Can the West Be Saved? The 238th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

[@DavvoBars]

That open letter was brilliantly written. Compelling and in the spirit of truth. Keep up the good fight!

[@vivienneb6199]

Not at all!

[@arevelation882]

Very well written, Dr. Heying. Thank you for continuing to stand up for women, the truth, and what appears to be lacking most in our fraying society, emotional and intellectual maturity.

[@toddmank45]

She's a treasure 😊

[@vivienneb6199]

Can you tell me why you think Kamala is not qualified? She was a DA, a Senator, and now VP. What man is more qualified?

[@dianedildine]

Pre Title IX Boomer lawyer here couldn’t agree more.

[@E_Clampus_Vitus]

@@vivienneb6199Any man that works in the private sector and not government.

[@vivienneb6199]

@@E_Clampus_Vitus That's absurd. You must think nearly everyone in government is not qualified. It is funny that Heather claims Kamala is a DEI hire because she is black, but does not think Biden or Walz are DEI hires (because they are white). In reality,

[@mandywatson.]

Bret & Heather are my weekly dose of sanity. Really appreciate the brutal honesty here❤

[@freedomruss]

Rare as it is these days. So refreshing.

[@neomacchio4692]

Ditto! And even more comforting that they are trad liberals, academics, intellectuals, and at least one of them is or was voting for Trump. The potential cognitive dissonance there is palpable. But in their case, they’ve chosen rationale, reason etc.. I voted blue the first 20 yrs of my adult life. Voted Obama twice. Voted Clinton 2016. Voted Trump 2020. Voting Trump 2024.

[@freedomruss]

@@neomacchio4692 If you think you can vote yourself out of this mess well....good luck to ya.

[@neomacchio4692]

@@freedomruss What else is one supposed to do? Not vote? Or throw away a vote? Just because they’re gonna cheat again, doesn’t mean we should throw up our hands.

[@vivienneb6199]

You think we should be taking DNA from every immigrant?

[@icecreamjunkie6790]

Excellent essay Heather. Thank you for sharing it. For the record, I LIKE it when you read!

[@artphotognh]

I'm a retired lady born in 1962, and had the freedom to do whatever I wanted. I chose to have a professional career, and can attest that all the supposed "misogyny" that Leftists still scream about had disappeared by the 1990s. Of course, the racism that Leftists are obsessed with had totally disappeared by the time I was born, leaving nothing but reverse racism - which actually cost me a promotion to a job I had excelled at as "Acting" Director for over 6 months. Eventually the Black Department Head realized my naivete and told me that the job had to go to a Black person. So I resigned on Friday, and by Monday a Black man - who met NONE of the job qualifications and had no experience - was officially awarded the job. He got to add 3 new professional staff members to the small Dept (all Black), yet immediately contracted out all the work we had previously done to a private company. The taxpayer then paid for 7 well-paid (but non-productive) people plus the private business, instead of just 4 hard working professionals who cared about improving the affordable housing situation.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Your lack of general awareness and self-awareness is staggering. You *think* you did an excellent job. That would be funny, but it's not.

[@Heike--]

You're naive too. Stated goals vs. revealed goals.It's all about revenge on whitey and if unqualified people do that, so much the better.

[@Jupitar77]

Misandry is the norm now in the West. XX's are given so many advantages. Colorism/traits/gender are now what's important. It's atavistic and just r-tarded. Devolution @ it's finest. Cheers to you for your comment, I just wish more fe_males/minorities had your wisdom. I cannot stand this cult.ure/society....it's disgusting.

[@sandraterry7892]

Thank you, Heather. Perfect response to the insanity going on in the gender area.

[@robertmarshall2502]

I recently saw an OP Ed from the Guardian saying we should end women's prisons. Not prisons. Just women's prisons. It referenced an excellent collation of data on the routes that lead to female prisoners being incarcerated and outlined how many women's centres were basically non-existent. The writer went out of her way to claim "trans women" aren't an issue and arbitrarily applied the patterns to them while bemoaning the lack of women's spaces. The irony being, of course, that this is precisely because males have been allowed in. So she was proposing an end to women's prisons meaning all female prisoners would go free. And all males who identify as women would go free too. I can see absolutely no flaws in this plan..... A previous article was about how Drag Queens were coming to our rescue. Some of these women live on a completely different planet.

[@out_spocken]

Women are fast becoming their own worst enemy. I know very few 'sane' men that are far left. I know far too many centre left women that support far left. It's scary. Female's innate empathy being coopted and used against them

[@mahls93]

Wow! Just WOW! I cannot believe how well you expressed my observations, thoughts and feelings Heather. As a gen X er too - I’ve started to feel embarrassed at the behaviour of women and almost feeling ashamed at being a woman. Things have got so ludicrous. Well done Heather.

[@vivienneb6199]

That's the point. You are supposed to feel ashamed.

[@mrblaze187]

Thanks for making me feel like there are women out there like you.

[@vivienneb6199]

@@mrblaze187 You want women to be embarrassed and ashamed? WTF

[@mrblaze187]

@mahls93 yes, I want women to be ashamed of what feminism has done to society. Illegal immigration, trans children, vaccinations, ect.

[@10.6.12.]

Ms. Heying brillant essay. Considering your passion concerning this subject; it is introspect, prescient, and IMHO restrained. It is a model of the kind of intelegent discourse we need to defeat the absurdities of our time. Thank you.

[@lstrugar]

Truly some of my favorite moments are the articles that Heather chooses to share with us. Thank you for feeding my brain and always giving me words of food for thought that I think about long after I’ve listened to the episode. Thank you for feeding my soul Heather and Brett. 🙏 ❤

[@RadTheMaligator]

Bret! Save the UK 🇬🇧 we're in deep trouble 😢

[@ledaswan5990]

Bret? The guy has fallen so far down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theory that he can’t even himself. He’s ridiculous

[@TheShootist]

the whole of the West is

[@shitdemon487]

@@ledaswan5990 Says someone id bet has a higher booster count than IQ..

[@VSR10000]

​@@ledaswan5990 any evidence to back up your claim? Quotes, sources or at least your personal analysis?

[@vd.s6158]

@@ledaswan5990 wtf are you doing here there?

[@brandonhall4943]

That open letter was brilliant. Thank you.

[@anialiandr]

Totally 💯

[@Lyn-Leah]

There is nothing wrong with being a "trad wife". I hate that title. But, I am one. I love your podcast and watch every single episode, but I hate how you two bash people who want the more old fashioned, traditional life. I thought that letting women choose what they want for their life and their families, was a good thing? We can be educated, have careers, have families, but how we do it shouldn't be portrayed as a bad thing.

[@Pamela-pg8hj]

I agree with you 100%. I am a traditional wife and there is value in what I give to my household and society.

[@anialiandr]

I didn’t think they bashed tradies’ wives. I think they bashed modern feminists who don’t see it that having kids changes how you see the world EVEN IF you are a professional. And Megyn was an example here.

[@melaniew4354]

​@@anialiandr I came to make a similar comment as the OP. I think Heather's Natural Selections piece this week is very good, but where I clash with Heather is that she never, ever gives credit to women who choose to be homemakers. She is rather condescending about it, as if it is less than, not as good as, and I would like to see her just once, acknowledge that a traditional role of wife and mother can be just as satisfying and as raising children full time is just as worthwhile as a career such as hers. This isn't the first time Heather has given off this vibe, and as much as I admire her intellect, it's irritating.

[@edmunddengler7687]

​@@melaniew4354 This is fundamental to liberals. The so-called "tolerant" are really only tolerant of their approach.

[@GettingSchwiftyy]

Yeah it's better to point out that having the freedom to choose one, the other or both is what the goal should be. I don't think they were trashing the trad wife meme, just that it's important to remember that trad wife for all takea society back to square 1. Yes, it's the default mode for human societies but it also causes problems when it's the only option

[@donaldrobertson1808]

Most traditional female values come from female instinct which probably provides the most important reason why we are all alive today

[@johnwatts8346]

im not sure i agree that tradition and the primary reason we are here is due to female instinct?

[@donaldrobertson1808]

​@@johnwatts8346Maybe that's due to you lacking the necessary cognitive skills for doing so

[@johnwatts8346]

@@donaldrobertson1808 nope,

[@lilith3953]

Most "traditional female values" were forced on us by 10,000 years of patriarchal oppression.

[@grannyannie2948]

Yes, and if it wasn't for those instincts we wouldn't be here.

[@neomacchio4692]

You guys are amazing. I am trying to teach my daughter who is 11 years old, how to practice critical thinking. It would be amazing if the two of you did an episode or even wrote a book about how to teach this to our children.

[@posmoo9790]

It's no mystery about why equal opportunity declined. it's no puzzle about why there are many fewer haves and many more favenots than when Breat and Heather were kids. We sent the good paying jobs that average people could get overseas or just over the border and we spent 5 decades importing foreign labor to come in and out-compete the bottom half of society (on basis of who was willing to lower their wage demands the most) for jobs that absolutely can't be outsourced This is not rocket science. People like Bret and Heather have a hard time pinpointing the problem because they have been at least tacitly supporting this process for their entire lives at least until very recently. I also think part of it was they were privilegeds by their life in Portland. They didn't see the demographic changes. They didn't live next to door to the boomer bricklayer who built his own house and put 3 kids through college while knowing its practically impossible for me as an indigenous American kid in Texas to get a job doing any masonry whatsoever never mind for a decent wage.

[@edifying]

Love them both, but their economic naivety is at times alarming.

[@grannyannie2948]

100%. Everything you say has happened in my country as well. A factory worker used to be able to support a wife and several children comfortably.

[@posmoo9790]

@@TT-zl7ir the media does it too

[@icestationzebraassociates2460]

@@TT-zl7ir If you look back, you can see exactly where this started and the exact policy that made it so. It could be undone, but boy would it be painful. We don't _make_ anything here anymore. This isn't "free trade." This is direct outsourcing of most of the production jobs we had and it used to be illegal. For me, as a kid that grew up before it happened, I remember. I know who to blame and why, but I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions.

[@desertrose0601]

Well yeah. This is inherently the problem with elite college professor liberal types. I do think they’re waking up as best as they’re able to though. It’ll be difficult for them to truly understand the working class, but I think they’re at least trying.

[@LolaMarigold]

I adopted a kitten years back who had ringworm on her face. Not a worm but a fungus. The vet wanted to sell me very expensive medications. I refused. I used diluted ACV on her skin and it was gone in 3 days.

[@dcsc1]

ACV is one of many of gods gifts to mankind, I say! I drink it everyday and use it for SO many things.

[@LolaMarigold]

@@dcsc1 I can't use much of it with Gerd. It inflames my oesophagus.

[@joycegifford8826]

Dr Heying ❤❤❤❤❤ and thank you for that letter.

[@mihaelaulieru3063]

Thank you for writing this letter Prof Heather! You express my truth and I feel heard through you! Thank you for your courage and leadership by example. ❤

[@kenrobinson1188]

Its quite ironic that Western Liberalism has given women an un comparable amount of freedom….and it is this voting block(the largest) , that is slowly dismantling the West. We are all responsible for preserving Western Liberalism; not blaming women alone.

[@nedhill1242]

The single most radical and reliably Democratic voting block is single white college educated women particularly between 24 and 44. And you can probably add heterosexual to that. They love seeing themselves as allies! On Twitter and Instagram it is insane how radical these women are! They have been completely brainwashed by radical feminism and DEI and the LGBT alphabet soup and all of the other far left fanaticism which is all part of identity politics designed to separate & divide families & communities. They are always looking for some reason to be outraged. There’s always another dragon to slay. No amount of logic or reason resonates with them. It is the pinnacle of identity politics & indoctrination. Exactly as described by Yuri Bezmenov in his famous 1985 interview. And naturally, they are perfectly fine with peoples live being ruined and destroyed, and even violence upon people simply disagreeing with them. Even when that person doesn’t have a viewpoint that a rational person would consider controversial.

[@monicacouto1827]

Finally, someone realistic about Iman Khalif. I think this whole circus will affect him drastically, especially because he comes from a Muslim country. Unfortunately, I believe there is something darker behind his participation in the Olympic Games-they are using him. Best regards from Portugal."

[@ddan1781]

I kinda dislike heather reading. But everytime she reads one of her essays it‘s written so damn good I listen to all of it.

[@colegadohiphoptuga]

Very dark... The only sport where there was an issue regarding ambiguity was the one where a woman could have more damage inflicted on her. This event shocks and angers "haters" while "supporters" cheer and justify it. From Portugal

[@99guspuppet8]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ if there is someway for me to transfer some joy to HEATHER and BRET , I would

[@nickmagrick7702]

Imane is a girl, they got this wrong. Its a girl with genetic defects that gives her an obvious advantage, maybe shouldn't be allowed. Still a woman though.

[@willismcgee5216]

​@@99guspuppet8have you considered sending them your bug collection?

[@seahorse2]

I really appreciate your conversations, keep going. Strange that comments are gone.

[@samlee6749]

Brilliant essay by Heather.

[@robertmarshall2502]

The amount of gaslighting about Khelif and lies about the reasons people protest is insane. They just cannot say, people don't like Khelif because they want to see fair female sport. Because then it would tell everyone that they don't want either female or fair sport. Khelif is a hero to them precisely because he is male.

[@t.wm5593]

Wow! Dr. Heying Bravo, wonderful essay. I couldn’t agree more with every point you made. A baby boomer here. I’ve never liked labels even though I happen to be a very independent strong woman and proud to be XX.

[@afifahhamilton8843]

Heather's point about the gymnast sticking with her triumph rather than being moved along by the press, reminds me that here in England, when you have a baby the FIRST point/question aimed at the new mum is "what contraception are you going to use from now on?" as though this baby you've just produced is such an undesirable thing that we need to get it right so we don't do THAT again, in the coming months/years. LITERALLY that is the first thing said to a newly exhausted mum who's just given birth. It's abominable!! Do home births ladies, and kick out anyone who pushes ANY vaccine on you or suggests you should consider contraception. They are not your friend!

[@daisyviluck7932]

Although contraceptive methods have existed forever, we’ve forgotten that it was considered highly disreputable until a hundred years ago. And illegal in many places. Now it’s just assumed everybody *must* be on it.

[@icestationzebraassociates2460]

@@daisyviluck7932 It's also ironic for those of us who couldn't have kids for whatever reason. We were told to take the pill to "even out" our periods. XD

[@daisyviluck7932]

@@icestationzebraassociates2460 yes, it’s maddening that the Pill was just used to mask irregular periods, rather than research into the cause ans cure for these conditions. It’s appalling how little respect the female reproductive system gets in the medical and pharmaceutical industries

[@Ed-wu1xy]

I always appreciate the discussions the two of you have on your show. You both seem to go out of your way to bring your arguments in good faith, and I respect that a lot. God bless.

[@nadinetasmania]

Heather - that article is brilliant. What a response!

[@richardlefaive1944]

It's telling that many of those more recent to historical areas or those recently adopting "The Philosopgy of the West" ... and who got there after great trials under communist or fascist regimes .... are the ones who see the nonsense for what it is and are most scared + therefore moved to act. This fact should act as a real warning to those of us who have no such experience and are therefore complacent. People from the eastern block or Cambodia for e.g. see it right away. They have experienced these patterns of propaganda and authoritarian lunacy first. They know, and we should heed them.

[@patrickerwin7386]

Bravo on your article Heather. It was well written and well thought out.

[@anialiandr]

I enjoyed this episode. As for western female volleyball team I m all for them to wear what they agree to wear. I think our western culture is beautiful in how it teaches both appreciation of sexual beauty and restraint. Gals can feel safe in male company. Crazies are everywhere but sanity in the west is about restraint and appreciation

[@Jupitar77]

Western culture is now backwards/inverted/corrupt and misandrist. Satan is prince of the world.

[@michaelmoore4061]

For the naive headed to DC for the rally in the worst city in America, some advice. A lot of J-6ers wish they had known this. Only take a burner phone. Only take cash. Don’t park your car within 5 miles of venue (license plate scanners). Use a mask/face covering and sunglasses and hats. Realize that there will be many FED bois among you and don’t tell them who you are and don’t listen to their advice. You get the idea. If you want to do something worthwhile, protest/visit the J6 political prisoners without becoming one yourself.

[@peggybodiya8764]

Heather you can speak so clearly what so many of us can’t put into words. Thank you for being brave enough to speak the truth.

[@MarkChurch-yj6fu]

Heather! Oh my God! You gave me goosebumps! AMEN! Bravo Heather! I thank you with all my heart!

[@Meluvkatz]

I actually enjoy the ad reads. The doctors are funny.

[@NaturallyUnbridled]

Heather! I could hug you! Thank you for writing that eloquent piece and for reading it on the podcast. You nailed it! 🙌

[@KellyNora-p8q]

I didn't really care about the state of the world until i had a baby.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

You still don't. You care only in relation to you, through your progeny.

[@lilith3953]

Wow, you're really selfish.

[@grannyannie2948]

When you become a grandparent it gets much worse.

[@out_spocken]

shouldnt take that to care about the environment you and your friends and loved ones are living in. Imagine if no-one cared about the holocaust cept parents? You are a child of others...even if you don't have kids do you not care about the world your parents exist in?

[@grannyannie2948]

@@out_spocken I wonder if you have children? The sheer terror of having children who will live in a future you fear to imagine, is a little different than not littering the environment. If by the environment you meant climate change, the attempts to mitigate it are involving the destruction of the environment, in my country literally destroying endangered marsupials.

[@jennjewett4843]

Excellent job on that letter!! Thank you for speaking for so many!

[@TJ-kk5zf]

I just read Hunter Gatherers Guide... loved it! Great work guys! Write another book soon!

[@candyislander3563]

Found Bret on Diary of a CEO and came here! So glad I did! Now I'll search for the link to that wonderfully articulated open letter response! Thank you!

[@piper3032]

Thank you Heather, for your powerful opening piece! Well said!!!

[@stephenfox8337]

We're fucked...but hey, equity...am I right?

[@nancybaumgartner6774]

We’re all equally fucked . The people doing the fucking are going to be fine for the moment . But it’s only for the moment.

[@Jupitar77]

Yeah, F reality, growth, wisdom.......as long as my trait[s]/color/gender is represented, that's what's important. CLOWN WORLD USA

[@Gmoney0311]

Heather I really want to thank you for the article you read and wrote more importantly. I would venture to say my intelligence level is far below yours being a former ground pounder for the marine corps. But I know good writing when I read it and you perfectly and delicately wrapped up such a controversial - in my opinion it shouldn’t be - so perfectly that it moved me. Thank you so much. Always love this podcast. Keep writing those articles.

[@leebruno1722]

Dr. Heathers essay is on the ball. Why can’t we have this but louder? If the general population can’t follow then let them catch up. We cannot allow this tyranny of averages to obscure base reality

[@Trishpage312]

I like the oil pulling to clean my sinuses. I find it really helpful.

[@MaggyBurrowes]

The definition of 'working hard' and who is doing it needs to be very precise, because buying power isn't the only thing vast wealth buys you, power over the people do the hard 'physical' work is a really effective way to siphon more and more spending cash out of the system and into your ever deeper pockets. Then, like Gates, you can fantasise about manipulating the evolution of the human diet.

[@judybaldasari8181]

See you in DC

[@joe-fq1qp]

new drinking game. every time he says "the point is" take a shot

[@Stevanavich725]

You’d be flirting with alcohol poisoning.

[@janice68329]

Happiness is a matter of perception, not of circumstance. I think Martha Washington said that.

[@mysticalwonderland8479]

That was incredible Heather! I’m so grateful I took the time to hear the full letter, the snippet I saw on YT shorts pissed me off because I had no context. Excellent, bravo 👏🏽 fully agree!!

[@michaelandrews5499]

Heather, you're a brilliant writer! Love it when you read your work.

[@RuthToddColorado]

I have recently moved back to the USA from the Czech Republic to take care of my aging mother. I felt truly free there. Here, not so much.

[@Louis-wp3fq]

You can still have freedom here if you insist on it and ignore (or even rebuke) the strange neo-Puritans who try to control your behavior.

[@meridiable]

You NAILED it, Dr. Heying! Thank you, thank you, thank you 👏👊🙏

[@NinjaQuick]

It's always so interesting to see the difference in these two brothers. I am sure they have a closeness of brothers and great love and respect for each other - but Bret's intelligence, wisdom, temperament and patience truly set him apart. Eric is no slouch, but of the two I learn more and grow more with each time Bret speaks.

[@JennyJeanRazzle]

Great essay Heather!!!! 💖🇺🇸💖🇺🇸💖🇺🇸

[@t.wm5593]

FYI, Here’s how some of the components in apple cider vinegar can impact the body. “ 1. Acetic acid can help kill harmful bacteria. 2. Probiotics boost the healthy bacteria in our microbiome. 3. Polyphenols are an antioxidant that can reduce cellular damage by free radicals.” Published by the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center. April 15, 2024 I fill up a shot glass with ACV and add to an 8oz glass of water usually daily. I would much rather manage the possible negative effects of the acidity verses taking a pill any day of the week.

[@MannElite]

Probably would also be good to drink regular water AFTERWARDS as well. Diluting the acid is good for sure, but also rinsing after with pure water would definitely leave nothing for anyone to complain about lol Who knows you might leave behind some dilute acid that could tingle a little bit lol

[@dcsc1]

I drink it daily as well. A glass in the morning and a glass before bed, I do have to brush my teeth afterwards though because I can literally feel the acid slowly eating away my teeth haha!

[@Thorn707]

You could make marinades and dressings with it and still get the benefits. 😀

[@jj4cpw]

Wow. Perhaps I haven’t listened carefully to other essays written by Heather but her response at the beginning of the podcast was brilliant.

[@annfionamaskell7828]

Preach on Sister Amen Viva ... you say it Heather you express it for us ... thank you ... may this message find home

[@ImNotPotus]

@24:12 for all the non conforming anarchists who show up here.

[@jamieamir]

As a periodontist (gum specialist), I get asked all the time about oil pulling. I tell them “there aren’t any studies simply because no one is making money from coconut oil, but coconut oil has known beneficial effects and certainly won’t hurt anything. Eating a high quality whole food diet and minimizing processed foods is the most important part of having a healthy mouth.” Gum disease is no doubt caused mostly by poor diet, but I was never taught that fact in dental school or periodontal training, even though they admitted to an association with type 2 diabetes. I never ever hear it discussed at conferences. Just how to do procedures. There’s no money in prevention. It’s a sad fact. Saying that, periodontists are usually good about teaching people how to clean their teeth though. They just don’t talk about diet. In fact one my local predecessors used to tell his patients to go straight from their surgical appointment to a fast food restaurant for a thick chocolate milkshake after surgery. Probably for the cooling effect. My 15 years of clinical experience tells me chocolates/candy and ice cream are probably the most common triggers of periodontal disease. My patients eat blended soups, cottage cheese and scrambled eggs after surgery. Much better healing!

[@gardener3017]

I'm really starting to wonder if the endocrine disruptors from PFA's aren't having a bigger impact on humans than anyone realizes. I think this is like being in the eye of the tornado, & we're not going to be able to clearly see the damage until the storm passes.

[@daisyviluck7932]

I’ve long suspected this is a piece of the T R A N S puzzle.

[@quitefranklysamanthatheres1018]

Very brilliant and necessary letter! Thank you so much for this podcast and that response

[@cmbaugh6796]

Not going to lie… I miss the Mooink ad reads haha

[@elizabethkurens6247]

Thank you for writing an excellent letter. It need to be said and it was well said.

[@williamstravelvan]

Scientifically sex can only be defined by X and Y chromosomes. In several languages masculine gender can take on feminine gender. * Gender is not to do with sex as a linguistic term. Gender is to do with the way a word in the construction or context of a sentence. They want to change the linguistic term Gender into sudo science.

[@lilith3953]

Scientifically sex is defined by gametes: testes/sperm vs ova/eggs. (According to Dr Heather Heyer). Men with Caster Semeya's intersex condition (which Imani is believed to have) are born with ambiguous external genitals which look more like a vagina then a penis and internal testes which produce sperm (Caster has fathered a child on her wife) and normal levels of testosterone, causing them to go through male puberty with the full advantages that brings to sporting performance. They are men. (And they also have XY chromosomes).

[@pamcollins2178]

Bravo, Heather! 👏

[@bakreder1]

Did you get into the gummies prior to recording? Enjoyed the episode.

[@Rametetr]

Heather's opening soliloquy shows that women, too, can fulfill the role of "old man yelling at cloud"

[@SylvieBarthelemy]

Oooh that part about the NY time article and health practices is so perfectly analyzed.I hope you make it into a smaller clip that I may share it easily !!

[@fenyaslack7524]

At 1:03 :25 is exactly what I needed to hear! The tone and words. Thank you 🙏

[@francisspillane1666]

Your article articulates so much that I've tried to say about this issue; thanks! I hope it gets wide circulation.

[@i_drinkcokeacola6535]

Love this channel, Bret and Heather are amazing. On a side note, the old William Donahue videos are life changing.

[@laurasteffens7416]

Heather, your response to the Guardian OpEd was PERFECT! It felt so good to hear those thoughts so cogently, coherently articulated. Thank you so much!

[@susansmith1925]

Thank you for stating what seems obvious. Well said.

[@GenX1964]

42:00 This discussion is making me draw on "The Fourth Turning" history through Strauss - Howe Generational History Theory. It's correct GenX women and frankly GenX as a whole got exactly what we wanted. Maximum freedom. Blurred Gender rolls. Minimum identity based barriers. That's in keeping with the Nomad achetype coming of age in an unraveling Third Turning. I don't understand why things got so weird with Millenials. Did WE do that? We certainly engrained in them that everything they do is the best thing ever. It was unintentional but not unprecedented. And The Babyboom had a huge say in this madness of course as well. Never make the mistake of thinking history is linear. It's cyclical. Things can in fundamental ways return to clearly defined gender roles, in-groups and out-groups but also combined with the higher levels of wealth equality all commensurate with a late fourth turning into the first turning high. And it can happen with bewildering suddenness.

[@daisyviluck7932]

The internet is the thing that nobody saw coming. I’m a GenX and my teenage years were more similar to my Silent Generation parents than to my Millenial/GenZ children. And not to their benefit

[@Louis-wp3fq]

The older I get, the more I suspect all the negative trends we are seeing in the Western world are a result of evolved instinct being a poor fit for modern hyper novelty and that there is no way around an eventual collapse back into circumstances that are a better fit for the creatures we are. Maybe that's all human history will be when viewed on a long enough time table: a series of cycles.

[@grannyannie2948]

Historically, social mores are a pendulum, swinging between extremes. When this one finally swings back, it will swing a long way.

[@michaelweber5702]

My god Heather , that was a mighty fine reply letter , just excellent !

[@RobsWorldWV]

You know, I usually skip the adds other channels, but you guys make them fun.

[@GordieGii]

One reason for the one child male bias in China was because in China male children are legally responsible for their elderly parents' financial support. Female children are not. They are culturally bound to support their husband's parents. So if you are only allowed to have one child, you are likely to want one who will support you when get too old to work.

[@Jupitar77]

Females are not responsible for anything.......not even herself, as 'she' usually makes terrible choices.

[@amybob116]

Thank you both.

[@teresaprice5070]

This is quite possibly one of the best episodes I've ever had the privilege to view--that letter, Heather! Oy vey!!🔥--and, I laughingly admit that every episode seems to top my "favorites" list 😂Thank you BOTH for true rational observation, articulation, and discourse!! 💖

[@robertlowe9695]

As a fellow westerner, a Brit, I sympathise with your wish to save the West. But at the moment, the more pressing problem appears to be how to save the World from the West.

[@Jupitar77]

Well said!!! The West is a corrupt parasite of misandrists

[@elizabethmccarthy9885]

The progressive train past the station and kept of careening off the tracks. Did we ever know where the station was before we zoomed by it at high velocity?

[@desertrose0601]

I’d say the 90s was “the station”. As in… a time with relatively little racism and sexism. That was probably the pinnacle of our society. Unfortunately the progressives kept right on going, trying to continuously “save the oppressed”, who’re perfectly fine already.

[@terilamarco515]

Wow Heather! Great and powerful letter!

[@chrisdawson3859]

Amazing podcast as usual!!!❤️❤️❤️

[@joewyman5600]

Thank for that!

[@mjschoensee93]

You are so right Brett. The US President should have said WTF are you talking about?

[@sheaholloway9537]

Sadly, he says it regularly, but not for the correct reasons, particularly other countries telling us what to do.

[@botchvinik8668]

"Hey folks, welcome to The Darkhorse podcast number something or other..." Lol, 😅 i love how Bret relies so faithfully on Heather to always bail him out with the episode number of their show. You lovely 'folks' make a great team. Excellent show, as always. 🙂

[@g7wilson]

Wow! Spot on, super powerful commentary, Heather!

[@maryteu4747]

Heather. Your letter. Spot on .

[@ThomasSimmons-u5x]

May I recommend Rene Girard's work on the "scape goat mechanism" as a corrective to our obsession with happiness. PS: Heather's open letter to the Gaurdian was pure GOLD!

[@sagemoma]

@heather, please check out this book- The Two-Parent Privilege: How Americans Stopped Getting Married and Started Falling Behind When discussing figures like Megan Kelly as examples of women who successfully balance career and motherhood, you're echoing the argument Melissa Kearney makes in her book: that marriages with children have become a privilege that many can no longer afford. Use your platform to advocate for social change. Our society doesn't provide the means for young people to start families, leading them to choose not to have children. This choice is driven by economic factors, not by moral or cultural preferences.

[@grannyannie2948]

Well said. And this is true in all Anglosphere nations. Childlessness is one of the biggest problems we face.

[@sagemoma]

It’s challenging for those who have never struggled to truly grasp the reality of many in our country. The working class often work every holiday to earn time-and-a-half pay. Most of these workers are in unskilled jobs, relying on shift work that offers no steady schedules, real paid vacations, or opportunities for advancement. The conditions they face are a result of policies that prioritize profits over people. There is no healthy way for the marginalized working class to grow a family.

[@grannyannie2948]

@@sagemoma It's different in Australia. For example by law if you work full time, or part time, you receive four weeks paid holiday, if you do shift work that's five weeks. Actual unskilled workers are rare outside the student class. A working class person, especially men, earn $60, 000 to $120, 000 a year. Often more than university graduates. Female university graduates view marrying a tradesman as marrying up, for example.

[@grannyannie2948]

@@sagemoma The problem in my country is that immigration and foreign investors has made the cost of housing so high, and it's hard to start a family without stable housing.

[@dcsc1]

In Australia we had a $7000 baby bonus, we also get paid maternity leave, universities offer free childcare, women with children under the age 8 get around $400 a fortnight from the gov, most workplaces offer free childcare, etc. The list goes on. It is highly encouraged by our government to have children here. Sometimes I do feel they do it for slightly nefarious reasons though and not just to promote the human species. A previous Prime Minister once said, "people need to have at least 3 kids, 1 for the mum, 1 for the dad and 1 for the state". They want workers bees.

[@out_spocken]

Could be the best ad buy ever (TJ Robinsons) lol I think you've earned a sponsor for life rather than loosing one lol

[@samlee6749]

Bret, I wouldn't worry about fighting us (the UK) - we genuinely couldn't even take on Argentina any more (and the Argys know it)

[@winderofcoils]

I really appreciated the bit about "acting like men at their stupidest." In highschool my son dated a girl who shifted pronouns every other day. When she was a boy, she acted like the absolute worst sort of 80s/90s Hollywood stereotype of a male jock and she treated him very badly.

[@Louis-wp3fq]

Why in the world did he put up with this?

[@winderofcoils]

@@Louis-wp3fq he didn't for very long.

[@Louis-wp3fq]

@@winderofcoils Good for him!

[@tomashultgren4117]

The Duo is going to rescue the free world on Sept 29 in Washington DC! It is about time. These 2 guys have the solution to all the problems of the world. They are PhDs on on frogs and bats. What could be better than that? The Evolutiononary perspective! Yeah! Go ahead and kick ass!

[@phildupuis1084]

I have been following your work from your Evergreen days and while I respect your insights regarding biology and evolution I do find myself disagreeing with you a number of social/moral issues (abortion, role of religion, etc). What I cannot argue with, however, is just how fine a writer Heather is.

[@grannyannie2948]

I agree, especially religion.

[@MarkChurch-yj6fu]

One of the things I appreciate about both Bret and Heather is how they make space for religion and the idea of there being a God. Rehgarding abortion...The sanctity of life is a discussion that the whole of society has yet to really deal with. That discussion is coming though, and I think we will see quite a turning away from abortion. Or at least a pause and a reflection by people like Bret and Heather. God Bless.

[@grannyannie2948]

@@MarkChurch-yj6fu I don't know as biologists they can deny human life. I often watch Bret's face and I believe at heart he doesn't agree with Heather's views. It is something Americans need to come to terms with. There is no abortion in the Australian state I live in, it's perfectly legal, but no doctor is prepared to perform such a horrendous act. Godbless.

[@invishand3]

Heather article's conclusion is critical for smart dems to hear. Cheers

[@jdevil8877]

Feminism was always going to be a slippery slope. Unfortunately we've ended up here because of feminism and gay rights among other "progressive" values.

[@seahorse2]

I disagree. Feminism has one section that protects women. Women were under many constraits, and most of them had the responsibility of protecting the family, when men moved on. They needed the jobs. To support their family.

[@KellyNora-p8q]

Did men move on at the rate they do today? I don't think husband's did.

[@daisyviluck7932]

It was the sexual revolution that hurt our society, not women voting and owning property.

[@grannyannie2948]

I can't agree more.

[@grannyannie2948]

​@@seahorse2Men could not "move on" until feminists demanded no fault divorce. As a child in the 70s, feminists stole all the rights I cherish as a woman.

[@URInTheVillage]

Excellent essay by Heather. And brave; she will surely bring down upon herself the fury of the so called, "Left."

[@HenryThree]

The Byzantines were not an empire, because the Byzantines aren't a real thing. They were Eastern Romans, and the "Byzantine" label was simply created by salty Catholics trying to strip the Orthodox Christians of their proud Roman heritage. But yes, they did indeed have a beautiful, chaotic, constantly imperiled, ever-shrinking empire that lasted a full millennium after the fall of the Western Romans.

[@grannyannie2948]

I'm pretty sure Byzantine existed before Rome became Christian.

[@HenryThree]

@@grannyannie2948 The Greek colony of Byzantium, on top of which Constantinople was built, may have predated Rome entirely, but Westerners didn't start referring to the Eastern Romans as "Byzantines" until much later.

[@grannyannie2948]

@@HenryThree I heard a historian doing the KZbin talk round, and he was saying it wouldn't have fallen in the 15th century if the west had come to their aid. I think it was Victor Hansen Young, I'm not certain though.

[@CrusaderPawn]

Look up "Massacre of the Latins" and you will understand why that was the case. The "Eastern Romans" had nothing in common with the Romans from Rome at that point in history.

[@HenryThree]

@@CrusaderPawn It's almost as if societies can change quite a bit over the course of 1000+ years.... but nah you're right, for instance, everybody knows that modern-day Englishmen are indistinguishable from those living in the time of Alfred the Great.