The 2011 Showdown. Stacatto vs. Prodigy vs. Platypus

This is a showdown of the entry model 2011 world. We took out a Stacatto P, Springfield Prodigy, and the new to market Stealth Arms Platypus for a range day to see which one would come out on top.

[@kellhound7227]

So I ordered my platypus before seeing this video, while looking at both the other two pistols. The amount of customization is mind blowing, and the fact that you can use Glock 17 mags is a big selling point.

[@MrUhlster]

Price, customization, and mag reliability tip heavy to the Platy…

[@txarms]

Agreed

[@POPJack1717]

That name ruins it for me🤣🤣🤣

[@donwelchmusic]

Nah man staccato mags are reliable. They haven’t had any issues since the gen 3 mags. I got 38k rounds in a staccato p. When someone does that with a platty I’ll change my mind. I have shot all of them and the staccato is ten times better. The staccato they are shooting is the 2020 version. The prodigy is just trash in my opinion. I’d rather shoot a canik 😂

[@gleamtarrest6310]

​@@POPJack1717thnx POP Jack!

[@ImOldGregg]

The prodigy is 1100 street price… something to consider

[@christopherschmidt836]

Not to mention it’s 50 bucks for optic cut on the plat, full customization at super cheap cost for each modification

[@yatzi1980]

I’ve had my platypus about a week and put 300 or so rounds through it. It’s operates flawlessly. It’s hard not to go down to my range and shoot everyday. Glad I made the call to get one before the wait times got crazy. Commander length all black magwell, short rail and square trigger. Non threaded barrel. It keeps that classic but tactical look.

[@walterlangkowski4723]

Thinking about ordering one now with the new grip and the bull barrel…. Plus there’s no mim parts all tool steel custom serial number options idk it’s really hard to beat just been going back and forth on the commander and the government.

[@justinmoore4088]

I've avoided the double stack 1911 niche until just recently. A family member has a gun buying disease, in that he buys guns, never shoots them, and then I buy them at a muuuuuch reduced price. 😂 I just picked up his 4.25 Prodigy with Dawson Tool-less guide rod. It was unfired, and I grabbed it for nine bills. It's going to be a project gun that I'm going full send on.

[@mitchellbryars9338]

Does the platypus have polymer mag release button? I'm concerned that if it's metal that it will chew up the Glock polymer mags. That's why when you get the shield arms mags for the Glock 43x you have to change the mag release

[@Citizen2ACitizenLLC]

Great video fellas. I have the 4.25 prodigy with some egw and atlas upgrades. I love it. About to start customizing my platypus. Gonna wait a while to get the staccato. They are a tad pricey. Just sub’d. Keep going.

[@LongRangeDesertGroupX]

I bought a 5 inch prodigy knowing it’s not perfect but for $1200 I figured I could swap some parts out and run 200-300 “break-in” rounds through it and get it running perfect. Seems like a hit or miss with them and I’m curious if the guns that are running flawless are newer guns that Springfield has gone through and corrected behind the scenes.

[@BaddFrogg777]

Excellent and fun review on three awesome handguns. Waiting to see how the LIveFree (LFA) Apollo 11 double stack does in action. As well as a review on the New LUAGO ALIEN Black&GOLD Edition with 1911 grip angle.

[@sleigh4019]

Love my LFA gun ..got the g19 size when they were on sale at psa for 499

[@TrumonicTrav]

The Apollo 11 and the one by EAA. Should be right about now for EAA

[@jonn8163]

I got a good 4.25” Prodigy thankfully

[@True_Patriotx]

For 1911/2011 you should ride the safety (keep your thumb on the safety the whole time you are shooting. Using it as a ledge to help control recoil.

[@JohnDoe-mf5sc]

I have to say first no one can reach slide release with primary hand it’s released with secondary hand. Now that that’s out of the way, reputation staccato hands down they have made a killer reputation for crazy reliability under the new staccato name, stealth arms offers a lot of bang for the buck also customization, prodigy is a builder gun. It offers an entry price that allows end user to pay for upgrades and enhancements. I will say I own both the staccato p and 5 inch prodigy. I am happy to report my prodigy now has 10k rounds through it I’ve had 2 malfunction both were with in the first 500 rounds failure to feed. But I have completely gone through and tuned my prodigy it is my go to gun for steel challenge. So if you want out of the box performance staccato, if you want to run your Glock mags or are 2011 curious platypus, if you want a project and plan on getting machine work or other custom work done prodigy. But the prodigy can run in stock configuration I ran mine stock for about 2,500 rounds (2 range trips) just to prove it can be reliable just takes some know how, remember 2011s are not entry level gun they require the user to have a strong working knowledge of the gun. They aren’t Glocks where any Tom dick or harry that can load a mag can maintain it. It takes a strong working knowledge of the 2011 platform. Diagnosing nuances of failures tuning parts, hand firing parts, tuning mags ect.

[@ridehi8083]

to your point of "no one can reach the slide release" as a lefty, it can be done.

[@0v417]

i’m lefty and never use ambi slide release or secondary hand. my trigger finger always reaches slide releases just fine.

[@technoburst6719]

I got a Prodigy 4.25 and i love mine.

[@albertogorrin2860]

I agree, with reservations on the last comment. If your going to use the Springfield as a war gun where long distance use is your goal, change some of the MIM inners. Good points thanks.

[@jeffkronemeyer1541]

Dynamite video concept, you guys must be big fans of The Humble Marksman!

[@stevenlewis6781]

If I had bought a prodigy and then saw the platypus, I’d be pissed. It’s pretty shameful that a company like Springfield can put out a product that is defective. The Platypus is a game changer. I put money down on one a few weeks ago. The fact that you can configure it exactly how you want from the factory makes everything else look like a ford model T. Henry Ford said you can have it in any color you want as long as it’s black.

[@MochiMoose]

Well the Platypus looks like a contender. To someone who is looking at getting into the 2011 market, don’t discount the prodigy based on this comparison. if you are already familiar with 1911s and working on 1911s, my buddy has a Prodigy which worked just fine out of the box, decent shooter but he worked on his himself, replaced a couple MIM parts and the extractor, did his own trigger job, and now for the price of a Platypus, he has a solid 3lb trigger, still zero failure Prodigy. Grip is great, as they stated in the video. It’s still a good option.

[@lurtiskoe]

havent even added one to cart but i got like 4 different platypus designs saved. all guns should be this cool to spec out.

[@sigxm5thumb]

Thank you they absolutely nailed it with the gun customs

[@miked3392]

I bought the Prodigy thinking I was going to have to change parts and do all kinds of upgrades to it and even possibly send it back to Springfield. I took it to the range and put about 400 rounds on the first trip out and not only was it flawless but probably the most accurate 9mm I own, granted I do not own a stacatto or any 3k - 5k pistol. The trigger was fine again maybe not a 5k dollar pistol trigger but very nice. The prodigy looks better than the stacatto and definitely looks better than a platypus. After a trip to the range I decided not to do anything to the prodigy other than the red dot. The 4.25 looks better, the grip is better, and shoots just as good as anything Ive shot including Stacatto. Don' tlisten to KZbin reviews. Go out and shoot one and then make a decision. I might change out MIM parts eventually , but why they work great for now.

[@infidel24]

I'd like to see a newer prodigy vs the one you have out there. Just to see if Springfield has made the necessary changes to make it reliable. I've thought several time's about buying one and just working through the issue's with it.

[@jwb4bb]

This is what I did, bought for $1300 since there was all the bad buzz and sent it to SA, works great now! It's my first 2011, so I'm sure an expert could tell the difference, but for me$2700 is out of the question. Maybe I'll upgrade later, but for now this basic boy has got himself a great shooter.

[@Sinsofcarolina]

@@jwb4bbpicked my 5” Prodigy up Mother’s Day weekend on sale for $999. Dry fired and lubricated the hell out of it for about 1000 reps before I got it to the range. 0 issues, very accurate, great trigger, and minimal recoil. Like you, this is the most I’m willing to spend on a handgun so I’m not an expert on “high end” or custom 1911/2011s but this is a quality production firearm in my experience

[@paulhowe5602]

My Prodigy was 1520 out the door with an optic, it had some ftf's in the first 100 rounds and has ran smooth ever since. I can't wait for my Platypus, mine came out @1685.

[@geoffreygrant6833]

My platypus was just over 1800. However its ridiculous as far asbthe color way on it and is maybe my favorite gun. I sold my prodigy after getting it. My wife also has one we call the unicorn poop gun

[@BrainySteez]

Nice vid Matt! Impeccable timing as I’m looking at getting a 2011 myself. It sucks the Prodigy didn’t work out, I seriously wanted one and, aesthetically, it speaks to me the most. And sadly there’s plenty of negative feedback and reviews on the Prodigy. Seriously considering the Platypus now.

[@txarms]

Yeah it’s been a great gun and I’ve really enjoyed it so far. I will be getting another one for myself soon. We’re a Stealth Arms dealer too so let us know if we can help get you set up with your perfect gun customized for you.

[@terrence946]

I'm a owner of a Prodigy 4.25 and I would recommend it. The out of battery in these guns is mostly caused by not oiling it after 500rds. Keep it oiled and maintain and its a great gun. I have had 1 failure to go into battery like you seen after around 525 rds and that was right out of the box. Cleaned and oiled and 300rds in now no failures of any kind.

[@1dyno56]

My Prodigy has been great. I did have issues with one 17 rd magazine. Other than that it has been flawless.

[@gunrightsmafia9867]

Save 500 more and get the staccato or get the prodigy and send it back to springfield and hope it's reliable!!! It's a hit and miss, but for 1500, I would like my shit to work straight out the box!!!

[@yockhunter]

Why isn’t the Bill Armory never involved in these types of videos? It would serve as a better comparison to the Prodigy and Platypus in terms of price point and shootability which is NOT a word

[@eabdic1]

Probably because of availability. I’ve seen plenty Stacattos and Prodigies for sell but rarely and Bul Armory SAS Tacs on the shelves. I own a SAS Tac and love it but it was hard to come by. My shop got one in and had it for a good while and I got it for a good discount. Meanwhile prodigy and Stacattos are always coming back in stock on shelves. At least that’s my opinion on the matter

[@wehrewulf]

B U L, not Bill.

[@ironmonkey1512]

@@eabdic1 If they are that hard to get (which they are) think about the difficulty of parts and service as well...

[@eabdic1]

@@ironmonkey1512 parts aren’t bad, you can just get after market parts from EGW or Dawson Precision. I did that for my prodigy when a part went bad and changed out a few others.

[@alementary4065]

Guess I got lucky. My Prodigy has been flawless. Liked it well enough I think I spent the money on EGW and AGW internals, which is the only area it lags behind the Staccato. And I prefer the cleaner look of the Prodigy.

[@gcswift2]

Me too. In the +2,000 rounds, I've put through it, maybe (MAYBE!!!) 3 or 4 times it did something unexpected. And, I'm pretty sure that was in its first box of ammo. I LOVE shooting it, I'm at the range at least once a week, and it's not because of the cute cashier. I'm coming up to the point where the gun price and ammo price are switching places for higher expenses. Aside from the toolless guide rod, it's stock

[@alementary4065]

@@gcswift2 Man, spend the money to upgrade the internals. You will be AMAZED at how good this pistol is. Or, can be, with a bit of massaging.

[@Bertg1982]

Who wants to spend 2500 on a gun and then spend 1000 on magazines? The platypus using Glock mags is huge.

[@rolandtimario2362]

No bullarmory????

[@3PercentNeanderhal]

Ordered the Platypus 2 days ago...now it's the wait that's bothering me.

[@gottalikenick]

Are you still waiting? I’m about to order but slightly hesitant

[@user-cu6km6hq5r]

Don't make sense. You willing to spend $2500 for the staccato but you are refusing to spend $60 magazine? I am 1911 and 2011 guy so I will definitely like them all 3 period no questions.

[@Grodd70]

Without a doubt if I was in the market for a 2011 pistol it would be the Platypus. You go on their web sight and can customize the gun in all kinds of colors and options. The fact that it takes Glock mags which are abundant and super cheap. I am pretty sure you could even use a Glock 18 mag at 33 rounds. I have friends that own Stacatto and they have great outstanding customer service. But I think the Platypus just makes sense.

[@XxCrankyMoosexX]

The Platypus is definitely the winner for me, and the Staccato is still probably the best entry level. However, the Prodigy is $1,275 at nearly all local dealers here in Phoenix, and various websites online. It now seems pretty reasonable for a double stack 1911 to need some break in, and TLC time while being a full $1k less than an optic cut Staccato.

[@traeucity6087]

I still shoot with irons; and God willing, I always will.

[@kennethwalton5582]

Unfortunately, for the Prodigy, when you buy a Glock, you’re only spending about $500-$600 for the firearm. After you add your “improvements” you may spend another $500 or $600, and end up with a grand total no more than $1200. Versus the Prodigy that starts out at $1450 and STILL needs additional upgrades to make it worth having. The Platypus is a much better deal for the money.

[@typheran1]

spring field 1911 operator is an amazing gun.

[@politicalpolarbear]

Good video and topic but too meandering in your discussions. I'd either edit the video down or focus your discussions on the topic at the moment. Don't script it, but keep it short and to the point. Also, humor can be really tough if it's forced. This humor kind of felt like that and thus didn't feel natural. I liked the video regardless so I hope you keep evolving!

[@PlatybBad]

I found a slightly used 4.25 prodigy for 1100$ , replaced all mim parts, brazos ignition kit, new trigger, new injector, holoson red dot, aluminum magwell, and send it off and got the slide and barrel v8 ported, this thing feels like a 22 when you shoot it and it’s been 100% reliable. Absolutely love it, after ALL that I’m still less than 2k for a 2011 style pistol that shoot flatter than the 4000$ staccato XC

[@JustPopz1]

In your dreams . Maybe a staccato p but definitely not an xc

[@PlatybBad]

@@JustPopz1 I can assure you, my v8 ported prodigy shoots lighter and flatter than the XC, I’ve shot 2 different XCs , granted I didn’t have my prodigy done at that point so it wasn’t a side by side but I can assureeeeee you, the v8 porting is insane and is on par/better than XC from my perspective, specially for nearly 3k less ,

[@PlatybBad]

@@JustPopz1 I wish we could post videos in the comments, if I could afford a staccato I would of definitely purchased one but after getting my slide and barrel back from getting ported I can justify the price of an XC anymore, I would like to get a P and send it off to get ported though, I bet it would be amazing

[@PlatybBad]

@@JustPopz1 DSC gunworks is the company that does the v8 porting, check them out if u ever want to get something ported, the difference it makes far exceeded anything I could have expected . Super clean work

[@ChrisSullins]

I got the Heritage P for 3 Grand but now regret buying it after seeing this video. I didn't know about the Platypus and customizations and price.

[@goatslifepartdeux5492]

I use the less expensive prodigy mags in my staccato for the range. Save expensive when I need it to matter….. my next one is a platypus

[@Shooter11B]

Platypus for the win. Easy choice. It is by far the superior option based on price, magazine, reliability, and MAGAZINE. No brainer.

[@navyvet7138]

As a fellow Big bone Texan I know what you meant by the sweaty hands. Its hot down here

[@viking3487]

My platypus came out at $1,950 or $1,980 can’t remember exactly but it’s custom to me so id rather that than a complete factory gun

[@sigxm5thumb]

What colors did you get I always hated basic black guns

[@viking3487]

@@sigxm5thumb lol I originally went with a red white and blue just to have a cool collection piece, but I changed it last minute to a grey ish color i dont remember the name of it but it’s like the old Nintendo color and black accents, it came out awesome, everyone likes it so far

[@jbsack]

If you are having issues with a Staccato, Id be inclined to bet on you limp wristing it. The issues with the Prodigy are related to those crappy Duramags. Have both the 5 and 4.25” and have put 3000 rounds through each with zero issues. But I used the Staccato mags from my XC.

[@PandemicGameplay]

how does someone have issues with a Staccato? like I don't even understand how. They shoot pretty much any ammo you throw at them.

[@MochiMoose]

Yeah, I don’t know how Duramag sht the bed on the prodigy mags… their aluminum and stainless AR mags are top notch as far as my experience goes. My buddy has the same issue with the magazines, and so do I, since I bought a couple to run in my XC, but I guess it’s that classic get what you pay for type deal.

[@garrettstiles7808]

I also don’t own a Glock but have Glock mags, ha. Big selling point for the Platypus for those of us in ban states who have grandfathered mags.

[@DavidL.78613]

a group of Platypuses is called a "Paddle" btw

[@barneylinet6602]

Re: Prodigy.....sounds like it wanted a drop of oil here and there. I run new firearms wet with oil during break-in and i had zero issues with my Prodigy 5 in..

[@user-un5my5bw4j]

Your not supposed to be able to work the slide release one handed with your shooting hand. Your supposed to use your support hand thumb to hit the slide release.

[@countslick2924]

Very fitting the prodigy jammed first shot. lol mine does not fuckin work. Selling it soon

[@geraldgonzalez5360]

My Prodigy is 1300 + rounds and it runs flawless, never had a single issue just fyi.

[@alqiii4361]

Slamming the slide forward empty like you did can also introduce trigger issues in 1911/2011s

[@isidrosevier1125]

Im debating on getting a staccato p or a bul armory sas tac ii. But, i will say i do absolutely love how my tanfoglio defiant stock master shoots. Such a dream to shoot, slide cycles like glass, trigger is pretty light, recoil is minimal, super accurate, not to mention it is a beautiful pistol.

[@BaddFrogg777]

BUL ARMORY is awesome. Love them but their magazines are proprietary. Its keeping many away from purchasing their excellent handgun.

[@isidrosevier1125]

@@BaddFrogg777 yea that's the one complaint many have. That doesn't bother me too much. 2-3 mags is usually enough for me at the range. As I usually take more than 2-3-4-5 different guns when I go.

[@TommcatTomcat]

I love watching him flag the shit out of his camera man.😂

[@Talishar]

When doing a comparative review, you have to make sure you come into the review with the full history of all compared to firearms. You only really knew everything about the Platypus. The other two were complete wildcards with the Prodigy a complete mystery. We don't know how much they've been messed with and now it makes the review and comparison a bit suspect. Especially the Prodigy and they have the reputation now as baby's first 1911 gunsmithing project so there's no telling if that gun's been messed with internally which induced those failures you had.

[@paulh6101]

Hows the platy holding up

[@txarms]

Fantastic...I talked with the owner of Stealth Arms at Shot Show last month. They have some new models coming out as well with bull barrels and some different grip textures. I'm getting ready to put in an order for another personal model soon!

[@paulh6101]

@txarms yeah that's what I'm waiting for. Bet lead time are gona go up when upgrades appear. Hopefully grip texture and bul barrel don't exceed 2k...

[@paulh6101]

Updates are live. Just ordered mine.

[@TexasCorgiGun]

Staccato magazines are not relaible, i sold mine.

[@bambamthecamocowboy9037]

👍🏻Platypus🔫👌

[@seegarsmkr]

The Pladypus is also about 10 grams less than the C2 which makes it a bit snappier. I think the plural is Pladypussies...just sayin!!🤣

[@Ship-security]

As a left-hander should be the title of the video. JK

[@jadslash]

Let's flag the camera guy constantly

[@txarms]

Yes, the tripod was terrified…

[@AI-xe5jr]

Loved how he tossed the Prodigy into the woods lol I did that too! hahahah!

[@specialperson170]

While most prodigys arent reliable remington ammo sucks

[@durwoodrobison7800]

I've been researching double stack 1911's for a little bit. I've got two Springfield guns that are rock solid right now, a 2001 era 1911 Loaded model with well over 10000 rounds through it that I can shoot a single, ragged hole in a target with, and a XD-M Elite 10mm 4.5" with a Holosun that I also love. A tack driver for sure. That said, I want to like the Prodigy. I can walk into a gun store and walk out with it same day, which is a big draw, but there are more reliability concerns than there are not, and I want my gun reliable. So, I looked at the Staccato, I looked at the RIA doublestack 9mm 1911 (I voted that one out because I had a RIA 10mm that was a jam-o-matic), and I simply can't afford a $4000 pistol, so that limits my choice. Then I started seeing the Platypus, and I think it will scratch my itch. I'm not a competition shooter, I just want high capacity, reliability (My Springfield Loaded is 100% reliable), and the Glock mags are nice as well. So I ordered a Platypus yesterday, and I can't wait to get it. That natural point I get with a 1911, along with a superior trigger over a Glock or even my XD-M will be VERY nice. The XD-M will probably still get Winter duty carry, but that Platypus will be a great sidearm, and I know the bullets will go where I point them, something I'm not so sure about with my Glock, even with an optic.

[@skiboz1527]

Omg I can’t with u buys nymore

[@skiboz1527]

Omg, the Springfield company is a good company but…..that prodigy is a pile of u know what unfortunately I think they went back to the drawing board with that. The platypus is a great gun for the money and the staccato is reliable and runs super smooth the platypus can run next to the staccato with no problems . And my god man take that tape of the grip on the staccato. And staccato is not entry level 18:17

[@XxCrankyMoosexX]

Staccato is *the* standard/mainstream entry level 2011. The only other inexpensive doublestack 1911s that are truly worth comparing to a Staccato -- are the Platypus which is brand new, and Bul Armory's offerings. Can you go cheaper? Sure, but that doesn't take Staccato away from entry level, it just puts it on the more expensive side of entry level 2011s.

[@XiledSoviet]

Staccato is entry level into the 2011 world and your gateway drug to other 2011s like Nighthawk or Atlas

[@skiboz1527]

@@XiledSoviet true the nighthawk and atlas is a step up that will be my drug of choice when I can afford it

[@keithferguson1299]

This is so laughably biased that when I watched it I thought, "Man, this guy sounds like a Stealth Arms dealer". Lo and behold, the comments revealed the truth. 😂

[@txarms]

It's weird that I also deal in Springfield and Stacatto too...

[@keithferguson1299]

​@txarms ya, I get it man. Gotta peddle the new hotness, but at least try to hide the bias.

[@badengrishSi]

Haters gonna hate?

[@txarms]

@@keithferguson1299 could be portrayed as confirmation bias since I do own the Platypus…however the other 2 people there said basically the same thing. The other dealer there (also a dealer for all 3 brands) said the same thing with no skin in the game since he doesn’t own any of those.

[@heyhayhay247]

@@keithferguson1299 aw, did they not like your favorite gun?

[@katana258]

intro noise really s--ks .. its just a gun video ..

[@VenableRacing]

I have all 3 of these, and 40 years experience shooting 1911’s You both are obviously anti Prodigy and it showed your negative bias. All 3 are decent guns,. If you gave me a 2500 buck budget , I would buy the Prodigy and take the 1200 buck left over and do a bit of work , it would then put the base P to shame. Or buy a spec’s out platy and take the extra 500 and get a nice optic … The P is over priced for what it does. So it would be my last choice before you jump on me and my opinion. Watch back your video and tell me you did not have a negative preconceived bias against the Prodigy . If the failures was only 1 mag and 1 type of ammo, to be fair, it could have been a damaged mag, bad ammo or a dirty or dry gun,

[@standjos25]

You should probably do your homework before reviewing 3 guns and really only know much about one. Dude in camo shorts shouldn’t have even been part of the review he had zero input.

[@sleigh4019]

As a fellow Mainer who hung out with Texas guys ..this is how it goes both sides perplexed by the other but creepy similar which is why it works ..lol .. Some love from Bangor guys

[@sikwatikenshin1060]

Wow! Another BS review to create drama to have more views. I would not waste money on a platypus. The only positive reviews I saw are the glock owners that never owned 2011's. Prodigy is actually the best. If you get the gen 2 or send it to SA to get it fixed and tuned. For $1200 you cant go wrong. The prodigy feels better shotting than the P. The only changes I made is the EGW ignition kit. Im even thinking of getting the 5 instead of the XL. Since there no point getting the XL when I already have the XC.

[@user-sg9du1jr5i]

if you want a gun that uses glock mags buy a glock.

[@HDBujutsu1775]

Worst pistol review I’ve seen yet🤦🏻