The 2023 Toyota GR Corolla Core is a Grin Machine (POV Drive Review)

[@parthlad]

Between the GR Corolla, GR86, Civic Type R and Elantra N I'm glad we're still getting enthusiast orientated cars in 2023.

[@vasyak9264]

100%

[@von6164]

GTI or Si aren’t enthusiast cars?

[@luckyluke9053]

What wins me over about the GR is the simple fact that I can daily this year round in any weather. That's the ultimate difference in my eyes. These are still 2 very awesome cars and I wouldn't mind owning either or. I chose the GR.

[@MilesPerHr]

Tires are always important as well, but the AWD is a huge asset in winter conditions, true!

[@LoveLikeaHurricane]

And why can’t the Type R be driven in any weather?

[@luckyluke9053]

@@LoveLikeaHurricane Never said it couldn't but generally speaking AWD handles better in the snow.

[@mengx94]

Cause the awd compensates for the bald tires

[@nthgth]

@@mengx94 not if you need to brake or steer

[@mst3rmind879]

Be careful driving fast on those canyon roads. I am a local firefighter who responds to the canyon you're driving on, and there's a ridiculous amount of accidents from people speeding. One of those roads you're driving on has a famous MTB spot and riders will ride the streets to get there. Be safe

[@Keithmeister9]

The Luge 🤙

[@Youtubewontletmecomment]

🫡

[@YasssStitch]

Should be called Corolla UB instead of GR. UB for unobtainable.

[@yongtimlim5038]

Are the markups bad?

[@ju4121]

@@yongtimlim5038 worst I seen is 5-10k for core. Not 25k for type r lol

[@saiーツ]

@@yongtimlim5038 very

[@omgteehee7572]

@@ju4121 I found one selling for around 65k 🥲

[@BIGE2333]

@@ju4121 where do you reside that your markup is only 5-10k

[@yma10]

6:37 idle is coming from a tiny 3 cylinder not a 4 cylinder lol

[@wheelwrightpl9429]

That is what passes for car reviews nowadays.

[@chrisdafurz]

@@wheelwrightpl9429 at 8:26 he does mention that it's a 3 cylinder. Probably just misspoke without thinking being that it was a one take kind of thing. He's probably used to all of the hot hatches being 4 cylinders and just misspoke

[@wheelwrightpl9429]

@@chrisdafurz Fair enough, at least he spoke the truth of how scratchy, dusty and greasy the black piano plastic is.

[@jakob9292]

He also listed the last gen civic type r

[@BarbWaltersMusic]

Just heard the same thing and went straight to the comments

[@aidanmento]

I was fortunate enough to get mine for MSRP and I've loved every second of owning one of these🤙

[@Sketchylemons]

^ f that

[@billpham632]

You got really lucky, there’s a 10k markup everywhere around me 😢

[@stevethomas760]

I put a deposit at a dealer 4/8/22 , msrp + $900 dealer ad ons. Car came in but it was in white. Called around 50 dealers looking for a red GR. Finally found one, MSRP +$1300 dealer ad ons. In the driveway. Feels pretty solid, I'll be glad to get to 1K miles so I can press the right pedal all the way.

[@rawevoli]

At 38k this is a LEGENDARY CAR! My problem with the GRC is that all the dealers around me want 10k+ markup. Spending 50-60k on a 40k car just makes you wanna buy a nicer car at msrp. This is how I ended up with a 23 m240i xdrive. Shouldn't be comparable and its an auto but with these markups its very comparable. Crazy to think a corolla is comparable with a cayman, supra, z, rs3 even... kills the hype quick unfortunately. Although if I didn't have an evo still I might have just gone for it too 😂

[@stevethomas760]

@@rawevoli It can be done, just a large hassle. Mine was 40K

[@Flatoutmediaco]

Man, I wish this car was available in high school! I would've totally driven it like I stole it! haha

[@MilesPerHr]

I had a GTi in high school and this is totally the same vibe. 😂

[@tumbili5375]

No chance in uk Cos of insurance ;(

[@rawevoli]

@@MilesPerHrI had a mk4 r32 and it totally is 😂

[@Yoshimatsu414]

3252 pounds is pretty light for a sport hatchback with AWD I think. GG Toyota 👍I personally would probably go GR Corolla, seems like the best of it's competition too me. For it's price, definitely gives you the most value, not too worried about too many comfort features in the car like this, just give me the modern car basics, manual transmission and make me smile while I'm driving light or hard and I'm good to go lol.

[@arno7303]

"deep idle from that 4 cylinder" lol

[@jbm0866]

I think the GR Corolla looks as it should, but then again I've always liked unusual looking cars. The normal Corolla hatch isnt exactly what you would call pretty (especially compared to the Mazda 3 or latest Civic) but it has a certain Subaru level of charm about it I really like. As for being proud? I'd be just as proud seeing the GR Corolla in my garage vs the Civic Type R or Golf R, and thats the truth. In spite of it looking like a tuner version of the normal Corolla hatch, only a few interior bits such as the dash, door panels and few other bits are interchangeable...it's a mostly handbuilt performance car made in the same special factory as the Lexus LFA and GR Yaris.

[@e.c.r4231]

Those GR Corolla are pushing the 65k to 70k it's ridiculous I hope the dealers get what they deserved after the market reajust

[@Youtubewontletmecomment]

Wow…seriously?

[@rawevoli]

At 38k this is a LEGENDARY CAR! My problem with the GRC is that all the dealers around me want 10k+ markup. Spending 50-60k on a 40k car just makes you wanna buy a nicer car at msrp. This is how I ended up with a 23 m240i xdrive. Shouldn't be comparable and its an auto but with these markups its very comparable. Crazy to think a corolla is comparable with a cayman, supra, z, rs3 even... kills the hype quick unfortunately. Although if I didn't have an evo still I might have just gone for it too 😂

[@yg78t76t7]

lol you're not gonna regret your decision...no way this econobox should be costing more than 30k Welcome to the BMW fam

[@jakeruiz7223]

After a year and a half of waiting I’m finally getting a 2024 loaded core in ssr in June!

[@icantdecideahandle]

congrats woo!!

[@funniestdudealive]

FL5 Civic Type R starting at $38,910? Where? The MSRP for the US is $43, 295

[@zackdl]

Part of me really wants one of these over a CTR…because its still a corolla and it would still be a fantastic and reliable daily driver.

[@NorthKoreasSon]

But the ctr is a civic.. meaning it'll also be a fantastic and reliable daily driver

[@Align700nitro]

The more I look at the interior, the more I hate that pop up MFD on right. Don't really like screen instrument either but that's a personal thing. This car is gold from every aspect.

[@martingriggs6362]

I drove a GR Corolla core model with the performance pack a couple weeks ago. The car I drove was a Toyota rep. car with 4500 miles. The salesman just handed me the keys, and said have fun. I did. Test driving a car like this alone is the way to go. Never thought I would drive a car more fun than my Fiesta ST I had, this car was!

[@Duuhvis]

I cannot think of another sports car I have had the pleasure to drive that gave me as big of a smile as this car has given me. Glad I bought one! And glad to see you enjoyed this as well! Personally I think it’s better looojg than the type R. Enjoy the racer boy aesthetic this gives off

[@AA-vc9ep]

I ended up going for the GRC… my opinion is that it looked better and it was cheaper. I do agree you probably couldn’t go wrong with either.

[@georgeparaskevopoulos6601]

I would go for the Toyota. I used to be a Golf R fan but I wouldn’t say so with the latest generation. They have gotten it so wrong in many aspects like the cabin for example.

[@AzNightmare]

6:34 *You mean from the 3 cylinder* 😃

[@seanbautista9445]

I am so happy you did a review on this GR Corolla bc I was deciding on either in the future get the Kona N or a Golf R but I'm really liking this GR Corolla more.

[@captainravioli1710]

I knew that canyon looked familiar! I'm pretty sure that's Santiago Canyon in CA. I happen to live very close by and work at one of the local Toyota dealerships! I've been wanting to see how a GR Corolla would perform in that canyon ever since it was announced. Fantastic video!

[@christianmartinez6755]

I was like, I feel like he’s in Irvine with those roads in the beginning hahahaha

[@HectorPerez]

Great review of the 2023 Toyota GR Corolla Core. Well done, MPH!

[@MilesPerHr]

Thanks, Hector!

[@PointShiftDrive]

GR Corolla all the way! its the only actual real 4WD. Not to mention it was built in the same factory as the Lexus LFA and closely monitored by the president of Toyota. What this review doesnt mention is how solid the GR feels inside. because its literally built like a Lexus. I think the CTR is great, BUT. I dont like that its actually slightly slower than the car it replaced. I also dont like how boy racer that is on the inside. The GR, with those hips, actually doesnt attract much attention to those who dont know. so it can be a grown up car or family vehicle and yet, still be FUN!

[@ericdouglas7039]

Excellent write up as you hit on all the important parts that make the GR Corolla the better choice. I would only add that also the GR has a classic hand brake and sounds better than the CTR

[@wheelwrightpl9429]

Better quality interior than the more expensive Circuit Edition, because it has less those awful black piano plastics (I mean places like door grab-handles and window-buttons panel).

[@CRatcliffe]

Just so you know the side vents on the core aren’t functional. They’re blocked by the fender well

[@thesilentsk3471]

6:36 It has a 3-Cylinder and has LED rear turn signals.

[@flyingchicken33]

my dealer in canada started to get them in and ive been told that they're marking them up $20,000. So in Canada it became $65,000 STARTING, and of course I canceled my order. I contacted Toyota Canada and they literally told me they cannot tell what the dealers should be pricing. They are totally going to have a bunch of cancellations, and I know a few people that have already.

[@Jorgensen1120]

Subscribed due to GR Content, thanks 🙏

[@maximilianochoo7660]

In my opinion the looks of the new type R are better but i dont think the corolla looks bad

[@solomonw5665]

As an American contemplating anothers' vernacular, I feel my state of view got to be crazed but I wouldn't use the word pedestrian to describe anything.

[@dougmaverick3287]

I currently drive a Veloster N which is a lot of fun, the issue I have as with all fwd high powered vehicles is getting the power down. I get a lot of horrible wheel hop which violently shakes the entire car, which is why I am either getting the GR Corolla or the manual Golf R, I have deposits down for both. How does the ride quality of the GRC & Mk8 Golf R compare to the Veloster N? The ride in my Veloster N is about as firm as I can take. I did test drive a Mk7.5 Golf R and found the ride very comfortable with the suspension in normal mode.

[@KonaNthusiast]

Both cars are a good bit more comfortable than a veloster N. I would recommend trying out a new motor Mount for your VN. I did that for my KN and I hook 8 times out to 10. Even when I don’t hook, I don’t ever get violent shaking anymore

[@merocgaming]

”I like big butts”, that killed me.😂😂😂

[@curtfox91]

I think the Core looks sick. Nothing reminds me of a Basic Corolla. And i like the Simple interior reminds me of the EVO and you cant beat the torque splits. 1.6 L thick thick block can take all the 300hp With ease

[@randomvids2882]

Everything but the power should remind you of a regular corolla

[@curtfox91]

@@randomvids2882 its Not a Regular Corolla and it never will and Power alone aren’t you forgetting the AWD system,Thicker Chassis,Dampened Suspension. Regular corolla has none of it. It’s also made at the GR compounds in Japan. Unlike Most regular Corollas.

[@KD6-3005]

@RandomVids you're joking right...? Why hate on it? Not to mention the corollas already a great car with an amazing interior

[@KD6-3005]

@@curtfox91 not to mention the ability to split the power and drift the mfer

[@ITSMINECRAFTTIME32]

@@curtfox91 it has chassis reinforcement but it’s not a thicker chassis it’s a Corolla with a tundra rear diff and a 3 cylinder this is definitely a Corolla which isn’t a bad thing but it’s exactly what Subaru used to do make Imprezas then build WRX’s and STI’s off of the Imprezas before they’re latest 2 models.

[@strifu808]

Adore the humor and enthusiastic review! Subbed and liked!

[@30hours51]

what drove me away from the CtR is the fact that it is too focused on track, it is too focused on lap times it is too focused on the nurburgring, this is a better daily while CtR is a better toy. If i have money id get both but this is the one i'd buy for $40k, it's more contemporary, it is more useable in all weathers while having that 30/70 torque split to have that rwd/awd fun that civic type r cant have

[@r3games1985]

Great driving car but for $50.000 where I live that's way too high for basic corolla interior.

[@XantoS771]

Civic Type R has a better front facia but this GR Corolla has a way better rear end! I can't stand that "glued on" tuner-esque spoiler they added on the Type R. All they had to do was modernize a EK Civic...not "ruin" it with a "Need For Speed" spoiler

[@nthgth]

Totally agree. The new Type R can't come out soon enough, for that very reason

[@nthgth]

Oh, I thought you meant the FK8. Still agree though.

[@Xchax3]

Eh, it's not for everyone. I think the CTR is better because the wing isn't as "Need for Speed" as it was on the FK8. And it's functional. I'm enjoying it. I'm just looking forward to having more power capability. As much as I love the G16E-GTS and it only having 3 cylinders, its limitations on the GR Yaris have been evident.

[@based_will]

I personally think the GR Corolla looks the best out of the three. Just put a deposit down, I’m 20th in line at my local Toyota dealer so I might get one in 2 years or so 😂

[@richurro20]

If you missed out on the 2023 Toyoto GR I have good news, Toyota is making a 2024 version with more being produced.

[@GamingwithIinfected]

This is an awesome car! But for the price of 40k? Not so much. I can get a mustang for similar pricing with much more power and still a manual. Different cars sure but this doesnt offer a ton more room over a mustang either.

[@liudxdx]

Isn’t the Type R’s MSRP around $44k?

[@omardrives]

This thing is so much fun! Can't wait to drive the Civic Type R!

[@JohnNdichu-gj7fn]

i have ten am selling

[@SilverScarletSpider]

i want to buy this for msrp ❤

[@ragnarokguild]

Curious as to how the auto revmatch functions if you go straight from 5th to 3rd gear

[@killaspycdr5560]

"Deep idle from that 4 cylinder" 🤦‍♂️🤣

[@dalomkasihan]

Good car.. I like this.. 👍👍

[@brandtcarroll9316]

"become very proficient in manual" while approaching a red light going 20mph in 5th gear without downshifting. Mmk lol

[@Indestructable]

wot a little beauty, would definitely take this over the type R or the VW

[@RobustArid379]

Corolla is a type of flower.

[@Sgten01]

In nz these things are $65k drive away and instock, but we only get circuit edition though

[@vincefairleigh6899]

I don’t care too much how it looks, I live in Canada in the west coast and drive in Alberta frequently so an all wheel drive car is definitely better than a front wheel drive car any day, it does look great.

[@michun1988]

Incredible job from Toyota for real raw racing cars fan. It seems like pure fun. Im glad that Japanese still making real cars beside of rest of European manufacturers…

[@550r]

Odd that it doesn't have trajectory lines in the backup camera as the GR Yaris does have them, you'd think it would be the same software etc.

[@mindspinn311]

Santiago/Silverado/Modjeska canyon!

[@adonisceynas2587]

I love manual trnsmission.. here int he Philippines they only release the AT version

[@gojjjddoooj]

I have a 22 corolla hatchback XSE 6MT and i wish they used the spoiler they have on my car on the GR! it looks kinda funny with that tiny one! i was expecting better interior in a 50k car but it is identical to mine!

[@ur31337]

No it isn't.

[@gojjjddoooj]

@@ur31337 then you dont own an xse lol only thing i see different is the dash screen

[@ur31337]

@gojjjd doooj I'm a master certified Toyota salesman, they're different. I've sold plenty of hatches, your XSE style included. ;-)

[@ur31337]

@@gojjjddoooj You're correct, I don't own one, I sell Toyota every day. ;-) XSE has SofTex the GR has fabric trimmed seats (less slippy on a track or spirited driving), a smaller and different gauge cluster on the XSE. Steering wheel different on the GR, headrests different on GR. Differential controls on the GR. We're only talking Core grade here. You move up to a Circuit and we're even more so. Have a great day and enjoy your XSE 6MT, those are highly desireable. On a quick glance, yes they are very similar. Look closely, they are not. The cost savings of repurposing an existing model by reusing most of the interior is one of the reasons they ACTUALLY were able to build this car.

[@oraclemiata845]

Lol, master certified car salesman… 😂 master of the markup…

[@alexandredufour7358]

Looks better than the type r but the interior is much better in the type r

[@DandyDan123]

Yaris is what we (USA) need!

[@z32luvr]

I’m not a fan of the design or interior. I’m sure it’s a blast to drive. I’d easily take the Type Rover this.

[@takaradope]

I would love to get this car but I know it will be rare and have an insane markup

[@ur31337]

I found 37 of them available at MSRP, if you are ok without the performance package.

[@kimboofdzners9574]

There is no freaking way to pay for this car, I hate it has the Corolla brand on it. Toyota should have named it something else.

[@ur31337]

@@kimboofdzners9574 I would have rather them brought the GR Yaris over

[@keithr5591]

Put an arm rest and better seat cloth materials and then I'll consider paying upwards of 45k to 55k for a gr. It's ridiculous. They don't even resell at auction for what dealers sell them for.

[@faismain2faisal686]

Very Steady 👍👍👍👍

[@Weuds]

A heads up at 16:39 the Type R MSRP is 44,390.

[@prettypenny8563]

Bro u drive with fluidity like loosen up my guy

[@scubajoe3321]

The taillight turn signals are leds

[@LondonHasFallin]

The rear wide-body panels look goofy. IMOP. 4:10 Especially when you lifted the hatch 💀

[@matthewperez4218]

Do you think this would b a good first car?

[@rasundesilva6088]

Really sad what’s happening to this car. It’s made for people like me but I’ll never be able to get one.

[@cherfaouiabdelmoumene8392]

Dream car

[@BlackWolf-it7qk]

No, he called it a 4 cylinder. It's a 3 cylinder.

[@curtfox91]

You said it was a 4 Clyinder 🤔

[@christopherbassit2757]

I’ve had mine for a year 🎉

[@marcoslovato877]

Love your reviews man you're the best,im literally thinking of getting this over the civic si or R cuz prices are ridiculous

[@wojiaobill]

this car looks amazing to drive! that being said, given the choice i would take the type r, BUT, those things are rare as unicorns these days

[@JCTiggs1]

In my region the Corolla GR core is the same price as a Golf R. The R has a much nicer interior and overall feels more premium compared to the Corolla. Despite that it's still a difficult decision on which one to go with. 🤔

[@brentgarcia7759]

It's nice to read comments from the past, so what did you end up getting if I may ask and why? 👀🍿

[@JCTiggs1]

@@brentgarcia7759 I ended up getting 2024 Golf R and love it but honestly still miss my 2019 Mustang GT PP lol. The R is great, ultimately I preferred it for the larger engine and turbo, resale value (in Canada, not sure about USA) and the DSG dual clutch transmission (the manual didn't feel nearly as quick).I've been driving stick for over 30 years and while it's fun, if I'm spending that kind of money I want the fastest version of the R :).

[@brentgarcia7759]

@@JCTiggs1 I live in Canada too (SK) it's nice you got AWD, sleeper look, space, and Audi like interior. Thanks for sharing brother, safe drive out there this summer ✌️

[@JCTiggs1]

@@brentgarcia7759 You have a safe summer as well! If you're still considering both you can't go wrong with either. I do find the GR is over priced in Canada even at MSRP since Toyota does a straight USD to CAD conversion. The Golf R in the spec I bought was $48K in USD but only $55K in Canada. In Germany the R is almost $80K CAD after conversion!

[@slash11lipo]

Excellent review! Do you happen to know what the revs are at 70 and 80 mph in 6th?

[@NyQuil.Relief]

Wish it had an option for an 8 Speed DCT ngl

[@americansmark]

I don't get the hype. The exterior styling is 2005 Mazda and the interior is plastic and bland. The drive is obviously nice, but I wouldn't want to live with the rest of the car.

[@bamboosho0t]

Love the FL5 Type R design better; more "grown up." But there is something about the GR Corolla design that still pulls at my heartstrings.

[@christosandro9413]

I think it looks awesome just not a lot of Is room inside

[@peter9930]

sad part is you won't be getting any of those cars at MSRP 😥

[@CRatcliffe]

There are some people who have

[@ur31337]

@@CRatcliffe I've seen a bunch, actually

[@tenkayruanaya2554]

whats the top psi nunmber on the dash board ??

[@iZephiroth]

The Type R definitely looks much better. It’s such a beautifully done design.

[@romeropostali520]

Hi, I had mine Dyno’d stock and make 219whp and my 0-60 is also around 5.8 seconds on draggy. Rare/unique car. Fast…no!

[@jb6574]

That is disappointing.

[@jdmbren13]

One u thing u can’t see through video is how you overpowering the dashboard and cockpit feel of this car is , something the civic can’t do at all, I have a rcF and this car feels sportier inside, didn’t occur to me at all until u actually sit in it Feels like ur in dirt rally 2.0

[@gsr2envy]

Wait did you say at 6:38 a four cylinder? Lol I thought it was a 3 cylinder

[@sesh3508]

I just paid 38K for my 22 accord sport 2.0t, if I could trade it for a GR Corolla core I’d do it in a heartbeat

[@TheKsae]

Looks better in person but still toy-ish in the same way previous type r was

[@jamesmedina6015]

I love ❤️ Toyota cars 🚗 mane

[@blown9646]

Cool car

[@Sunburst6520]

Look to Jesus, the son of the most high God, believe his word. Seek God and his sweet amazing grace. Good people don't always use their eyes.

[@timnalichkin]

Вот это кайф!

[@alengreen589]

we have also a Corolla GR Sport in Germany, as a Hybrid with 193 HP and it cost only $ 45k

[@johnbraucher1499]

They should have made a coupe version.

[@GOLDEN.JET.]

Day 1 asking to review the Rezvani Vengeance all options and extras.

[@NewIdeas226]

God can you imagine paying over MRSP for this. The interior is worse than a civic from 5 years ago.

[@halopcdraco]

6:37 You mean 3 cylinder? You turned on the rev matching, but never showed that but I see you rev matching yourself instead through out your video?

[@alengreen589]

How is that possible that this AWD 300 HP car is slower from 0 - 60 as a FWD Elantra N with 280 HP?

[@FloridaFamilyTV]

Gearing

[@pichkari1632]

I prefer Elantra n over this for pure driving joy especially the cornering on that, exhaust sound and infotainment seems nicer

[@XantoS771]

They are already pushing the FWD configuration with that amount of power...AWD is required here...plus the GR Corolla is a Toyota...which will keep it's value and be reliable, even 10 years from now.

[@oraclemiata845]

@@XantoS771 making up excuses already…