THE 250 MURDERS OF HAROLD SHIPMAN

[@EleanorNeale]

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[@goddenki9524]

Okay!

[@DanDCool]

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[@sportlegend4444]

Are you Single you are cute 🥰 and gorgeous

[@cela9852]

Eleanor please look into the case of Chris Duntsh. He was a neurosurgeon who basically messed up all his patients on purpose including his own best friend.

[@stronghealer]

What's your link for the noise canceling ear buds? Thanks babe!!!🙏🙏🙏

[@tasheve3015]

the fact that he killed a CANCER PATIENT?? who was getting better??? that’s horrific

[@creaturenamedalistair]

Right? You'd think out of everyone that's who he'd want to keep alive :(

[@cflem15]

especially when he knows what it's like in a way, his mum died of cancer

[@scarlettmae621]

@@cflem15maybe that's why he did it. maybe he thought that if his mom didn't get better no one else got to either

[@skylerpoduska]

Agreed also love the pfp

[@tatyanamichelle2507]

@@scarlettmae621 that makes a lot of sense, especially since police thought the older women reminded him of his mom in some sort of way

[@original4636]

It’s so scary to know that people who are supposed to be taking care of you can abuse their professional power like Shipman

[@rokiro2643]

THIS IS WHAT I THOUGHT

[@rodeotrickster6037]

I'm just gonna say make sure you have a active advocate in case you ever go into coma or hospital. If you dont have someone to advocate for you then more likely to die in hospital

[@ebose5049]

It’s scary that ppl with a drug charge can be a doctor

[@davidmack1022]

That’s why I vow I will never ever put my parents in a home. I will move Heaven and Earth to make sure they can be cared for by family at home as much as is humanly possible.

[@rayajayce2034]

Obstetricians routinely ab*se their patients during childbirth and get away with it because "maternal injury is assumed." Just imagine the personality type to gravitate towards that level of power over another being..

[@marjorielopez653]

Just take a minute to think of the hours of research to do these. All the interviews, the articles. GREAT JOB ELEANOR

[@victoriabagwell8426]

100% agree 👍

[@tammyangel9530]

Yes thanks for all the hard work

[@wesley5nipes]

It is a lot of work, and I'm so glad she puts that work in as her channel and That Chapter are my two all-time favs. However, have you googled how much she makes in return for all that hard work? I think we'd both be putting in that kind of work to make that much money! She deserves it, too.

[@jaydanadal651]

@@wesley5nipes yes ! I love that chapter as well

[@lisaa6439]

Seriously! It cannot be easy

[@lenamariejackson]

i find it so interesting that Harold Shipman was so fond of his mother but sought out victims that reminded him of her. i would love to learn more about the psychology of that.

[@youtubekontoblabla1545]

It’s probably that they reminded him of her-> they have to have "the same life“ as her so that he can feel "the motherly love“ again when he pretends that his victims are his mom. Idk if she died I haven’t watched the first part yet but I think he was like: „hm I think they have to die too, that’s what makes me feel closer to them and my mom“

[@breannajordan6205]

Reminds me of Ted bundy who killed women that looked just like his first love

[@dieforalina702]

it could have angered him to see people who suffered the same as his mother getting better and getting medical care, something his mother never got the chance to do. he was probably envious that they were getting a better chance at living than his mother. i’m not sure though, i find it really interesting too.

[@lenamariejackson]

@@dieforalina702 that’s such an interesting perspective. i would’ve never thought of that! that’s definitely something to think about.

[@rachelosullivan9311]

Possibly anger at her for dying? Subconsciously he blamed her for dying

[@jennifer2218o]

Eleanor has actually gotten me through this term of school some nights when im just tired and alone i can just sit down and listen to her videos to relax and also listen to something interesting

[@cheesepuffs8764]

hope next term is better for you

[@erin3156]

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[@nicelyppppppp]

doing finals right now. absolutely relate to you on this level

[@obsessedstan]

Another good KZbinr is Hailey Elizabeth!! I love them both!!

[@crystallynn6782]

omg me doing this rn and reading ur comment i jus smoked a fat wood and i love to eat a snack and watch her videos lol

[@Beetlejuiceeeeee]

My ex boyfriends nan was a patient of Dr Shipmans! I remember going round to hers one afternoon and just casually dropping it into conversation. She thought he was great, and then was obviously horrified when she found out what he’d been doing. She was really quite a poorly lady, and was on oxygen for most of her adult life, so she would have been an ideal target for him… she was very lucky

[@lizzie221b_]

The thing that blows my mind about Shipman is how many people have personal anecdotes about him

[@DragonbornCanid]

i suppose its because he was a doctor, and doctors tend to have many patients, often with families and all. some in the comment section are clearly lying tho 😂

[@oskarrasmussen7137]

I suppose that's what happens when a serial killer murders 250+ victimes rather than 4. Lot more relatives.

[@TheKittyFaginGallery]

My parents doctor.

[@lipsnlashessxo8705]

It's so strange that he chose to murder his victims in this way. Considering morphine injections gave his mother such great relief, using them to kill his patients in this way makes me wonder if there was some sort of god complex along with the superiority. Like did he think he was 'saving' these women or providing permanent 'relief'? Or maybe I'm thinking too much and he was just sadistic and morphine was an easy and clean method for him 🤷🏻‍♀️ Another great video 👌x

[@amberbanuelos7053]

You’re probably right with both things. The god complex by determining when a person’s life ends and the “I’m helping them by ending their pain” belief to clear his conscience. We put pets down when they’re at the brink of death and in horrible pain, he may well have thought he was doing the same kindness for his victims. He wasn’t, he was a monster, but I wouldn’t doubt that crossed his mind at some point and made him feel better about himself.

[@NyxyPixie]

Yeah I agree... Especially with the tidbit about doing it to patients he thought he couldn't really "fix". Probably a sheild to keep living with himself too if he could keep telling himself that it was the best thing to do for them. Just enough awareness to rationalize it but not enough to, you know, not kill people. Messed up.

[@jazisajoke8688]

i’d be inclined to believe this if he only killed those that were gravely ill or terribly old but he was killing people in good health with one just 49! then there’s less of w feel that it was to provide relief because they didn’t need it

[@x_RoseBuds_x]

She mentioned in the first video he does have a god complex along with his superiority issues

[@ajjajsjsjj]

he thought he was a god cause he could stop those women’s pain forever but he also used morphine cause it was an easy method, not so dirty or sum

[@loriburnip]

I can't believe that so many families didn't demand autopsies when their family members died of unknown causes. If my loved one died suddenly & unexpectedly with no prior symptoms I would demand a thorough autopsy. Even if they were old. I would need to know how they died. I wouldn't be able to grieve & move on without answers.

[@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK]

You need to understand that Shipman was their trusted doctor and he told everyone, each time, that it was unnecessary. On top of this, many families don't want to go through the added trauma of an autopsy etc

[@loriburnip]

@@Z12457 They are where I live in Canada. There are both requested autopsies and required autopsies here. The next of kin absolutely has the right to demand an autopsy here. In the US you can also request one, even though the authorization process is different, it can still be done if someone died under unknown causes. I'm not sure about the process in other places like the UK though. However I would imagine their rules are similar to Canada, as we took the majority of our laws & rules from Britain, being we're a member of the commonwealth.

[@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK]

@@Z12457 On the contrary, the family are permitted to deny the performance of an autopsy.

[@MK-Hogan]

Same. It’s crazy how he convinced so many families to cremate the relatives he killed. I’d wonder why the hell the doctor was even mentioning it, much less pushing for it. They have nothing to do with postmortem arrangements and all that. 🤨

[@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK]

@@MK-Hogan It's amazing what people in a position of perceived authority can get away with!

[@BooglePoots]

That's crazy, when she shows the front page of a newspaper at 36:36 , it has the 15 confirmed victims with their names and the dates they were murdered, and it's insane that some of them were literally within a week or so of each other. When he killed Bianka Pomfret on December 10th, he had literally killed another woman, Laura Wagstaffe, just one day before. How the hell were all these back-to-back patient deaths never questioned sooner?

[@depgabby]

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[@AxxLAfriku]

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[@Luca-jt3ld]

@@AxxLAfriku 😱😱😰😰😰😨😨

[@BunniBeshara]

This case is so perplexing. How did he get away with this for so long?!

[@DeJect_music]

Getting vunerable people to change their wills, forging documents, he targeted mostly people who were near death, probably so that it would look less suspicious

[@loriburnip]

Doctors are seen as authority figures & very few people will actually question authority figures. There was an experiment done, called the Milgram experiment. Where a man in a lab coat would tell a test subject (subject A) to send a shock to another subject (subject B) in an ajoining room as they were quizzed. Whenever subject B got an answer wrong they would be shocked by subject A. These shocks increased in power every time. Subject A could hear subject B in the next Room scream when they were shocked, but what Subject A didn't know was that nobody was actually getting shocked. There was no subject B. The screams were recorded or were someone working with Milgram. In the end 65% of test subjects continued to shock the other "person" even up to a fatal level!! All because they were obedient to authority. It's what allows atrocities to take place. How many atrocities have been rationalized by those who carried them out saying "I was just following orders"?

[@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey]

You just listened to 90 minutes of someone explaining that very thing to you! 😏🤣

[@TheKittyFaginGallery]

People tend not to question a doctor.

[@morganjames5180]

The main problem is a lot of people especially old ladies love to feel like they are a close of their doctor ... ...makes them feel special that they have a true friend at that level ( doctor). Most people treat doctors and surgeons ..even lawyers etc , anyone high up the ladder ... ....with awe and inspiration...they see them with rose tinged glasses. I saw when I was a teacher then suddenly changed to working at private school .. ..and alot of people changed how they saw me, and wanted to be my close friend or even date me. I hated it ...being a teacher was hard work..,and I never let my job go to my head . I really think people treat doctors with too much adoration ...wanting to be a close friend .. ..a special friend.. Shipman took advantage of this, and played them like putty in their hands . Awful... I never trust doctor or paramedics and keep them at arms lengths . He got away with it because they were too trusting of him. Alot of people who want to become doctors only want the power and money ... ...they disguise this by saying , pretending to want to care for everyone . It's becoming so easy now to become doctors , lawyers or high paid people . University is a doddle now. Most parents think their graduation is an achievement... ...but all it takes is stamina and technique . Theres so much info and help online , Graduating and university is very easy . What is harder and should be treated as an achievement is ..to be kind and caring and loving . To want to help people without filimng or putting it on KZbin To want to do hours of voluntary work without anything in return . To want to live with less and not be greedy or self absorbed. The richest man is not the one who has the most but he who needs the least.

[@natsheridan.]

It’s said that he killed a young boy while he was working in a paediatric ward but they could never find enough evidence to charge him despite the boy being in good health and Shipman being the last person to see him. My mum thinks this investigation scared him into targeting older people as it was unlikely people would question it as much.

[@Neopologist]

"Everything was to be left for her doctor" I nearly blinded myself with the eyeroll.... the mans a doctor but he was dumb enough to make THAT mistake????

[@Zreyta]

It's just so sad. Like... just listening to the stories of the 15 confirmed victims was horrible. To think that there were so many more. So many lives taken for no reason. So many family members having their loved ones taken away by a man who was supposed to help them and watch over them. It's awful.

[@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK]

There were much, much more confirmed cases. He was only actually convicted of 15 due to the time and costs in court. The police stopped at 15 for practical reasons, otherwise it would have taken literally decades to convict him... The families of the victims that weren't included were split 50/50 about the decision.

[@gracebarnes7825]

Pppp Poppoii

[@l.sueszabo9618]

How about the case of the murderer Matthew Hoffman? The guy had a lead/tree obsession, (fetish?) and filled his house with leaves, slept on leaves and hid victims in hollow trees?

[@GenXfrom75]

Oh yep!! That is a crazy case! Sherrilyn Dale covered it a little while ago and it was excellent 👌

[@cheesepuffs8764]

this sounds crazy. i hope this case is covered

[@victoriabagwell8426]

I'm going to look this up, sounds interesting.

[@hannahmills6764]

Sounds very interesting

[@angiestalesfromwales1590]

this is possibly the wildest comment I've read congratulations

[@kimegan7415]

CASE SUGGESTION: snow town murders south Australia! 4 murderers , 12 victims. Extremely intense , interesting and infamous case.

[@whathe4633]

The infamous "bodies in barrels murders" aka Snowtown Murders is indeed a shocking and sickening case. Even the movie, Snowtown (also known as The Snowtown Murders) the 2011 Australian movie was disturbing but a very well done film. It's one of those films that you can only watch once and never again because of how disturbing and accurate it was.

[@vlogsbysalmab8790]

Where can you watch this? I’ve never heard of it

yess omg!!

[@khris2456]

Amazon prime has it but I will warn you that it’s not for the faint of heart :) it is also very sad

[@dangerxbadger2300]

As someone who has survived multiple massive doses of dicetylmorphine, I can tell you that it's an extremely painful experience. You feel as though someone has poured molten lava into your veins, you experience what feels like your entire skull splitting in half and the feeling of pins and needles that come from your foot falling asleep go throughout your whole body in waves. It's not a pleasant way to go at all.

[@jewelxiat]

Oh dear god---

[@toxxicx]

if that's true then why is it prescribed as a painkiller

[@iSmackRatchets]

So You’re Gonna Say It Twice From 2 Different Pages? 🤨

[@maribriggs9365]

Thanks. Good to know.

[@kyleamullican269]

@@toxxicx because overdoses are incredibly painful? There’s a reason you are only prescribed a certain amount. Otherwise, you’ve poisoned yourself (or in this case, others). If you OD on Tylenol or Advil, you’re also gonna be in a world of pain.

[@19nmiller1]

It's crazy how Shipman could've gotten away with it, at least for a while longer, if he wasn't so greedy with Kathleen's will

[@clara-im2py]

Honestly thats such a ridiculous thing to do 😭 like how obvious can you be

[@cranberryrosebud]

Also, with the awkwardness Eleanor gave the wording of the will, I was imagining some crayon scribble like "munny + house go to docter, not child, I've chainged my mind-" Imagine the police reading that and being like "seems legit", and just moving on.

[@ebonyunicorn7138]

​@@cranberryrosebud Thanks for the laugh. It was needed 😂

[@Briraessi]

From a forensic psychology standpoint, I also wonder if part of his motive was how inadequate he knew he really was at the job. If a patient was annoying or had complications beyond his scope of capabilities it seems that was an ensured way he'd kill them. He either didn't feel like treating them or knew he could do nothing for them so they served him no purpose. His major slip-up was when he deviated from his motive and killed someone for assets.

[@rosa1162]

It’s genuinely crazy to me that he could have gotten away with ALL of them if he didnt get greedy with the will

[@tomhutchinson761]

This case is crazy, never would you think someone who is paid to look after you would do anything of the sort! I’m so glad you covered this case I’ve heard of it before but never in this much detail so thank you for covering it!! I love the way your true personality comes out at sometimes gives me something to smile at during these horrific cases x

[@hannakasie2100]

Lmao ok really never? Next time you go to your drugstore just think how much they take for there own use. An doctors i mean this case is sad but it's happening right now as we speak somewhere.

[@tomhutchinson761]

@@hannakasie2100 no never, it’s not about taking the drugs it’s the murder. No one would go to there doctors and expect them to murder them?

[@Alt__Amy]

Sadly it’s quite a common thing that chronically ill people expect especially when going to the GP, not to out right plan their death but it’s a scarily regular occurrence for someone’s condition to get to an irreversible point that leads to death/die from something that a GP refused to properly investigate

[@tomhutchinson761]

@@Alt__Amy I wouldn’t necessarily say that this was the case here though, he issued something that these patients didn’t need and administered it in large doses knowing the consequences. He planned what he was going to do it wasn’t just because they were to ill and he didn’t know what to do with them or couldn’t be bothered to look into it further to administrate the correct medicines. He knew what he was doing and the reason he was doing it if that makes any sense?

[@alexh6767]

Off topic but crazy we have the same surname

[@maxbrooks5468]

Imagine trying to cover up your crime by halving the amount of evidence. And it's *still* a huge amount of evidence.

[@makailynthesizzler]

My cousins uncle is a killer. He’s only killed two people but his back story is so chilling. I’d love to give you all the info to cover him!

[@DeathDragon5861]

you should make ur own yt video on it

[@makailynthesizzler]

@@DeathDragon5861 I would but no one would watch it lol

[@loriburnip]

@@makailynthesizzler I would.

[@loriburnip]

@@makailynthesizzler if you decide to make one, come back here and post the link. I promise I'll watch & comment on it.

[@victoriabagwell8426]

@@makailynthesizzler I would short fast and in a hurry

[@star2705]

You forgot the words "criminal record", but hey. So did the police, apparently.

[@dududududududududududuhesa5341]

😶annioop-

[@susiepilled]

AHSJHAHAA

[@darleehart9782]

Do they need some ice for that burn? 🔥 🧊

[@cammyt9030]

I live in Manchester and had friends in Hyde, I've head a few of my friends parents say he was their doctor. It's so weird hearing all the details of something that happened so close to home

[@angelofdusk13]

Doctors: Hey, can you look into this guy, people are dying and we're afraid it's because he's not giving them the right care. We're worried more people could die, but a proper investigation could prevent that. Police: Yeah, but what if it turns out that he's fine and we look STUPID? Jesus Christ. The more true crime I listen to, the more I hate police departments.

[@kaijoy4940]

Indeed alot of crime cases are preventable but the police never look into things otherwise there'd alot less crimes

[@paddy_1875]

Hi Eleanor, I spotted that you haven’t actually done a video on Robert Black yet. I have an interesting personal anecdote on that case, as my grandad was actually arrested by police on this case as they thought he may have been the killer. Of course he wasn’t, but he was the double of Robert Black. My mother was also attacked during this time and was part of an undercover police sting operation to catch the killer. Let me know if you want more details of this, as it may be an interesting anecdote for a Robert black video if you intend on doing one

[@blakefieri3447]

this is dope info, i hope she reaches out to u so we can hear more!

[@TheAtomicBomb215]

Did she do it, ,🤔

[@charlottemaybury7608]

I’ve got a friends who’s mum used to work in a boarding school which Harold shipman’s niece happened to go to. And at the time that Harold was charged of murder his niece kept saying that it wasn’t him and went mentally insane. And my friends mum had to deal with her…

[@kyuniverse718]

Oh god poor girl 😔

[@crystalghostsaj5601]

"mentally insane". . . huh?

[@miathompson4440]

@@DragonbornCanid he has lots of brothers and sisters I doubt he didn’t have any nieces or nephews. What’s likely is that due to the severity of this case their identities aren’t on the internet. That or maybe the original commenter was lied to. You need to chill lmao

[@DragonbornCanid]

@@miathompson4440 nah, i actually went a looked it up. no nieces or nephews, and no chill, sorry xD

[@corablah9809]

@@DragonbornCanid not a furry thinking they know family history by a basic google search

[@IvanovaDowns]

Dr Shipman was my nephew's dad's family doctor, according to them everything was a complete shock and they did not suspect a thing. He apparently came across as a really nice and personable doctor, he'd go out of his way to help them and even did a few housecalls for them when one of the kids contracted the measles. They even picked up a perscription from the GP the morning he was arrested for his crimes.

[@heathernewton8481]

Never apologize for going on a “tangent” about the victims. They are victims are their stories deserve to be told. Thank you for saying their names.

[@emmarocheteau5788]

Wasn’t expecting part 2 so quickly! 😍 Love this for a Sunday eve

[@beefytrev9382]

5 or so years ago my family and I found out that my Gran used to actually work with Shipman! They were colleagues at the same hospital for a while and got on, she couldn't believe what had happened once it was uncovered. Crazy to think how close a loved one was to such an evil person...

[@Mzyx5443]

Cap

[@beefytrev9382]

@@Mzyx5443 it really isn't lol

[@Mzyx5443]

@@beefytrev9382 hm? Cap

[@beefytrev9382]

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[@steveywalker2735]

@@Mzyx5443 do yk their gran? No then shush

[@lisalavigne8146]

I'm wondering if u will cover the sad case of Arthur Labinjo- Hughes, who died at the hands of his step monster and garbage dad. The way you investigate and tell the story is simply amazing

[@kayb8211]

Emma kenny just uploaded one.

[@shneakrets]

I live with a couple of doctors and it's pretty scary the number of stories they have on other doctors and their lack of empathy.

[@ann-mariepaliukenas19]

Sadly not surprising.

[@mykarma4345]

It's not as simple as that. The amount of suffering doctors see on daily basis is too much. They tend to detach from reality as a coping mechanism to deal with the stress. Also they do need nerve of steel to make calculated logical decisions in the split of seconds when rest are all panicking and crying.

[@kayb8211]

@@mykarma4345 sounds like... a psychopath... lol

[@NyxyPixie]

For people who generally do have empathy there's a term for that I think? Compassion Fatigue or something like that? It's a type of burnout and is a big issue with care positions of all kinds. I know the pandemic has been exacerbating it for in healthcare :( Some doctors do just be assholes though. It's considered prestigious and you make decent money so not all of them are in it to help sadly.

[@karissa-i2z]

I work in an animal hospital and it is the same. In my experience, remaining compassionate while also running a private business keeping up with its high demand, and complex procedures all while dealing with the emotions of clients is emotionally taxing. You have to be somewhat desensitized in order to the things doctors do. I couldn’t be one, that’s for sure.

[@DebbieGrove]

I think he's responsible for the 600+ murders, he was a mediocre doctor who targeted patients who he could get away with because no one made it their business to follow-up on the people who he was supposed to care for.

[@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK]

He once mentioned to a Samaritans type support worker in prison that the actual number was 508. It was the closest he ever came to an admission of guilt.

[@calebdesouza7347]

Don’t know if you’ll see this but thank you for getting me through this past month. Doing my makeup before work listening to you and your passion for your work makes me feel ready for the day. Weird but yeah. Sending you love!

[@Lily-wy7yp]

he was the doctor of my great great grandma who died in the 1980s when she was in her late eighties . he signed her death certificate. my grandad saw her the night before and said she was talkative and didn’t seem like she was dying. but when he got caught it was too late to exhume her body so the court ruled it inconclusive. my grandad also knew Ivy Lomas and would see her at the pub often.

[@angelinak1625]

Do I already know Shipman’s story? Yes… am I still watching this video because I absolutely love the way Eleanor tells stories? Also yes!

[@wannabedrewafualo]

With his intelligence & drive to make his late mother proud of him, Harold Shipman could’ve done amazing things… of course, that’s not what he ended up doing.

[@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK]

He wasn't actually very clever, quite the opposite. He would often berate staff members or people he disagreed with by calling them stupid as he was very insecure. He only got into medical school through some special scholarship program because he didn't get the required grades.

[@wannabedrewafualo]

@@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK As much as I don’t like Shipman, he was intelligent (in my eyes). Sure, he was a horrible person, but lack in social skills & just being flat out mean doesn’t equal dumb. Hitler (being a more extreme example, of course) was very intelligent, very persuasive & manipulative, but still a disgusting human being nonetheless. You still need intelligence to get a scholarship in the end.

[@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK]

@@wannabedrewafualo Ok, true. He was far from an idiot. But when it comes to Doctors... He was like the bottom of the class. He knew this and he had a deep seated insecurity about his own intelligence, hence his superiority complex he consistently shows towards others. He made very obvious mistakes and errors when (barely) trying to cover his tracks, which could partially be explained by sheer hubris and arrogance, as he didn't expect to get caught anyway.

[@wannabedrewafualo]

@@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK Oh, he was most definitely delusional, no doubt about that. Dude thought he was all that & a bag of chips. I’d say he was a complete ham. 😂🤚🏻

[@emilymayx1133]

My mum actually once had a home visit from Harold shipman as an emergency doctor. She was 8 months pregnant with my oldest sister, he put it down to dehydration but when my mum said she was pregnant he was shocked…. like did you not see the huge bump. His surgery actually remained open long after he died, I think it was taken over by another doctor and only eventually closed in the early 2000s

[@SuperHeroFreddi]

Literally just finished part one and I was like, Damn need to wait a few days for part two... and then this popped up literally ONE MINUTE ago! Never been so early. Love your work as always! Love from Australia !

[@latashamitchell8350]

Me too

[@Alaninjas]

Same

[@gloverdragon6854]

Something you forgot to add. In when he killed himself his pension went to his wife. This was a big uproar in the uk. It spawned off so much disgust and debate about it. Primrose got to keep the pension.

[@charlottetredgett8295]

Shipman’s victim type remind me of something my mother said. Her dad died when he was middle aged and she said it always hard to interact with elderly people afterwards because he never reached that age and she resented that. Just a thought I had.

[@nayelidiaz7488]

Can we just appreciate all the time and effort put into theses videos.

[@멜라니_3]

@@Sora-yy2kj shut up

[@sydneyhanamore]

It’s amazing how good he was at getting away with being a serial killer but as soon as he tries fraud it gets him caught for everything

[@MLMJB]

I've seen a few docs on Shipman, but this one was way more in-depth. Very well put together.

[@rosiepolden3109]

The way Eleanor's videos is the last thing I watch before I sleep and the first thing I watch in the morning just shows how good she is at her job. Thankyou Eleanor for again delivering another banger

[@jackbrown4120]

Creep

[@Shiba_Draws]

Same!! But of course, remember to keep it healthy and having other things going on, especially for your mental health!

[@CashelOConnolly]

Peter Lewis was the youngest confirmed victim,he was 41. On New Year's Eve 1985, Shipman was called to Peter and Muriel's home because he was so ill. He, along with Maureen and her mother, Elsie Gee, were in the bedroom when Shipman made a chilling request. He asked Peter's wife to hold the injection needle into his patient's arm whilst he injected him Muriel said: "As I was holding the needle in his arm, the blood flowed back into the barrel of the needle from his arm and I had to go out of the room. I was very upset. "I went back into the room and Shipman (had) one hand around Pete's throat. He seemed to be squeezing Pete's windpipe. I asked him what he was doing, and (he) said he was stopping him from swallowing his tongue. "I wasn't present when Pete died. I went into the lounge. I couldn't stay till the end. I can remember, however, Shipman saying to Pete, 'Come on lad, give up. We've all had enough'. I gained the impression he was willing him to die." Unable to watch her husband in so much pain, Muriel left the room but her mother went back into the bedroom when she saw Shipman in a sinister pose. She said: "Dr Shipman was standing by the bed in front of Peter holding a pillow in both hands. He was putting the pillow over Peter's face. Shipman quickly put the pillow to one side. The mother-in-law watched as Shipman injected Peter Lewis again. She went downstairs to see if her daughter was okay. A minute or so later Shipman came into the room and said “Peter is dead” . Twenty percent of Shipman’s victims were men!

[@Madisita]

So, the family wanted him to kill him??

[@MarlasWorld]

@@Madisita yes I’m confused. Sounds like they let him do it 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@lynncrf]

That story is confusing. Why would they just watch him kill him?

[@CashelOConnolly]

@@lynncrf I presume at the time amidst the frightening experience of seeing your loved one in his death throws,the panic and confusion they’d not necessarily think that their respected doctor was trying to kill him. Only later did they realise. The problem with not understanding their reaction is because we see it as a cold clinical action. That poor family would’ve been going insane and doing everything to save him. Also in certain parts of society if you dare question your doctor and they tell you too shut up you shut up!

[@dallascordova9717]

Am I not understanding right or are you saying they literally saw and heard him killing this dude and just like watched it? Am I missing something?

[@kaistephens3429]

I've watched a lot of true crime documentaries and videos and I've been subscribed to Eleanor for just over a year now and I am still amazed by her personality when reporting on these criminal cases. She brings a little something extra when she explains all the events that took place. One can tell that she definitely enjoys doing this and it makes the viewers enjoy it even more. I am subscribed to other KZbinrs who do true crime videos as well but they don't have Eleanor's energy and I absolutely love it.

[@anishaahmed7587]

It's crazy that a rich woman had to die and through that he was caught when it could of been solved if the police put more effort in from the beginning.

[@zi6803]

I disagree. It was the fact that he inherited everything, which was the first time in his case. That would raise suspicion regardless if she was rich or not🙂

[@JL-vo8qv]

Eleanor is the reason that I enjoy watching true crime videos! Her analysis and breakdown is absolutely incredible. I can't wait for the next video 😄

[@chloegregory3376]

As a person who lives in Hyde I can say here that Harold shipmen left a strain on the village as well. He’s the main conversation topic sometimes

[@LeviJamesRE]

You clearly don't live in Hyde because it's a Market Town not a village 🙄 Go write your attention seeking crap comments elsewhere.

[@HEROS9GIRL]

Would you ever upload just the audio to a podcast platform? I often use your videos to relax but sometimes I just want the sound. Only ask because I would love it x

[@cheesepuffs8764]

i quite often listen to her videos while studying in the library, im lucky enough to have wifi there but i’d love for her to upload these onto spotify or soundcloud for example so i can download and listen when i don’t have wifi

[@natalieannay3479]

When you said I’ve never heard of a suspect being called to get arrested and than being like “ Yeah okay “ I LITERALLY CRIED LAUGHING

[@Hanavannin]

No matter how many times i watch documentaries and videos on this I'm just as horrified each time and there's always something else to learn about how evil he was. I still remember watching the news report on TV when he was arrested and being absolutely horrified as an 8 year old child that doctors were capable of something so disgusting

[@hannahhales633]

I truly adore Eleanor and she does an amazing job of giving information on all true crime cases. She truly opened me up to true crime and gained my interest. She is AMAZING. I highly recommend binge watching her whole channel

[@raynemorrison8802]

You are literally my knitting muse. I'm 22 (a single mom at that) and knitting is my favorite pass time and you help keep my focused and entertained.

[@Littleheartz-y1t]

Much love to you and your kido from a new mommy .

[@Amy-kv7el]

Been waiting for part 2 since u released the first part and it’s been worth the wait :)

[@btsarmylover6257]

So, big fan first of all. I always look forward to Eleanor’s vids. She’s my favorite. I have an unsolved case from my home town, Streator, IL So, back in March, 2003, a 7 year old boy named Dalton Mesarchik went missing from his front yard. They called in so many resources to come help find this little boy, I can remember helicopters going over our little town, all sorts of under cover officers, from all around us were here. Including news vans. Now, we are a small town, about 14,000 people, this just does not happen here very often at all. So, the next day they found him, dead, in the Vermillion River. He had been killed with a hammer. The mom was a definite person of interest at one point. Many leads followed, but nothing ever came of it. Days after he was found, people and family of Dalton’s put collection cans in local businesses to help with his funeral costs. It was rumored, not for sure on how true this is, but the mother supposedly went around to local bars drinking, and using the money from the collection cans to drink on. Some said that he may have been murdered do to some drug debt his mother had owed to some scary people. Again, no one could really say if that was true or not. To this day, no one has been arrested or caught for Dalton’s murder.

[@shannonknight2674]

Please no one say that this person right here is is faking because in 2003 this was all over the news its true it's on Google it's on KZbin its almost every where on the internet

[@h3ilee]

thats sick

[@namaste8160]

Murad Jacob "Jack" Kevorkian was an American pathologist and euthanasia proponent. He publicly championed a terminal patient's right to die by physician-assisted suicide, embodied in his quote, "Dying is not a crime". Kevorkian said that he assisted at least 130 patients to that end. Nicknames: Doctor Death, Jack The Dripper Small world I guess we both have "Dr. Death's". Love your channel!!!!! 🌎

[@marauhhmarie]

I don’t think there was anything wrong with what Kevorkian did. He only did it to terminally Ill patients who wanted to pass.

[@namaste8160]

@@marauhhmarie Yes, was just pointing out that "Dr. Death" was name Dr Kevorkian was given also.

[@alexbennet4195]

Good "Dr Death" vs Evil "Dr Death"

[@witchypeoniflorallungs3044]

That team of doctors with the stats, the solicitors and Cathleen’s daughter came in clutch, mad respect to them 💜

[@ellarswx]

it's crazy ro think that if he didn't forge the will he could've potentially gotten away with his crimes or at least taken many, many more innocent lives

[@AnonANGL]

300 000 page inquiry.. my god, literally just imagine all of those pages in actual physical paper. Like, that's probably more pages than plenty of author's LIFE WORKS. But also.. 250 people. 250 people's a little under half of my entire school. We may be a smaller school, but still... like oh my god, the sheer magnitude of victims and later investigation that had to be put into this case is just awful.. imagine, 250 victims, but then, all of their surviving families and friends.. then add to that, all the people that worked on this case, both in law enforcement (detectives, coroners, his judge, the attorneys, all of them) and then the journalists working on articles about this in the media.. all the people closely touched by the case in some shape or form could probably amount to a small town full of people.. it's actually insane to think about the effects this ONE MAN'S actions actually had, and how much chaos he made. It's hard to wrap your head around it when thinking about it like that really..

[@Maria-jl7ql]

I remember this, I was 8 at the time, usually, you aren't aware of this kind of stuff at that age but it was EVERYWHERE you couldn't help but know about it.... what a sick sick man he is

[@katiewilsey8555]

I am so proud of you Elenore! You have come so far. And this video really shows you have grown and are so personal with us. I'm glad your happy and healthy!

[@lchoppo1710]

This is truly one of the saddest cases. This is one of those cases of someone who grew up in a decent household who loved his mother. Only wanted to make her proud, and joined the medical field to help people, so fewer people would experience the pain he felt. He had the chance to make his mother proud of him, instead he took the darkest path imaginable. And I’m sure his mother would be horrified at the man he became

[@beana666]

I have to say i do admire your amazing memory. I expect you may have notes in front of you with names on and so on but the story you tell is always seamless and so well told. I was in hospital having broken my leg. After they operated on it I went back to the ward. That night a male nurse approached me and said he was going to inject me so i wouldn't be in pain and could get some sleep. The horrible thing was, HE LOOKED LIKE HAROLD SHIPMAN!! When he'd gone to get what he needed, I called over a female nurse and asked about the male nurse and said I was very nervous of him and I told her why. She said he was a lovely man and that he'd worked there for ages and none of his patients had died! I felt a bit of a fool but better that than get myself murdered!! By the way, I love your eyebrows.

[@katiescott3354]

I'm in Nova Scotia 🇨🇦 and we have a case that I would REALLY love my favourite crime youtubers to cover. It's from last year, 2020, the mass murder in Portipique and surrounding areas aka the largest shooting in Canada. 23 people died (give or take, since one victim was pregnant). An investigative reporter is publishing a book about it really soon (January 2022 I think) so I'm hoping that information will lead to videos about it! I know a few of the victims and the tactics used by the gunman were terrifying, the police really dropped the ball - resulting in many lives lost, and there's a whole lot of conspiracy surrounding the motives. P.S. feel free to reach out about the pronunciation of the local areas 😅 half the province can't pronounce them lol

[@laserblast6084]

You have this light about you and timeless beauty! Love watching your videos and the way you frame the narrative

[@jasminelouisefarrall]

Thank You Eleanor for covering this case, I remember this case very well and he chose to take the easy way out 🥺

[@zach_science3009]

You should make a video about "Mr,Cruel" he is a serial killer that was active during the 1980s-90s.He was in Melbourne, Australia and all over the State Of Victoria. he abducted 3 girls and murdered one of them. It is one of the worst cases I have seen.

[@evabell8741]

Yes!!! This case interests me so much I really want her to make a video on it

[@fbiagent3998]

Ive heard of that and I never want to listen to that case ever again it was disgusting and disturbing

[@Lucy-hm5if]

He was my GP until this happened, was even in my house when I born as I was a home birth. Have a photo of him holding me 😳

[@GenXfrom75]

Whaaaaat?! 😮😳

[@cammyt9030]

😳😳😳😳

[@BloodOfMadara]

😬OMG!!!

[@ishallcallhimsquishy2420]

how does it feel knowing you were once held by a serial killer? dont question me, i'm curious

[@fae5283]

So this is my first Eleanor Neale case I've ever watched and I'm completely blown away. Not only are you so thorough with your research and speaking about the case, but the way your voice softens when you give a warning about the content covered in the video. I can tell you truly care about your vulnerable viewers. I will most definitely subscribe to your channel and I look forward to binge watching your content. 💜

[@MissCEHayes]

There was a VERY RECENT similar situation like this here in Ontario, Canada of a retirement home nurse who "Harold Shipman'd" many patients with insulin injections.

[@stephferguson111]

Omg where was this?

[@MissCEHayes]

@@stephferguson111 Woodstock, ON Elizabeth Wettlaufer

[@cheyennesmith2324]

Omg this is exactly what I needed after the horrible day I’ve had 🥰

[@GenXfrom75]

I hope things look up for you soon! ✨💕

[@daisyevans9286]

Awh I hope ur day gets better ✨

[@nerfworthy112]

Hi Eleanor! Lovely video as always. While binging your videos, I often think about my late mom's ex boyfriend John (I do not know his last name) from before she met my dad around 1988 or so in the Silicon Valley area of California. She didn't tell me much, but I know he physically and emotionally abused her during their relationship. She managed to get out thankfully after years of this. Years later after I was born, and this was probably about 1998 or so when she told me she saw in the news that her ex boyfriend had remarried with kids, but his wife had left him. He was found to have committed a murder-suicide of his children (I believe it was two little girls) and himself while leaving his ex-wife alive. My mom whole heartedly believed he did it to hurt his ex-wife. That could have so easily been her if she had stayed with him. It has chilled me to the core to this day but I can't really find any info on it now. My mom passed away from cancer in 2015 so I can't exactly ask her now. I'd love it if you somehow were able to dig up details on this case and cover it. I know it's a long shot, but it would mean so much to me. Much love from USA.

[@breemidge8660]

I’ve just found your channel, but omg I’m hooked! You seem like such a beautiful & kind hearted soul!

[@twindancers2843]

Holy mackerel! What a case! Ive just gotten back into watching these videos and Ive forgotten how interesting they are. What really sparks to me in this case is that no matter how well you know someone whether they're famous or some sort of "celebrity" there is always something going on that no one knows about. Massive props to the doctors from the surgery for actually bringing it to the police in the first place. Its just a shame that it could've been investigated earlier. Great work Eleanor

[@eliznatruter6981]

I can't watch enough of Eleanor's videos. Please do a video on a South African case ❤️

[@imxngie]

Another great video, currently hanging out with family but DEFINITELY watching this after I'm doneee! Thank you for another video 💗💗

[@squidwardstan9103]

It’s always something with the UK Police and their “investigations”🤦🏾‍♂️

[@rebekka-jadeosullivan97]

Every time Eleanor says about Category A prisons being for serial killers I’m reminded that Ian Brady and Fred West were in a category B prison in Leicestershire

[@jinxx153]

im pretty sure theyre both dead

[@RhJones]

Lucy Letby got me thinking of Shipman. It’s terrifying how vulnerable we are to medical professionals

[@ayo.660]

The way such adored and kind people turn out to be unstable and cold hearted. . . beasts

[@katielaborde3976]

he looks like such a sweet guy. like a trustworthy guy. and that’s terrifying.

[@lauraomairi]

oh great, now I'll have to tell my grandma to put "do a toxicology report" in her will

[@rayray80234]

A group of doctors meeting at a pub to compare mortality data is the most British thing ever

[@erinmagill1702]

Geez, this reduced make up look is strikingly gorgeous. It inspires me as a ginger to rethink what beauty looks like for myself.

[@bs4e]

I absolutely agree. I always have to remark out loud how good she looks because she looks that good

[@cassoake9378]

It not super big or anything, but my great uncle is a murderer. His name is Philip Jablonski! He has a book written abt him and is still alive today. He makes art and sells it and it actually goes for a lot of money! My grandma used to tell me stories abt him, I’ve always wanted him to be covered, even if he’s not a bigger killer than others

[@1mol831]

you should suggest his story.

[@gleek8687]

I looked him up- he isn’t alive though. Serial killer Phillip Carl Jablonski died in 2019

[@GenXfrom75]

Woot woot! Part two as I finish cooking supper for my family! Impeccable timing, Eleanor! ✨💯✨

[@topMonger]

This new grey's anatomy season is looking WILD 💀

[@hawaakhan8219]

They should defo do something similar because the show is dead now anyways

[@hannahmills6764]

They really need to stop putting bed sheets in prison cells! Recently almost of all the true crime content I have watched has ended in the suspect hanging themselves with the sheet. So frustrating when criminals take the ‘easy’ way out instead of serving their time.

[@Potato-lp5ij]

I follow other true crime channels , I’ve been forcing my mother to watch it with me and Eleanor is her favorite “she doesn’t beat around the bush and get straight to the facts don’t blabbering “

[@hsmiles99]

Woohoo!!!!! Seeing a video from Eleanor is like getting a Christmas gift early.. thank you lovely 😊

[@TheKittyFaginGallery]

My route to work passed Shipman’s surgery at the time of the trial. Late for work every day. It was like something from a Hollywood film; helicopters, international news crews, UK news crews, armature film makers etc. it was one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen.

[@opheliak5548]

Eleanor's videos are a blessing to me and since at the moment I'm going through an extremely difficult and stressful depressive situation her videos just help me to keep my mind off of all the negative things I constantly feel and think about. Even if you don't ever see this comment Eleanor, I just want to say thank you so much for that n I hope you have a happy holiday ❤💚❤💚

[@ColeRobinson99]

Congrats on 2 million ☺️❤️❤️ just literally got so happy for you

[@I_LoveTiramisu]

Shipman was my dad’s ex girlfriend’s doctor, and I live very close to Hyde so this was a super cool case to cover coz all my family know about it :)

[@Ysantana98]

I’ve been waiting for part 2!! Love your work ❤️