The 2 Most Underrated Stealth Games Were Awesome!

[@FXIA]

This is a criminally underrated channel, keep up the good work, sir!

[@asherbenjamin7925]

yup. it was an auto sub for me just after watching one video haha

[@Ichiro_Kinosita]

Exactly, the level of quality on this channel is sky high, i can't believe there's less than 5K subs, i expected to see at least 300K. Dude deserves millions and more

[@randmht9976]

This is a criminally underrated Channel. Please never stop doing what you do. We love this channel.

[@MediaKitGaming]

Working on a new video now.

[@ELV13S]

the way you breakdown things is familiar to me, feels like im watching Breaking the Magician's Code tv show but for games...u just earned a subscriber

[@lucesfuera452]

Pulsing bombs are meant for things that move in the world. Crates, barrels, and such. Creates some fine chaos.

[@MediaKitGaming]

That makes sense

[@hamadirock]

Shadwen looks fun,planning on getting it soon

[@arizepam]

Insane video quality. I'm adding Aragami 2 to my list, it looks so good!

[@MediaKitGaming]

Thanks. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

[@kenobi4582]

Loving this channel needs more subs

[@MediaKitGaming]

Love YOU!

[@acerlaptop2661]

​@@MediaKitGamingyou're such an underrated gem, your content are high quality

[@erutz5190]

Yotube randomly recommended me your Oni video, and I've now found not only a new favourite game but channel as well. Keep going and im sure you'll blow up sooner or later! Also curious if you've played godhand? Oni reminded me of it a bit, although the controlls aren't quite as intuitive.

[@MediaKitGaming]

Many Godhand fans have mentioned it in the comments of my Oni video, but I was not aware of it outside of those comments. It appears to be PS2 exclusive, and I am Windows PC exclusive. Actually, I have a Mac too but I don't game on it.

[@erutz5190]

@@MediaKitGaming It runs really well on an emulator. And much like Oni it's basically abandonware so you don't need to feel bad about it.

[@RuneKatashima]

Yeah I also got recommended to the Oni video too.

[@hamadirock]

Me too

[@bumgut]

How is this channel not massive?

[@breaddie_mercury7988]

This is a really well made video and i'm honestly impressed.

[@AscendantStoic]

Mark of the Ninja is up there also as one of the best stealth games.

[@MediaKitGaming]

Good game. Enjoyed it.

[@genghisj1372]

ive replayed mark of the ninja three times now, love that game

[@CErra310]

not underrated though, everyone knows MotN

[@genghisj1372]

yeah, its not underrated. its so good, it couldn't bear to fly under the radar, ironically

[@squishyrat]

Awesome! love the deep dive into the mechanics of these games. Really lets me know exactly what I'm getting into with these games, which helps so much in deciding which ames to play with my limited time.

[@thedango6890]

In tenchu you can as well hide bodies, and earn moves and powers, but in the 3rd one for xbox i beleive you can get a cloth sheet that you ninja stealth behind next to a wall to hide from enemies which is just pure hilariousness

[@Thiniking]

You need to play Styx 2 and Mark of the Kri.

[@Atticus_Moore]

I loved Mark of the Kri growing up. I haven't played it since so I don't know how it holds up today

[@jhary_cool]

Aragami reminds me of the Tenchu series in those PS2 days. you're right, lucky I played Black Flag first before Odyssey. the argument and presentation is spot on. u got a sub for that

[@jazzanarchy]

The Styx games are amazing stealth games.

[@D_Wito]

and are screaming "stealth" from afar, you are tiny, slimy and ugly, you don't want to be seen, most of characters don't want to see you walking and you are naturally predisposed to achieve that your way or theirs

[@PS3Fan487]

In my case fortunately I DID play the Aragami games in order-save for their technical-predecessor Path of Shadows, which I could never get to actually work despite being a free small game but Maybe Someday™, and also I still havent gotten around to 1's DLC-A2 in particular I got within the same week it released I think. Yeah the story is not mastercrafted or wholly unique and the presentation can feel jank or basic at times, but it's overall an improvement over 1 and is why I played the sequel four/five times as much as the first game (16 vs ~80 hours). It's also real cool being able to play with not just one but TWO other players if you want. I knew the devteam was small but considering how it came out I thought A2 was a gem, rough or not... so when I saw the company was closed down, I felt a profound longing. It seemed like they had just gotten somewhere, and now had to drop it all to either merge with other developer companies or do something else entirely... and considering that there was an entire graveyard placed into the hub village of the game with a slew of names that the devs knew and held dear, it broke my heart. But some games don't even get this far, so, it's bittersweet I suppose. I just hope they all get to return to their passion project(s) someday. Besides all that, you showed some bits that I hadn't considered much before as options or had not even realized just how great the variety was compared to other stealth games, so keep up the good work! =]

[@kasv4103]

so glad i found this channel, (it MUST be MY SUPERIOR STEALTH GAME SKILLS) jokes aside, so happy i found this channel easy like and sub.

[@MediaKitGaming]

Thank you, sir.

[@slicersteel0438]

amazing video. the pacing feels so easy and entertaining to follow

[@FearlessP4P1]

I always loved stealth games, because of tenchu z. Great vid. I definitely have to check out aragami 2

[@nosdregamon]

I love stealth games, and loved both Shadwen and Aragami 1. As it seems, the latter is an entirely different beast than Aragami 2. Will keep my eyes open for a sale.

[@dradrawe]

Wow, they both look so interesting ! Thanks for the discovery, I'm blown away by Aragami 2 :O

[@monkeypete4018]

1:41 "Black Flag does not feel great after Odyssey" ... Black flag is considered one of the best games of the franchise whereas Odyssey is seen as one of the worst. So this is a hot take. Why do you think Odyssey "feels" better?

[@MediaKitGaming]

You may dislike Odyssey but it is NOT seen as one of the worst. That is factually untrue. Odyssey is highly regarded. I just Googled “ranking all the Assassin's Creed games” and looking at the top 6 articles 4/6 ranked Odyssey over Black Flag. 1/6 ranked BF over Odyssey. 1/6 was a Reddit post that ranked BF over Odyssey. The rest is opinion. You’re welcome to like your games in any order and I won’t tell you you’re wrong. Nevertheless, Odyssey has vastly superior melee combat. It's much more challenging. Black Flag's melee combat was a cakewalk. Odyssey has a much larger skill tree which heavily influences melee combat options. Odyssey looks better, has a wanted system, boss battles, ranged archery combat with a variety of arrows, and ridable horses. The closest thing BF has to ranged combat is the occasional musket you pick up but can’t keep. Odyssey lets the ship dock and your character disembark seamlessly. Movement is generally more snappy while BF feels sluggish by comparison. In Black Flag, I didn’t enjoy whaling or anything swimming-related. Swimming is much better in Odyssey. The modern-day stuff is diminished in Odyssey, another plus. Odyssey has no stealth tailing missions, with fail-states for being spotted, something that IS generally regarded as a negative in games. Odyssey's open world is actually open, whereas in BF many of the islands were actually linear trails. The only thing I really enjoyed about BF was the navel combat... and Odyssey improved on it, as one would expect a sequel game to do. Any way... there's a partial answer.

[@sesshonuyasha]

@@MediaKitGaming RIP monkeypete lol

[@thedango6890]

One of my favorite things to do was bring only one poison rice ball on a missi9n and resuse it as much as possible, once they started to pick it up thry were open for a stealth kill, once i started the kill animation they would drop the ball and i could pick it up and use it again

[@orljoy]

Great content and narration! Thank you!

[@prosandbros9651]

gotta be honest I perfered the original Aragami in every way I like the limited moveset because it forces me to get creative with my limited moveset while getting multiple options will lead to me inevitably using the strongest or most efficient because my brain will criticize me if I don't (use an interesting niche tool to solve a problem well why didn't I use this stronger tool its faster, more plentiful, and objectively better to use in this situation) still good analysis though very well thought out and excellently explained I agreed with most points despite my differing views. also Shadwen seems really cool I'm gonna check it out.

[@Sazazezer]

In all honesty I played Aragami 1 and it really put me off trying the sequel. It's an okay game but it feels like a half way through development game. Your video makes me want to get the second one. Aragami 2 looks more like the spiritual successor to Tenchu that I was wanting.

[@Adurnis]

I discovered Aragami 2 on Game Pass and really fell in love with it but thought I was the only one. Why else would the studio have closed?

[@MediaKitGaming]

Yeah, I don't think the game did well enough to keep the studio going.

[@Adurnis]

@@MediaKitGaming Between that and the Mimimi Games shutdown, it sometimes feels like the larger consumer base doesn’t prefer slow, thoughtful games.

[@MediaKitGaming]

​@@Adurnis Many of my commenters pointed out that they didn't even know about Mimimi's pirate game. I think increased competition is a big factor. There are so many games coming out now. If you're a dev, how do you even pick a release date where you won't get lost in the crowd? And they're not just competing with new releases, but all the games that came before it. Why buy a new indie when you can buy a discounted game from your backlog that's 2 months old… then buy the new game after IT'S 2 months old.

[@myyoutubeaccount4167]

Well, cant say i fell in love with it but i like aragami 2. Never played part 1 but I knew about it and was following information about part 2 pre-release, until it was finally released on gamepass. I had a good time with it, even with the reused levels

[@thedango6890]

Play tenchu stealth assassins 1 and 2, best grapple and drop down kills ever, you get to unlock various items and weapons and each charcter has unique move sets and slight difference in playstyles, also the story is actually good, most cutscenes are not too long and they also set the scene. Various hidden items also let you replay the levels for more replayabliity as well as ascoring system that allows you to garner more exp to farm for more items to aid in mission. Enemies sre varied and enemy pathing is fairly well thought out and the ai for the time was decently done as well.

[@godwinyo5206]

love discovering hidden youtube gems

[@J__T]

This is the wrong video for it, but if you haven't played The Warriors from the ps2, I think you'd really like it. It has the combat you seem entirely into and, for this video, there's a bit of stealth in a kind of funny way - but not quite to the insanity of vanishing as in the Manhunt series.

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

I feel like Shadwen was inspired by an old GMTK vid on stealth where he proposed that stealth games should try stealing the time rewind mechanic from racing games.

[@MediaKitGaming]

I’ll have to check that out.

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

@@MediaKitGaming Its "How do Stealth Games Deal with Detection? - School of Stealth Part 3" His idea is slightly different as he feels it should be a limited resource with no instant fail state. Where as Shadwen has it as an unlimited resource with instant fails. But I was wrong, I looked at the dates and that vid is from 2020 and Shadwen is from 2016. So it seems to be a case of independent invention, as GMTK would likely have mentioned Shadwen as an example if he knew about it.

[@netking767]

great recommendations. Just went and bought shadwen on sale

[@eduardoburgosmontano7597]

Curioso que no me llegaran notificaciones de ningun tipo sobre el canal. Espero sigas mejorando 🇦🇷🐢

[@DayyzCrazy]

Gotta try Aragami soon..

[@TECC73]

2:12 THIS!!! But tbh, if i skip the Story, sometimes i feel lost in the game. Is a pacifist run possible in those games?

[@TwistedNightfall]

Very well set and presented video. Well done! Btw does anyone know how does Aragami 2 compare to Aragami?

[@notcraig3204]

If you approach Aragami 1 like it's a puzzle game more than stealth, the experience makes a lot more sense. Maybe give it another try in that mindset! 1 is a masterpiece and 2 is just silly fun. 2 might be the better experience if that's what you want, especially with friends. I love 2, but 1 is objectively a better game (and for the art). Playing them out of order would have changed nothing to me. Either way, I'm glad you're pointing people to it!

[@fancitickler]

Love Thief 1, 2 and 3. Earlier Splinter Cell Franchise before they became too easy. But my guilty pleasure is From software's *Tenchu Z* It's goofy, the AI is all over the place but it is fun. Very few games can you run around with just your underwear, sandals and sword causing mayhem. Especially when you upgrade your character. Gamers need a Tenchu Z remaster/reboot. Yes I know Assassins Creed has ninja's now but it is not by any stretch of the imagination TENCHU!

[@GuXingYan]

Very curious to know your thought on "Evotinction" ~

[@MediaKitGaming]

This is the first I’ve heard of it. But I’m checking it out.

[@nguyenhs9800]

Aragami 2 is so damn good. A bit lengthy and repetitive but I would highly recommend it. So sad the dev team no longer active

[@inferior-penguin8661]

I would recommend a game called "Roller Drome" it is Tony Hawk meets arena shooter and it is AWESOME 😎!

[@MediaKitGaming]

Thanks. I’ve been eyeing that one for a while now. But I’ve been hesitant these days knowing that Take-Two Interactive closed Roll7 and Intercept Games and fired everyone who developed Rollerdrome. No one who worked on that game earns anything from its sales now. But I’ll watch for sales.

[@inferior-penguin8661]

@@MediaKitGaming That is dreadful, I watched the "behind the scenes" on KZbin on that game and those people had passion and they deserved so much better.

[@misanthropicattackhelicopt4148]

You should have a look at Thief The Dark Project.

[@hexgp]

Just subscribed, you should definitely do one for Mark of the Ninja

[@MediaKitGaming]

Good game. But I don't have a concept of what I'd say about it that would contribute meaningfully to the conversation.

[@upublic]

i devoured (older) games, i devour game content, and this is top tier stuff, alongside Ahoy, Mayo & the like

[@danielcalabrese5769]

Just looked up shadwen and unfortunately it's only playable on ps4 which I traded in for the ps5 and it's not on xbox or switch and I don't have a pc

[@nojaodoggo2896]

Finally, someone rises his voice againist lore fuyoshies and talk about the real souce, mechanics.

[@IamDrerex]

I would check out aragami 1, its debatably even better than 2

[@DOT107]

Aragami 1 is like jsut yoru typical stealth game, down to the basics. Aragami 2 went full on Way of the Ninja

[@MediaKitGaming]

Always go FULL ninja!

[@flonkplonk1649]

Why have i never heard of these great games??

[@siddharthqaz]

This channel is WAAAY too underrated. I'll do my part to fix that. By the way, I liked Aragami 1 more than the sequel. The ability to paint shadows onto the environment was a cool feature. Also, the soundtrack in the first game was better by far. It also didn't put abilities like shadow kill on a cooldown.

[@darkhands4448]

Is this a retelling of a ps2 game with a brother and sister ninja duo?

[@Lilbluepenguin10]

Helldivers 2 ❤

[@LordValtrius]

I loved Shadow of Mordor which has stealth and combat similar to Horizon, which is better than you gave it credit for imo.

[@MediaKitGaming]

I didn't give Horizon enough credit? I said it was one of my favorite games ever! I dedicated a whole video to its mechanics.

[@sesshonuyasha]

Splinter Cell Blacklist was delicious good sir

[@MediaKitGaming]

I’ve written this down. Can you elaborate? Why do you like it?

[@sesshonuyasha]

@@MediaKitGaming A Much more refined and later entry from the stellar splinter cell series that had some quality of life mechanics like building up a lock on auto kill feature throughout the mission; smoothing out the play experience for more casual stealth enjoyers. I also remember bunch of cool gear to facilitate a ghost or assassin or run and gun style approaches Lastly Co-op missions that allowed for coordinated awesomeness with my bro. Oh man another stealth title I adored was AC Rogue damn good time :)

[@youcantbeatk7006]

Is Shadwen one of those stories where you can blow up the Death Star killing gorillions of people, but you shouldn't kill Vader because that'd just be going too far?

[@MediaKitGaming]

I think a strong case could be made for that argument.

[@MrOmoreau]

How about mark of the ninja ?

[@MediaKitGaming]

Good game.

[@BinaryNinjasPOV]

What about Tenchu ?? that was awesome. I preferred Aragami 1 than the 2

[@Mark_Snow]

NEW MEDIAKIT VIDEO, SUICIDE POSTPONED!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@MediaKitGaming]

LOL! Best comment eveh!

[@jojojostar6338]

Shadow gambit: the cursed crew

[@MediaKitGaming]

Yeah, great game! I've played all the Mimimi games. I touched on it a little in this video: The brilliant Stealth Strategy game no one played kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqDWpmeMod6Vr8k&ab_channel=MediaKit

[@Look-out115]

Shadow of war is a sequel to shadow of Mordor and total upgrade skip Mordor it’s just nostalgia for those who played it Has decent amount of stealth options great combat and loads of sandbox ways to play highly recommend it

[@toastbrot97]

Hey, you know what's like those games, but even better? Tenchu! Well, it's not _really_ like those games. Unlike aragami it's quite scaled back when it comes to movement mechanics. It' quite slow and methodical, a lot like the original tomb raider games, which is something that i really enjoy personally. I'd suggest you give the tenchu games a try at some point, my favourites are fatal shadows and wrath of heaven for the ps2. They do have the issue of having a very outdated control scheme. but nothing one can't get used to. Unlike the tenchu games for the PS1, they really control like ass. Tenchu is also made by Fromsoft, so if you wanna see what kind of games fromsoft did before they decided to do nothing but dark souls with slight variation than that's a good place to start.

[@bojanpetrovic6115]

This games are awesome so is Styx and Styx 2 😂

[@thedango6890]

Aragami 1 is good in its own right, aragmi 2 follows close in tenchu stealth assassins. Play tenchu 1 2 and 3 there was a decent remake/reboot for xbox gen2 console that is worthwhile as well. Those are the best stealth games ever, i will die on this hill until someone creates a true successor. Yes aragami 2 is great but only in spirit, its still no tenchu

[@insygnia_]

psst... Give "Shadow Tactics : Blades of Shogun" a try. 🖖

[@MediaKitGaming]

I’ve played all the Mimimi games. Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun is still my favorite of theirs.

[@keyay1239]

hey u sound like Omni-man from Invincible

[@MediaKitGaming]

J. K. Simmons?! That's a hell of a compliment! He's legendary. “Not Quite my Tempo.” I don't agree, but I'll take the compliment anyway!

[@alextherussian9933]

I was willing to let it go that you thought Aragami 2 was better than Aragemi 1. But you lost me once you said Black Flag was bad compared to Odyssey. It's probably the age gap and new generation coming in, but Black Flag was considered a pinnacle of Assassin Creed's game with gameplay and graphics that even modern games are struggling to replicate, never mind surpass. Odyssey is considered the be the beginning of Open World Ubisoftication of games, and hardly in a right direction. The idea that your backstab doesn't kill the target because your arbitrary level number above your head is not greater than their head is everything that is wrong with Ubisoft gaming in the first place. Have a good day, sir. Hurumph.

[@Thundernoob98]

I’m gonna check out both games but you deserve jail time for skipping the cutscenes ☠️☠️☠️

[@MediaKitGaming]

LOL… fair.

[@derekdrake8706]

"Black Flag does not feel good after Odyssey" Other way around imo. Black Flag was great fun, Odyssey was a boring checklist simulator.

[@MediaKitGaming]

Everyone's entitled to their own... I won’t take that from you. But lemme ask. Which one did you play first? BF or Odyssey?

[@thedango6890]

Play tenchu stealth assassins 1 and 2, best grapple and drop down kills ever, you get to unlock various items and weapons and each charcter has unique move sets and slight difference in playstyles, also the story is actually good, most cutscenes are not too long and they also set the scene. Various hidden items also let you replay the levels for more replayabliity as well as ascoring system that allows you to garner more exp to farm for more items to aid in mission. Enemies sre varied and enemy pathing is fairly well thought out and the ai for the time was decently done as well.