The 2024 Alfa Romeo Tonale May Just Keep Alfa Alive In The U.S. | MotorWeek Road Test

While #AlfaRomeo officially returned to the U.S in 2008 with the exotic 8C, they got a lot more intentional with the arrival of 2017’s Guilia sedan and 2018’s Stelvio utility. Well, 2024 sees their lineup expand even more with this #Tonale compact crossover. Let’s find out what this practical Italian performer has to offer. #AlfaRomeoTonale
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[@travr1131]

Best looking compact crossover on the market.

[@automotivetv9861]

I agree, unfortunately I think its also the most unreliable crossover on the market.

[@noahh.8737]

@@automotivetv9861we don’t know that yet but i wouldn’t doubt it

[@kwamea.n1723]

with the Cupra Formentor, in europe, not qure it'q in the us

[@danielknight7256]

$50,000 for a three year lease lol

[@Yugetubes]

The base model is well below that to buy...

[@GoldPhish]

The Ti is 309 a month for leasing. And it’s the only Alfa with ventilated seats for some reason

[@moeschizlac]

Alfa Romeo has taken the place formerly occupied by Mitsubishi in the U.S. during the 90's, teaming up with Dodge and Chrysler.

[@rlsedition]

I don't believe that would have been Alfa's choice, as Dodge is a far less expensive brand, with much less handling-related technology. The Giulia/Stelvio vehicles, for example, are far too good for Dodge, which could never charge their customers the necessary prices for Alfa technologies. Bottom line: Alfa is likely to get screwed in this potential component sharing plan, forced to use more conventional product solutions to cater to Dodge, like using MacPherson struts rather than unequal length control arm front suspensions (like in Giulia/Stelvio).

[@dohc1067]

I like the rear and side profile more than the front. The interior isn't bad either.

[@ericbritton9346]

I normally bash on SUV crossovers, bit I like certain crossovers that looks nice, but only the compact size crossovers. This Alfa Romeo Tonala look cool that I wouldn't mind daily driving, and thank God is not a CVT. The Dodge Hornet looks sporty but the Tonala looks and feels sporty with luxury, similar to the Gulia

[@Ron4T1]

Wait 2 years and buy this for half the price.

[@LEVELMotorsports]

Stelvio QV owner here. I’ve owned 63 cars and the Stelvio QV is my favorite. Those 63 include Hellcats, an Evo X, old school Hondas like the GS-R Integra, and Porsches. I got one of these Tonales as a loaner when my Stelvio was in for service. This is one of the worst vehicles I’ve ever driven. Real world electrical range was about 35 miles and after that this thing was ridiculously slow. Interior build quality wasn’t great either. I’d take a Mazda CX-5 or CX-50 turbo over this in this price range any day. Spend your high 40K budget on a lightly used Stelvio Quadrafoglio with an extended warranty and be happier with your purchase.

[@2steaksandwiches665]

I have a Giulia quad. It isn’t for most. The maintenance is very very expensive and often. It’s an 80 grand car with the corresponding maintenance expected. Buy a Camry v6 and it will be good for most

[@MegaRetr]

Awesome Alfa Romeo Tonale

[@douglasb.1203]

Have not seen a single Dodge Hornet in the last year anywhere. Stellantis, you've got a winner.

[@rlsedition]

Well, that might be because the Hornet hasn't been on sale for a year yet.

[@douglasb.1203]

@rlsedition it's nice being wrong. The Hornet GT went on sale the end of Fall 2022. The Hornet RT in Spring of 2023. Seeing that it's been on sale FOR A YEAR, I still haven't seen a single one. Knowledge it's priceless.

[@rlsedition]

@@douglasb.1203 Hey, smartass, I could care less what Dodge does, as long as it doesn't harm Alfa. In this case, Alfa did all the grunt work and Dodge got a new car for doing very little, and even received the much lower price they wanted on their base (volume) car. The Tonale, which is doing well in Europe (where Dodge isn't sold), is a non-starter in the US due to its high price. OBTW, I've seen plenty of "Hornets" (Tonale copycats) on my roads. If this is how Stellantis is going to do component sharing among Alfa and its sister divisions, Alfa is, indeed, doomed as a brand. Brands sharing platforms is a much-used industry practice, but you have to do it carefully to be successful; look at the VW Golf and Audi A3, which share just about everything you can't see/touch, but look nothing alike in exterior/interior. Dodge doesn't have the market position Alfa has (entry lux) and will just dumb down Alfa's future specs in pursuit of volume if Stellantis continues on this path.

[@douglasb.1203]

@rlsedition sad when a person cannot own their words and deflects the conversation. You do you. Stay Ignorant.

[@rlsedition]

@@douglasb.1203 Who the hell do you think you are? All-knowing car enthusiast? Hardly. What are your credentials? OK, so you remembered more about the Hornet timing than I did. I didn't keep close track of it, but I sure made a stink about the Alfa Tonale rip-off Online, and the Hornet early US release was just another nail in Alfa's coffin, at least in the US. As I said, Stellantis apparently doesn't know how to manage their brands so one doesn't devour the other, while the VW Group knows how to make all their brands flourish. Unfortunate, but true.

[@1970HondaCL100]

It won’t.

[@TheRealSmithFamily]

Alfa dealer closed in our community. I only ever see a handful of them here, and honestly, I’d never own one. They’re beautiful soulful vehicles, but I need something dead reliable/repairable.

[@zzoinks]

Somebody who doesn't mind the tradeoff would likely be an Alfa customer

[@rlsedition]

@@zzoinks Where's you data, guys? The Giulia/Stelvio vehicles are just as reliable as their German competition. My Giulia has been dead reliable for the two years I've owned it.

[@VideoAmericanStyle]

Alfa is on its way out in the U.S. (again). Stellantis screwed it up royally, from the abysmal dealer network to the same-old concerns about reliability.

[@rlsedition]

@@VideoAmericanStyle Agree about Stellantis, but the Giulia/Stelvio cars work just fine, with roughly the same reliability as BMW/Merc/Audi. My Giulia hasn't been back to the dealer in the two years I've owned it, and it 's great to drive.

[@bh2155]

​​@@rlseditionmost of the problem with AR is that Americans harbor views about unreliability issues from 40 years ago. There is nothing as unreliable as a BMW, Mercedes or Audi. Right here on KZbin every " Cars to Avoid" videos posted include a BMW and Audi. It's been that way for years.

[@codycrawford2385]

Kinda wish dodge did something different with the hornet I like them both but they look way to much alike

[@2steaksandwiches665]

Dodge is lazy.

[@rabit818]

It’s hard for the Tonale to compete with the Hornet. I wonder which Stellantis want to kill, Dodge or Alfa

[@rustbeltrobclassic2512]

If only they named it something i could buy.. "i drive a fungus green toe nail" 😂

[@TBird100636]

3:10 - Both the Hornet and Tonale share the same platform with the Jeep Compass.

[@Michael_Livingstone]

Looks like a nice car, but I wouldn’t trust it for a one vehicle household due to uncertain reliability.

[@djbrianc]

So John, you just gonna dis the 2014 4c like that? The 500 launch editions came out then as 2015’s

[@Cancerian816]

Alfa Romeo returned to the US without us realising it; look up the CXOver Concept...Mazda has been oozing their technology over the years, compare the CXOver to the current CX- lineup, starting with the CX-7...

[@wompa70]

I don't think the slight materials difference justifies the price gap between this and the Dodge. The base dodge has more cargo room because it's NOT a hybrid.

[@rlsedition]

Yeah, Stellantis screwed Alfa on this deal. This is an Alfa, not a Dodge. Like a forced marriage.

[@hamidmehboob253]

Hello john davis i am u old fan 2016 year show dish chennal i am search your chanel nice man john davis love u

[@JDMHaze]

Haven’t seen a single dodge hornet yet in the streets😂😂

[@hakeemsd70m]

Neither have I 😂 I have already seen a Toyota Crown this month. Poor Dodge... Not 😂

[@JDMHaze]

@@hakeemsd70m I’ve seen a few Toyota crowns, and there’s actually plenty at the dealership down the street from my house… Maybe if dodge her and try to hold onto that journey for so long People would remember dodge still existed in that class lol Dodge literally only sells 3 vehicles…hornet, durango, charger/challenger… and chrysler literally only has 2 A minivan in the 300 lol

[@calebwoods9358]

This is neat and all, but hearing it has a 6 speed automatic transmission is shocking.

[@noahh.8737]

why?

[@sshah2545]

The TOENAIL is truly the perfect description of the love child of Dodge and Alfa. This vehicle is going to redefine reliability. Toyota better watch out.

[@anthonykiedis1765]

😂😂😂

[@djbrianc]

It’s Tonale’ pronounced “Tow -nile-lay “🤦🏾‍♂️ 😊

[@sshah2545]

@djbrianc I know exactly how it’s pronounced. Toenail.

[@user-ve4fw9sk7f]

So original.

[@douglasb.1203]

1.3 litres turbocharged to hell seems durable.

[@user-ve4fw9sk7f]

"A" has ALWAYS stood for advanced efficiency in DNA.

[@user-cj4sm8hv9y]

Young Possession

[@PasleyAviationPhotography]

I'm excited for its high performance version, the hang nail

[@MeliorIlle]

Cringe avatar

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

​@@MeliorIlle Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🇺🇦✌🏻

[@MeliorIlle]

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[@roberthoyt7921]

This would make the Dodge Hornet a laughing stock. However, will Alfa consider a QV version of the Tonale?

[@noahh.8737]

if anything the dodge hornet makes the alpha a laughing stock cause it’s the exact same thing for way cheaper

[@daison96]

Dead on arrival. A few hundred may be sold if they're lucky.

[@rlsedition]

The Tonale is selling fine in Europe, where there is no sibling that borrowed the look and all the mechanicals like Dodge did here.

[@Yugetubes]

They are all sold before they even arrive. Can't keep them on the lot....

[@rlsedition]

@@Yugetubes Interesting.

[@2steaksandwiches665]

@@rlsedition the hornet has something like a 500 day supply in the US. Nobody’s buying those either.

[@2steaksandwiches665]

The hornet has a something like 500 days supply in the US. No way is that cannibalizing sales from this. The hornet an objective flop.

[@karols432]

Stellantis has wasted no time pumping out garbage

[@oscardelarosa8217]

A bit expensive for a tiny SUV.

[@user-cj4sm8hv9y]

Hot Rod Crossover

[@bh2155]

I saw one of these vehicles the other day on the road. It has a very nice upscale and classy presence. I would never buy it because I dont like crossovers.

[@VideoAmericanStyle]

I predict Alfa will once again leave the US market within the next 5 years. It’s just not working under Stellantis. You can tell things aren’t going hot when their most exciting new vehicle is also a Dodge.

[@mikojarvinen6273]

Actually the Dodge is a rebadge Alfa Romeo. They’re both designed and built in Italy by Alfa Romeo

[@krishpanzade7109]

Wrong, the dodge is a rebadged Alfa, Alfa Romeo wasn't happy when they had to give the dodge that car but Stellantis forced them to.

[@VideoAmericanStyle]

@@krishpanzade7109 It's poor strategy, either way. Between product dilution and the abysmal dealer network, Stellantis is ruining Alfa's already dwindling chances of survival in the U.S.

[@CalvinHikes]

Its pronounced Toe-nail quit trying to church it up.

[@anthonykiedis1765]

The Alfa Toenail.

[@petervitti9]

I think the grille on the Edsel looks better. Maybe its a update on a classic ! 😂

[@Butchcub75]

Id hate to say this but I think the Hornet looks better. But Im sure it has the same "stellar" reliability :) LOL.

[@kenpodad7316]

I don't ont trust afla look at the Dodge Hornet major problems just look around and search it. You can lease one but dont buy one just like Volkswagens.

[@nvkulk]

Dead at 50k miles

[@spg5658]

Stelantis is killing it! 😎👍

[@billzkustomz]

No.

[@LearnAboutFlow]

Go watch the Consumer Reports review of the Alfa 'toenail' to get a reality check on what a piece of crap this vehicle really is. The Stelvio is the one to go for if you want an Alfa SUV.

[@exoditegrayc]

"Mutter Weak" strikes again with worthless unreliable tests/reviews.

[@flurpoid]

Automakers like Alfa abandoning what drew people to the brand to begin with in order to chase trends will be their undoing. This vehicle compromises so much to provide so little.

[@user-hv8vu8dg9x]

They probably were powerless if Dodge owns Alfa now

[@rlsedition]

@@user-hv8vu8dg9x No, Dodge doesn't "own" Alfa, but Stellantis owns both brands, to Alfa's displeasure I'm sure.

[@user-hv8vu8dg9x]

To think how great Alfa was and now the car is based on a Dodge😢

[@hakeemsd70m]

Actually, the Dodge is based on the Alfa. But I feel your pain.

[@wallybeegone]

So a really expensive dodge hornet.

[@TBird100636]

Yes and no... Compared to the Hornet GT, which is not PHEV, the Tonale is more expensive, Hornet GT starts at $30,000. The equivalent to the Tonale is the Hornet R/T PHEV, which is about the same price, starting at $45,000, with options it goes a tick above $50,000

[@mateosmithy5668]

0-60 is sad considering HP and Torque output - Must be a lead sled? And the price means it won’t sell well. Considering it’s basically a Dodge in hiding.

[@mikojarvinen6273]

You got it wrong. The Dodge is actually Alfa Romeo. Both are designed and built in Italy.

[@basshead.]

@@mikojarvinen6273 You say it like it's a good thing lol.

[@mikojarvinen6273]

@@basshead. Why is it a bad thing? Unless you mean the fact Stellantis forced Alfa Romeo to build rebadged Dodge versions of their car. That’s bad for the brand image. Why couldn’t they just rebadge Jeep Compass as Dodge?

[@basshead.]

@@mikojarvinen6273 You aren't very sharp, are you?

[@mikojarvinen6273]

@@basshead. So your argument is an insult? Impossible to know what’s happening in your head. It seems though you just base your knowledge on stereotypes. I think you’re completely biased. So biased in fact that you don’t even notice how strongly it affects you. Based on my experience with American build quality I honestly think Italians have higher level of precision. Do they have room to improve? Absolutely but they’re much better than what you might think.

[@noseefood1943]

6 spd automatic? It’s 2023 not 2013…

[@jonathansmith1590]

Be thankful it's not a CVT 😌

[@rlsedition]

The electric motor obviates the need for anything more than six speeds.

[@EVRevolution]

I'm glad too to see it only in a PHEV version. I would rather have seen an all-electric, but will take what we can get. For the price point, I really don't see too much that is "wow" with this, yet another SUV/Crossover to hit the streets. I really wish we start seeing more affordable EVs and really don't need more SUVs.

[@Dennisg26]

Gloried dodge hornet

[@richardwilliams5842]

You're better off getting the Dodge Hornet which is the same car but rebadged and a whole lot CHEAPER SMH

[@roberthoyt7921]

We'll go for the Alfa anyway.

[@u2fan29]

You're better off getting a Rav4 or Crv and take a vacation in Italy with the rest of the money.

[@TBird100636]

If it was a Hornet GT, which is not PHEV, you would be right. Hornet GT starts at $30,000. However, the equivalent to the Tonale is the Hornet R/T PHEV, which is about the same price, starting at $45,000, with options it goes a tick above $50,000

[@AlexWhoBetter]

It looks so sad 😞 I can’t unsee it

[@billzkustomz]

"kill me" - Alfa tonale

[@rlsedition]

Show me a current CUV that looks better.

[@VideoAmericanStyle]

@@rlsedition The Mazda CX lineup is a pretty nice package, all around. Probably drives much better than this, too.

[@billzkustomz]

@@rlsedition Corolla cross..

[@rlsedition]

@@VideoAmericanStyle Perhaps, but we haven't seen those two compared.

[@u2fan29]

Same family, just another junk from Fiat, Fix It Again Tony.

[@snafu4696]

Hand tattoos are extremely unprofessional

[@rushmatic]

I couldn’t agree with you more. Thank you!

[@flurpoid]

It's 2023 and sheltered Karens are still crying about tattoos?

[@8487023471]

Mind your business

[@Outcastiid]

Imagine caring

[@CalledbyGrace-zs1dl]

Face tattoos say, "Please don't hire me." Lol