11 Classic Guitar Effects Pedal Combinations - That Pedal Show

[@leeseibert4979]

Pretty please with sugar on top make a video where you intentionally show yourselves getting lost in a mix. Then of course demonstrate how to solve the problem by tweaking pedals until you triumphantly claw your way back to the forefront. It's the hardest thing to understand until it happens to you.

[@tompoynton]

I’d love to see a professional sound engineer on TPS

[@heybuddy6794]

@@tompoynton if just to see the comment section blow up 🤪 but great idea!

[@BrockBarr]

Usually it's about mid range and too much effects. These are common causes of getting lost in the mix especially in studio missing.

[@Diax1324]

@@BrockBarr Missing compression, as well. Using too much compression will end up with your guitar tone consisting entirely of transients, and then pumpy mush sitting below the drums and bass otherwise. GREAT for funk and subtle rhythm, TERRIBLE for standing out in a washy rock mix. Most bands don't play soft rock or prog all night long. Tidbits I've learned from thousands of hours of gigs: 1. Delay and reverb can get you lost, but can also make you stand out. LONG delays can actually work in your benefit. The EQ of the delay/reverb (If it is something you can adjust) is VITAL. Too bright and you might step all over your playing. Too dark and it will add a mushy noise underneath your playing without much information being transmitted. The main thing is to keep your mix very low. What you think is spacey is probably WAY too spacey to be usable. It doesn't take that much delay or reverb to communicate space. 2. Scoop is not actually bad, especially for rhythm. Vox AC30 with a klon clone will murder a singer and make it impossible to hear anything but guitar if you play rhythm. EQ pedal/multi channel amp is good for this. Or use two amps. An AC30/Marshall and a silverface fender circuit would probably be as good as it gets for a two amp switching setup. 3. Super high compression overdrive/compressor pedals is comfortable, but ultimately will make you fade into the backdrop of the mix if you overdo it. Found this out by using a tube preamp into the preamp of my amp normally. Way too much tube compression and sag. Great tone in the bedroom, missing body live. Some compressor pedals compensate for this with fairly aggressive EQ controls. The Diamond compressor is a GREAT compressor because it lets you add a lot of mids/highs with its EQ, which counters the negative effects of compression on your place in the mix.

[@klapaucjusz1]

This is a great topic. The fear of getting lost in the mix actually made me sound harsh on my last gig, which was also my first gig in years, and my first gig with new gear and new music. So I guess one can overdo it. TPS always talks a lot about risks of getting lost in the mix, but it cuts both ways.

[@patrickcarroll1754]

The best part about ThatPedalShow is Dan & Mick.

[@nathanrottmann2140]

No shizz

[@Zetamen7]

Mick: *name drops Johnny Marr* "Ah, if we only had a Rickenbacker" Perfectly good jaguar in the back: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@ThatPedalShow]

You are right! It’s a bit sick though. Needs help.... help is on the way!

[@garystackhouse5787]

17:53 "I much prefer it tremolo last", says Mick... "Yeah yeah... absolutely" adds Dan... whilst both are wearing a shirt showing a traditional signal chain with tremolo before reverb... ;-)

[@drSwan77]

Sharp eye :)

[@hoboroadie]

I am going to swap my Pan/Trems and my Phasers. Sounds discernible on TPS, give it a bash. 👍

[@BeefNEggs057]

I know. I based my order on their old pedal order. Guess it makes sense since amp trem is after your reverb pedal.

[@garystackhouse5787]

@@BeefNEggs057 ...but if you use your amp reverb and trem pedal.....

[@larsolufsen]

That yellow Tele ... I mean, I like Red, but that yellow tele is just THE tone. Everything that comes out of her is just so defined and well-balanced, and it’s just THE rock-tone to rule all rock-tones.

[@bryangarcia662]

32:35 4 years later... and you've done it! The Marr show was so good, well deserved.

[@sixstringstruggle6508]

So my favorite part of your shows is when you perfectly create a tone reminiscent of a time in history and then play in the style of what would be the iconic song from that time while at the same time not playing that song and skirting around the copyright laws. What a fun dance.

[@drbalchin1]

Never understood how people can't get on with vibrato, it's such a great sound! Stick some slow smooth vibrato on a clean signal - total bliss!

[@jdemedeiros1]

drbalchin1 I go through periods of time where my standard clean tone has vibrato

[@testinguk_Admin]

I recently added a Swart ST-Tremolo to my rig and the sound of the trem on that is unbelievable. Wonderful and useable in so many ways ...

[@testinguk_Admin]

To be clear ... I'm not sure if you meant to say "tremolo" instead of "vibrato". Vibrato is varying pitch (like a vibrato arm on a guitar) and tremolo is varying volume.

[@drbalchin1]

@@jdemedeiros1 I'm the same! Get to the point where i forget its even on

[@drbalchin1]

@@testinguk_Admin I mean vibrato! I do love tremolo too though!

[@2Plus2isChicken2013]

I just started watching and I hope they talk about my favorite combination of effects, which would be a Boss TU-2 going into a TU-3. It’s amazing.

[@LeftOpenOfficial]

Sound Guy Vs Guitarist episode, bringing in a professional sound technician and showing us some tips/tricks behind the scenes on dealing with guitarist

[@OtherTheDave]

Mostly just don’t put the mic in the spot where the amp sounds like an ice pick, and don’t let them aim their amps right at a vocal mic. Unless they’re just way too loud, guitarists usually aren’t that bad.

[@ulisescerrato8758]

That flanger+delay is awesome. In love with that tone.

[@hazzyg24]

One of my favourite go to sounds for ambient guitar stuff is a slow, gentle vibrato and a really strong, big reverb sound. The vibrato adds depth and layers to your sound while the reverb smears the "out of tune'ness" into a landscape of ambience!

[@error8418]

When you see the Kingsley Page and a Neo Vent together on one pedalboard you now it's gonna sound awesome.

[@centralswitzerland]

LOVE that sound. But I can't remember the big song riff/sound Mick starts with (29:58)? Was a big one, WHO????? Please help!!!

[@CorbCorbin]

centralswitzerland He did a couple notes of Badge, then Born to be Wild.

[@stephanmeier2139]

@@CorbCorbin Badge!!!! Thanks a lot!!!

[@Danthehorse]

Thanks for putting the time stamps to your vids in the description guys, makes it so much easier to go back to fav parts.

[@DanPeacock]

The thing I love about your show, guys, is how much joy you exhibit when you get a sound you love. I've learned so much from you guys and folks like Brian Wampler (honk) and Josh Scott (honk) about how to shape sound. Love it love it love it

[@jdemedeiros1]

So many great combos mentioned here! One of my personal favorites: octave down with high gain or fuzz. Talk about wall of sound, makes me feel like a rockstar in my basement! Cheers from Massachusetts!

[@GeoffByrdMusic]

The Vibrato section of the Waza Chorus pedal is the ONLY vibrato I have ever bonded with. It's not seasick, it's just sits perfectly in a mix and modulates a bit like tremolo. Gorgeous. I don't like the out of tune warble of most vibratos.

[@dowaliby1]

Loved this episode! I am endlessly inspired by TPS, and by Mick and Dan's beautiful playing. I have found that pairing my Wampler Mini Ego Compressor with any one (or more ) of my pedals is a match made in tonal Heaven. The Ego (blend and sustain at 50%) + Ibanez TS9 Tube Screamer (gain off, level dimed) yields holy grail clean tones through my tube amps, especially with my Strat. The combination of either or both of those pedals with the Canyon Delay sounds great, as well. The Ego and TS9 (same settings as above) in front of my Friedman BE OD gain/distortion pedal, yields a smooth, round, saturated high gain sound. The Friedman has a great sound on its own, but with the aforementioned stacking, there is a fullness and depth that I wasn't getting from the Friedman alone. The tone is huge. For light and medium gain, the combination of the Ego and the Tumnus is fabulous, particularly with the Tele. It's a great feeling to be getting my board and my sound pretty well sorted.

[@Skybluetoo]

Great show. I was right back in the 80’s at one point. Love the captain Anderton lick at 21:50!

[@xx-ip7ej]

11:27 what a stage move! did you guys practice?

[@SFolkes97]

For me, one of the best from TPS. Mick's playing exceptionally appropriate - the Jazzmaster-Comp-Page-Tremolo especially interesting. Then the almost guitar-as-bagpipes reverse echo at the end. Fascinating stuff, yet basic and simple.

[@HiVizSmiley]

I'm a happy man anytime the vent or Sun face is on the board, hearing them together was sublime!

[@samhatman6536]

6:49 is you two having so much fun! I shared it with a band mate who wants to have a channel of our own. Your decibel meter is reading 88:8. That's Chinese numerology for all the luck in the world. Not a follower of such things, but I do wish you two many happy years in your endeavor. We all benefit tremendously from your experience so freely shared, and Dan, by your joyous expression and Mick's obvious glee as he took off when you ratcheted up the reverb for him, just wonderful. Gentlemen, you are good medicine for all our collective hearts and souls!

[@JonDoe-wb1qo]

This channel is truly the most informatively relevant source of info for one like me who can just play the guitar enough to enjoy the ability to (and the reason to buy) use effects pedals.

[@stevengarvey5782]

Lovely show, gents. Guess I'm going to have to dig out my old dyna comp and phase 90. They were mainstays on my board for decades but fell by the wayside over time. Be well.

[@geoffnightingale9290]

Crappy week at work.. good soul food.. my happy place is an old BK Tube Driver and old CE-2.. .. magic

[@alphanuevo]

This was great! Thanks! Much food for thought... I've been enjoying overdrive > tape echo > reverb > amp with more reverb Cheers from Seattle.

[@michaelinglis8516]

I've been a proponent of treble boosters into Kona for a long time now. The warmth of the klon being boosted by a cutting treble booster is just such a great tone that can be very similar to a treble booster into a warm crunchy Marshall. I built a treble booster fuzz face dual pedal that has order switching (fuzz face is germanium NTE158'S and treble booster is a Brian May style Silicon MPSA18). The order switching is great because the pedals react COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY depending on which is first/last. With the treble booster first you get more gain and with the fuzz first you get more volume. I really love running my Fuzz Face with the input control down and the guitar volume rolled off a bit then using the treble booster after it to being the volume back up. That pedal also has a ton of mods and it has a special 3.5mm jack that runs power to my active pickups. Since I cant use a fuzz face or treble booster with actives I just use the power from the pedal (which comes from a variable power supply) to power the pickups through a TRS cable. No more batteries and I can control the exact voltage that goes to the pickups. And best thing is that i can just plug and play any guitar active or passive with this set up. Anyways i rambled point was that I was happy to see you included the treble booster/overdrive part since it's such a great combination that you dont hear about enough. I also have to mention that my fuzz face treble booster dual pedal isnt an original idea, some of its mods are, but the inspiration came from analogmans Sunlion fuzz. I always loved the Sunlion pedal but wanted a version with a order switcher toggle and a humbucker/single coil selector for the treble booster as well as 3 different tone settings for the treble booster so I just built one. Great video as always! Rambling complete.

[@stevencoleman9013]

Love a lot of the combinations used here, but I also have gained a new appreciation for my Dyna Comp!

[@DeathByHumbuckers]

D&M this was perhaps your best video so far. Genuinely inspirational. Thank you both.

[@alexkavo8930]

Hey guys, those flanger sounds were awesome. Some of the combinations I love are- Harmonic Trem into Overdrive Chorus into delay Fuzz into harmonic trem Vibe into compression

[@johnfritzenjr.1240]

That yellow Tele is amazing!

[@josephpickard3108]

Isn't it crazy that so many distortion pedals out there, no matter how boutique they are, still ape the humble ProCo Rat? Such an amazing pedal

[@Guitar_Ted]

Hey guys, thanks for this info. It's timely for me as I am getting a new fuzz pedal soon and am taking the opportunity to rearrange my board when it comes in. You are not only giving me inspiration for combinations, but you are informing my pedal order on the board. Tremolo AFTER reverb! Thank you!

[@maximeguieu6877]

Guys... tremolo after reverb is one of the best tips I’ve learned from you thanks a lot !!! It is just what was missing to my association between Mad Professor Silver Spring Reverb and Henrietta Engeneering Crimson Tremolo... it’s gorgeous !!!

[@nicolasvandermeer2145]

Nice playing Dan! Great to see you getting lost in the sound and feeling the flow. Could you do a Vlog about flow and being “in the moment”? Such a fascinating topic in the context of gear

[@JohnMcKLV]

Yes - that absolutely nailed the "How Soon Is Now" sound! Hilarious and cool.

[@coreyclark6505]

I recently began experimenting with reverb in front of drives and love it! And now I think a compressor in front of chorus is in my future. Thanks!

[@LemonHolidayProd]

A couple potent pairings are octave fuzz before a klon-style overdrive, and a POG before a heavy gain pedal. Also, analog and digital delay together with a timing relationship.

[@josephpickard3108]

Those Dimension Cs are just spectacular. Every setting is like a John Hughes movie

[@fishypaw]

47:28: "Hark when the night is falling" "Hear! Hear the pipes are calling" I dinnae ken that wee Mick could play tha Bag Pipes.

[@massimilianopersico1283]

Greatest insights ever, guys! Thanks so much

[@chipsterb4946]

Flanger => Delay was really eye opening for me. I instantly heard a favorite Dave Mason song. The reverse delay was also very cool 😎

[@TheMichaelseymour]

0:44 micks face is the ultimate compliment one guitar player can give to another .....universal for right on brother.

[@nastamasterx]

Half way through this episode, I’m thinking: I have to watch it again! Amazing job!

[@anthonytylermusic]

I avoided this one for a few days... Glad I finally bit down hard and watched (listened). Nice show. Very much so.

[@mikewilkinson4588]

You guys are good....I am getting back into playing since moving into an rv.....your look at John Mayers setup is greatly appreciated.......

[@TCMx3]

Appreciate the increased focus on clean sounds this week; the subject matter is very back to basics but nice tones abound and Mick's playing really on point this week so very happy to spend the 53 minutes.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thank you!

[@goregamer100]

i like delay into chorus. delay into 2 amps. chorus in one. playing with the repeats sounds great!

[@kosmicwizard]

Great episode! My favourite reverse delay is the Talkback.

[@nateost]

Way fun show! Would happily watch several more like that. Thanks to you guys!

[@jonathanhillenbrand132]

Thankful for That Podalcast today! Waiting in the hospital eagerly as my wife pops out a new squirt, so pods are all I've got. Reverb into trem for DAYS, please.

[@alexbresseleers147]

Always a good moment when I receive notification that you guys posted a new video. Love it!

[@arceneaux777]

The end was hysterical - thank you for the laughs and the knowledge.

[@danmessore4553]

This is bloody brilliant! Love the show chaps!

[@kasperdavide5174]

Very good idea and video. Thank you.

[@joshuagardner4095]

I am the only guitarist (and lead singer) for my church band. I am now going to use reverse delay this weekend on the one guitar solo I play (at the very end of the service). Signal chain at that point will be Rat clone>Tumnus>Reverse Delay>Plate reverb.

[@warrborn_official]

Mick just wailing out the country at 12:20 well played brother!

[@MrMikkelodgaard]

Yet another great episode. These days I’m very much digging a tremolo set pretty light into a dirty envelope filter (tc’s Pipeline into an ehx Tube Zipper). ...in a wet/dry setup, of course and because of you guys :)

[@billsherrington5996]

Monster intro Dan! And lovely bit of Jerry Donahue to boot Mick👍🏽

[@visarkuci]

Thank you Guys... Great and Super helpful show... I have only one question about the 3 combination (compresor and delay): Does the Compressor go in to the Delay or dhe Delay in to the Compressor?

[@khai_nomore8613]

Fuzz and wah can never go wrong. My favourite combination. Great two pedal series, that was entertaining.

[@MrWhit30]

Excellent show guys!

[@MichaelBanfieldGuitar]

Brilliant. More please! Octave and delay with a volume pedal for organ effects would be great.

[@Aleph_Null_Audio]

I wouldn't say it's classic, but a favorite of mine is tremolo _into_ fuzz. The choppier the trem the better. The volume doesn't change, but the saturation does. It sounds really mean!

[@coquipeludo]

Great video, guys! What was Dan using in the opening of the video?

[@angryxjx4856]

Amazing video guys....well done

[@southpaw335]

“Upsetting singers with obtuse effects” - my new mission in life ;-)

[@ericcarpenter3263]

Everything I’ve ever heard about Eddie is, on the first few albums he would step on the Phase 90 to boost the highs on solos and had the speed turned all the way down. Great show as always.

[@tonybrooks476]

Wah. Officially underused in modern music. There’s nothing like it.

[@hoboroadie]

I guess I need one. The MRB is busted on every one of my Vox amps. I reckon I need to spend like a couple hundred on capacitors, or something. Just like the Chorus on my Roland, it's always that "You had one job!" thing around here. 😣

[@DavidWilliams-iq3eu]

I was lucky enough to be at the Eric Clapton Ginger Baker tribute gig a few weeks back. That was wah heaven - Eric, Ronnie Wood, Nile Rogers all wahing away on Cream and Blind Faith songs.

[@sjdavies47]

Really good episode. Gotta love that wah/fuzz sound. Not particularly related, but you do need a SG in the rack.

[@bryanlewis9575]

Absolutely awesome Playing, Mick with the wah/fuzz!! Classic "getcha some of this!" Great show as always gentlemen!! Thank you!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thank you!

[@andysolomon279]

PUT THEM ALL ON!

[@nicennice]

Really late to this one but I really enjoyed this and learnt so much. Rebuilding my pedalboard at the moment so much to look forward to now.

[@user-oy7gz5bf2h]

That's a precious episode! Very valuable. BTW, I've been asked to do a workshop on guitar sounds for high school kids. Your shows will have helped with that!

[@weschilton]

So very cool! Combos I know well and combos that were new to me.... and damn those Vents sound SO GOOD. I need a harmonic tremolo and a Micro-Vent. I forgot how good the Dimension C sounds too! Dan once again playing gorgeously inspired with the delay and flange.... just sublime!

[@danielmyers9946]

Fuzz into a harmoniser pedal such as a Quintessence or a Harmonist, or even a straight octaver (with a low octave in) was a game changing sound for me. I run a Hudson Broadcast into a Quintessence and its magic.

[@jarrahparry]

Yes, do a video on how to cut through the mix pretty please TPS. Is this where I use my 100w valve amp with 2 2x12 cabs ;)

[@jimwilliamson9893]

Great show, gents. On the topic of High Gain and Vibrato, while not much use in single-note blues lines, remember Kevin Shields got lots of shoe-gazy riff mileage out of that blend. Throw in your reverse reverb, and Robert's your mother's brother.

[@tedc6694]

For me, this is one of the most useful episodes

[@dunhamchris]

Mick - I would love a vlog on how to use wah wah like you... different types, buffer vs no buffer, where you like it in the chain and why... etc.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Let’s do it. I know wah-wahs about as well as I do Les Pauls. Ie, not really. Could be fun!

[@karllongbottomguitars9192]

I booked tickets to see you guy's in Liverpool the other day. I went to see Phil X last night in Manchester, where he seamlessly blended a line of the Flintstones into Jimi Hendrix's fire, played behind the nut etc, a full on entertainer never a dull moment, the man's a genius

[@danmist]

Chorus+ light flange is brilliant. Stick an overdrive or fuzz on that and woah!

[@mikedr1549]

The wonderful playing of Dan and Mick is the thing that really makes TPS great. Bravo!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thank you Mike, very kind!

[@lesthompson1773]

Great show.. I always have issues with combinations obvious and the abstract. Thanks for combo's.

[@peddlereffects]

The Crybaby Mini has a "voice" switch inside that I found incredibly helpful in getting a good combo with my fuzz face. When you do you next wah show it is worth including the CB Mini because it's reasonably priced but comes standard with true bypass (solving the problems you noticed in your last wah show) and the mini size is helpful for keeping in a gig bag.

[@markferguson3745]

Like all MXR/Dunlop, the TB is an intentional misnomer; they use "True Hardwire Bypass", which IS not the same thing.I do own that mini, and do know that it was, nonetheless, designed to work with Fuzz .I don't think it is great sounding, compared to a Fulltone Clyde, Colorsound, or Teese, but it does the job. Told that this is still done so they can save a few pennies on a more expensive switch.

[@hedgehogstv2132]

Snakes alive! That tele sounds phenomenal in the intro.

[@jimleininger8963]

Great show! Regarding your point on Reverb pre or post Delay, I'm with you on reverb before multiple repeat delay, but what would your preference be with slap-back, one repeat? Slap-back pre or post reverb, and why

[@mfrankelnyny]

Geezers - this show makes my week, keep it going! I'm not yet current, so need to ask a backdated question on wet/dry. What are your thoughts on a 4x12 cab split with a Mesa head into 2 speakers and an Orange head into the other 2? Never occurred to me to do this until you made the point in the VCQ that wet/dry does not mean panned field.

[@tonyvardy2399]

OCTAVE AND FUZZ WHAT A KILLER SOUND!

[@jimbeaux4988]

This was delightful. A slap after the wah and fuzz is also nice.

[@GazMoz78]

Great show guys! Van Halen: Ain't talkin bout love was a flanger. Atomic Punk and Eruption was the Phase 90 :-)

[@mattburdock1734]

I though ATBL only had flange on the C-B-C at the end of the main riff? Pretty sure there's phase and chorus in the mix throughout

[@benjaminwoodrowmusic6070]

@@mattburdock1734 flanger on those notes in the riff...phaser on the solos...then flanger in that middle section just after the quiet section 👍

[@chopair8169]

Great episode! I learned a lot and was very inspired. Could you expand on the idea of why the wah into fuzz sounded better with the buffer on? I know germanium fuzzes don't like buffers. Is it that silicon fuzzes like them, or some other reasons? Thanks! I love your show.

[@stratmanuk]

Johnny Marr! Has he been on the show? I was always a metal guy but there was just something about Johnny Marr's playing that was so cool!

[@qissahelpdesk4850]

INSIGHTFUL EPISODE GUYS! THX!

[@davidkieltyka9]

Black Strat sounding really good in this ep. The bridge pickup has a nice twang thang goin’ on.

[@DragonofLimerick]

Thoroughly enjoyed this as always!

[@TheGreensideProject]

My top pedal combination is a Carbon Copy with the 'modulation' turned on, into a tremolo set to a low-throb. It's a sort-of ghetto Univibe kinda feel, but less dramatic.

[@bleeknoir]

Love the Marr references this week gentlemen . I went to my 28th Morrissey show in Leeds last night. Under rated guitar players... BOZ BOORER. Always. Great show as always guys.

[@fishypaw]

Cool episode. One of my favourite combinations = Mick and Dan. 🤘😎🤘 That black strat looks so much like my 20yr old strat. Even got same colour pick guard. I'm just about to re-fret it. Which will be my first attempt at re-fret job. Wish me luck.