The 2022 Lexus ES250 AWD Misses some of the Lexus ES Magic!

The 2022 Lexus ES250 AWD is the first AWD Lexus ES in the line up since the ES was on the market. While majority of the model is very similar to the awesome ES350 but in one aspect the Lexus ES experience. The smoothness and refinement of the drivetrain.
The 4 cylinder engine in the Lexus ES250 AWD is a big let down unfortunately. While a Great engine, just is not fitting of a car of this size.
I love this Lexus ES generation for it's refinement and focus on objective of absolute Luxury and long term relaxed ownership. And while the long term relaxed ownership is there for the Lexus ES250 AWD but it misses some marks on the luxury experience due to the loud noise and labored feeling of the engine.
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0:00 Intro
0:39 Differences between ES250 and ES350 : Under the Hood
3:22 Under car and AWD system Review
7:53 Final Verdict

[@Mlegion1988]

I just bought a 2022 ES AWD, purposely went with this model mainly due to AWD and gas Milage (I drive 20k miles a year and Lexus is lowest cost of ownership!), to me the car is totally fine with power. I didn’t buy this car to drag race, but for reliability and quality!

[@regmatt]

how’s the road noise is it quiet , coz i am hunting on one debating with es 250 vs 350

[@Mlegion1988]

To me no difference, I test drove both. I’ve had it for 6 months now, very comfortable and quiet.

[@cashmiller2999]

I am thinking of picking one of these up as a commuter. How many mugs do you average? I’m between a used es260 or a new Camry. What do you think

[@davidfelter3552]

I too, own one of these. It is my first Lexus, and while AMD is spot on in his assessment, it is a very good automobile. I came from an Audi, 2.0 turbo, a nice little hot rod. The ES feels like a very honest car. It doesn’t pretend to be an Autobahn flyer, nor a hairy-chested rock-crawler. It is comfortable, quiet, agile, and very economical. Fit and finish are top notch. When the Audi began ingesting its own coolant, and the dealer said, “That’s normal,” I didn’t stick around for the inevitable rebuild. Sure, it could use the v6, or hey, go all the way with 500. It’s probably a niche market, but if you don’t need 13 sec. quarter-mile slips, it will serve you well.

[@reynanregaladonow6426]

4cyl is noisy and you have no passing power. Lexus made a mistake here. This is not a camry.

[@stkhlear2566]

Here's to hoping we don't have someone who bullied Toyotas when they were younger.

[@ResplendentRaider]

@@reynanregaladonow6426the majority cars on the road have 4cyl so dont say it dont have passing power

[@PulpReality1]

i Have an ES 250 lol i dont drive on an autobahn and i pass people all the time.. What are you talking about?

[@ResplendentRaider]

@@PulpReality1 just finding something to complain about lol.

[@rjohns25]

I bought a 2021 ES250 Ultra Luxury last year - although everything you say is true its still amazing for me and my needs - handles these appalachian snow storms like a champ and gets great gas mileage

[@jml9550]

I have a 2017 ES350, but if I were to get a replacement, I would rather pay a little bit more on a ES hybrid than a 4 banger.

[@rightlanehog3151]

😁

[@rjohns25]

@@jml9550 I would prefer efficiency and AWD - naturally haha - I don't mind a 4 banger - I rarely go over the speed limit so I dont need that power or speed hahaha

[@jml9550]

@@rjohns25 Sure, whatever fit your needs best is the perfect car. No doubt. I do like the newer ES design, looks like a 3/4 LS500.

[@tinhinnh]

@@jml9550 hybrid uses a 4 banger too 😁

[@derrickjohnson5219]

Thank you AMD for reviewing all of the different models.By you going over all of the products allows me to decide what Toyota model I want.The Camry is still my favorite and I can understand why you bought one.I have three relatives that own Camry's and they love them.

[@user-zt6bt8dp2c]

Lexus needs to bring back the GS

[@raymondcanessa7208]

90% of the people that buy or lease these cars won't notice the power difference. Because it is fwd it doesn't attract the performance crowd anyway. Easier maintenance when it gets old.

[@gabrielramirez2823]

Great video AMD! Thank you!

[@marcusj4467]

It was great to see how the AWD system works and how it differs from other systems, even on the Lexus IS (which is full time)

[@icosthop9998]

I love your honesty thank you very much

[@BalladSelections]

Given the high gas prices, this may come very practical.

[@tinhinnh]

yes its a lil down on power if youre used to the v6 but im glad they gave us more choices

[@wholeNwon]

Thanks. Exactly what I wanted to know.

[@davidelizabeth4933]

We're with you. Not sure how this one makes sense for us. Still a great car, though! Thanks, AMD!!! ❤❤

[@bwatt1383]

I love this thing, I'm not a speeding teenager anymor

[@mikechiodetti4482]

While this a nice car, I once drove an IS360. WHAT A HOTROD! A friend needed me to drive it while he prepared his night school assignment.

[@Nicetrybrobro]

Looks is an A+ compared to previous models but the engine choice is interesting especially for an AWD

[@joelcleare]

ES300h w/AWD would be great. Even a Es350 AWD

[@VILSONDUSEVIC]

They can make the ES300h AWD very easy.

[@InternetDude]

Yes AWD ES300h would be perfect. I am awaiting my new '22 ES300h and just wish it was AWD and had plugin capability.

[@markpelenytschka8374]

Simply Simplistic

[@timothydevries383]

I will wait until the next generation ES450h with a 2.4l turbo hybrid eAwd

[@shawnl3154]

Good Stuff !

[@jasonjakubowski8507]

Good Day CCN family 👍

[@JoeCole12]

Thank you for posting this video. I value your opinion and insight. I recently drove a coworker’s latest generation Camery 4cy and was really impressed with the driving dynamics! How does the current ES handle compared to the Camery?

[@TheCarCareNut]

Hi! They handle similar with the ES being smoother and quieter

[@alengreen589]

Simple and Simplicity is the key word from Lexus cars and thats why Toyota can sell the cars cheaper as other Premium brands who use modern and expensive parts.

[@TheRealHungryJoe]

Great content like always! That ES class is so nice. Does this share the same chassis as the Camry / Avalon?

[@TheCarCareNut]

It does share the platform with the Avalon

[@nynthworld4152]

@@TheCarCareNut Sir, I might get a 2018-2019 Lincoln MKZ with the 2.0 Liter engine with AWD. Hopefully nothing with more with 25k miles on it. Are they good vehicles? Thanks in advance for your reply.👍

[@TheRealHungryJoe]

@@nynthworld4152 Hi, this is just my opinion. Do you have to use your car frequently under tough conditions? Under normal conditions, FWD can serve well. Normal conditions can include light rain and snow. AWD is the best for snow and minor off-road conditions. My uncle owns a limousine service and most of his vehicles are Lincoln. He usually upgrades every couple years under 100K. If you’re looking for luxury, look for a Lexus perhaps, FWD.

[@don_kandon6006]

Not sure about underpowered statement. Most cars on the road are still 9.5-10.5s to 0-60. This one is 8.2. Even in texas which has highest speed limits 75-85mph, it has enough of oomphf to overtake from 85 to 90-100. From 85 to 100 it goes in 5 ish seconds. It could obviously benefit from hybrid, in terms of power and mpg, it would be such a nice car for awd if they added hybrid, or as we all wished, on the v6. For now i guess those who need awd, should pick es250 in ultra luxury, as i believe it has extra damping/isolation, so v4 engine loudness issue is solved.

[@kclefthanded427]

It's missing 2 cylinders to make it legit. The model to buy if you're not in a hurry

[@Maserati7200]

My mom has a 2021 ES350 that I drive periodically. The biggest flaw is that the V6 provides a bit too much power for FWD - the wheels spin at medium throttle at starts from 0 in the dry. But they only offer AWD on the 250. If anything, it should be the opposite

[@danielolivieri9345]

Can you tec us more about the scope and the Scan tool give people the basic

[@aaronmercier5876]

I had one as a loaner 2021 Lexus ES 250 AWD when my 2015 GS350 was getting serviced just last week. I like the space but it is underpowered at a lower speed, the engine becomes noisy, and the tranny gets confused when stepping on the gas. The seats are not as comfortable as the GS 350 f-sport, but I am guessing the lux package seats or F-Sport package seats are better. Oh yes, great gas mileage :)

[@garyj4046]

I bought a Lexus ES 300h for the extra gas mileage, but you can't compare the smooth and quietness of the ES 350 with the 8 speed transmission. The 4cyl is rougher and louder. OTH I drove home a few days ago about 40 miles and got a solid 50mpg on the dash readout, and can easily go 400 - 450 miles on a tank of gas before hitting reserve where there's still 2 gals in the tank. I bought it primarily for long range driving, but if it was just for an everyday driver, the ES 350 is the better option @ 25 - 30 mpg.

[@spinb]

About the same HP and Torque as a 2007 IS250, (203hp, 185ft-lbs), and longer and heavier, with a price over $40K. Doesn't sound like a good deal. Just buy a V6 Camry.

[@naveenthemachine]

Agreed. And put winter tires on it for snow traction

[@worldlinerai]

Problem is, you have to rev it high to get those numbers. Max torque happens at 5000 RPM. Most engines get max torque in the 4000 range.

[@AustinsCoins]

I got my 2008 Lexus AWD Is250 for $6,000 with 142,000 miles lol. It's a great car, it now has 149,000. My only complaint is how slow it is.

[@naveenthemachine]

@@AustinsCoins isn’t the is250 have a 2.5L v6?

[@AustinsCoins]

@@naveenthemachine Yes it is, but it's underpowered for what it is.

[@driversteve9345]

The one thing I hate about the Lexus sedans like the ES 300h is that my front lower bumper is ALWAYS hitting the concrete when there is a slight bend in the angle of the vehicle such as when coming off a 10°+ degree hill or bump in the road. Often times there is an uneven transition from a parking lot to the street. I have to be very careful about driving as to not scrape the bottom of my front fender on the road as if I'm riding in a low-rider. I've never had this issue in other cars I've had! It's the one reason why I won't be buying another Lexus/Toyota that has a similar problem!

[@dogsarefun2]

Hi Amd, please put this video on your to do list.... changing/flushing coolant for Rav4..... is there a coolant drain plug on the engine block? 2017 rav4 xle

[@seriousfaith]

I just picked up the Camry XSE with the 2.5...if the 2.5 is underpowered, the 3.5 must be a rocket ship.

[@mrtachanka607]

Doesn’t the Camry weight less than the Lexus ES?? I also have a 2.5 Camry and it’s enough for merging and making passes on the highway!!

[@seriousfaith]

@@mrtachanka607 looks like there's about 140 pounds or so difference between the Camry and the equivalent Lexus. It's heavier, but not that much when you get right down to it.

[@RetroEliteGaming]

I think people are just spoiled lol but I have a 19 es300h and it has sufficient power. I mean if I'm being honest sometimes I do wish I had more power but at the end of the day it has enough to get up and go. Merging and passing others is fine. Pretty quite ride and smooth. I do hope they eventually make the hybrid with a little more power and awd or make it plug in

[@tails300]

In terms of power and acceleration ranking from weakest to strongest its Camry 4cylinder gas only, Camry hybrid, Camry V6.

[@alanhumphrey4198]

I'm keeping my ES 350 FWD with V-6 as long as I can!!!

[@mrsargemeister]

I like it. Practical. It meets the needs of 95% of buyers in this segment with the added benefit of better fuel economy. Lets face it...its a new age and a 3.5l v6 when you're not hauling anything is quite frankly a waste.

[@rightlanehog3151]

[@naveenthemachine]

So why not just get a Camry instead and save the cash? You can get a Camry 4 cylinder for 35K fully loaded

[@InternetDude]

Don't let pesky facts get in the way of what people "want" LOL

[@mrsargemeister]

@@naveenthemachine same reason people bought a lexus with the 2gr-fe when you could buy the same engine in a toyota

[@user-hh2mk5go8x]

Can you provide a video explaining the AWD system in 1st gen highlander? I think this is the same as the rx300. Is this a reliable system?

[@trdrav4]

I concur; the pairing of the lesser engine with the AWD was very disappointing. I would think most buyers will go for a NX AWD instead.

[@danielolivieri9345]

And live this one

[@InternetDude]

Uh oh I have a new '22 ES300h on order, should be here at end of next month (or longer!). Hmm

[@thetruthspeaks8702]

I never like the idea of a luxury car with a 4 cylinder engine myself.

[@kennynguyen2105]

The ES350 is a beef up Camry V6 and Lexus target older buyers or Asians. Majority of Asians like Toyota Lexus and Camry ES350 will be their first choice for a sedan. RX350 will be their choice for mid size SUV. Lexus tried to get more customers with the ES250 but I think the sales won't be great due to underpowered issue.

[@MiguelRPD]

I drive a V6 es350 and I can't imagine a 0-60 in 60 seconds. I love overtaking any vehicle.

[@icosthop9998]

When you say "overtaking" you're not talking quarter mile are you ?

[@MiguelRPD]

@@icosthop9998 lots of bad drivers in Florida .. gotta play it safe and overtake.

[@icosthop9998]

@@MiguelRPD I watch the *Wham bam Tesla Cam* videos a lot. I was thinking you are living in California, And having to deal with "Road Rage". As in *overtake* and get the hell out of there ❗️

[@michaelepley1767]

I don’t understand why this engine is in a large car as the ES is.I drive a 2020 ES 350 absolutely love the 3.5 V6. Please Lexus/Toyota for the next generation of the ES please do no put the 2.4 turbo in like with the NX and still call it a 350. I know you watch AMDs videos you will loose customers it will never be the same car.

[@fred89pj]

Same BS everywhere, making smaller engines and adding turbos which wear out the engines faster and very expensive to repair when they fail. I love my V6 3.5

[@DylanL69]

I don't understand why they didn't make the v6 awd and put limited slip diffs in

[@robertskerry2145]

The Lexus ES AWD should be a 6 cylinder. Lexus should put the GS engine into the ES AWD but perhaps upgrade the engine. The Lexus ES should not be a 4 cylinder.

[@salmanddj]

Please can you tell me if IS 350 AWD OR GS 350 AWD also has the same AWD system like this car or they are more advanced. Can they split power more towards rear biased less at front at times ?

[@damienbell3155]

Question if you see this, does the 2008 rx350 have this set up on the driveshaft rear diff ?

[@ChefS.Keller]

Hey Mr amd, why no love for the 5th gen es350? There’s no videos on your channel about one

[@deplorablechump8758]

Refining instead of inventing works really well for Toyota/Lexus and for those who prefer reliability. If you have lots of money, go for the technologically advanced makes like BMW and Mercedes.

[@VILSONDUSEVIC]

Thank you AMD for this video. I hope you will do a ES300h review. Is it normal for the ES300h engine to vibrate on idle when cold? No codes, 24000 miles on the clock.

[@InternetDude]

Yes the 2.5L is a bit rough when cold, that's normal. It's due to the direct injection, but it should go away fairly soon after startup (few mins typically).

[@TheCarCareNut]

Hi! A slight vibration can be normal for that engine in the es300h

[@RoofedAsian89]

My local dealers are out of ow 16 oil , what other brand you recommend

[@jxmar_]

I’m so disappointed they decided to use the 4 cyl from the Camry instead of making the hybrid version AWD.. since the Camry hybrid isn’t available w AWD. That way the ES doesn’t loose it’s magic.

[@InternetDude]

I would like to see all ES in North America come hybrid only, with the only option being e-AWD or FWD. In many other places in the rest of the world you can only get the hybrid ES due to stricter fuel economy and emissions regulations. That's the future everywhere.

[@stephendibari5010]

I had a 2013 ES350 (2nd owner) from 2018 to 2020. One of the best cars I’ve ever owned. v6 is solid and quiet. I would never get a 4 cylinder in this platform. Too heavy and would be underpowered. Sold that ES350 to Carvana for financial reasons and bought my 1 owner 2002 ES300 with 161k miles. Love this ES BETTER !! Solid and tight. Not a CREEK OR RATTLE. sound proofing is exceptional. Now with 4 new struts it rides like new !

[@jgizzy]

Wow good to hear it worked out for you. Why praytell do you like the 2002 better? I am looking for an ES or Avalon but am still up in the air on which years/model.

[@derrickjohnson5219]

I would love to have a sedan that's a 4 cyl comfy, quiet, luxurious and great on gas.

[@bronxtaskforce01]

I currently have a Lexus IS350 RWD 2014. I sometimes don't drive the car for up to 5 days. Afterwards I attempted to start the car and the battery is dead. What would cause a parasitic power draw? How to trace to what is causing the problem.

[@rayonwilliamssportsandfun2106]

Can you Do a video 📹 on 2010 toyota avalon on proper maintenance..I got one from a lady at 220000 miles ..and I don't kno wen they last did the tranny fluid.so wanna kno if im just to leave it alone.

[@blueb4829]

Which 2022 Lexus midsize sedan comes in AWD and is a V6? Or is there one?

[@Charkatak]

How is the AWD different on 2021 Lexus ES 250, when compared to this in the video?

[@dtna]

Different subject... Can you do a video on wiper blades and wiper inserts? And how easy it is to replace the OEM wiper inserts? My friend got hosed at the dealership when he was told that his wiper blades needed to be replaced. Thnx.

[@pilotgrrl1]

In my experience, buying wiper blades at the Toyota dealership is about the same cost as buying good wiper blades (Bosch or similar) at an auto parts store. They also install them for free.

[@TheCarCareNut]

Hi! I have a video for wiper inserts. Here it is m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5W1d4OLe693pdE

[@ezymarkz]

AWD system very similar (if not the same) as the AWD JDM Toyota Estima.

[@davidgillham6847]

Great content as ever! However, I have one word for this car, UNDER-POWERED! Sorry Lexus, this just ain't good enough. Where is the AWD Hybrid/Plug-in Hybrid ES350h, ES450h+ already, Lexus get a bloody move on!

[@rattanakgamer1526]

Hello everyone nice to meet you all, I got one question. Can I put battery from a gen 4 toyota prius to a gen 2 like 2005 prius. Please help answer thank you very much

[@Bi1138en]

Thinking about buying a highlander year 20, 21 or maybe a new 22 . What are your thoughts is there any huge difference?

[@TheCarCareNut]

Hi! They’re really all the same. Hard to find them used in this market. If you’re not in a hurry I’d find one for MSRP and order a new one. No point in paying the same for a used one

[@jmer3536]

Main reason for this engine in the ES and NX models is pricing. Its a cheaper entry point. I get it but dont agree with it.

[@BeReady726]

Toyota should just give this engine forced induction, or what about E85 or high octane gas? There has to be a way to get a little bit more power without harming reliability.

[@cpawp]

Could not find one ES 250 in Germay, till I realized it was named ES 300 here.

[@InternetDude]

The 300 is hybrid, the 250 is not.

[@fartman10284]

Could of given the Lexus the Torque vectoring system of the upper RAV4 trims and left the regular system to the Camry

[@keithhastings4092]

You can blame CAFE for this….

[@naveenthemachine]

I don’t think it’s cafe. It’s just Lexus is cost cutting and charging more They could have simply used the Highlander v6 AWD combo for the ES AWD.

[@nycad2484]

So is this system more like my 2008 Highlander 4wd? Full time 50/50 split, not including the rear clutch.

[@Shiinamusiclyricssubs]

always spinning, but i believe the rear differential can lock or unlock, so most of the time it is spinning the driveshaft but not sending any power to the rear

[@TheCarCareNut]

Hi! The highlander is different. This system is similar to a RAV4

[@ryanmcginn1861]

Hi, Looking for a used car around 5-8000. I found a 110,000 mile 2010 camry but I just watched your video on them. Do you have any suggestions?

[@ryanmcginn1861]

CT/NY area

[@scaldon2]

Hybrid is more expensive to maintain. And might not be best option for most people depending on climate where you live . Es 250 regular gas is a plus .

[@MisterMathematics]

Toyota's hybrid drivetrains have been proven to be bulletproof. It's definitely worth it if you drive many city miles on a daily basis.

[@NYCaznboiandrew]

Are there any big suspension differences between the ES350 and a Camry XLE?

[@hjer731]

Probably. I would hope so

[@naveenthemachine]

Not really. The Camry XLE may be ever so slightly stiffer but it’s almost unnoticeable. Same thing can be said for the xse

[@funkysoulman3861]

Question about a 2021 prius prime. I believe the speedo is off by a few mph at 60 and about 4 to 5 mph off at 75. One toyota dealer claimed it is acceptable to be off by 10% (I have that in writing) another dealer claims it should not be off at all. I've had a Garmin that told me it was off and multiple apps on multiple phones along with all the construction speed signs all say it's off by a few mph. I already don't trust the one toyota dealer. Is the prius prime's speedometer a cable or is it a GPS censor? Should I go back to that dealer and have them "check" it again?

[@TheCarCareNut]

Hi! They can adjust it up to 4 MPH

[@JesusisLOVEJohn-]

🤔QUESTION🤔: With your expertise, Is there a way to heat up a hybrid car battery in winter? I heard it gets something like 30% to 34% less fuel efficient in winter. So if I was expecting to get 50 mpg in a hybrid camry, in winter I might only get 30ish mpg. Is an engine block heater a good idea? Or put a space heater in the car on a timer? What do you suggest?😁

[@pilotgrrl1]

As a 18-year Prius driver, I have to say that I have never experienced that big a mileage drop in winter! A couple of MPG, sure, but nowhere near 30-34%.

[@JesusisLOVEJohn-]

@@pilotgrrl1 Thanks for your input. A few questions: 1. What year is your latest prius? 2. You said your prius gets a couple less mpg in winter? Do you mean like 2 - 3 mpg or more like 5 - 7 mpg less (give or take a few mpg)? 3. Also where do you live? (Example: northern USA, or in the middle, down south?)😁

[@TheCarCareNut]

Depends on how cold it gets. All cars hybrids included will get less gas mileage in the winter and it has to do with the gasoline engine not the hybrid battery

[@adrpichardo]

I have an issue in my 2000 Toyota Camry i4 that I’m sure is a short to ground but want some input. Whenever I turn on the engine of the vehicle and change gear from park passed or into neutral a fuse controlling the instrument cluster blows. Have you seen this?

[@montestu5502]

Check the wiring at the left side trunk hinge. That wiring gets flexed over and over when the trunk is opened and closed and can break the wires and you can get some strange things happening when two hot wires touch each other. I’m guessing one of the wires is for the reverse lights.

[@lightman489]

I've seen it many times, usually a spill drink on the console

[@p6102zrfxe]

Great car. Could you please next time show how is loud engine? Thank you AMD.

[@TheCarCareNut]

Hi! There was a whole driving section of this video unfortunately the footage got deleted by accident!

[@markwagner4909]

Nope, I’ll stick with the 3.5 (non-turbo) for longevity

[@rightlanehog3151]

AMD, This ES250 seems like a stop gap measure until a Lexus ES AWD Hybrid arrives some day. Having said that, the 2.5 engine will provide adequate power for luxury sedan shoppers who want more grip but are not in a big rush. The Lexus UX already proves there is a market for a Lexus with 'adequate' power.😁

[@naveenthemachine]

Why not just get a top end Camry with AWD? Or get an IS with AWD and the v6.

[@747-pilot]

It has NOTHING to do with power. The whole point of buying a Lexus is for its REFINEMENT (Quietness, comfort, smoothness and luxury that coddles) [rollseyes]. The idiots that pay an arm and a leg for vehicles like this ES 250 and the UX (with their highly UNREFINED, NOISY and ROUGH 4-bangers), are most likely buying it for the “L” badge so that they can show how “well” they’re doing! Actually, to someone with more than 2 brain cells, it is more of an indication of how deep in debt they are, in order to flaunt themselves! The whole point of a *SIX CYLINDER* engine, for anyone who knows 2 spits about cars, is that it’s more than just “power”. It’s all about the SMOOTHNESS, THE REFINED NOTE OF THE ENGINE and THE LINEAR POWER DELIVERY that only a “six” can deliver, and a 4 banger could NEVER EVER hope to achieve (especially Toyota fours, which as some of the noisiest, roughest and most unrefined of them all!!)

[@cl63pbx]

In Asian markets Lexus actually has a ES 200. Yes, you got it right, it is a 2 liter non hybrid powerplant plus CVT in a 196 inch/5 meter long luxury sedan and is still in production. It can be up to $10,000 cheaper than the 300h, and also has acceptable fuel economy, and last but not least lower tax (many Asian nations tax by engine displacement, the 2L engine is a huge difference comparing with the old 3.5L 2GR-FE ES 350s). While I personally would never consider the ES 200 and 250 as they are severely underpowered, lack many iconic features that the ES is proud of, and not a hybrid (I own a 06 ES350 ,fantastic car, also own a hybrid Corolla), I can see why some people would consider them or why Lexus would even bother designing one. Entry-level corporate executive vehicles, entry-level limousines or ride-sharing comes to mind. Just maybe not for the wider Lexus/Toyota lovers out there.

[@ByteFilm]

I think they should have went with eAWD with ES300h

[@rightlanehog3151]

I will bet it is on the way.

[@InternetDude]

I agree 100%. And I'm awaiting a '22 ES300h.

[@SibRevs]

Hey Amd. Is there talk of Toyota getting rid of the V6 for the next generation Lexus ES?

[@naveenthemachine]

Don’t be surprised if it happens. They put in the nx. They could likely even put it in the RX

[@InternetDude]

Let's hope they do. V8's are already obsolete due to emissions and fuel economy, 6's are next. Hybrids rule.

[@TheCarCareNut]

Hard to tell but it’s possible

[@dev2594]

What would you recommend as a good starter luxury sedan? I’m looking for a new car. Just sold my 6y old car and looking for a replacement.

[@dev2594]

The Lexus dealership near my house is selling sedans at 1k below msrp, which is unusual in this market. I just don’t know what to select honestly.

[@dev2594]

Budget is about 50k, can go up to 60ish if the value is worth it.

[@naveenthemachine]

If you want a new car starter luxury sedan and you can afford 60K go is500

[@TheCarCareNut]

Honestly a Lexus ES350.

[@bwest-yq3uc]

Is this the same engine and tranny setup in the Rav4? Lexus always used this engine?

[@naveenthemachine]

Yeah. The exact same setup in the rav4 LE and XLE AWD and Camry AWD. This engine was first introduced in the 2018 camry

[@InternetDude]

Yes same as in Camry, RAV4, Venza, NX, etc.

[@tinhinnh]

4cyl ES is common in other countries. Its same size as the Camry and most Camry’s are 4cyl’s

[@edg5312]

Es350 and Avalon share platforms not Camry

[@tinhinnh]

@@edg5312 Same size dude - ES is midsize = Camry

[@edg5312]

@@tinhinnh wrong. In the states at least, Avalon and Es350 share same platform not camry. Google is free for all

[@tinhinnh]

@@edg5312 I said they’re the same class size (midsize), I didn’t say they share platforms. reading comprehension is lacking?

[@edg5312]

@@tinhinnh wrong again. In the states, Avalon & Es350 are full size sedans and share the same platform

[@billkallas1762]

Why doesn't it come with a 2.5 Turbo???

[@BeReady726]

My theory on why they’re doing all these AWD models all of a sudden: to weaken Subaru in order to buy them and take their AWD technology or just to knock out a competitor.

[@prism8289]

It’s because awd is what sells.

[@BeReady726]

@@prism8289 what are you basing this off of?

[@prism8289]

@@BeReady726 that I was a car salesman at a huge lot, and people definitely preferred awd drive over 2 wheel drive, ESPECIALLY in upscale cars. It was often a requirement.

[@josetranquelo7145]

Glorified Camry!

[@obsidianshamrockstudios2027]

bought a 2021 250 AWD and I am disgusted with it. It is noisey as hell on the highway, mine is currently at the dealer for the back seat being loose and making a shit ton of noise on uneven roads, and they are trying to tell me its the way the car is supposed to be. Coming from 2 Jaguars I am not impressed at all with this brand. Shoulda listened to everyone telling me its a glorified Toyota.

[@kennynguyen2105]

It's a Camry with Lexus badge😎 The old school ES250 has better build than this new gen. My ex had 1991 ES250 and it was quiet and made in Japan lol.

[@obsidianshamrockstudios2027]

@@kennynguyen2105 coming from an xf it is a huge letdown the Jaguar was much nicer

[@kennynguyen2105]

@@obsidianshamrockstudios2027 XF is nice for the first 3 years then problems. My bro in law had one and he got rid of it after several major repairs. I personally own the GS, HS, and LS. Never like the ES and I drove many ES as a loaner before.

[@rickjohnson1266]

When will they have an ES in BOTH Hybrid and AWD?

[@theresanguyen4259]

Yes they do.Label AWD ES300h on the trunk lid.You need to look for it!

[@brucesimpson8579]

The year 2022 is turning out to be a blah year for new car models.

[@alk3r056]

Hello, It is true that Lexus can only be taken to Dealers and not to general repairs shop. I want an NX model but someone told me that I can't take it to my trusted mechanic.. Thanks

[@garyj4046]

You can, but I wouldn't. Lexus vehicles are VERY dependable and if given regular service they should not require anything more than routine maintenance. Lexus service is not overpriced like European autos and when you go to a Lexus or Toyota dealer your sure to get OEM parts installed by qualified technicians. It will cost a little more on a given visit than the corner garage, but it's well worth it. PS - change oil every 5k mi if you want the engine to last , basically - FOREVER...

[@jophoto934]

I drive 160 miles a day through the snowbelt. Front wheel drive is decent until you have to drive through 10” of snow for 160 miles to get to work. Too bad this engine is a dog. I drove my 92’ ES300 through the snowbelt after getting 10” storm snow. Unplowed roads. New all season tires. I was following my brand new 96’ Subaru Outback. The Lexus was making it but really struggling. The Outback went through like the roads were clear. 1996. That’s when I knew I needed AWD.

[@purplehills56]

Honestly I believe car manufacturers should make all vehicles awd as standard and no more 2wd

[@jumaljuma]

Wow

[@justinkim3406]

Whats this color?

[@leonisbacher1772]

Iridium Silver

[@DEVILTAZ35]

Still just essentially a FWD designed car . Nowhere near as good as the Rear wheel drive Lexus models.

[@vladchan]

If you want AWD go for the RX350. You will get an honest to goodness V6 engine and a modern full time AWD system which sends power front and back and side to side as needed. A 4 cylinder in a luxury car, seriously, Toyota? A 2006 vintage AWD system?

[@naveenthemachine]

Or you could get a Highlander with a more advanced AWD system with torque vectoring, something lacking on the rx

[@smithraymond09029]

I would be concerned about a potential lack of power or engine buzziness. Anyone on here drive one and can tell us?

[@naveenthemachine]

I’ve driven the same engine in the Camry and rav4 and I can say it’s noisy and unrefined. Exactly why I paid extra for the v6 in Camry. Night and day difference

[@InternetDude]

ES has additional soundproofing over Camry.