I was also extremely disappointed with the stale refresh with the gladiator. Taking away the diesel and giving us no new engine option was a joke. I bought a 23 Jt and was afraid I’d be trading it back in on a 24. Not the case. Glad I got a deep discounted 23. Great video.
@bruce88wayne11 ай бұрын
Same here. I just got my 23 a couple months ago. Was scared I’d be wanting to trade it in. Not the case. Glad I got my discounted JT. I got $12k off.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Right on!
@johnreno89097 ай бұрын
does anyone know what is happening, it is already feb.2024 and gladiators still are NOT available ??? WTF???
@leemen7 ай бұрын
@@johnreno8909 I think a dealer can order you a 24. The 24s are showing up at dealers. I think they have it set up so you can’t build a 24 on there site to help sell off all of the 23s. Just my opinion.
@johnreno89097 ай бұрын
@@leemen YES they ARE late bcoz 23s still there but when is official mass-production start date of 24s???
@jk889711 ай бұрын
It is Stellantis leadership problem. Jeep needs to be bought back by an American company ASAP.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
That might be a help!
@bigmacmach118511 ай бұрын
Def a disappointment. Clearly ran by a non American company. Know your demographic, clearly they don't. I will be keeping my 22 Gobi willys for now.
@trentwillis723311 ай бұрын
Seriously? Back to absolutely no quality control in the K car days?
@jjames21627 ай бұрын
You guys are ridiculous listen to yourselves.
@nealamesbury79536 ай бұрын
@@jjames2162that's rich
@karmicforce0111 ай бұрын
Our community spoke... we did nothing. Preach brother. 392.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Needed the 392
@nitroxide1711 ай бұрын
I want a motor other than the pentastar. The diesel was cool but that’s gone too
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
With you!
@Nikephorus11 ай бұрын
I'm still hoping for a two-door Gladiator like that blue concept from a few years ago. I know it's unlikely to happen, but that was my dream truck.
@youtubecarspottersguide111 ай бұрын
and a 6' box shorter wheel base
@btbcc1285911 ай бұрын
Honestly who has 2 doors in that class?
@youtubecarspottersguide111 ай бұрын
@@btbcc12859 club cab /supercab/ king cab was poplar at one time need a 6' box over a back seat I want to sleep in the back of my. truck no roof top tent
@michaelrocha715911 ай бұрын
@btbcc12859 Tacoma which is the Gladiators biggest competition still has a 2 door option
@michaeldemarco995011 ай бұрын
Yep. A 2-DR based on the Wrangler Unlimited.
@BeowulfHagen11 ай бұрын
To stay competitive, it needed new powertrain options. Unless Jeep does some sort of secondary big reveal, the Bison, Ranger Raptor, GMC Bison, and Trailhunter will take further market share.
@adam_mawz_maas11 ай бұрын
Yep, this was the year to do either a 392 or launch the 3.0TT Hurricane on the JT/JL platform.
@alexkuehne382211 ай бұрын
100% agree. They dropped the ball on this.
@backwoodstherapy11 ай бұрын
@@alexkuehne3822good news, might can get a great deal on a JT aat the end of next year when Jeep can't sell new ones. 😅
@Redneck_Wizard11 ай бұрын
Good, less posers who don't off road driving Jeeps.
@dennisreynolds691511 ай бұрын
Id buy one of the base models with a stick shift if they came with the straight 6 tt they are releasing. Putting that garbage 3.6 in again is teh kiss of death
@WooleySwampAdventures11 ай бұрын
Needs the 5.7 and a 6" shorter bed. A 392 hi end option would be nice, but a 5.7 in the Rubicon's, Mojave's and Willys is needed to continue the model. JMHO but I believe shared by the masses.
@youtubecarspottersguide111 ай бұрын
shorter wheel base 118"-121" and 6' box id be there ,can add a cab high camper shell / pop up top no need to top heavy roof top tents etc
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
With you!
@vaprojecto11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't be shocked if the Gladiator is discontinued after this year. They put minimum effort into this and there is a huge amount of competition in the midsize truck segment now. The big discounts and even 2022s still on lots doesn't look good.
@trevinated11 ай бұрын
Completely agree. Disappointed that I actually feel the same.
@jlv3x11 ай бұрын
Everyone is screaming for more power in the Gladiators, yet Jeep is refusing to do it.
@Obi_4xe11 ай бұрын
Jeep has already announced that they are going to stop selling Gladiators in Europe. So with no 4xe announcement today, and Jim M's vague answer about the whole lineup being electrified by 2025, still doesn't mean that Gladiators will be part of the lineup in 2025.
@trevinated11 ай бұрын
@@jlv3x even adding 4xe to the lineup would've given some options at least.
@Helixur11 ай бұрын
Jeep went lazy on the gladiator man. They def won't be sold now 😅😂
@Kevin_OU_00711 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you. Very disappointed no 392.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Needed more power 😅
@joshsteuterman236311 ай бұрын
Ding and dents are memories. Love that you mentioned that.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Thanks Josh!
@BeowulfHagen11 ай бұрын
This is a huge disappointment. Lack luster presentation and no release of anything meaningful to help bring in customers against their competition. I would have signed the check immediately if they would have released a 5.7, 392, 4xe, or Hurricane. All the other stuff is easily add after talking possession.
@stevecarnovale755911 ай бұрын
Possibly nail in coffin for gladiator sales
@mdhandley1111 ай бұрын
100%
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Right?!
@robyork95546 ай бұрын
Yep. Who cares about a 12" infotainment screen or electric seats? What a letdown.
@jessitaylor417011 ай бұрын
I would go buy a 2024 Gladiator right now if they put a Hemi in it!
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Same!
@wordgiesworld548311 ай бұрын
I was very underwhelmed with the reveal today. Nothing about what they did for ‘24 is talking me into trading in my ‘22. I was really hoping for a HEMI, an 4XE, or at LEAST the Extreme Recon package. The AEV package is cool, but I’m sure that’ll set you back quite a bit. In all honesty, though, I prefer the MOPAR steel bumper and optional hoop. I’d rather see the Extreme Recon in it. Another great video, by the way. Love your honesty! Cheers!
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
I'm with you!
@danoesq23 ай бұрын
Got a '23 with a huge discount I battled for. I love it and glad it doesn't have the lame antenna in the windshield set up.
@Siggrim11 ай бұрын
A let down is an understatement, absolutely gutted that they are letting this platform rot. All this waiting was a waste, should have just announced the jt refresh with JL. I'm evern less interested in the 24 now than ever before .
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Frustrating!
@NorthWestAutos11 ай бұрын
I agree. I was really hoping for Hurricane or 6.4 or 35"s or something special 😢
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Definitely!
@terrymcguire647811 ай бұрын
You hit it right on the nose. Where's the 35s? Where's the full float? Where's the V8? Where's the diesel option? Where's the retractable soft top? Where's the 4x4e version? Where's the Warn winch? Who the heck did they poll for what to add? The only thing that impressed me was the Addax Overland camper!
@terrymcguire647811 ай бұрын
I'm glad i bought the 22 eco rubi, which was discounted by $10k, as there is nothing in the 2024 that was worth waiting for. Is that a cloth wrap over the front of the dash? That's a dirt magnet by far if it is. I really don't feel like they listened to any customer feedback on what to improve. I love my truck but i feel some things should have been standard on the Rubi. I do not have the front camera or the plug in the bed. For some reason the plug was deleted at the port. But considering it's a $68K truck, it should be fairly well optioned. Granted i have the cold weather package, tow package, aux group, color matched fenders, color matched hard top,... but it really irks the front camera is not standard. It's a friggin rock crawler! Should have an under body camera as well like you can get in the Bronco and I think the new Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison as well, which is as much as a well optioned Rubi. Having a 4xe option should have been on the table as well. That would have covered my work commute and I could have saved big on fuel. Dont know it they would have offered that on a diesel though. They should improve the electric range as well. 20 miles is pretty pathetic. The wrangler 4xe really needs about a 40-60 range to cover the majority of commutes. A 392 option would have invigorated sales. V8s hold mystical power over truck enthusiasts. Plus it has about 30 more foot pounds of torque than the diesel. 342 vs 370. Basically what you want when rock crawling or towing. Ford eventually listened to its base and gave them the Raptor Bronco and the Raptor R F150. Time for FCA to hire a Jeep CEO that has a set of cajones. Morrison is not that guy.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Was hoping for more!
@jeepeye_jo_nathan11 ай бұрын
I am hoping that the 2025 models will be the true refresh we are looking for. I would love to see a twin turbo I6 and an easily removable rear seat.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
We will have to wait and see
@DanVoels11 ай бұрын
Give us a damned hemi!!!! Ugh. No inline? No 4xe? No thanks.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
haha right?!
@kevinrabito851611 ай бұрын
All the hype on electrification in the beginning, but then it fizzled. Nice refresh, matching the Wrangler, but yes, was expecting more on the powertrain side.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Like the new wrangler features, but yes more power for sure
@samchristo174511 ай бұрын
I’m going to buy a 2023 gladiator because all of the reviews about the 2024 have given me no reason to choose a 2024 over 2023 that I can get at a cheaper price👏👏👏
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Save yourself some money for sure!
@danoesq23 ай бұрын
That's what I did. Super happy I got one.
@samchristo17453 ай бұрын
@@danoesq2 I got A 2023 Mojave. ❤️ it
@RCPhotosVideos11 ай бұрын
Huge let down, it’s a sign the gladiator may not be with us much longer.
@scotteramsey11 ай бұрын
I agree. I'm glad I have my Nacho Gladiator and will be keeping it for a long time.
@charliemcawesome501211 ай бұрын
It’s boring AF!!! Especially disappointing is that we loose the diesel and we don’t gain any other motors. No 4xE or Hemi. Other than a larger screen why would we buy this? I had my name down at the dealership for the first 4xE Gladiator….. now I’m off to Toyota for a new Tacoma. Bigger screen. Hybrid. More power. Pretty easy decision.
@gerard0l656911 ай бұрын
@@charliemcawesome5012 - can’t argue with your point- I think Jeep is going to lose a significant (significant enough) number of buyers to other brands because of their lack of ability to understand WHAT PEOPLE WANT!
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Hope not. Looking that way
@gerard0l656911 ай бұрын
@@DIRTROADCRED - IF the Gladiator is discontinued, I’ll sell it and never, ever look or buy a Jeep product again
@jlautomotive634911 ай бұрын
I really liked the new wrangler and I’m so glad they updated the gladiator with the same treatments… that being said yes a HEMI of some sort 5.7 or the 6.2 needs to be in this… they would own the segment with a V8… I was hoping for more colors or as you stated the extreme recon and some 35 or even 37s from the factory… loving the work as always!! Keep it up 👍
@roberto728811 ай бұрын
honestly wish they would allow us to option in a 5.7L hemi into any wrangler similar to how its offered on the ram classic platform ( 3.6 and 5.7 as options.) F* the 392 and its overinflated price tag.
@Redneck_Wizard11 ай бұрын
Hurrr durrrr I need a V8 with garbage fuel economy because it goes vroom loud durrrrr
@backwoodstherapy11 ай бұрын
Era of the V8 is over. Only reason jeep offers it in the Wrangler is so rich KZbinrs can flex on us poors. They'll never offer a V8 in a vehicle that will actually sell because they have fuel economy standards to meet. Hurricane twin turbo will be the best bet but Jeep has pledged to offer a 4xe in every model in its lineup by 2025 so look for that next year. As much torque as the V8, more efficient. You don't have to like it, and a lot of people don't, but the era of the V8 is over.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@invictuscenturion846811 ай бұрын
I want the hurricane engine
@BeowulfHagen11 ай бұрын
They did not listen
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
😂
@JRobes3411 ай бұрын
I don't think your comments on towing are correct, the previous years JT had about the same towing amount ~7700 lbs (sport and sport s max tow), this refresh didn't gain on it so I don't think the full float axle is in the cards for the JT.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Yes unless the rubicon can get that high
@roderickhance208811 ай бұрын
I still love the gladiator and still plan to upgrade to one down the road, but I’m with you on the disappointment level, we need the V8 and full float rear axle from the factory. Definitely do love the new interior upgrades tho.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
We still love it too! Was hoping for more
2 ай бұрын
I purchased a 2021 in late 2020. White willys. Sold it in 2022. Just purchased a 2024 willys. The new interior is better. Feels like they moved the front seats back a bit? I noticed my dog doesn't have the same amount of room to jump in the back floor. I also feel theres more room between the bottom of the steering wheel and my legs.I could be high though. Anyway I like all the interior updates. Same engine sure. But it's reliable. And I purchased the truck to beat it up. 2021 Willys 39k (in 2020), 2024 Willys 39! I'm satisfied. But your points are valid.
@dannycardin896611 ай бұрын
I was really hoping for a 35 package with a full floater rear end and a V8 and I got nothing. I’m heartbroken I was holding out for these options now I’m not sure what I want to do. It’s definitely not a Gladiator at this point now. Thanks for the video and all the info. Keep up the great work.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Definitely frustrating!
@marceld606111 ай бұрын
As a kid with a dad that worked for Chrysler, we would hit the Detroit Auto Show at Coco Hall every year. Even more fun was the 'Autorama' that had all the wild custom builds.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Great show!
@marceld606111 ай бұрын
@@DIRTROADCRED I didn't realize until today that I was 'autocorrected' - It's COBO hall (named after a Detroit mayor) I guess the name has been changed to Huntington Place?
@user-mu2md1cs3d11 ай бұрын
Need to add 392 !
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
With you!
@ca788911 ай бұрын
Matt again you are so correct, and the majority of our community was looking forward to a true upgrade to the JT, the safety features top notch-really don't care about the power seats they really could have kept those, yes 5.7 hemi should be there and if they can put a winch into the 2500 why not the JT but again 35's should come standard on Rubicon at the least.
@alexkuehne382211 ай бұрын
Disappointing. The interior upgrades are cool, and the AEV options and 35in tires are cool when morrison said it would be an option when introducing the new Mojave, but they didn't state if it would be geared from the factory at 4.56 gears. Honestly, middle tennessee dealers where I'm at are selling Mojaves and Rubicons at nearly 20% off MSRP, so it makes it real difficult to justify the price increase for the things they are offering. They missed the mark here. At this point it looks like it was done on purpose to cancel out the model and introduce the Ram Dakota as a replacement for Stellantis.
@youtubecarspottersguide111 ай бұрын
yes and 4wd ram charger on the wagoneer platform solid rear axel utlitarian model and no 3rd row
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
You're not wrong
@trevinated11 ай бұрын
IMHO, it was a huge disappointment. I found more than a little annoying how much Jim pushed, and pushed, just how great the 4xe is, then brought in the Gladiator with zero updates to powertrain, other than only the 3.6l. So essentially, no float, no updated powertrains, and not one word that included gladiator and any new powertrains. Honestly, I'm getting the sense that this "refresh", is a last ditch effort to generate new interest. i think they're just waiting to axe it from the lineup. I've been planning to upgrade from my JLUR to the Gladiator, but this reveal just instilled a lack of confidence in the future of it. I also noticed how when they were going to read some questions from the chat, and suddenly didn't read any. Even saw their faces flush a bit. That's because of the huge backlash on this reveal. I was super disappointed and let down by their lack of effort to bring something more meaningful to the table.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
I'm with you!
@Mck49911 ай бұрын
Jeep needed to hit this nail on the head to keep the gladiator going. My opinion they missed by a mile, only things they did was add a bigger screen and slightly different grill. No real powertrain upgrades that ppl havent been doing themselves already. Willing to bet if they added a 392 version or some other more head turning version it would of pulled in sails asap
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Definitely frustrating!
@shiftgears21111 ай бұрын
I mean it’s a really nice truck and the wrangler upgrades are nice. I think we all just expected at least a new power train. Im still in the market for one just not as sure I won’t look at the competition anymore
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
I'm with you
@jasonlovell393411 ай бұрын
Our family has two gladiators and we have no desire for a 4XE version but a V8 would be cool. The Willy’s package is the best deal going and it includes 4.10 gears.
@AustinH711 ай бұрын
4xe is a joke of a power train. Jeep and electric do not mix. Stellantis can’t build any reliable electronics to save their lives.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
V8 for sure
@jeffreythomas425411 ай бұрын
I agree. 2024 gladiator is a disappointment. But I was sticking with a 2023 anyway. 10% msrp plus employees pricing...yes please! The 23 grille is way better anyway! Shocked 4xe was not presented. But I assume bc battery weight, and towing etc. This is not a easy thing to accomplish. I guess it will come on the 2025 model.
@guypoulin692911 ай бұрын
I got a 23 no regrets. New grill looks like trash imo.
@jeffreythomas425411 ай бұрын
@@guypoulin6929 agreed. Waiting on my 23 order right now
@jeffreythomas425411 ай бұрын
Might be screwed with the teamsters not delivering vehicles. My truck was done being built on 9-9-23. Idk if it's in a storage lot or being transported or what. So annoyed. But I understand the situation.
@guypoulin692911 ай бұрын
@@jeffreythomas4254 hopefully you get it soon!
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Glad you got a great deal!
@UnderAchievrLP11 ай бұрын
Since the orders for the Farout diesel is still open apperently in canada till the end of september. Id take that over the updates. If they launched a modified hurricane motor in this is would helping hand to help boost the gladiator sales. Its rocketing itself to the worst truck in class and newer power plants have leap frogged the ancient mediocre pentastar
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Do it!
@gunz209011 ай бұрын
Would like a 5.7 Extreme Recon....Ot at least a diesel Extreme Recon...No major upgrades this year with any meaning
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@dereksmith930611 ай бұрын
I was ready to order one if they had the Xtreme recon package and the modular top. I was hoping for the hurricane as well and assumed the full float was a guaranteed thing. Very disappointed in this release
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Same here!
@girth1311 ай бұрын
Isn't the towing only up 50lbs and payload only up 20lbs?
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Yes
@PuffyDucks11 ай бұрын
It’s going to be tough for the gladiator to be competitive in 24 with all the other makers offering strong next gen models
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
For sure!
@MichaelStVitus11 ай бұрын
Only one competitor has a manual transmission. And it is Japanese. Real men shift for themselves and buy American. Automatics are for women and imports are for kids. Even if they are “assembled in the U.S.A.
@christrarback974811 ай бұрын
Well atleast they added the steel bumper as an option to the Mojave....scared what the price increases will be on the X models
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
With you!
@phasedesign207911 ай бұрын
I was waiting to see what the 24 would offer since I’m in the market for a gladiator. One I saw this, I went ahead a bought a used 2020 Rubi with 15k miles on it for 42k.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Enjoy your new Rubi!
@spitfire155k28 ай бұрын
The 4XE is specifically the reason we’re not going to see many V8’s, they simply won’t fit with the 4XE drivetrain. They’ve said that they are committed to electrification and pushing all vehicles in that direction.
@LivingTheDreamUSA11 ай бұрын
2025 brings the Gladiator V8 Beasts 😊 I’d buy a 2023 Mojave for $45k if I could find one in red and on a lot.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Hope so!
@backwoodstherapy11 ай бұрын
It's what I expected tbh. Same upgraded interior and safety features. Disappointed there's no turbo 4 but the pentastar is a solid engine. I wonder if the Willys version will also have standard 33s, rear locker and 4.10 axle ratio like the Wrangler? If so, that's nice. Overland ready after a leveling kit and wider stance. I'd throw a LSD in the front for good measure. I'm paying off my Wrangler this year so I'd love to get a Willys in a couple years to round out the driveway.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@johnbettano602611 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for the 2024 gladiator dam I'm not that excited nor am I going to wait till next year to get one. looking at other makes and models now.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Definitely frustrating!
@paulbaker268011 ай бұрын
I agree, huge let down. They could have done so much more with options. Motors, tires and other upgrades. Definitely does not make me want to trade up from my 2020 Gladiator, lift, 38's and the AMW4x4 5.7 Hemi Rubicon.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@thisballcaplife969611 ай бұрын
It needs a factory v8. It doesn’t need a big gas guzzling beast but a simple V8 that can get it out of its own way when loaded down with groceries. Cough cough I mean gear. Lol
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
😂
@DeathGEAR0010311 ай бұрын
The 5.7l hemi should have been an option from the begainning, and at most a 4000 dollar option. The hemi is not a complex and hard engine to make. The 392 hemi in the wrangler is a rip off on the price side of thing. They finally gave the buyers what they always wanted from the factory and then made it wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy over priced. I love my Gladiator but more power is and always will be a must 🙃.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
With you
@NYAOAdventures11 ай бұрын
As a current owner of a 23 Gladiator, it was kinda disappointing to see the 24. As much as they were talking about electric vehicles I was certain the gladiator was going to get the 4xe treatment. It almost seems that they are going to phase out the gladiator soon. I hope something awesome will come to the gladiator soon otherwise I fear that the competition vehicles will over shadow it.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Definitely frustrating!
@JoeSmith-nu8oo11 ай бұрын
Dealer near me has several 392's that have been sitting for months now, they even took one and added nice wheels and some other accessories and it's still sitting there.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
They just aren't selling
@DuyenNguyen-ui6mo11 ай бұрын
I believe the price drop is to bring down the inventory of the 2023 model and that is great for I’m seeing more Gladiators on the road. Ultimately it’ll be the pricing what would will decide this trucks future; as far as me I’m still entertained!
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Well said!
@shadowzoneX5 ай бұрын
392 mojave would be awesome. also a jeep oem truck bed cap with option to color match it would be awesome too, I really liked how the jeep gladiator bed cap looked like in the jurassic world movie
@matthewa253111 ай бұрын
I'm going to be disappointed until I they make a two door version with a Honcho paint scheme.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Would love to see a 2 door!
@Capthowdy09811 ай бұрын
Cool now I can now buy a 2023 🤘
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
yes!
@primaljackal11 ай бұрын
I agree with you 100% Matt. But part of me wonders if they leaned into the towing and hauling capabilities more to further differentiate the Gladiator as an off-road hauler, not a crawler. For the 20-23 model years, the notion that it was basically a “Wrangler with a bed” is basically true. And so long as the Gladiator looks and feels that way, it’s always going to be in the Wrangler’s shadow. I’m not saying this was a good idea, but I could see the reasoning if we’re talking long term growth and not just a few good years of sales from throwing hemis in there.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Valid points!
@overland_dadsfl11 ай бұрын
So many people are frustrated with only one engine option.....I think that with other brands offering multiple options it's kind of disappointed.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Definitely
@alexandersnow196311 ай бұрын
For the record, adding a rear locker to the Willys is great if it was priced better. I priced a fully loaded Willys online and it’s 60k. For a point of reference, a fully loaded Rubicon Diesel in 2021 could be had for $53. So to me, it’s simply the price at this point. A fully loaded 2.0 or 4xe is 73k. At 60k for the Willys you might as well just spend the extra money on the rubicon
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Well said!
@theUltimateLord11 ай бұрын
Putting the 392 in a truck makes more sense than putting it into the wrangler
@scottsever765611 ай бұрын
I totally agree with this video, nothing was mentioned about 35s and 456 gearing for the gladiator. I know everyone has to watch their omissions but Ford had a V6 12 years ago that had like 305 hp The gladiator has needed a V-8 from day one. It doesn’t have to be 470 hp at a $30,000 option. But some form of V-8 or more power out of that V6 without using a turbo. I’m going to order a 24 gladiator obviously with the V6. So I need some pointers on adding 25 to 35 hp to it.
@TopHatGent11 ай бұрын
They would have to fix the aluminum corrosion and the infamous electrical gremlins with the radio and AC. The life long aluminum corrosion issues were what finally made me give up my 2020. It had so much potential.
@austinspitler3211 ай бұрын
Agreed that this was a very underwhelming reveal. Was kinda expecting them to offer the winch, 35in extreme recon package, maybe 4xe or 392 but really seems like they just updated the grill, infotainment and the side airbags. Might have been more acceptable if it rolled out alongside the Wrangler refresh but after waiting I was expecting more.
@Redneck_Wizard11 ай бұрын
It has an entirely newly designed structure for crash safety and I'm glad Jeep focused on something actually important like safety for families instead of trying to appease the simple minded, smooth brained fools who only care about having an unnecessary gas thirsty V8.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Right?!
@chuckshade795911 ай бұрын
The hat trick would have been a hemi a diesel and the 3.6 as options , that would have smoked the competition. I could care less about electrification .
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Hemi for sure
@mej1311 ай бұрын
The Willy's did get 35" factory, but yea outside of that really disappointed, was hoping for a 4xe version.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@flavioguzman124311 ай бұрын
Do you think that they will add these other options mid year to help unload the 23 gladiators
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Hard to say! February we might see some movement
@abrahamdz147111 ай бұрын
Its the exactly the same and they expect us to be excited about it?
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Was hoping for more!
@InvertedAerials11 ай бұрын
I couldn’t agree with you more. Jeep said they “listened” … oh yea? To who?! Lol! In Canada our “Build & Price” now has a Rubicon Diesel pkg @ $18,000!!! Granted it has all the goodies save the trail cam (due to black grille) but from what I have reward the diesel is on its way out. So, if the 2024 Gladiator ONLY has a V6….I am afraid I will be closing the door on the gladiator and ordering an F-150 Tremor (which is close to the same price in Canada)
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
haha! Was hoping for a lot more
@ericjames76802 ай бұрын
Need your help please. Just found your videos as I was researching a JEEP for a future purchase. When I research them I am finding so many people having issues with a few things. For example, what about the dry start up issue because of the oil filter being empty when you first start the engine? Is the $400.00 accessory needed to be purchased and installed that has the special valve ? Also since you are in there, what about the plastic oil cooler that people are havening cracked due to heat? Then some talk of electrical issues and some say they have a generator and others say no they have an alternator? Too, the Corning Gorilla glass people are cracking them too. The rear final driver sensor people say they need to replace it? So I really thought I would like a new Jeep and do not want to buy one every year as some people do because they are afraid to put too many mikes on them and worry if the engine can even last 100,000 miles or so? Or am I being swayed by some people that have just had bad luck? Hope you understand my concern and offer some good advice. I am into motorcycles too and so far this JEEP is reminding me of some of the KTM models that there are so many issues you need to know and correct before you go any where with one. Thank You Sir!!
@hockeycop1011 ай бұрын
I completely agree ! 35’s, 392 or it’s dead! And the MSRP NEEDS TO COME DOWN !!!!! Raptor Ranger is gonna put you outta business!!
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
You're not wrong
@hyppievanman4 ай бұрын
I think the hurricane but honestly I 100% 4xe with a battery to do ~50miles electric would be baller
@braxtonferrell79829 ай бұрын
i wish they would put more technology in these things more screens and what not and maybe make it a full size truck?
@tonymunoz740011 ай бұрын
I love that Mojave hood! Need that for my JL! PS Looking good brotha I noticed you dropped some pounds my guy! 🤙
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!!
@scottnewton904611 ай бұрын
The upgrades are all copy and paste from the Wrangler, which makes sense since the vehicles are nearly identical from the B pillar forward. Without the full float axle, Xtreme recon pkg, and the 392, it seems like thy may be letting the JT run its course to eventually be dropped. Maybe we’ll see a Hurricane option, which would help tremendously.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@wastedelectrons11 ай бұрын
I knew the Gladiator was having sales issues when I saw Rubicon offered at rental car lots for cheap rates and nobody was picking them
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Yeah they’re pretty discounted now
@seandeterman249911 ай бұрын
No 392, discontinued the diesel, no roll down rear window, no 35's, idk. It's a kinda nice refresh, but that's really all it is. It'll be interesting to see if the Uconnect will be backwards compatible.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Like the updated interior, but that was to be expected
@GoXplr11 ай бұрын
That AEV is sick !! We kinda spoke about that in TN . I just can't justify $2300 for a bumper, even as sexy as it is. I'm assuming pre-ordered from a dealer is cheaper .... but what a great look !!
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Definitely love the look!
@johnreno890911 ай бұрын
there is no x-trim gladiator like on wrangler???
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
There is!
@johnreno890911 ай бұрын
@@DIRTROADCRED but at the presentation as i know they did not mentioned anything about it,. wright??
@choosingadventure11 ай бұрын
Yep, why wait for a release this long after the wrangler when all they did was change the interior, grill, and safety equip. Where is the XR, diff engines, diff tops????
@invictuscenturion846811 ай бұрын
Still love the Gladiator however.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@tonyk789911 ай бұрын
I don't understand how the 7700lbs is a huge towing upgrade? Unless they are talking the Rubicon only? As the max tow was 7650 for towing.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
I forgot how high the sport max tow got!
@tonyk789911 ай бұрын
@DIRTROADCRED my current spec max tow was 7650 for towing with 1450 payload according to the door sticker. The payload spec at the maximum was 1700lbs (although i would never spec like that) so I don't believe the payload changed either on the upcoming model.
@grisa1234511 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. 35’s, Winch, 4xe, a 392 version all should be there. Plus some new colors.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Exactly
@Robstunner11 ай бұрын
A 392 XR gladiator would have been over 100k yet still selling hotter than any other truck on the market.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
would have loved to see it
@Redfour58 ай бұрын
I agree... Now if they had come out with a Hemi 6.4 even a souped up Hurricane I'd be paying attention. But the big change is the UConnect screen? I prefer the old 8.4 personally to the point of getting one harder and harder on my Ram 2500. So, with 30% off a loaded Freedom edition in a color I like MSRP 60,800 for 42K, I'm going 2023.
@dougjohnson42667 ай бұрын
Jeeps Glads needs a v6 or v8 option with 4.0 or 4.6 (Maybe 5.0) liter. The 3.6 is OK until you need to tow up a steep grade.
@kylepolencheck724911 ай бұрын
Reading through the comments, I’m glad the hear a lot of the same things I’ve been saying. This really seems like they’ve done the bare minimum to refresh this truck. At a minimum, with how they spent the first ten minutes talking up the 4xe, then to not introduce the 4xe Gladiator was a HUGE disappointment. A hurricane or a Hemi would’ve been spectacular too. It seems to me that they’re, unfortunately, just getting ready to kill this truck. I was all set to buy a ‘24 too, now I’ll just keep my ‘08 JKU for another year. Maybe they’ll do a ‘24 1/2 refresh with a 4xe or Hurricane…?
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Definitely frustrating!
@coltonellison535511 ай бұрын
To make it it even more disappointing, the previous gladiator also had 7700lbs towing capacity on the sport S with Max Tow package. So not sure why they said there was a towing increase unless they all have a 7700lbs tow capacity now.
@dsrogersjr11 ай бұрын
I'm curious about this too. I'm trying to get something that can tow a car trailer next year so would be interesting if they upped the towing on more than the sport with Max towing
@raulfernandez911111 ай бұрын
It’s probably an upgraded option and not standard. If you pause the video where he shows the towing capability segment, you’ll see there’s a (2) after it.
@coltonellison535511 ай бұрын
@@raulfernandez9111 I guess that means it’s the exact same as the previous years then and only on sport and sport S so not sure why they even mentioned it.
@youtubecarspottersguide111 ай бұрын
v6 and 4.10 watch some of TFL truck tow test over the 'ike ' ON I 80 in Colorado that v6 was maxed rpm but if one is in the flats of Kansas or texas might tow more I don't trust. tow ratings
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Yeah, good point!
@edwardstoneberger248611 ай бұрын
I was hoping for the trubo 4-cylinder hybrid. It's got scat and 50MPG combined.
@jlv3x11 ай бұрын
No 4xe, no 392, no Hurricane I-6!!!!! When people that want to actually buy Gladiators are screaming for more power. So if we want more power we have to buy a Gladiator from America's Most Wanted.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Frustrating for sure!
@mikeseese11811 ай бұрын
50lbs of increase of the towing capacity is a pretty BIG increase on the Gladiator??? How???
@jameshenson578911 ай бұрын
If Jeep actually " listens" well here you go. You missed it. You will kill this product and lose to GM, Toyota and Ford. For the love of god, give us what we are asking for. You gave us a diesel that cant breath, a locker that goes bad and requires a full replacement axle to fix, gorilla glass that breaks as easy as the original, no winch option, no full float axle, no onboard air option, and no v8 in the truck. I get it, the Wagoneer is awesome and the wrangler 392 is cool, but you are completely missing the mark on a segment that would be very profitable. Rubicon Gladiator with AEV factory suspension, 35/37 option, real winch bumpers with winch, onboard air, and a hemi.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Definitely frustrating!
@run-n-smoke7336Ай бұрын
What is the didifference between the Mohave and the Mohave X
@patrickh911210 ай бұрын
Where is the Molle system gone? Small feed for some but damn
@paulcastaneda480410 ай бұрын
I just wanted it in pink on the texas trail trim
@DIRTROADCRED10 ай бұрын
That would be nice!
@RadicalIngenuity11 ай бұрын
'2023 Jeep Wrangler 4xe was named America's Best-Selling Plug-In Hybrid in 2022' but no Gladiator option for 24. Crazy
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Right?!
@thegarage457011 ай бұрын
There are deep discounts because they know they’re gouging customers for 10-12k over what they’re worth. 65k+ for a wrangler/gladiator is just stupid.
@DIRTROADCRED11 ай бұрын
Valid
@DaRevrin11 ай бұрын
I would be 100% interested in purchasing this updated gladiator if it had the 4xe or v8. With neither, expect this 2024 to be discounted heavily within a year as well.