The 2024 Mustang Dark Horse S650 is Shockingly Impressive

[@ThatDudeinBlue]

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[@brolyvi1211]

Just lose the hair and rock it. I did it, everyone can. Let nature take its course😅

[@shanerobinson1050]

I know this is random considering you just did this review on a mustang but you should do a video on the Plymouth Prowler!! Never seen a review done on one in these modern times!!

[@bobboby2400]

The screen really brings the vehicle into the modern world so it has the best of the electric car world but still with true power and fumes

[@bobboby2400]

It needs the strips you could always do what you want to do after it's not supposed to look exactly like a GT it's the Dark Horse with a good eye they know what they're dealing with when they see one and if not then they'll get a good surprise when it creeps out of the dark like a stallion full of piss and vinegar

[@bobboby2400]

It's a vehicle that even Batman would drive as Bruce Wayne

[@idohearthatersdgk]

It’s super impressive until you look at dealerships absolutely ruining this car by pricing it at 100K+

[@BRAINFxck10]

How is it “super impressive” when the Mach 1 is better

[@idohearthatersdgk]

@@BRAINFxck10 depends on how you look at it. Dark horse has far better interior and better headroom for N/A. Yes the old ones have slightly more HP than the new one but thats not the entire story

[@macbook802]

It's shockingly impressive when ford pays you to say it

[@Michael_Obando]

⁠@@macbook802you nailed it. The S650 is just like a new edge update to sn95. #whack💩

[@chrislowe486]

@@macbook802i don’t think he would sell out like that

[@androiduberalles]

I know it's cliche to compare a new car to a used car, but man I feel like this thing is hard to justify over a lot of other options. Even with the power, the weight is really high.

[@mikewozawski1634]

I feel you, got my 5th gen 1le for 25k put another 25k building it how I want and its perfect for me for 50k all in handles better than most cars I come across

[@androiduberalles]

@@mikewozawski1634heck, I have a LS3 C6 with cam/headers, I'm sure I could run down a hellcat and handle pretty well too!

[@mikewozawski1634]

@@androiduberalles yea I haven't touched the motor yet. Everything else is done tho haha. I really want a c6 or c5 one day, maybe another 4th gen firebird too the addiction is real haha

[@goo_fam0198]

Why do people think its so heavy? it only weighs 158lbs more than the gt350 and 222lbs LESS than the gt500.

[@androiduberalles]

​​@@goo_fam0198the gt350 is heavy too though 😅. Don't get me wrong, it's awesome and I'd love to have that V8, but she kinda thiq though.

[@revelare_xvii6269]

Say what you want, but the Mustang is the last of the main 3 muscle cars to keep its V8.

[@musclecarenjoyer]

correction the camaro is gone and the charger and challenger are now soy

[@ArachniusWebb]

First to go electric tho 😂

[@joflo5-0h99]

I love that! "Now soy" 🤣🤣@@musclecarenjoyer

[@Konnersaki]

@@joflo5-0h99better word than gay 😂

[@itstygerr]

I work at a Ford dealership and there's a chance the V8 will discontinue in 2026 so Ford can instead sell Ecoboosts or hybrids... idk.

[@JakeJDM]

The hate on the new mustang is so ridiculous, thank you David for having a realistic view

[@ChrisWolf75]

People are mad about the dealer markups. No one is complaining about the GT 5.0. Just the Dark Horse. sometimes, they want as much as 100k. For the difference it's ridiculous.

[@Apollo5752353]

Glad i'm not the only one that really likes the Dark Horse

[@redhunnid5142]

This car shows you fast a car can be with just 400-500HP if you have a good suspension setup and a good power to weight ratio to be able to put the power down. You don’t need 700-1000HP to be fast. Most people when modding their car only care about HP mods. They totally disregard a good suspension setup and wonder why their car doesn’t perform better and adding more HP is not the answer.

[@mattjingles5758]

The most appropriate comment ever.

[@URsooomad8613]

L take. They're selling for Corvette prices but could never touch one on any track or surface on the planet. Not even starting to mention cars like the BMW M5, RS3, and countless other better vehicles at that price point.

[@mercxnary8719]

@@URsooomad8613So every car thats supposed to sell for “corvette prices” are supposed to compete with the corvette? the corvette and the mustang are two entirely different cars the corvette is a mid engine track car and the mustang is a modern muscle car you obviously dont know much about how cars if youre comparing everything to the corvette and for the record the gtd will ruin ANY stock c8 z06 or on the track and you dont have to pay dealer markups unlike the 140k over msrp z06

[@tresav4247]

I mean thats comment sense imo cause why up hp not put it down ?

[@AB-coyote]

@@URsooomad8613but they offer a manual. Something you can’t get in a corvette. They are definitely worth a look and the coyote is miles better than the current Vette engine offerings should you want to boost later on. Let’s hope tuning becomes available.

[@mg_streetkandi]

I'm glad this review turned out well and I'm even more glad that he mentioned the GT350 and Mach 1 being really good as well. The Dark Horse is gonna be very expensive.. But if you have 45k to 65k..You still can afford a GT350 with low miles as well as a Mach 1 on the used market..👍🏽🏁

[@tehpik3y]

What an amazing journey for you, David. It's been awesome watching your growth through the years. Thank you for your real perspective and engaging content.

[@Imprisoned1995]

I like how my 23 Mach 1 sounds with the factory mufflers. I did put a x-pipe on it, but that didn't void the warranty.

[@tommywood9401]

Lol. Most of the haters throwing shade couldn't afford to buy a brand new car of any description, let alone this beast!

[@gordydexter2615]

Hey David very good video!!! Thanks for checking the DH out!!! I like the car. I see that the guys up in Wisconsin dynode the DH getting 444.8 to the rear wheels. Taking out the carbon filter in the tubes increased the peak HPW to 449.8~~ so 450 rwhp. That’s amazing. If you get the Recaro seats that’s 36 pounds less. Magnesium rims bring down another 40+ pounds. Do a few other reductions and you can reduce the overall weight to ~~3630 pounds. Do some bolt-ons & E-85 and you should get 530 rwhp easily so this will be a fun daily driver. Doing that will make this an awesome daily driver car that sounds very good! I plan on getting a DH. Also waiting on the GT-500 to be released!!! The guys from Middleton Sports in Wisconsin are showing the quality of the car. Ford engineers stated at a closed-meeting discussion that the ECU/ECM encryption was released to Whipple, RTR, & Ford Performance. So getting a decent output with boost should work out nicely. StangMode already put on a Whipple SC on a Dark Horse. Cheers Thanks again David!!!💪😎👍🇺🇸✝️😮

[@russparker1647]

If I didn’t love my 2018, GT conv. so much I would seriously consider a Dark Horse. But my GT has magna ride, perf pack, active exhaust, 10 speed, and forged wheels. And I LOVE CONVERTIBLES. I priced out a loaded. Dark Horse in Canada, minus carbon fibre wheels and it was $93,000. Youch! Great review.

[@justinbeamon6624]

The sound of that Coyote never gets old. Especially with a good exhaust it is chef's kiss.

[@1262tezzo]

For the price tag it should've came with the 5.2, the car ran a 12.5 in the quarter but hopefully ford updates the car to be better

[@hpharold23]

MSRP is a reasonable price. But factor in Dealer shits... It's ridiculous.

[@tri3pleagent]

You'll see much better times in short order.

[@deebrandt007]

The voodoo is great and unique but the coyote is much more bulletproof so they're smart to go with the coyote

[@1262tezzo]

@@hpharold23 not for 79k

[@hhaste]

@@1262tezzo MSRP is 59K

[@CoyoteAUS]

S550 10R80 GT is king for me value for performance wise when you mod them.

[@ashtonmasters9831]

AGREED!!!!!

[@al90vette]

More DH enthusiasm than anyone else so far. Glad to hear it!

[@emiliooviedo9902]

Went from a 2018 10speed gt to a 10 speed Dark Horse.. Wow the suspension is impressive!! Lots of power haven't ran it yet but I can already tell!!

[@robertcrawford3926]

The issue for me is the locked ECU.

[@mikelowe9198]

It’ll be unlocked by someone soon enough

[@SpeedySpartan]

@@mikelowe9198 Hopefully... That's what people said about the c8 corvette and supra and yet it's been years with little improvement :/

[@brandonsiniawski4619]

@@SpeedySpartanThe C8 ECM was finally unlocked earlier this year by HP Tuners so they are tunable except the ZO6. The TCM hasn’t been unlocked yet though

[@carboydorifutoparty3976]

​@@SpeedySpartansupras ecu isn't locked really. It depends on what year model u got tbh. If it's over a 2022 model mk5 it's locked. If it's under a 22 then it's been unlocked and people have been throwing power at them for sometime now.

[@jeffkelly9197]

At least Whipple and Ford are working together.

[@brendanarana6178]

I’m sorry, long time viewer, this was one of the biggest disappointing fords I’ve seen yet. Slight power increase for a heavier worse performing car that’s marked up to high heaven. This thing costs more than a GT350 with far worse performance. It’s gimmicky and even though it has some improvements to the old model, they’re very small in the big picture and they basically figured out how to sell you less for more. It’s going to take a lot to get me to like it.

[@slaterelliott3780]

fr bro let me down tryna hype this dud up

[@tri3pleagent]

How do you figure it costs more than a GT350?

[@brendanarana6178]

@@tri3pleagentin my area, Gt350 is around $50k-$60k. Darkhorse $65-$75k. I mean it by the price being higher. Looks worse imo and costs more, performs worse. Nothing I want.

[@tri3pleagent]

@@brendanarana6178 fair enough...the 350 is supposed to perform better, as it has more power. This is really a Mach 1 replacement and it outperforms that car. The price increases across the board for the new car are insane, tho.

[@Loulovesspeed]

@@brendanarana6178 - The Darkhorse starts at $57,900. The 2020 GT350 started at $61,600. Must be your dealer screwing you!

[@cgc]

I'm curious why all of the Dyno videos of the Dark Horse are very lack luster....but this is the only one showing anyone getting excited about it's power? Not trolling - seriously.

[@jestinsimon]

I'm torn on the looks but that thing sounds absolutely amazing. Drooooool.

[@xmariner]

This was my first sports car. And wow. I am so lucky. Thanks for this video. I don't know half of your jargon. But I've learned. I love my Dark Horse.

[@carlyeremian]

GREAT REVIEW!!! I knew the hype would be real! Thanks for confirming it.

[@SKOMPAS]

Factory Drift car really says it all, nothing else matters.

[@chrism869]

the best mustang ever, this dark horse is so cool, i would buy this in a manual 100 percent

[@Sire638]

AND GET DUSTED BY A SUPRA OR Z!!!!!!LOL

[@rickitysplitz7035]

You need a modified mk4 and mk5 Supra to beat a stock Dark Horse and the Nissan Z already gets beat by Scatpacks and last 10spd 5.0s lol

[@tri3pleagent]

Absolutely love this car... can't wait to see how it performs on track.

[@Tazzypants]

The whole point of being a gear head was having something fast that was seemingly crazy. Too many people watch the new fast and furious, the first 4 actually somewhat had cars and engines upgrades that were feasible

[@iLLsauce]

I have a 98 mustang GT and lemme tell you it ain’t fast but it sounds sooooo good 😂

[@jeredslaymaker6956]

Crazy to think I've been watching your videos for like 12 years

[@Garagefoxx]

Definitely cool to see Ford truly trying to build a genuine enthusiast car. The tremec, the RTR styled grille. All just little hints that they know will make people know that in fact, they do care c:

[@00-CN7]

Historic moment on the channel🎉

[@wildnfree223]

Apparently this beast weighs 3995 lbs, with 500 at the crank allowing some drive train loss honest 390 wheel I'll stick with my worked foxbody ... 2850lbs 480 crank /370 wheel hp

[@hhaste]

Build it out for handling and that's probably way more fun. Wide sticky tires, with coilovers and some other bits like sway bars, endlinks etc.

[@bryanr93]

500 crank isn’t 390 rear wheel horsepower. It’s probs more like 430-440.

[@ericwalters7067]

This video makes me wish I had the means to have a mustang. Hats off to you for making what you love your career

[@Urukior4]

I like the Dark Horse (interior aside) but what I'm most curious about is a direct comparison of it and the Mach 1. The Dark Horse is basically the Mach 1 in the new gen, nothing special about it other than being slightly uptuned performance from new gen... and a gigantic cost increase. Everyone was all negative about Mach 1 being a 'parts bin special', but that's literally what the Dark Horse is as well.

[@19hundoc47]

Every car from every manufacturer is a parts bin special. Stupid argument. That’s how companies stay in business, if they made new specific parts for every single vehicle they’d be out of business in a heart beat.

[@Michael-pi8ps]

@@19hundoc47straw man

[@piotr2951]

What would you prefer for driver engagement and everyday riding, dark horse or m2 ?

[@StormÆLnGoFth]

Yes 🙌 this is the video I have been waiting for 👍

[@TRUCONSEQUENCE]

I have a 2019 Shelby GT350 I brought from the previous owner in 2020 with 2400 miles I love my GT350 its one of my best cars I ever owned now I have a little over 13k miles and still love the sound and handling what’s shocking about the dark house is that’s it cost more than than what I paid for my GT350 In my opinion is a better car than the dark horse….even the GT Mustang is pretty pricey….I would encourage anybody who is considering a dark horse please look into getting a GT350 before dishing out money for dealer mark ups for car that’s not worth more than a GT350….it’s like when the new Corvette came out paying for a base C8 when you can get a C7 ZR 1 for the same price with manual transmission these car companies and dealers need to realize when they allow outrageous prices for there pockets they are actually losing their fan base

[@scarface9617]

I still have to go with a ‘23 Gt500 over a ‘24 Dark Horse!

[@350Zquicksilver]

8:18 Living on the edge there, LOL.

[@maya00795]

This New mustang gt dark horse is amazing....... Greetings from india 🇮🇳🤩🤠🤠

[@MikeYeary]

I finally took delivery of mine yesterday, and while I was signing my life away, the guy that I was working with tells me that he's basically in the dog house now, and it's my fault. He said that after he saw mine in person, now he wants one so bad, but his wife said no 😂

[@calvinmauney5669]

Curious why buy a darkhorse at that price point? And. Being heavy vs the last generation

[@MikeYeary]

@@calvinmauney5669 I'm paralyzed, so I need an automatic, so a GT350 is out. It's also going to be my daily driver, so I wanted it to be naturally aspirated, so GT500 is out. I like the look of the new ones. I also like the tech, and they may be a little heavier, but they're also more powerful.

[@johnny_truth]

Congratulations

[@rembo183]

This appears to, e the base Dark Horse as it does not have the added aero kit and larger wheels and tires. It does have the basic performance stuff from the GT but there is a $4,500 added Dark Horse Performance Pack.

[@sl0w.c0y0te5]

At the price point I don't see how you could pick the Dark Horse over the GT350.

[@isaacphillips8543]

Been a fan since around 2012/2013 Love all the content!!! I can’t wait to be at Cosmic Drift in October. The wife and I got paddock passes. Hope to see you around, would love to get a pic or an autograph on my favorite hat. Lol 😂 (cheesy i know) but your content get me super into cars.

[@kevinwall2882]

Beautiful car! This thing is a sweetheart

[@ahmadmorrow2749]

Can’t really justify the price to performance…..rather have a gen 2 or 3

[@MrBigbrobeaz]

Absolutely spectacular, I hope and prey it comes to Australia 🇦🇺 ❤

[@stevencrowley110]

I was going to buy this but decided to buy five S197 5.0s instead. Now I get to match my car with my outfit every day.

[@loganj.2329]

All they did was make the front end really ugly...and changed the dashboard and a few other features and charged alot more money.

[@Loulovesspeed]

You really need to do more research on this vehicle because you are clearly in the "dark" (pun intended) as far as the enhancements made to it. You're only judging its looks and not its overall performance. Vast majority would disagree with your ugly front end comment......really?? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - guess you're just not much of a beholder! LOL

[@TH3ROCKSTAR]

I agree, theres absolutely no difference other then screens and the unusual front end.

[@Loulovesspeed]

@@TH3ROCKSTAR - Ever hear the expression, "Don't judge a book by its cover?" That is just what you are doing! Try reading up on the variety of mechanical, etc. changes made to this car rather than just making an appearance statement.

[@kenwolf2431]

After driving the S650 it is hands down the best Mustang, it no longer bucks and it goes smoothly about everything it does. No more tramlining down the road just straight ahead. If your all about the numbers get S550, if you like a solid feels well put together Mustang get the S650 its just so much more car. Go drive one and wright off the bat you will be able to tell the difference this thing has no wind noise at all it and it is so much more refined compare to the S550 which is a rattle trap.

[@4BillC]

What's wrong with some regular gauges? I know we already are driving computers but does it have to that in your face?

[@notsofairisit]

Had my local dealer put me on a list for one. It’s a shame I had to back out after a $35k mark up.

[@jamesbarrick3403]

I will buy one when they are selling at msrp or lower. It will happen soon.

[@hhaste]

Already are.. at least, in my area

[@irishuwould5185]

Never pay msrp. Many people have being paying thousands over because they are stupid and have no self control. That’s why prices are the way they are. Rule of thumb is never pay msrp because you’re getting royally screwed with no lube for that price.

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

I like the look of the 2015's to 2020's the best.. They made the newer Dark Horse look worse even if it is faster. It's doesn't look as nice as the slightly older models...

[@joelolivas4686]

The rear end of the car looks weird. You know how on GTA games there's kind of replicas of cars that we all love, but they look a little wonky. That's what the rear end looks like on this.

[@bryandelcid4065]

It looks and sounds great and I’m sure it feels great too but idk if it justifies close 80k price tag on it tbh. For that price you can get a Shelby GT500 or 350R and you can get a Camaro ZL1 1le. Had this car stayed in the 60k price tag then yes it would totally make a lot of sense

[@krazzykarl27]

I can’t get past the Honda Accord front clip

[@S650Hero]

Did you adjust the steering to track settings? I think it’s too firm and on my custom mode I use sport steering with track exhaust

[@TwinTurboLsx]

Thats interesting. Most people doing share that same opinion. with a price tag much higher, its performance doesn't seem to keep up. Even with the previous generation.

[@jasondemers4389]

i just cant justify trading my 2022 Mach 1 HP for this, alI have is K&N filter and Corsa Helixx Double x pipe

[@hhaste]

I just hate how much it weighs.. and the all digital tach but I like everything else about it. I think I'm still going to buy a new Supra over this, though.

[@brotherhood_ofstreetracers4268]

I ran one with my speed3 yesterday. he took off before me but i came around by about 3/4 car lengths. I need to invest in a 360 cam or a dash cam. You don’t see anybody racing speed’s that have ben done up. Only runs i can find on youtube are bolt on tuned ones or slightly bigger turbo

[@iandavis8755]

A very impressive vehicle, that's for sure, but I am not going to lie...a really dislike the screens. While they are better than the ones in the lower trim Mustangs, they just look...out of place. At least Ford put a lot of time and effort into the powertrain and the chassis and suspension tuning. All of those things are taking the Mustang into full blown sports car territory.

[@TheDwhawkins]

I have a DH with HP and love it! Do you know any good shops for mods in SoCal?

[@JROC734]

IMO go A10. I've owned many manuals from Civics, Integra GSR, 88 GT, 99 Roush Stage 2, 03 Cobra, 02 Camaro SS, 19 1SS 1LE, but these newer 10 speeds aren't your old 4 speed automatics like in say my 03 Lightning that are so stubborn to want to downshift and play. My 18 F150 5L with a 10R80, and an AML tune is just so damn good, playful, and willing to shift. I would rather swap a 10R80 in my L than add a Whipple for street use. The 10R80 is that good. Everyone always wants to hype their halo car using a manual, and knock automatic transmissions until the car's getting its ass kicked in a Streetfire.... I mean YT video, and then it becomes, "well the Camaro or Challenger Fat Pack had an automatic. If the Mustang GT had a 10R80 it would of won." Then outside of said video, they'll go right back to hyping a manual over an automatic transmission. I like to drive a manual. I honestly get it, manuals are fun to drive, and they're cool. I could see getting a Dark Horse with a manual if you prioritize the driving experience over maximizing the cars performance, but I would never consider buying a S650 Mustang GT with a MT82 over a 10R80. Furd should be F'in ashamed if themselves for pricing a new GT as high as they have, and then giving it a crappy, weak, budget, Chinese made MT82 over a Tremec. I bought my 19 1SS 1LE for $39,750 brand new, and the TR6060 was excellent, and better in every way (from a transmission standpoint) to every MT82 equipped MGT I've driven. Not only will it handle way more abuse, and power, but it's refinement, and smoothness is a level above the MT82 as well. Coming from T56 cars, the TR6060 was a real pleasure to drive. I mean it rows gears almost as nice as a Honda performance car manual transmission which is impressive for a transmission as beefy, and strong as a T56 based unit.

[@LuxuryWristorgasm]

Way better!🔥🔥🔥 Insane monster!😈😈

[@StaneDaynus]

I had a DH premium on order but a zl1 ended up popping up at the right time so I cancelled. It’s a shame I’ll never get the chance to own a 24’ for the foreseeable future but given the nature of this Gen I think I made the right call.

[@hhaste]

Definitely. ZL1> this any day of the week. The only thing keeping me from buying a 1SS 1LE or used ZL1 is the rear right blind spot. I didn't drive one but I did sit in a ZL1 and it's literally dangerous. I don't know if you can get used to it over time like owners say or if you can avoid it with using the mirrors but maybe driving it is a different story than just sitting there, like I did. The Camaro is a better car than the Mustang in every single way.

[@kenwolf2431]

Not really the Mustang is faster around a track the Mach 1 is faster then the 1LE as Motor Trend stated already and the GT500 carbon pack will gap a ZL1. As a a daily the Mustang is so much better than the Camaro thats why it out sold the Camaro so badly. No one wanted a Camaro thats why it is gone after 24 and will be a 4 door SUV next.

[@mr_nobody867fifetreeOniner]

It looks good but I like the look of the S650 GT with proformance pack and the night pony package better.

[@deebrandt007]

I agree. The dark horse looks like it has bags under it's eyes

[@mr_nobody867fifetreeOniner]

@@deebrandt007 Exactly.

[@notacoyote2790]

Did you turn off traction control while you were doing the pulls?

[@tkostang]

Does the dash screen seem too close to the driver? It’s RIGHT THERE!. Wouldn’t the steering wheel block parts of it since it’s not set back into the dash?

[@grantwinkelbauer1120]

I really feel that we should keep analog gauges. They feel more premium and timeless that dash will be dated in a couple years. Not a huge fan of the new looks but thats subjective

[@NotSure416]

How is the quick shifter?

[@johnny_truth]

It’s very nice, definitely a mustang someone could keep stock and have fun. It could be a really nice daily, especially in an auto.

[@LexusLuvAffair]

I'm not a fan of the looks of the S650 in general, but the Dark Horse somehow manages to be even worse. It borders on last-gen Civic Type-R garishness and just looks like they were trying too hard to be cool. I hate to say it, but I agree with your buddy David. It's tacky.

[@nerdshininglightw7014]

I saw a blue soft top at my dealership that mustang looks amazing in person🚫🧢🤝🤔

[@joeylewis8615]

Dealer markup is absurd on these, the total price I've seen at some Oregon Ford dealers eclipses the GT500 a few years back during the pandemic! Love this car, but hate the Ford dealerships. Great review by the way!

[@TGunner23]

As a car hauler, I’ve already delivered 4 of them to dealers. I’m a huge mustang fan. I don’t like the new mustangs. It does sound good though.

[@mikeh3558]

The emblem reminds me of the transformer emblem put on a yellow camaro. I agree with your friend.

[@mikeg8224]

It’s disappointing that you didn’t review a handling package mach 1 to compare to…

[@FOR8YESHUA]

*What is the projected price? *The ultimate question, what's the Nurburgring time? Is there a conversion available for a Supercharger, and or Turbos? Is there a conversion available for twin clutch?

[@fresh_paint]

Is it really "shockingly" impressive though? It should not be a surprise how impressive this car actually is just based on the build info

[@weissmon]

Saw one of these driving through Helen Ga over the weekend, that you?!

[@blackss841]

This is a tough one because I think most people are rightfully concerned about the weight. They can obviously not feel the improvements of the Dark Horse as they watch videos. Motortrend says 3.7 for the 10r80 version but the tremec seems way too slow in the low 4s. I think the real problem is Ford needs to cater to two types of mustang buyers: 1)Someone who wants the best manual and excellent handling and steering feel (lacking in mustangs) and 2)A larger displacement mustang that is more focused on 0-60 and quarter mile times with likely the 10r80 or some dual clutch that doesn't cost 80K. Maybe the 5.2 without the supercharger in the GT500. Needs about 525 hp and 450 or above torque. That mustang doesn't need a 7200-7500 rpm redline, 6500-7000 would be more than enough. It's hard to please everyone but it's clear some mustang fans don't like the performance numbers they are seeing.

[@Tain950]

There was a time that Mustangs and Vettes gave you equal or better performance than it’s competitors for a fraction of the price. A performance bargain that was obtainable by the working man. But unfortunately do to dealer ship markup’s Mustangs and Corvettes have become just as expensive if not more than the competition and no longer obtainable for a lot of people.

[@StormÆLnGoFth]

I don't like ford at all but BUT this mustang is really looking 👀 wow the bullit and this really pulling my strings 😮 500 HP N/A is phenomenal

[@PANTYEATR1]

The GTD Mustang is gonna be crazy tho🏆

[@edwardwallace7571]

Im not a mustang fan by no means but......i really like the way this one looks

[@MrCaprinut]

Love the backend, front end not so much. Nor the screen. I guess I'm a fan of normal gauges.

[@rmartin5285]

The back end doesn’t match the soft looking front. Grill is too “gaping”. Digital dash is “over the top” and gimmicky with the animations of the drive modes…..unnecessary goofiness. The new power doesn’t offset the weight increase. Double intake is gonna make a power adder expensive and lower options available. Locked ECU…wtf.

[@tkostang]

Shouldn’t the drift brake have been on the outside of the shifter?

[@07slowbalt]

Ford screwed everyone with the 10r80 and mt82. My 10r80 in my truck had problems since day 1 and finally gave out at 59k miles. It was replaced after a month in the shop and one month later it blew the oil pan gasket. It left my transmission struggling to find a gear and broke down on me in a rough part of town, sprayed ATF all over my hot exhaust. The mt82 has multiple lawsuits going on just like the 10r80 because of internal failures. If chevy can put a tremec in its base camaro then whats fords excuse for giving us a junk 6 speed? The tremec is the obvious choice in a mustang but at the end of the day the darkhorse is an extremely overpriced glorified mustang gt.

[@Mike696956]

I'd love to know what the excuse is. everyone uses tremic challenger, camero so why not ford? And ya i have to 10 speed in my f150 and alot of reviewers praise it but i dont love it. Its always searching for a gear and has to down shift 4 gears when i step on the gas i couldnt imagine it in a sportscar

[@07slowbalt]

@@Mike696956 i live off some twisty turny roads and the 10 speed is lost, constantly slamming gears. Coasting down a hill and then climbing it feels like a neutral drop at times. The only way the 10 speed operates good is if you're in the throttle all the time or run it in tow haul or sport. Kiss your gas mileage good bye.

[@Mike696956]

@@07slowbalt ya I've had about the same experience with mine sport mode is definitely better other than the rev hang sometimes it gets stuck in a gear after flooring it and over revs for like 30 seconds before it shifts again

[@07slowbalt]

@@Mike696956 it actually makes me feel much better knowing others have the same issues ive experienced. Everybody says an aftermarket tune does wonders to the tranny but i know these things are stupid expensive to repair so i dont want to chance it and blow my warranty good bye.

[@BiglyDownUnder]

I'm surprised u like the sound. It sounds like they made it quieter. I'll take your word for it tho. Great review 👌

[@rudyme7565]

what color is that foxbody in the back? what’s that blue called?

[@fortheloveofnoise]

Waffle Blue

[@davidmcmillan1477]

Now I'm curious why it is better. What did they change with the suspension? Can I just fix the issues with the older mustang for cheaper? It looks like that's what they did since the chassis looks the same.

[@kenwolf2431]

They made it better on a quality level its tighter and feels more solid. No rattles, no wind noise , no hopping and very smooth power.

[@melvinburwell8202]

This is the last of the last. That body shape is different for me. But cool. Fast. Beautiful. ❤❤

[@neptune_dh]

I am the only person on the planet that likes this thing

[@__sorry___]

You didn’t no-lift shift? Wondering how much more refined it is from the gt350 or the Mach 1

[@kenwolf2431]

It is on another level in refinment its just so much more smoother and quiet no wind noise at all.

[@lafedean]

Did you ever get to drive a manual Mach 1? How do you think it compares to it?

[@rik331]

Is it also available with the 10 speed auto?

[@calvinmauney5669]

Yeah and dyno 409 at the wheel 🗑🗑

[@CobbG37x]

Its the price for me 90k after mark ups is insane a used GT500 is less then this thing lets put that into perspective hell u might even be able to get a used c7 zr1 for less then this thing

[@2valve4six73]

"It puts the power down well" also weighs like a boat lol. Nonetheless pretty cool car i guess.