын
@@Mrfish603 Calling a crew of OP fruit users mediocre is outrageous. They're some of the most dangerous mfers in the entire verse.
@RWebb-gm3kv
@RWebb-gm3kv 4 күн бұрын
Why are we acting like the yami yami no mi's only ability is to negate devil fruits? It produces infinite gravity stated by bb, it has the destructive capacity to eradicate a town😭 the gura gives Blackbeard long range and short range attack abilities, even if zoro keeps his distance, bb can use the yami to draw zoro in and hit him with a gura punch
@Itachi4477
@Itachi4477 2 күн бұрын
Justin had this convo w my cousin we both agreed zoro is cutting him down
@jesussalas4974
@jesussalas4974 3 күн бұрын
This is what its like arguing with a narcassist 😂😂
@Fallen_09
@Fallen_09 5 күн бұрын
Omg, Seb is talking to big rocks at this point. These guys are delusional. Zoro fan boys needa chill
@unclebobboomergames
@unclebobboomergames 5 күн бұрын
Feats are irrelevant. We can see the story being told. Zoro is getting folded like laundry
@almy-qy1lf
@almy-qy1lf 2 күн бұрын
Rayleigh admitted he would lose to BB. Teach retreated not simply because he is scared of Rayleigh in a 1v1, but because it wouldn't be a 1v1. Rayleigh himself said that only the particulars of the situation made it possible to NEGOTIATE with Teach. Teach was faced with the prospect of losing two precious crewmembers, and then facing Coby, the Kuja pirates, 2 seraphim and Rayleigh on top of that. Of course, backing down made more sense. And he didn't just run away with his tail between his legs. Because he was still an overwhelming threat, he got his crew freed, was left to leave the island unbothered, and even took some marines as tribute. That's how he endes up with Coby as a prisoner.
@Lagacy
@Lagacy 3 күн бұрын
Blackbeard got hurt by a gear 2 jet pistol 💀
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 2 күн бұрын
That was pre timeskip. By that logic luffy is a smoker victim
@Halos215
@Halos215 3 күн бұрын
If I’m not mistaken they’ve stated that gate was wapol metal
@ThredzClips
@ThredzClips 5 күн бұрын
If you go of feats Zoro, plus the fact that Blackbeard couldn't block the s hawk slash and Zoro could easily, Zoro has better feats but Blackbeard is cooking from what we know
@JimmyHopkins-bw9jb
@JimmyHopkins-bw9jb 5 күн бұрын
How didnt he block it? He took zero damage. And that was a mountain busting slash to say we seen anything like in egghead from s hawk is baseless
@ndibunwapeter9013
@ndibunwapeter9013 5 күн бұрын
Saying "if you go off feats" is pointless, when it's literally impossible for Zoro to be stronger than bb, y'all always keep forgetting bb is a freaking yonko. "Bb couldn't block a hawk slash" I Hope you remember bb was defending himself against s hawk with his BARE HANDS, while Zoro needed his swords to stop s hawk slashes
@Eden0211
@Eden0211 5 күн бұрын
He did block it.
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 5 күн бұрын
You know that him getting knocked back is anime filler. In the mange they were clashing. Bb was also not using his hax which is his biggest strenth. Zoro has also more experience figting mihawk than bb. Next time use an actual manga panels.
@ThredzClips
@ThredzClips 5 күн бұрын
@ndibunwapeter9013 Blackbeard used haki and he doesn't even have ryo from what we know and Zoro did it without haki and casually blocked it, Blackbeard blocked it but got sent back fair but Zoro literally blocked it and didn't move with ease, plus like I said Blackbeard still cooking so he's probably stronger but if you go off actual stated stuff Zoro wins but you are right it doesn't make sense story wise but Blackbeard needs to feats to bsck it up that's just my view on it
@Stumpsville
@Stumpsville 5 күн бұрын
Black beard is absolutely packing up Zoro mid diff at Best
@arshiarfi3497
@arshiarfi3497 3 күн бұрын
Low diff*
@ericford911
@ericford911 2 күн бұрын
Simple. On Screen: Zoro dog walks him Off Screen: He slithers away and escapes Zoro, and Zoro gets lost chasing him.
@romanbeatz3150
@romanbeatz3150 5 күн бұрын
I think since blackbeard can be careless if zoro starts out in King of hell, he has a 90% chance against Blackbeard and if he starts out the fight normally from what we’ve been shown of blackbeard, I’d give him 50-50. But honestly, since we’ve never seen Blackbeard in a serious fight post time skip, We’ve never seen him go all out and don’t know what he truly is capable of yet. I’d even call his encounter with law a bit more than a scuffle if anything, and just showing his carelessness at times.
@czar82ro
@czar82ro 5 күн бұрын
Blackbeard Is Strong For Reasons Unknown Yet. Could Have Been EXPERIMENTED ON, Could Be A SPECIAL RACE HYBRID. They said He never Sleeps. Shanks Said That Blackbeard Didn’t Catch Him Off Guards Etc
@blizz1355
@blizz1355 5 күн бұрын
Its up in the air if current zoro even beats shiryu let alone bb 😂
@caronosaurs6262
@caronosaurs6262 5 күн бұрын
And Zoro fanboys wonder why everyone calls their favorite character the most overrated and overestimated… how is a contender for luffy’s final villain fight getting beat by the second hand man. Luffy vs Blackbeard is already a debate with many saying it is at least high diff for either side and trust me not only is Zoro not stronger than Luffy but at best gets low-mid diffed by Luffy. Get Zoro passed kid, Law, Fugitora, Greenbull, and the five elders then we can have Zoro face off against Characters like Big mom, Blackbeard, Luffy, and etc. also you can Argue that Zoro has better feats but literally most of the top tiers are fearless or have little feats as all that stuff will be saved for later. As annoying as Akainu and Mihawk glazers are their character is at least confirmed by oda to be the current strongest in their field what is Zoro? The world’s strongest straw hat subordinate?…
@RimuruTempest-wl1ru
@RimuruTempest-wl1ru 4 күн бұрын
Bb is a contender for luffy's final fight yes but that he's currently that strong he struggled with law and with bb current feats he doesn't look much stronger than Zoro.. Zoro has better durability endurance speed strength haki AP and most importantly he's not affected by bb's yami which makes it a hard fight for bb... Although I do think bb beats Zoro but it's not an easy fight for him. PS: Zoro is already past kid and law neither of them are capable of beating Zoro.. kid hasn't done anything that puts him over Zoro and law is close but Zoro outstats him in pretty much all categories and haki except hax and biq
@calmconflict
@calmconflict 5 күн бұрын
Zoro beats BB??? Bruh im the biggest zoro stan but he not beating a yonko bro
@juxtinPK
@juxtinPK 2 күн бұрын
the problem with the haki vs devil fruits arguement is that people assume blackbeard doesnt have crazy haki
@switzmochax1
@switzmochax1 5 күн бұрын
Even if you think Zoro would win, it's not crazy to think he would lose. Didn't Raleigh say he prob couldn't beat BB? A man that could low dif gear 4 luffy, has all advanced forms of haki, held off kizaru. That must mean he's extremely powerful. We haven't seen BB go all out, but he's obviously extremely capable considering all the W's he has. I think yall are forgetting the yami yami is supposed to be one of the most powerful devil fruits, and it seems it is being reduced to something that just nerfs Devil Fruit powers. To think Zoro can win is fair, but to act like it's impossible he loses is a little crazy.
@amansharma4358
@amansharma4358 5 күн бұрын
BB Mid-diffs zoro. I don't think he will even need to use the other devil fruit. Now I can't wait for BB to pack up Shanks 😂😂
@mahirsharma7789
@mahirsharma7789 5 күн бұрын
Please Explain how he'll do it ? Don't just Spam Nonsense here Zoro legit Scarred Hybrid Kaido and is BB Dura above Kaido ??? Sure BB has Gura and Yami but Armament Exist
@amansharma4358
@amansharma4358 5 күн бұрын
@@mahirsharma7789 You are talking like Kaido was going all out against Zoro. He wasn't even using Acoc against Zoro. And that whole rooftop fight wasn't 1v1. BB also have Armament Haki and Gura Gura No mi can legitly create tsunami. BB will just destroy the ground Zoro is standing on. Zoro won't be able to get close to BB.
@a.w.h3325
@a.w.h3325 5 күн бұрын
@@mahirsharma7789 he didn’t scare kaido at all. Mf has ptsd from oden and zoro had his sword during dragon form. When he hit him in hybrid with ashura he acknowledged he had conquers haki. Oda has set up BB vs shanks since marine ford. He already scarred him. Oda is setting up shanks vs bb post time skip. Shanks going to wano looking for bb. He’s a final villain and Oda will not write bb losing to shanks. It won’t be a 1v1 but BB will win
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 5 күн бұрын
​@@mahirsharma7789you do need to be crazy durable to beat zoro. I doubt mihwak is crazy durable
@mahirsharma7789
@mahirsharma7789 5 күн бұрын
@@amansharma4358 Tsunami ?? Zoro can swim , Zoro has Ryuo too , I'm just saying He Scarred Kaido who's Dura is superior to BB
@goncalo473
@goncalo473 5 күн бұрын
Whitebeard didn't broke the gate because he loves gates, especially new ones.
@BrokeWristEntertainmentTV
@BrokeWristEntertainmentTV 5 күн бұрын
Zoro can't beat Luffy, for one reason Gear 5's ability to be paramecia. He will affect the battle field or even Zoro himself
@Immortalprisonking
@Immortalprisonking 5 күн бұрын
It’s just because bb doesn’t have the feats yet. When bb shows his feats he gonna make everyone realize he top 5
@afroslacker7383
@afroslacker7383 5 күн бұрын
The Yonko disrespect is crazy work
@Rdc_Dom
@Rdc_Dom 2 күн бұрын
Narratively, would Oda ever write Black Beard losing to Zoro?? Reigley literally stated that he would lose to Blackbeard. Reigley was able to fight equally with Kizaru for a time. Kizaru, while mentally nerfed, was able to fight G5 Luffy. Larry buggin as usual.
@mraleksi2910
@mraleksi2910 4 күн бұрын
So with this same logic BB loses to sanji aswell…
@Steak_Nachos
@Steak_Nachos 5 күн бұрын
Even with the complexion buff, Zoro’s losing to BB. If Teach is the eos rival for Luffy, he can’t lose to anyone else
@AnimeALX
@AnimeALX 5 күн бұрын
Bruh ....they act like BB vs Law wasn't a thing. BB's haki powered quake fruit would demolish Zoro before he even gets a chance to fight and BB's armament haki is powerful enough to tank S-Hawk's slicing projectile from point blank. Crazy work.
@almy-qy1lf
@almy-qy1lf 2 күн бұрын
When was it established that one could block just about any Gura Gura shockwaves with a sword ? Law used his awakened DF ability to block a weaker, defensive quake punch that BB used when he was on land, but earlier when Teach was falling, his quake punch literally broke Law's Room, and created an earthquake on the island. Unless Zoro can directly block the hand, like Law did, the quake's DC will be felt. And why does everyone think that the Yami Yami is only useful against DF users ? Did y'all forget that DF powers are just one of the things it can absorb? It's a logia that can absorb ANYTHING. In other words, Teach can block any of Zoro's attacks, if he uses the Yami Yami. Teach has two DFs that can block any of Zoro's attacks. I mean his Gura Gura even blocked Law's K-Room sword, which can pierce people even with insane armament and CoC haki (like Big Mom). Teach can also use "Black Hole" against Zoro, which creates a pool of gravity that he can expand to at least the size of a small town. That would seriously impede Zoro's mobility. And if Zoro gets caught into it, he gets crushed by intense gravity, especially the longer he stays in there. Teach has lots of options, to crush Zoro. And his durability and endurance are underestimated. Tanking Law's Shock Wille was no small feat. We're talking about an attack that had Big Mom bleeding and knocked down (and she's far more durable than Zoro). We've seen Teach tank numerous Ace's flame attacks, a slash with a supreme grade blade from the World's strongest man, a quake punch from Whitebeard to the head, a shockwave from transformed Sengoku, a Shock Wille... Within a few hours, he fought Luffy, Magellan, Whitebeard, and kept going against Sengoku and Garp. It was said that his body was different, and weirdly enough, he has no scar, besides all the shots he took (even Whitebeard's slash). Bro is packing Zoro, by all means. It was a ridiculous take.
@WellDoneOnTheInternetEverybody
@WellDoneOnTheInternetEverybody 5 күн бұрын
I don't think Zoro can defeat Shiryu right now lmao why we even talking about stacking him up to Blackbeard for?
@elCONQUEROR81
@elCONQUEROR81 3 күн бұрын
Thought I found a legit one piece cast. Brodie didn’t even say he was playing devil advocate he just putting out phrases that don’t line up. He moved the hall post like 4 times in 5 mins and I’m suppose to watch 14mins?! I’m good
@josephandy21
@josephandy21 3 күн бұрын
Blackbeard doesn't want smoke with Luffy nor Zoro right now. The fact that he was waiting for one of the crew to catch them off guard from their battle at Wano should tell you enough. They both beat BB in my eyes high - extreme diff. With all due respect BB is strong right now, I do see him not wanting smoke with Luffy nor Zoro.
@moeinkhademi3469
@moeinkhademi3469 5 күн бұрын
Is a joke right ?! Is obviously easy win blackbeard.
@a.w.h3325
@a.w.h3325 5 күн бұрын
Seb always 1v3 in arguments lol Larry always down playing BB. The yami has more uses than bringing df users too him/ nullifying df powers. Like doffy said “it’s not about the df it’s how you use it”
@architectpiperr4918
@architectpiperr4918 4 күн бұрын
Even Ray said he can't beat current BB
@Remetheus
@Remetheus Күн бұрын
What I get from seb is that this matchup is debatable for both sides, he’s not automatically saying oh zoro claps, it’s like both guys have strengths & weaknesses that should be discussed, not he did this or that so that mean they can just clap, no debate. But seb can’t ever try to even it out without it becoming arguing & we get a “ cool bro” “so what” “who cares” & he’s cut off
@sjcoolinit7076
@sjcoolinit7076 Күн бұрын
Never Thought I’d Give Larry A W Take On Zoro
@kobil316SH
@kobil316SH 4 күн бұрын
The Blackbeard downplay is insane. He permanently scarred Shanks pre yami
@Hboojy
@Hboojy 4 күн бұрын
The fact that black beard and shanks fought and shanks says that his scar from that battle still stings should be enough reason alone to say why he can beat Elbaf Zoro. Can wait for Seb to get his “I told you so when BB packs up shanks again”
@mrpink8231
@mrpink8231 5 күн бұрын
One of things I like about Blackbeard is that I think it’s pretty clear he’s going to get stronger as the story progresses. I like that he is not an OP villian way off in the distance he’s progressing just like any hero. It makes him a compelling character. How strong your villain is, is not the be all and end all of their value to a story. When it’s all said and done the fact that he’s not that OP right now but will be in the future will age like a fine wine I’m calling it now.
@justinmcdonald2072
@justinmcdonald2072 5 күн бұрын
Blackbeard's crew has several unknown members abilities I can't say past their durability they can't apply devastating damage; we know what Zoro and Sanji are capable of going all out. Two vs Nine or Ten Titanic Captains Sanji and Zoro are not winning. Zoro could not take out a Seraphim he matched well with alone cuffed to Kaku. Even taking a blade strike from S Hawk it did not cut Blackbeard the damage gets absorbed even as he takes the pain, he won't pass out, as a Yonkou two subordinates are not taking Blackbeard down with his crew backing him. Luffy could not do that we saw him try at Whole Cake.
@lijahsandz
@lijahsandz 3 күн бұрын
Zoro doesn’t have a devil fruit so he couldn’t be man handled by Blackbeard
@FifthAveink
@FifthAveink 5 күн бұрын
zoro was overwhelmed by fujitoras power .. not defeated but it worked on him.. it’s reasonable to believe blackbeard can win with his TWO devil fruits
@RimuruTempest-wl1ru
@RimuruTempest-wl1ru 4 күн бұрын
what does it matter if he was overwhelmed by fugitora's power in dressrosa when he's gotten massively stronger since then and even in dressrosa he managed to attack fugitora despite that crazy gravity bb's yami yami no mi has never shown gravity greater than fugitora's zushi zushi no mi
@solidkwon
@solidkwon 4 күн бұрын
Blackbeard is not a better “fighter” and he doesnt need to be. His fighting style is like Super Ego Vegeta, which is taking in the damage of the opponent, and shocking the enemy by coming right back harder. Blackbeard wouldnt dodge Zoro’s attacks. He would take it, act hurt, and then immediately recover, shocking Zoro , suck him and his weapons in with gravity and strike back with quake-coated attacks. Blackbeard’s durability is insane. Think of the way he fought Ace. He didnt dodge a single attack from Ace. He took all that fire and haki damage. And in the end overpowered Ace. This is a man that scarred Shanks and even Rayleigh admits that if they did fight, Rayleigh would have lost. Zoro at this level is not stronger than Shanks or Rayleigh. Blackbeard would absolutely win.
@JesusIsTheAlpha777
@JesusIsTheAlpha777 12 сағат бұрын
We still don’t know the material of the gate to this day😂
@danieloyebade708
@danieloyebade708 5 күн бұрын
Blackbeard wins and I’m a Zoro Stan(off stats) smh u good seb
@Ax1oM11oo
@Ax1oM11oo 4 күн бұрын
Zoro cannot beat BB. BB will make a burger out of him. Zoro cannot beat BB or Aokiji.
@xxlspat3146
@xxlspat3146 5 күн бұрын
They be talking about this, as if Blackbeard wasn't capable of destroying Rayleigh
@lovseaexploration
@lovseaexploration 2 күн бұрын
He struggled with S hawk
@itsjustsmoove9154
@itsjustsmoove9154 5 күн бұрын
It’s multiple angles in y’all argument, trying to get to the same ending. Is it who would win? Who’s more battle tested? Who has more moves to use. Let’s keep it simple and honest, this would probably end with them both dead in the sea Straight hands no fruit - Zoro mops Blackbeard. Fruit only - Blackbeard(the dark devil fruit becomes way less effective though… since zoro doesn’t have a devil fruit, still deadly though) Determination - zoro Innovation -Blackbeard Zoro’s fighting arrogance will be a negative for him If Blackbeard says anything negative about luffy…. He’s f***ed
@bromous1446
@bromous1446 3 күн бұрын
BB is easily the weakest Yonko, and it isn’t close, but saying he loses to ANY YC, yall trippin. We saw old Garp pulling off one of the greatest Haki feats in the entire series, and his equal is sengoku. 2 years ago, when BB just got the Gura, and he hadn’t even had the darkness fruit for a year by this point, was able to injure Sengoku. It’s been 2 years since that point, and he’s become significantly stronger since. The darkness fruit isn’t useless against non fruit users, it still attracts everything because it has the properties of gravity. We literally see Zoro in dressrosa being held down by gravity, so assuming the same couldn’t happen just because, it makes negative sense. And the Gura is absolutely dealing damage. One shot or not, there’s 0 argument to say it won’t do anything. It’s not even close, BB would absolutely stomp Zoro. Mid dif AT BEST.
@thasensei5120
@thasensei5120 5 күн бұрын
sacrificing integrity and credibility for views is tight!!!
@eirammelendez44
@eirammelendez44 2 күн бұрын
Just wanted to say I give up entirely in this channel and the entire panel. This is unbelievable
@threeminkrugs9262
@threeminkrugs9262 2 күн бұрын
This is insane that yall think zoro beating Blackbeard . Completely insane .
@Huevin-t9x
@Huevin-t9x 3 күн бұрын
Friend, it's obvious that these guys haven't seen One Piece, no matter how much it hurts Zoro has nothing to do against Blackbeard, the guy besides the Yami Yami, has the Gura Gura the most destructive fruit of all, in addition to having haki and that only if they reach him on his crew. And the other thing, if we remove Luffy and Blackbeard, Teach's crew would win without a doubt, currently the only ones who can fight them are Zoro, Sanji and Jimbe, and maybe they can even kill one or another but at 10 together they don't even defeat them at this point in the story without a power up, nami, chopper, ussop and brook, they would only get in the way in a hypothetical fight with teach
@ultramix9696
@ultramix9696 5 күн бұрын
Seb don’t even got a response for Law’s argument man lol. You can tell they all so tired of having this argument and NOBODY budging on their stances.
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 5 күн бұрын
Why are they always discussing about bb. Leave him a alone
@ultramix9696
@ultramix9696 5 күн бұрын
@ Well Seb is to Blackbeard what Fexr is to Mihawk, and Larry is basically the opposite of that. So there’s a lot of butting heads over that lol.
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 5 күн бұрын
​@@ultramix9696Sebastian si glazing bb and larry is just hating. I think bb can beat zoro and other yc but he would get bodied by luffy and that combined yonko attack
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 5 күн бұрын
​​​@@ultramix9696They are either overrating him or hating on him. I have heard bad bb takes from Sebastian and Larry. He is nowhere near yonko level but he can beat zoro.
@th3lunchtable
@th3lunchtable 3 күн бұрын
Whole time they lost the point of the conversation it was zero and sanji vs blackbeards crew 😂
@leonarcherjunior2090
@leonarcherjunior2090 5 күн бұрын
Bro whys this a debate 😂 Blackbeard beats Zoro 😆😆 nah yall zoro fans glazing too hard and gone too far. At this point i should expeft yall to say zoro beats Kaido, Shanks or even Akainu at this point.
@RimuruTempest-wl1ru
@RimuruTempest-wl1ru 4 күн бұрын
Nobody would say that cuz bb I weaker than all of the three you mentioned and is closer to Zoro.... Zoro has better stats and haki so it's definitely a close fight but bb has better hax biq and range so he wins but not easily like guys are making it to be
@mmccluney1
@mmccluney1 5 күн бұрын
SO to sev for having to put up with these two lmao ever episode shows me that Larry and co are not watching or reading the same one piece as usual
@josephandy21
@josephandy21 3 күн бұрын
WB got serious, left Akainu in a ditch unable to move after an angry non named punch with the quake. He could have pummbled his face in and killed him. Current Luffy still does not beat Old Sick WB but gives him a great fight. WB is built different...don't let MF fool y'all. They had to take other means to take down WB and wear him down. It was not a fair fight and a straight up fight. Old Sick WB is stronger than current Big Mom, Luffy, BB, and the OG Admirals but is weaker than Mihawk, Shanks, Dragon, and Kaido.
@lonedolo644
@lonedolo644 5 күн бұрын
Zoro is strong as hell. But BB is wiping Zoro easily cmon now. This shouldn’t even be a video
@zerogravity8982
@zerogravity8982 5 күн бұрын
Zoro mid diff BB.
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 4 күн бұрын
​@@zerogravity8982 Luffy low diffs zoro
@RimuruTempest-wl1ru
@RimuruTempest-wl1ru 4 күн бұрын
Zoro vs Bb is a high diff for bb.. bb is not beating Zoro easily
@josephandy21
@josephandy21 3 күн бұрын
Awakened Zoro thought fought King is stronger than the Zoro that was on roof top. Lucci is not stronger than King. Luffy and Zoro was playing with Awakened Lucci.
@lip3028
@lip3028 2 күн бұрын
Aokiji wipe half of blackbeards crew and was drinking in bar and still wanted that one with Blackbeard until was asked to join
@natrix0
@natrix0 4 күн бұрын
I know power scaling people hate this argument but obviously if you look at feats you can make and argument for Zoro > Blackbeard but narratively I don’t see Zoro taking it over the guy with two OVERPOWERED devil fruits and haki and is built up to be this big bad, if Luffy’s right hand can just pack him up he wouldn’t make for a good end game villain
@johnd8368
@johnd8368 3 күн бұрын
Aokiji could have packed all of BB pirates in one shot at the bar in flashback.
@jswag484
@jswag484 Күн бұрын
So here’s the thing are we discussing the capabilities of the fruit or what we have seen. For example if that’s the case Blackbeard could block out the sun, Akainu could do the Frieza and punch the ground and erupt the earths core, Kizaru could make the world an ice age it’s like, he is saying the guru is the strongest and yet we have several people who have tanked that attack. Hello 😅 prime beard knocked Oden away…not out 😅
@phantomlov7140
@phantomlov7140 5 күн бұрын
The crazy part about this, is the fact the question had nothing to do with BlackBeard. I am pretty sure the question was the crew vs Zoro and Sanji.
@Mrfish603
@Mrfish603 5 күн бұрын
Zoro and sanji are getting low diffed if they are getting jumped by all of the bb pirates.
@megaboy4nvn929
@megaboy4nvn929 5 күн бұрын
OMG Sebastian we dont know what we dont know lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@thisisjestice7872
@thisisjestice7872 5 күн бұрын
also blackbeard is black so it's a power up for zoro and easy win
@MidTeirHuman
@MidTeirHuman 5 күн бұрын
Why are we acting like bb wasn’t boxing with S-hawk and made it retreat after it saw one yami move like Rayleigh knew he couldn’t box with black beard how he was clashing with garp AND sengoku boxing. The first time he got the gura he tilted marine ford and cause tsunamis reaching farther than saboody which was better than an old whitebeard before the heart attacks
@djohnson4464
@djohnson4464 3 күн бұрын
If Zoro and BB fight off screen…gg’s for Zoro
@WarDocx
@WarDocx 5 күн бұрын
I love Zoro, dude is on my wallet, but I cant see him being able to take down BB by himself. Its not that Zoro isnt strong, but BB keeps dramatically being in pain from attacks, and then immediately gets back up and snuffs out his opponent. BB continues to keep taking powerful attacks head on, and then after a moment of pain, countering back. I kinda feel like ya'll just wanted to bully Seb for some reason 😂
@lm4733
@lm4733 Күн бұрын
Zoro Stans are something else 💀 the only character we know to have hurt shanks who is the haki king of OP and they really think zoro wins 😭😭
@IcarusWhits
@IcarusWhits Күн бұрын
OKAY LAW KEEP COOOKING!!!! IM ON EP 110 ON THE PODCAST BUT THIS IS THE HARDEST LAW COOKED WITHOUT HIS SHADOW CLONE!! KEEP TALKING!
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