The 2021 Apple iPad Pro is definitely a computer NOW!

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ShortCircuit

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3 жыл бұрын

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Whoa! The M1 processor and Mini LED make their way into Apple's newest iPad Pro! Riley opens it up and wants to tell you his first impressions.
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@xlovedrivenx
@xlovedrivenx 3 жыл бұрын
Somehow he's looking at every camera and none of the cameras at the same time. Impressive.
@og_ocassions
@og_ocassions 3 жыл бұрын
You wanna know what’s also impressive, he activated my Siri and made her take a screen shot... 🤯
@waa6995
@waa6995 3 жыл бұрын
@@og_ocassions you wanna know what's more impressive. This segue to our sponsor
@og_ocassions
@og_ocassions 3 жыл бұрын
@@waa6995 ridge wallet wants to redefine the wallet...
@karthickshankar1527
@karthickshankar1527 3 жыл бұрын
@@og_ocassions ..with its compact frame and RFID blocking plates.
@reborrns5410
@reborrns5410 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing 😭🤣🤣
@the_ur3an_myth
@the_ur3an_myth 3 жыл бұрын
Next video title of an iPad Pro is going to be: *The iPad Pro is a really real computer NOW!*
@og_ocassions
@og_ocassions 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, and another off topic one is gonna be: Riley activated a kid’s Siri and make her take a screenshot!?
@RaiedHasan
@RaiedHasan 3 жыл бұрын
You madlad you did it
@og_ocassions
@og_ocassions 3 жыл бұрын
@@RaiedHasan lol, credits to Riley from the Ltt community activating my Siri! Lol
@skiorsnowboard
@skiorsnowboard 3 жыл бұрын
@@og_ocassions how many times are you going to post this on a comment? What a loser you are, not getting enough attention from your mommy and daddy?
@ruhtam8971
@ruhtam8971 3 жыл бұрын
This guy manages to keep that smile even when he's speaking. Like a fricking psychopath
@steveman1982
@steveman1982 3 жыл бұрын
I would trust him with my closet of sharp items and Elvis memorabilia.
@laszlob3683
@laszlob3683 3 жыл бұрын
Just ambitious and its good
@shanedoesyoutube8001
@shanedoesyoutube8001 3 жыл бұрын
Remember what Nick Light said about Riley cooking the quick bits out of severed fingers 2 years ago in the roast of Linus Sebastian sponsored by madrinas coffee???
@ruhtam8971
@ruhtam8971 3 жыл бұрын
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 wow he truly is a psychopath
@Mirror126
@Mirror126 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm so am I a psychopath
@alexbathurst5752
@alexbathurst5752 2 жыл бұрын
"They just throw M1 chips at the wall and see what sticks!" ...Riley just exposed homeOS!
@elismart13
@elismart13 3 жыл бұрын
the d brand skin actually looked good one of the best ive seen from them.
@fabriziocontreras8831
@fabriziocontreras8831 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah fr it actually looks good wtf
@sponion3648
@sponion3648 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@sponion3648
@sponion3648 3 жыл бұрын
@I care yeah you're a bot
@danielelves2949
@danielelves2949 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could find out where they're sold
@Rosa_AI
@Rosa_AI 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielelves2949 dbrand twitter said "coming soon" and that was posted may 27th
@SRC267
@SRC267 3 жыл бұрын
Dolphin the GameCube emulator now has native support for the M1 chip and it runs beast on this chip.
@AdmiralBison
@AdmiralBison 3 жыл бұрын
No, it doesn’t work with 14.4 unless you do serious workaround sideloading OR jailbreak. iOS is holding back the iPad Pro from being anywhere near being a computer.
@colby_ybloc
@colby_ybloc 3 жыл бұрын
emulation is definitely one of the best use case for this tablet
@ar_maan05
@ar_maan05 3 жыл бұрын
@@AdmiralBison isn’t 14.6 the latest?
@FutureKLX300SMowner
@FutureKLX300SMowner 3 жыл бұрын
@@AdmiralBison he didn't say ipad though... he said m1
@selven08
@selven08 3 жыл бұрын
​@@FutureKLX300SMowner In the comment section of a review of an iPad Pro...
@Jasonzvo
@Jasonzvo 3 жыл бұрын
"you see that airpods over there?" "slap an m1 into it" "now its a computer"
@colinhoward2200
@colinhoward2200 3 жыл бұрын
That is hilarious and on the money :D
@jpt3675
@jpt3675 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha... This made my day.
@nazmulhuda3262.
@nazmulhuda3262. 2 жыл бұрын
Huh... Even the magic keyboard needs that😏
@nazmulhuda3262.
@nazmulhuda3262. 2 жыл бұрын
@Krishnaprasad Mokshagundam Apple: Oh yeah... COMPUTER!!!
@rogithkumar3508
@rogithkumar3508 2 жыл бұрын
M1 AirTags in 2030
@jaykparikh37
@jaykparikh37 3 жыл бұрын
Riley’s incredible ability to sound like he has no clue what he’s talking about is pretty charming
@timfriday9106
@timfriday9106 2 жыл бұрын
it really is affable. He sounds confident and you know he's smart but he comes off so goofy and silly it's not arrogant or didactic/pedantic like how some techtubers come across.
@rossharper1983
@rossharper1983 2 жыл бұрын
Comes across childish and annoying to me
@timfriday9106
@timfriday9106 2 жыл бұрын
@@rossharper1983 your youtube comments?
@rossharper1983
@rossharper1983 2 жыл бұрын
@@timfriday9106 If that's your opinion of my comment, then yes, to you. Same as it's how Riley comes across to me. We are all entitled to our own opinions of hosts, ya know
@melgross
@melgross 2 жыл бұрын
It’s because he has no clue, most of the time. He’s also a copy of Linus, who is also annoying and sarcastic.
@existentialselkath1264
@existentialselkath1264 3 жыл бұрын
It could be the most powerful computer in the world, but until it uses a desktop os it doesn't really matter
@taktuscat4250
@taktuscat4250 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah most soc are capable but shackled by mobile OS which focuses on ease of use😐
@Raja995mh33
@Raja995mh33 3 жыл бұрын
Nonsense.
@jarjarbinks2105
@jarjarbinks2105 3 жыл бұрын
There is nothing stopping them from making a touch friendly version of Mac OS and slapping on the thing. Then it would be a real computer. But that’s not going happen because apple. we’re lucky the iPad even has mouse support.
@ahyaan2552
@ahyaan2552 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raja995mh33 no but it actually holds it back a lot
@mihirsrivastava8472
@mihirsrivastava8472 3 жыл бұрын
@@jarjarbinks2105 I don't think they're going to downgrade macOS to the iPad; rather, I think that they will add touchscreens to Macs in the future as an additional add on and improve iPad OS to the point where it is a good desktop OS but built for touch.
@DanielTubul
@DanielTubul 3 жыл бұрын
couple of corrections: 2020 iPad pro had the first LiDAR sensor 2020 iPad pro had USB-C only.
@jesus2621
@jesus2621 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you mr nobodyask
@DpspGamer
@DpspGamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@jesus2621 I'm happy to know what he pointed out.
@peanutismint
@peanutismint 3 жыл бұрын
As a long time Apple tablet user (since the iPad 2), I’m still longing for the day when the iPad really IS a computer and I can leave the house with just my iPad instead of a laptop. Sadly, Apple seem to have very little interest in making the changes required to make this a reality. Instead they seem more concerned with trying to force a change in perception of what actually constitutes a computer. Just look how long it took them to support a mouse/trackpad, and even now it’s still limited. “Should we put things like USB ports and an OS with integrated file support on our next iPad? No, let’s just try and convince people they don’t do things to make it a real computer…“ 🤦🏻‍♂️
@Kefford666
@Kefford666 3 жыл бұрын
I look forward to the day they add multi-user support. Face ID only works for one person like it’s a big iPhone. But iMacs and MacBooks let multiple people sign in with their fingerprints or passwords.
@sonofage
@sonofage 3 жыл бұрын
if they do this, it could spell the end of their MacBook lineup, so I doubt they'll ever really do this. The more likely ones to do it is probably on Android's side, and if it gains some traction, Apple will take it and say they did it first, as per the norm, but I could be wrong. I completely forgot about the file system access on the iPad/iPhone. Most useless file system I've ever used, but i guess if you're just saving your pictures, it's easier to do? IDK, it seems Apple doesn't trust their fanbase to figure things out whereas, Windows/Android/Linux let's you be the judge. Linux, even more so, to say the least, haha. Even as an Admin for Apple Business Management, you're not in full control without Apple allowing it , EVEN though you purchase the devices from them. it's strange to me. from a system admin's perspective, i prefer Windows in this case but i also dislike Azure's sudden control UI changes on a whim. Thanks Microsoft. Anyway, Why doesn't Apple give more access to their file system on their mobile devices? I was about to buy an s7 Tab (samsung) but decided against it after i realize that for now, i'm mostly stuck at home and i won't require to go out as much as i once did but while not all apps are build for the tablet experience on Android, at least, the file system is open to me, without root nor some complex means of usage and it's almost like , what i can think can be done on Android, potentially already exists on it. I'm not advocating for using Android's tablet Vs Apple's. I know that ship has sailed for most people and i personally don't care enough to argue but if Apple allowed some extra stuff, without root -- then perhaps i'll give them a chance in the tablet space.... But i'm not the target demographic i guess.
@cybercery5271
@cybercery5271 2 жыл бұрын
@@sonofage when has apple taken anything and said they did it first? They always say "the first in an iPad" , or "the faster ever in an iPad", they rarely mention anyone else.
@mikehawk120
@mikehawk120 2 жыл бұрын
@@cybercery5271 look at all their lawsuits. Too many to list and I forgot them.
@malikbooker9187
@malikbooker9187 2 жыл бұрын
If it was a computer then people would not have to go an buy a macbook, it would hurt their greedy little pockets
@iRA_mkb
@iRA_mkb 3 жыл бұрын
“They are throwing it at the wall and say: that’s a computer now” Best Apple company policy definition.
@sponion3648
@sponion3648 3 жыл бұрын
It is me the wall. I have gained sentience after apple threw the M1 at me.
@Smart.Potato
@Smart.Potato 3 жыл бұрын
Hi wall.
@ADeeSHUPA
@ADeeSHUPA 2 жыл бұрын
@@Smart.Potato ないす
@arndhawa
@arndhawa 3 жыл бұрын
They’re really milking out the money it costs to license crab rave.
@zeekjones1
@zeekjones1 2 жыл бұрын
Spreading the gospel; it's good exposure for the creators. Thus a viral meme of an audio test was born upon the lands.
@richardhunter9779
@richardhunter9779 2 жыл бұрын
The author has allowed people to use it freely. What a Chad.
@ADeeSHUPA
@ADeeSHUPA 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardhunter9779 uP
@TannerSwizel
@TannerSwizel 2 жыл бұрын
Apple: "The iPad is now more like a computer" Also Apple: "What's a computer?"
@robinarora8137
@robinarora8137 2 жыл бұрын
Only Laptop or Desktop form is not a computer, iPad is an alternative computer for many people now, as the OS evolves more and more people will not need a laptop in the future….
@TannerSwizel
@TannerSwizel 2 жыл бұрын
@@robinarora8137 The lexical semantics around "computer" have become a bit ambiguous in the last century. Abacuses, slide rulers, pocket calculators, and iPads are all by classical definition a computer. I know Apple was making a statement of how we don't call every variation of computer a "computer", and devices we commonly call computers today could potentially be replaced from all daily life in the future. On a deep level Apple's assertion with the phrase made sense, but on the surface it became a huge meme that I and many other people still find funny and barely believable even today, nearly 4 years after the commercial in question aired.
@robinarora8137
@robinarora8137 2 жыл бұрын
@@TannerSwizel it’s simply common sense… while if you want to have fun doing memes , go for it… I use my time doing more serious stuff with some light fun here or there ….
@TannerSwizel
@TannerSwizel 2 жыл бұрын
@@robinarora8137 disagreements on lexical semantics are not common sense. Also, you and I probably come from different cultural backgrounds with different perspectives and different senses of humor which don't have a common ground for sense either. I spent 30 seconds writing my OP that I still find funny, and wasted 3 minutes of my time defending myself from someone that only cares about their more proper sense of humor. Go blow your holier than thou "common sense" up someone else's ass, instead blowing it up mine like I'm some good for nothing unenlightened and inane creature.
@robinarora8137
@robinarora8137 2 жыл бұрын
@@TannerSwizel yea I get some idea about your background reading your comments full of hate, aggressive, anger filled, and basically negative commenting everywhere … No need to waste your time replying this comment any more, unless you choose to do so, your life your choice… Bye
@davidnotonstinnett
@davidnotonstinnett 3 жыл бұрын
“how’s crypto these days?” I feel personally attacked
@nielagi5029
@nielagi5029 2 жыл бұрын
@Laik Tavuk Döner Only hurts people who are dumb enough to buy at all-time-high prices
@nielagi5029
@nielagi5029 2 жыл бұрын
@Laik Tavuk Döner The money needs to come from somewhere meaning you need to be smarter than the others...
@LapisPebble
@LapisPebble 2 жыл бұрын
@@nielagi5029 The real people laughing are the ones who are holding out for when prices inevitably skyrocket
@AmperahGaming
@AmperahGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Crypto is on sale, time to buy more. That’s at least what I’m doing with those dips :)
@nielagi5029
@nielagi5029 2 жыл бұрын
@@AmperahGaming +30% in a week is not "on sale"
@sitikantha7ds
@sitikantha7ds 3 жыл бұрын
"They are just throwing it at the wall" Apple: That's "iWall". The best wall we have built to date. Now give us your Kidneys.
@Deinobi
@Deinobi 3 жыл бұрын
KiDNEYS
@olivercuddeford8920
@olivercuddeford8920 3 жыл бұрын
If anyone other than apple could make a competitive tablet experience, maybe they’d lower the price. Until then they have no incentive to 😂
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar 3 жыл бұрын
And best of all, no windows!
@a.millernephithegood
@a.millernephithegood 3 жыл бұрын
@@TalesOfWar why would you need windows in a walled garden? You're not supposed to be able to leave. Ever.
@impendio
@impendio 3 жыл бұрын
as someone that has been on a 2018 ipad pro as their main computer for almost two years, after the release of the magic keyboard and ipad os 13.4 or whatever it was, yeah, it is 100% a computer. it’s basically the perfect laptop replacement for 90% of people out there that just need a nice screen for content, good touch and intuitive UIs, can take advantage of apple’s continuity and ecosystem and need a decent keyboard and great trackpad for productivity on the go, this thing will write emails, work on your spreadsheets, if you are a creative profesional the pencil is a great alternative for a wacom and way cheaper than their all-in-ones, it is still an ipad with great speakers, great screen and great performance, yes, even the 2018 model is still flawless and why i’m not switching to the 2021 one at all. it is undoubtedly a learning curve to get used to ipad os, and it is not perfect in any way yet, i still need to sit on my desktop every couple of weeks for real cad and that one piece of software i need for work, and the Files app is useable but _not good,_ not even remotely as useable as good old Finder. Is the iPad Pro a real PRO tool for professionals? Not really, you can do a lot with it on the go but really isn’t the 16in do-it-all, weights-a-metric-fuckton, last-three-hours-on-battery, window desktop replacement people think when they think of “professional machine”, but for literally everyone else? Yeah, you can totally do _work_ on it…
@schlurky9710
@schlurky9710 3 жыл бұрын
The normal peak brightness is still 600nits, the same as the previous model. But in HDR (and only in HDR) it can reach 1000nits sustained brightness on the whole screen and 1600nits peak in bright details. Apple really did a lot to mislead with the marketing on their website, you can only find the 600nits spec in their technical specifications and even there it is confusing written.
@palocymasaio
@palocymasaio 9 ай бұрын
ooooOOOH they did not mislead one thing? how pure of them
@CalvinBacon
@CalvinBacon 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta appreciate dbrand for the constant memes. ShortLinus URL is pretty damn funny
@ben-tendo
@ben-tendo 2 жыл бұрын
Given the size of your platform, it would be interesting for you to cover the speed and functionality of the thunderbolt port further. Most sites and KZbinrs are finding insanely slow read/write speeds when using thunderbolt drives compared to USB-C ones. It is surely an OS thing and not hardware, and needs looking at so Apple fix it in future iPadOS updates.
@cletustrainer
@cletustrainer 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to share this with my dad, but there's no way he can take this guy's personality. I like him though.
@abojasem99
@abojasem99 3 жыл бұрын
I like ur dad 👍🏻 me neither
@mfnbpwnz
@mfnbpwnz 3 жыл бұрын
I get that he's Linus' buddy, but he just lacks the charisma of most of the other on camera folks at LTT.
@misham6547
@misham6547 3 жыл бұрын
at least he isn't linus
@abojasem99
@abojasem99 2 жыл бұрын
@@mfnbpwnz tbh it would awesome if the video was an excel table pros and cons and without talking.
@chokes26
@chokes26 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the major difference between the V1 and V2 of the magic keyboard is the Thunderbolt port on the side, otherwise they are pretty much the same
@holidaymail
@holidaymail 3 жыл бұрын
Props to the editor as well! Great cutting
@JNouveau
@JNouveau 3 жыл бұрын
Funny, Riley was like "I don't see the bloom effect" I was like WDYM I can see i... Oh...
@JackieWelles
@JackieWelles 3 жыл бұрын
Yea you can see it because you are watching through the camera, but in person you couldn't.
@theodoros_1234
@theodoros_1234 2 жыл бұрын
@@JackieWelles Or possibly because whatever display they're watching on has bloom.
@clickbaitpro
@clickbaitpro 2 жыл бұрын
@@JackieWelles You can in certain conditions, its not an oled
@Turburki
@Turburki 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Hopefully I’ll be able to upgrade to it in the future~
@tdata545
@tdata545 3 жыл бұрын
That DBRAND SKIN IS NEAT. Glad they finally have decent skins. THOUGH, I wished these companies would sell clear matte skins for those who just want scratch protection.
@shakinfuture2354
@shakinfuture2354 2 жыл бұрын
They do
@freakofnature9580
@freakofnature9580 3 жыл бұрын
Ok I’m kinda an amateur and I don’t know anything about IOS - can a digital artist answer some questions for me? Would I have to worry about file compression on the ipad? Could I edit RAW? Does the IPad version of Photoshop compress images? What are the file size limits / does a large file bog down the system? Does Procreate create vector images? ... basically, is this a smart purchase for a student in digital art/graphic design?
@markus-us1bg
@markus-us1bg 3 жыл бұрын
I want the next short circuit to be shot with the lights out when he is talking like at 5:59 that looked so cool :)
@aroraakshaj70
@aroraakshaj70 3 жыл бұрын
Riley, tell siri to sing you a song. You will be thoroughly impressed
@DrMuFFinMan
@DrMuFFinMan 3 жыл бұрын
The debrand on that Ipad reminded me of my reflective trapper keepers in elementary school around the mid 90's.
@andrewmason9137
@andrewmason9137 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing this needs is the option to boot into Tablet Mode or Desktop Mode.
@largejoe2195
@largejoe2195 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe, while running the same tech as a MacBook, could we emulate windows games? It had that x86 emulation thingy right?. Fallout 4 on a iPad Pro would be so awesome
@CozyAlgorithmCave
@CozyAlgorithmCave 3 жыл бұрын
should be possible with Windows on ARM and its X86_64 Emulation
@32Zn
@32Zn 3 жыл бұрын
@@CozyAlgorithmCave i think the Windows ARM x86_64 is very inefficient (compared to Rosetta2), so even if someone got it working, it would probably not work well
@FascistTrex
@FascistTrex 3 жыл бұрын
I mean there is an osX Fallout4 version
@oksowhat
@oksowhat 3 жыл бұрын
Rosetta 2
@largejoe2195
@largejoe2195 3 жыл бұрын
@@FascistTrex there has to be a way to get it on a ipad
@AstonGryffynn
@AstonGryffynn 3 жыл бұрын
“iPad is a computer now...” I’m afraid I don’t know of any consumer computers with no sideloading.
@osswriter
@osswriter 3 жыл бұрын
Dave .. Dave? I’m afraid I can’t let you do that.
@Charlesb88
@Charlesb88 3 жыл бұрын
There is nothing in the definition of a consumer computer that requires side loading be an option. In the old days you never saw locked down computers due to the fact that early home/micro/personal computers couldn’t be locked down they way the iPad is even if the manufacturer had wanted too. This also led to consumer expecting to have lots of freedom on what they could run on their PC/Micro systems. If was only after the rise of malware and totally crappy software that the idea of a more locked down systems became something consumer would be more tolerant of. The total flood of crap games on the Atari 2600 system helped usher in the video game collapse of 1983. Nintendo responded to this by insisting that their NES console by locked down so that only Nintendo approved game cartridges could be run on the NES. So if you take a broad definition of computer then the Nintendo NES and Sega Genesis/Megadrive and such qualify as “computers” without side-loading. Side loading on a computer is common thing but I never seen it specified as a requirement for calling it a computer, just something few thought to prevent until Apple decided to do so on their iPhone and later iPad as a malware and crap ware prevention method.
@coolbuddyshivam
@coolbuddyshivam 3 жыл бұрын
@@Charlesb88 PC is different from computers. You need side loading for a thing to be called a PC. There is nothing personal about vendor locking. You can't even do whatever you want with device you paid for, in case you get banned you lose all softwares and media you paid for. I fail to understand why does people associate authoritarian rule with security. GNU linux first started with app repository which was the prototype for modern app store, there are hardly any malwares and crapware. Manufacturers blocked side loading for taxing third party developers for profiting off their flock of sheep and for more control on devices. Security was not the main priority. You can easily gain that with decentralisation and open source with other methods as well.
@Charlesb88
@Charlesb88 3 жыл бұрын
@@coolbuddyshivam PC stands for Personal Computer meaning any computer designed to be used by one person at a time as apposed to a mainframe, time-shared computer, or Server. Now if You mean IBM-compatible PC or Wintel PC then yes, by that definition you’d expect side-loading to be a thing but even then it’s not always an option such as with Windows 10 with S Mode turned on so MS has thrown a wrench in your definition PC there too. When I used the term PC, I just meant any Personal Computer regardless of CPU or OS which includes tablets, smart phones, old Power PC Macintosh’s, 80s Microcomputers like the C64 or Sinclair ZX Spectrum. Regardless, Whether it’s locked down or not isn’t in any definition of computer I could find, personal or not. So there is nothing stopping the iPad from being classified as a computer even if it’s not one you might want to use for certain or any tasks.
@winjaywin
@winjaywin 3 жыл бұрын
A computer is a machine that can be programmed to carry out sequences of arithmetic or logical operations automatically. You can program an iPad -- you can make an app in Xcode and test it on your iPad or iPhone. So iOS devices are computers.
@JYDemir
@JYDemir 2 жыл бұрын
"throwing m1 at the wall, that's a computer now" I wouldn't mind a smart wall
@adhilahammed4085
@adhilahammed4085 3 жыл бұрын
“MacBook mini” Me “WHATT”
@2fast4u288
@2fast4u288 3 жыл бұрын
I love Riley's chaotic energy so much lol
@micahalan
@micahalan 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Linus did a follow up on the mini-LED screen on this iPad, like more in-depth with the blooming etc
@ryanmiddlebrooks8133
@ryanmiddlebrooks8133 2 жыл бұрын
They didn’t mention the microphones on this new iPad however in my experience they are absolutely stunning. Not a replacement for a good microphone but for video calls the occasional Music demo maybe even podcasting if you’re trying to get into it and don’t want to spend tons of money already on top of the high priced iPad you just bought, it would work.
@King-zo4vv
@King-zo4vv 3 жыл бұрын
Riley: I can't rhyme😭 *sometime later* After the light is turned on, "JEEZ, LUIS"
@crafter89
@crafter89 3 жыл бұрын
The 2020 iPad Pro doesn’t have Thunderbolt 3! It just has USB 3.2 I think!
@markuskiehl4844
@markuskiehl4844 3 жыл бұрын
You're both wrong. It got USB 4 which is basiclly Thunderbold 3
@contorta960
@contorta960 3 жыл бұрын
@@markuskiehl4844 2020 iPad Pro has only USB C, no thunderbolt 3 or 4. The new iPad Pro has ⚡4 but the 2020 doesn't have 3 or 4. So not wrong
@markuskiehl4844
@markuskiehl4844 3 жыл бұрын
@@contorta960 I meant the 2021 one. Still the new one doesn't have Thunderbold 4. Only Intel Machines got that
@ReQuiem_2099
@ReQuiem_2099 3 жыл бұрын
I'm using a 2nd Gen iPad that is EXACTLY as "computer" as the 2021 iPad, not because of the hardware, but because of the mutated mobile OS pretending (and failing) to approximate a desktop productivity experience. Thunderbolt “could” provide some pretty awesome dongle functionality though.
@EthanJonesEthanJones
@EthanJonesEthanJones 3 жыл бұрын
It counts as a computer if you can use it to RDP into various servers and run VMs on the actual device.
@ChaFairchild
@ChaFairchild 3 жыл бұрын
Where do I get that Damascus steel skin? I don't see it on DBrand's website.
@alotheone
@alotheone 3 жыл бұрын
They say coming soon. They post it on their Instagram page.
@Zombielunchbox
@Zombielunchbox 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i didnt see it either
@aadilpatel8035
@aadilpatel8035 3 жыл бұрын
It's M1 in there, just install MacOs or provide MacOs apps over in M1.
@WUStLBear82
@WUStLBear82 3 жыл бұрын
One thing about iPadOS that currently limits it as a computer is that apps seem to be unable to occupy more than 5gb even on a 16gb iPad Pro. That may be why video renders take longer than might be expected given the same hardware as a MacOS machine. Next version later this year will fix, I hope?
@khimaniz
@khimaniz 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you.
@thatfrick
@thatfrick 3 жыл бұрын
It's really a disservice to call this a laptop when you can't run actual desktop apps.
@ZeroDarknezz
@ZeroDarknezz 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@yokokurama5174
@yokokurama5174 3 жыл бұрын
What are desktop apps? What if apple suddenly dominates desktop market with m1 and these become the new desktop apps?😂 Yeah
@kendokaaa
@kendokaaa 3 жыл бұрын
@@yokokurama5174 You know Apple also sells laptops and desktops right? Apple dominating the market doesn't mean anything for iPad becoming a desktop computer
@Just-View
@Just-View 3 жыл бұрын
Xcode is a desktop app to create mobile or desktop apps. So yeah, desktop apps are still the norm for professional software development.
@DoctorNemmo
@DoctorNemmo 3 жыл бұрын
@@yokokurama5174 Can you program iPad apps on your iPad? Not a computer then, just a glorified phone.
@robertnorris8367
@robertnorris8367 3 жыл бұрын
Me: “Ooh, Apple’s released a new Facebook and Netflix machine, better go buy it.”
@onewisefrog5785
@onewisefrog5785 3 жыл бұрын
maybe not facebook hehehhehehehhehehehehehhehehehehehhehehheheheh
@captain_code
@captain_code 3 жыл бұрын
@@onewisefrog5785hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
@kokoinmars
@kokoinmars 3 жыл бұрын
@@captain_code heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
@moRaaOTAKU
@moRaaOTAKU 3 жыл бұрын
Gimme ur old one lol
@robertnorris8367
@robertnorris8367 3 жыл бұрын
@@moRaaOTAKU sorry already listed it for sale on Gumtree.
@spyhunter6411
@spyhunter6411 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they put the better display in the 11 inch. I've been waiting for the m1 ipad but didn't want the big one at all, I want it to be small if it's a tablet. But I grabbed the 11 inch one anyway, it's been great for editing. Also aren't all the iPad apps allegedly locked at 5gb of ram anyway?
@peterknutsen3070
@peterknutsen3070 3 жыл бұрын
9:10 I think the difference is that this newer iPad Pro is half a millimeter thicker than the previous one, which makes the cover thingie a very, very slightly imperfect fit when closed.
@hugoeriksson6524
@hugoeriksson6524 3 жыл бұрын
3:38 underrated reference
@King-zo4vv
@King-zo4vv 3 жыл бұрын
That dbrand skin tho🤩
@7moody771
@7moody771 3 жыл бұрын
They don’t sell it tho they only sell the boring skins lol
@King-zo4vv
@King-zo4vv 3 жыл бұрын
@@7moody771 I think it's coming soon
@sabasman
@sabasman 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love D-Brand and their web urls for Linus products, hope they keep that going for many years
@SimonKlimekNetwork
@SimonKlimekNetwork 2 жыл бұрын
I love listening to you mate :) so much joy watching this review
@itsTomate
@itsTomate 2 жыл бұрын
“Developers, developers, developers!” Apple today: “Computers, computers, computers!”
@SuperSireBoyYT
@SuperSireBoyYT 2 жыл бұрын
developers was a microsoft thing
@sharkuel
@sharkuel 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperSireBoyYT that's the United States of America for you.
@pandalabs8290
@pandalabs8290 3 жыл бұрын
The iPad has been better than my computer for a long time
@garybeharrie
@garybeharrie 3 жыл бұрын
bloom also comes from your eyes. like oled, its not really there, but ur eyes and how it is interpreted in your brain creates some bloom.
@KgRu1eS
@KgRu1eS 3 жыл бұрын
This was the most objective review I’ve ever seen
@rockrida317
@rockrida317 3 жыл бұрын
Apple: _Discontinues M1 chips for iPads 1 year later_
@eli.k9190
@eli.k9190 3 жыл бұрын
And now I just wait for the RGB gaming version.
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm wating for OS-XYZ to be supported on the iPad Pro, i cant wait to have a stealth pro desk that you come home and mount the ipad into to turn it into a massive trackpad/drawing tab, with 2 external displays, 10g networking, in desk USB ports/memory card reader, and and vapor chamber cooling on an adjustable dock stand that can fold down to lay flush with the surface of the desk.
@Jasonzvo
@Jasonzvo 3 жыл бұрын
you cant notice blooming on the ipad in real life, only the camera picks it up casue of the exposure settings on some of it.
@butterccm
@butterccm 3 жыл бұрын
oh wow, that's actually kinda cool they crammed one in an ipad
@SleepyFen
@SleepyFen 3 жыл бұрын
The new iPad is basically an iMac without a stand now lol
@CricketEngland
@CricketEngland 3 жыл бұрын
@@SleepyFen why the M1 chip it no bigger than any other chips
@bullymaguire6388
@bullymaguire6388 3 жыл бұрын
@@CricketEngland which chips exactly?
@asthmaticpathic
@asthmaticpathic 3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna start counting how many times i hear “Macbook Mini”
@Thewaterspirit57
@Thewaterspirit57 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why the servers disconnect, is because of Apples weird battery conservation thing. Because having a device always connected to something and constantly refreshing and checking data, would drain the battery. We don’t have that problem on desktops, it that’s cuz those are always connected to power 24/7, while these things are running off of battery. Maybe if they had a server mode you could just “turn on” then it would be easier. But when they do that, they should also add better hardware features, especially for videos. These things do perfectly for Art and graphics design, but not videos all that much. You can still edit…. But it’s not as great as a MacBook.
@frqtgwl
@frqtgwl 2 жыл бұрын
the colour grading on this video was awesome and refreshing
@mirwaishashimi7151
@mirwaishashimi7151 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone after seeing the Dbrand skin: Where is the Apple logo? Meanwhile their wallets crying in the corner.
@soulextinguisher
@soulextinguisher 3 жыл бұрын
That just made me want to get one just so I don't have to see the logo
@jricardoslz
@jricardoslz 2 жыл бұрын
@@soulextinguisher They're are available since yesterday, but without Apple logo. I want one too, but I'll have to make the cutout myself lool
@AdmiralBison
@AdmiralBison 3 жыл бұрын
MacOS>>>>>>iOS for actual computing. The specs on M1 iPad Pro’s don’t mean jack if you can’t even use it and restricted to what is only available through one monopoly App Store.
@Raja995mh33
@Raja995mh33 3 жыл бұрын
You damn CAN use the power. Stop making sh*t up that only Mac apps are "pro apps" or whatever. There ARE many pro apps on the iPad that can use the power. The iPad is simply not a Mac. If you want to draw and design stuff, the iPad will always be a better "Pro" machine than the Mac.
@AdmiralBison
@AdmiralBison 2 жыл бұрын
@@Raja995mh33 NAME ONE PRO APP ON THE IPAD!!!!! MACS with MACOS are COMPUTERS, iPads with an iPHONE OS are NOT computers. iOS is a wall gardened environment meaning you can NOT install any app you want from anywhere else you want, but only through ONE App Store controlled by Apple. FACT. IF Apple tried to lock down MacOS like iOS where you have to get EVERYTHING from one single App Store their computer business would go down the toilet or they would be hit with anti-trust. I dare you try and use an iPad Pro with iOS the way it is for SEVERAL MONTHS without having to rely on a Mac/Windows PC as your ONLY computer. You will find out very quickly and painfully it is NOT a computer, when Apple has more control over how you use the iPad Pro than you do - you have to SIDELOAD applications that you want because Apple doesn’t allow emulation and virtualization on iOS.
@AdmiralBison
@AdmiralBison 2 жыл бұрын
@@Raja995mh33 Apps are restrictive to 5GB of ram on all the new iPads including the 16GB RAM iPad PRo. IPadOS restricts you from using the iPads power, as well as Apple’s App Store policies. You haven’t used the iPad long enough to start seeing the limitations of it’s wall gardened environment and comparing it to an actual computer OS like MacOS. This is what the problem is, too many people are falling for Apple’s marketing BS thinking the iPad Pro is a “computer replacement” when at the most it is a computer companion and at the worst it is a digital prison.
@Raja995mh33
@Raja995mh33 2 жыл бұрын
@@AdmiralBison Dude 5GB is a hell lot of RAM PER App! Apple is not limiting the RAM to 5GB for all apps. It's the limit for ONE app. And I'm using the iPad Pro for over 2 years by now. And I do see some limitations here and there. But you have these kind of limitations on EVERY OS. But I'm happy with the walled garden. Way happier than with an open OS where everyone can throw its trash on. And sorry dude but your last sentence is pure bullshit, not Apples marketing. For me any many others, iPads already have replaced a computer or Laptop. This has nothing to do with some marketing. People just use the iPad for what its meant to be used and that's NOT to be a damn Mac. People are buying iPads because they want an iPad and not a Mac. Want a Mac? Go and get one. Let the iPad alone.
@Raja995mh33
@Raja995mh33 2 жыл бұрын
@@AdmiralBison Procreate, Filmic Pro, Photoshop, Lightroom, Rush, Lumafusion and so on. There are TONS of pro apps on the iPad but you clearly can't see them when you're not locking for them which you definitely haven't. And in fact iPads are computers. They are per definition dude. It's funny how you're saying people blindly believing in Apples marketing while it's actually YOU that blindly believes in Apples "your next computer is not a computer". And I could in fact live with my iPad alone. The only thing I would miss coming from my Windows Desktop would be the bigger screen and that I'm gaming from time to time. But none of those would be fixed with MacOS. In fact it would my experience with the iPad a Million times worse and wouldn't improve anything at all.
@TheWesman45
@TheWesman45 2 жыл бұрын
I wish there was more content with this guy. He is a riot.
@arumaakadalamudhan.t9900
@arumaakadalamudhan.t9900 3 жыл бұрын
Riley is getting better and better, someone get him some Butter! 😉 I like his way of doing the unbox, explain, compare and whatsoever he does is nice.. far better than before! 👍
@ItsArtyTheFox
@ItsArtyTheFox 2 жыл бұрын
"I feel like I'm talking about the IPad more than I'm actually using it" Actually every apple fan lmao
@davidempire4874
@davidempire4874 3 жыл бұрын
What I imagine at WWDC: Craig: So that's macOS 12. We believe this will improve the macOS experience for all Mac users. But, it's not only Mac users who can take advantage of this new software. Craig: That's right, macOS is now coming to iPad Pro. Now, how do we reengineer macOS for a touchscreen device? Well, to tell you all about how we designed macOS to work on iPad, here is a short video by Alan Dye.
@antiseth3964
@antiseth3964 3 жыл бұрын
I think if this happened I would get really excited. I’m kind of hoping that iPad OS adapts more of the functionality of MacOS, but I also understand why Apple keeps the product lines segmented. There’s just no reason for it anymore though. Why not let the iPad have a little more freedom? (Though if you watched the Apple vs Epic testimony apparently MacOS is “dangerous”)
@Raja995mh33
@Raja995mh33 3 жыл бұрын
Luckily will never happen because apple thinks about this stuff way more than all those "experts" on the internet that only think inside their bubble.
@davidempire4874
@davidempire4874 3 жыл бұрын
@@antiseth3964 I really hope that they do it though. No device with those specs deserves to run a mobile operating system.
@davidempire4874
@davidempire4874 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raja995mh33 I think Apple will do it.
@antiseth3964
@antiseth3964 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidempire4874 Honestly, I’m fine with the mobile operating system aspect. I just think it needs to take one or two steps closer to desktop functionality to really work as a “computer,” like making the file explorer more comprehensive and offering iPad variants of desktop apps as part of the “Universal App” ecosystem. But that’s just me in my own bubble (as Tim remarked above). I know Apple has their reasons for wanting to keep the OS as locked down as possible.
@ahtasamchoudhary8629
@ahtasamchoudhary8629 3 жыл бұрын
The referral link reminded me of the linusDROPtips made by dbrand... Ohh... That was funny... When linus was reading it out loud from the teleprompter 😄😄
@freestar_cyan
@freestar_cyan 2 жыл бұрын
2:07 Nice link bro!
@epsileth
@epsileth 3 жыл бұрын
New iMac is now a giant tablet. Change my mind. 😂
2 жыл бұрын
This didn't age too well
@janson2911
@janson2911 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that I’d change in the iPad pro are put the front camera on the right side, and add a calculator, that’s pretty much it
@Charlesb88
@Charlesb88 3 жыл бұрын
I have an issue with the headline of this video as the definition of a computer we have always used would include smart phones and tablets like the iPad even if some users may not have or still don’t considered usable enough to qualify as a desktop computer replacement. The Palm, Blackberry, and Windows Mobile/CE based phones and PDA’s and such all qualified as computers and even programmable calculators qualify. Whether they any of them was a computers that meet or met your needs or meets your needs today doesn’t disqualify them as computers.
@reliableguy3802
@reliableguy3802 3 жыл бұрын
that m1 really gets around
@nyubi007
@nyubi007 3 жыл бұрын
its fffing amazing
@abir95571
@abir95571 3 жыл бұрын
*Apple talks about ipad being a computer* Also Apple : Just slaps a keyboard and changes the chipset
@mrtwiggy10
@mrtwiggy10 3 жыл бұрын
we need a place on maybe the Linus forum where all the selfies and pictures taken on review devices get uploaded. Like the Selfie with the back camera on this iPad
@sunshadow1483
@sunshadow1483 2 жыл бұрын
The new iPad 11" screen is not mini LED, this spec is restricted currently to the 12.9"
@titanlobster980
@titanlobster980 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is getting a lot like a more fun unboxed therapy.
@chuuni6924
@chuuni6924 2 жыл бұрын
Smartphones and tablets have always been computers in the hardware sense, it's really all about the software. As long as it isn't possible to write your own programs without a loicense from Apple, it won't be a computer.
@SoftnappGAMEPLAY
@SoftnappGAMEPLAY 2 жыл бұрын
Ipads are best tablets in market but sometimes due to different application extension few things become problematic using it as office laptop
@iamjimbodini
@iamjimbodini 3 жыл бұрын
Love you too Riley.
@jormy
@jormy 3 жыл бұрын
nice
@gbw4908
@gbw4908 3 жыл бұрын
Speed is irrelevant when the direction is wrong. M1 with iPadOS
@Zombielunchbox
@Zombielunchbox 3 жыл бұрын
i dont think IpadOS. Just like Touch is never coming to the macbook. they will get close but it will never be full blown otherwise there would be no point to the macbook other than it being a thinner profile when its all said and done.
@gbw4908
@gbw4908 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zombielunchbox nobody is saying iPadOS or touch is needed on MacBook.
@Zombielunchbox
@Zombielunchbox 3 жыл бұрын
@@gbw4908 what im saying is we will never get a fully unlocked ipadOS
@isithatennakoon4284
@isithatennakoon4284 3 жыл бұрын
Doubt they will ever bring MacOS to the iPad, the design of the operating system just doesn't work for a predominantly touch-based device. However, I'm quite sure that we'll see some major updates to iPad OS at WWDC.
@bobhanson1037
@bobhanson1037 3 жыл бұрын
@@gbw4908 I would love if my macbook air had touch or stylus support. Be very helpful for notes, but that would make the iPad much less needed.
@techguy943
@techguy943 3 жыл бұрын
The 1 thing keepin the iPad from being a full computer is literally the ability to access encrypted password protected USB drives you connect to the iPad via USB- A to USB-C OR USB to Lightning
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't that what FaceID and TouchID are for? Or do you mean the ones they use for "license keys" in super expensive software?
@techguy943
@techguy943 3 жыл бұрын
@@TalesOfWar to clarify if you use FileVault on macOS to encrypt an external hard drive or flash drive when you plug aforementioned drive into the iPad you can’t access the data on the hard drive because you encrypted the drive on macOS using FileVault RIGHT NOW What Apple SHOULD DO is allow you to unlock your own hard drive or flash drive that you encrypted on your Mac on your iPad Like when you plug the drive in your should get an iOS alert style to let you know that the device you plugged in is encrypted and should ask you if you want to unlock the encrypted device and if you tap “unlock drive” you should get a prompt to enter the password you set for the device you plugged in and after you unlock the device you should get a prompt asking if you want the iPad to remember the drive and “Auto Unlock” the next time you plug it into your iPad The “auto unlock” prompt is for those who want to instantly access their drive encrypted drives the next time they plug it in on their own iPads
2 жыл бұрын
I think was to the another side, they doesn't put a desktop chip on a tablet, they put a tablet SoC on a desktop
@davidugono3727
@davidugono3727 3 жыл бұрын
Title: The iPad Pro is definitely a computer NOW! Galaxy Tab S7 and S7+: *laughs in Dex* Amateur.
@Raja995mh33
@Raja995mh33 3 жыл бұрын
It's more like crying with the only apps it can run are just blown up Smartphone apps thanks to Android.
@davidugono3727
@davidugono3727 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raja995mh33 Not all apps on Android tablets are just blown-up smartphone apps. There are over 3 billion apps on the Play Store. There are actually some Android apps with specific optimisation for tablets, but iPads have more optimised apps. Galaxy Tabs also have the Galaxy Store, so there's a lot tablet-optimised apps on there. And for any apps not optimised for Android tablets, Dex and floating windows solves that problem. Galaxy Tab S7 and S7+ can open apps as floating, resizable windows like a laptop, thanks to Dex. If there are suddenly any tablet-unoptimised apps that don't work well on Dex then you can just open the app as a floating, resizable window on tablet mode instead of Dex.
@Raja995mh33
@Raja995mh33 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidugono3727 3 billion apps doesn't matter anyway because Google does not really checks what people put there. If Google would check the apps like Apple does, they probably would have only half of this. And from those you have even less apps that are actually touch optimized while on iPadOS at least 8/10 apps have a dedicated iPad version.
@Just-View
@Just-View 3 жыл бұрын
The problem here is that neither Android nor iOS/iPadOS are able to run full desktop programs. So no matter how powerful these mobile devices get, it’s useless when they can’t replace a laptop or desktop with any OS.
@berlannerepoyo8380
@berlannerepoyo8380 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raja995mh33 You might be thinking of tablet optimized not touchscreen optimized. Because all apps in any mobile app store is optimised for touch. Because guess what? Every smartphone are touch screen. 🤣🤣🤣
@rayyanshaikh5591
@rayyanshaikh5591 3 жыл бұрын
"The iPad is definitely a computer" iPad: *needs you to buy the keyboard separately*
@Just-View
@Just-View 3 жыл бұрын
The on-screen keyboard is ok-meh, but it’s power is limited by the lack of full laptop apps.
@rayyanshaikh5591
@rayyanshaikh5591 3 жыл бұрын
@@Just-View imagine if you bought a laptop and it didnt come with a keyboard, you had to use a on screen keyboard to do everything. Just imagine.
@Just-View
@Just-View 3 жыл бұрын
Agree
@rdvgrd6
@rdvgrd6 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah because half of the users don’t need the keyboard and don’t have to pay for it. That’s how a versatile computer works. Anything else you want to shit on?
@t0bi105
@t0bi105 3 жыл бұрын
The se7en reference is just perfect
@michaelsanju12
@michaelsanju12 3 жыл бұрын
Center stage also works in other video conferencing apps
@damammoth2519
@damammoth2519 3 жыл бұрын
iPads ARE computers. They always have been. Anything that can COMPUTER something, is a COMPUTER.
@eidrag
@eidrag 3 жыл бұрын
always been computer.... but where is computest?
@MATTHEWMYTHHAVEN
@MATTHEWMYTHHAVEN 3 жыл бұрын
Shut up man. No one cares for your paltry linguistic jokes
@bullymaguire6388
@bullymaguire6388 3 жыл бұрын
@@eidrag but what about compute then?
@eidrag
@eidrag 3 жыл бұрын
@@bullymaguire6388 computer is device to help people compute
@bullymaguire6388
@bullymaguire6388 3 жыл бұрын
@@eidrag no I know what it is, I was just continuing the superlative and comparatives.
@MasterBaker2020
@MasterBaker2020 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as he said “Hey Siri, turn on dark mode” my iPad flipped out. 4:46
@imranward4092
@imranward4092 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you did some productivity tests on the iPad to show it's viability as a laptop replacement. Maybe use Lightroom, or Premiere apps? Use Logic Music creation software? Multitasking? External display, mouse, key, accessories comparability?
@BladeITguy
@BladeITguy 3 жыл бұрын
1600nits is insane, these can be used for outdoor ordering and display systems now
@ArchusKanzaki
@ArchusKanzaki 3 жыл бұрын
Dammit Apple, just enable MacOS for touch input, put it on iPad, and everyone will be happy! They both have same chip now!
@eidrag
@eidrag 3 жыл бұрын
Or make macbook touch screen and optimize osx for touch interface
@Raja995mh33
@Raja995mh33 3 жыл бұрын
Dude do you even realize how hard it would be to rewrite an entire OS to be touch friendly? Windows 8 and 10 have shown that you just can't use a touchscreen and it magically works perfectly. You have to redesign everything with bigger buttons etc. At this point it's just extremely stupid - especially when Apple already HAS a well touch-optimized OS for the iPad. It's called iPadOS. And at least try thinking outside your bubble. "Everyone will be happy"? Except literally every iPad buyer. People that buy an iPad, want an iPad and not a damn Macbook.
@ArchusKanzaki
@ArchusKanzaki 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raja995mh33 I'm not even asking much. Just the ability to even run MacOS apps, like how MacOS can run IpadOS or iOS apps now, and also put in touch screen on Macbook. That's all. MacOS is actually very touch-usable without modification, and the icon is big enough for touching. On the Ipad side, you can use keyboard and mouse now too. On the hardware side, the hinge on Macbook is the best-of-its-class which will make touching it feels very natural and sturdy. Don't even need 360 degree hinge, just having a touch input option is good enough.
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who uses both daily. I don't want this, and neither do you if you actually think about it. They're both made for very different input methods as is ALL the software for them. There's only so much you can do to make one friendly to both, you're still going to have to rely entirely on 3rd parties to make something that doesn't suck or end up as a compromise that ends up being shit on both. Like Windows 8 was. They decided from day one NOT to do this, and for their touch optimised OS to be entirely separate from their mouse/trackpad and keyboard optimised one.
@eidrag
@eidrag 3 жыл бұрын
@@TalesOfWar as someone that only can afford 1 device, having both input seems better. Apple can learn from windows migration from pointers to touch, seems less hurdle
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