THE #1 FUEL-SAVING TIP FOR LEXUS & TOYOTA HYBRIDS!

In this video, I reveal your vehicle's #1 fuel-saving tip - the Pulse and Glide technique. By mastering this technique, you'll be able to maximize your fuel economy and save money in the long run.
I walk you through the step-by-step process of pulse and glide, showing you how to alternate between acceleration and coasting to achieve the best possible fuel efficiency. You'll learn the ideal speed ranges for pulse and glide and how to read your car's fuel economy gauge to know when to use this technique.
Not only will this tip save you money on gas, but it's also an environmentally friendly way to drive. So if you're ready to take your fuel efficiency to the next level, join me and learn how to master the pulse and glide technique for your Lexus or Toyota.
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[@JanetteMacNair]

I love this video. The best one I've found. I've driven hybrids for a few yrs now and thankfully I've been using the pulse and glide method without realising!

[@carswithsonduren]

Thanks my man :)

[@mohawkin]

Thanks for sharing! I have a Lexus ES 300h and this is an approach that I stumbled upon unintentionally. I was noticing the EV symbol displaying on the dashboard as I pressed and released the accelerator. The result was my mpg went from 44 to 54 mpg. Your video explains the method to the madness 🙂 Thanks again.

[@carswithsonduren]

Anytime glad it was helpful and welcome to the channel :)

[@stealth6041]

How does the EV symbol play into this? Should it display when you press the gas pedal again to keep the momentum going?

[@bobbyfox3013]

Thanks for the gas saving tips, life in general is getting more expensive so leaving money in your pocket or your bank is a plus!!💯

[@carswithsonduren]

Anytime Bobby! Inflation is still a huge problem in Canada everything is just getting so expensive so hopefully this is just 1 thing to help folks save some money 💴

[@srikanthrbs1362]

Great Tip man. I live in the GTA and the fuel prices drove me to get my 2025 NX350h. I got the executive, so there is a bit more weight to the car. But its astonishing how the mileage is not greatly effected. Iv been using the pulse and Glide method and its a great way to manipulate the Hybrid system. Its a ew car 5 days old and it started at 8.5 but now dropped to 6.8. Im sure it will drop more. You explained this is such a simple way, without complicating it. Great video.

[@SilviuD1965]

Thank you for the tip ! Finaly getting 5.5 to 5.9 l/100km as expected from my hybrid...

[@johnharris7191]

I bought a new Toyota Rav 4 hybrid and my first tank of gas I averaged 43mpg. The pulse and glide comes naturally from using the hybrid gage.

[@omendarklight1526]

Just got an update on my delivery for the NX 350 F Sport, should be by the end of the month. I'm glad you're still making videos about it, you're very helpful and informative. More so than others. I see that when compared to the German and European brands people belittle this car for not having a big WOW factor. Speed is plenty, comfort superb, and reliability is king. Therfore Lexus takes it again. Great Advice!

[@carswithsonduren]

Nice! It’s coming so soon 🙏 Thanks for the kind words Omen, make sure you get a picture on delivery day :)

[@omendarklight1526]

@@carswithsonduren Thank you, and will do. Hoping for the best 🙏🏾

[@carswithsonduren]

Try it for yourself and see how much more fuel you can save! I am curious to hear how much more fuel this can save you all 🤔

[@william6765]

I have been using adaptive cruise control while in ECO mode while on highway and I see a difference. But I will try the pulse and glide

[@carswithsonduren]

Try the pulse and glide technique and let me know in the city. That’s mainly where you will see a difference!

[@gilbrook]

Great tip. Would have been even better to have closeup of Energy Monitor.

[@asirigodage785]

I’ve experimented with the 'pulse and glide' technique and found it doesn’t actually save fuel. When you accelerate quickly (as suggested around 1:44), you’re forcing the engine to burn more fuel, which seems to negate any benefit gained during the 'glide' phase when coasting. While some might perceive this method as fuel-saving, it feels more like a placebo effect to me. Personally, I didn’t see any real improvement in fuel efficiency. 🙂

[@shaba.4114]

Great tip 👍

[@WaseemAli-zu7wu]

Basically you are saying that after buying lexus you don't need to enjoy the drive. By the way nice tip for saving fuel.

[@polarbear4612]

In my RAV4 hybrid I go from 0 to about 40km/hr without having the engine come on. As soon as it does, I use the pulse and glide. I’m getting 5.8l/100km (50 MPG) mostly city.

[@13Dalek]

I have had my Rav 4 hybrid 2024 for 3 weeks my fuel is 5.6/100km very happy but I am going to try your technique. Thanks

[@carswithsonduren]

Let me know how much you improve it :)

[@vmgf1437]

Don't hammer the throttle when pulsing because that will use more fuel than pulsing moderatly. You want to get to your max speed ( when the gas engine is on ) relatively quickly, but you shouldn't be racing to get there.

[@Josh-hp2gg]

brother please tell me, what does this look like? give me a time to an mph so i can do it myself 🙏

[@markd8931]

Does pulsing and gliding cause any ware on the batter over time vs normal driving? Thank you

[@mikebedford4362]

Fantastic video! I have a 450h+ on order and these are soooo interesting. Thank you

[@carswithsonduren]

Thanks Mike! When do you get your 450h+?!

[@mikebedford4362]

@@carswithsonduren I ordered it last September and haven't got a delivery date yet. Fingers crossed the dealer said maybe before Christmas. There's so much to learn about them as there's so much technology in them. Thanks again, fascinating stuff!

[@carswithsonduren]

Hopefully it comes soon! It’s an amazing vehicle. You’re going to absolutely love it. Keep me updated when it finally arrives and how you enjoy it.

[@mikebedford4362]

@@carswithsonduren Will do, thanks again and keep the Lexus NX content coming. I've got a mate also who is about to order one and we are glued to NX content 😁

[@chrisburgess6964]

I bought the Ford Escape plug in. Same as the Rav 4 in essence as Toyota and Ford work together on hybrid technology. I did a long trip in Eco Mode and switched in between modes to see the difference. Prince George to Terrace on the way there The car said 60kms left in miles left. On the way back the car said I had 178kms left in full eco mode using the save for later. Auto EV works. But what gave me the difference in fuel economy was coasting down the hills in neutral. Driving a lower speeds managed in some cases 3.7 liters per 100kms. I would not go crazy on plugging it in. On the trip I had a rest stop with a plug in and charged it full on the way there on the way back only had 10kms of charge. Sport mode recharged the battery the best on a downhill. Coasting in neutral doesn't use gas the engine is off in neutral. The quicker slow down leaving it in Gear wasn't worth it unless the speed can be maintained.

[@EddieLee-xw3zw]

Nice concept and great video. Quick question, when the car is gliding, is it also recharging the battery?

[@carswithsonduren]

Yes it is slight in moments.

[@Marquee_Gaming88]

Yes

[@aalberto4961]

I have not heard that term "pulse and glide" since I owned my 2006 Prius. Back then that was a hack to get more mileage out of that car. I was able to get just over 3L /100km in the city back then. Another hack was driving behind really close to a tractor trailer in the highway to get that air effect and reduce drag. I do not suggest anyone do that because it is dangerous but it does work. Me and the wife went fully electric about 6 years now and we are never going back to gas mobiles. I wish Toyota will make a fully electric 4Runner one day, that would be amazing.

[@kenvik-q5t]

Ot using the right choice of English. Here in America we hybrid drivers call how to coasting. Coasting is exactly once you get to particular road max speed allowed you start coasting, i.e., very light or not at all keeping your right foot on the accelerator. This skills of how to coast, or alternative,y using the cruise control at less than the max speed allowed approximately will give you very similar outcome, depends on the distance travel on not busy highways. Using already two different brands full pre-owned hybrids with low mileage including Rx 450h AWD lately, I was more successful w/ fuel economy when using the cruise control at optimal speed (different for different hybrid vehicles) than using the “coasting” technique.

[@panayiotissofianopoulos2523]

In my new Toyota Yaris hybrid, is it OK to almost always use the ECO mode? I drive mainly in urban environment with once per day has heavy traffic (in the mornings), cars move a little, stop, go, and move a little, stop and go, etc. and in the evening has light / mild traffic. Or is it better to use the NORMAL mode, "always", as the default? My main goal, is to achieve the best fuel economy, to pay less for gas and get more mileage.

[@denvernn]

Great tip. I learned something new.

[@carswithsonduren]

Mission accomplished 😎🙏

[@billyrock8305]

Awesome 👍

[@victorespinozapena3568]

Good tip! Do you do it with ECO mode to maximize it?

[@carswithsonduren]

Yes, ideally you’re an Eco mode which will further improve fuel economy versus that’s a sports mode which will prioritize more aggressive, engine, throttle, and transmission behaviour.

[@TolgaDag-nk5wg]

@@carswithsondurenwould you recommend using eco mode in the winter as well? I hear ppl advising against it in the winter. What’s your take? Thanks

[@carswithsonduren]

@TolgaDag-nk5wg no need to even bother. I just keep it in default Eco mode. The computer will do all of the adjustments to maximize the economy.

[@TolgaDag-nk5wg]

@@carswithsonduren sounds good. Thanks for these tips. Kind of off topic but I spillled a large amount of water on my front seat. I dried it off with a cloth but some leakes on the floor which has these hybrid wirings underneath . Apparently hybrids are prone to water damage. Should I be worried? Thanks

[@carswithsonduren]

@TolgaDag-nk5wg anytime. Honestly I wouldn’t be worried about it. Turn up the heat and let things dry :)

[@flyingsquad124]

Brilliant $$$ saving tip! Thank you!!

[@Napster_19]

Great video! Nice explanation and a very good tip. Just curious what fuel type do you use for NX 350H? Regular or Premium? I’m planning to go for NX 350H, partly inspired by your reviews 😉 You are doing great, keep going.

[@carswithsonduren]

Thanks my man :) Regular is the minimum required so I’m using 87 octane. You will love this SUV :)

[@phalisatumblin1249]

I bought a 2025 Camry hybrid 2 weeks ago my first hybrid car..the sales guy only explained the EV mode told me that's the only time the car is. driving in electric is under 25 mph. He didn't tell me about this pulsing how do you do that?

[@Ingline-wg9lh]

Not true. I own a Toyota Corolla Hybrid and it will go into electric at 50mph.

[@phalisatumblin1249]

@Ingline-wg9lh I have a Camry you have a Corolla two different cars...YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT I''M EXPERIENCING WITH MY CAR STFU!😡

[@Marquee_Gaming88]

​​@@phalisatumblin1249 i have a 25 camry too i believe its how you press the gas up to speed then releasing the gas to coast im still also getting used to it but somehow i can do 50mph just using the battery

[@sharatchandrakoganti6187]

@carswithsonduren Thanks for your videos ;) How much mileage you are seeing in your NX350h? Currently, I see 6.4/100 in my car. I use Costco gas but some people raised concerns about it. Can you clarify? What's the normal mileage for NX 350h?

[@carswithsonduren]

That’s about right, I’ve been able to get into the 4.8-4.9L / 100 KM in the most ideal conditions.

[@AnassHajThami]

Hey Man, thanks a lot for the useful tip, i have been using the pulse and glide without knowing with my gasoline cars :D with my old GOLF V i was at 5.6/6.0 per 100KM (30% city 70% highway) New to hybrids i have been doing research on tips on how to efficiently drive one, and pulse and glide was the term of the technique i've been driving with :D My question is, do you advise driving on eco mode even on highways while doing pulse and glide ? Thank you so much

[@carswithsonduren]

On the highway you will be basically running fully on the gasoline engine, so it doesn’t really matter.

[@Renovatio42]

Don’t hold the steering wheel, got it! Haha! Thanks for the video and explanation. Please drive safely.

[@Jeo-What]

Looking for fuel saving tips for my HEV and came across this video. I do have a 350,000KM+ 2004 Toyota 8-seat Sienna (obviously not a HEV); however, I also have a 140,000KM+ FWD 2019 KIA Niro HEV (6-Speed DCT-Dual Clutch Transmission not a CVT) and currently getting 4.065 L/100KM, 24.6KM/L, 57.87MPG-US, 69.50MPG-UK during summer driving on a second new set of All-Weather snow approved (for insurance discount) Michelin Cross Climate2 (OEM was Michelin Energy Saver A/s, only good only for MPG/dry/warm weather. Save a lot not having to buy a set of winter & pay twice a year for tire swapping). I have been careful with hypermiling however, never fully understood the full pulse & glide technic until seeing this video demonstration. I will adjust a bit of my current practice and see if this method will also improve my MPG on a FWD DCT HEV. Thank you & I will watch the additional videos you had made related to this topic. 👍

[@carswithsonduren]

That’s incredible fuel economy you are getting! Super glad you found the video helpful and welcome to the channel my friend.

[@sansin6250]

Which one is a better hybrid - RX350h or the NX350h ? Which model is more prone to switching to gas engine more frequently?

[@carswithsonduren]

I’d assume since the NX is smaller and lighter the NX.

[@william6765]

I don’t need a lot of passenger room so the NX 350h is better for me. You don’t pay as much for the NX and gas mileage is better

[@BigUrsu-Back]

I do own a Toyota Highlander Hybrid (2.5 l), and cannot manage to do that. I tried Sport, Normal and Eco, the throttle is very responsive and when entering EV mode i cannot sustain speeds more than 40km/h (i see you do 75).

[@johnstegura1132]

Do you run premium in your old Is 250 or regular?!🤔

[@carswithsonduren]

Regular gas. You should see what your car recommends as the minimum requirement.

[@sharatchandrakoganti6187]

@@carswithsonduren Do you use Regular or Premium gas in your Lexus NX 350h?

[@carswithsonduren]

@sharatchandrakoganti6187 regular. premium is not required

[@sharatchandrakoganti6187]

@@carswithsonduren Thank you for prompt response. Did you do any rust protection for NX? What do you recommend?

[@carswithsonduren]

@sharatchandrakoganti6187 no because it comes with factory rust prevention, but I could apply in an while if I wanted to.

[@micheltran7115]

I heard that if you input your destination in the GPS, the car will know when to use electric and when to use gas depending on the elevation/inclinaison.

[@carswithsonduren]

I don’t know if this is true for the hybrid models. I have never seen any indication that it’s aware and is doing this.

[@Bonjurro]

I’ve read somewhere that this was US only. The vehicle will know there’s a long decent ahead so it will spend more battery so it can get maximum regen when it is able to.

[@91karol]

9:04 this is kind of funny, when you drive ~$55k car and telling about saving "a dollar" XDD

[@sharatchandrakoganti6187]

@carswithsonduren Where did you buy the Lexus Replica rims for winter tires? How much does it cost?

[@carswithsonduren]

Here they are: factoryreproductions.com/product-category/lexus/. It ended up costing me $2100 CAD with Xice tires

[@danieljensen8478]

This seem like that would be crazy annoying for other drivers, I have hybrid myself, but before hybrid I hated people who kept changing speed.

[@alsheremeta]

I agree completely with you, I have a Venza hybrid and only use this technique when it will not affect other drivers, traffic moves the best and most safely when everyone goes the same constant speed.

[@juanmateus8560]

Does this pulse and glide technique work if i use cruise control? Or only if use the pedal? Thank you.

[@SeanBaker]

You can't pulse and glide using the cruise control because the cruise control is controlling the pedal. If you do use cruise control, the car will randomly go into battery mode only when it deems necessary.

[@stevenguerra2575]

Were u in eco mode in the video?

[@carswithsonduren]

Yes!

[@0bzen22]

That's what I've doing recently, and how I gain efficiency. It works, but it's also a lot of work and a bit distracting. But you can save a bit of fuel, I guess. On the highway and motorway, don't bother. That's more for city, suburbs, and country lanes. Above 50 mph, there's too much drag to make s difference.

[@arebal1]

When you glide do you press the break or just leave the accelerator?

[@carswithsonduren]

Just leave it!

[@omertopuz5598]

Hello, in my hybrid vehicle, from time to time the engine temperature is normal, when the air conditioner is not working and I am driving in the eco zone, it happens that it is not working only with the electric motor. What could be the reason? Have you encountered such a situation?

[@carswithsonduren]

Which vehicle do you have? Sounds odd to me.

[@omertopuz5598]

​@@carswithsonduren2023 corolla cross 1.8 hybrid

[@SeanBaker]

Only thing I can add is that the car knows when and when not to use the engine. It's annoying that the car doesn't run on electric only every time that you think it should, but the more you drive it, the more you learn how the car works.

[@jeffjo8732]

If it is so helpful, one has to wonder why Toyota Engineers didn't incorporate Pulse & Glide into their control systems. Like Honda does. (Well, I know why they can't, but I'll get there.) Here's why P&G works, based on the engine in a third generation (I think) Prius. I choose it because I have the BSFC (Brake Specific Fuel Consumption) map for it. BSFC is how many grams of fuel it takes to make one kWh of useful energy, as a function of RPM and the power generated.The demonstration is just an approximation. And it would be more dramatic for, say, a Camry because it has a larger engine; I just don't have that data. The Prius engine will never make less than 13 HP while driving. Toyota actually publishes an operational line that cuts off there. This is what determines when the engine comes on when accelerating from a stop, not speed. But since the HP needed is proportional to speed, harder acceleration makes it turn on at lower a speed. With the optimum RPM (it is different for each power level): HP=13, BSFC~=222 g/kWh HP=15, BSFC~=219 g/kWh HP=20, BSFC~=218 g/kWh HP=25, BSFC~=216 g/kWh HP=28.5, BSFC~=214 g/kWh

[@jerrysimeone]

At times I can see how the technic works but sometimes the engine stays on even going down a non steep hill. What does this mean when the engine stays on for longer than expected? I m new to the world of hybrids. Only one week now. The total miles driven seems to match the miles to empty and I don’t think it’s suppose to work like that correct? Thanks for your info

[@SeanBaker]

The car knows when to use the engine and when not to use the engine. It's very frustrating, as I often think that the engine shouldn't be on in certain situations. Depending on how long the car has been on, how many miles you've driven the car in the current session, or the battery warmth, the engine will come on when it wants to. You won't be able to pulse and glide every time you want to, but you should be able to do it the majority of the time you want to. I have an '09 Prius, and it really annoys me when the engine is on when I don't think it should be on. 😂

[@Jeo-What]

On most HEV without heat pump (usually only on some PHEV or EV), the engine needs to keep the battery charged while keeping itself warm for normal operation instantaneously in all conditions ;therefore, whenever the battery fuel level dips below the minimal programed level or whenever the ICE (Internal combustion engine aka gas/diesel engine) dips below the normal preset operations temperature the ICE will always kicks in to fulfill the needs.

[@nosretep1960]

I do pulse-glide-coast. 24 Corolla Cross AWD hybrid getting 85+mpg @70% ev. Humourous the miles to empty has to reset at least 3x per tank, mpg display is ALWAYS WRONG 25% to low😂

[@ClassyJohn]

you explained this way better than a certain UK video i watched... Are you putting your vehicle in eco or normal mode while doing this technique? Or does that not matter?

[@carswithsonduren]

Eco is slightly better of course on engine timing but it really is negligible.

[@arslanmalik151]

How much do you save gas . While using pulse and glide

[@carswithsonduren]

Between 5 to 10% is what I am getting.

[@arslanmalik151]

I'm from the US . My state gets around 3.50 . And was almost 5 dollars in 2022 when Russia .I know The politician wants us to move to electric cars .But for another 10 years -12 years hybrid is still a better choice

[@ronaldbobeck7377]

nx350h regular 87 vs premium 91 mpgs. Please do a comparison.

[@carswithsonduren]

No difference in my experience

[@shawn1869]

Being a hybrid, do you notice that the car slows down a bit faster than a non hybrid car. When you let off the gas, the hybrid slows down much faster than a non hybrid especially on the highway. Is this normal character for hybrids?

[@Jeo-What]

It is because the regenerative brake is always on (some vehicle has option to turn it off) when the acceleration paddle is not press to regenerate the vehicle's battery pack.

[@ffotograffydd]

“You want to drive safely…” says the guy who spent most of the video not even touching the steering wheel. Also, this boomerang effect is what causes heavy traffic, a few people doing this is going to cause traffic jams which means you and everyone else on the road will actually use more fuel. Just put your car in eco mode and let your car’s computer manage your fuel consumption, it’s smarter than most drivers.

[@Christian-of1tz]

Is Pulse and Glide more effective than just use the cruise control? I usually just set the speed and let the car do its thing.

[@carswithsonduren]

Yes it is for city driving

[@Christian-of1tz]

@@carswithsonduren thanks for your answer. It is better for city driving, cruise control or manual pulse and glide?

[@carswithsonduren]

@Christian-of1tz manual pulse glide :)

[@xavierroads8971]

how do you drive the car without the car being on ?

[@SeanBaker]

The car is on. When he takes his foot off the gas pedal, the gasoline engine turns off, but the car is still rolling forward. When he gently presses his foot back on the gas pedal, the electric engine takes over to keep the car moving forward for a while.

[@Jeo-What]

I have seen Hypermillers doing so but usually in hypermiling competitions as it is a very dangerous practice since all the electric components are turned off including the power steering, power breaks and all the hydraulic system of the vehicle.

[@stephanypasnin1474]

What does pulse mean, accelerate?

[@SeanBaker]

Yes. It means accelerating up to the speed limit or just slightly over it.

[@phalisatumblin1249]

​. Do you take your foot off the pedal after you pulse?

[@SeanBaker]

@@phalisatumblin1249 yes, and then you slightly push the pedal again, and you should be on battery only for a while.

[@ky314]

I can’t do this. Dynamic cruise control is the way to go for me on the highway. If toyota would update cruise control to do pulse and glide, that would be great and I’d do it.

[@Jeo-What]

I have a KIA 6-speed DCT hybrid and I find the cruise control uses ~1.5-2 MPG more fuel than when how I hypermiling manually on my daily 100KM country rout at up to 90KM/h speed so I stopped using it and my MPG increases.

[@91karol]

in fact "pulse and glide" is increasing fuel economy in classic engines as well... you have really high fuel consumption for a little amount of time and then maintain the speed with low RPMs ;)

[@ax4178]

My 17 Year Old Toyota Yaris 1 Litre engine gets 4.8 L / 100 km. Why bother?

[@arachosia]

My problem with this is that it's hard to maintain speed without the engine turning on. I'll keep trying though

[@carswithsonduren]

You will find the right balance of throttle to maximize it!

[@arachosia]

@@carswithsonduren thanks. Ok, I got it down now. Got 66 mpg coming home rather than the usual 46. Thanks for the tutorial!

[@carswithsonduren]

@arachosia that’s awesome wow. 😮

[@jerrysimeone]

At times I can see how the technic works but sometimes the engine stays on even going down a non steep hill. What does this mean when the engine stays on for longer than expected? I m new to the world of hybrids. Only one week now. The total miles driven seems to match the miles to empty and I don’t think it’s suppose to work like that correct? Thanks for your info…

[@JEY74]

In my mountainous country it is not so efficient.😆

[@Jeo-What]

Thank you sharing your experience. Which method is effective in the mountainous area for HEV in your experience?

[@JEY74]

@@Jeo-What Hello friend, definitely power mode, more torque with less throttle

[@mikej238]

I'll try it tommorow when I pick up my Rav 4 Hybrid Ltd in Windchill Pearl....because after a year the only thing Lexus could deliver was two price increases ..no NX350H 😂 😂...ahhh fck it I'm saving 8500 and 350 a year in insurance. Plus I have more bells 😂 Then a NX350H Signature with Premium Package.

[@carswithsonduren]

Damn man well the Rav 4 is still awesome :)

[@donaldbanner2185]

@@carswithsonduren Rav 4 is a nice Dependable vehicle............HOWREVER it is not even in the same league as it is MUCH more noisy...(not nearly as insulated) the infotainment system is NOT EVEN Close to the Lexus!

[@carswithsonduren]

Very true definitely a lot of reason to go with the Lexus even tho they have the same technical bones.

[@mikej238]

@@donaldbanner2185 you can only wait so long for a car. It's been a year still with no dealer allocation. My 18 year old Honda needs an update. Yes a Rav 4 is not a Lexus but I have had both on order for the same length of time I was told 6 months for the Lexus and 12 months for the R4. .....Well Lexus FAILED. And I'm in Canada where the NX350H is made ! .. I honestly believe the dealer did not want to order my Lexus as I didn't order the higher option package. Plus changing the model year from a 23 to a 24 just to jack the price again .....was the final kick in the groin

[@dominicfong6341]

THE #1 FUEL-SAVING TIP FOR LEXUS & TOYOTA HYBRIDS is leaving it in the driveway.

[@rredding]

12% fuel reduction.. Nice, but having to drive pulsating all the time?

[@OntarioBearHunter]

Youre starting to tread into the " high mileage per gallon" Prius owner club territory bragging..lmao

[@carswithsonduren]

let’s say I’m just gently massaging that line 😂 times are tough!

[@OntarioBearHunter]

@Cars with Sonduren know the feeling.. haven't driven the truck since fall because I haven't had to.. in city it averages 20l.. jeep is a bit better at 15.. once salt is gone the wife's Velar should do 10 in city.

[@mnktb5873]

10 second thing explained in 10 minutes... Watch if you really have time...

[@bassheart365]

Useless on the freeway