The 16in Civilian AR15 + LPVO [BCM] to 650yds: Practical Accuracy

[@davidli3582]

As someone who only has a 16" BCM, this video makes me want to spend money on ammo and training.

[@Nightmare87-128]

This is the attitude for 2025.

[@deltaraider87]

Yep, love my BCM!

[@jackbuendgen389]

100% the right call!

[@StellarGale]

No matter what, you shall spend money on ammo and training

[@terbltim8214]

Ammo & training is money well spent no matter what.

[@MarylandMilitarySurplus]

Re-igniting the barrel length debate right as we roll into 2025, excellent!

[@uwize5897]

how has it been a debate? 556 only "works" at extreme velocity. the minimum barrel length is 14.5

[@jwhiskey534]

It's because of the barrel debate that I ended up with 6 different upper receivers with different barrel lengths :(

[@ricklastname9427]

​@@uwize5897....and so it begins 🤌

[@theforcedmeme]

20 inch gang rise up

[@MasahikoKohineko]

@@jwhiskey534 You say it like it's a bad thing.

[@SSgt-]

As an old retired Marine small arms/marksmanship instructor, the free floated, mid-length gas, 16” barrel with LVPO would have been a better replacement for the A2 /A4 than the M4.

[@fortusvictus8297]

M4 was because of the increase in MOUT during the GWOT (especially Iraq) and just how many in the military only carry as a formality because they never leave the base. M4 is great for getting into and out of vehicles as the most action the primary weapon ever sees.

[@SSgt-]

@ I know all that, I was referring to the mid-length 16” being a better option. The Corps has adopted the overpriced M27 which is mid-length piston gas 16”

[@jamesgunnyreed]

I agree with this! I had no issues doing CQB/CQC or MOUT (whatever the kids call it now) with a 20" M16A2. Its all I knew. It was around, but I never got to qualify with or carry an M4 before I retired. BUT I can certainly see its benefits in close encounters, but without a suppressor it would be brutal.. I have shot plenty of 14.5, 10", and I own an 8" AR Pistol. without a suppressor they are almost useless. And the 16" M27 with a suppressor is longer than an A2 so what's the point? Never mind the weight of the damn thing. I now have personal 16" AR's that with the collapsible stock feel like what I would call a "Carbine". Now, with the new SIG Light Machine gun (If the USMC adopts it) the entire reason for getting rid of the SAW and going to the M27 is a non starter.....I really think the 16" is a great all around rifle . Semper Fi!

[@rc-pm1fe]

Marine here, 0351, I pushed my m4 with Acog out to 650 with effective spotted hits. Took it out to 800 as well but could not confirm impacts.

[@brianhowe1982]

My unit retained the M16A4 until the M27s were handed out. I learned to love the M27.

[@CB-zo9dn]

Now we need a Poor Build to run the course. Something like a PSA AR with a police trade in optic running PMC 223

[@mmancino1982]

So.... My budget😂

[@LordSStorm]

I wouldnt even go PSA. Go with a real poor mans rifle. Something like an ATI Omni.

[@mobilegamersunite]

The PA-10 308 can be had for under 600 (mine was 570) still going strong at a couple thousand rounds

[@baker90338]

/k/ompromise, psa freedom midlength with magpul furniture and a sig 1-6x or a Romeo 5 +juliet magnifier.

[@kevinalvarez5079]

Radical Firearms rifle with an amazon special optic.

[@whells69]

Real friends don't let friends lose their hearing! It was cool to see Josh warn Henry in advance.

[@CxS_Nico]

BCM is todays gold standard that Colt was 10 years ago. Good stuff guys.

[@oldscratch3535]

Colt hasn't been relevant in 20 years. They were bankrupt 10 years ago.

[@DV8-q6n]

What makes BCM the gold standard? Both Colt and BCM outsource their parts, including barrels and bolts and bolt carriers. I would put a current CR6920 up against a BCM any day.

[@kodiak7964]

@@DV8-q6n BCM does outsource but they check the parts they receive thoroughly. Basically QC++. I prefer Geissele or DD due to their true in-house manufacturing.

[@DV8-q6n]

@@kodiak7964 So, quality control is their claim to fame? I've got nothing against BCM or Colt. I'd take either any day. I have to say, I don't think QC++ makes one company better than the other. I've never had a problem with a Colt rifle. Thanks for the knowledge.

[@oldscratch3535]

@@kodiak7964 Even DD outsources 5.56 BCG's. Microbest makes them. The DD5 BCG's are made in house though.

[@Natedawgontheright]

The modern musket. Everyone should have one. We'll maybe not everyone but most of us 😊. There's some crazies out there

[@mezzanoon]

I'd like to see this up against PSA's cheapest 16" AR - probably the most common in America at this point

[@airsoftbuddy83]

Initial accuracy will probably not be any better on the BCM. But accuracy over time will be far superior on the BCM

[@GoatDR]

They will never directly compare BCM to Aero or PSA when it comes to accuracy. They know it won't look good for BCM.

[@georgewhitworth9742]

@@GoatDRBCM's are hardly more expensive then Aero, I don't get what your trying to set egos on.

[@jagx234]

​Why? PSA makes chrome lined hammer forged barrels in house just like FN et al do. They have some genuine issues, the infamous over torqueing and such, but barrel life is not one of them. ​@@airsoftbuddy83 Edit: hammer not hanger

[@GoatDR]

@@georgewhitworth9742 BCM complete uppers are $800 and Aero complete uppers are $400 at Schuyler's. More accurate uppers for literally half the price.

[@justcallmejoeable]

If the 16" didn't have the NFA implications there would be a community unironically championing it as the best do-all or GP barrel length. The same as every other length out there has its people that swear by them.

[@CiviTac]

14.5 p&w are so prolific now that I’d consider them a great alternative to the 16in if you don’t plan on swapping suppressor mounts etc.

[@donwyoming1936]

Velocity is king. Anything under 16 inch ain't got it.

[@taylormartin4346]

FACTS

[@coreyp9211]

People are spoiled nowadays. 13-14 years ago when I first started getting into ARs it was 16” or nothing. SBR wait times were 8+ months and no one had heard of a “pistol brace”.

[@biggboysouth]

@@donwyoming1936 Lol, this comment sounds just like the old dudes that swore anything shorter than 20" was garbage. Now here we are years later where 20" rifles are just range toys for the most part. I think a big reason is the advancement of ammo powder charges. 16" vs 20" Muzzle velocity isn't that big of a difference with modern loadings. Personally I am in the 16" camp as well, I just thought your comment was funny from a nostalgia stand point. I like other lengths for different reasons. 77 grain ammo doesn't take as big of a velocity hit that the 55grain stuff does so barrel length is more forgiving. But a 16" paired with 77 grains is an awesome package.

[@Pompomgrenade]

Subconscious usage of Kentucky windage is the outcome of deep experience behind the trigger... Henry makes mastery look easy😅

[@MagicPrepper]

As a fellow 16" BCM enjoyer, I appreciate the overview and debrief. Good work.

[@biggboysouth]

Dang those rounds are zipping out of that 16" barrel! This past year I've been convinced that a 16" rifle paired with 77grain ammo is a killer combo. Great combo for an SPR as well.

[@SuckaforPayne]

Agreed, pair it with some black arc 77gr stuff and it really comes alive

[@atfsgeoff]

A well-gassed rifle is such an overlooked feature. 4:00 ejection pattern, less wear and tear on everything and softer shooting to boot. Mid-length or rifle length system just further increases these benefits.

[@VBMichael_D]

But you can't run a rifle length on a barrel less than 18". 18"-20" is the best bet. Plus, none of you civvies are going to be 'clearing rooms' to the point that two extra inches of barrel aren't going to hurt you, plus, you get to run a better gas system.

[@atfsgeoff]

@@VBMichael_D Sure you can, ever heard of a dissipator?

[@Chewee394]

​@@VBMichael_Di think it depends on the person's height and what they're comfortable with. Im 6'2" and can handle a 20" barrel perfectly fine. My coworker who is 5ft is comfortable with a 14.5" barrel. The weight on the end of the barrel can have an affect too.

[@Nach0s187]

@@VBMichael_Dcalling people civvies is the most pog shit ever 😂

[@marcogianfranco4918]

Spot the Fed 😂 ​@@VBMichael_D

[@coreyp9211]

My main squeeze is a 16” BCM hammer forged ELW upper with a Trijicon Credo HX. I feel validated.

[@kevingridermissionair8020]

Exact same except, Credo 1-6 Segmented Circle/BDC reticle. Love the weapon, glass & reticle!! Marine 87-91.

[@danwilliams5867]

I was LE instructor for rifle. Sigh, the majority of LEO had a hard time hitting at 75 yards and we limited course to 100 yards or less. Other than prior service, US Army or USMC vets, trying to teach holdoff or windage was impossible. The majority were college educated and had very little to no experience in firearms and really didn't care. They wouldn't practice on their own time at all( you want me better, set up training day and pay me) and just didn't care. We tried to show how easy it was to hit at 200 yards, I used M1 Garand in offhand , to hit steel plates. They were totally dismissive of it and said it could never happen. Glad I retired from it and just shoot HP and other matches now

[@oldscratch3535]

I kind of agree with that response (if you want me better, pay me to do it). Its a job bro. People deserve compensation for their time, even when just training to meet requirements for the job. I operate CNC machines. I don't pay for training out of my own pocket and on my own time. The company pays for it if they require it.

[@connorburnes7697]

Yeah I don’t miss LE. So many people just didn’t care that a bit of extra practice could literally save their life one day. I don’t get why you’d want to get into a professional and not want to be the best you can at it.

[@danwilliams5867]

@@connorburnes7697 this came as LE became a well paying job, not that you served your community , country etc. So with that a changing attitude of literally a mercenary. Who pays me the most gets me. We showed up 15-30 minutes before shift and got ready to go. Starting about 2002 nope. They showed up 1-2 minutes early and left exactly as shift ended unless they could clock in and got payed for it. Firearms training or maintance was a pain. They wouldn't even clean weapon on their time. Nope you want it clean pay me

[@toynazi]

75 yards with an AR and they couldn't hit steel??

[@danwilliams5867]

@@toynazi nope

[@australovenatortomino_1741]

29:14 That jumping spider was determined to stay on.

[@Pete3499]

Saw that too. Just climbed up and hunkered down for the course of fire

[@mrmcbeth]

That’s funny.

[@jasondubois3399]

I got my 14.5 BCM upper in 2022 as my first rifle and I didn’t have much money at the time so I knew I was only going to get one rifle and it would need to last a while. I’m still using it now and it’s still shooting great in 2025 even though I have many more rifles now.

[@papaBRO261]

You should do the test with a psa freedom ar with a poverty tier optic with pmc bronze 223. It could be the just as good run

[@JohnZ556]

😂 The 'just as gud' gang showing up again. Sucking on a truck load of copium. I had two Sabre uppers, two freedom uppers and several BCMs. No, PSA isn't the same quality level as BCM. Also, the cheapest low pressure 223 fmj brass ammo isn't 'just as gud' as match ammo.

[@papaBRO261]

@JohnZ556 the whole reason I posted this comment is to poke fun at the "just as good " community lol

[@scherry9198]

@@JohnZ556 Wow, you really missed his point.

[@JohnZ556]

​@@scherry9198Maybe I did? Maybe he should edit it again?

[@papaBRO261]

@JohnZ556 Yeah, I edited it because I had a typo on the original comment. Maybe you should go back to reading class instead of trying to be an edge lord on the internet . THIS IS AN INSULT (so you could better understand)

[@buliwyf3236]

The middle A,B,C's now. Aero, BCM and CMMG!

[@MegaAndy93]

It's B D G BCM, Daniel, G$

[@Ghost-sz2qm]

The s for solgw

[@MegaAndy93]

@@Ghost-sz2qm it's geissele not solgw

[@blessedone1845]

A, B, C, D, G… ADM, BCM, Centurion, Daniel Defense, Geissele

[@legacy1776sibes]

Anderson, Bear Creek, Chiappa.

[@georgesakellaropoulos8162]

I have a 27 year old Camry that's bulletproof as a daily driver because it's been maintained. My shtf carbine is an 80% build with a PSA upper, a Geissle ssa trigger, and a Magpul lower parts kit. I handload my ammo. After about 5,500 rounds or so, it's still holding right at 1 MOA out to 400, which is as far as I have access to .

[@michaelstringer1840]

Until you said that I did not realize truly how old my truck is.

[@FLmanAzonehit]

Lmfao!!! Sure it is bud.

[@DaedalusHelios]

1 shot group?

[@georgesakellaropoulos8162]

@@DaedalusHelios 5. It doesn't hurt that I handload all of my ammo.

[@SGCXD]

Now do a PSA freedom upper with mid-tier 55gr ammo and the cheaper Vortex or Primary Arms lpvo. I think that would enlighten a lot of people that think they’re serious. For a bonus have someone that is a casual shooter do the run (Henry might make it look more capable than the baseline)

[@9HoleReviews]

One thing our PA series doesn't do, is demonstrate longevity and wear. You're seeing 20-30 rounds on a rifle in these courses. Most modern rifles 'can' do this course when shot with quality ammunition and optics. The major departure is whether they will keep doing it 1000 rounds later, 5000 rounds later, etc.

[@raykettel1837]

@@9HoleReviews Ben Stoeger says Aero Precision is more garbage than he first thought. After maybe 5000 rounds at most it started keyholing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3qQpmWKbLueitE He goes on to say he likes his BCM guns with one with possible 15,000 rounds through the barrel.

[@erickvelez4691]

Bro put the ak12 vs m4a1 fn herstal to compete​@@9HoleReviews

[@alphalegionaire]

I'm watching this as I clean my 16' BCM with ACOG instead of LPVO (superior combo in my opinion) but you guys make me proud

[@mdogg6491]

Which model?

[@HiroProtag]

I remember when I went to JRTC in Louisiana in the mid 00s, Opfor was testing out LPVOs and it just made so much sense at the time. Happy to see the variety on the market

[@shawnpatten6515]

7:37 such an excellent point. I recently bought a 16” Geissele SD upper. Not exotic, but outperforms pretty much everything else in my safe.

[@BAdventures]

A great example of a 'do-it-all' or 'go-to' rifle. Good quality and reliable. Slick and practical, not fancy. BCM promoted meeting or exceeding mil-spec AR/M4 rifles from the start. Consistent standards and QC. A replacement for the old "A, B, C" manufacturers mentioned. They were driven by the decline of old Colt with multiple bankruptcy issues and restructures. Colt lowered their standards and stopped making mil-spec rifles. So BCM stepped in to fill that void. (31:43) Check the Max Range conversion: 650 yards = 594 meters on my calculator. Good demo and discussion.

[@crafty714]

The 16-inch rifle is in just about every home, and they need to know what is capable of. Thank you for showing this.

[@zubdub2506]

Do appreciate the resurgence of the 16" barrel debate. People have gotten too caught up in the 11.5 to 14.5" length, and completely ignore the long-time civilian and LEA standard. 16" barrels really do give you the best of all worlds, and save you the annoyance of dealing with NFA.

[@petrimakela5978]

Deciding barrel length based on tax policy is just silly

[@theforcedmeme]

20 inch gang rise up

[@petrimakela5978]

@@theforcedmeme I run 10" 😂

[@Flashhideronly]

@@petrimakela5978 regardless, 16” is pretty much the best length to have

[@Flashhideronly]

@@petrimakela5978running a 10” is cutting very very close to that 5.56 thresh hold of performance

[@PoliticallyInsensitive]

If i can hit it to 400 with my "poor" tier franken build and ammo it's not zeroed with I'm not surprised this rifle did this well. The 16" platform will never die and it will never be irrelevant.

[@officedullard8722]

29:18 That poor spider's world is being rocked.

[@jaredolson2558]

Shortly after I turned 21, I bought my first rifle. I got a 16" midlength fsb BCM upper and bcg, and I bought an aero lower. Currently I have a primary arms SLX nova on it, and have a grip I made out of a an a1 pistol grip attached to a rail segment on the clamshell handgaurd. Its a pretty decent setup and doesnt necessarily break the bank.

[@rondobrondo]

I really love that SLx Nova, specifically with the Mil reticle. Yeh the eyebox on it isn't amazing or anything, but overall, the scope is really not that much worse than a Vortex Viper PST Gen 2 or a Vortex Razor Gen II-E

[@MrKThomas1976]

Seems like a solid set up you can always upgrade the optic later when you outgrow it.

[@jaredolson2558]

@MrKThomas1976 Yeah. Not really sure what I'd replace it with though because any other lpvo doesn't really seem to have features worth replacing the nova, and I don't want a full size scope. I wish I could find something similar to the old Nightforce 2.5-10x24 that's somewhat compact, good eyebox, and good glass that isn't extremely expensive.

[@MrKThomas1976]

@ all I meant was if the 1x6 works for you, just upgrade the quality of glass, if what you have works, don’t change anything, if you need more magnification upgrade to more magnification and the best glass you can afford.

[@jaredolson2558]

@MrKThomas1976 I got that lol, I meant more that I'm not really sure what optic I'd upgrade to

[@RuBearUSA]

Would be interesting to see a side by side comparison of 1000-1500 AR15 rifles, to include PSA Sabre, LWRC IC, DD, BCM, SOLW (for example) to see whether which is the most worthy. BCM as the standard / base comparison unit

[@cl4998]

SOLGW make the highest quality, and relatively affordable ar-15's on the market.

[@coryhosselkus6233]

@@cl4998im sure they have great quality control but I dislike that they use a BA barrel for the price they charge.

[@hamslamshamburgmasta1724]

For multiple AR15 platforms the differences really wouldn’t be apparent between the companies for a coarse like this

[@kodiak7964]

@@cl4998 Overpriced for what they offer honestly.

[@TerminalM193]

​@@cl4998SOLGW literally don't make a single thing. They use other manufacturers for everything but they are damn good at putting stuff together correctly and testing everything.

[@robertpenney001]

I carried a PSA blemish with romeo and juliet optic and mil-spec trigger. Was better than what the department provided.

[@aaron.from.winchester6744]

I think BCM’s are exceptional rifles. It is my go to company.

[@MrWadeant]

Enjoying Henry's HK cup in the debrief! Even when it is not an HK vid, he has to get them in there somehow! Loving the videos guys, keep up the good work!

[@KhanTrav]

As a patrol officer, for a decade we carried ruger mini-14s paired with the Remington 870. Then we switched to ARs. Our current Patrol rifles are TriArcs with Aimpoint PRO optics.

[@johnbalison8983]

BCM is great stuff shoot 800meters consistently with all my mid lengths. 600 with my 11.5's 500 all day long on the fly..I'd stack them up with any of the high dollar Gucci guns

[@mohawk3371]

Sionics and SOLGW are now what BCM used to be back in the day.

[@drunknnirish]

Sionics flies under the radar imo.

[@davidalpers6869]

I always enjoy your shooting videos, the after discussion was an extra bonus. I enjoyed my coffee while listening to both of you.

[@jamesmurdock4830]

My Border Patrol Issued Rifle is a Colt M4A1 wearing a BCM 11.5 freefloated upper with an Aimpoint PRO and Troy Backup Irons.

[@Aonghuis]

Quality setup.

[@rondobrondo]

Damn, the Border Patrol actually issued you that exact setup? That's pretty cool

[@jamesmurdock4830]

@@rondobrondo i love it

[@minilogoguy18]

My first AR was a BCM 14.5 P&W. Still going, still making way tighter groups than the mil standard after thousands of rounds. Recently upgraded the rail to the new Raider and love it.

[@stephenpetrikowski]

I took my BCM out to 1k yards with an NX8 and Geissele 2 stage. I ran out of usable holds at 900, but made a shot at 1k with dialing and holding. I used AAC 77gr SMK. BCM makes great rifles. I've had many top tier brands, but I've always kept my BCM. Now it has an NGAL and a B&T suppressor.

[@SavageShooter93]

There is a reason the AR platform is used worldwide by special forces and everyone else who needs a really good rifle. With good components and good factory ammo or tailored hand loads you can get phenomenal accuracy out of an AR. My current pet load is a 70gr TSX with 25.2gr of Staball. 2700fps from a 16" barrel and just barely under 2" 20 shot groups with an ACOG. Damn good from a lightweight barrel on a lightweight rifle franken build.

[@armorers_wrench]

Kyle Litzie just won the IPSC rifle world shoot with a Vortex Razer 1-6. It still has what it takes.

[@frankopanklaric]

It's the only lpvo I would consider. Use what the real shooters use.

[@kodiak7964]

@@frankopanklaric Its heavier. I'd rather have a PLXc

[@frankopanklaric]

@@kodiak7964 That's why you are you and the pros are pros.

[@Lucysdad66]

Test results show the arken tracks way better than vortex matter of fact the arken tracks better then 3k scopes. This has been proven by testing equipment not by word of mouth.

[@frankopanklaric]

@@Lucysdad66 Word of mouth? The best shooters use the gear they use because it's the best. Not because some youtuber did some "tests".

[@pewpewbbqs]

Every day, I love my BCM a little bit more

[@xxmrbrooksxx]

I've owned three ARs since getting out of the Army. Stag Arms, Palmetto State Armory and the BCM upper I put on that PSA lower. My experience, the BCM is the best and my favorite I've owned, so far. BCM makes great products. BCM is definitely better than any rifle I've been issued in the Army.

[@DC-cf1hm]

My second AR was a BCM 16" BFH middy that I bought in 2010, after reading the one and only, Pat Rogers article in SWAT Filthy 14!!!! This AR is awsome and I will never get rid of it!!!

[@cassivellaunushonestus4927]

I went with a BCM blem MK. 2 standard upper in my build. Stripped Lead Star lower, PSA parts kit, Hiperfire single stage trigger, Mission First Tactical furniture, BCM grip, Sig Sauer Tango LPVO.

[@EricBelisle-y1r]

Been a big fan of BCMs. Duty grade rifle on patrol for 10yrs. Still runs and 1.5"-2.5" moa on each biannual qualifications.

[@DB-yj3qc]

Good review on BCM rifles and uppers. I was getting uppers from them when it was a relatively unknown company.

[@cheesenoodles8316]

The value and performance available in the mid tier market is good enough to catch me with an AR/LPVO at the range. The ability to add an optic and get ammo is appreciated.

[@lobster8009]

Im running a Savage MSR 15 Recon 2 with a Meopta Optika6 3-18x56. Only mod is an adjustable gas block since i do occasionaly use a suppressor. Might be a weird choice of optic to an american but where i live dynamic shooting is practically non existent. Static shooting is what i do at a maximum distance of 300m. More typical is 100m. Gotta say this setup is superbly accurate and very reliable.

[@callsigncoyote7931]

I just finished a 16” BCM build and it’s quickly become my favorite AR Ive built so far.

[@zanegardner6488]

There is no reason to spend more money on a AR then a BCM. Legit buy a BCM and you'll never need anything else. My favorite AR manufacturer not even close

[@MrStudmuffin90]

I have been waiting for this release since started following , you guys nailed it! Thank you 😎

[@brockhart3089]

I have a complete bcm and several uppers that I put on aero stripped owers with all bcm parts. That is definitely a more cost effective route. That said, all function flawlessly.

[@billj5645]

In the AR15 platform, a good barrel, preferably freefloated, and good ammunition are the primary requirements for good mechanical accuracy. The other stuff that people spend money on are primarily for looks, bragging rights, feel, longevity, human interaction. If that rifle has 10k rounds through it then it is doing very well. An AR barrel that starts off with high accuracy will usually fall off a lot by 5k rounds, opening up to 2 or 3 MOA.

[@DeadEyeWJ]

The new A B and C are probably Aero, BCM, and you could still say Colt but I’d argue for Centurion.

[@LONEWOLF_LCD]

Another great Vidja…… i have this exact build just with a Criterion Core barrel, vs the stock BCM barrel. I would like to see you do a range run with a LMT 308 or 6.5 CM. Even one of their 16” 556 would be interesting. They do make military style weapons……

[@SuperSecretSquirell]

29:15 that spider was going for a wild ride. He might regret going back in there once the barrel gets hot.

[@danielandrews7028]

Personally my front sight obscures a paper target at 50yds. I have a solution that works for me. A 20 inch AR has a great sight picture from 300-600yds depending on your eyesight. The front sight post on a 20 inch is .72 and in order to match the sight picture on a carbine length you will need a .52. And if a .52 size match front sight is used on a 20 inch than a .34 will mimic that on a carbine length. All those sizes come in the kns pack. The taper of the kns might mess with some people’s minds so they might look at other brands that are squared off or perfectly round.

[@YacolJ]

I'm still rocking the Bushmaster XM16 quad rail. Built Anderson lower. Polished trigger(crisp). Perfect duty rifle.

[@WREKLOC]

I love this channel. Simple as that. You guys have tested what my HK91 can do and now a build similar to mine. I just run a Vortex Strike Eagle FFP. Was this MK1 or MK2 Recce 16?

[@KitXKit120]

Thanks guys. Aside from my rifle being an Aero rather than a BCM due to budget constraints, my setup is practically the same. PA 1-6 lpvo, white light and of course BSI panels and handstop. Excellent video!!

[@jdizzy01]

I took my BCM build out to CMP south, 100 to 300 was stupid easy with my Holosun red dot and Juliet micro combo. 600 I had no idea where to hold over. One of the RSOs told me "put the dot on the middle of the stall number downrange" and lo and behold within 10 rounds I had the 3 shot grouping to get my card punched, using PMC bronze 223. I love my BCM rifle

[@FLmanAzonehit]

We have to qualify at 300 on a 6” plate and my Eotech dot covers the entire plate so qualifying at 300 was impossible. Need a magnifier for those small plates.

[@ngilbert100]

I’m shooting the BCM 16” 410 1/8 barreled upper and a 14.5” BCM ELA CHF 1/7 . I’ve noticed both shoot slightly better 100 yard groups with 69 grain match rather than 77 grain. It’s consistent enough across the different match ammo to be noticeable. Not what I was expecting.

[@garenosborn]

A couple of years ago i took my bcm 16" goverment profile mid length rifle to an NRA high power match. Its got a bcm milspec si gle stage trigger, maybe 7# pull, a midwest 2 piece mlok rail. I put a gen 1 viper pst 1-4 on it and a mlok fixed front sling swivel (so i could use a service rifle sling) and just showed up with a few boxes of 55gr frontier 5.56 and my 30 year old high power shooting coat. Rifle and ammo certainly werent optimal but i didnt place last and a few months later the nra sent me a sharpshooter card based on that one match. Next match i attended i had a custom 20" rifle build and shot even better. I dont really have much use for a barrel shorter than 16" especially in 5.56. others do im sure, so they have a place, just not with me.

[@DriveCarToBar]

100% agree. If you need a shorter barrel, there are other calibers that maintain their terminal performance a lot better than 5.56 out of a short barrel. If I were to put together something with a short barrel in the neighborhood of 12", 6.8SPC would be my choice. I'm debating doing exactly that; sending in a Form 1 on my existing ZRODelta lower and slapping on a 12.5" 6.8 SPC upper. Then pick up something that's not an AR like a PSA JAKL just for cheap 5.56 funsies.

[@Bobby-gi7io]

A 16” with a k can is probably my favorite all around 5.56

[@Gringo111R]

My best friend and I both run BCM Mk2 ELW 14.5 P/W builds, they are solid, bomb proof performers and what I recommend for first time and seasoned buyers.

[@matthewrank109]

BCM and a Vortex, Thats a badger state special right there. 🦡

[@kevinmarrett9532]

One thing lacking from this video was a discussion about what my expected decrease in group size would be when my AR is fully fitted out with Slate Black Industries accessories.

[@drake0074]

I remember when BCM first hit the scene. American Rifleman did a piece about their rifles called “The Dirty Dozen” IIRC talking about how well they ran even after thousands of rounds uncleaned. They have now affectively replaced Colt as the basic mid priced milspec+ brand to go with. From there you step up to Geiselle, DD, or LWRC.

[@terrarecon]

I don't feel like DD is that much of a step up, not because they aren't quality, but because BCM is already there in terms build of quality and accuracy. Everything else is extra bells and whistles.

[@chrispearce9224]

This is right along with how my journey went in 2014??....I think. I put together a 14.5" BCM upper with parts ordered and got an Aero lower with DPMS LPK. Magpul grip and butt stock and put on a cheap red dot. Local shop had a Rise Armament Super Sport trigger since the LPK's didn't come with triggers back then. A few years later I discovered 3-gun locally. Swapped to a Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6 and each year I think between practicing, testing reloads, and monthly competitions at two separate gun ranges, I'd have to think there is 15k-ish rounds through that gun. It still has a normal regular charging handle too. But I have a different on the way currently. I had two buddies recently purchase their first black guns. One of those buddies, of course, went wild with the mods and has doubled the the original purchase price of his Black Rain Fusion. Anyway, I think he bought the Radian Raptor handle. It's super nice. So I'm going to try the Breek Sledgehammer. The other buddy has only changed his flash hider to a brake and his charging handle to the Aero Breach. His rifle is the Live Free Armory Battle Lite 556. I like it so much that I plan to get one soon. They are an incredible value.

[@farmerbrown84]

To me, less than 16", you almost need to run a suppressor - which makes it longer than 16". So, it's either 16" without or 13-14 with suppression. My 551SB with ACOG is pretty effective out to about 550m/600yds - barrel length is 353mm (14.3")

[@mikeiso8963]

I remember when BCM was considered high end. Now it’s on the less best value for dollar end of the spectrum. Best and worst time to be into guns 😂

[@TehPh1L]

I have never heard anyone say BCM is high end ? I’ve always heard it referred to as basic bitch build

[@inguz9749]

Oh man, ain't that the truth. Gotta remind myself to not try and keep up with the Joneses

[@armorers_wrench]

No matter what the internet says BCM is still very high quality. People who constantly refer to them as midtier don't understand what makes something high tier or low tier. They think extra features are what set a rifle apart. Theoretically sure, but if a manufacturer isn't consistent in their ability to manufacture the added features then it ain't worth a hill of beans. If the rifle isn't really available and you have to pay multiple times the MSRP then its also not really that impressive imo. BCM simply offers a true "milspec+" rifle. It uses the well known milspec materials, coatings and dimensions and includes a few added niceties like an mlok rail(or quad rail or even keymod still), they also have different buffer lengths(A5 or standard), etc.

[@Tulbia]

@@armorers_wrench unless you producing more than 12 shots per minute.

[@MyLonewolf25]

Quality hasn’t gone down Just prices relative to boutique guns now

[@bengarcia1091]

2 gripes. One 99% of civilian AR shooters are not using 77gr ammo. Second most ARs owned by working men are probably in the 500 to 1200 dollar range without optics.

[@9HoleReviews]

The BCM uppers are like 800$

[@bengarcia1091]

@9HoleReviews to be clear I wasn't speaking of putting one together. A COMPLETE BCM on average is about 1600 bucks where I live. Not ragging on the video it's great content. I just wouldn't call this the average American 16inch ar15 set up by a long shot! Especially the ammo choice!

[@mavrikmavrik3032]

Unless you have a really high end barrel the “accuracy” of the rifle is going to be impacted greatly by the rounds you shoot. Yes you can use 55gr range ammo to hit full sized targets at 400+ yards but using that ammo for rifle testing at distance is useless as the ammo is going to drive too much of the result. Besides you can get AAC 75 and 77 grain match rounds for nearly the same price as range ammo now and they are hella accurate out of mid tier barrels.

[@bengarcia1091]

@mavrikmavrik3032 everything you just said is false and sounded like a borderline incoherent rant......have a nice day.

[@mavrikmavrik3032]

@@bengarcia1091 ROFL, you made my day with that reply. :-)

[@TheMailmanOfSteel]

Where these rifles shine is that you can buy just the upper and put together a mil-spec lower with your choice of trigger. Most of the party happens in the upper anyways, so "cheaping out" on the lower isn't going to hurt the rifle nearly as much as on the upper.

[@tackytrooper]

29:25 the spider is very annoyed that his home is being fired

[@brittainwoolley6848]

Let's see the same rifle shoot 55 or 62 grains - because realistically, that's what most Americans "stack deep."

[@SuckaforPayne]

You’d do well to 300 or so, then the difference would start to show, I “stack deep” aac 77 gr otm, it’s like 45 cents a round

[@jollyharris1857]

BCM is iconic enough to be featured in the Graphic Novel world ..BPRE. Probably a AR ive never heard anyone speak badly of. The 16inch length is the Do All Toyota -ish of the carbine shooting world

[@wisco_guy]

Finally, a review of a rifle many of us own. I may actually watch the entire video.

[@John_439]

That's basically my same settup. Love it, best bang for buck you can get in the ar15 platform.

[@bravo_cj]

NGL I think that OG BCM handguard is kinda cool, since it's more of a round shape rather than a hexagonal one. I think it would be great if they bring it back and give it M-LOK and all the new, tacticool stuff!

[@RobertRhodes-r8k]

The most difficult wind I have shot in had me at 3.6 mils of wind with 4 mils of elevation dialed at 136 yards. 22 rimfire PRS is excellent for learning to shoot in the wind.

[@garyjohns4711]

I was not impressed with the IMI razor core brand of 77 gr ammo. I sold my supply of it and bought Black Hills 77 gr ammo. Its,A MUCH BETTER choice of ammo for me in my opinion!

[@robc5082]

Sionics is my recommendation over BCM for those wanting a do-it-all rifle. Add the NP3 BCG and it's a rifle the average person can use for life. And hundreds less than a BCM.

[@TackJorrance]

I don't think you even need to spend $1,400 or whatever on a BCM to get that level of performance and durability these days. I think you can get it for $900-$1,000. And if you build it yourself, you can do it for like $750. It's all about the barrel and the bolt-carrier more than anything else.

[@korcommander]

It just works. Something most gun tubers don't understand.

[@rudycmontejo]

@29:14 OMG that man eating spider was trying to murder Josh!

[@tmartin3151]

My local municipality doesn’t allow their officers to have anything other than a mil spec trigger.

[@smith8124]

My EXACT 16” AR lol. 16” BCM upper, Razor Gen 2-E 1-6, LaRue 2 stage MBT, SOLGW NOX muzzle device, 77gr Razor Core. Only thing it’s missing is a Unity scope mount with an offset red dot

[@muchachonextdoor5608]

Would love to see Henry mix in an AR chambered in 6.5 grendel or 6.8 SPC, it would be interesting to get his impressions

[@mylifecademychannel-wt2sr]

I'm gonna want as much barrel as possible with that little bullet. I'll run an A2 20"...CQB is a pistol thing for me!

[@jordanwerzinski1574]

So after watching this I totalled up my PSA Sabre, and came up with approx $2150 for the rifle, optic, suppressor, and light. That's all regular stuff like YHM, Streamlight, etc.

[@9HoleReviews]

Sounds right when factoring the cost of the can.

[@walther5027]

Love my fixed FSB 16 inch CHF BCM. It thumps. Very high quality fit and finish

[@DriveCarToBar]

It says a lot about the capabilities of the AR15 platform that a plain jane 16" gun that is low to mid tier can nail 500yd shots and beyond. Even with an old rifle that might have originally been what we called an M4gery with quad rails.

[@elburropeligroso4689]

Would love to see a similar setup but with a 20 inch barrel in 6.5 Grendel. I know there is a 1000 meter milk jug challenge in Utah or Idaho. It would be cool to see you do something similar.

[@samothy_r]

Rocking a BKF 13.9 midlength upper with a MI drop in quad. Put an H2 Buffer and Blue Sprinco spring in it and its smooth as butter.

[@toynazi]

I use a good bit of small parts from them. Had a few of the uppers. BKF isn't bad.

[@Matt-g1u]

Shhhh they go up if to many people find out about them

[@itsamk18-ish]

Anytime Im asked about a gun purchase i suggest bcm or solgw for rifle or Glock and M&p for pistol. Sure there are other great brands but these are just good no BS brands that just work, as to the pistols the aftermarket support is great and they’re extremely popular so stuff is easy to find.

[@joemama69448]

500 yard with a magnified optic? Too easy. People seem to forget that Army shoots to 300 with iron sights.

[@j.till_z]

2012, when 11Bs were posting pics of ammo forts on ARFCOM driving the neckbeards into a frenzy!