You know Pescara was dangerous to drive when Enzo Ferrari, a guy known for replacing passed away drivers in a heartbeat, refused to let his drivers race here.
@plazasta4 жыл бұрын
wasn't the reason to protest something happening in Italy at the time? I don't think it was related to how dangerous the track was, I heard that was just a myth
@afoxwithahat78464 жыл бұрын
He'd rather do this because he knew peoples would surely die in his cars again
@welch12844 жыл бұрын
Lol i live near Pescara
@GTsunnyD4 жыл бұрын
What was he supposed to do? Not replace a deceased driver?
@codyjarvis4 жыл бұрын
GT Sunny D the point was the coldness behind it and the fact he made no attempt to improve safety
@Larry3 жыл бұрын
Love the use of the PS1 Formula 1 games to show older tracks! Quite fascinating they're more a historical description nowadays.
@caprakiwi62013 жыл бұрын
Hello you, love your content.
@ComputerBladet3 жыл бұрын
Wonder if there are games that let us drive modern cars on these circuits
@Myrvold3 жыл бұрын
@@ComputerBladet rFactor 1 have quite a lot of these odd tracks. Might be the closest you can get. Assetto Corsa, while having a great modding scene, doesn't have the amount of obscurity as rF1 has.
@gopher65323 жыл бұрын
@@ComputerBladet There are! Assetto Corsa has mods where you can do it
@drifter4023 жыл бұрын
I don't know why they don't just put old tracks in the games. Perhaps it would give the Devs too much to do.
@brunocarneiro1074 жыл бұрын
"Curiously", the Nordschleife was entirely man-made? As opposed to, what... Naturally occurring racing circuits?
@brunocarneiro1074 жыл бұрын
@@kuckoo9036 Yeah, I got the idea. I was just taking the piss
@yeanisch4 жыл бұрын
"And over there, you can see a wild racing circuit in his natural habitat"
@mrblackpill49774 жыл бұрын
WRC: let me introduce myself
@thomasroth844 жыл бұрын
The Nurburgring lies in a weak economic area of Germany and it's construction was a government program to get people into employment
@skyscall4 жыл бұрын
Naturally-occuring racing circuits? Sounds like Baja
@ClemensAlive4 жыл бұрын
The straights Avus is now the main enterance by highway to Berlin :) You can even see the old stands next to it.
@Leon-pb4nt4 жыл бұрын
Wusste nicht, dass du F1 Fan bist. 👀
@SirUnleashedFTW4 жыл бұрын
Main entrance ? Berlin has 6 Autobah-Connections, is it the most used ? I would like to know
@IguitarVreakI4 жыл бұрын
@@SirUnleashedFTW One of the most important german Autobahn, the "A2", which connects west and east germany leads into the Berliner Ring "A10" . If you drive to Berlin from anywhere west of Berlin there's a good chance you'll take this route and come by the old Avus track.
@felixw194 жыл бұрын
@@Leon-pb4nt naja er hat mal ein Lets Play zu Motorsport Manager gemacht
@michi86524 жыл бұрын
Clemens? Hätte nicht gedacht dass ich dich hier wiedersehe haha
@vatsaldvora4 жыл бұрын
The Old Hockenheim was also pretty challenging
@Kale0504 жыл бұрын
they ruined hockenheim
@felid.7694 жыл бұрын
It wasn't. Almost flat out for all the track and only a couple of chicanes in the fast section, the current configuration is harder, more technical and produces better racing.
@andymb6014 жыл бұрын
@@Kale050 I agree, but there wasn't much choice unfortunately
@jbernfinger54944 жыл бұрын
@@felid.769 sooo does it make it also an almost oval as well? I mean the old version
@TheSt10924 жыл бұрын
@@felid.769 Wrong! People only say that because any overtakes in the forest were often unseen by spectators It wasn't the best for spectators but the racing was always competitive and when it rained it got really fun because the plethora of trees in the forest meant the track often would get fully wet even in heavy rain . The stadium section was also a challenge when teams ran lower downforce wings with drivers fighting the car to keep the car on track in qualifying.
@elsaerika37644 жыл бұрын
I live in Pescara, we do still have a whole street named after the Formula One Grand Prix. It's called "Via del Circuito" -
@gigadonis86844 жыл бұрын
"The final two uses of the oval were primarily used to help Ferrari win" O, how the tables have turned
@Tommy2shoe8114 жыл бұрын
Katsuki Bakugou Oh those days will be back eventually, guaranteed. F1 was bending over backwards for Ferrari up until about 10yrs ago. Since the new ownership took over Ferrari has been constantly pushing the limits and its backfired causing the them to not have the greatest relationship well if Ferrari continues to not be able to manipulate they’ll start doing their usually deal where they threaten to leave which could cause the new owners to appease them (tho I doubt it bc in America it’s always been viewed as distasteful how much Ferrari has gotten away with and with their “favoritism” treatment by always being the beneficiary of F1’s corruption).
@stevenrobinson37254 жыл бұрын
Just like how party modes have just been banned when ferrari have a rubbish engine and are now struggling to keep up. Ferrari International Aid strikes again
@jeremyj.56874 жыл бұрын
Nice catch, this one :D
@aaker2564 жыл бұрын
@@Tommy2shoe811 oh yeah, its the fia who has an eye for ferrari, definitely not ferraris management or staff that has limited them, and they wont threaten to leave the sport because its in their dna.
@aaker2564 жыл бұрын
@@stevenrobinson3725 they were banned to see if they could slow mercedes. try looking at their pace for once, and youll know what i mean.
@tIhIngan3 жыл бұрын
I am glad to see Monaco on the list. Everybody seems afraid to step out of line and criticize the sheer lunacy of Monaco as a modern GP.
@TheInkPitOx2 жыл бұрын
I've seen plenty of people on Reddit asking F1 to drop it.
@Joe_Okey2 жыл бұрын
It has always been my favorite Grand Prix on the schedule. I would hate to see it go, but it would be very doubtful that they would ever drop it from the schedule.
@TheInkPitOx2 жыл бұрын
@@Joe_Okey I am sorry, but I found your second sentence confusing.
@Joe_Okey2 жыл бұрын
@@TheInkPitOx I meant that if they ever dropped it from the schedule, I would be unhappy about it. Also, I doubt whether they ever would remove it as it has become such a huge part of F1 racing now.
@TheInkPitOx2 жыл бұрын
@@Joe_Okey Ok
@oswaldopantojarodrigues57214 жыл бұрын
AVUS is a Nice track...2 drs zones and 1 hairpin...perfect for overtakes
@robertgoraieb98384 жыл бұрын
In other words, more merc domination 😂😂
@beckettloose4 жыл бұрын
And Ferrari would probably be all the way at the back and out of DRS range of any cars in front by the time DRS is enabled
@fedlyn90534 жыл бұрын
the amount of smoke that will be blown from the engines could be more dangerous than covid-19
@bakedalaskax4 жыл бұрын
Ferrari with the cheaty engine probably would have loved that place 😅🤣😂
@wissamsaade33234 жыл бұрын
Lol
@EvryTime4 жыл бұрын
I am pleased that Monaco was on the list. And the quote of "Like riding a bicycle around my apartment." Seems very fitting.
@gregmiller71233 жыл бұрын
I was there at the 1984 Dallas Grand Prix and it was a train wreck! As mentioned, the track was coming apart but they were also having to weld down drains and manhole covers after they came up. Doing something outdoors in Dallas in July is never a pleasant experience and even as a resident it was hotter than Hades that weekend. But my strongest memory was watching Nigel Mansell getting out of his car and trying to push it across the finish line before collapsing from heat exhaustion!
@TxGambler772 жыл бұрын
I've lived in DFW my entire life. I am 44 and have vague memories of seeing the advertisements for the race. For the longest time, i thought it went through downtown, but driving the areas today that were used as part of the circuit are baffling knowing all the potholes that are there!
@phouleSk8s4 жыл бұрын
I actually really like the idea of combined monza. I think it would be an awesome track for modern f1. Nothing like actually going flat out for 30 or so laps.
@elkano24304 жыл бұрын
Never forget the Montjuic circuit in Barcelona. A relatively short track built on a mountain, like a fast Monaco but steep as hell.
@SiVlog19894 жыл бұрын
It felt like I was one of the few who liked the Valencia Street Track. Using the old Fish Market buildings for the pit and paddock complex was imaginative, the swing Bridge was something that got engineers thinking about the transition from one section to another and the third sector (where the drivers were confronted with seemingly ever faster curves inches away from the buildings surrounding it) was great to watch. In one of the GP2 races in 2008, two of the championship contenders that year, Giorgio Pantano and Bruno Senna, ran out of fuel in the run up to the finish
@vyasponnuri33754 жыл бұрын
Nah you ain't the only one, it's actually a good track
@SiVlog19894 жыл бұрын
@@vyasponnuri3375 what's your favourite part of the layout?
@vyasponnuri33754 жыл бұрын
@@SiVlog1989 actually the whole track
@memphisdaniels32182 жыл бұрын
Yeah I liked it too
@henryhallam52709 ай бұрын
In my opinion it creates some of the best racing that there is.
@eliastooicey4 жыл бұрын
There was a Santiago GP in 1950, the circuit layout was a triangle, but wasn´t a race for the championships points.
@taufiqutomo4 жыл бұрын
Virgin F1 strange circuits: An oval A circuit with a petrol station Circuits with ugly layouts A car park Overly long circuits Chad Indycar strange circuits A Circuit that go over railway crossings A hillclimb An airport An oval with right hand turn Explicitly ignoring COTA track limits And, both series did race on a circuit that goes through a baseball stadium.
@botigamer90114 жыл бұрын
The modern Mexico track goes through a former baseball stadium, so in behalf of all Mexicans.... Dude, uncool
@gamerageandhobbyrcdu4 жыл бұрын
When did Indycar use a hillclimb
@taufiqutomo4 жыл бұрын
@@gamerageandhobbyrcdu Back in the 60s they ran non-championship races at the Pikes Peak hillclimb.
@botigamer90114 жыл бұрын
@@gamerageandhobbyrcdu that sounds like an absolute nightmare
@st12204 жыл бұрын
@@botigamer9011 oversimplifed reference
@EpicToastie4 жыл бұрын
Was it only me that LOVED Valencia??? Especially in the F1 games
@touhouslvt4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, valencia was awesome
@loord6174 жыл бұрын
European GP was awseome
@CostanTheOne4 жыл бұрын
No
@RaldoBot4 жыл бұрын
I mean I Guess it’s just ok it feels a little forgettable
@kaMosGO4 жыл бұрын
The races, except the one Fernando won, were very boring. To drive on a circuit on which you cant overtake with cars which are very difficult to overtake with, is just dumb
@gordonicus46372 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree that Monaco is a weird track, especially today, where the cars struggle to even turn around some of the bends...
@klobiforpresident22542 жыл бұрын
They grow up so fast.
@terryjacob81693 ай бұрын
That's because todays cars are crap. Historic F1s from the 1960s/1970s always put on a great show at Monaco, with plenty of passing.
@gordonicus46373 ай бұрын
@@terryjacob8169 Of course. Not sure it's still suitable today though...
@whassupg894 жыл бұрын
Love the PS1 footage
@AJZulu4 жыл бұрын
I know the game. the EXACT one.
@jorge85964 жыл бұрын
@@Catcrumbs probably F1 94 if it exists
@peterdaviesracing4 жыл бұрын
@@jorge8596 You mean Psygnosis' first F1 game? It was only called that and released in 1996, but featured the 1995 season.
@LouisTheSEGANerd4 жыл бұрын
@@Catcrumbs it was 'formula 1' by psygnosis on ps1. It was from the 1995 season but the canada track modifications were still in place that year...
@LouisTheSEGANerd4 жыл бұрын
@@jorge8596 they were showing 'formula 1' by psygnosis on the PS1 which is from the 1995 season although Geoff Crammond Grand Prix 2 on PC follows the 1994 season...
@VodkaHellstorm4 жыл бұрын
Monaco is still one of my top 5 tracks on the calendar. I wish we could have smaller cars that could compete a bit more around there, but I love the layout, the visual of cars flying around the circuit, and I enjoy that there's at least one track on the calendar that isn't dominated by who has the best engine, and where your pit stops really do mean something.
@VodkaHellstorm4 жыл бұрын
@Gary Garratt There is a spectacle to the whole weekend that I hope we never lose, as well as a storied history that in my opinion, is worth returning to every year for that alone. It clearly still means something to the drivers too, if Danny Ric's Monaco Crusade is anything to go by.
@todortodorov9402 жыл бұрын
Monaco is lifting F1 racing from just driving a car on an asfalt track to giving the race a beauty, a soul and a human touch.
@biketheperson69192 жыл бұрын
Formula E cars around there are really cool to watch. Certainly more exciting than F1
@VodkaHellstorm2 жыл бұрын
@@biketheperson6919 Yeah the FE race there at the full circuit was fuckin pure fire.
@JesseLeeHumphry2 жыл бұрын
If the track was wider, I would agree with this idea. As it stands, qualifying is a substitute for race day, in most cases, and the majority of the overtaking happens during the pit cycle. Azerbaijan is a much better road circuit imo because there's still a few decent places to overtake that aren't on the straights, and it doesn't feel like you're trying to rotate the car while standing still.
@LesGrosPiedsDeDeejay4 жыл бұрын
No Charade ? That track was mad it was on a mountain there were volcanics gravels everywhere and it was nearly 11km long
@KyleP1334 жыл бұрын
You must have gotten lost, they said weird tracks, not freaking amazing tracks. :D
@stenovitz4 жыл бұрын
The historic Charade was 8K. The modern Charade is just below 4K, but still a heck of fun to drive.
@sampo16284 жыл бұрын
Montjuic as well
@malibuu6664 жыл бұрын
bremgarten
@remiicario4 жыл бұрын
No wonder people call it “The French Nurburgring”.
@LS460Driver4 жыл бұрын
I miss Mosport, now called Canadian Tire Motorsports Park... I live 20 minutes away and would love to see it live!
@VaporpireWinkleschmidt3 жыл бұрын
There will never ne an F1 race there again, but I'd love to see IndyCar go there. Can't be more dangerous than a street circuit.
@simon06744 жыл бұрын
I miss the old Hockenheim. blasting through the forest
@peterdaviesracing4 жыл бұрын
@dein Pech mein Glueck You mean... pre-broadcast times?
@wissamsaade33234 жыл бұрын
Same
@elkano24304 жыл бұрын
I don't think you'd miss it anymore if you got to see what a race there today would look like.
@Ariespradana134 жыл бұрын
Old Hockenhein require : 20% Driving Skill 80% Engine Power/Reliability
@peterdaviesracing4 жыл бұрын
@dein Pech mein Glueck That's why I asked if you mean pre-broadcast. Because by the time the races were shown on TV, there were tv cameras around the track and the race shown on big screens. So unless the grandstand at the first chicane(I think the only grandstand for spectators in the forest) didn't have one, you could see everything happening.
@PescaraProductions4 жыл бұрын
Pescara made the Nordschliefe look like the Brands Hatch Indy layout
@1mariomaniac4 жыл бұрын
I believe WTF1 said something similar, something along the lines of "Pescara is so insane that it makes the Nordschleife look like Shanghai!"
@23GreyFox3 жыл бұрын
That's why it's gone for good.
@mortenfrosthansen842 жыл бұрын
Brands Hatch has claimed more fatal crashes, then most of tracks of today's season. With 56 fatalities, during races.. Spa (which was a embarrassing show this year) is also high on the list. As is Monza..
@GARBO964 жыл бұрын
I would love to have that configuration of Monza in almost any racing game that shit looks fire
@FullOilBarrel4 жыл бұрын
Assetto Corsa has it
@missedtheapexracing37874 жыл бұрын
And project cars 2
@redking82744 жыл бұрын
Project cars 2 has it as well
@missedtheapexracing37874 жыл бұрын
@@redking8274 I said that lol
@jasonkent36584 жыл бұрын
BList Asseto corza it's on there
@StudioVRM4 жыл бұрын
Good point about Monaco. Just because we're used to a huge party followed by a crash strewn parade a narrow coastal road, it doesn't make it any less strange on a modern F1 calendar.
@jiggmin12344 жыл бұрын
Well, even though we have yet to race there I would say the Vietnam street circuit is a bizare circuit to look at when viewing the map.
@ryanfrancis54234 жыл бұрын
Yes yes. Truly weird track.
@w3ghe7114 жыл бұрын
I freaking hate that track in F1 2020
@David_Theisen4 жыл бұрын
The proposed newer track in Miami looks wildly different to say the least!! wonder what the drivers will think of it
@SteveKemper3 жыл бұрын
Valencia! I miss that track, actually. Still vividly remember Alonso's win in 2012 & Weber's huge aerial crash in 2010.
@oswaldopantojarodrigues57214 жыл бұрын
Monza combined is perfect to be used by a test track
@Arthurzeiro4 жыл бұрын
That banking at high speeds would shake the cars apart.
@ramiabouchakra27264 жыл бұрын
*Indi 2005 flashbacks*
@nuhomusic93434 жыл бұрын
@@Arthurzeiro Pirelli need to up their game
@vect9r4 жыл бұрын
well it certainly is fun to drive in a sim, that's for sure
@remiicario4 жыл бұрын
ArthurAlcantara they need to fix the banking to make that suitable. If they fixed that, maybe we’ll also see Indycar at Monza one day.
@harveybritland31123 жыл бұрын
I quite enjoyed Valencia tbf, it was good fun to race on in the old f1 2009 game
@hecksters4234 жыл бұрын
7:31 *Meanwhile, from a shed in the middle of the English rural areas* "Hey guys, Sheddie Irvine here."
@mattpotter87254 жыл бұрын
Except Eddie Irvine isn't English!!!
@malthuswasright4 жыл бұрын
@@mattpotter8725 He didn't say Eddie. He said Sheddie. Who IS English.
@belagajdan4 жыл бұрын
I understood that referrance
@galarianmike2834 жыл бұрын
I almost knew someone would mention the shed boi
@4plus4equalsmoo4 жыл бұрын
shack villeneuve
@mattheworvillefirdauzi50464 жыл бұрын
Today’s Ferrari would lap Avus slower than cars did in the 50s
@georgethomson27974 жыл бұрын
Yeah I mean p-17
@cyclonicleo4 жыл бұрын
yikes, savage!
@vandecayear104 жыл бұрын
Lucky there was no crowd at monza today... Would have been a riot.
@flashpeter6254 жыл бұрын
You are joking, but in the late 1930's streamliners were passing each other at 380km/h on Avus, and no one knows what their top speed in slipstream was, because they could only measure speed by timing a section of the track.
@Pilsnor4 жыл бұрын
That just make it even funnier, but i hope Ferrari gets well soon.
@alchemysticwitch4 жыл бұрын
I think Avus is the weirdest one
@avus-kw2f2134 жыл бұрын
NO AVUS is the best TRACK in the world all circuit should be based off it
@StuckInnerRut4 жыл бұрын
Miami's proposed F1 track seems to have taken some inspiration from it. Viet Nam also.
@thomas3163 жыл бұрын
Racing went on until the late 1990s.
@shoukonya42573 жыл бұрын
avus kinda looks like luigi's circuit from mario kart :P
@juliana.lymond26222 жыл бұрын
@@shoukonya4257 Yeah It Kind Looks Like Luigi's Circuit From Mario Kart 64.
@emmata984 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Broadbend did that in a Sim. Modern F1 car at the Nordschleife. He beat his time set by the 919 Evo with DRS on the back straight.
@LonMoer4 жыл бұрын
The high banks on the old Monza oval is very steep, probably 70*+ at the top. Impossible to stand on without holding onto the Armco barrier.
@mariusbagd4 жыл бұрын
I think you missed the old Spa circuit. Amazingly fast and dangerous.
@hansgrueber81694 жыл бұрын
and long, 15 km.
@missouriresole47263 жыл бұрын
Still the best track
@jacobmulder39603 жыл бұрын
The remark about the sharp left turn at Eau Rouge, that was mentioned as "Used only once", was not entirely correct. In the pre-WWII layout (30's) the cars would make a sharp left turn at Eau Rouge to go up to 'L'Ancienne Douane' (a hairpin turn that is still there) and then further up to Kemmel straight. ;)
@Jt71664 жыл бұрын
I know it wasn't a popular race, but I absolutely loved Valencia Street Circuit. One of my favorites to drive in the sim too.
@BOABModels3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading that the development of cars far outstripped the development of tracks - therefore by the 1970s accidents were common on circuits which were too narrow or twisty such as Watkins glen or the Nordschlife.
@magiclapras3 жыл бұрын
Case in point, Monaco.
@Strudlfaust4 жыл бұрын
01:57 Dallas didn't preceed Detroit, as that had happened already over two years prior. And it was also the preceding GP only two weeks prior to Dallas
@Midaspl4 жыл бұрын
7:01 a guy in the background holding a tree from falling.
@Rosario_Verano4 жыл бұрын
Avus and Monza on steroids need to come back. Slipstream fests are a proven recipe in today's F1.
@Roi8Arachnide4 жыл бұрын
renault's dream
@adammee32834 жыл бұрын
Ferrari’s nightmare
@Blueflag044 жыл бұрын
Haas nightmare
@michiadams4 жыл бұрын
Avus doesn't exist anymore, they stopped racing there after a death in Dtm in the 90's
@derLenno4 жыл бұрын
@@michiadams AVUS still is one of the main motorways to get into the South of Berlin. It's a simple, straight 10km road. The banking is gone, but it's still very much usable. Source: I've been on the AVUS every day I drove to university.
@andym91763 жыл бұрын
Would LOVE to see that monza track again, looks amazing
@ianvincent50694 жыл бұрын
Valencia wouldn't have been nearly as weird if there wasn't a perfectly good circuit in valencia that they ignored
@aaryanramesh77613 жыл бұрын
Ricardo Tomo is a great circuit
@elr86914 жыл бұрын
I live near Dallas, now, and I could not imagine squeezing in an F1 race these days, there's way too many people in this area. It's a shame because that track looked like an exciting layout.
@danericardo61484 жыл бұрын
3:58 Those 1994 changes really ruined Estoril 😬
@AlonsoRules4 жыл бұрын
That chicane was actually built for the bikes a year earlier but no-one talks about that
@npc3101774 жыл бұрын
Most of the changes to tracks forced by the FIA after Senna & Ratzenbergers deaths ruined tracks. Tamburello didnt need a chicane, it needed a gravel trap and a tyre wall. Same goes for the 2nd to last corner at Barcelona. Those temporary tyre chicanes were a knee jerk reaction, but one that was understandable at the time.
@n4s1173 жыл бұрын
@@npc310177 Isn't the issue with Tamburello that there's nowhere to extend the run-off - unless you want to end up in the river.
@yahow92973 жыл бұрын
@@npc310177 Tamburello obviously needed a chicane, no question there.
@emileportejoie28624 жыл бұрын
Circuit de Charade in France was very dangerous too ! A part of the GP was on the road, very close to cliffs.
@lucasisover90004 жыл бұрын
The old monaco configuration is even more silly, they actually had a ramp on the circut lmao
@skyscall4 жыл бұрын
And cars could literally fall straight into the harbor
@deeznoots62414 жыл бұрын
The old Spa circuit had a high speed kink between two houses so if drivers crashed there they would likely kill several people.
@WalintHUN4 жыл бұрын
@@skyscall theres still a point where in case rescuers in scuba gear standby there
@drifter4023 жыл бұрын
And he didn't mention that?
@spunkwinkle2 жыл бұрын
And one year a number of cars were literally knocked out of the race when a large wave broke on the circuit and made it too wet!
@SolidSonicTH3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for including Monaco. Most famous race in F1 yet is the literal opposite of the kind of track you'd put these cars on.
@magiclapras3 жыл бұрын
I swear the only reason it's still on the calendar is because of it's history.
@coronasdelaurel4 жыл бұрын
The Dallas GP didn't precede the Detroit one. Detroit was in the calendar from 1982 to 1988.
@someguy54874 жыл бұрын
And both were a disgrace to f1
@redlightning23224 жыл бұрын
If they had used the Belle Isle Circuit that Indy use itd be pretty good
@mattpotter87254 жыл бұрын
@@someguy5487 And let's not even mention Phoenix!!!
@RandomCarl054 жыл бұрын
Basically all USA street circuits for F1 from 1981-1991 (except Long Beach) were trash (Said someone who likes Phoenix lol)
@JeromeG19564 жыл бұрын
And I'd love to see Monza restored to using that banked oval again.
@ferdypl3222 жыл бұрын
They use it in WRC
@dimitris.44842 жыл бұрын
They still use it but for some motorsport shows and tourists.
@AustrianGamingHD4 жыл бұрын
I really loved the Valencian Circuit. Fast and unique corners/parts Just recently played F1 2012 to race this track 😅💪🏻
@jacksonlam28774 жыл бұрын
At least there were overtakes at Valencia...
@mustang61724 жыл бұрын
I don't recall any.
@stephenhirsch85212 жыл бұрын
For me one of the strangest was the old configuration of Spa until they shortened it to the track we know and love today
@orsomethingorno4 жыл бұрын
When it comes to "Almost ovals" the Caesar's Palace track should get a further mention for the configuration used by Indycars for a couple of years after F1 left, bypassing the infield sections to create a layout of essentially 5 or 6 left handers
@xibilfc214 жыл бұрын
An argument could also be made for the Old Hockenheim. It was a unique beast and while the redesigned circuit is good in its own right, it has absolutely no character and soul when compared to the old one. The old circuit stood out because it was unique. It could be raining at one end and completely dry at the other. And tackling the stadium section with no downforce created a difficult and unique challenge out of what was otherwise (or better- what has become) a generic and boring set of corners. The Korean circuit which Formula 1 raced on around a decade ago was also weird. It never looked like the finished product and it was weird watching Formula 1 cars. the most technologically advanced cars in the world, race on a patched-up circuit in the heart of a swamp.
@Rocky712_4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the old Hockenheimring was definitely unique, but it never got really good racing. Most of the track is basically flat out with 2-3 chicanes just to make unnatural overtake opportunities. The new layout in my eyes does not just only provide better racing in general, it is actually much harder to master it with much more corners. Also, I am not sure if the aspect with "It can rain on one side and be dry on the other side" is really a good one. Yes, it is definitely more likely than on a compressed circuit, but even then: Is it not a bit sad that most races at a track like that only got exciting because of the rain? I am not sure. Rain in general makes more interesting racing, not just at the old Hockenheimring. The Southkorean GP is actually quite a nice track. It feels a bit weird to be honest with three big straights literally in a row and then this huge and hard 2nd and 3rd sector where you cannot really overtake without a 2-3 second time advantage, but it actually has quite a nice flow. Also, the races there were quite likely to have weird weather, because of the geographics. It´s interesting and decent, but also a bit awkward. I am not sure If I would put into the Top 10 though.
@jwork56804 жыл бұрын
Ur mad the old Hockenheim is nothing special its just a super long dragstrip, the newer one has more characteristics and soul
@xibilfc214 жыл бұрын
@@Rocky712_ Regarding the Korean GP, we're in total agreement. Regarding Old Hockenheim, I think one needs to look at it in the context of other circuits on the calendar to truly appreciate its uniqueness. Whether one loved its layout or not, one cannot argue that it wasn't a unique challenge. For the F1 calendar in general, having these curve-ball circuits is a good thing. It mixes up the pack too. For example cars which usually did not do well because they had bad downforce but in turn had a powerful engine, used to look forward to Hockenheim as they often scored valuable points there.
@TeemoQuinton4 жыл бұрын
@@jwork5680 Get out of here Tilke!
@jwork56804 жыл бұрын
@@TeemoQuinton lol nice joke
@spectacularspaghetti18494 жыл бұрын
I personally really liked Valencia tbh, espcially in games
@pexeq3 жыл бұрын
Sakhir has instantly become one of my favorite tracks, I hope it will make a return some day.
@youngboo65783 жыл бұрын
same
@nickkarion2 жыл бұрын
It's still there, you mean the endurance version?
@pexeq2 жыл бұрын
@@nickkarion Sakhir GP, a variation of the Bahrain Circuit. 3.5km track length with lap times of under a minute. Was not in 2021 calendar.
@nickkarion2 жыл бұрын
Oh, the oval one, I doubt it will come back but it gave us a memorable race, if only Russell wasn't knocked out by his own pit crew
@eddyb15964 жыл бұрын
Monaco is absolutely insane in an awesome sort've way. Having the fastest racing cars in the world flying around the right streets of a crowded city is so crazy. Vegas just makes so much sense in a 1980s Las Vegas sort've way.
@awordabout...30613 жыл бұрын
Everyone has to go there one day, it must be staggering to be there in person watching the cars fly by at nearly two hundred miles an hour down the main straight...
@FormulaJason4 жыл бұрын
My Dad actually worked at the Dallas Grand Prix as a volunteer and ended up with Ferrari for the weekend. Either Friday or Saturday he drove his brand new Honda Interceptor 500 into the pits. When he came back to get his bike and go home for the day, René Arnoux was looking at his bike and asked him if he could take his bike on a lap. My Dad said sure and Arnoux took it around the course twice, came back around and asked my Dad to do a lap. My dad did and said he was pretty nervous doing so, because he wasn't really supposed to be out on the track, but he got a lap in and wasn't caught!
@davidwilson16914 жыл бұрын
Absolutely bang on with regard to Monaco. We accept it as a part of the modern calendar that although exciting in its own way, does not promote great racing. The idea of someone trying to get Monaco sanctioned as a race venue today sounds like something from an absurd sketch show.
@n4s1173 жыл бұрын
The sponsors like it and that's why it's still there.
@russell21653 жыл бұрын
absolutely, david. a track where the race is mostly won in qualifying makes very little sense.
@RJSRdg3 жыл бұрын
@@russell2165 Though it is possible to overtake at Monaco - as there were a number of overtakes in this year's Historic and Formula E races. However modern F1 cars have really become too wide. The addition of the swimming pool section, the Nouvelle Chicane and the sharpening of Ste Devote probably don't help much either.
@longshot76013 жыл бұрын
I miss the old Long Beach street circuit. The turn on to Pine must have been breathtaking.
@istvankrizsanyik4 жыл бұрын
9:26 wrong! The Monza Rally Show still uses the bankings in every year.
@mgustafson20103 жыл бұрын
I actually liked the 2020 Sakhir layout it was weird but the overtakes were plenty and the pace was incredibly fast
@Blueflag044 жыл бұрын
What about Paul Ricard? The track that can hurt your eyes
@kaMosGO4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the design of the Astroturf is very odd ^^ But i actually quite like the circuit, its unfortunate it has produced only boring races so far.
@kuttispielt78014 жыл бұрын
kaMos *CS:GO* I think it would be a great circuit if it had some kerbs and some grass
@astrovisionbroadcastingunion4 жыл бұрын
The thing is that Paul Ricard is actually a great track. But they ruined it by replacing the grass and the gravel by more concrete with flashy sticky rubbons... it got absolutly ruined. It's like putting these terrible things at Monza...
@deeznoots62414 жыл бұрын
Its a testing track and should have stayed a testing track, as a race track its awful
@xavierrodriguez24634 жыл бұрын
I like the look of paul ricard's runoff
@thomaslloyd40204 жыл бұрын
the Zeltweg airfield circuit should be included, L shaped 4 turn course
@J4FTobinator4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I loved Valencia for the Circuit itself and the great athmosphere
@mackenziek83832 жыл бұрын
The banking at Avus and Monza is so cool. Just played Mafia 1 and it's so obvious they took inspiration from those tracks for their racing track. Love that mission, even if it's hard as hell.
@nachodinos34 жыл бұрын
This videos add years to my life. Thx therace
@redthezz4 жыл бұрын
The old Spa circuit. Intriguing, yet weird... especially when the old Stavelot corner had an upgrade to make it a lot faster
@djmustang0003 жыл бұрын
I loved the almost oval we got with Bahrein, we need more speed centric tracks.
@easyadventurer4 жыл бұрын
“Curiously, the Nurburgring was man made” nah, thought we stumbled across a bitumen circuit one day mate 😂
@rubeng33 жыл бұрын
The scenes
@Billiamiscool4 жыл бұрын
I think the Zeltweg Air Base track deserved a mention
@ReinhardP3 жыл бұрын
Narrow, bumpy, L-shaped, no stands for the spectators. Should have been on the list imho.
@samdekker903 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of the old Monza layout - a kind of hybrid between traditional course and American oval. Imagine if they could modernise it, with a proper barrier separating the two lanes on the main straight, and an Indy/Nascar style barrier and catch fence on the oval section. Nothing like it will ever happen, but we can dream.
@Anoano3 жыл бұрын
Even after the safety concern, the practical problem with the circuit crossing over itself in de driving direction is that it results in way too many right corners, especially with the old Ascari. The circuit in the video has 6 very long right turns and only 1 left kink. It would be near impossible with the modern tyres to race there due to wear.
@xRestart4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for calling the outer track “inaccurately described as oval” since its similarity to an oval is the same as the similarities between Grosjean and Hamilton
@StaySqueezy124 жыл бұрын
For real. No banking, tight turns, definitely not an oval.
@jeremymenchaca3 жыл бұрын
It's more like Pocono Speedway. Pocono is also called the tricky triangle. And now I want to see an F1 race there.
@GowGows2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremymenchaca Pocono is an actual oval tho (tri oval but still)
@MOTO8093 жыл бұрын
Cote d'Azur was a nemesis of mine in the GT series. Glad it made this 10 weirdest compilation.
@dingodave894 жыл бұрын
I must be one of the rare people who prefer the endurance layout of the Bahrain track. It actually seems to challenge the talents and abilities of the grid unlike most tracks.
@barney1724 жыл бұрын
It's more challenging, but the problem was that overtaking was not promoted through that configuration, so many spectators found it to boring. For me it's not the best track i've ever seen and i like the normal layout more, but still i find it more interresting than tracks like Abu Dhabi or Sochi
@THENAMEISQUICKMAN3 жыл бұрын
It's definitely more a track for exciting qualifying than exciting racing.
@sinnedsinister2 жыл бұрын
Monocco is still my favorite f1 race and I've been watching it for over 35 years
@josderbos95714 жыл бұрын
Argentina 1995-98 could also be another, effectively Monaco without the houses
@SantiJovi4 жыл бұрын
That layout was designed by Juan Manuel Fangio.
@Sem56264 жыл бұрын
really? i loved that track
@AlonsoRules4 жыл бұрын
that track was a joke
@SantiJovi4 жыл бұрын
@@Sem5626 Apparently Fangio had a predilection for twisted circuits and he designed that part of the track back in the 50's when it was built.
@SantiJovi4 жыл бұрын
@@AlonsoRules Unfortunately the contract for the new era of the Argentinean Grand Prix was signed a few months after Senna's death back in 1994. The original idea was to use the same layout used during the 70's with the two long back straights around the lake but the FIA forced the promoters to use this small twisted layout for safety reasons.
@xander10523 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the rather odd Korea International Circuit, which was designed to have a city built around it and be partially temporary.
@ganjabobby4 жыл бұрын
Video doesn’t mention the time Nick Heidfeld did around the Nurburgring in the F1 car in 2007, but did mention the 5:19 that the Porsche did in 2019. The F1 did it in 5:57 (technically).
@AKStovall4 жыл бұрын
Heidfeld wasn't going full tilt. open that F1 car up and the fastest lap record of today wouldn't have ever been set... with the downforce and lateral g capabilities of an F1 car would have put the heidfled lap into the sub 5 minute range... even in 2007.
@Alex-cw3rz3 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest problem I find with the Dallas one is I would have never known that was a normal street, making it's setting utterly pointless.
@Octolicia4 жыл бұрын
4:23 : The infamous pif-paf. ^^
@__MARKR__4 жыл бұрын
Nice! In addition to the NordSchleife, perhaps worth mentioning it was also featured in the WSeries Esports League of 2020.
@illusion86ln4 жыл бұрын
I loved Valencia in the F1 2012 game!
@barryboor64163 жыл бұрын
Interesting programme, but, Tony Brooks won at AVUS in a Ferrari, not a Vanwall.
@KenRacing4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video and I enjoyed it. When you re-visit the Las Vegas track on 1:07 this is so punishing for drivers and you have to go over this track under a crazy hot summer season with that dangerous monster... And Monza banking is such a twisted idea... Thank you for the nice video.
@stefanpatejak31043 жыл бұрын
Las Vegas was a high speed autocross.
@stonexl4 жыл бұрын
The Monza oval needs to be restored and used again by something.
@WalintHUN4 жыл бұрын
its very old structure, i would only plant there flowers... better to build a new track than restore that, probably cheaper too
@AgentH8voc3 жыл бұрын
Monza rally use the bankings if I remember correctly
@fishingthelist40173 жыл бұрын
@@AgentH8voc I think they drive on the apron for the rally for one lap.
@pavarottiaardvark34314 жыл бұрын
The most surprising thing about the short Sakhir lap is that the other repeat circuits on the calendar this year DIDN'T tweak their layout to change the racing.
@rick.054 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one thinking Valencia was actually good? It had overtake possibilities, but the drivers weren't trying to overtake
@cornevangulik61664 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t that great.
@barney1724 жыл бұрын
It had a nice layout. I think the problem was, that in one year there were zero overtakes throughout the Grand Prix and that Ricardo Tormo is not to far away, which made the streetcircuit idea pointless
@Garvm4 жыл бұрын
The problem was that the politicians who made this circuit were not re-elected, after taking our money with the excuse of America’s cup, F1 circuit and a lot of other stupid things.
@AlonsoRules4 жыл бұрын
There were no overtakes in the 2009 race!
@michelolphe-galliard4603 жыл бұрын
Charade circuit which was used in 1965, 1969, 1970 and 1972 was quite particular too.
@TOFKAS014 жыл бұрын
5:45 In fact, I would love to see at least one F1 race on such a track. At least one real High-Speed-race should be added to the calender after decades of characterless-tracks made by Hermann Tilke.
@stonebrick-uc4ns4 жыл бұрын
one track that also comes to my mind is the Bremgarten-Rundstrecke, near Berne in Switzerland, which hosted f1 races from 1950 to 1954 and was known as the grand prix of switzerland.
@supreemmdb23 жыл бұрын
Grand Prix of Denver was interesting too.
@JJStonnerr4 жыл бұрын
Another interesting fact about the Dallas GP and Ayrton Senna, from a Dallas local. The track had issues with the concrete barriers shifting closer into the track throughout the weekend, due to the poor build quality. At one point during qualifying, if I remember correctly, Senna was able to tell that one of the barriers in the corner was off by only 3cm exactly. He told his team, team told the stewards, they went out to check it, and the barrier was, as Senna exactly said, 3cm off from when they first placed it before the GP weekend.
@RJSRdg3 жыл бұрын
IIRC he hit the barrier and damaged his car, and said that the barrier must have moved as he was driving exactly the same line on every lap. At first the team didn't believe him, but he was so insistent that they went out and measured it and found he was correct!
@JJStonnerr3 жыл бұрын
@@RJSRdg That’s exactly how I originally heard it
@hauptsachepuls10804 жыл бұрын
Still racing in Monaco makes it the weirdest track by distance.
@alecbrown664 жыл бұрын
The most bizzare circuit config has to go to the original X shaped Silverstone of the 1930's! An X shape where at certain points cars would drive on the back half directly towards those heading off uthe start straight, only for the 2 ends of the track coming together at hairpins, protected by a few metres and a couple of rows of hay bales! Ah, the good old days of an iconic founder circuit.
@ianfindlay8653 жыл бұрын
Definite typo. Silverstone could not possibly have existed in the 1930's. 1950's. But absolutely correct as to track configuration.
@coatknight4 жыл бұрын
They need to bring back that Monza layout without the banking.
@MikuFan39313 жыл бұрын
Man... I miss the old Avus track. I know it didn’t have many turns. But still, a great place.
@dandiehm84144 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a repaved and more safe version of the Monza circuit. Get rid of the chicanes! And they were all right hand turns!
@raggeragnar4 жыл бұрын
I think you covered them all. Weird circuits , that is. I can’t think of anyone left out. Cool video.
@theredguy87464 жыл бұрын
Here's my idea of an unusual feature for an F1 track. I would take inspiration of the stadium section in Mexico and have the one part of the track that is best for overtaking in the middle of a stadium as the Mexico GP stadium section doesn't really offer an overtaking opportunity. Imagine the noise generated by fans when they see close racing and crashes!
@JackRabbitSlim3 жыл бұрын
I think the closest example to that is the hairpin at the Circuit de Gille Villeneuve, which is a great spot to witness overtaking and has the stands arrayed out around the outside of it. It's not exactly a stadium feature and the stands could be closer but I get what you're saying. Mexico missed an opportunity with that stadium section, it's just so bad for overtaking in that area that it rather spoils it as a fan experience.
@craigcampbell85602 жыл бұрын
While Monaco may be absurd, it is also arguably the most iconic race circuit in the world. It is the one circuit that F1 can't, nor ever should drop from the schedule.