The 13th Doctor isn't the Doctor! //B-WHERE

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@SamKrahl
@SamKrahl 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting and well-argued. Just a nitpick: Twelve spent 27 years on Darillium with River Song... I'd hardly call that a-sexual!
@BWHERE
@BWHERE 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that they didn't even kiss at the end of the episode, with someone as sexual as River, implies to me that 12 just doesn't swing that way. Plus when Missy kissed him, he basically had a panic attack. But obviously it's up to interpretation.
@rosemarypaul6093
@rosemarypaul6093 4 жыл бұрын
I believe it was 24 years. But yeah, but for all we know they could have just played canasta or something. Just think, (gee, no matter what I say next is NOT going to sound erotic but), of him going rigid or standing firm, when Clara swooped on him at the end of Deep Breath and he did the same when Missy locked her Hoover lips on him in Dark Water. But, looking at his behavior after River Song, he became easier to touch. I believe Clara had something to do with that as he gladly accepted her hug at the end of "The Woman Who Lived". Although that look he gave Clara after the hug broke my heart. It was like he knew she was going to leave him soon.
@TGM_Productions
@TGM_Productions 4 жыл бұрын
I subbed B-WHERE. 👁‍🗨
@daveshrum1749
@daveshrum1749 4 жыл бұрын
@@rosemarypaul6093 I don't believe that was because 12 was asexual. As he said after he just regenerated he's not a hugger. And in real life a lot of people are not comfortable even kissing in public. At least romantically sexually. No it all comes down to the writing sucking.
@rosemarypaul6093
@rosemarypaul6093 4 жыл бұрын
@@daveshrum1749 thanks for the tip. Recently I've been hearing more and more terms on sexuality than I've knew to exist let alone heard in my life. The terms themselves are confusing, thus confusing me even more. Example, on a TED talk about how you are "never too old to be a-Woke" (what age has to do with that is beyond me as well), I heard a strange term, asexual-heterosexual. Um, OK. I understand each one separately, but together as a a description of a person, blew my mind. Maybe I am getting too old for the new "Woke Folks"
@cluracan1130
@cluracan1130 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Smith portrayed more age and wisdom with his eyes than Jodie Whittaker has with everything. I know she can act, so I have to blame the writers and directors. It's frustrating.
@BWHERE
@BWHERE 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! It's the fact that there's real potential here being squandered - that's what's so infuriating about series 11!
@NerdGirlUK
@NerdGirlUK 4 жыл бұрын
I remember Matt's look of menace when he said "basically, run" at the end of his speech to Atraxi at the end of The Eleventh Hour. That look was amazing.
@OpenMawProductions
@OpenMawProductions 4 жыл бұрын
@@NerdGirlUK When he's sitting next to Amy's bed at the end of the series, talking about stealing the blue box. Just how exhausted and old he looks. Young 26 year old Matt Smith, yet so very ancient. Same when he says "Hello" to the TARDIS. When she dissappears and it cuts back to him, he's holding his hands and sniffling, and you can see the ancient being inside. Or David Tennant, near the end of his run when he, so very down in himself, says "Live too long..."
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears 4 жыл бұрын
His Old man / young man osmosis was more successful than Davison could possibly manage (apologies on that Peter, you were still gr8 in your own way).
@OpenMawProductions
@OpenMawProductions 4 жыл бұрын
@angelo pellegrino That's not how criticism works. Don't be an idiot.
@Vidyut_Gore
@Vidyut_Gore 2 жыл бұрын
Big part of the problem, in my view is something most people don't touch upon. Jodie seems to have brought the Broadchurch modern mom with her. Near identical haircut, side parting, same length, similar necklines... (same costume designer too, who took her inputs for costume again). That role had her shutting down on emotions a lot. Same showrunner. She didn't watch previous Doctors and apparently Chris liked it like that. She basically took too long to get into the character and still doesn't seem to have fully settled into it. She doesn't know the basic things about the Doctor that say... David Tennant or Peter Capaldi did as long time fans. Or any other fans. The haunting awareness of the loss of Gallifrey that never fully goes away and will come up when situations trigger it. It doesn't haunt her because she hasn't immersed in the story beond the scripts and backgrounds provided. Someone should have told her to imagine Danny died on Gallifrey. Much criticism has happened of shows, but a simple example is in one of her interviews answering fan questions. Someone asks her if the Doctor has a bedroom on the TARDIS. She was sure there was a bedroom, but most fans would remember the newly regenerated Peter's unforgettable scene from his first episode where he is perplexed by the idea of a room to be asleep in. Getting into character is a nuanced thing and not watching previous Doctors turned her into an IGNORANT Doctor. One too arrogant to learn from white men or cater to the white male gaze or something I suppose. She simply lacks awareness of FACTS. Her interpretation of the Doctor as a hesitant person seeking the affection/approval of companions is bizarre. Every Doctor has actively asked companions - it is literally modus operandi. Usually with the temptation of adventure, but Peter Capaldi did it by sharing vulnerability and a need for Clara's presence and support. She portrays an insecure modern woman seeking the inclusion/approval of colleagues (in her own TARDIS! - It doesn't get more doormat than that), she's an alien who has been with amazing people over and over and will, again and again, no matter how this question gets answered - she's got this. But she didn't know that. And that hesitation is everywhere. She simply doesn't plunge into challenge and take charge and fails to impact situations as the Doctor does and stands there chattering to her fam about what is going on what she will do... and shuts up when it comes to emotional connect (or worse is uncaring). She ends up doing less, because she's talking about what's going on, analyzing it, what she will do.... Chris Eccleston - grabs Rose's hand "Run". Run first explanation later. BOOM, just like that. Show is revived. David Tennant starts talking - oh, new teeth... "Barcelona" "Merry Christmas" defeat tree, wake up, disarm villain, figure out situation, reunite with companions, disable first threat, challenge villain, suffer loss of hand, but look it regenerates... to win the day "I'm that sort of a man". And he freaking slept for most of that episode! Matt Smith figuring out what food he likes, investigating Amelia's crack in the wall, taking TARDIS out on a test run and returning after 12 years to a completely new dynamic with Amy, but same villain and a situation out of control triggered by their changed dynamic. wins the day, recalls fleeing alien to threaten and dismiss again Peter Capaldi's amusing word salad, then confusions, then off on his own investigating dinosaur murder before he's fully coherent.... They DID shit. There was energy and it was so charismatic, I didn't need to look up the details to compare. They didn't need to explain what was going on. They handled it and provided any explanations needed after they were needed. Many things didn't need explanations. Even the Doctor's tendency to engage in or avoid romance seems steeped in pain avoidance rather than asexuality. As he tells Rose, he can't spend his life with her. The curse of the Time Lords. He is able to let loose with River in ways he couldn't with Rose, yet the first place he thought to leave his human clone was with her, because he would age and die with her. Various doctors have shown affection or flirted to various degrees, but committing to another person was either a historic accident or with someone he could be with for a long time. Jodie looks like she'll either fall for Yaz or "Bury your gays" her with last series already over and just specials left. Much as the writing is bad, Jodie DID NOT DO HER HOMEWORK.
@katarinabrunk8698
@katarinabrunk8698 2 жыл бұрын
ngl I love this rant so much
@420luvsounds
@420luvsounds Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏💪💥🎶💃
@charles3840
@charles3840 Жыл бұрын
Actors can sometimes redeem bad writing. The writing may still be bad, but they sometimes have a shot at making a character rise out of the muck of the writing. That, of course, requires research.
@KeltoiMagus
@KeltoiMagus 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that the problem is writing this Doctor, not Whitaker
@bjnz
@bjnz 4 жыл бұрын
She isn't well casted anyways and too much of a coincidence that she worked closely with Chibnall on his previous main show.
@brycehampton8315
@brycehampton8315 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Jones I read somewhere that’s not a coincidence. He picked her BECAUSE they worked together before
@bjnz
@bjnz 4 жыл бұрын
@@brycehampton8315 ...in a completely different show. Exactly the problem
@HmineCrafter
@HmineCrafter 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjnz yea apparently from what i have read Chibnall went into casting being 100% certain for a female doctor and preferably Whitaker this is where the isssue lies for me nobody should go into doing something to deliberately change up the normal with no shed of logical reasoning. this has left the show dry as he is way to focused on making the show as modern and inclusive as possible and doesn't really care for making doctor who
@Azaleus19
@Azaleus19 4 жыл бұрын
I hate both Chibnall and Whitaker equally and with a very intense passion.
@SpockBorg5
@SpockBorg5 4 жыл бұрын
First time I'm actually rooting for the daleks.
@cja5612
@cja5612 4 жыл бұрын
hopefully the daleks kill the doctor mid-regeneration
@mariamarkus5617
@mariamarkus5617 4 жыл бұрын
Remz 04 I can’t believe what I’m about to say but ...yes me too
@caterain424
@caterain424 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same. I was hopiing she dies in every episode. Hahaha. I couldn't like her even watching 6th episode. I had to stop after. Could not like her at all. I'm a woman and I can't like her. Expressions are blah and she rambles. Makes me want to slap her wen she rambles. So annoying. Anyway why can't they just make another character who is similar to the Doctor but not take over his character.
@Qwerky_Qwerty
@Qwerky_Qwerty 3 жыл бұрын
Yea..
@willwh9228
@willwh9228 3 жыл бұрын
It's sad that i fully agree with you
@Grimlock1975
@Grimlock1975 4 жыл бұрын
The fall from Peter to Jodie was massive to me, I only saw a few episodes of season 11 but it had nothing for me. There just seems there is nothing to her as a doctor or the companions. With the previous doctors there was something about them, a unique thing that made me want to know more. I hope she does well but I'll pass until the next regeneration :(
@BWHERE
@BWHERE 4 жыл бұрын
No spoilers, but in series 12 they're attempting to make her more interesting by introducing new lore about Gallifrey. Unfortunately, they didn't do anything to make 13 herself actually unique or compelling. Quite disappointing, really.
@bjnz
@bjnz 4 жыл бұрын
@@BWHERE "new lore about Gallifrey"... they destroyed it 😶
@jolteoonalt
@jolteoonalt 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjnz yup :(
@nathanielmalikgan5527
@nathanielmalikgan5527 4 жыл бұрын
Give season 12 a try anyway its not perfect but it started out pretty ok.
@emilythezeldafan848
@emilythezeldafan848 4 жыл бұрын
same here engelbert humptydunk (your channel name made me laugh)
@markgraham5731
@markgraham5731 4 жыл бұрын
I've been re-watching the older series recently, trying put my finger on what has been lost. I think you've basically nailed it. Last night I watched Donna loosing all her memories of the adventures she's had and it was heartbreaking. Even one off characters in past series have more substantial development and are more engaging than the "Fam." I haven't hated every episode of series 11 and 12 , but the thing is, if the Dr lost a single companion, or all of them, I just wouldn't care. Nor would I care if the Doctor regenerated, the show basically needs better writers.
@laytonspuzzle
@laytonspuzzle 4 жыл бұрын
You know, after seeing how Series 12 ended, I really wish they stuck with the whole "no mentions of the Doctor's past or Gallifrey" thing
@DemonicRemption
@DemonicRemption 4 жыл бұрын
@Bobbeguile That and The decision of a black female incarnation in "Fugitive of Judoon," based on reviews I've seen told me Chibnall has no idea what he's doing. Those choices were reactionary to justify making the Doctor a woman. As a writer myself(You can read one of my published works here: www.aphelion-webzine.com/shorts/2019/04/MyBrothersKeeper.html?fbclid=IwAR0lOlt9bLb_iQ2-PB6OH_22tDzT7G0SV4S_neIFBbXI7fn1OSIkm9Kbtm8 ) I understand that if you're going to write a female character, or any character really, you need an archetype as a foundation then to build on that archetype. This is why Jodie's incarnation failed because they didn't decide what kind of archetype her doctor should have. No these idiots did the lazy thing, just plopped a woman on screen told us that's we're getting and called it a day... So when fans called'em out on it, they felt the need to justify their decision hence the bullcrap you sat through...
@MS-nb2zg
@MS-nb2zg 4 жыл бұрын
Day of the doctor was pretty cool tho
@jolteoonalt
@jolteoonalt 4 жыл бұрын
@@MS-nb2zg I almost dont want there to be another crossover like that in Doctor Who's current state.. the writing is too bad honestly
@MS-nb2zg
@MS-nb2zg 4 жыл бұрын
Christian Bard yeah not in it’s current state but before it was pretty cool
@abigailxmary
@abigailxmary 3 жыл бұрын
@@DemonicRemption hang on, what’s wrong with a black female being cast??? that sounds a bit dodgy...
@dragoscilvio
@dragoscilvio 4 жыл бұрын
The only way they can fix this show is by starting a new season with a different doctor waking up from his regeneration screaming and saying the past two seasons were a horrible nightmare....
@autumnmatthews3179
@autumnmatthews3179 4 жыл бұрын
dragoscilvio a different writer too
@randallwhitehead686
@randallwhitehead686 4 жыл бұрын
The past two seasons should actually be the Doctor in a coma from actually smacking into the ground at the end of Twice Upon A Time. The next season starts with Jodi waking up in a hospital surrounded with confused people and her doctors are the peopel she's been traveling with in the coma. A whole new team of writers are brought in, and we sweep the past two seasons under a rug right next to the Absorbaloff episode.
@DisKorruptd
@DisKorruptd 4 жыл бұрын
They might be able to salvage Jodie, but they'll need a new team of writers,
@emilythezeldafan848
@emilythezeldafan848 4 жыл бұрын
agreed
@DoctorAlex1
@DoctorAlex1 4 жыл бұрын
Done it 😉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHnXgphno9x8r68
@chaliceohearts4658
@chaliceohearts4658 4 жыл бұрын
And thus, I decided that the entirety of the “13th Doctor’s” era is bad fanfiction.
@MegaNumberXIII
@MegaNumberXIII 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it even qualifies as that to be honest. Even bad fanfiction somewhat feels like the show it's based on.
@deathsheir2035
@deathsheir2035 4 жыл бұрын
I think you owe an apology to bad fan-fiction every where. That is one insult I will not let slide.
@adampartridge8360
@adampartridge8360 4 жыл бұрын
@@MegaNumberXIII Chris chibnall used to be a fan before a writer which just makes it an utterly garbage fanfic
@MegaNumberXIII
@MegaNumberXIII 4 жыл бұрын
@@adampartridge8360 He was a fan? I would have never been able to tell given his utter disregard for lore, continuity, and the character as a whole. XD
@adampartridge8360
@adampartridge8360 4 жыл бұрын
@@MegaNumberXIII yeah i know.. he even went on the bbc in the past and i think he was complaining about one of the writers back then and then he fucks it up like this now
@aworldofpureimagination914
@aworldofpureimagination914 4 жыл бұрын
The show just has no resemblance to it's previous self, including even the worst episodes of the Moffat era. The 13th Doctor has come nowhere near to any speech or moment made memorable by the previous doctors, and Chibnall now destroying Gallifrey again is unforgivable.
@ShamrockParticle
@ShamrockParticle 4 жыл бұрын
It isn't surprising. The Doctor being flung out of the TARDIS was pretty much a copy of Tennant's finale too. Only Smith clung on the edge. Chibnall just let the show drop like a hot potato.
@iLikeSlushees
@iLikeSlushees 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@orionishi6737
@orionishi6737 4 жыл бұрын
It's the writers faults.
@themostbritishpersonalive868
@themostbritishpersonalive868 4 жыл бұрын
Are you even British the show changes as much as it's main cast does
@emycakes8663
@emycakes8663 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like doctor who has reversed. It started with a good story, with good writing for poor cgi, now it’s amazing cgi with awful writing.
@NOWtheband
@NOWtheband 3 жыл бұрын
Understood: The CGI in 1963 was appalling! ;-)
@dummyyyyy6439
@dummyyyyy6439 3 жыл бұрын
@@NOWtheband I think he meant when the series came back
@NOWtheband
@NOWtheband 3 жыл бұрын
@@dummyyyyy6439 - I know. My reply to her was based entirely within the form of humour and the High Art of Sarcasmic "Wit", hence the ;-) ;-)
@judgemario
@judgemario 4 жыл бұрын
I felt like Bill's reason for travelling with the Doctor was similar to Rose's, actually. Bill hates her job and her life with her adoptive guardian, and travelling with the Doctor takes her away from that.
@onvasean2485
@onvasean2485 4 жыл бұрын
Bill does not hate her life, bill actively trying to learn even went as far to work in a canteen just to get the chance of going to a lecture And the doctor is drawn to her because of she take curiosity in everything she smile at everything she don't understand Yes she did say it is the most exciting thing to ever happen to her because it is space travel
@judgemario
@judgemario 4 жыл бұрын
@@onvasean2485 She actually says in her first episode that her adventure with the Doctor is the "only" exciting thing that's ever happened to her and begs to keep the memory so she can have some good dreams for once. That doesn't sound awesome.
@onvasean2485
@onvasean2485 4 жыл бұрын
@@judgemario her life is dull does not mean she hate her life. It just mean there is nothing exciting going on, and she ask the doctor to let her keep her memory and just that she did not want another trip because she know it is impossible to actually travel with him
@judgemario
@judgemario 4 жыл бұрын
@@onvasean2485 I don't think Bill likes her life very much pre-Doctor. I don't think Rose did either. You are under no obligation to agree.
@onvasean2485
@onvasean2485 4 жыл бұрын
@@judgemario maybe I am bias, there is the thing about tv show we can have our own interpretation on different thing, it is nice to get another perspective
@kennethsanderson442
@kennethsanderson442 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that the First Doctor basically kidnapped Ian & Barbara in the first episode, and it took a while for them to warm up to him. Even then, they were still often trying to get him to return them back home.
@Andy-xi4pu
@Andy-xi4pu 4 жыл бұрын
If we get rid of Chibnall, we’ll be fine. In season 11, he wasn’t trying at all. In season 12, he was trying too hard. How long will we have to go through his shit writing?
@nillsthefunexpert2571
@nillsthefunexpert2571 4 жыл бұрын
i'm not sure how to feel about the timeless child stuff ...
@brianl8481
@brianl8481 4 жыл бұрын
Jodie and Chibnall seem to be attached at the hip when it comes to the show, so Chibnall goes and Jodie follows.
@silkworm2595
@silkworm2595 4 жыл бұрын
He has talent, but simply can't work on this scale or schedule.
@brianl8481
@brianl8481 4 жыл бұрын
@@silkworm2595 He's good a minisodes, like P.S., he sucks at regular length episodes.
@ProfTricky3168
@ProfTricky3168 3 жыл бұрын
From what I heard about season 12, it sound like every episode was building up to the finally and that hype was the only saving grace from being another S11. Just for it all to crash and burn in the timeless child.
@rosemarypaul6093
@rosemarypaul6093 4 жыл бұрын
Even the graphics and music soundtrack is boring. There's no excitement when I hear the show start. The best graphics and soundtrack in my opinion was 12's, especially the one with the electric guitar in it. It clearly said that this was a different doctor, a space hobo haunted by his past, the ones he loved and lost and trying to teach the pudding head humans and aliens through his own experiences that there is a better way. The 11th Doctor and the 12th Doctor both gave emotional and absolutely heartbreaking speeches on loss and the stupidity of war. Who could ever forget 12's anti-war speech in the "Zygon Inversion"? "When you fire that 1st shot you have no idea how many people are going to die. How many children will scream and burn. How many lives will be shattered how many hearts will be broken until everybody does what they should have done from the beginning, SIT DOWN AND TALK!" Or 11's speech to the big sun alien in Akhaten? Chibnall just doesn't know how to write emotion. You want to write a story so good that people will stop what they're doing to watch it. I had not found a story like that since 13 started in the role. There was such a huge change her 1st season, the soundtrack, the graphics, the Doctor, not just the regeneration, but the sex of the Doctor and the head writer/show runner. Maybe it was too much at one time, but most of us could have looked past that if the storytelling and characters had engaged us instead of making us feel we were watching something other than Doctor Who. Can Chibnall turn this around? I don't know. I agree that the show had fallen flat before and came back. I just hope it won't take another 15 year cancellation period?
@godhathirumalaianandanpill3140
@godhathirumalaianandanpill3140 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like a good motivation for Ryan would be the fact that the Doctor has a time machine- he could use it to bring Grace back, but he has to win the Doctor's trust to do so. His character arc could be him learning to get over Grace's death and to accept Graham as his grandpa
@raconbacon5649
@raconbacon5649 3 жыл бұрын
Then there could be a scene where the doctor explains about fixed points in time and how they shouldnt be changed. This could also seems like ryan is trying to use the doctor in a way, which could be interesting and give him some form of an arc. This also gives 13 a scene thats serious and where she could upset ryan. This also links back to previous doctors when referencing the "no changing events" thing. Mainly 9 and 10 here. 2 birds 1 stone. (Wont fix everything but still helps)
@AmazingKevinWClark
@AmazingKevinWClark 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that 13 says the companions are her 'fam' demonstrates everything wrong with the writing for the doctor. The nuance and character of the doctor is gone. The doctor always ends up walking out on the companions and moving on because of his/her's past. The doctor has to keep moving. For someone who says they know the show, Chibnal sure has screwed up some fundamental principles.
@JontyLevine
@JontyLevine 4 жыл бұрын
8:10 "There's never any mention of Gallifrey or running from her past." After the complete fiasco that was The Timeless Children, I wish it could have stayed that way.
@kennedylehane6562
@kennedylehane6562 4 жыл бұрын
“The Woman Who Fell to Earth” and “It Takes You Away” did show us some type of regret from her past. “It Takes You Away” especially capitalized on it. I believe what you are getting at is the lack of the regrets communicated to the companions. The Doctor always shared their regrets with the companions solidifying their friendship; even in the classic series before the Time War. That is my reason why it feels fake, the companions know nothing about the Doctor. They know she had a family with a bunch of grandmothers but that is all. The companions not knowing anything worked with the First Doctor because Ian, Barbara, Polly, and Ben were accidental travelers who wanted to go home. Vicki, Steven, and Sara had just got out of traumatic situations and needed to find places to stay with situations that needed solutions. Katarina and Dodo were lackluster companions because they blindly trusted the Doctor. Blind trust is what kills me with the current companions. Katarina and Dodo were the only other companions to blindly trust the Doctor and that lead to Katarina’s death and Dodo’s mind control. The companions do not necessarily need a reason to travel with the Doctor but they definitely need reasons to trust the Doctor. These three have none and the Doctor has actually given them reasons why they should not trust her. Let us go back in time to Romana. In her first incarnation, she neither trusted him nor took him seriously. She never considered staying with him after their mission was over until he showed her that he would rather fail the mission than let an innocent person die. When she regenerated we saw that she was comfortable traveling and trusting him. That is how I measure the Doctor. I cannot say I see Romana traveling or trusting Thirteen. In fact, I cannot see any other companion doing that; not even Susan.
@pjbaby66
@pjbaby66 4 жыл бұрын
Doctor Who does not exist as a series anymore in my mind. Perhaps another group of writers can fix the mess they have made.
@vashna3799
@vashna3799 4 жыл бұрын
The most damning and critically correct analysis of The Doctor and her 3 two dimensional companions. Pearl , although not the greatest companion, had more personality than those 4 combined.
@brianmcdonnell6758
@brianmcdonnell6758 4 жыл бұрын
I can remember John Pertwee, as the Doctor, telling Sara-Jane that the Time Lords can only regenerate 11 times. After the 11th regeneration, a Time Lord is as mortal as anyone else. This being the 13th Doctor, shows how prophetic that episode really was.
@TaliesinapCerridwen
@TaliesinapCerridwen Жыл бұрын
Really? I thought the number limit (12 giving them a total of thirteen lives) was established in the Tom Baker serial The Deadly Assassin.
@gracel8790
@gracel8790 Жыл бұрын
They addressed this at the end of 11's run. He only had a limited number of regenerations, I think 12, and he was going to be the last one, due to 10 regenerating twice technically and the War Doctor. In his regeneration episode, the Time Lords gave him a whole new regeneration cycle. So he got 12 more, of which currently 3 have been used.
@inversegalaxy8320
@inversegalaxy8320 Жыл бұрын
@@gracel8790 They never actually establish that he only got one new cycle, as 12 says in Kill the Moon "I may just go on regenerating forever." Brilliantly open ended and could provide a decent reason in the narrative to take the show off air (god forbid)
@buzzmooney2801
@buzzmooney2801 Жыл бұрын
@Inversegalaxy 83 : Given what they told us in "The Timeless Children", it seems the Time Lords were lying to The Doctor, and that The Doctor may have unlimited regenerations. The 22 regenerations thing may have simply been a bid to continue the lie, until they (Rassilon, I suspect) could come up with a new plan to try to keep the Timeless Child (The Doctor) on a short leash.
@LaloMartins
@LaloMartins 4 жыл бұрын
‘The only saving grace this series had is Graham’ - and yet his primary character motivation was his failure to save Grace (I'll show myself out now)
@matthewduncan8523
@matthewduncan8523 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@danialshamshuddin
@danialshamshuddin 4 жыл бұрын
I’m going to miss Graham.
@dobbythefreeelf6428
@dobbythefreeelf6428 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly half the time I say to myself, "I suppose the 13th doctors series isn't that bad, i'll get through it..." but then even if i think for a moment about the past doctors I start to long for them sooo badly because this is a show i've been watching since I was 5 and it doesn't feel like the same show anymore. I didn't really know what it was that made it different, I was probably thinking at first because she's a woman but I absolutely LOVED Missy and I knew if there was writing like that for the 13th doctor, Jodie Whittaker could totally pull it off. Honestly, thanks for this video, it's really helped me to understand the problems with the writing.
@Killerkriskg
@Killerkriskg 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to modern Western character creation: where 'character', 'personality' and 'unique traits' are optional tick boxes that are always skipped.
@deathsheir2035
@deathsheir2035 4 жыл бұрын
They aren't tick boxes. They are fill in the blanks. Here's Western Character creation in a nutshell now: Character: Female Personality: Female Unique Trait: Female. The only variation of that now is: Character: Black Female Personality: Lesbian Unique Trait: Black Female Lesbian Oh my gosh, look at the variety of character traits, and diversity...
@rosemarypaul6093
@rosemarypaul6093 4 жыл бұрын
I've stopped watching it half way through her 1st season. She has NO emotions, NO personality for her.
@BWHERE
@BWHERE 4 жыл бұрын
You know how many times I had to sit and rewatch her episodes when writing these videos? NOT fun!
@rosemarypaul6093
@rosemarypaul6093 4 жыл бұрын
@@BWHERE You have my deepest sympathy and gratitude for your wonderful video and honest review. I thought I was alone in my opinion. One other thing I noticed about 13's writing is she should be acting more like an 11 yr old that needs a nap but has eaten too much sugar. Hyper but a bit petulant at the same time, especially when things don't go their way. At least that's how I always felt about 10, 11 & 12.
@marvingordon4215
@marvingordon4215 4 жыл бұрын
B-WHERE i thought I remembered hearing that Jodie W didn’t really know anything about the doctor until Chinbal interviewed her for the roll so I believe he knew exactly what he was going to destroy the show pick someone who doesn’t know anything about the show and he can pretty much write whatever he wants because she doesn’t know any better so I don’t completely blame her for this 80% of this is horrible writing
@stevethearbalist572
@stevethearbalist572 4 жыл бұрын
I watched as much as I could of series 11, I would often find myself bored and on my phone throughout the episodes, Doctor Who had never put me in that position before. I made the conscious decision to not watch the series 11 finale, simply due to the fact that I wasn't invested in the series anymore. Before the Chibnall takeover, and subsequent destruction of the show, I wouldn't miss an episode. My eyes were glued to the screen, even now that I'm re-watching older episodes with my fiancee, my eyes are locked, a constant smile on my face. "The Woman Who Fell To Earth" brought the show with her, I just hope she and Chibnall don't kill it completely.
@3wiccan3
@3wiccan3 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevethearbalist572 I completely agree with you.
@SunfishFan68
@SunfishFan68 4 жыл бұрын
Jodie gets WAYYYYYY too much credit, yeah she’s a good actress but she’s never gave a shit about the show and thats just offensive, a bad choice for this role with a hack fraud of a writer in charge
@xXthevenomousXx
@xXthevenomousXx 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. She's not trying her absolute best here, so you can't just say "She's good in other things so its not her fault." Its still partly her fault.
@SunfishFan68
@SunfishFan68 4 жыл бұрын
Thevenomous exactly mate exactly, the excuse ‘shes good in other stuff so its not her fault’ is an exceptionally shit excuse because it just highlights her lackluster performance in Who
@koalafromtomorrow5656
@koalafromtomorrow5656 3 жыл бұрын
It could be river come back to begig the doctor and Missy it csuee they fit with role
@saitama97
@saitama97 3 жыл бұрын
@@SunfishFan68 id like to see you take the shut script she has and be a good doctor with it
@vanillacapricorn
@vanillacapricorn 3 жыл бұрын
@@saitama97 capaldi was also given some rather subpar scripts and still made it entertaining and “doctory”. It’s not impossible to be a good doctor despite the script.
@josephf.4540
@josephf.4540 4 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is she could've been amazing, and my head canon comes up with WAY BETTER solutions and stories then they actually turn out to be. But no, it (the show), and she falls flat. It's sad. I want it to be good. I'll keep watching....I always have.
@DCice13
@DCice13 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing I don't agree with is the fact that you only have 2k subs. Your content is easily worth 2 million.
@BWHERE
@BWHERE 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'd settle for 20k honestly.
@velxerthechaotic6351
@velxerthechaotic6351 4 жыл бұрын
I agree completely
@lcg4936
@lcg4936 4 жыл бұрын
I must say that the title scared me. I'm sick of all the "not my Doctor" stuff. I don't like series 11 very much, and my problem is that it doesn't "taste" like Doctor Who, which is basically what you have perfectly explained . I knew it was going to be difficult because I love Murray Gold, I admire Moffat, and Twelfth became my Doctor (l always thought that was a wrong concept, because my Doctor was The Doctor, but here l am). I am just hoping to recognize The Doctor in series 12, and love her; fingers crossed. Very good work, again.
@BWHERE
@BWHERE 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! If you haven't seen it yet, I recommend you watch my 12th doctor video, I'm guessing it would be right up your alley: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnPCq3p6j9l4has&ab_channel=B-WHERE
@lcg4936
@lcg4936 4 жыл бұрын
@@BWHERE I saw your video months ago. I made a comment , and, you are not going to believe it, I just saw it again today, a couple of hours before your upload. Premonition, may be.
@BWHERE
@BWHERE 4 жыл бұрын
@@lcg4936 Stranger things have happened
@willpiggot2314
@willpiggot2314 4 жыл бұрын
The ONLY way to not ruin the canon is to play of the timeless child arc as a ploy by the master to weaken the resolve of the Doctor.
@SussanRai
@SussanRai 4 жыл бұрын
I will just act like season 11 and season 12 didnt exist at all.
@jesssilver4244
@jesssilver4244 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@oliverrickard9970
@oliverrickard9970 3 жыл бұрын
They arnt doctor who. They are just spoofs
@elatetunic
@elatetunic 3 жыл бұрын
i hope the real fans will take control of the series and make a retcon to fix this shit
@NOWtheband
@NOWtheband 3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, perfect! :-) I do the same but with anything from after the 80's.
@chikowashere
@chikowashere 4 жыл бұрын
Best case scenario they reveal that Jodie's run is just an in-universe television show about the Doctor. Like how Moffat wanted the Peter Cushing Doctor Who films to actually be referenced in the show, but as inaccurate movies about the Doctor from an outsiders perspective.
@jtotheroc
@jtotheroc 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still hoping that Graham turns out to be the true doctor, and Jodie was filling in for him.
@skylergulley3949
@skylergulley3949 4 жыл бұрын
The actors for Graham and Ryan are unfortunately leaving the series so u are stuck with 13 and Yaz
@wardy6224
@wardy6224 4 жыл бұрын
Skyler Gulley oh no lmao rip doctor who
@TokuNorth
@TokuNorth 4 жыл бұрын
@@skylergulley3949 Oh no..here comes all the lesbian posts about that...
@leqingzhang5311
@leqingzhang5311 4 жыл бұрын
I love Jodie and she is my favourite doctor ever and I love the 13th I just really want to talk with whoever wrote these confusing plots and show them a peaceful dance, with my laser shoes.
@BlueStar4040
@BlueStar4040 4 жыл бұрын
Same except she's my 3rd favorite
@lance2580
@lance2580 4 жыл бұрын
Having a Thirteenth Doctor is just a magnet for bad luck.
@wilfredreedman5683
@wilfredreedman5683 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve decided how I want s13 to end... Peter Capaldi wakes up and says “I just had the worst dream”
@caleb7551
@caleb7551 4 жыл бұрын
He then goes off in his TARDIS and meets 9, 10, and 11 for the 60th Anniversary special!
@icesten
@icesten 3 жыл бұрын
...*intro trails in* [After intro] 12: *looks to his side* “oh thank God, Bill, your death was just part of the dream” Bill: “sorry, what!?” BBC MAKE THIS HAPPEN
@Ryusuta
@Ryusuta 4 жыл бұрын
Jodie's Doctor did one very important thing that we need to give credit for, at least. ...It made Colin Baker's Doctor seem absolutely phenomenal by comparison.
@caleb7551
@caleb7551 4 жыл бұрын
At least my 6th incarnation had character and some development
@jonathansim7148
@jonathansim7148 4 жыл бұрын
A well reasoned and well argued critique, rather than just a rant. WELL DONE. Every character in series 11 and series 12 is two dimensional rather than three dimensional. Most lack emotion, some lack souls. Others, like the Doctor herself, seem almost to lack all historical knowledge of themself and where they have been before. They all act like they are cardboard cutouts, not real people.
@abramolandvideo
@abramolandvideo 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard ex-Dr.-Who fans referring to her as Doctor Why.
@zainaslayer5953
@zainaslayer5953 4 жыл бұрын
That's perfect
@johnrutt9558
@johnrutt9558 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard "Doctor WTF?" Or Nurse Who - because she's not a doctor
@W-Lestat
@W-Lestat 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, it reflects everything that I feel with the show right now. The lack of passion with this regeneration is what makes me don't want to sit on my couch in front of the TV every sunday like I used to. I remember run from my work to the cinema to watch the fiftieth anniversary with the whovians in Argentina. Today I feel that they are slowly killing the show. But like you said at the end of your video. Doctor Who will be back and it will better. And just thinking about that gives me hope.
@candoentertainment9118
@candoentertainment9118 4 жыл бұрын
Stick figure that we've named the Doctor. Love that. I'm in agreement, Jodi does not feel like the Doctor. I cannot bring myself to believe that she is playing the same character that Peter Capaldi played, Tom Baker played, Patrick Troughton played etc.
@frankfreeman1553
@frankfreeman1553 4 жыл бұрын
Things to make the 13th doctor era: 1. Flesh out this Doctor 2.Reduce the number of companions 3.Keep on track of the Doctor Who Lore 4.Make her feel like the Doctor
@DoctorRedivivus
@DoctorRedivivus 4 жыл бұрын
An interesting and thoughtful presentation. Jodie and her co-stars are all good actors - they just haven't been given much material worthy of their talents. That being said, there have been some good character moments: Graham's internal conflict in Rosa, when he says "No, no, no, I don't want to be part of this" - he values what Rosa will do, he just doesn't want to be part of the problem she's taking a stand against. I also think the Thirteenth Doctor's heart-to-heart with King James was good - there is a moment where I thought she'd got through to him and he'd release her. I'd be interested in your analysis of Classic Who characters - perhaps a more fruitful and personally rewarding avenue for your obvious talent as a good critic. After all, we have 50+ years of Who that can be viewed and reviewed.
@melindajohnson383
@melindajohnson383 4 жыл бұрын
For each of the preceding Doctors, I have exclaimed, "That's The Doctor! ". And its Always been in the episode where they regenerated. With jodi (not the doctor) I didn't see that in the 1st episode. Or the 2nd, 3rd and so on. For exactly All the reasons stated. I miss the Doctor. How can it be Dr Who without the Doctor?! It has Nothing to do with her gender either. Actually I thought that a woman, with the proper writing, could bring a whole different set of skills to the table. But. Nope. Now we're headed into the 13th season and half the viewers are gone. I'm gone. And it's all because the Doctor never arrived. OMG what a waste! I want to strangle Chibs and the BBC collectively.
@vashna3799
@vashna3799 4 жыл бұрын
Natalie Dormer should have got the role
@sinjun1973
@sinjun1973 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The Doctor seems to have died when Capaldi left the show. I don't care what the regeneration scene appeared to show.
@deathsheir2035
@deathsheir2035 4 жыл бұрын
I don't remember it completely, but I still laugh just thinking about "The Christmas Invasion" Tennant's first episode after taking over as the Doctor (not counting Parting of Ways, as that occurred at the end, and was Christopher's good-bye episode). Matt Smith was good because of his trying to find his favorite food. Capaldi wasn't sealed for me as the Doctor, until Mummy on the Orient Express. Though once Bill became his companion, I couldn't watch it anymore, both the doctor and the companion lost character traits. Doctor started losing character traits before hand, but with Bill, all I know about her is "Black Female Lesbian..." and that's it. Nothing sticks out with her. I tried watching Jodi's doctor... Doctor seriously lost character traits. Her only character trait: Female's are strong and never sad...
@sinjun1973
@sinjun1973 4 жыл бұрын
@@deathsheir2035 Bill just was annoying, even more so than Clara had become, and only seemed to be there to get the Doctor killed. Jodie I tied. I really did but she was never THE DOCTOR. I'm convinced the TARDIS knew she was an imposter and that's why she spit her out!
@raconbacon5649
@raconbacon5649 3 жыл бұрын
@@vashna3799 i dont know what that would have fixed. Jodies not the problem here. She wasnt exactly the best choice given how she hadnt seen the show before starring in it but a different actor wouldnt have fixed many of the other issues. Which were all pretty much writing based
@FlamingRobzilla
@FlamingRobzilla 4 жыл бұрын
If they ever want to bring back Dr Who then it will have to be revealed that the 13th Doctor was never the doctor, but a poser time lord all along.
@custommediacreations
@custommediacreations 3 жыл бұрын
Could be the Valeyard or the Meddling Monk, or even The Dreamlord.
@PrimordialNyx
@PrimordialNyx 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, remember a dude who thought he was the Doctor? What if something like this happened again and the story follows this woman who thinks she's the Doctor?
@martinbennett8752
@martinbennett8752 4 жыл бұрын
There has always been a darker part to the Doctor. In the very first adventure he was prepared to kill a caveman, and his attitude to Ian and Barbara was very hostile. There is a line in Dalek Invasion of Earth where he says “I never take life - except when my own is threatened!” While his experiences softened the character so that he mourned (briefly) the loss of Katarina in the Dalek Master Plan, he was still hard enough that Stephen was arguing with him over the death of Sarah Kingdom, and later after the Massacre of St Bartholomew Stephen was ready to leave because the Doctor was non committal over the women they had met during that adventure who may have been killed: the arrival of Dodo Chaplet was a thin way of suggesting that she survived and Dodo was a distant relative! The second Doctor too could be manipulative - as in Tomb of the Cybermen, something which came back with the McCoy Doctor in Silver Nemesis, where the Doctor destroyed the cyberfleet, and Mat Smith’s Doctor who blew up another fleet just to get their attention. In fact the Doctor was so scary he was the one being the daleks were afraid of! This aspect was less apparent with the third and fourth doctors - Pertwee wanted to make peace with the Silurians and Tom Baker agonised about touching two wires together to end the Daleks forever “do I have that right?” he said. Peter Davidson’s doctor could not find it him to kill Davros - but the death and destruction all around him was enough to make Tegan temporarily leave the Tardis. Let’s not forget that Colin Baker met the Valyard - an amalgamation of the all the dark sides of his own personality, and while Paul McGann’s Doctor refused initially to take any part in the Time War - and opposed the Time Lords, the War Doctor was prepared to use the ultimate weapon to wipe out both sides! We can speculate that the events of the Time War strengthened the dark side of the Doctor: Christopher Eccleston’s doctor was damaged, Tennant raved about his power in Waters Of Mars, and by the time we got to Matt Smith and A Good Man Goes To War we were told that ‘doctor’ in many civilisations meant ‘mighty warrior’. Regeneration may ‘shake up the brain cells a little’, but should not be able to wholly obliterate the underlying personality the way this Doctor is written and portrayed - by an actress who unlike many previous holders of the part, did no research into the role she was to play.
@teabus1619
@teabus1619 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I think you nailed perfectly most of the problems with series 11. The first original team with ian, susan and barbara is a prime example of how engaging a tardis team can be when the character dynamics are well fleshed out and written. I agree with you, everybody from series 11 is just too nice and one dimensional. It also doesnt help that there were no proper story arcs or stakes. Here's to hoping series 12 is slightly better.
@BWHERE
@BWHERE 4 жыл бұрын
Here here!
@ineedmoneysp
@ineedmoneysp 4 жыл бұрын
Doctor Who isn’t going to change at this point. They had there chance to change it this season and decided not too cause they don’t care. They want to push an ideology not make the great show that it use to be. It’s also easier to push an agenda over writing and making great sci fi.
@rboyd3409
@rboyd3409 4 жыл бұрын
13 is just like 5 A poorly defined doctor played by a good actor, too many companions, a budget so big that they don’t know what to do with it, and a hack of a writer in charge.
@ShamrockParticle
@ShamrockParticle 4 жыл бұрын
5 still had more and genuinely exciting adventures and 5 wasn't making dumb jokes or whipping out the magic wand a dozen times each episode too.
@rboyd3409
@rboyd3409 4 жыл бұрын
@J Alexander They’re both boring as shit tho
@rboyd3409
@rboyd3409 4 жыл бұрын
@Simon Leib Jodie is a great actor and the Doctor can be a woman. There hasn’t been any disrespecting of the fans, just boring stories. The only “disrespect” that has occurred was the timeless child twist, and even then that can be retconned. Also please do tell me what does “wokeness” has to do with this.
@rboyd3409
@rboyd3409 4 жыл бұрын
@Simon Leib Have you seen her in literally anything other than Doctor Who? She’s a great actress and she’s doing the best with the material she’s given. Wokeness has nothing to do with this. This is Chibnall being a hack writer. Stop attributing this to social politics and so called “wokeness.”
@rboyd3409
@rboyd3409 4 жыл бұрын
@Simon Leib How? Explain how it obviously sooo woke.
@AnaFolkenstal
@AnaFolkenstal 4 жыл бұрын
Because the fake Doctor and the companions feel like NPCs in games? No background story, no character traits. Just blank canvas.
@sarahjohnson3008
@sarahjohnson3008 3 жыл бұрын
I love Jodie’s Doctor, if I’m going to be honest. I love jodie’s facial expressions and personality for the Doctor. However, series 11 and 12 are not the best. That is not on Jodie Whittaker. That is on the writers, not the actors. The actors are doing their best with what they are given. I stan 13 and I stan the actors. ❤️
@dasbestgirlever
@dasbestgirlever 3 жыл бұрын
I think she is brilliant tooo
@safiremorningstar
@safiremorningstar Жыл бұрын
I really like your analysis it actually says everything that I wanted to say and explains it better than I ever could, because I'm handicapped I use voice to text for everything, that would require me typing cuz I can't do that right now anymore, the way you put it it's perfect, and then had more to do with the fact that chibell didn't give a damn didn't give a damn, it was like he set out to destroy Doctor Who.
@AmandaWolfChild
@AmandaWolfChild 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been begging for this to all turn out to be some weird plan by the master and 13 is really the Doctors daughter and she and Capaldi really just swapped places somehow and the Doctor is trapped somewhere.
@noahthompson2912
@noahthompson2912 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's the doctor's granddaughter , Susan
@sparkymist
@sparkymist 4 жыл бұрын
This show like many other tv/movies are suffering because writers out there forget the golden rule of filmmaking...show don’t tell. I watched a short film here on KZbin last week that was just over 16 minutes long only a few words were said at the start and the rest was silent, was one of the best things I’ve seen in a long while.
@finnstewart4747
@finnstewart4747 4 жыл бұрын
Her being female has never been the issue, and the Ruth Doctor proved that. She showed up and within 10 minutes she WAS the Doctor, she played it brilliantly. Before her I was worried that I would never be able to adjust to a female Doctor, she proved that it can work. There was also a female Doctor in the Unbound audio story "Exile," and though that story was played more comedically, she still felt very Doctory to me.
@haroldwaddell9787
@haroldwaddell9787 4 жыл бұрын
Counter-argument: Ryan loved his Grams, and she loved Graham. She tries to get Ryan to appreciate Graham more before she dies, Ryan mistakes this gesture of attempted good faith as a dying wish to have them work together to grieve properly. Yas, on the other hand, cares about her job, yes, but also has a huge crush on Ryan. As for the Doctor being out of place as the Doctor: I actually think her being another person actually makes a lot of sense. I mean, just look at The Timeless Children. The sudden revelation of her being the original “Time Lord” with unlimited lives greatly conflicts with the end of Matt Smith’s time as the Doctor. He ended up getting a resupply of lives. But, if the Master’s hypothesis is correct, not only would the regenerations shared with the Doctor be unnecessary, but could possibly be rejected by the Doctor’s form because of the fact that the original true Galifreyian had supposedly an infinite number of regenerations. But, hey, that’s just a theory.
@kitsunefirefox1986
@kitsunefirefox1986 4 жыл бұрын
Ponds River Rose & Ravenwood, I remember when Dr Who use to be good.
@samuelbarritt7105
@samuelbarritt7105 4 жыл бұрын
That last part you said about the doctor having two hearts made me cry hardcore, great video ❤
@Kashi-K
@Kashi-K 4 жыл бұрын
Karen took the kids and the Tardis
@BlueSardex
@BlueSardex 4 жыл бұрын
I love your thumbnail for this video. I feel like I'm watching modern Mary poppins instead of Dr. Who
@michaelcarter9395
@michaelcarter9395 4 жыл бұрын
Wow... Your insights were spot on.
@BWHERE
@BWHERE 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate it!
@johnm178
@johnm178 11 ай бұрын
Watching this video post RTD, Tennant, Tate, Ncuti :) I hope your optimism has paid off for you as it did for me! Patience, while ignoring the Chibnall era, has proved beneficial in my opinion. Only live episode I watched of his was power of the doctor because old docs were in it
@gipsonp
@gipsonp 4 жыл бұрын
There is no cohesion with the characters, just a de-evolution of a great series.
@endgamerlvl1
@endgamerlvl1 4 жыл бұрын
Bottom line.....this ...... critiques like this, professionally done, non biased, covering all points. Great job! You put this together amazingly. I only hope they listien at the bbc.
@nemo9540
@nemo9540 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, Graham is the only character in this series that had any emotion at all. The companions offer nothing to the show, the show would be better to have the doctor travel alone having the odd random person joining her. Shop dummies from primark would have made better companions.
@Jordz19
@Jordz19 Жыл бұрын
Loving your videos!! And I guess that the only thing that makes 13 different to other incarnations is that she is just Female, which really sucks. Because there is still similarity between each 13 and the rest and that being, they are humanoid. I do agree as well with the fact that there is no character development at all! It's like previous companions, I would want them to keep going on this brilliant journey because I feel I can connect with them, I feel like myself and the companion are sharing the same dream, the same goals and feeling the same fear and the need for adventure. I don't feel like that with Ryan, Graham and Yaz, because there is barely any emotion with them making the experience relatable to the viewers. Also even-though Ryan's mum died in the first episode (which I thought could have happened way later on in the series so that emotion will grow with each of the characters), I would have wanted other close friends or family of the companions to possibly die or come to near death experiences to help develop their character and make it harder for them to keep their emotions in. But as you have said and what is still true to this day, Chris Chibnall is a terrible storyteller when it comes to being a showrunner. He has ruined the entire foundation of what Doctor Who was, hopefully now Russel T Davis will be able to say that maybe the events of "The Flux" and "The Timeless Child" thing was created because the Celestial Toymaker was morphing his/her history. Now that would make it more interesting, like what if it's something leading up to reveal that The Doctor is just a pawn in someones game but the game player is cheating and rewriting the path that The Doctor goes down and rewriting everything they ever knew. But then again, if they did that it would make the events of "The Flux" totally pointless, or would it?? As you can tell, I am always up for a Doctor Who conversation or debate
@mickeythompson9537
@mickeythompson9537 4 жыл бұрын
"13the Doctor" is the part of "Curse Of The Fatal Death" that hit the cutting-room floor for not being good enough.
@vis1975
@vis1975 4 жыл бұрын
Just yesterday I saw a brief video of Whittaker's performance in Antigone. She was terrific, powerful, almost scary. Meaning she can act as hell. Nothing in the show though is giving her the chance to do so. Chibnall is writing her as a quirky genius kid, not an old being exhausted by immortality. Plus I also saw that he actively told Whittaker to NOT research anything about the role. Basically he told her to perform the doctor characters as he writes it, not as the actress understands it.
@Wayner71
@Wayner71 4 жыл бұрын
I have a theory that Yaz is actually work-shy and will do anything to avoid fronting up at the cop-shop on a Monday morn. Maybe they should pursue that narrative. As if..
@subparlario4916
@subparlario4916 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly the whole bit of "Gallifrey's destroyed again because of the Master!" just makes ask WHAT WAS THE POINT OF DOTD IF GALLIFREY GETS DESTROYED REGARDLESS. Not to mention the Doctor went BACK in Series 9.
@Delphini_Zucchini
@Delphini_Zucchini 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I think that 13 is the greatest Doctor. She is sweet, funny, loveable, different, quirky, and I find her HELLA relatable.
@stevedoggart2805
@stevedoggart2805 4 жыл бұрын
I can't help but agree 100% with you on this. Excellent work. Far better than the nay sayers of "She cant be the Dr cos. she is a lady person! " You actually give reasons for your opinion, rather than just throw your toys out of the pram and scream at the thunder.
@juno579
@juno579 4 жыл бұрын
In conclusion: Chibnall is crap and we should petition for the return of Moffat and Davies
@bendewalt5560
@bendewalt5560 4 жыл бұрын
So uh, ryan's motivation is that he wants a "normal" life and feels that his disability and family situation keeps him from that. He travels with the doctor because she goes out of her way to treat him as such as inducated by their moment under ground in the ghost monument.
@therockingvolbeat3630
@therockingvolbeat3630 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion she fails to bring any emotion to speeches that other doctors could have, yes they haven't been the most ground-breaking memorable speeches, but any of the other doctors could pull them of and make them his own and she's just fails to do that
@sarahkreis8419
@sarahkreis8419 3 жыл бұрын
That's so on point! Jodie Whittaker is a great actress and she does the best she can do with this really bad writing. And the problem is definitley not the Doctor being a woman, Missy was just amazing. I think it would have been better for the show not becoming this popular, or at least if the writers wouldn't care about it's popularity that much. Now they are trying to make it all fun and easy and political correct in a really weird way (I love when shows and movies take care about political correctness, but doing it that way actually just hurts the cause, because it's so obvious that they are just doing it for publicity and not because they really care and it's so bad written). This way it's just not the Doctor anymore. I was so happy when I heard that the next Doctor is going to be a woman because of what they did with the Master and Missy and because it really was time for that, and it even fits the fan theories about the Doctor subconsciously choosing his next form fitting with all of what he experienced before his regeneration, but all they did was giving the sexists munition for saying the Doctor should have stayed a man.
@latenightcoffeeshop7112
@latenightcoffeeshop7112 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta disagree, Missy to me didn’t feel like the Master. She was a brilliant character, but not the Master to me.
@iangreen4572
@iangreen4572 4 жыл бұрын
She could've been the Rani or any other " Time Lady ". I don't understand this obsession with turning male characters into females. If you want a female character, make a new one or re-introduce an old one. Even my mum refuses to watch it since Whittaker took over
@elijahmitchell9944
@elijahmitchell9944 4 жыл бұрын
Ian Green no she made it pretty obvious herself she was the master
@latenightcoffeeshop7112
@latenightcoffeeshop7112 4 жыл бұрын
Elijah Mitchell I never said she wasn’t the master but the character didn’t feel like the master
@matthewduncan8523
@matthewduncan8523 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I thought that she nailed the narcissistic chaotic vibe of the master, but you do you
@erichurd7605
@erichurd7605 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewduncan8523 Clearly you've never watched Delgado or even Ainley. Scary Poppins isn't even close to either. Generic raving psychopath vs. Elegant evil genius.
@evatinney6843
@evatinney6843 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the new doctor. I feel she has a lot of room to grow but so did every doctor in their first season
@BWHERE
@BWHERE 3 жыл бұрын
And do you feel she's grown at all during her second season? How so?
@panickysociety97
@panickysociety97 4 жыл бұрын
If they wanted a lesbian relationship they could have just brought back River. 🙄
@humphreyearwicker312
@humphreyearwicker312 4 жыл бұрын
This video is the best summation of everything wrong with the show. I can live with uneven scripts, some mild retconning, a nonsensical sonic screwdriver, and a crystal TARDIS, if the Doctor wasn’t such a passive ghost of a character. In Spyfall 1, a security dude with a gun tells her to go back in the house so he can handle the monster AND SHE MEEKLY OBEYS! I was hoping against all evidence that Season 12 would be an improvement but that moment killed it. Eccleston, Tennant, Smith, and Capaldi all established their characters very quickly, but Whittaker has had two seasons and is still a cipher. The problem isn’t that she’s a woman - it’s that she isn’t a person. She is the most anti feminist character on tv today.
@kingmuizz708
@kingmuizz708 4 жыл бұрын
She doesn't feel like the Dr because she tries too hard to be the Dr...
@BWHERE
@BWHERE 4 жыл бұрын
Well, she imitates surface level concepts from other Doctors. "10 and 11 were goofy and made references, so I will be too! A fez, awesome, I love fezzes!" etc.
@kingmuizz708
@kingmuizz708 4 жыл бұрын
@@BWHERE omg dude hi!! I love your channel!!
@laurajones5323
@laurajones5323 4 жыл бұрын
I love Jodie Whittaker as the doctor she is funny I watch series 11 and series 12 now
@terrenceseidel3054
@terrenceseidel3054 4 жыл бұрын
Tge writing needs to be the Doctor Not just a woman being in a Blue Box.
@jurassicboyca1594
@jurassicboyca1594 4 жыл бұрын
They all just follow the doctor and do what she says because they’re from Yorkshire/Sheffield Also this is only the first season and we saw how that was slowly developed with tennant in the same way. I like the way she has her DIY character
@onerian8178
@onerian8178 4 жыл бұрын
just comparing her to 11, 11 liked a lot of things fish fingers and custard, bow ties, fez's, stetsons. the list goes on. thirteen has no opinion on anything that's obviously bad like racism and sexism. also she commands no authority like every other doctor. there's no oncoming storm or the monster that Daleks fear. she's not the doctor.
@finlynham5841
@finlynham5841 4 жыл бұрын
The 13th Doctor seems like a new blank with the same name but none of the memories
@sam11182
@sam11182 4 жыл бұрын
The 12th doctor gambled for his eyesight and he said that he would face the consequences. The consequences were a disconnect between his brain and the reality
@suedefringe
@suedefringe 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Also, if I hear her say Fam one more time....
@sonnykingcomposer
@sonnykingcomposer 4 жыл бұрын
I really like 13 ngl
@rmmj7james293
@rmmj7james293 4 жыл бұрын
This is great content! Thank you for your work. I thoroughly enjoy your insights. 😁
@BWHERE
@BWHERE 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@a1081042
@a1081042 4 жыл бұрын
Saw her first episode. Stopped watching immediately.
@zainaslayer5953
@zainaslayer5953 4 жыл бұрын
Me too!!
@IdahoDali
@IdahoDali 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting my feelings into words!
@raymondoreilly959
@raymondoreilly959 4 жыл бұрын
It's Doctor Who by name .Not by Spirit .The cast Dull as dishwater writing lazy music trying to hard to go back to the BBC workshop (GOD! I miss Murray Gold) We do know that Chibs had no interest in running the show or even writing for it .He can do a goodish Cybermen story .But whats pissing me off this Political side swipe in the story line (THIS IS NOT DW) Who care if a person is gay or trans nothing to do with the storyline .(CHIBS) Dose a story about the carbon footprint and fly's off to South Africa .Am i missing something .And has a pop at the general public and the fandom over our use of fossil fuels while they try to sell there merchandise wrapped in plastic ....Sorry about the rant But this is a show i loved since a child i don't recognize it anymore
@hmsljj
@hmsljj 4 жыл бұрын
"How can you not be having fun watching Doctor Who?" I kept asking myself that throughout series 11. Something was just off that I just could not pinpoint. Thanks so much for articulating what seemed for me to be lacking with the show. And it helps so much that this opinion that I agree with is coming from a lady. This allows me to re-enforce that I could care less if the Doctor is female, or a person of color, or an alien with two heads. I just want to get excited again in anticipation of the the next WHO adventure. Well, it does go in cycles. I have to remind myself the there’s a large percentage of people who had a problem with the Moffat era and stopped watching. So what I’m experiencing now is not at all new to WHO. Anyway, great video. Keep 'em coming. They are very good.
@BWHERE
@BWHERE 4 жыл бұрын
... I'm a guy...
@hmsljj
@hmsljj 4 жыл бұрын
@@BWHERE Oh. Well shit. My apologies. Still enjoy the analysis but now with a different perspective.
@Juan-ng7rs
@Juan-ng7rs 4 жыл бұрын
@@hmsljj OOF SIZE: Large
@jamesattenbourgh
@jamesattenbourgh 4 жыл бұрын
I think the problem is both the writing and Whittaker I feel she’s miscast she just isn’t putting anything unique into it.
@jonathandoyle513
@jonathandoyle513 4 жыл бұрын
There is a way to square this circle, merging the old into the new. If We have The Doctor's mother being human, then if the Endless Child was found as child the DNA would be half and half that would confuse Techtuen but she would recognise that some of the DNA was similar to her own so she would know she could splice it into her own and the rest of the planet. It is known on Earth that if Lion and Tigress have a cub then they will have offspring that are twice as large the parents as the lion doesn't care the size limiting gene but lioness does, while tigers are the other way round. If the Doctor is a Hybrid, then maybe he doesn't carry the regeneration limiter gene but never knew it because the Division\ Celestial Intervention Agency tampered with his memory, they have done it in the past making him forget how to build a demat circuit. The Doctor in the original pilot said he was from the far future, So the Endless child could have fallen through a time schism or got lost on a trip from the future and found by Techteun. As for being Endless they stopped trying to kill him, we don't know for a fact he\she is if she was and travelled endlessly ever point in space would be a Doctor so we have to assume an end. As for 8 he didn't need to regenerate he didn't die in the crash, he just felt he needed to control his regeneration.
@ember.mp3
@ember.mp3 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not Whittaker, it’s Chibnall, his weiting is absolutely stupid and Series 12 got worse by the Timless Children
@astridmartinez2022
@astridmartinez2022 3 жыл бұрын
10th was bananas 11th was fishfingers and custard
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